Kaiji

Women don't like to gamble. both osts are pretty gud. No.

I also just finished watching and the only thing I don't get is why the black suits allowed kaiji to literally rip the stars off of those other 2 "friends" of his. Also Why was Kaiji retarded enough to not expect something when Hyoudou kept his hand in the box longer.

>>146295759
MIRAI WA BOKURA NO TE NO NAKA INTENSIFIES

>>146295759

>It was pretty fucking good

Interesting

How did you feel about the "Watch CGI pachinko balls roll down a tray for some-20 episodes" part?

btw, thanks 4chan, you're really a giant piece of turd, archiving MY thread of Kaiji. Like seriously, what the fuck was the problem? It had replies, correct section and everything. btw, kaiji best anime. It's good for hundred of reasons, there isn't the need to list them.

>>146296095
yeah but the conclusion repays EVERYTHING. Like, he did something for every fucking piece of the bog

>>146296095
It was actually alot more fun than watch them cross the bridge and scream and cry for 5+ episodes. You don't like watching balls roll?

>>146295759
Oh and for S1 I watched the CR subs and they were trash. I miss fansubs.

>>146295759
Do you want to know a funny thing? The dubber of Kaiji sings the first OP, Tonegawas sings the 2nd.

How far is the poker arc manga yet?

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S3 never.

>>146295759
Did you just marathon the whole two seasons, you demented fuck?
You posted the same thing a few hours ago.

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>>146296095
>Watch CGI pachinko balls roll down a tray for some-20 episodes
It was the best.

Wow I just finished S1+2 with my brother last night. Small world OP.

>>146296439
That definitely wasn't me. But I did watch finish the whole thing over the past 5 or so days.

>>146296537
I guess I thought everyone had already seen Kaiji.

>>146296197
>>146296223
>>146296475

Get help anons

please

This level masochism/stockholm syndrome or whatever the fuck you have is not healthy

Akagi or Kaiji

>>146296701
Kaiji. Akagi is about a single game and the main character is too unnatural. Still good imo. Honorable mention go to Zero btw (another work of Fukumoto)

>>146296671
go back watch death note, fag.
you're here only to shitpost so gtfo

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>>146296671

>>146296095
>Watch CGI pachinko balls roll down a tray for some-20 episodes
Much better than I expected

>>146297139
What the fuck

why does fukumoto draw those noses

>>146297139

ZAWA ZAWA

>>146296095
I honestly found it to be the most intense thing ever. Really. I was thinking "this is not for people with weak hearts".

>>146297139

kek

>>146295956
>Also Why was Kaiji retarded enough to not expect something when Hyoudou kept his hand in the box longer.
I think it was pretty well explained, even though I disagreed with it.

>>146295759
>Why are there zero women in this anime?
Because it would dillute the message of the anime. This is a pure "manime" it focuses on hyperagency, focusing on what one can do by themselves to achieve what they want, which is a masculine trait. Everyone is ugly too for purity of essence. That or the mangaka can't draw women ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Seriously though, I absolutely praise the fact it has no women and would hope more people have the balls to believe their work is good enough to not need fanservice. I do love fanservice but BALLS man!

>>146296095
You havent really watched Kaiji unless you watched the Bog weekly. Pussies marathoning 6 episodes at a time dont know true ZETSUBO

>>146295759
There is a woman in the Kaiji manga. His girlfriend.

>>146297394
anon is gay lolz

>>146297025
Nah seriously, the Bog arc was probably my favorite part of the series. I had a big smile on my face during the whole thing. The narrator was great, everyone's insane reactions, and the slow reveal of everything about the game and Kaiji's plans.

Best narrator coming through.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDj1KTha8go

>>146297563
"I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one"

Sell me on this show I like gambling stuff

>>146297792
It has gambling stuff.

>>146297792
It has gambling stuff.

>>146297792
watch it
right now
drop whatever the fuck you're doing
watch the first few episodes

This anime almost gave me a heart attack

>>146297792
It has gambling stuff.

>>146297792
>I like gambling stuff
>It has gambling stuff
How are you not already sold?

The bog was awesome. I never thought it was possible to cheat that hard at something, but it happened.

>>146297792
Seriously though I have never seen /a/ talk about Kaiji as if it's less than 7/10. If I haven't seen it myself and loved it I would've thought it was overhyped. It's not perfect but why would you want me to spoil anything? Just fucking go watch it, retard.

>>146297864
>>146297877
>>146297934
>>146297996
I like shows that actually have a good point/make you think. I'm not the type of person to watch something like InitialD just because I like cars. Sorry if that is confusing.
Like are the characters good? The plot interesting and unique?

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>ZAWA

>>146298167
You are the worst kind of person.

You're asking in a Kaiji thread where every post is by fans of the show praising it but for some reason that's still not enough for you and you need to specifically ask us if you would like it as if we know anything about you.
How fucking hard is it to watch an episode and form your own fucking opinion? Is your time really so valuable?

>>146298338
ANDOOOOOOU

>>146298167
>Like are the characters good? The plot interesting and unique?
I dont know why you're asking that question in a thread full of people fellating it. You know what answer you're going to get. You could have watched half the first episode in the time you spent waiting for answers

>>146298397
Yeah it was a silly question. I just like to have stuff spoiled really and have a good picture of what I'm getting into.
Also there are worse people out there than ones who say stupid things on the internet.

Fuck, I miss kaiji's voice.

>>146298474
Good characters. They gamble. A guy comes on screen once in awhile and says stuff that makes you think. You watch it and piss your pants from gamblers angst. That's it. It's gambling stuff.

>>146296095
Marathoning it probably wouldn't be too bad. It got boring pretty fast having to wait a week for yet another episode of nothing happening.

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>>146298479
Watch One Outs if you havent. Psychological baseball anime acts like Akagi and is voiced by Kaiji

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Do Nips really think running a casino is a bad job?

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>>146296615

it's summer, anon

>>146298690
It could be a morality thing.

>>146298690
No clue. Maybe it's because of their gambling laws and such.

>>146298690
They're very uncreative when it comes to employment, they think blue collar is best collar.

>>>/wsg/1255607
This fucking scene killed my sides.

>>146298949
Or white collar.

>>146298985
You caught me anon, I don't actually understand collar dynamics. I meant office jobs.

QUESTION: I started reading the manga (the one where he's on the rock paper scissors ship, that's the first one right?) and it was ok but not that great. Should I watch the anime instead? Does the manga get better?

>>146299203
Anime is pretty much the same

>>146299121
It's okay. I remember it by thinking a dress shirt is white, and people in offices wear shirts, and the working class guy could be wearing a blue jumpsuit, and remember it that way.

>>146299203
It depends on what you are to. If music and movement is more you then the anime might be a better fit.

>>146299203
IMHO watch the anime then continue with the manga where the anime left off. That's what I did.

Most of the time girls in anime are just eye candy or used for forced romance, or given super powers to be able to keep up with men, but kaiji isn't a super power battle anime so they really had no place.

A noticeable female presence would only diminish Kaiji's manliness.

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>>146297139
Not sure if ZAWA or not

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Andou and Furuhata are beautiful angels who did nothing wrong.
If Kaiji hadn't scammed his way out of the nude room then he would have been sent to the labour camp sooner, bypassing all of the debt, trauma, and loss of body parts from the rest of S1.

>>146295759
Fuck, is everyone suddenly watching Kaiji now? I started marathoning it a few days ago after a couple years of not finishing it and forgetting where I was.

>about to finish Season 1
>get so used to Kaiji overcoming the odds and grasping victory
>season finale with the box gamble and Kaiji's fingers on the line
>other guy draws the winning piece
>immediately close video
I-I'm scared.

>>146298690
Compared to working in actual finance and investing, yes.

It's like saying you work at a Trump Casino in the South compared to your classmates who work at Goldman Sachs.

>>146299376
What chapter of the manga does the anime end at?

>>146300076
>Kaiji in a battle where a loss doesnt mean his certain death
You should know how this goes

>>146300033
If Kaiji had just taken the money he got for winning e-card, he would have pretty much been in the same place as he was at the end of S2, minus being tricked into Mahjong later on

>>146300226
Look for Tobaku Datenroku Kaiji. The manga always has different names for each story bit and this is the one right after the Bog story.

>>146300306
If Kaiji was the kind of person who could just call it a day like that he wouldnt have gotten in trouble at all

>>146300195
I was listening to an MIT economics lecture on the history of Poker and how much it actually shaped current economics. I agree "real" economists condescend gamblers but that's just their ignorance.

>>146298689
Anon, let me tell you something
Akagi is voiced by Kaiji

>>146300479
Economics is mostly just empty justifications for what governments already want to do. There's no real study.

>>146300479
Would you mind explaining that a bit more? Or linking something relating to this

>>146297587
It was terrible.

>shit is about to go down
>Nutbladder takes two weeks to sub the next episode

>>146300834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZZ4y5GfdOU

>>146300799
Macroeconomics, yes. Microeconomics are actually testable and scientific.

>>146300226
After part 2 I believe. Part 3 is mahjong and 4 a sick game. 5 is poker and the one we are currently at.

>>146300195
They're interns though. By their shitty attitude they may not even be kept on. He's already making cash though.

>>146300834
I linked it but desu it's pretty boring so let me give you the tl;dr

Gambling houses invented IOU's, some stock market techniques and in general did a lot of the mathematical groundwork for statistical modeling.

>>146300076
>I'm scared
I found the scene where he gets needles driven under his nails in season 2 a lot worse.

>>146300033

You miss the point of Kaiji. He is a one step forward, two steps back man. Every time he wins, he turns around to fail even harder, only to need a bigger more miraculous win to escape the consequences, only to fail even more spectacularly. When he loses he loses and when he wins he still loses. If he wins a dollar, he loses ten the next roll. He can tilt an entire fucking building, and the next day will still be a penniless greaser.

>>146301109
Also poker was the first game made from the bottom up with a mathematical basis. The hand rankings were ordered by the odds to get them, etc. Chess and like all games before it were just made intuitively but poker was the first game to have mathematical proof that it is balanced.

>>146301207
>"Why does this happen to me!?"
keked audibly

>>146301273
Do rules like wild cards make it unbalanced?

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>>146301204
jesus fucking christ

>>146301407
Well it depends on the particular rules. Poker was also unique for the time in that it freely experimented with the rules, unlike chess and such that absolutely refused to change. Wildcards sounds to me like something that would indeed unbalance the game as they would make highly unlikely hands far more likely to get. Getting 4 cards of a royal flush is hard enough, but also getting the 5th is exponentially more unlikely, so having a wildcard instead is very cheaty.

If you're playing home games with custom rules I would suggest not risking much money until you research the particular rules in question and the consequences.

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DAGA SHIKASHI

>>146301207
Yeah. I'm on the edge of my seat for One Poker Hen because I know something is going to get fucked but it just hasn't happened yet. It's like a reverse form of psychological torture from the usual.

>>146301676
Btw Kazuya is a fucking boss and drops lots of truth bombs. I find myself agreeing with him more often than Kaiji.

>>146301609
What about having face up draw cards? Does this simply change the game within the game (i think I know what they have) or does it also expose the mathematical probabilities?

>>146302204
Yes that wouldn't affect probability, that would only increase the available information. I'm not sure if that would increase or decrease skill edge (whether it makes the game harder or easier) but it wouldn't unbalance it.

What i like most about season one is how Kaiji had already won, got rich to boot, and fucked up big time by betting that amount again to someone far above your league because feels.
He was pushing his luck way too hard.

>>146302963
>got rich to boot,
Wouldn't he have still be in debt? He only won 20 million yen. Wasn't he that much in debt to begin with? And he had promised 10 million to that guys wife as well as the guys he was playing against taking like 7 million or so out for a fee or some shit. Even if he didn't pay the wife, he was still in debt.

>>146303328
>Wasn't he that much in debt to begin with?
No, he had 6.68 million yen in debt
>as well as the guys he was playing against taking like 7 million or so out for a fee or some shit.
That's his debt

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>>146298689

>>146303567
Yeah, the one outs guy (forgot name) is a little more human but otherwise 99% exactly Akagi.

I would love a second season of One Outs

>>146303542
Was that it? Tonegawa saying it'd be 40 years before he payed it off always made me think it was a lot higher. Plus I thought Kaiji accumulated an even larger debt from borrowing a large sum during the rock paper scissors arc. I just forgot the numbers.

So who would win between Kaiji and Akagi in these 3 scenarios and why? Both are betting their lives.


>E-card
>Mahjong
>UNO

>>146305106
Akagi is overpowered as fuck, so he would probably win all of 'em. The only hope Kaiji has is convincing Akagi to lose on purpose since Kaiji wants to live and Akagi wants to die (fabulously, meaning Kaiji would at least have to put up a good fight).

>>146305301
I dunno Kaiji is pretty damn OP as well when his life depends on it. It's pretty interesting how they are complete opposites in the sense that Kaiji wins to live whereas Akagi lives to win.

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>>146305106
Akagi wins all of them, especially Mahjong. Closest match will probably be E-Card.

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I finished Kaiji about a week ago and wanted to jump into Akagi. But I know fucking nothing about Mahjong so the first 2 episode went over my head. I haven't bothered watching more.

>>146305758
Yeah I feel ya, it all sounds like gibberish. In the end I still haven't learned all the rules despite watching all of Akagi and reading the mahjong part of Kaiji manga.

BUT! (DAGA SHIKASHI!) It is assumed you don't know mahjong and it tries to explain anything that is very relevant, so I did learn more than I ever thought I would and I did enjoy Akagi/Kaiji playing mahjong. Its actually somewhat similar to poker, you get dealt a hand then you draw cards to improve your hand. Just replace cards with rectangles, straights are 3 in a row instead of 5 and instead of making one hand out of 5 cards its like making a combo of 3-5 hands out of 14 rectangles.

>>146306055
Also you don't win money based on how much you bet but your hand strength is worth a set amount.

>>146305758
You should keep watching. I finished Akagi and still don't know shit about mahjong but it was fun. I just looked at it like poker/dominoes hybrid game. I don't know what the hands should be, but I can understand building a hand and waiting for a specific tile.

>>146298689

You know he's also voiced by Akagi right? Akagi, Kaiji, and Toa all have the same seiyuu.

>>146300195
But that would mean your classmates are jews, so what would you care?

>>146306261
>>146306055
I might just watch it anyway then since it does look sort of similar to poker. So maybe if I just go through with that mindset I'll enjoy it. I've kind of been on a binge with these psychological/thriller series of late and again, even though I know nothing about baseball I might also try watching One Outs.

>>146305758
I finished watching Akagi just a little while ago, and while I think I understand the basics of the game now (4 tiles of each suit=good) the majority of it still flies right over my head. Just enjoy if for the mind games and over the top reaction faces.

>>146306688
Don't worry, baseball is a lot easier to understand than Mahjong.

>>146306688
I knew nothing of baseball either, and Japanese baseball seems even more convoluted, but I did also enjoy One Outs.

Why don't we have weekly kaiji threads again?

>the viewer knows the details of Kaiji's plan
>it's not gonna work
>the viewer doesn't know the details of Kaiji's plan
>it's gonna work

I don't get it, lads. How can something so reliant on tension be this formulaic?

>>146303784
Me too, though late in the manga it got absurdly wordy if I remember correctly

>>146307128
Because most weeks there's fuck all new content to discuss. Regular threads will just devolve into tripfags, memes and shitposting

>>146307440
>>the viewer knows the details of Kaiji's plan
>>it's not gonna work

But that's not true.

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>>146300076
:^)

>>146308247
It is, you see it most strongly in the Tissue box game. When doesnt it work like that?

>>146295759
>Why are there zero women in this anime?

Women make stories worse, on average

>>146296386
it's pachislot

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>>146308290

>>146308361
Did he fully explain the plan in the rock paper scissors arc when he only had like 3 scissors in his hand or was that just a "follow my lead" deal? I remember him explaining to search for a specific type of player for him to face. The "holding all of one type of card" plan backfired though.

QUICKLY ANONS.

You are on the ship of hope playing limited rock paper scissors. What is your strategy to win?

>>146303933
>borrowing a large sum during the rock paper scissors

An additional ten million at an exorbitant rate of interest, alone it would be like 14 mil by the time he got off the boat. So yeah about 20 mil total debt.

>>146309969
Cash out however much I can right away and call my parents to wrangle up the remainder of my debt.

>>146310270
Use money/star chips to hire a spy to see the guy's cards and he gives me hand signals depending on which one it is.

>>146310961
>>146310270
fuck meant to reply to >>146309969

>>146309969
Give my cards to people who have run out of them.

I wish volumes 5-9 of One Outs were scanlated, for that matter. I know the anime covers them, but still.

>YFW HE TILTED THE ENTIRE GOD DAMN BUILDING

>>146313244
Why doesn't anyone ever post the live action babe they got to say this at the end of the episode?

>>146295956
>Why was Kaiji retarded enough to not expect something when Hyoudou kept his hand in the box longer.
He's a fucking retard and fell for the I WAS BORN UNDER A LUCKY STAR ruse.

>>146314185
This. Kaiji is smart as fuck but lacked perspective and was simply way too naive for his own good. He's obviously getting better slowly but surely though.

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How many more body parts need to be cut off for Kaiji to learn that gambling sin't worth it and he should get an honest job?

Also how many more years until Akagi and Washizu finish playing their current game?

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>>146303567

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIkDSH5s9VI
>FAKKU
What did he mean by this?

>>146318530
is the movie worth watching?

>>146318808
i dunno i never watched it.

>>146295759
>Why are there zero women in this anime?
would get in the way of brohmances and brohlove
that plus women have other addictions

>>146308290
Whatever the opposite of comfy is, it's this.