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I want to put so many ribbons on Lise, you'd barely be able to see her hair.

>>146373172
Iris looks so high here.

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>>146373172
>Save in the name of tru luv
Well when you put it that way

>>146374641
Lise is way too cute. Theo doesn't deserve her.

>>146375063
He really doesn't. But thats unconditional love for ya. He's a dopey onii-chan, but he's her dopey onii-chan.

Lise 2loving2precious for this world.

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>>146373285
Well this artist had the right idea.

>you like ribbons?
>here you go, ribbons? Not enough? Here's more, you ribbon slut.
>yeah, that's a nice look

>>146373172
Traitorous whore

Any word on those doujin scans? I know a couple of anon were buying them.

>select Japanese street signs
>captcha says it's wrong

Fuck you captcha.

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>>146374599
She's on the most powerful drug ever known my man.

Love.

>>146375063
I still don't understand the visceral hate people have for Theo. It's like they pretend they'd do not just a better job, but an immeasurably better job in his position.

Gretel is so ugly, not even faceless old men would touch her!

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>MLA coming out on Steam
>Not soon

Can't wait for it. I replay it every year, and this year I have a good reason, too.

Oh the thread will be glorious.

>>146377180
>visceral hate
Where do you see that you over reactionary baby?

Love Lise
Pamper Lise

why must 1st. Lieutenant sacrifice herself? She is such a likable character and skilled Eishi yet she had to sacrifice herself just to blow up the hive reactor? Why characters like that must have death flags waved upon them? It saddens me.

why must 1st. Lieutenant Hayase sacrifice herself? She is such a likable character and skilled Eishi yet she had to sacrifice herself just to blow up the hive reactor? Why characters like that must have death flags waved upon them? It saddens me.

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>>146373172
Will we get to save Iris and make her a mother?

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>>146378710
I like to think so.

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Europe indeed has fallen. So what is left is just the Asian Alliance and the US? What about Russia? I thought they still exist as seen in TE?

>>146379767
>Europe indeed has fallen. So what is left is just the Asian Alliance and the US? What about Russia? I thought they still exist as seen in TE?
No, the EU and WP in exile, the USSR, the Arab league and the African Union continue to exist as well. And the whole American Continent wasn't touched by the BETA of course, with that one exception in Canada. And the USSR is as much a shithole as East Germany, but the story doesn't focus on that.

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>>146379767
They're just talking about the space facilities.

Isn't that wrong anyways? I thought ESA primary facilities were in French Guyana? I guess here, they'd be in southern Italy, but even that isn't the best of launch vectors.

And the USSR does exist, but they are mostly in exile, and definitely don't have launch facilities (ironically, they probably rent launches from NASA kekekekek) - they only have half of Alaska that's rented to them, and Kamchatka. The Soviet space facilities at Baikanour were overrun decades ago.

I kinda forgot how annoying Yuuko's America bitching can get at times.

>>146379873
>>146379873
>USSR is as much a shithole as East Germany, but the story doesn't focus on that.

Is TE a spin off of the Muv-Luv Alternative VN or a sequel? Because I am now at point where they are planning to destroy and subjugate Original Hive once and for all. So I'm just wondering why are there no references of Russia since they have superior technology and the capabilities to create super soldiers like Cryska and Inia?

>>146380087
The Main plot of TE is set in the summer before Unlimited/Alternative. And on the matter of the espers. Where do you think Kasumi came from? She was manufactured, just like Cryska and Inia. The thing is, that's classified. And the Soviets made damn sure that no one found out about all the spin-off technologies from Alt III.

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>>146380087
TE is a prequel by about only a year, and while I don't want to spoil things for you, where TE ACTUALLY ends (the VN), it's not where it ended in the show. If you remember the railguns Empire forces use, they came from TE, for example.

For all their technology and stuff, you have to realize the USSR is a shadow of itself. It's literally only existing due to American goodwill. They are down to a few million people, at the very best. If you're a commie/slavaboo, take heart - it's lasted longer than the real life USSR.

Also, as said, where do you think Kasumi came from? If Kasumi is even her real name lolololol.

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Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yff2xOFo4mg

When is Strike Frontier coming out?

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>>146380910

Guys, I have something to clarify. I'm sure that I have seen an anon posted a webm on the Meiya and Takeru cutting through the edge of the cliff in a Fubuki. But I have not seen it anywhere as I'm reading the VN so far. Did I miss anything?

>>146381886
It happens later on in Unlimited.

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>>146381886
>He skipped Unlimited

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PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE

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>>146373172
>>146380976
>>146382131

Does Meiya have a crush on Takeru in Alternative?

>>146382663
Yes.

>>146382663
No.

>>146382663
Obligatory maybe.
I guess you haven't reached the ending yet.

Did that TSF game ever come out?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_DdJifdnVs

I have this theory that the constant threads are by the gretelfag

>>146383803
No I don't make the threads
If that was the case Gretel will be on the OP image

>>146383159
Not yet.

Why are all blondes such worthless whores?

>>146385911
Reminder that Brazil is a non-country inhabited by subhumans that think they are people.

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>>146387111
>bumping the thread with this garbage
if he wants to be like bear let him

>>146383753
Gretel should be brutally beaten up and raped like all commie scum.

>>146381211
I want to rape Cryska

>>146383126
>>146383013
Damn! meiya's final moments is really an emotional thriller for me. What a sad ending

>>146388618
Obligatory extended-version BGM which will show up in the upcoming release along with that musical glitch towards the end, dammit age fix it already.
t. >>>/m/7980510

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbzHGbqRq9c

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Would you suddenly and forcefully kiss pre-Jurgen Bea?

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>>146389438

>>146389438
If she let me

>>146389438
I could beat those tits like a bongo.

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With both Martyrs and the 12 and probably last BiS Chapter roughly a month away, how do you think they will handle this? Will Iris doing the deed enter canon like hair twirl? Will they explain Iris' and Bea's falling out properly?

>>146390705
It makes more sense for Beatrix to pull the trigger. That way, theirs more equivalency between the two. They'd both have Jurgen's blood on their hands (and thus both have reason to hate the other). It's also more in character for Axmann to have Beatrix do it to "free her from the chains of morality," as he had done with Lise.

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Did Makishima finish off the Alt mango? Pic related's the last tank I see in JP Amazon, and it looks like it covers the Kashgar arc.

Then again it's still on Dengeki Daioh's list of mango so dunno.

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Who should voice Jurgen?

>>146391366
Norio Wakamoto

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So kasumi is the same as Scarlet Twins given that they are all originated from Russia?

And that conversion with the BETA has bugging me. The creator that creates BETA is not a life form, then what will it be? A spiritual being?
I guess the all these enigma will be left unanswered.

I want to do lewd things to Lise.
Lewd things like brushing her hair without her permission

>>146373172
>threads die
>nobody cares
>still spam them anyway
>get deleted by mods
Why don't you Muvfags take a goddamn hint?
>>>/trash/

>>146391533
>Muvfags
>s
Much like your campaign, this is the responsibility of one autistic person.

Get some help from a shrink.

>>146391421
>So kasumi is the same as Scarlet Twins given that they are all originated from Russia?
Yes. And like >>146380224 & >>146380910 said, and you should have picked up in game, they all exist thanks to ALT III.

>The creator that creates BETA is not a life form, then what will it be? A spiritual being?
Reread it. The Superior states pretty clearly what they define as life, and their creators fit their definition.

>>146391533
thanks doc

>>146391647
But why are their concept of life contradicts humans? If BETA and human beings are both life forms capable of reproduce and comprehend things then why can't they accept human beings as another intelligent life? I feel that the BETA is just beating around the bush, not providing a concrete answer.

wait, latest chapter's in the previous DD release, now to get a hold of it..

>>146392028
Think of the BETA as robots. These robots were programmed to pick apart rocks and gather flowers for their overlords. These overlords are silicon lifeforms, so when they programmed the robots, they never bothered to add "oh yeah carbon can make life to guys" since it didn't matter.

>>146392028
Si

>>146392028
To add to this: >>146392102 Think of the BETA as organic von Neumann machines, compliant with a silicon life-oriented Three Laws.

>>146392102
So basically the "creators" who created and programmed the BETA are actually Silicon life forms? If that is the case I wonder will they even reveal the Silicon alien's identity.

>>146391366
Jun Fukuyama would be a great fit.

>>146391419
Hasn't he already voiced one of the characters in ML?

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Nothing to see here, just best girl doing something about the damn cockroaches.

>>146380087
Because age dislikes the mainland. Especially USSR.

>muh usa space station and moon colony that had an army in 60s and developed TSFs later, but soviet have the exact same tech level as real
>muh usa nukes work, but soviet nukes don't
>muh yamato damashii, but soviets are anti heroes at best

>>146392790
>dat knee to the nose

Damn, Sylwia is brutal.

>>146392830
Yeah. All the most evil characters in ML are, or were, all communist. Beatrix, Sandek, Axmann, Theo, all commies of one variety or another.

>>146393007
>beato
>commie

kek.

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>>146393007
>Beatrix
>Sandek
>Theo
>Communist
The most likely candidate is Theo, but he'd spout whatever for some pussy, much less believe in it.

>>146393007
>Axmann
>communist
He'd be whatever he needs to be if he can profit from it.

Just finished Muv-Luv Alternative VN. I have to say that it is a great piece off work. Props to the story writers who actually took the time to write such an emotional story. How is this VN faring during its years?

Moreover just to confirm one thing, is this VN the last of the whole Muv-Luv chronology?

>>146393851
No, there's TDA, which branches off of Unlimited and chronologically takes place after Alt.

>>146393851
>>146394242

Next Answer also chronologically takes place after (and before, it's complicated) Alternative.

How would Iris feel about green tea?

>>146389438
>>146389580
I want to nut deep inside her and make her squeal.

>>146373172
Irisdina a beauty

>>146394424
I want to put her (or as an alternative Iris) on my lap and finger her until she gets so horny she literally follows me around begging me to finally fuck her.

How raped is Theo if you put aphrodisiacs in Iris and Lise's food?

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>>146375385
Is he going to cover Iris in P1001s for her birthday illustration?

>>146395675
>Walther
Goddamnit, Irisdina.
It's barely a step above dickgripgun.

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>>146395730
Beatrix uses the same gun.

>>146395861
Why do Nomenklatura princesses have such shit taste in guns?

>>146395861
The Makarov was the standard issue sidearm on the Pact

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>>146392830
It is just convenient to write the ruskies of instead of actually try to make them capable to do anything. It would be hard to write the soviets developing their own TSF months after hearing about the US developing their own thus you would have two different designs based on different principles and ideas. You could bet that the ruskies would develop their own weapons and stuff for their TSF design and thus you will have more work to do.

But technologically the US and USSR and everyone else is exactly the same level as they were IRL with the exception of giant robots and other things.

>muh nukes
The US had a whole year to see what happens if you dont nuke a hive the moment it lands. They also had no idea how hives worked at that time.

>>146393007
>Beatrix
>communist
>Axmann
>communist
What did you smoke? Beatrix hate communism to the core. Axmann is a man that have loyality to no one except power.

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>>146396049
Nigga, that's no Makarov.

>>146395914
It's the gun that killed Jurgen

>>146396104
You can thank the QUALITY for that

>>146396090
>. It would be hard to write the soviets developing their own TSF months after hearing about the US developing their own
Or you could write about them developing their own tech, while usa is busy with the moon.

For example, Espers. I mean, them appearing with no prior setting handwave development is silly too.

And a nuke is a nuke. Even if the hive digs 1km under, a Tsar bomba tier nuke will erase it.

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>>146380976
I am

>>146396545
>And a nuke is a nuke. Even if the hive digs 1km under, a Tsar bomba tier nuke will erase it.
Problem is that you have to get the nuke on the hive.

And we all know about the laser class. Throw in the "we want to capture the hives because beta magic is inside it" and it will be harder to get the chance to nuke a hive.

Lisehime's smile must be protected.

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bump

>>146395675
>>146395861
Bitches should have been issued a Makarov like >>146396049 said.

>>146398075
They also should've solved all their differences in violent hatesex until they can't hate each other anymore.

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>>146392830
Well besides the fact that the Soviet empire in general was filled with a lot of pretty bad dudes, and that everyone threw it off the first chance they got, it speaks for itself.

As for tech - not exactly. This may be hard for Pactboos to comprehend, but the Soviets were always a bit behind the technology curve. Things would advance now and then (sending up Sputnik), but usually, they would be behind on technologies. Especially as the last part of the Cold War dragged on, the gulf only grew vaster, especially in computers, biotech, controls.

>>146393007
>Commie
>Beatrix
Nigga wut.

>Theo
You do know he absolutely hates the system, right?

>Sandek and Axmann
Both want power for it's own sake in the end.

>>146396090
>It would be hard to write the soviets developing their own TSF months after hearing about the US developing their own thus you would have two different designs based on different principles and ideas

Well except they tried - and failed miserably. You can't just magically handwave them equivalency, because they weren't. You have to remember too that TSFs started as moonwalker exosuits. But clearly they did go into their own work when they were donated the F-4R, and made the Mig-21 from that.

>You could bet that the ruskies would develop their own weapons and stuff for their TSF design and thus you will have more work to do.

But they already do. They manufacture the whole set, based on their research, and their development. They have a lot of unique pieces of kit.

>But technologically the US and USSR and everyone else is exactly the same level as they were IRL with the exception of giant robots and other things.

No, they're not. Computers are said to be a bit behind, but other stuff, analog stuff is more advanced.

>The US had a whole year to see what happens if you dont nuke a hive the moment it lands. They also had no idea how hives worked at that time.

But they did. Did you forget the whole lunar war?

>>146398219
But that would have prevented SM from happening, like when Theo executed Katia. So we don't get sweaty, kinky Nomeklatura-princess lesbian sex, just like we didn't get full edge Theo.

>>146398075

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_PP#Users
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?216901-East-German-Vopo-WWII-PPK
http://luger.gunboards.com/archive/index.php/f-59.html

Apparently East Germany did use PPKs (and a wide variety of leftover Lugers, P38s, Sauer 38Hs, and so forth) after World War II, although mostly by the Volkspolizei. They also produced a PP or PPK clone for a while, my sources are a bit unclear.

So it's not impossible for Iris and Bea to be using PPKs or clones thereof.

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>you will never be violently teased by Cui in a J-XX

Just kill me already!

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>>146395675
>>146395861
>>146396104

Walther was originally based in what became East Germany, but Karl Walther was fortunate enough to get out of there with a briefcase full of schematics. Sadly, this apparently did not include the model 2, 5, or 9.

I can see the nomenklatura princesses wanting to use left over Walthers instead of the commie knock-off little people were forced to use.

>>146398564
>TSFs started as moonwalker exosuits
>USSR a bit behind the technology curve

>Developed best military hardware and made their own nukes in late 40s
>Had all of the space firsts, except for the man on the moon, and including the space station

Space wouldn't be possible without hi tech, including computers, biotech, controls.

>>146399148
I want to sneak on them with scissors and cut those dresses up.

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>>146390705
>enter canon like hair twirl
If there was never any mention or implication of Lise twirling her hair with a slasher grin in the LN let alone doing so drenched in blood, why would they keep adding it to every adaptation? Because its boner fuel? If Watanabe wanted to make her more cartoonishly evil after stasification then fine he had his agenda and its not the only thing messed up about the anime, and besides it was pretty hot anyways. But why change her to have her do more crazed psychopathic things in the VN too if she's also getting a route? And to make it even more extreme?

I've got a feeling its tide to Axmann's death in her route which would explain the copious amounts of blood. Its the only situation in which it could work otherwise they'll have changed her character to an even greater degree than the anime did.

>>146399243
>I've got a feeling its tide to Axmann's death in her route which would explain the copious amounts of blood.
It could be a bad end though. What if Theo manages to get his ass killed before Lise has a chance to "win" in any way. I could imagine whoever killed him might get a taste of a fully sadistic Lise, no matter who it is.

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>>146399148
>>146399243
I really hate the anime.

>>146399590
>Bremer
I know it's an actual surname, but it sounds like a race in TES games.

I want to steal all of 666th girls' panties
Except for Katia's. Those probably smell awful and I'd hate to wash my hands more than usual.

>>146399590
That fool probably doesn't yet know who Jürgen is.

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Made for bullying.
High-ranking enough for bullying actually hurt her reputation and has best reactions.

>>146399148
How hard would you headpat these two?

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>>146399158
Did you not see where I said they spurted ahead at times? You have to also remember not only did they get more German scientists from the collapsing Third Reich, but America wasn't full throttle in the space race until the Soviet's struck first blood, while they were, and they didn't really have to worry about things like trying to get a bigger part of the national budget. Of course they'd still have a lead from then on, but over time, they lost that lead. And from there, that fall behind only intensified. Landers on Moon? Failure. Probes on Mars? Failure after failure after failure.

The space race was their longest lasting briefly ahead moment, but even there they stagnated eventually. And the inescapable fact is the Soviets were ALWAYS behind or completely dependent on the West for basics like C&C machining, microcontrollers, integrated circuits, control valves, farming equipment, mining equipment, high stress components, and the list goes on and on without end. And that's just high technology. They couldn't even fucking feed themselves half the time. The 'proletarian state' couldn't even manufacture a goddamn pair of jeans. We're talking small countries like South Korea overtaking the USSR technologically by the 80s, let alone bigger countries like Japan, West Germany, etc.


>Developed best military hardware and made their own nukes in late 40s
>Developed best military hardware

What are you smoking? Well, it's an opinion I guess, but don't try to pass it off as fact. And what's surprising is it took them all the way till 49 to test a nuke, when they had direct pipelines of spies for years feeding them everything. Not saying they didn't make remarkable strides, but the SS-21's raw power isn't that impressive when you remember that they made nuclear tips have larger yields because rockets are in general inaccurate, and the Soviets NEVER were able to make it better. America stopped this because they were able to develop guidance technology.

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>>146399467
A bad end actually makes even more sense. Theo dying is the most likely scenario to cause that sort of reaction in her. It gives them an excuse to use something fun from the anime while still staying at least somewhat true to her original character instead of totally reworking her canon behaivor.

>>146399243
Lad, chill, I think it may just be an imagination spot of Theo's.

>>146399590
RAGE

They won't even see the VNs, what's the point of trying to correct them dammit.

>>146400332
Godfuckingdamn, she looks so warm and cuddly here.
I want to tug her in bed and headpat her to sleep.

>>146400447
People don't really follow up comments on Boorus anyways, so it'd be even more futile.

>>146400261
> get more German scientists from the collapsing Third Reich
>USSR refused the help of german scientists soon after they started to use them

>America wasn't full throttle in the space race until the Soviet's struck first blood,
USA spent 5% of their national budget every year on space. That's as full throttle as it gets.

And landers on moon, probes on mars were lost, but some reached their goal. And after that, first test of the space suit, first space station and other breakthoughs, including development of their own shuttle/launch rocket combo that even returned and landed in full auto.

> ALWAYS behind or completely dependent on the West for basics
Don't confuse 90s and USSR.

>when they had direct pipelines of spies for years feeding them everything.
While that is a feat in its own, they've built all of the infrastructure they needed to finish development and production in earlier 40s, on their own. While they were at war with the entire europe. And then Japan's mainland army.

Also, all nukes are guided, because the earth is huge. Nobody ever launched them like a mortar.

>>146399590
Fuck the anime.

It is interesting to see what sort of warped opinions it has produced though. Here's a few excerpt from some shitty fanfics I've found:

>Beatrix smiled at the bound Irisdina and spoke, "You know, my soldiers haven't seen a woman in a long time, I wonder if you'd be interested in 'entertaining' them Irisdina? Of course, maybe I might save you for myself"

>Beatrix licked her lips as she ran a finger down Irisdina's belly.

>Irisdina then spat at Beatrix, Beatrix wiped off the spit and grabbed Irisdina's head, "when we get back to Berlin, I'll make sure you learn the true meaning of despair, Cpt. Bernhard!" said Beatrix as she slammed Irisdina's head into the wall and left Irisdina in her cell.

The best part is Beatrix's plans is to kill everyone in Berlin for the lulz, and Theo kills her by stomping her face in.

>>146401301
>>Irisdina then spat at Beatrix, Beatrix wiped off the spit and grabbed Irisdina's head,
would have been hotter if she swallowed it

>>146401301
How is Lise represented in shitty fanfics?

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>>146400447
>Lad, chill
>RAGE
Oh you.

>it may just be an imagination spot of Theo's
Now that would be true to character.

>>146400519
The juxtaposition between her looks and natural mannerisms versus the torturous and sexual horrors she experienced makes what she went through even harder to stomach. Its like seeing a puppy get used as live bait for pit-fighting dogs.
>constantly crying whenever she's alone for Onii-chan to save her during her time spent at the mercy of Axmann's inhuman sadistic whims

>>146401344
>That was strangely pleasant. Do it again.
I'm sorry for that kind of reference

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Cryska, Inia and Yui are my waifus.

>>146401526
Inia is a slut whose hair is white because of all the semen spilled on her.

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>>146401301
>implying Beatrix wouldn't wipe the spit and lick it

Disappointed/10

>>146399647
Isn't Beatrix's surname Brehme anyways? Not Bremer?

Stella is a Bremer.

>>146401583
Rude, de gozaimasu!

>>146401379
She isn't even mentioned in that one. Guess the stasi killed her or something.

There's another fic (the Inghilde one) that treats her sympathetically and then has Beatrix kill her for being "worthless" when she won't fire on the 666th.

Strike Frontier release when?

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>>146401997
When Kouki stops desiring new cars.

>>146401344
>>146401519
>>146401684
>you will never swap saliva with Beato

>>146402353
>you will never stab Beatrix through her left breast and stare into her eyes, telling her her ideals are shit as she goes into shock and dies

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>>146402353

>>146403330
I want to stab her through her left breast with my undying love and resolve to make her happy

>>146401997
Soon, perhaps. Kouki needs new cars after all!

>>146399647
Beatrix certainly has the attitude to be one of those Thalmor bastards.

>>146406193
Pham. You were so sweet, yet so stupid.

Does anyone have the last page of the Unlimited manga to hand? After all these years I replayed the steam version and literally forgot that it doesn't end with Takeru's mecha reaching up to the stars from its deathbed.

>>146406448
She wanted to save in the name of true love.

She knew it requires sacrifice, to see the better day tomorrow.

She knew what she was doing. That poor, sweet girl.

So anyone knows when the next part of the VN is coming out?
Really want to see Theo going the imouto route.

>>146409016
And she achieved nothing in the end except turning Theo's resolve to kill his sister iron. Her death was an unnecessary tragedy.

>>146408805
Why are fortified suits allowed to be so sexy?

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>>146409748
Mostly to confuse your dick, especially when they get killed.

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>>146409216
'bout 30 days. Probably.

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>>146409748
It just werks

>>146409216

http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/sm/

It's scheduled for September 30th

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Why is Katia the default route?

>>146411869
because age hasn't made sound business decisions for a decade

>>146412093
Do the Japs even like Katia? Moe-blobs are usually pretty popular, but she isn't even the most moe.

>>146412597
she's not a very popular SM, no

How closely related are Theo and Lise? As cute as those two are it'd be heartbreaking if they couldn't have kids.

>>146412873
Very, very distant relatives.

>>146412604
I'm always kind of surprised she's not more popular. Japs usually drink up her type.

>>146414763
japs are mega huge irisfags, and beato secures the second spot.

katia is just too bland, so when it turned out the ln and anime was her route everyone did a double take and said "what?"

>>146414825
What could they have done to salvage Katia's character?

>>146414974
most characters develop through trials and tribulations. from what i saw katia doesn't really change from those trials and seems content on staying the exact what she is.

as an irisfag myself, i'm not sure how to hold this discussion beyond that

>>146398564
>>146396090
>>146392830
>>146380910
The reason the USSR seems so irrelevant is that from a meta perspective, BETA are supposed to be a direct alien stand-in for the Soviet Bloc in Muv-Luv.

The whole NATO/Soviet dichotomy was that the Soviets always had numerical superiority, but NATO had more effective force multipliers through better application of technology on the battlefield. Something mirrored almost exactly by BETAs. Notice how MLU and MLA (not the side materials which were retconned in later) handwaves the Soviets out of existence with little more than a footnote in a brief lecture by Yuuko, and replaces them with BETA. They also suppose there have been pretty much fuckall in terms of military hardware advancements outside of the TSFs in 30+ years of total war such that all the tanks and aircraft and so forth have basic parity with the world in 2001.

This is the only reasonable explanation for Africa's mysterious continued survival in ML - from a meta standpoint it mirrors a conventional conflict between NATO and WarPac+China, where Western Europe has fallen along with the Middle East, and the focus of the war is now on the remaining allies of the United States: the United Kingdom in the European theater, Japan/Taiwan in the Far East, Malaysia/Singapore/Philippines in Southeast Asia, and Egypt in North Africa.

Furthermore, many of the political arguments and ideas during the MLA coup arc are almost directly lifted from Japanese mindsets surrounding how the US would or would not respond (concerning Article 9 and the Mutual Security Pact) if the cold war were to go hot, but not thermonuclear.

tl;dr BETA are just commies.

>>146415567
>you will never convince Beato that the BETA are space commies

>>146415730
Why would you want to do that?

>>146416122
Someone has to break the 4th wall with meta injokes and comments no one would understand.

>>146415730
>Beato
Would her name be abbreviated as Beato? I know a Beatrix but everyone calls her Trix.

I plan to read TE Visual Novel. Does it have any English translations?

>>146416886
Her actual nickname is Bea.

>>146416955
Sadly no, not as far as I know. An anon is trying to get through it.

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>>146401301
Why do people think Beatrix is a lesbo?

>>146417733
Because she has gender issues

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Do you fags like Kirke?

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リィズルートでぜひこれを装備して欲しい

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>>146417891
Gender issues?

She's like the single most feminine woman in SM (at least in appearance).

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Where is this from? Why have I not seen it in the anime?

>>146420544

TE VN, I think.

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Going to sleep with the wife!

>>146420953

>going to sleep
>not fucking her senseless with multiple creampies until you both pass out from exhaustion

Plebians!

in b4 BR shitposts

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>>146418088
One of best Wessis. Another Eurofront better have some stuff on her. The thought of milf Kiirke is too delicious not to contemplate.

>>146418088

She's cute, but I liked my traumatized commies more.

>>146415567
Would the Soviet Union have been interested in Africa?

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>>146373172

I made this in this thread >>146384730

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>>146422739

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>>146422739

>>146422739
>>146423701
Made for headpats.

>>146414974
Give her to Ketchup

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>>146423701
>>146423759
Yeah, I forgot one crucial detail.

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>>146411869

Katia route is default because the default end is a bad end where the protagonist becomes the villain in a series set 18 years later. Neither an Iris route nor a Lise route nor a Beatrix route would result in Theo becoming a crazy Beta worshiping lunatic hellbent on scourging humanity from the universe.

I want to slap Anett on the ass just to see what happens.

>>146422260

The Soviets were very intersted in Africa but the power dynamic was different because the US considered itself morally opposed to colonialism and did not provide support (materiel or political) to the imperial powers, so the cold war dynamic wasn't the same as the rest of the world. So, what happened instead was the colonial powers would slaughter black commies until they ran out of money, and then they'd go home.

(Except for France, who figured out they could operate their colonies as franchises, and just murder the franchisee/warlord when he stepped out of line)

>>146423934
But Katia doesn't even win Theo.

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Is this a good wife material?

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>>146425521
Yes. Especially when Irisdina dresses that way just for you in the bedroom.

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>>146424953

That doesn't contradict anything I said. The Katia route is really a stealth Iris route, but it is also the default route.

>>146425590
That's a badly drawn Iris.

>>146425590
What's happening? Is cockroach trying to rape her?

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>>146425521
Is this good wife material?

>>146426042
I want to be dominated by her, that's for sure.

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>>146426294
Beatrix is for dominating and making sure she stays a stay at home wife.

>>146426328
That's Lead Belly.
>you will never give her a chlorofom rag to the face, take her home and brainwash her into becoming a perfect wife

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>>146424510
One of the most beautiful souls to ever exist.

>>146426617
Should've bullied the ginger slut instead.

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>>146426481
I'd rather kidnap Lise and counter-brainwash her into thinking she's my daughter and that its perfectly normal for her to be in California where she grew up, and her favorite past time is surfing and beach volleyball and theres no ketchup in the fridge. Ever.

Would you pull Iris' braids.

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>>146426657
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>146426752
I'd pull on her heartstrings.

I just finished Muv-Luv Alternnative VN. So which VN should I read next? I have no clue of the chronological order to be frank

I just checked the opening for TDA. Is TDA's story set prior to Japan's coup de'tat instigated by Capt. Sagiri? Because I'm sure I saw Major Walken and Sgt. Marimo being featured in the opening so I assume TDA happens before Alternative

>>146427716
After Unlimited and operation Babylon.

>>146427716
no, it's from the unlimited branch, of course they are alive.

How do you make Iris cry so you could comfort her?

>>146426851
Why is she so damn kissable?

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>>146427785

let her walk in on me and Beatrix

>>146427448
Read Alternative Chronicles Vol 1 & 2.

>>146427773
>no, it's from the unlimited branch, of course they are alive.

So Alternative's story is just another version of retelling the Unlimited's story?

>>146428618

Doesn't it go Extra -> Unlimited -> Alternative in the original trilogy?

>>146428618
You get it only now?

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>>146427855
Because she wants to love!

>>146428618
Well it's not so much a retelling as the finale that breaks the cycle doomed to ever repeat. It was this incarnation that, finally, things were going to change.

Does anyone have any idea why my TDA does not show english subs? I tried copying afhook.rpo to the plugin folder and the afhook.pkg in the main game folder.

>>146429120
So the story of TDA took place after Alternative V right?

>>146429852
Yes.

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>>146429852
Yes. Though no one really knew that's what would happen if the G-bombs were used en masse. It's very important to bear that in mind - and many, even most nations on Earth had put support behind Alt V.

On a side note, America is sort of divided, with there being plenty of Alt IV supporters as well.

But essentially yes, TDA is the after-story of Unlimited. Not all is lost, but goddamn does things look bleak. But yes, the escape ship did make it, so humanity will survive regardless. That was the plan with Alt V really, if things still didn't go their way even with mass G-bomb usage. It was meant to be a fight to the death, after ensuring mankind would survive.

Yuuko is a filthy slut.

>>146429852
>>146429873

So TE eclipse and its VN take place way before Alternative IV's completion and Alternative V right?

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>>146431186
No, TE takes place literally the year before. Not going to spoil, but TE's ending is around the same time as Alternative in the trilogy (that's probably spoiling too much as it is, no it's not part of Unlimited's timeline). The VN obviously, the anime only ended about half to 2/3 through.

>>146431306
>No, TE takes place literally the year before. Not going to spoil, but TE's ending is around the same time as Alternative in the trilogy.

Weird thing is why isn't the Takamura family mentioned in the Alternative VN? If I'm not wrong 5 Imperial families were mentioned and there are no reference towards Takamura family being a huge influence towards the Imperial Government.

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>>146432014

Boring answer: Because they didn't plan that far ahead.

Also, I thought she was important, but not THAT important.

>>146420544
Target G; JP wiki designates it as "superheavy laser-class". It glows blue, and thus we can reasonably conclude that it's the Evensk hive reactor modified to be mobile.

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>>146432014
Well as far as ranking goes, they're a more minor family, retainers really, to a damiyo (one of the five aforementioned five families, Takamuras wear the yellow). They are a family very prominent in weapons R&D however, and Yui's mother is from a more prestigious family, hence what I think is her aunt Lady Kyoko, who has the blue uniform rank.

Also, there's the bit that TE was started well after Trilogy was done, so of course it's hard to add things retroactively. I wouldn't say the Takamuras are a HUGE influence on the Imperial government (which mind you, the government is still also a democracy, with a parliament and regular army and the works), but they are not unimportant either. Yui's father was one of the people involved in getting Japan F-4s, and making the muh speshul Imperial Guard version, along with "Uncle" Iwaya (he's actually regular Army, not aristocratic at all, but he's helped raise Yui as his own, since he was close to her father), and then worked on development programs since then.

>>146427448
Read the TSFiA shorts for Operation Sledgehammer-related ones and Continental Fighters.
Also the A-10 related issues.

>>146432329
So after Lady Kyoko is Kobuyin Yuuhi?

>her aunt Lady Kyoko, who has the blue uniform rank.
Misturugi Meiya and her sister both are supposed to be blue uniform rank, thus inheriting the Blue Takemikazuchi?

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>>146432630
I have no idea if Lady Kyoko and the Takamuras are vassals of Yuuhi's family to be honest.

And the Blue Take isn't the special one off one, the purple one for the Shogun is.

Why so interested in the Royals anyways? They suck.

>>146433403
>Why so interested in the Royals anyways? They suck

Meiya and Tsukuyomi are decent piots though

>>146433874
Okay, but the world is filled with decent pilots.

>>146428233
Now why would we be celebrating that? Kiirke AND Anette are wonderful!

>>146426042
Best in the world.

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>>146427785
Tell her she killed Jurgen.

She'll be stony faced there, but she'll cry hard later at night.

>>146427855
Because only kisses will make her better at this point.

>>146437174
But would she let me comfort her after that?
I'm afraid she'd just slap me.

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>>146437325
Older Anette just needs a damn hug at this point. Do you want her to turn to drugs and clubbing in London to escape the pain?

>>146437695
I meant Irisdina, but Anett deserves to be comforted too.

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Poland stronk

What is "Grand Ocean Collapse"? Is it the aftermath of Alternative V?

>>146437695
I want to play with Inghild's hair.

>>146438813
Can't you read? Its explained in game.

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>>146439427
>Can't you read?
most people can't

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What's her smile status, /a/?

>>146440472
I want to rape her.

>>146440472
It wasn't protected like it should have been.

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>>146440472
needs to be protected.

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I want to give Lise some flowers she could stick in her hair

>>146441558
is this even cute? I wan more from Irisdina

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>>146442861
Irisdina only gets smug when her cards come into her hands.

>>146442924
>>146441558
Now kiss.

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>>146443409
The best duo.

I'm alittle confused about Imperial Goverment of Japan.

There is mention of Empreor still existing but I can't recall him ever being reffered in any other work. Only person people ever treat as highest spiritual leader and symbol of the state of Japan is Shogun.

So what is the deal with that? People just forgot about that Emperor exists or waht?

>>146444709
meiji restoration never took place.

>>146444709
The Emperor in ML is even more powerless and irrelevant than in RL. But the whole thing is because of a retcon, they originally wanted to make the Emperor relevant, and that meant making Yuuhi the empress. But they got cold feet, and decided to go with the Shogunate instead, which creates some gaps in the writing.

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Remember anons, they're colour coded for you convenience.

Vol VI BD torrent when?

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>>146442492
Flowers are a good look for her.

It's pretty amusing that the UK is still part of the EU in Alternative, while in the real world it's out.

Also, it sucks shit that Theo survived the fall of the eastern front. Kouki has gotten soft. He forgets that the Muv-Luv mantra is EVERYONE DIES, NO EXCEPTIONS.

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>>146446914
>It's pretty amusing that the UK is still part of the EU in Alternative, while in the real world it's out.
Bro

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>>146446914
He has to live, he has people to kill, plans to ruin and BETAs to worship.

>>146432307
Wouldnt that make the superheavy laser-class very expensive to produce if it needs hive reactors to work?

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>>146446914
Theo had to survive in order to become the Master and ruin everyone's good time later. Come to think of it he's ruining everyone's fun already. Theo isn't very nice to be around. Except for Lise.

>>146447136
Superior-kun just made a proof of concept. Its unlikely that he would have wasted his quota of G-elements on more than a couple of them.

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>>146446914
Not counting TDA Takeru, does Theo have the highest (human) killcount of all the different heroes?

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>>146447244
>Except for Lise.

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>>146447346
Touché. Well at least it was fun while it lasted.

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>>146447468
>SOL lasted for 3 (three) minutes

>>146447295
Look, whether you are sympathetic to her or not, Theo was justified in killing Beatrix.

>>146447569
>Summary execution of a combatant that the perpetrator blamed all his woes on who by was unarmed at that point before death
>justified
But SM isn't real, so why should you care?

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>>146447569

Theo was never justified in fighting her to begin with.

>>146447559
Iris should learn to sleep with one eye open
because I really would love to braid her hair while she sleeps

>>146447244

If Theo was just in TDA, I would be fine with it. My personal headcanon for TDA is that it's noncanon and fanserivce. The original ending of Unlimited is something out of a real science fiction novel/1980's Japanese aesthetic toward space, especially the manga version. TDA's tone is marketly different from that in a way Alternative isn't.

But no, Theo is in the (canon) future of TE, the worst muvluv spinoff. I constantly see TE as that kid born out of wedlock you are stuck having to take care of.

>>146447700
The truth is, he wanted to be something he wasn't.

A hero.

So wait Iris and Theo are a couple now what

I thought they just had hate sex once before they were going to die, what happened

>>146447700
She was a threat to his friends/family. Forget about politics, it was personal.

>>146447295
It depends on how many RFL and Allegiance Pilots Yuuya took down and how many Werewolves survived. In the Anime Theo certainly blows Yuuya out of the Water, but how large is the difference in the LN/VN(well only the TE VN since Martyrs isn't out yet)?.

>>146447994
The fuck are you talking about? The different routes?

>>146447994
>So wait Iris and Theo are a couple now what
What?
>I thought they just had hate sex once before they were going to die, what happened
Double what?

>>146448016
>his friends
>"friends"
>family
But she saved his remaining family. Lise's shooter is Theo.

>>146447962
>I'm here because you can't accept what you've done. It broke you. You needed someone to blame, so you cast it on me

Rape Tama

>>146447559
>just a tiny excerpt of what could have been
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sJkwBo2T4w

Funny things is even the VN is cut down from the original.

>>146448245
SF is not out yet.

>>146448064
Zero Werewolves survived

thanks moderates

>>146448291
I meant, how many surrendered. Suzy doing her thing and Heim being incompetent are a given.

>>146448270
Anett should never stop talking, her voice makes me hard.

>>146448064
Weren't there only a few RLF pilots? I thought most of the TSFs were controlled by AI with a scattering of RLF acting as leads.

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>>146448234
>Your friends, dead. The world on fire. And you, alone. You're a failure. Finally, something we have in common.

>>146448378
A dozen or so pilots and several dozen TSFs on Auto-pilot is what I reckoned, but no Idea, haven't played the TE VN yet.

Gretel is good-for-nothing ugly failure of a commissar

>>146448203
And yet Beatrix had so much blood on her hands. I think someone once said that she'd personally killed more people than anyone else in SM.

>>146448710
Great, that doesn't address what I said, though. Theo used civilians as cover as much as she did. The difference is she admitted it.

Who's the real monster?

>>146448503
I love it how even the loading screen quotes can also work
>You cannot understand, nor do you want to

>>146447295
Takeru still exists after Operation Babylon? Damn, it seems that I'm missing a lot.

>>146447938
>Theo is in the (canon) future of TE, the worst muvluv spinoff.

I believe what made Theo master is the fact that Beatrix despite dead still haunts him or it could be that he had encountered something tragic and then went full tilt which eventually led him to a change of heart.

>>146438134
Whar my girl Sylwia at?

Axmann is for

>>146448976
summary execution

>>146448960
Walther, calm down pls.

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>>146448954
>The only villain here is you, Theodore. There's only you.

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>>146448976

>>146448769
Theo was lured into area were civilians were living. It wasn't his choice of a battlefield. He knew that other will try to force him to cover civilians and create opening to kill him. So all he could do is at that point is to try end this fight quickly before they cause to much collateral damage.

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>>146448710

you're changing the subject. the fact is, Beatrix saved Lise.

>>146449105
>It wasn't his choice of a battlefield.
It's a city. Urban combat involves civilians. If he didn't want to factor in collateral he would not have got in his TSF and fight in Berlin.

I'll say again, Beatrix admitted she used them as cover, Theo did not.

>>146448508
>A dozen or so pilots
Those pilots weren't even military trained. They are all just a bunch of volunteery insurgence and overbearing extremist

>>146449087
>What? Who's there?
>One of your victims. The one who was just followin' orders.
>You gave us no choice.
>There was always a choice. You just fucked it up.

>>146408805
Did the MLA manga end?

>>146449174
>saved
While not untrue a bit generous a term. The damage was already done, and Beatrix ultimately was only interested in how Lise's talents could serve the Werewolf battalion, she wouldn't have lifted a finger otherwise.

But you're right the point is Beatrix did more for Lise than anyone, and Lise herself admits it. Hence the very conflicted loyalties she has in the LNs between her only remaining family and her comrades or "new family".

Bullying Pham

>>146449174
You call it being grateful for being saved. I call it Stockholm Syndrome.

>>146449729
I think someone who is subjected to torture, rape, and called a prostitute would be grateful for aforementioned treatments being ceased.

>>146449105
>>146449258
Beatrix lead them into civilian residential areas, apartment districts where there was a high population concentration.

It was an extremely pragmatic and ruthless move borne from desperation. If she'd fought in an abandoned area, Heim would have killed her with his artillery and bombs. Still, she shows a rather callous view towards all the people who were dying around her when Theo accuses her of using human shields.

>>146449818
>called a prostitute
So, being told the truth?
>rape
She enjoyed it because she's like Irisdina.

>>146449933
In the same sense you enjoy living in the most dysgenic country on planet earth.

>>146449970
Stop replying to him

>>146449888
>Beatrix lead them into civilian residential areas, apartment districts where there was a high population concentration.
Not when they decided to bait the Werewolves with Heim, and not when the rebels moved into Berlin. In both cases the Rebels accepted the collateral damage as necessary, whether you like it or not.

>>146448958
I don't think Theo really cares about Beatrix. He had a total of three interactions with her throughout SM, and only one of them where they actually had a back and forth. Beatrix spends much more time antagonizing and talking to Iris than Theo.

>>146450289
>Theo didn't have an erection when Yukarin gently asked if he needed anything
He's fucking gay

On which girl would you cum without her permission?

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>>146448958
He's gonna have a lot more than just Beatrix's memory haunting him. And considering how things turn out its only gonna get worse with time.

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>>146450392
Beatrix.

>>146450391
We all did, but Theo probably didn't.

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>>146450523
>smug ghost of imouto past.jpg
Don't remind me of all the goring.

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>>146450392
Stop right their criminal scum.

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>>146450523
>smug ghost of imouto past.jpg
I PUSH MY FINGERS INTO MY


EYYYYYEEESSSSSS