>tfw this fucking waifubait trash is holding back Subaru from

That's the point

>>146169133
Explain? I thought she was keeping him from giving up.

>>146169242
>giving up isn't character development
(you)

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>delicious
>trash
pick one

Good thing that she ded then

Rem > your waifu

stay mad cuck numale

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>>146169340
Mine isn't a cuck or a vegetable though.

>>146169133
The only way Subaru could develop is if he stopped being an embarrassing autist, and nothing can change that.

>>146169265
I said that was development since he was the type of person to give up, or you're saying not giving up is NOT character development.

>>146169444
>he was willing to give up and knew his efforts was wasted at the time

Yeah, could have been avoided

>>146169133
Only thing that nerd Subaru is good for is temporary amusing best girl Rem anyway.

When Subaru will stop being autistic?

>>146169539
As soon as you do.

>>146169242
More like she made him regress as a character back to how he was previously despite all the new experiences he's built up since and that entire rant showing you how much he's suffered in the journey all to be tossed out and reverted back to his faggy hero self again because of such a poor unconvincing speech by rem.

Subaru is holding back Subaru from developing because he's a useless moron. 'Waifubait' has moved things forward.
>>146169265
Giving up is his default so not really.

>>146169601
I will stop being autistic when you will stop sucking dicks, edgy faggot

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Why is Emilia so shit? She ruined the whole episode!

>>146169645
>Giving up is his default so not really.

That would have been the first time in the show the guy said fuck it so stop trying to act smart

>>146169686
It's funny how Rem doesn't even give 2 fucks about her sister now despite her being in possible danger.

Her character became a joke

>>146169615
That's not regression. Regressing is going right back where he's started, which is being a quitter. His rant was bitching about himself and all Rem did was tell him similar optimistic stuff he told her to get her out of her funk.

Subaru fucks himself over.

>>146169848
>regression is always to a specific time

>>146169797
From the first few seconds of the show, he's established as a natural quitter. It's also hinted throughout. Sorry you feel dumb but that's your fault

>>146169848
>Regressing is going right back where he's started
Don't you mean going back to zero

>>146169931
>he's a natural quitter

Talk facts here faggot, the guys has been desperately not giving up the entire show helping and getting involved despite being told to back off at times.

He's been trying to be a hero through the whole thing.

>>146169894
It's to a specific state, greenmemer.

>>146170005
Arbitrary

>>146169848
>Regressing is going right back where he's started

Wrong

>The process or an instance of regressing, as to a less perfect or less developed state.

>>146170002
Why Subaru wants to be a hero?
I mean he doesn't have some DEEP reason to bacome a hero like Emiya Shirou

>>146170087
Retard.
>>146170120
>as to a less perfect or less developed state
So right back where he started. Thanks for backing me up, senpai.

>>146170002
His natural inclination is to quit. Your evidence to the contrary is him acting retarded and faking it up, and getting nowhere.

>>146169834
What makes you think she doesn't care?

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>>146169686
She wasn't even in this episode you asshole.

>>146170241
>less perfect
>as in not completely 0 from the beginning

No one backed up shit

>>146170241
No, because that is an arbitrarily chosen previous state.

Check your confirmation bias. He could regress less. He could regress further, and as a result we would become aware of character development from before the first episode. All you're doing is suggesting that this opportunity has been squandered.

>>146170356
>What makes you think she doesn't care
>has never even mentioned her
>when told she can't come she ONLY thought about not being with Subaru and not that she wants to help her beloved sis from danger

I mean if her sis weren't there fair enough but that's pretty sick that being told she can't come she didn't even give a lick of a thought that she'll be unable to save her sis herself.

>>146170313
Look if he was truly a natural quitter he would have atleast given up at one time despite all the fucked up scenario's he's been.

You can keep up with your bullshit but matter of fact before that rem talk he hasn't given up in the show.

>>146169615
Except he used the experience he gained.

>>146170491
Don't discuss the waifubait.

>>146171405
Which he's been doing from the start.

Talking about his actual character development here.

>>146169133
No. Emilia kept him from developing. Rem's confession causes him to develop

>>146171805
He dropped most of his self entitled pity begging and depreciating jokes.

>>146170373
Newfag, that's a meme where worst girl complaints about best girl while doing that pose.

It comes from moe shows.

>>146172017
You don't believe this bullshit, Do you?

>>146172768
No, seriously. Emilia remained Suvaru's drive for everything and led to him utterly just giving up. Rem confessing her love literally leads to Subaru becoming a war hero. The boost to his self confidence made him realize that fucking Emilia isn't the end goal here, instead he needs to man the fuck up and do something. Which is what he does. Rem served as Subaru's catalyst

>>146172933
Anon please.
What would have happened if the whale defeated them many times even after the confession?

Rem did nothing just suck his dick.

>>146173117
Keyword IF
Rem's motivation helped subaru to find a way that worked. Don't bring IF into this just because Emilia is a kike

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>>146172933
>made him realize that fucking Emilia isn't the end goal here

But he literally said that the whale shit was a stepping stone to the main goal, which is Emilia and the mansion/town.

He does want to save all his friends too though.

>>146172933
The truth is that what Subaru needed the most was unconditional and irrational trust, something that Rem could provide.

Rem became the basis of his sanity, because at that time there was literally no other way for him to move forward.

>>146173253
I STAAAAYAAAYAAYAAY

>>146170157
because shitty writing for self insert neets

>>146173518
So waifubait, any other person would questioned him.

>>146170615
This is because Subaru had been treating the whole thing like a game and Emilia as some final trophy THAT he would eventually win.

>>146173858
No, her backstory gave her an inferiority complex, and Subaru accidentally made it so Rem considers Subaru "evidence" of her not being worthless. This is because of that conversation she had with Subaru, so when she believes in Subaru she's almost believing in herself. If you don't know, that's a nice feeling.
>>146175905
"that"
top kek

>>146169961
more like he is restarting and going on proper path now.

all of this waifu war shitposters just need to agree with each other that yes, both emillia and Rem are instrumental in subaru's character growth.
although at this moment emillia pretty much done jackshit lol

>>146176432
No, her backstory gave her an inferiority complex, and Subaru accidentally made it so >Rem considers Subaru "evidence" of her not being worthless. This is because of that conversation she had with Subaru, so when she believes in Subaru she's almost believing in herself. If you don't know, that's a nice feeling.


Her backstory means shit, she forgot a life of fears and insecurities in two months of dick sucking.

>>146169834
because she believe in subaru to make things right for her? beside she knows that at her current state she cant do nothing and will end up becoming a burden.

subaru is going there with 20+ mercs and soldiers, not to mention the sword demon wilhelm, and that prick julius who are both stronger than rem anyways.


so your point is?

>>146176447
>More like he's restarting
It's almost like he's going back to zero.

>>146176579
If you look at it from Rem's perspective Subaru pulled off some brave shit and smart shit. That's not that unreasonable especially since she was already mentally unstable.

>>146169275
is that Ram?

>>146169133
But isn't that literally emilia? I'm not saying he should get with rem or some shit, I just don't think she affects his character much at all besides being moral support and keeping him from getting killed, occasionally.

Emilia in the other hand is the person he is illogically and unreasonably obsessed with, even though she's the least competent and the most generic waifubait character ever written.

Maybe if Subaru would try to make his own goals and not just want to be emilias cuckslave, he'd become a better character and person.

For fucks OP, Emilia is the main reason Subaru acts like a sperg autist in the first place. The longer she isn't around the more his sanity returns.

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>>146176741
>The longer she isn't around the more his sanity returns.

>>146176653
It is.
She was capable of murder him due to her suspecting that he is part of the witch cult and now she blindly believes him even when the witch essence grew strong and he know things that only a member of the witch cult would know also she doesn't seems to care about her sister anymore.

>>146176832
I find her obsession with Subaru justifiable due to their weird obsession and her trauma, but I'll admit the sister thing is weird.

>>146176741
Yeah because he encounter her minutes previous meeting Betelgeuse right?

>>146176447
I think pretty much Subaru is the one giving emillia character development, while Rem is the one giving Subaru's

>>146176928
The problem about her trauma is that she forgot it. she went from 0 to 180.

>>146176956
>Yeah because he encounter her minutes previous meeting Betelgeuse right?
And then he just sits there and dies like a fag instead of trying to save anyone else or doing anything at all.

She's not a good influence on him, either accidentally or on purpose.

>>146176928
You dont just throw away years of trauma and your shift your sense of duty after some guy does some brave shit to save your life and punches you in the head.
This aint index unless youre comparing bad writing.

>>146177006
>>146176928
Her character revolved around repentence and self-worth, which she gained from Subaru but denied it regarding her sister. It wasn't holding her sister in a high regard, it was devaluing herself. She valued herself more from Subaru by being of use. Debatable but nonetheless, it was redemption.

>>146177081
I actually now feel like trauma wasn't the proper description. Years of guilt because of a traumatic experience would be more accurate. You also need to remember that she didn't immediately get to this point Rem and Subaru were bonding for how many months before they got called away to the capital. Rem's obession probably had a lot of time to develop.

>>146177081
rem didnt totally throw away her insecurities though, it was even shown in the IF chapter where she is pretty much still as insecure as she is prior to subaru giving her courage.

>>146176741
that and shes more powerful than puck and or equal terms as reinhardt, but got killed on numerous occasions.


Heres a question though, how did clown face know that subaru and emilia would meet? like how did he know her losing her amulet would trigger subaru to help her. That and you're gambling the lives of your major chips to getting to the dragon.

>>146177499
Did you not cover spoilers, or did I just forget something? I don't remember the clown planning anything.

>>146177499
Clownface is actually jesus christ reincarnated. Don't question it.

the problem is that she's such a disgusting doormat without any character whatsoever

I guess anyone with an ounce of spunk would've dominated Subaru in an instant

>>146177499
Rosewaal is willing to do whatever it takes to achieve his goals. But even he needs absolute assurance as he needs to "conveniently" be and not be there to OBSERVE Subaru.

>>146177593
clown man planned subaru working for him because he somehow knew about him being the super seer or something, he Hired Elsa to get the medallion so subaru would help emillia.

>world full of people with crazy powers out the ass
>it takes an autistic weak virgin kid with no power besides getting killed to save them every single time

If some of these characters were even a little competent they could steamroll most of their enemies.

>>146177677
It's not his power. It's how he manipulates the world around him to different ways so the badasses can do their stuff.

>>146170087
>>146170411
No, his character revolves around how people see him. If they expect nothing from him, then he feels like he's nothing. If people acknowledge him (kinda like how Subaru saw himself acknowledged by the twins from the hand-holding in episode 7), then he feels like he matters. Subaru revolves around people. If people expect him to be a hero, he will become a hero (Rem). When he holds a mask to hide his emotions in mansion arc while he was acting all normal and happy, he was actually retracing his steps and paying attention while hiding his fear. The facade breaks down like episode 7 on how he found out how Rem saw him. That is not arbitrary.

>>146177949
That makes quite a bit of sense actually. I figured it was just a guy with an inferiority complex who needed emotional support, but it makes sense that he may just be playing the part that people make up for him.

>>146169442
DELETE THIS

>>146169133
>actually a character helping Subaru develop character
>OP is too retarded to put own pants on

>>146176447
>lol

>>146176432
>top kek

Fuck off.

>>146178763
>>fuck off

you just need to be generic as fuck and original arent ya? faggot

>>146179286
>faggot

It's the current year anon what the fuck.