It isn't really an idol anime, so I'm confused...why do the Japanese love Symphogeah? Is it Hibiki's earnest nature? Is it Tsubasa's caring yet tsundere feeling? Is it RedGuy being a magical super powered man for no reason?
>>146404842
It's Hibiki's ass.
>>146404842
Because it's fun.
They tried to recreate the atmosphere in the follow-up seasons, but they (partially) failed because they confused trainwrecks for fun.
>>146404941
S1 was a trainwreck from what I can tell.
>>146404842
Better music than generic idol stuff. After all these years the songs are still not boring.
Also good action and hype moments. The story is dumb but the show is self-aware of its silliness so who cares.
>>146404941
I dunno I've seen plenty of shows be "fun" and not sell 10k+ BDs
>>146404896
Seconding this. Also, it's determination to fist and Zenbu's zenbus and dess dess dess.
She really is so earnest. And she has the determination to fist.
Ask /m/
>>146405442
There is no mecha in Symphogeeayaha
>>146405477
>what is mecha musume
>>146404896
The butts are noice.
>>146405517
Not mecha.
>>146405125
You can't tell shit then.
>>146405622
>>146405477
Yup, no mecha here.
>>146405225
Plenty of shows don't have Nana willing those BDs and CDs out of the stores..
It's just mindless fun. I don't even know why I enjoyed it anymore. It's not exactly good by any stretch of the imagination.
>>146405717
Tell me why Genjuurou is superhuman then
>>146405517
I wish they had expanded on that.
Also, was it ever explained why Hibiki fucked off to the hospital for multiple episodes during S3?
>>146405922
It was spelled out in the show. Pay more attention.
>>146405933
It's just a convenient way to get her out of the picture because her asspull powerup is too strong for the series.
I hate this era where mindless fun dominates
>>146405994
Read a book then, faggot.
>>146405994
He hates it!
>>146405922
I don't think you know what trainwreck means. Season one never loses sight of what it's doing and never strays off course with any plot line or character. No matter how ridiculous everything about it is, it's still pretty solid as far the story and the character development goes. The worst you can say about it is that it's got some pacing problems.
>>146405477
Pic related.
>>146405971
In S1?
>>146406098
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxRBFMlL3rA
>>146406083
I know what trainwreck is to me: something that is ridiculous.
>>146404842
>japs only like idolshit meme
Let me guess. You're an M3 / Argevollenfag still butthurt no one liked your shit awful show.
>>146406181
You can define it however you want, but if you don't use it in the sense everybody else does it's hard to make conversation.
>>146406144
Uh, that isn't an explanation.
Zenbu best girl fuck what Japan thinks
>>146406228
It's a perfect explanation.
Is Tsubasa a sword or a wing?
>>146406310
So like 70% of the males in the Symphogeeah world are superhuman?
>>146406224
I figured that was the definition given that everything /a/ calls a trainwreck has been ridiculous: Aldnoah, Cross Ange, Valvrave, etc.
How do those "stray off course" with their plotlines or characters? How does one even define what on course is when the writers/director have specific ideas in mind with what they want to do with the characters which may not agree with what you think should happen with them? I can see people saying "Sazbaum should've been the villain of Aldnoah, not Slayne" but it's clear the show's creators thought otherwise. For them they were still on course, even if for me they went off the rails when they killed Sazbaum.
Nana wills it
>>146406367
Yes
>>146405561
> /m/ had the live 2016 rips 2 days ago
> /a/ didn't even have a thread
Perhaps it's time to switch boards.
>>146406367
Name says Wing
>>146406377
No, they spend too much time doing useless stuff.
>>146406255
Pretty sure Japan agrees, though.
>>146406454
I've always interpreted "trainwreck" as meaning "It's a disaster but I can't look away".
>>146406788
It horrifies me that they actually give no good explanation for his superhuman strength. This alone ruins the show.
>>146406852
That's how I felt watching Symphogeah, besides the "I can't look away," since I definitely could. Only finished Season 1.
>>146406861
I don't see how it would ruin the show.
>>146406454
>the writers/director have specific ideas in mind with what they want to do
Exactly.
Aldnoah;Zero S1 was no trainwreck. But in S2 you had character motivations that were in plain contrast with what they wanted to do.
In Valvrave (as is typical for Sunrise), things happened seemingly at random. It was just plot twist after plot twist.
And that's a trainwreck.
>>146406955
>things happened seemingly at random.
Maybe you just did not understand the writers'/director's grand vision
>>146406955
>In Valvrave (as is typical for Sunrise), things happened seemingly at random.
Sounds like real life. Maybe Valvrave is a real life simulator.
>>146406861
You ruin the show. I'm not even trying to be cheeky here.
>>146407002
I'll take that as an insult, but sure, that's a possibility. Maybe Valvrave was just too deep for me.
>>146407062
Stories require a narrative.
>>146406367
A wing made of sword.
>>146406932
>>146407084
I spent 70% of it wondering why this guy was superhuman and 30% of it able to concentrate on the show. Immersion breaking. If you have something in a fantasy show that is out of the ordinary you explain it. Sure they found weirdo relics that allow the Symphogear girls to do their thing. Noise is some weird phenomena they don't understand unique to their universe. But how do they explain Genjuurou? Is he a magical phenomena? A force of nature? Was he raised by wolves? What?
>>146404842
the music is good, im listening to it now
>>146407207
I'm sure there are some schools of literary theory that probably disagree with that.
Reminder that Hibiki is shit and ruined GX.
Maria a shit.
A SHIT.
>>146407207
>>146407375
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literary_nonsense
Symphogear actually fits this to some extent and so does Valvrave--even moreso.
>>146407376
She did indeed, but she's still best girl.
>>146407375
story (ˈstɔːrɪ)
n, pl -ries
1. (Literary & Literary Critical Terms) a narration of a chain of events told or written in prose or verse
>>146407515
Dictionaries are just explications of the common man's definitions of such things. See here for theorists' beliefs which are on the cutting edge of literary theory >>146407445
>>146406814
They have shit taste when it comes to everything else, I'm just surprised they actually decided to have good taste when it comes to Symphogeah
>>146407445
>>146407601
That article doesn't refer to a kind of story.
You could argue that Valvrave is not a story either, but that would be a stretch.
>>146407711
I think it refers to a genre of storytelling wherein a specific example would still be called a "story." For example, deeper in the article
>The 2006 fan fiction story My Immortal by XXXbloodyrists666XXX" (Tara Gilesbie) is often considered the apex of nonsensical fan fiction literature. The story which is loosely based on Harry Potter has become notorious for its atypical spelling, and the constant author's notes that frame the text. The story has since become remained popular
People may call examples of that type of literature "stories" for lack of any other term to be able to call them though.
>>146407243
I was going to give you a longer reply, but honestly all I have to say is that you're too autistic for this.
>>146407243
Ogawa is a ninja that can immoblize people by shooting their shadows and runs on water.
>>146407842
I'm pretty sure the bit about My Immortal was a joke. There is actual technique to proper literary nonsense. My Immortal is just a badly written fanfic. The argument that its spelling is atypical is just a humorous reference to the many typos the story has.
>>146407865
It isn't autism to want a story to make sense.
>>146407890
That is an explanation though, one that makes the world of Symphogear even more ridiculous but at least it is an explanation. The relic stuff can be seen as ridiculous in itself. But "he comes from a clan of ninjas and in sympogear world ninjutsu is real" is a better explanation than "this guy watches movies, sleeps and eats so he's superhuman.
Symphogear is unironically my favorite series.
I eagerly await for seasons 4 and 5.
>>146408006
>wikipedia now contains jokes in its articles that no one cares to revert
HELP
>>146408060
>It isn't autism to want a story to make sense.
Why did Gandalf refuse to use lightning against the hordes of Mordor? He proved that he could conjure the stuff in the Hobbit (both movie and book).
Why did Saruman, as he was fighting trees, refuse to set them on fire with fireballs, one of which he conjured up just a short while after losing the battle? (movie)
>>146408060
>this guy watches movies, sleeps and eats so he's superhuman
Have you ever tried it yourself?
>>146408060
It's joke. A fucking joke. Being unable to understand jokes is indeed a sign of autism.
>>146408148
Because plot hole / bad writing
Because plot hole / bad writing
But you see, Symphogear FLAUNTS its plot holes. I can't get over that. Most works at least have the author in a state where he does not know they're there and thus they are not always something.
>>146408232
Actually that description fits me to a T.
>>146408148
Go away Frodo
>>146408092
>Symphogear is unironically my favorite series.
Mine too
>>146408296
He made a joke when he should be explaining the source of his actual superpowers.
>>146408324
>Actually that description fits me to a T.
I hope you didn't expend all your built-up superpower by masturbating.
>>146408387
It's a fucking cartoon.
He didn't make a joke. His strength is the joke.
>>146408449
It's a fucking cartoon with a nudist lesbian woman. I expect it to be a bit more serious than Loony Toons since it's obviously not targeted at kids.
>>146408387
Holy shit you're dumb. The joke was that his powers are ridiculous, the character himself wasn't joking, the writers were.
>>146408504
>adults can't take jokes
Children are superior.
>>146408514
>Make a plot hole character
>Joke about how stupid your work is that it has an intentional plot hole in it
>>146408562
But that's the entire thing. His strength is inconsequential.
The only reason it exists at all is because it makes him look cool and because it's funny.
It's like a princess character with a superpower of never getting dirty. If you ask her how that's possible she tells you that only only drinks barley tea and is polite to strangers.
>>146408634
He saves Hibiki in one ep with it though. It is not inconsequential to the plot.
>>146404842
>why do the Japanese love Symphogeah
Nana Mizuki and music CDs.
>>146404842
It's a dumb/simple show but the staff (all of them, Agematsu, the seiyuu, the animators, etc) love the show and characters and it really shows on the final product.
It's a bit similar to the early years of Nanoha in that regard.
>>146408874
>projecting this much
You are the newfag
>>146408874
Don't use emoticons on /a/.
>>146408387
>>146408562
Genjuro's answer is almost certainly a lie, but you've watched far too much shounen if you think that the middle of a fight with someone who wants to kill you is the best time to start revealing the source of your powers.
Not every minor character's background and abilities need explicitly spelling out, especially in the first season. It gives future writers more freedom to work with, if they ever decide to flesh out Genjuro's backstory. They could even decide to never reveal it and have the cast ignore the elephant in the room as a running joke in the series, perhaps with the occasional lampshade.
Symphogear is not meant to be taken seriously
>>146409076
Ironic shitposting is just shitposting.
>>146409076
kill yourself
>>146409080
>but you've watched far too much shounen if you think that the middle of a fight with someone who wants to kill you is the best time to start revealing the source of your powers.
Yes it would be awkward but it would be better than no explanation. Hibiki should ask him after she sees it once and he should explain it.
And I would not count Genjuro as a minor character given how much screen time he gets.
Also I wish anime that was not meant to be taken seriously would have a huge label on them saying as such so I could avoid them easily. Comedy doesn't work because some shows which one can take seriously begin with comedy elements which are gradually phased out.
>>146409106
Do you think I care?
>>146409239
>girls power up by singing which makes them switch into skimpy outfits with oversized armor pieces
>serious anime
You have only yourself to blame.
>>146409080
>Symphogear is not meant to be taken seriously
>tfw Kanade died for nothing because she died in an anime that was made as a joke
>>146408060
The explanation for Miku/Ogawa/Genjuro's supernatural feat is that in the Symphogear world your hobbies can give you special powers.
Just a twist on the typical "will-power gives you strength" cliche and a tool to make civilians characters somewhat more relevant.
But really, if you are taking Symphogear at face value you are dummy. Symphogear takes inspirations from a lot showa-era productions and the tokusatsu genre, it's that sort of ultra-romantic show.
>>146406089
>reaching this hard
What do the two halves of the image have in common? Well, the girls are using weapons, and the mecha are using weapons.
>totally the same thing guise!
>>146409418
Just because the anime is a comedy doesn't mean serious stuff can't happen.
AOI
IS
A
MIRACLE
HIBIKI
A
BEST
>>146409405
I've taken worse seriously with no problems, like Gurren Lagann
Frankly almost any action show has stuff as ridiculous as that when you spell it out in that manner but can still be taken seriously.
>>146409553
>>146409471
But he said Symphogear is not meant to be taken seriously, not that it's a comedy. That means everything, like the plot, character deaths, etc. are meaningless because the plot is not meant to make any sense. I-Is the feeling I felt when Kanade died a lie?
>>146409583
>like Gurren Lagann
You mean you didn't make an angry post on /a/ about how it's impossible to use galaxies as shuriken on so many different levels that it would be silly to count them?
>>146409583
>>146409471
Did everyone forget about twintails
It's the same type of show that is just as good for the exact same reasons
>>146409442
Do you seriously not know what mecha musume is
Strike witches is mecha musume
Twintails is mecha musume
Symphogear is the same kind of show as both + Macross 7
>>146409583
To me is not really a matter of taking the show seriously or not, but knowing when the show wants to be taken seriously and when the show is just going by the rule of cool or doing a joke. There's no reason serious and ridiculous can't coexist in the same anime.
>>146409643
I want Aoi to fist me.
Lesbians.
>>146409553
>AI AM HAB
What did he mean by this?
>>146409675
No, this is what we call a rollercoaster. It's supposed to send you on emotional ride. Remember Samumenco?
>>146409700
>but knowing when the show wants to be taken seriously and when the show is just going by the rule of cool or doing a joke. There's no reason serious and ridiculous can't coexist in the same anime.
FUCKING
THIS
>>146409733
t. Lesbo
>>146409755
He was calling for help, but got caught by his kidnapper before he could finish the message.
>>146409694
>Macross 7 is mecha musume
Now I -know- you're trolling.
>>146409762
I'm a man (male).
>>146409700
My serious to non-serious boundaries draw a line when the action happens. Like you can have Ed turn into a super deformed bean in FMA in some dumb comedy scene, but if some random soldier was able to beat a homunculus to a pulp without alchemy I'd want an explanation.
>>146409762
I'm a burly guy with a beard.
>>146409820
Reread his post.
>>146409733
I'd rather have Nana will her fist into my ass.
>>146409829
Well, Symphogear doesn't respect your lines, you can move on to another show that does if you want to.
>>146409820
I want Nana to punch me.
>>146409870
More armpits please
>>146404842
>>146409870
>muscles
Gross. I don't like Nana anymore.
What was his name again?
>>146405795
dem tits tho
>>146404941
I mean, I want to say you're right but each season keeps selling better than the previous one.
>>146410123
According to the filename, his name is [HorribleSubs] Senki Zesshou Symphogear GX - 10 [720].mkv_snapshot_08.01_[2015.09.04_18.23.42]
Must be some kind of special variant if he has the GX-suffix. Seems also like he's the 10th model of his series.
Aoi is for ____
>>146410365
Fisting
>>146410365
Stay in your containment thread, seiyuu cancer.
>>146410123
Jail scaglietti
>>146410123
DOKTOR VERR
>>146410365
Headpats and marriage.
>>146410443
>symphogear
>Not the Aoi Yuuki Show
>>146410549
Correct, it's not.
>>146404842
What is there to not like about it? It has cute girls and action.
>>146410123
James
>>146410443
There has always been seiyuuposting in Symphogear threads, bro. Both Tsubasa and Hibiki are heavily based on their voice actresses.
Sorry you are new.
>>146410589
Dont forget the amazing music
Honestly its just a great watch and i cant wait for the next 2 seasons
>>146410748
Not to mention the lives are half the experience. Symphogear is the idol version of Macross 7; it's made to sell albums.
>>146410748
Fuck off. Aoifags are cancerous shits who turn threads for every show she's into creepy worship talk and never shut up about how she's the only seiyuu in the show giving their all.
Wish there was more Zenbu & Akuma antics but it's not really that sort of series I guess.
>>146410897
Don't shitpost.
>>146410909
I hate how hard Genjuuro's relevance plummeted after S1. And in GX he may as well not even exist.
>>146411246
He had a role as a mentor as well as leading shit in S1, since the main trio had matured in S2 his scenes was reduced(not to mention the increase in characters).
I'm still mad about not giving him a good action scene in GX though.
>>146411246
He'd better have a full song and full training episode as atonement then. Leave the bridge to Elf9 if need be, he needs his field hours.
>>146404896
First post best post.
>>146405994
>>146406027
>>146404842
because it has the plot of a Rider series
Symphogear is 2gay4me.
>>146404842
japan loves a good determination to fist
also nana mizuki
>>146404842
>>146411892
I miss the first season's artstyle, quality aside. Bring back adorkable Hibiki.
>>146412852
You'll take your manly Hibiki and you'll like it.
Too bad GX didn't end with Hibiki fighting on the moon.
I watched the first season of this and the whole
>I'm gonna use this move that'll kill me but save the day in dramatic fashion
>Back and alive next episode
Got really tiring
>>146412852
>I miss QUALITY
>>146413134
>manly Hibiki
>>146413213
>that'll kill me
Superb Songs don't kill though. You got meme'd by Commie.
>>146405477
>>146413213
They aren't Swan Songs. It's just a heavily taxing thing that can easily kill you if you're doing it retardedly or a linker junkie without your fix.
>>146404896
This, they even use it in their pachinko ads as subliminal messaging.
>>146404842
its because they have shit taste
>>146413740
Better than the west's
>>146405877
>It's just mindless fun. I don't even know why I enjoyed it anymore. It's not exactly good by any stretch of the imagination.
Like 99.999999% of anime.
>>146410123
Doctor Strangelove.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtFGRci8PVQ
>>146408829
I wish Symphogear would have a season as good as A's but I fear there are just too many main girls at this point.
>>146413774
only the mainstream wests
Just watched the first episode.
I can take the idiocy, but is it fun? Like, cute girls dying in a cruel way type of fun? If yes, is the action good in it?
Because I think that is what the show is trying to communicate to me.
Symphogear is a great romp of fun and entertainment with incredibly lovable characters and great music.
>>146414617
It's a trainwreck turned mutlitrack drifting.
>>146414617
It gets less grimdark and more cheesy hotblood later on.
>>146414899
Not to sound edgy, but I guess I'll have to pass on it then.
>>146414617
Yes, the action is good. The fight choreography is excellent, especially for Hibiki. They absolutely nail her fighting style in a mixture of heavy kung fu assisted my mechanical pile-driver wrists.
The start of S1 is grimderp but in a charming way. It does a complete 180 half way through and decides to be hotblooded and crazy as fuck and then never looks back.
The music is also very good. The girls sing when they fight and a great touch is that you can hear them put exert effort and sound tired whilst singing, suggesting that the VAs were singing specifically for that scene rather than having a pre-recorded song used each time.
>>146415198
Quite literally your own loss, kiddo.
It's idol
and it's mecha
and it's magical girls
and it's sentai, I guess?
I only saw the first season though, heard the others were bad
>>146415424
No, they were excellent fun
>>146415424
G is fine to give a watch GX is pretty shit though even the audience at the live show laughed when Aoi tried to talk about Topdad.
>>146415497
The followups had some wobbling in the step but yes fun, immensely so. Especially when watched with /a/.
So the general opinion on GX is that people who watched it while it was airing thought that it was the worst thing ever and people who watched it after it was over think that it was heavily flawed but still fun. Am I right?
>>146415564
Yes.
>>146415234
>>146415279
>>146415424
I....I guess I can reconsider my ways if you anons will tell me how much of idolshit I will have to put myself through.
>>146415564
I watched it while it was airing and it was the best season with the best music.
>>146415564
Hell, I watched it as it was airing and loved it.
It was weaker than G and the second half of S1 maybe but still highly enjoyable. Definately one of those series that is made even more great when watching it with /a/
>>146415612
>idolshit
Barely any. Anytime Tsubasa actually gets to sing as an idol the concert gets disrupted by Noise (the badguys in Symphogear)
Its sentai with good singing and incredibly endearing girls.
>>146415564
I liked GX and it has it's fault but then again I marathoned it and could remember the gripes about the middle parts from livewatch threads.
At least the daddy issues can't be a basis for 4th and 5th since they're pretty much taken care of on all 3 accounts. Hibiki could have been more useful instead of losing her way for 3rd time for sure.
>>146404842
People like it's the Revengeance of the magical girl/mecha musume genre with lesbians.
>>146415615
>that Maria bullying in S2
I miss those times
>>146415564
It's just plain shit anyone who says otherwise is nothing more than their own conformation bias. I could type a autistic five page report on everything that was not only retarded about GX for an anime but for the Symphogear franchise as well but fuck that.
>>146415612
None. There's concerts in all the first episodes, but that is all there is to it. Idol fans will be disappointed if they go in expecting cute girls singing cute things. Well, except for season 2 episode 4.
>>146415612
There is no idol shit but if you don't like song aspect of the show just stop right there because it never stops.
>>146415715
A weapon to surpass Symphogear!
>>146415728
Ignore this bitter faggot.
>>146415715
Soundtrack's nowhere near as godly as MGR's though.
>>146415564
I guess. But considering the fun to shit ratio in GX is like 20:80 I have a hard time saying that it's still worthwhile.
>>146416170
You are being too melodramatic. The only shit part of GX was the daddy issues.
>>146415681
>>146415742
>>146415815
Thanks, anons. With the most annoying (for me) part being non-existant, I guess I can try to enjoy this show.
Wish me luck!
>>146416475
And yes, a big thanks to all who've replied!
>>146415564
I watched with /a/ and loved it, but yeah, after the second half /a/ generally hated it with a passion.
>>146416529
A lot of /a/ watching were just bandwagon faggots and were only interested because of the dolls.
>>146416310
>>146415564
Watched it while it was airing, and while it wasn't the worst thing ever, there was vastly more bad than good. Top Dad such an utterly unlikable piece of shit that having Hibiki still wanting to have anything to do with him severely strained her credibility as a character. Character development as a whole was horribly rushed, and half the problems were introduced the episode they were solved. Alongside the break, break, break, ignite, ignite, ignite, final battle formula, the series as a whole felt disjointed and barely coherent.
Songs were pretty great, though, and and episode 1 felt like literally everything I love about symphogear in one perfect package. Carol's battle scenes were all pretty solid, and Ver returning was amazing. They managed some good scenes, but the series overall was the weakest of the three by a significant margin.
>>146416569
Maybe, but regardless of the reason, from episode 7 onward the threads were filled with non-stop bashing of GX and it only got worse as time went on. It was a real hate craze.
>>146416685
It feels like the choreography really took a hit in GX. There was absolutely nothing interesting about any of the Noise fights, largely negating the point of bringing them back at all, and the doll fights were undercut by their results being painfully predictable.
>>146416862
I hope Noise don't come back for Season 4 and 5, and instead get a different enemy. Something that lets Hibiki fight 1 on 1 so she can get better choreography and fight scenes.
How did we go from this
>>146416310
>call shit shit
>lol ur just melodramatic
Gud 1, m8.
>>146416310
>The only shit part of GX was the daddy issues
And everything regarding Carol, the dolls, and her plan. The only good parts were the first episode and Ver.
>>146417023
To THIS
>>146417041
>Gud 1, m8.
Ah ironic shitposting. That sure told me, son.
>>146417072
Because GX is shit.
>>146416953
In S1 (and probably G, I'm still in the middle of rewatching it) the Noise fights were fine, largely because they let the characters show off their moves. I think the lack of title cards for special moves made them feel a lot more boring, and there was never any real danger from them. They just got mowed down, in boring fashion, like they just wanted to skip ahead to the next bit but they still had all these Noise they had established earlier. The Noise never felt like they had a reason to be in GX. In S1, they were a threat, and distracted from Fine pulling strings in the background. In G, they were what established FIS as a legitimate threat, as the FIS gears were pretty useless. In GX, pretty much any plot relevance they had was made redundant by the dolls, and all the interesting choreography was saved for the doll fights.
>>146409674
Yeah right
>>146417072
Not enough best girl.
>>146417301
In the first one she saw the noise coming and did a silly action jump
In the 2nd one the ground suddenly got removed from under her with no time to react
It has nothing to do with GX being shit
>>146417023
>sees an attack coming, jumps to dodge it
>>146417072
floor literally disappears beneath her feet without previous warning
They're completely different situations.
>Watching Symphogear Live! 2016
>Slowly realizing Aoi Yuki can't really sing at all
>>146418046
She is the best singer, you are wrong.
>people now think GX was good and "fun"
>half a season of the gears getting their asses handed to them every week
>followed by half a season of them winning because the villains let them
Daddy issues were shit, but they were only the tip of the iceberg of GX's problems.
>>146418151
Whatever way you look at it, It was 10 times better than S2.
>>146417901
>sensed it above her only days after starting her training
>was in no way in view
>does 2 backflips and lands perfectly
>2 years have gone by and she should be even more well trained
>fully aware she is being chased by noise that she knows can disintegrate anything
>falls flat on her ass with no grace what so ever
Stop trying to defend shit writing.
>>146418242
>Lelouch liked it
>GX confirmed worst season
This can no longer be argued everyone go home.
>>146418046
>This meme again
If she can't sing, why does she sound normal when not singing in the Hibiki voice?
>>146418266
Okay, I stopped.
>>146418046
Hibiki's songs are out of her comfort zone. Aoi's singing voice is usually a lot deeper and she usually doesn't sing badass songs like the ones in Symphogear.
https://a.pomf.cat/mmioqw.webm
https://a.pomf.cat/adiwkc.webm
This is how she usually sounds when singing.
That said, while singing as Hibiki she mostly prioritizes being in-character rather than sounding perfect. They are character songs after all.
>>146418046
Aoi Yuuki can usually sing just fine but she can't sing Symphogear songs for some reason.
>>146418046
Aoi is a good singer.
Hibiki is not naturally a good singer.
Aoi has to act singing alightly off-tune and aggresively to fit Hibiki's character.
>>146418139
>implying GENOCIDE AND GENOCIDE isn't god-tier
Gx started very good but turned shit.
For me the scene when this happened is the one where Micha destroy Gungir.
After the stalagmite destroy it disappear without hitting Hibiki.
Hibiki isn't wounded and don't even cough blood. In the firsts 2 seasons would be a mess a blood. Gx don't have a good jam scene.
>>146418477
See >>146418481
Hibiki isnt a gifted singer. It was something she was forced to get better at once that fragment of Gungnir got embedded in her heart and meant she could use her gear.
>>146418151
I always thought GX was good and fun even back then
The moments of stupid drama (Hibiki not being able to sing) was counterbalanced by stupid fun (Maria shittalking Hibiki while bleeding from the face)
>>146418242
>>146418320
Fucking tripfags always ruining everything. It had to be hypocritical Lelouch of all things.
>>146418524
Nah, she doesn't do it on purpose. She even cried after the first live because her singing sucked.
>>146418414
Point taken
>>146418790
>live
She sounds good in the studio. I havnt heard her sing live.
>>146418790
See >>146418414
She is a perfectly good singer.
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>>146418851
You're right, she sounds just fine on the studio. It's the live performances she can't handle for some reason. Just watch one and see for yourself.
>>146418923
I know, that's what I said, she's usually fine, but she can't do Symphogear songs live for some reason.
>>146418512
I agree with you. From that moment I didn't have never more the feeling that the gears could be really wounded and fights lost of all the tension.
>>146418971
Hibiki and Miku will kissu in season 4 and get married in a fancy chapel during season 5. Yurigoggle predictions never lie.
>>146418971SENKOU
>>146419194
In the doujins maybe. Meanwhile, the actual producers need to market the show to the rest of the audience too.
>>146419437
Good point, there are explosions, and fights, and things blow, and singing, and Hibiki punches the bad guy.
I want to seriously hug Chris.
>>146419603
I want to seriously pat Chris' head.
2cute
>>146419789
>>146419789
Aoi is an angel.
Was it ever explained why Kanade and the FIS girls had to be dosed up to the eyeballs on Linker to work their geahs, whereas Chris and Tsubasa were fine without
>>146420881
sync rate
I will post this every thread until they dock.
>>146420978
>>146420978
How many have docked so far
>>146420978
>252 posts in
legit worried you weren't going to make it
>>146420907
care to elaborate?
>>146420978
>>146421078
Linker increases sync rate, if their sync rate is too low they get weak and un-henshin or can't even henshin in the first place.
>>146421078
Chris and Tsubasa have natural compatibility.
FIShitters don't and need to use drugs.
Miku is the best~
>>146419194
Who will kiss first?
>Hibiki Miku
>Tsubasa Maria
>Kirika Shirabe
>Topdad Topmom>Tsubasa Noise!Kanade
>>146421189
>Chris and Tsubasa have natural compatibility
Just genetically blessed, or does it come from something else?
Come to think of it why isn't Shirabe naturally compatible considering she's a Fine reincarnation
>>146404842
It's because the the director or whatever used ti make PS2 games, and this show is like watching PS2 game. Its crazy, over the top, and plain fun to watch.
>Sounds amazing in studio
>Sounds even better live
>Has the best song in Symphogear
>Won an award for best actress
>Is the next Nana Mizuki
>Almost as cute as Aoi
How come 4chan doesn't love her?
>>146421294
Yeah, Miku is great. Agreeing to film me and Hibiki like that.
>>146421189
Depending on what Ver meant by AI DESU YO, compatibility might have something else to it that we don't know yet.
Maria needs Linker but she's able to use multiple Gears.
>>146421385
But anon, I do love her.
Anyone have any Symphogear webms?
>>146424178
I have a few
also this one which isn't strictly Symphogear
https://a.pomf.cat/venxrt.webm
>>146424178
The second season was the craziest train since Geass R2.
>>146424480
>>146425057
Shit like this is why I love Symphogear.
>>146407479
Nope, she's garbage. That retard ruined the series.
>>146414078
There's a point where the mindlessness becomes too mindnumbing to remain enjoyable even by anime standards, and the series has long since reached that point.
>>146406559
/m/ ALWAYS have sympho thread like /vg/ has love live threads.
>>146405432
Genki girls are the greatest.
>>146404842
>Cute girls fisting with hotblooded screams
what is not to like you fag
All seasons are top fun, you have to see Symphogear as you would see a toku series.
>>146418046
You're an idiot. Aoi can sing just fine, but HIBIKI can't sing well.
>>146419005
Because she's not SUPPOSED to. How dumb are you? She's supposed to sing off-key. Everyone else on the team has been singing their whole lives, Shirabe and Kirika included. She's been singing for what, a year?
>>146431569
>she's supposed to
Why did she cry at the live then? Because she did such a good job at singing off-key?
>>146432681
You should really refrain from assuming things if you don't know Japanese. Makes you sound like a tool.
>>146433155
I know Japanese though. You need to stop being such a mouth breathing fan boy and get triggered every time somebody states the obvious fact that Aoi has difficulties singing in Symphogear lives. Clearly Aoi has gotten over it, you should to.
>>146434142
>I know Japanese
>Aoi was crying at the live because she has a hard time singing
>even though that wasn't what she said in the 2013 or 2016 concert at all, and only applies to the 2012 live after FLS which we have no footage on
>but I totally know Japanese
k
>>146434735
I was talking about the 2012 live.
>>146434769
>I am using a concert that I haven't attended or watched as the core of my argument, even though we only have word of mouth to go by (and from Aoi herself, not the most unbiased source)
You aren't very smart, are you. Again, nobody is saying Aoi doesn't struggle while singing except that one namefag (even somebody Nana does) but I think most of the time what Aoi is does on stage flies over people heads even though both Nana and Aoi have talked about it before. That is pretty irritating, specially when it's so obvious.
>>146434900
It's not the core of my argument. I don't need to know that whether she cried or not to, I just have to listen to her singing and see that she that she can't do it, her voice is wobbly and painfully unstable. She sings off-key even in the less intense parts. Sure, she works around it with her attitude, but it's ridiculous to say her voice sounds so bad on purpose. She just can't do Hibiki and sing at the same time.
>>146435027
>I don't need to know that whether she cried or not to
*I don't need to know whether she cried or not
Don't know how that sentence ended up so messed up during editing.
AOI IS CRYING RIGHT NOW
>>146415564
The first 4 episodes were somewhat cool, particularly the first. Then it went downhill and never recovered.
>>146435346
>>146435027
They are character songs, Hibiki is an amateur singer and a rash person in general and Aoi is mostly an actress first and a singer later. To give you an idea of her mindset she has been working as an actress since she was 4 years-old.
Aoi after the 2012 live had to decide between doing her best at singing Hibiki songs in a "proper" way or singing them as Hibiki, Nana encouraged her to "be herself" on stage so she decided to focus on the performance part and she was really moved when the crowd enjoyed it so much during the 2013 concert.
What you are doing is amounts to someone complaining about how an idol "sounds bad" while singing when that isn't even the central point of her performance. Aoi is trying to portray a character because she has always been an actress and not a singer.
I mean, all of what I wrote is really obvious to anyone with a working brain and I can tell from the way you type that this isn't the first time I had this conversation with you.
So yeah, feel free to believe whatever you want but you are completely missing the point of Aoi's performance, and what makes her performances so special.
At least try not to force your narrative by ignorant things the seiyuu have stated themselves while latching to a single incident that happened years ago.
>>146435451
I know point of the performance, I just said she works her way around her singing difficulties with her attitude, but that doesn't make her singing any better from a technical perspective. What's bad is just bad, and her singing is bad in those shows. Whether it's a good show or not is a different matter entirely. And I don't base myself on her crying in 2012, I base my point on the two lives I watched in which she sings terribly.
>>146435553
Must be a complete mystery then how she has no issue singing in all sort of voices on Petit Milady or her solo performances.(now, in 2016, back when she was starting she naturally struggled)
But nah, she sings bad in Symphogear lives because she is a bad singer.
>What is bad is just bad
>objectively bad
Nice argument, totally not something I might heard on /v/.
>>146404896
B I K I B U T T
>>146421385
Found the KR shill.
>>146435553
Aoi "doesn't work her way around her singing difficulties", she is using a completely different skill-set as an actress to display the emotions of her character through her voice. Not everybody can do this the way Aoi does, hence why she is always so praised by everybody on the staff.(Ayahi, Agematsu, Kaneko, etc)
And this seem to fly completely over your head.
You are over-simplying and outright ignoring the facts in favor of your "lol wtf Aoi is a bad singer" narrative.
Please stop, it just makes you look like a fool.
>>146435932
My point is she's bad ON Symphogear lives. I never said she's a bad singer, not even once.
I'll repeat, you need to stop being such a mouth breathing fanboy and being triggered every time somebody points out this obvious fact. You have to be deaf or dumb to think Aoi doesn't sing horribly in those lives.
>>146418790
That's super fucking sad.
>>146436106
>she is using a completely different skill-set as an actress to display the emotions of her character through her voice.
I know, and that's fine, but clearly she can't do that and sing on key at the same time, that's all I'm saying.
Threadly reminder the following seasons will involve Hibiki moving away from Miku and getting a boyfriend.
>>146436292
Even better. A happy non-degenerate biki AND a bullied Miku.
>>146436126
Not agreeing with your denial of something whose reasons are so obvious and has been stated by both Nana and Aoi on different occasion doesn't make me a fanboy.
I will never concede on you downplaying (or taking them for granted) Aoi's talent on getting on stage and portraying her character emotions through her voice and body language, so either fuck off or come out with a better argument other than ad-hominems and repeating "but she sings bad!" over and over again.
Also you should be able to put two and two together as to why she sounds like she does while performing Bikki songs while she sounds normal elsewhere else.
>leave thread
>come back
>this >>146410897 happened
Another thread ruined by Aoi shitters who just can't accept that their goddess isn't #1 in the industry and has flaws.
>>146436039
>implying S4 won't kill off Tsubasa and replace her with Carol who has completely manifested in 11-9's body
Aoi is a bad singer, I mean doesn't she know that she wouldn't be screaming her head off mid-song or she will trouble issues keeping her breath? I guess nobody told her.
>>146436626
She's not a bad singer, she's just incapable of doing Hibiki and singing live at the same time, thus covers it up by making her show really hype and giving it her all. Or, as Aoi fanboys say, she sings bad on purpose because that's acting.
Shut up and post Chris.
>>146436346
I don't understand how it's an argument. For me, Aoi's awkward singing in S1 especially is what sold me on the whole premise, and she's a really fun VA to listen to. I don't really care about her skill as a singer.
>>146437078
You have to understand that just because somebody states a fact about her singing, in this case that it's wobbly and off-key on the Symphogear lives, does not mean one doesn't like her, her acting or her performance. One doesn't need to pretend that everything she does is perfect or deliberate to appreciate her talent.
The other day I was listening to "Art of Life" by X-Japan and there is this segment of the song where Yoshiki seemingly hits random dissonant notes on his piano that aren't pleasing to the ear at all, this segment goes on for various minutes. I came to the conclusion that he was at his job and the song was bad. Objectively speaking, of course.
t. random dude on /a/ that doesn't know the first thing about musical performances but is extremely opinionated anyway
>>146437274
That's kind of my point. Her singing may not be great at symphogear lives. She's still a great VA and can sing fine in other circumstances. The only reason for an argument is the 'Aoi is bad at singing' thing, which was cleared up way up here >>146418414
I don't understand why there was a sudden explosion of points arguing the fact well after it felt like it was already made clear.
>>146436292
>implying
It's obvious they will always stay in best friends limbo. Symphogear has no place for relevant male characters and you know it.
Every season has some great songs and the characters are really likeable.
Yukine is the cutest girl I have ever seen in chinese cartoons.
>>146406861
>Using the power of music to defeat their enemies
>This is perfectly fine
>But Genjuro gaining superhuman strength from watching Kung-Fu Movies and eating Ramen is not
>>146437679
>Symphogear has no place for relevant male characters and you know it
Never say never. I don't think they've really known what to do with this series since they finished S1, so who knows what direction they'll take it next? I could definitely see boy band villains becoming a thing, though I hope not.
>>146437503
>'Aoi is bad at singing' thing
I never said that. My point has always been simply that her singing in the Symphogear lives is problematic and, in my opinion, just ugly as far as singing goes. Saying she is bad at singing and saying she is singing badly when trying to do a certain specific performance are different things and you'd do well not to mix up people who are saying the latter with people who are saying the former, and also not to mix up neither of those with saying she puts on a bad show.
>>146438236
Introducing a boy villain that gets infatuated with Hibiki leading to SENKOU or at least an extremely flustered Miku could actually be pretty entertaining. Of course, in the end everything ends in nothing. Nobody wants to see consummated romances involving Hibiki.
>>146404842
Because it's got everything.Yuri.Battles. Friendship Is Magic. Great music. Girls. Nonsense mythological references.
>>146438533
Not the Anon you were talking to but you should really learn to express yourself better before deciding to share your thoughts.
Right now the vast majority of your post sound like you are going through some intense amount of back-pedaling with all the "that's not what I meant" and "I never said that(except you did)".
Maybe read yours posts again later and try to spot where the misunderstanding might have come from.
>>146440508
>nonsense mythological references
Wish it had more of these. I want Hibiki to prove herself in a fight against Odin.
>>146404842
It upsets me to no end this garbage gets season after season while other stuff languishes in purgatory.
>>146404842
This is the best post about Symphogear on 4chan imo.
>>146438533
I'm saying there is no need to further argue the point. You're basically in full agreement with the prevailing opinion, so there's no need to keep presenting arguments. To summarize:
Aoi's singing as Hibiki in lives is not so good.
Aoi's singing in her own voice is fine.
Aoi's VA performance as Hibiki is pretty great.
Discussion over.
>>146421385
Cause Carol is fucking awful. I would have no problem dumping DMJii to add her as another character though.
>>146440707
Yeah, that anon gets it. Symphogear is fun because it makes for one hell of a spectacle.
>>146440707
>Yuri
It was close to being good but they had to mess it up.
>>146436929
CHOSSEI!Zenbu
>>146440707
Yeah but almost none of that was in GX. The opening sequence being as good as it was clouds peoples judgment.
>>146438012
Yes because they explain the power of music comes from magical ancient relics
>>146440529
You should probably learn to read better, how can I be backpedaling when I've been emphasizing those distinctions from the start?
>>146436929
CHOSSEI! in this thread
>>146437679
>Symphogear has no place for relevant male characters
I'll take who is doctor ver for 200
>>146441471
>has to constantly clarify and explain itself to the ones he is replying
>somehow I am the one that cannot read
You are incorrigible.