Gunsmith Cats

Riding Bean is fine. The OVA is okay. The manga is fantastic despite the flaws. Burst never happened.

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>>145837131
God-tier characters, fan service, and artwork. Lots of folks who liked this series and made it popular are probably in their 40's and 50's by now.

However you're right, it had a TERRRIBLE ending, even worse you can tell Kenichi Sonoda has absolute shit taste besides culling blindly from car and gun magazines. The Mustang II at the end of GSC Burst was one of the most disgusting car replacements Rally could have for a '67 GT500. Said car pictured, in real life it is one of the most horrifically ugly cars to come out of the 70s.

Despite his love for the CZ-75 and a couple of other fun, random pistol portrayals, a lot of the weapons he portrayed and how he portrayed them really hurt the series too.

>>145838251
>The Mustang II at the end of GSC Burst was one of the most disgusting car replacements Rally could have for a '67 GT500.
>in real life it is one of the most horrifically ugly cars to come out of the 70s
Then it was perfect for the end of Burst. Another problem I had with the series was that it cribbed a lot of stuff from other things. Rally was actually supposed to be called Larry so people wouldn't know they were hiring a woman à la Remington Steele, and I cannot stress enough how much I hated that mind control drug shit that was everywhere in that period.

>>145838251
As someone who doesn't care about cars or guns, it's astounding that I like it as much as I do.

>>145838621
That is, the series, not the car.

>>145837131
I liked the ending. It was realistic.

>>145838621
It was a fun action series, what's not to love?

>>145838736
If I wanted realism I'd go outside.

>>145837131

Basically he got tired of it and tired of the fans of it.

So he basically crashed the manga into the ground as a result.

To this day, one of the top 5 worst endings for a good manga.

Burst was a mistake.

>>145838736

It was OOC.

>>145838843
What happened in the ending? Was it worse than the Gunnm ending? Is Burst worse than Last Order?

>>145838932
Probably.

>>145838843
Then why even bother?

>>145838932
Everything goes to shit and it ends that way.

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This page is an accurate portrayal of how /k/ sees every other board.

>>145837131
But muh random inserting of fetishes!

>>145840533
Shockingly so.

>>145838547
>I hated that mind control drug shit that was everywhere in that period.
Thank you, looks like you and I can share a beer/drink together. I also hated that whole hallucinogenic arc, as it just allowed asspulls left and right.

>>145841770
I don't think I would have hated Goldie as much as I did if it hadn't been for that arc.

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>>145838843
The series could've lived on with great interest if we could've had a Bean spin-off, reverting back to how Riding Bean was originally intended to be the main story.

It's disappointing to hear Sonoda felt this way and did as such, and frankly the manga DOES feel that way at the end. Any source as to where you read/heard this?

Why was Bean so shitty? He was the Poochie of the series.

>>145838932
They all live their own life separated from the others. The loli is happy with her husband and kid, the girl in love with Rally stays with someone else in love with her (more than Rally at least), Rally leaves for who knows where since she ended up alone and I forgot for the informer but she went doing her own thing too. Same with the guy.

>>145842473
He was Sonoda's pet character and the guy never found a way to make a Terminator-tough Transporter a compelling side character.

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>>145842933

SHit taste, both of you.

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>>145842933
He made the classic mistake of making someone too invulnerable. Literally the only character development for him in the course of a decade and a half: He won't transport drugs and he dropped hundreds of thousands of dollars on an armored car that goes sideways really fast.

>>145843273
But all he does is show up, make the plot happen and fuck off. There's no character, no vulnerability, no interest. If he appears you can basically skip to the end of the arc since he's going to make sure that the plot happens exactly as prescribed because he has plot armor as thick as the Earth's crust.

>>145843273
I actually like Bean, but he just did the same thing over and over.

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>>145843328
Side characters are allowed to be that way though.

>>145843427
>No vulnerability

He got fucked over badly a lot of times. If you're complaining he doesn't die, neither does Larry.

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>>145837131
Rally is love

Rally is life

>>145843518
Her name is Larry.

Well, her Alias. Rally is a shitty localization.

>>145840533
Being a Range Officer must be hell.

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I'm still mad about Dark Horse never finishing Cannon God Exxaxion.

>>145843625
Exxaxion was trash.

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>>145843619
>implying any competent range officer would allow that much retarded unruliness with that many newbies around

>>145843518
Is that short rail CZ yours? If so how much you pay for it and how'd you find one?

>>145843588
I prefer Rally, it's more like a nickname and the gender thing never really came up anyways.

>>145842022

Just a few interviews. In that typical Japanese way, he doesn't say it outright.

I personally think it was leftover anger from Cannon God Exaxxion getting cancelled. GS was his fallback and it embittered him.

>>145843781
It did come up though, pretty often. That's why the neutral name is a terrible localization. What, were they afraid readers would feel a little gay or something?

>>145838932

May and Ken become a family in the suburbs. They have it the easiest.

Bean left town to go to greener pastures.

Roy wasn't able to nail Percy for his corruption, and retired. He was just tired of the broken system.

Rally gave up bounty-hunting and the active life to work her store.

Oh, and she ended up putting Goldie back in power and restoring her evil side by accident. She also brainwashed Rally's thief friend and a bunch of other girls with an even more powerful version of Kerasine, to be her sex slaves.

Rally somehow decided she's okay with this.

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>>145843685
The hamfisted politics in there were cringeworthy as well. From a /k/ standpoint, Exxaxxion if anything really showed me just how egotistic Kenichi Sonoda was about his mastery of machines and weaponry. I wish he'd had the attention to detail and care of accuracy like Kosuke Fujushima's works.

>>145843881
Larry is a shitty name anyways.

>It did come up though, pretty often
When?

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>>145843588
I know, she chose a male name and the translation got it wrong but it's too late now.
>>145843705
Yes, both are short rails, I spent 6 years looking for them, and I paid $2000 for the first and $3000 for the second.

>>145843893
Wait, what happened with the thief friend? Who were the other girls?

>>145843993
It only came up once in a printed name that came out a printer that showed "Larry Vincent"


However, sonada approved the English translation of Rally, so it doesn't really matter

>>145844036

I forget who the other girls were. Incidental characters.

Her thief friend was Misty. Goldie kidnapped and brainwashed her to be her love slave.

Rally decided that Misty seemed happy and just let it go, despite knowing she was brainwashed, and that Goldie had other brainwashed slaves.

>>145843993
Every time someone said "I thought you were a guy" was a direct reference to that. They outright say she had a guys name for an alias so she'd have an easier time on the bounty hunting job.

It's a fairly important side of the character that is completely lost on english readers.

>>145844036
She got drugged into being a sex slave for the whacked out dyke bitch that wouldn't go away.

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>>145844007
Fug wrong pic

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>>145844132
Jesus christ. In what world is that an acceptable ending?

>>145844193
Fuck, those things are pretty.

>>145844233
In the world of a pissed off creator that had to run back to a series he had left behind,

>>145844233

Oh, and Sonoda stated Rally's orientation was "celibate lesbian" at a convention around that time, to torpedo anyone who liked Bean/Rally tension.

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Why are girls with man names so great?

Given that he had to recycle old villains and ideas for Burst, it's pretty obvious he never wanted to go back to it.

>>145844305
Well, he did have her sloppy gay kiss Misty when she saw her off to her new mindbroken sex slave life.

It's sometimes refreshing to see a main character go, "You know what? Fuck being a hero. Everyone's on their own."

>>145844413
Why is this ending sounding so much like a doujin?

One thing that surprised me going from the OVA to the manga was how much less over the top and crazy the latter was.

The manga was good, but I think I liked the OVA better.

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What...

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>>145844238
Thanks, I'm lucky to have them,

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>>145844803

...the fuck.

Gunsmith Cats OVA BDs when

>>145844803
>if Goldie wasn't around to funnel people into her horrible organization
>they might work for OTHER ONES

>>145844803
>>145844847

That's not how crime works! It's like the reasoning of someone who only watched Godfather movies.

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>>145844739
There were a few like that, not the least of which was Golden Boy.

>trying to read that goddamn nightmare

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>>145844847
Bitter as vinegar.

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>>145844803
>>145844847

Yup. That's how it works. Once those drug cartels got firmly entranched in their own territories, they never bothered anyone again. Nope. Never again.

>Larry gave so little a shit about Misty she just decided Goldie wasn't worth fighting.

Can't make that up.

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>>145844847
Please stop I can already feel my blood pressure rising.

>>145844193
Fucking beautiful my friend. I'm envious. I'd drop $2-3 g's easy if I could just FIND one, which is tough in California.

>>145844803
>>145844847

What a hero.

I can't stand how everything this mangaka draw feel very well drawn and realistic aside the female faces. Is like female faces are drawn by another mangaka.

>>145838251
Is a manga that want to be american. And so is all built on what japanese think are american things: cars, weapons, and titties.

>>145844826
Just dont let frilly bitch fingerfuck em, she's gonna scratch these beauties I swear to god

>>145844803
It's been a while but isn't the girl on the right Goldie's drug-addled fuck slave that somehow became her girlfriend and everyone just acts like that's totally okay?

>>145845505
Yes, she's Larry's gay thief friend who tried to take on Goldie because she wanted Larry's poon and failed, resulting in becoming a brainwashed slave.

>>145844803
>>145844847
Here the author is just trying to make a conclusion assuring Rally is not gonna bothered again. Kinda forced.

>>145844072
It comes up in the scene where they race the girl with the star (?) on her face. They don't say Larry, but she's like "Isn't that a boy's band?"

>>145845505

Yeah, Misty. Goldie uses her as a Rally replacement and everyone is apparently fine with this.

>>145845505
That's her happiness. In the end she is the one that must decide her life. Even if the others would not like that they can't do nothing.

>>145845593
In my headcanon she skipped town with bean and dyed her hair blond.

>>145845631
Name*

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>>145845654
>Brainwashed sex slaves have to decide what to do with their lives

>>145845654

You realized she's completely brainwashed, right?

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And a real hero

>>145845698
>>145845741
She like that. And Rally remember the last time she tried to rescue one of her sex slaves, that girl almost committed suicide.
Again, what to do? Going for another war kidnapping Misty that wanna stay with her?

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>>145845907

Real human

>>145845931
Learn english before learning logic. Then learn logic. Then argue.

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>>145845958

beeeeeeean

>>145845931
>she like that
You can't not like being brainwashed, You've been brainwashed to like it, dumbass.

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>>145845463
I like his character art, although in Burst you could see he sorta half assed most of it. Thank god the cars and guns were still top notch, because some of the characters wouldna looked out of place in a Togashi chicken image,

>>145844803
>>145844847
>>145845907
>>145845958
>>145846008
Why are you doing this to us? Why are you doing it to yourself?

>>145846168
Manga tell that she want to stay with Goldie. Being just brainwashed into that is your assumption.

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>>145846241

Because I want everyone who missed Burst to suffer, too.

>>145846325

It's STATED IN THE FUCKING PAGES, you incompetent mong. Read the fucking book.

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>his gun wizard series ended in 2013
>no scanlations at ALL
>no new series since then
I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking Sonoda had died of a japanese cold if it weren't for his endcard illustration for Koukaku no Pandora.

>>145846434

Never heard of it. Nor will I read anything by Sonoda, again.

>>145846434
Cute. That was a cute show.

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>>145846497
Burst wasn't even that bad until the very last chapter.
All that lead up for nothing, wew.

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>>145846384
She have her own reasons. And she tell Rally about them. This is not just the drugs doing the talking.

>>145846620
Holy shit you dumb fucking spic, if she's being brainwashed by drugs, none of her reasons are her own.

>>145846689
Awright. Trolling confirmed.

>>145845501
Looks like it's too late anon
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_kd4nx7NKr4

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Sonoda sure can draw the cutest lolis.

>>145846620
>Brainwashed slave "states her reasons"

>>145846620

The fact that there's drug influence at all is a problem.

If I have to explain to you WHY it's an issue, I don't think there's any help for you.

>>145846689
>Spic
Poo in the loo, actually.

>>145847484
Even worse, you're supposed to actually know english, being commonwealth and all.

>>145847537
Sorry, was reading out of context and thought you were talking about Rally accepting her reasons. That anon is probably a spic.

>>145847570
>Curry Vincent.

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>>145847683
She's only half dothead.

>>145843625
>still mad about Dark Horse never finishing Cannon God Exxaxion.

be annoyed that Sonoda put in an uncensored underage sex scene like 75% of the way into the story

>>145847979
Man his grandpa sure was banging lots of broads.

I have 1 - 7 volumes trans on my hd. Anymore?

>>145843904
the politics in Exaxxion were pretty shitty, but he was entirely correct about the degree of manipulation in the media and how everything boils down to controlling public sentiment, truth be damned.

> gentle reminder that a felonious gun-grabber will probably be next president because she will succeed in convincing everyone that the orange billionaire would be trigger happy about nuking mexicans

>>145848107
i mean if you download your chinese mangos and cars whats the point in following laws the "elites" dont even care to follow? Just do what you do brah.

>>145844963
>>145845015
>>145845053
>>145845593
this is stupid nip logic to excuse the yakuza for not really being that bad, since of course japan couldn't ever have any real internally-caused problems.

>>145848226
>i mean if you download your chinese mangos
jokes on you I actually buy manga if I like it enough

>>145848226
but you wouldn't download an AssaultRifle-15, would you?

>>145846235
>those fingers in the last panel
I own this manga, I've seen this page a lot of times and this is the first time I noticed

>>145848630
Sonoda's an excellent draftsman, but he's so-so at anatomy.

Brown rally is okay but I like riding bean rally better.

>>145848896
That's not bad anatomy, that's just a poorly-drawn bit. His anatomy is quite decent.

>>145847053
Top tier sequence right here. Making a car chase exciting in comics is a tall order but Sonoda makes it look easy.

>>145838251
>MustangII
worst mustang ever

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>>145838251
>Mustang II
>>145849508
Just look at this ugly piece of shit.

How Sonoda chose this car is beyond belief.

>>145847053
that's because he's a hardcore lolicon - see his doujinshi circle ganso sonodaya

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>>145849428
He has such clean lineart.

>>145849683
in that color combination it doesn't look half bad - I remember as a kid my uncle had one in green and it was the ugliest fucker i've laid eyes on. it amazed me how mustang "enthusiasts" cry about foxbody stangs, yet don't lambast that ugly fucker at every chance given.

>>145849846

The Mustang II sucked because it was just a gussied-up Ford Pinto.

>>145849846
Mustang enthusiasts love foxbodies for being cheap and easy to modify.

I also like the 80's box style, personally,

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The making of video was so cheesy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ooFqTSS4To

>>145849955
naw, these days all you hear is they crying because they "don't look like mustangs". that said, a tubbed xl notchback with a 460 and a 9" rear is godly. it's hard to build a cheaper bracket racer than an 80s stang.

>>145849955
isnt the 80s style the "fox body" ?

>>145850164

Yes, but there are differences between the early/mid 80's foxbodies and the late 80's/early 90's cars.

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>>145849955
The Fox body will always have a special place in my heart because of this scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LLo5tsAOi0

How he got them Daytons.... literally one of the blackest fucking scenes ever filmed in the history of cinema.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pazPUnCo3Iw

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>>145850164
Yes, it is.
Did I imply it wasn't?

>>145850313
no guess i was implying my confusion.

>>145850073
How is Rally so hot despite her impossibly flat ass?

>>145847705
Still half nigger, one drop rule

>>145850488
Because competent badasses are attractive

>>145850488
her tits.

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>>145850488
BUILT FOR SEX

>>145850751
Lightning was reasonably attractive in 13. Then 13-3 and her goddamn negative ass happened.
Her sister was always hotter anyway.

>>145850806
She was hot as fuck at the beginning when she was a hardass telling the rest of the people in the game that they were fuckups.

They the fucking writers waifu'd her and turned her into a goddamn doormat, then into uncanny valley where you start to wonder if you're supposed to feel sympathetic to her because she's acting like some sort of mindbroken tool.

>>145851225
Did that happen in the same game or only in the sequels?