Rewatching this show 7 years on and holy shit it aged like fine

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>holy shit it aged like fine wine.
Not really

I watched it for the first time 6 months ago and thought it was pretty boring.

There hasn't been a cute girls show even close to its calibre since, I can't imagine that'll change anytime soon.

>>145770814
Is that image supposed to prove anything?

>>145770983
Yeah, Mugi is very cute.

>>145770879
Obviously, since K-On is the Re:Zero of moe.

>>145771017
Yui is better.

>>145770719
Sansha Sanyou came to a close

>>145771050
Re:Zero is truly a masterpiece of our time.

>>145771065
Ranking the Keions is blasphemous.

>>145771050
>K-On! is the SAO of moe
FTFY

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>>145770983
I love K-On!, but you kyoanifags need to realize that the show doesn't look as polished as modern CGDCT shows

>>145771115
Re:Zero > K-On

>>145771128
Underages are not allowed here.

>>145771180
Re:Zero > everything

>>145771128
And?

>>145770719
The music is shit and it's overall boring.

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>>145771441
>The music is shit
no

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>>145770814
>>145771128
But unlike modern moe K-On actually has a soul.

>>145771441
HTT has a lot of good songs, you're just narrow minded.

>>145770719
Non Non Biyori already did three years ago.

>>145774276
How tasteless.

>>145770719
>needed one hour to watch the first episode
It's trash

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>>145770719
It already has

>>145771050
Why are you comparing K-on with seasonal flavour?

>>145771983
Gochiusa says otherwise

>>145774678

Japan disagrees.

>>145774678
>buttmoe

>>145774678
GochiUsa is exactly the type of soulless moetrash that >>145771983 was referring to

>>145774678
>Gochiusa
Come on anon, it's not exceptionally good even compared to your average seasonal kirara yuribait anime.

>>145771441

>K-on is good enough for Jason Mraz
>But some anon doesn't like it.

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>>145774629
It's a meme. Everyone is aware that rezero is garbage so it's fun to falseflag as a retarded fanboy. I guess the logic goes like:
>rezero is being meme'd as the modern day Evangelion
>The mecha genre and arguably anime plateaued with Evangelion
>CGDCT plateaued with K-On.

>>145774832
Feels good to be understood.

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>>145771180

Forgettable seasonal show vs classic, record breaker, game changer, show that 7 years later still sells and is still loved in Japan.

>>145774678

I remember watching and enjoying GochiUsa but I don't remember any moment that made a significant impact on me. But K-on went from an ok show to "oh fuck it hurts to much why did it had to end"

>>145774973
>K-on is good enough for Jason Mraz
Okay, you got me, I'm curious. What does that mean?

Never, because modern SoL tries to copy the archetypes and the little iconic scenes without building up the character relationships and giving them natural, unforced interactions which would give context to said archetypes or scenes. It's the same as every other medium. Something really successful and good comes along, then all the other corporate whores try to cash in by trying to copy the formula without actually understanding how the formula works or not being arsed enough to put the effort into it and instead just doing a cheap Chinese knockoff. It's okay though. Put in enough pantsu shots and yuri and the audience will just relax, turn off their brains, turn on their dicks and enjoy the fork in their brain. Fork in the brain.

>>145775821
One of his songs opens with the *guitar riff* keiooon! thing.

>>145771128
I don't think modern shows look any more polished.
If those are the worst quality shots you can find in the show, that's still pretty good for today's standard too.

>>145775945
>the *guitar riff* keiooon! thing
You mean the one that plays in the eyecatch?

>>145771441
Show me your last.fm. 100 bucks says you don't know shit about music.

>>145776146
Never mind, just found it. The fucking madman, what was he thinking showing his power level in the open like that?

>>145774678
GochiUsa is fucking garbage compared to K-On. Holy shit you newshits are fucking dumb.

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K-On is a timeless classic as far as CGDCT SoLs go. It literally set the standard for all other shows to follow but none have been able to dethrone it. GochiUsa, Kinmosa, NNB, YrYr, Tamayura, A-Channel, Yuyushiki, Kanamemo, SoRaNoWoTo, Yama Susume, etc are fine but they can't hold a candle to K-On. I truly believe this show was the peak of the genre and it's been going downhill since the K-On movie aired.

Even CGDCT shows that aired before K-On like Azumanga, Gakuen Utopia, Minami-ke, Ichigo Machimaro, Lucky Star, Aria, Hyakko, Lucky Star, PPD, Hidamari, or Sketchbook are much better than the mass produced garbage we get today. Contemporary cute girls doing cute things slice of life shows feel so soulless.

If we're talking about animation quality, S1 was very low budget but S2 still holds and even beats most shows that air today, and the movie had some of the best direction I've ever seen in an anime movie.

>>145777486
Hidamari, Aria and Ichigo Mashimaro are better though.

>it's actually not a pasta
What the fuck.

>>145776222
When you attain a certain level of fame, it's often safe to reveal your power level (or at least certain elements of it).

>>145777617
Hidamari, Aria and Machimaro are more specialized as far as themes and pacing go. K-On did everything a cute girl SoL can do and it did it great.

>>145777617
>>it's actually not a pasta
>What the fuck.

Wow, someone expresses their opinion in something else than an 8 word meme shitpost? Stop the fucking presses.

No wonder your taste is so fucking shit.

>>145771128
True, but the charm of K-On is not the visuals

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>>145777820
>but the charm of K-On is not the visuals
Come on those hands are adorable.

>>145777720
>someone expresses their opinion in something else than an 8 word meme shitpost
He literally didn't say a thing except "K-on was very popular and I think it's better that aaaalll these shows I listed"

>>145777720
Not that I disagree with him but all he fucking did was namedrop shows

>>145777967
When did I even mention popularity? Fucking retard. What's next? Are you going to say I'm a KyoAni fag for liking one of their shows?

>>145778068
Excuse me, then you just said:

"I think K-on it's better than alllll these show I listed."

Happy?

>>145777967
>can't even read posts bigger than a tweet without losing track of what's being said

>>145778109
>Excuse me, then you just said:
Learn to not talk like a retard and maybe some day someone will take your infantile blabbering seriously.

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>>145778109
Because it is, no other cute girl SoL past K-On has had the level of characterization. If you want to argue that some Pre-K-On shows did certain things better, fine, but newer ones aren't even on the same league.

>>145778268
Try making an actual argument next time instead of writing many words that doesn't mean a fucking thing.

I guess it'll become a great pasta in the future, and yeah, me and my broken english tell you to fuck off, it's not because K-on was popular and good enough to set a new standard back then that it is the best SOL of all time.

Many others SOLs that you actually listed are as good if not better.

I like how the kyoani fanbase has to defend everything the studio does, tooth and nail.
Even if someone just mentions that k-on looks a tad dated now

>>145778622
I wouldn't consider myself a fan of Kyoani but I simply don't think K-on looks dated.
It's not like the industry made any great technological advancements since the time it came out.

>>145778622
Literally doesn't look dated though.
Why you gotta generalize everyone who disagrees with you as some kinda fanboy?

>>145778835
>>145778876
Maybe the designs do look a bit dated, but the overall animation quality is just fine.

for real though, what is wrong with people who dont like k-on? how is it possible

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>>145778876
>>145778929
It does look dated. It's not as "shiny" as current shows and the model constancy is often sacrificed for movement which is rare nowadays. Mostly apples to early S1 and not at all for S2 though.

>>145777777

>>145774322
How so? What did K-On do that NNB didn't do better (besides playing instruments while only shot from the neck up or from a distance)?

>>145779191
So evolution in artstyle? Dated has negative connotations, so when it doesn't look any worse it can be misunderstood.

>>145779191
Kyoani has gotten better at hands, for one. This show, especially S1, was what popularized the "Kyoani can't draw hands" meme.

>>145779372
K-on and NNB are different types of SOL though, NNB is better overall for me, but it doesn't have a dynamic between the characters as good as k-on.

>>145779372
I think how much you like NNB depends on how much it reminds you of your own childhood.

That's why for some people it just doesn't click at all.

>>145779372
Actually going somewhere, actually having good animation besides just pretty backgrounds and deformed faces, not being slow as hell, characters actually growing, ect.

>>145779439
Well it does look dated along with the negative connotations of the word. People will compare it to a newer KyoAni shows and not your typical low-effort seasonal. So it that sense k-on's date clearly shows.

>>145779741
>actually going somewhere
Who cares about that, really?

>>145779372
Cast is less well-rounded, show lacks direction and is little more than a collection of funny scenes, art is worse, animation is worse and Hotaru is a trashy character.

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>>145778622

>If you like at least one Kyoani show it means you are a Kyoanifag
>If you disagreed with me you are a Kyoanifag

>>145779741
It doesn't sound like you enjoy SOLs in general.

>>145779777
People with taste.

>>145779923
Being slice of life shouldn't act as an excuse for shitty writing.

>>145779968
People with taste likes every kind of SOL, unlike you.

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NNB is one of the best recent cute girl doing cute things Sols to be honest, K-On is still better though.

>>145780033
I'm pretty sure liking literally everything regardless of what it's like is the polar opposite of taste.

>>145771983
Not really.

>>145780054
Keion had the best character dynamic of any and all SoL anime. It had the second best atmosphere second only to Tamako Market. NNB while enjoyable had only Renge antics and candy store relationship going on for it. Incomparable to Keion honestly.

>>145780054
It is, but I still wouldn't pin it as more than a 5 or 6.

>>145780097
I'm not saying you must like everything, but that you must not hate any SOL that isn't the "growing type" with no fucking reason.

You're telling me that things like Ichigo mashimaro, Yuru Yuri or Minami-ke are bad because the characters won't grow up? That's retarded.

>>145780355
Nobody said anything about hating. Putting shows like NNB above K-On despite K-On having writing and characters on an entirely different level along with bettwr visuals is just batshit retarded and arguing for the sake of arguing. You're simply objectively wrong. There's no discussing this. The discussion is pointless.

>>145780453
NNB has better comedy, and pretty backgrounds is a reason someone could prefer an anime. Both have strengths over the other.

>>145780453
>k-on have actual characters
Sorry but K-on's characters are nothing really special, but I agree to say that the interactions between then is way better than NNB though.

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>>145776582
GochiUsa is just fine.

>>145780919
S1 is a solid 6. S2 shit the bed and was a 4/10 in my opinion

>>145779741
>People will compare it to a newer KyoAni shows and not your typical low-effort seasonal.
"Dated" sounds like you're comparing it to the current standard though and not talking about the style of a specific studio changing.
It probably would look a little different if Kyoani made it today but it's not something that couldn't be aired today as it was back then.

>>145780691
>K-on's characters are nothing really special
That's true, but what matters in this kind of SoL are the character interactions, it's what sets apart these common archetypes.
In K-On you can sense the group dynamics, you know how each character will interact with the other and what kind of relationship they have, and there is a lot of attention and love put into the gestures and the little details.
I enjoyed NNB a lot but I agree with the other anon who said Renge e Candy Store were the only ones really interesting to watch. Though it's more about the overall atmosphere and nostalgia anyway, and it succeeds at this.

>>145780691
Are there actual sols with really special characters? I've seen pretty much all of the relevant ones and none of them had particularly noteworthy characters.

>>145781713
K-On!

>>145781007
How? season one and two are practically the same in in almost every way.
I really cannot comprehend how someone could like Keion, but hate GochiUsa or NNB at the same time.
GochiUsa and NNB are hands down the best SoL titles post-Keion. Not only did these shows have endless spontaneous humor that was actually funny, but the way the characters interacted with each other felt natural to me. For example when Cocoa gets jealous of her onee-chan and ends up getting mad at misunderstanding her only to become really sad when they have to part again. or in NNB when Candystore gets emotionally attached to Renge while teaching her how to hide a bike. You can tell that candystore was realizing for the first time inf her life what it really means to be a kid and how rewarding it feels to help someone grow up.
At least this is how I saw it. Rather than just some quick gag comedy, I felt like the characters in these shows were natural like a real person is. I feel like if any show comes close to Keion, it would be GochiUsa and NNb

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>>145781863
>GochiUsa and NNB are hands down the best SoL titles post-Keion
Calm down there.

>>145781713
Define special characters. Do you really believe a show needs to have edgy suffering shit in order for characters not to be shallow and two-dimensional?

>>145781863
They're both trashy buttmoe.
Best post-keion cute girls show would be something like Yuyushiki, which even then is more in the tradition of Azumanga Daioh than K-On!

I don't know anymore if I love Gochiusa for the anime or for the fucking perfect doujins.

>>145782032
Yuyushiki had great potential to elevate itself above all the other generic stuff like kinmoza and yryr and became a classic if it didn't force its yuri so much. Genuinely amazing show though.

>>145771392
I really hope you're not this stupid, anon

>>145782196
Talking about Kinmoza, I'll never understand the popularity of this one, I mean, beside Aya and Karen, everything else is terrible, we all agree?

It would've been so much better as a short, like Wakaba.

>>145782290
Absolutely. Kinmoza was absolute dogshite to me. A perfect example of just throwing in all of the generic arhetypes and generic "iconic sol scenes" without anything to make the characters actually stand our or giving them chemistry. It was bearable during S1 while it had some jokes in between. S2 just went full out with teeth-rotting over the top cutsey-sweetness and yuri, with not a single gag that I remember giving me at least an internal chuckle.

>>145781922
it's my opinion, you don't have to agree. I'm just stating that I think character interactions and character depth is really important in a SoL anime. NNB and GochiUsa nailed those aspects down in a way that was not only funny and charming, but also natural.
>>145782196
YYS was a good show, But I didn't really feel that it did anything that hadn't been done before and this might be because of the 12 episode restraints it had. I didn't feel that the characters in Yuyushiki really grew in depth when I finished watching. I felt like the directer of YYS was just trying to make a funny cartoon rather than make any actual memorable moments. Not once while watching YYS did I feel sad, anxious, or angry for the characters. Same with Kinmoza

>>145782430
I felt the same with Yuru Yuri, though I didn't even finish it. I really wanted to like it, but the repetitiviness put me off.

>>145782560
>I didn't feel that the characters in Yuyushiki
They didn't have to. Most people don't change all that much during a single schoolyear. YYS did, on the other hand, have a very natural character dynamic (aside from Yuzu wanting to grope Yui's ass and titties every 10 minutes) that I don't see from shows like Kinmoza, YrYr, or Gochi at all. While K-On is probably my favourite show, Yuyushiki is honestly the one that gets me the most nostalgic, and probably one of the very, very few in the genre where I can actually see the 3 characters acting as natural friends rather than them just being "cute anime girls doing cute things" (despite the fact that they are cute anime girls doing cute things, which makes it all that much better).

>>145782689
Tastes are weird I guess, I loved Yuru Yuri but couldn't stand Kinmoza.

>>145782858
As much as Gochiusa is a "meme", the interactions aren't that bad, but I don't know why, there's something in Gochiusa that makes me love it even though it's mediocre as a SOL.

This show is so damn weird.

>>145782868
Am I the only one who enjoyed all sol shows mentioned in this thread?

>>145781973
Well that anon was criticising k-on's cast so I just wanted to know what amounts to a superior sol character for him that's all.

But a strong character is fleshed out to a point where his complexity makes him feel like an actual person. He has multiple defining traits, multiple goals, insecurities, he has to deal with problem beyond high school shenanigans and so on. And if you want such a character to amount to anything his moral values and/or psychological flaws have to be challenged in a meaningful way. A good sol example of such a cast would be Haiben Renmei.

>>145782868
I didn't watch enough of Kinmoza to judge it (but from what I've seen it's not really appealing to me), just saying Yuru Yuri gave me the similar feeling you described. But maybe I should give it another chance, I actually liked Akari and Kyouko. I just felt it exhausted all it's gags by the fourth/fifth episode.
My favorite all-(cute)girl SoLs remain K-On, Ichigo Mashimaro, Aria and SnW, but they are very different from each other.

>>145783025
Yes. Among the 7 billion people that live on this earth, you are the only unique individual who enjoyed these 6-8 very popular shows from a certain genre. Let's stop talking about the things we like and dislike about these certain shows and start addressing this amazing fact instead.

>>145782196
Yuyushiki is good cause exceptionally well-written. It's really fucking funny. Completely and utterly inane, the dialogue feels like it exists for no purpose other than amusing the characters. That's what makes it stand put to me, but I wouldn't put it even close to K-On! of we're comparing them.

>>145770719
Idolmaster is better

>>145782858
The problem I have with YYS was that there is pretty much only a handful of emotions expressed by the characters, and there really is no conflict at all in the story that made them change.
YYS was a great comedy but that's really as far as it goes. GochiUsa on the other hand had conflict that made me identify and "feel" the characters so to speak. Like when Chino talks about how she's too shy to take the initiative to get to know someone by herself. I could understand her. Or when Cocoa gets jealous about Chino spending all her time with Mocha. I could understand Cocoa. Or the part where Mocha cuddles Chino, and Chino thinks to herself "her comfort is just like a mother's" which of course alludes to the fact that she misses her mother who has passed away. it were little things like that which made me love Gochiusa

>>145783439
Idolmaster or any idol show for that matter is just vapid garbage. Soulless genre that relies on heavy marketing bombarding you left and right. Success and popularity are brewed in a meeting room, idolshit shows are no better than capeshit movies.

I just wanted to say that Hidamari Sketch is probably my favourite SOL.

>>145783602
(You)

>>145783160
Yuru Yuri is similar to kinmoza in that it is very bland, predictable, generic and has very boring characters, but it manages to be much more enjoyable than kinmoza by just focusing on its comedy, which makes the show a lot more fun. I said earlier that's what made the first season of kinmoza bearable as opposed to just how awful the second one was, but even then that comedy was quite sparse when in comparison to just how concentrated Yuru Yuri is.

>>145783251
>Completely and utterly inane, the dialogue feels like it exists for no purpose other than amusing the characters
Honestly the most realistic portrayal of a small group of 3 tight-knit friends in the low-demand years of junior high.

>>145783537
SoL is not fucking Serial Experiments Lain or Evangellion, mate. There's no need for conflict and tears. Sometimes you just go through 10th and 11th grade having a fun, relaxed time with your two frends with time passing so fast you barely notice. You don't need drama and intrigue to have good writing.

>>145783602
Idol shows can be tacky at times, yes, but seriously I find Love Live and its ilk more compelling or even artful than the majority of cute girls shows these days.

>>145783602
>Soulless genre that relies on heavy marketing bombarding you left and right. Success and popularity are brewed in a meeting room
So, a very realistic representation of the thing that it is portraying then?

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>it's a "pretend that K-On is a good anime" episode

>>145783770
LoveLive without the idol part would be a very generic cute girls show, but still watchable I guess

Basically, what you need to make a good SOL is memorable character(s).

Gochiusa is the definition of this.

>comparing NNB and K-ON
They're practically different genres, one is an healing anime with comedy and another is a gag 4koma comedy with some mild melodrama.

>>145783698
>There's no need for conflict and tears
you're right, there doesn't need to be, but it's something that appeals to me and is the reason why I loved Keion so much.
If you think about keion at the start of season 1, the characters are really generic, but as the show progresses and you start to know a little more about them bit-by-bit, it becomes really enticing. especially the parts where Yui Ritsu, Mugi, and Mio all sing their last some to Azusa before they leave her behind, that was really intense and it made me tear up at the end. no SoL has ever done that to me before

>>145783867
>not a new IP
fuck off

>>145783881
GochiUsa had no memorable characters. They were all cookie cutter archetypes, you could literally swap them with characters from KinMosa or A-channel and nothing would change.

Reminder:digibro-tard loves k-on, but hated non non bioyri.

>>145783957
K-On had some healing episodes that topped anything NNB did.

>>145783960
I really loved the episode where Ritsu thought she got a love letter. I think that's what makes her one of the best characters of her archetype, she's not just an one-note genki brat but she has an insecure and vulnerable side that makes her endearing as fuck.

>>145783960
"Emotional moments" are almost always so badly made that it ruins some SOL for me, I know that many people liked that episode of Yuru Yuri, but really, it felt terribly out of place and so forced that I almost had to skip the end of this episode.

Only K-on, Hidamari and Aria actually made me sad for the characters.

>>145784064
it's the interactions between the characters that really matters

>>145784202
Yes and the interactions between K-On characters are light years better than GochiUsa's. GochiUsa characters never really left their archetype comfort zone either.

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I just watched the first season of K-On for the first time recently and it was a lot funnier than I expected
I'll have to watch the rest soon
Mugi a best

>>145784287
Keion's characters interaction were incredible, but I thought GochiUsa's interactions were better than most SoL anime. i guess to each is his own

>>145784197
>hating the best episode of yuru yuri.
Kill yourself, my man.

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>>145783656
Excellent taste. There's nothing quite like Hidamari.

>>145783770
Love Live Sunshine has almost gotten unbearable in the last few episodes. The characters are so poorly written. They just constantly show off their one gimmick that differentiates it from the others, and there is no real interaction between them either. They just all perform their archetype independently of each other. I would love an idol show made by a competent studio, but Love Live is not one of them.

>>145783957

NNB is ok but not memorable and that shows in how little impact had in the audience/industry. Meanwhile K-on is still fresh in the mind of the audience that still votes for the show in polls, buy merch, rewatch it.

>>145784393
And I just can't find anything wrong with Hidamari, it did everything perfectly.

I'm just gonna say this, Gochiusa was enjoyable, but it's probably the most overrated SoL around here. I could say this of NNB perhaps, but NNB actually has a sizeable collection of excellent episodes and feels less cookie-cutter-ish than Gochiusa all around. Nor really trying to pick a fight with people who like Gochiusa, it's just that I really don't understand why people give it so much consideration.

>>145784101
I love k-on but thought NNB was pretty bad, that show did nothing for me. I have no idea what's a digibro

Reminder that the K-ON manga is complete utter garbage and the anime went through a ridiculous amount of restructuring and improvements to be as good as it is. If Yamada directed GochiUsa and worked on it the same way she did K-ON you'd be praising it just as much.

>>145784565
plenty of people here are already praising GochiUsa

>>145782560
>YYS was a good show, But I didn't really feel that it did anything that hadn't been done before
Yuyushiki is the only show of its kind where I felt the characters weren't communicating for the sake of the audience, where there was no ulterior authorial motive, where the characters spoke for their own amusement.

>>145783960
That's just character traits though. I mean sure, K-On was great because the characters weren't just archetypes and had their own traits that made them believable as people and that played into their dynamic, but the show was great as they were going about their daily lives. The ending drama was something that put the time they spent into perspective and gave us a bittersweet ending that tied things up. Everyone crying at the end wasn't what made K-On amazing. Everything up to and including it is what made it amazing.

Ther character traits in yuyushiki may be more subtle, but they're also there. What's more important though, is that the two are very different shows that do very different things. Yuyushiki is much more believable in its interactions between characters and has very believable dialogue. K-On is a much more idealised version of that reality and therefore is weaker in the aspect of being able to relate to the characters and events.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love K-On. The show had a huge impact on me. It's what brought me even closer to my best friend, it's what made me pick up and instrument and actually get even more enthusiastic about appreciating music, and it will remain my favourite show for years to come. It's just that you seem to be devaluing yuyushiki mainly because you can't seem to appreciate a character dynamic and atmosphere/thematic the show sets up unless it's very in-your-face with its emotional moments.

>>145784421
The first LL is pretty decent though, even if you have absolutely no interest in idols.

>>145784425
Better or not, they're still different kinds of shows that aim for a different feel. It's like comparing Flying Witch and Yuru Yuri.

>>145784565
Yeah, your point being? Nobody here is praising the manga author.

>>145784386
Moogy is a degenerate bimbo.

>>145784757
Smelly, dumb, tertiary meming scum.

>>145784646
The first two seasons were pretty enjoyable, yeah. But they had elements of sports anime in them, you could see them work hard, and there were some songs too. The characters were still lackluster, but you could follow their progression as a group too. The new Love Live has to be classified as a drama or cgdct anime, the first season had strong arguments for being classified as sports. Drama or cgdct doesn't work with such bad characters.

>>145784101
>digibro-tard
Like a fucking care about your beloved e-celebs. Don't bring that shit here!

>>145784811
>cgdct doesn't work with such bad characters
Depends on what you mean by "work". Most cgdct is essentially just a collection of tropes with a cute girl skin and they sell moderately well.

Seriously though, I think the problem with Sunshine is that they're too preoccupied with selling the characters for their superficial traits and missing out on actually developing interesting relationships and group dynamics between those characters, which is what the original LL was doing nearly all of the time. Not to say that Sunshine is completely overlooking that aspect, but it feels really shallow in comparison to the first one.

>>145784643
I think what made the ending of Keion so great was that the characters were always having fun together and grew so close that once it was time to move on, it hit them (and us as the audience) like a wall of bricks.
I like YYS a lot, but it's a lot different than Keion is

>>145770719
>Will this masterpiece every be beat?
no chance

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>>145784101

Taking about youtubers on /a/


>>>/out/

>>145779191
>It does look dated. It's not as "shiny" as current shows
nigger download the blurays and turn up the brightness

>and the model constancy is often sacrificed for movement which is rare nowadays
>implying thats a bad thing
its like you want CG

K-On more like Kin-On

>>145788314
>>>/tv/
And what the fuck does kino mean?