Why is Jojo so boring right now? It doesn't even have a

>>145708630
Jojo has always been garbage.

Part 1 was good in the beginning and the very end.
Part 2 has so far been my favourite as it was consistently good the whole way through.
Part 3 was good in certain brief moments and amazing at the very end.
Part 4 is above average throughout the whole way. Nothing spectacular so far but we'll see.

>>145708630
part 4 is Araki's take on the SoL genre, and it doesn't get really good until Kira actually gets introduced
the funnier scens are honestly way better in the manga, they just don't have the right comedic timing in the anime, gotta stretch out episodes to 22 minutes i guess

>>145708630
>It doesn't even have a plot anymore
Have you not been paying attention?

>>145708813
It's not a Sol. The characters engage in violent daily conflicts with people that want to kill them and rape their sisters.

>>145708936
well its Araki's take on SoL
first enemy was a serial killer
then a guy shooting people with arrows
but then it was just a guy ripping people offf
an asshole jealous of Josuke's way with girls
a crazy girlfriend
eating Italian food
then it goes back to a guy actually trying to kill them
then back to them fucking around then trying to find a serial killer, while they continue to fuck around with daily stuff

Part 4 is SoL with a touch of murder mystery

>>145708630
Ever since season 3 thats all jojo has been.

How did you make it through Part 3 if you hate random encounters?

>>145709065

It's not SoL. Araki just wanted to try sticking to a single setting since the previous ones were constructed as journeys. He's been experimenting with settings ever since.

>>145709123
That was a build up against Dio. The enemies were getting more and more deadly meaning they were close to Dio, climaxing with the battle against Vanilla Ice. This is just random Stand Users that don't have anything to do with the main villain

I gave up on it. The characters in p4 have managed to make Jotaro look like a well written, complex character.

Main villain was barely introduced and people already say it sucks. Part 4 has one of if not the best villains of JoJo so be patient or gtfo

>>145709234
It was still
>Hey guys lets go to <plot point>
>oh no something happened!
>this must be the result of a stand user
>wheres the stand user!?
>WHERES THE STAND USER!?!?!?
>theres the stand user!
>ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA
>hey guys lets keep going to <plot point>
>oh no something happened!
>.
>.
>.

The was the first Jojo series I've seen after previously reading part 1/2/3 like six years ago, and I think I'm glad I stopped reading when I did.

>>145708630
At least complain about the manga after you read the whole part.

>>145709239
Well, it's subtle, but Jotaro goes from a rough teenage delinquent to a guy that doesn't act like a total asshole anymore, at least.

>>145708813
I have to agree, Cinderella arc felt good in manga even though it was a total mood killer. It was barely decent in anime even when it was misplaced. It just proves that anime will never beat the mango.

>>145708630

Still better than the shit show that was part 3

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The fuck you talking about? We just got to see the end of Damo Tamaki and find out what we needed to know about Josuke's origins.

Now it's a whole new arc beginning and Joshuu's Scummy Adventure. What's not to like?

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>>145708710
>angry because falling for b8.

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>>145709497
Not OP but the fact we're back to square one and stuck waiting for a filler Joshuu chapter to finish is frustrating. Wanted to know where the story would go next. Josuke imo is the worst fucking Jojo next to Giorno so far. He is devoid of any likable personality. I am dumbfounded as to why everyone loves him. Not bait.

>>145709689
I really like Josuke personally, as his stand uses less direct methods than PUNCH PUNCH and it's nice to see these abstract conflicts. Personality-wise, I like his cunning. Enjoyed the mystery of identity as well.

Never was crazy about Gio at all.

>>145709689
I don't mind Josuke, but I do mind that retard Okuyasu and his shitty voice.

>>145709992
He's talking about Josuke 8, not 4.

>>145709192
araki said so himself that it's a SoL take

>>145709689
because he's part goofy and part based as fuck

What is Jojo and should I begin watching it?

gay shit is gay shit

>>145710110
Oops.My point stands.

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>>145708771
My exact feelings.

>>145709065
>>145708813
You are mixing SoL with episodic, you fucking idiot. If that was the case, Stardust Crusaders would be the K-ON of Evangelion.

>>145710367
Stardust Crusaders is literally monster of the week

>>145710367
no, you're mistaking SoL with episodic.

Stardust Crusaders is the epitome of Stand of the week

>>145710391
That's my fucking point.

The Kira plotline starts this week but like, it's gonna go back to episodic stuff that's just the nature of the series.

>>145710234
No, it's bad and gay and people who watch it and think the characters or stories are any good are actually idiots.
I'm not saying this to push you away because of some kind of weird /a/ culture. I truly believe this.

>>145710415
No, your point was that SC was SoL which it isn't.

P4 is SoL because it's kids finding the killer in their town. On their journey they meet an alien, a guy in a radio tower, a kid that likes rock,paper, scissors, a guy that likes to scare people, a yandere, a manga artist, kill some rats and lots of other shit

>>145708630
It becomes like this from Part 3 onwards. It's not for everyone so feel free to hop off the train if it just doesn't turn out to be your thing. I aasure you though, Part 4 is most people's favorite part for a good reason. A lot of anime-onlies are dropping it because of the more SOL-esque feel to it but I highly advise watching it through.

>>145710472
>No, your point was that SC was SoL which it isn't.
My point is that SC is NOT a SoL you dense retard. I'm mocking the idea that DiU was a SoL because like SC, they are both monster of the week.

I didn't know anime onlies actually exist on a board like /a/

>>145710472
>P4 is SoL because it's kids finding the killer in their town.
Also that isn't a SoL either. It's a mystery story with light hearted comedic tone.

>>145710567
is this a prank? where's the camera?

>>145710607
it turns into a mystery in the second part.

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>>145708630
I assume that you must want this (You)

>>145708630
you get the main antagonist next episode
like literally the next episode that will air on friday gives you the villain for the main plot; things up till now have been setting up the cast and abilities with minor arc-villains to move the story

>>145708630
Why is your taste so bad?

>>145708630
Fuck you. It's a ton of fun. The battles are ALWAYS interesting and the characters are great.

>>145708630
I still don't know how some can like SC characters and fights more than Part 4.

We got Cinderella early so we could get 5 weeks of straight Kira. Everyone agrees that Kira is the best or second best villain in the whole series and you will see why.

I like the art and animation style, but I'm really really missing the action and purpose of parts 1 and 2.

Part 3 was just kind of meh overall, with one or two small, decent moments.

>>145708630
I had more fun watching Harvest than I have with anime in quite a while

>>145711498
>Everyone agrees that Kira is the best or second best villain in the whole series and you will see why.

no they don't.

>>145711498
this. Fatty > Koichi. Koichi ruins any scene he's in.

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>>145708771
best post in the thread. I like part 4 a lot but I find it hard to get exciting about, it's consistently good. But it's still good rather than incredible.

>>145710566
>I aasure you though, Part 4 is most people's favorite part for a good reason.

Why do people feel so confident spouting this rubbish. If you like it great, don't clam you speak for all JoJo fans. There's plenty of people who like it and plenty of people who don't- just like every part it divides opinion.

>>145709234

I like part 3 and all but there's no getting around the fact that there were WAY too many stand users shoved in and only like, half were enjoyable.

You have to sit through all the tarot card characters then when you think it's finally up to Dio, they shove nine more assholes into the plot who drag on for way too long, especially the comedic ones towards the very end, who ruin the building tension of the finale.

You could have cut the last 9 down to Pet shop/Vanilla ice and maybe Terence D'arby.

>>145711635
People always say this but the OVAs were never watched by many people outside of those who were already JoJo fans.

If this is true you can pretty much cut out huge chunks of every JoJo part since all of them have filler.

>>145711615
Right, but dropping it before the best part of the part which is the second half of the part then complaining about the quality of said part even though they've dropped it before the best part of the part even starts is bullshit.

>>145711664
That I can agree is dumb yeah.

>>145711615
Not him,But it in the west Part 4 (with part 7) is generally the best in the fan polls.

>>145711658

I'm not saying they should cut down ALL of the comedic/filler stands, but towards the end it just becomes insufferable. I don't want to see a retarded stand user try to kill a baby Polnareff when Dio's mansion is right around the corner.

>>145708813
The manga is just as bad, stop lyong to yourself.

>>145711697
He's right,You can't say that cinderella or Italian food were better in the anime.

>>145711691
Who decides what gets cut then. This is the fundamental issue with JoJo. Every stand fight builds up the characters little by little.

This is why the OVA didn't work, you can't just have the characters warp from cool fight to cool fight. Each squad member develops in different ways. That's true throughout almost all JoJo parts post 2

>>145711658
It's only because SDC's fights are among the worst in the series and are the worst stand fights.

>>145708630
VA change happened and basically Jojo

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>>145711584
Shut up, Aya.

>>145711735

Not really, there are fights which are just pure shit gags or action and no one gets any development. ((See: Anubis, Lovers, Set, Wheel of fortune and Strength))

>>145708771
After the next 5 episodes granted David doesn't fuck it up part 4 is going to become a lot of people's favourites.

>>145711857
Anubis was pretty based

>>145711584
p h e w

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>>145708710
>>145708771
>>145709239
>>145709315
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>>145710459
>>145711489
>>145711567
>>145711615
>All these faggots who don't want to live a quiet life.

>>145711881

Eh, it was clear how it was going to end from the start, and we didn't really learn anything new about Polnareff, it was already clear that he was 'the sword master' guy even before this ep.

>>145711857
>there are fights which are just comedy or action
wow. what are these magical stand fights in jojo that meet your requirements?
inb4 you don't name any because all JoJo fights are basically just a blend of comedy and action.

Also Anubis is a fantastic multi-stage fight with probably the most famous Polnareff/Jotaro team-up.

>>145711857
But Anubis gave Polnareff development. We found out he can shoot his sword.

>>145711903
Jojo is good, but you should probably stop flogging the dead horse which is this crusty old meme

>>145711929
Oh I'm not saying it moved any of the characters forward, it was just a great fight which is rare for part 3 as it's bland as shit for most of it especially before they get to Egypt.

For all the shit part 5 gets, and aside from translation and scan shit is justified (like the lack break neck pace of the entire part with no down time), characters progress pretty much every fight. Even the enemies develop well. The train fight alone blows the almost the entirety of part 3 out of the water.

>>145711937

No need to get so worked up, all I'm saying is that there were definitely some weaker fights towards the back end of the series that could have been cut to tighten up the pace a little.

I'm not saying my opinion is the expert one, but I imagine the anime could have been tweaked a little so it feels less bloated.

>>145712065
i get you but it wouldn't work.

Jojo's been messed up by people 'tweaking' it before, all it needs it an animated manga. If that drives fans away oh well, it's for the greater good of a proper adaption.

Is it just me or did Jojos get ruthless after Part 4? Not saying they pulled punches before but they start going for the kill.

>>145712263
the villians stop being family, like dio, or kind of weird but charming supermen like the pillar men

the villians become a lot more nasty so the jojos follow suit.

I haven't enjoyed JoJo as much as Part 4.

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Part 4 has too much irrelevant crud, it's like the pointless stand of the week episodes in 3, except that those were at least a bit exciting. Friday's episode was completely fucking pointless.

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>>145708630
Part 4 is mostly filler up until the main villain is revealed.
Main villain has one of the best stands too imo

>>145712263

Well yeah, part 5 is a huge gang war, part 6 is in a prison, and part 7 is a 'no rules' race in the middle of nowhere for the most part, they didn't really have the time to mess around and 'knock the bad guy out' like in part 3 or befriend them in part 4.

>>145708630
The plot starts on Friday, anon.

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>>145712313

> Fridays episode was completely fucking pointless.

Except it introduced a very plot important character, even if it was in a silly way.

>>145712376
The introduction could have been compressed into a few minutes. Fuck wasting a whole episode.

>Filler
>Pointless
This has always been Jojo. Abandon ship, plot junkies.

I bet you'll hate Grateful Dead and Beach Boy.

>>145712423
>Oh hey a new stand user.
>my stand is switching faces
>Okay that's cool bye

Ok so I'm the girl that skipped parts 1,2 and 6. I'm reading 1 now, I like Jonathan he seems like a cool guy but why is dio such a dick to him? He's just trying to be his bro but he won't have any of it.

>>145712423
Do you not understand the concept of pacing? Are you the type that reads plot summaries instead of actually reading/watching something?

>>145712487
Damn this is either strong bait I'm biting on now or you really don't understand Dio's character

>>145712313
I liked it. A bunch of weird shit is happening but it's in the middle of characters' everyday lives.

>>145712529
I get he's a victim of his surroundings but Damn he's such a dick. Poor Jonathan just wants to be his friend, there was like 0 reason for kicking Danny.

Other than being outdated I guess it's ok part 1 I mean.

>>145712592
>there was like 0 reason for kicking Danny.
Dio just really doesn't like dogs.

Also his entire reason for putting Johnathan down is to make himself look better in the eyes of everyone, including George so he can get that sweet sweet inheritance money.

But Dio's always been a natural dick, even if he wasn't in the slums. Even Speedwagon knows that.

>>145712632
So it's pretty drama filled and that's ok I guess but this part is hamon only no stands right? Fuck this is gonna be boring as fuck.

>>145712487
weird bait, no one's gonna get mad

>>145712680
It's always bait with you people. I'm trying to read it bit this is weak stuff I'd rather just reread part 7.

>>145712313
>>145712376
And also tell us what happened to the extreme feelings of yukako.
People may not see this but most of the part 4 episodes serves a purpose somehow

>>145712712
Then do it. Nobody said you had to read it. You clearly had no qualms not reading it before. Going into something you know you won't enjoy is retarded.

>>145712305
Same here. I thought Part 3 was incredibly tedious for the most part and only revived my interest once the crew got to Dio's mansion, and even then I thought Vanilla Ice and Petshop were much better fights that the final showdown that had been hyped up since the beginning of the show.

Part 4 Stands are in my opinion much more creative and the users more memorable. I also greatly appreciate the fact that the majority of them seem to be complete nutjobs (some of them having visibly no qualms about murdering their opponents in the nastiest ways), which creates a nice contrast with a low-scale setting like Morioh Town.

Add to that the fact that I adore Josuke's character and how well he and Okuyasu get along and here you go: DiU became my favorite part since Battle Tendency.

>>145712756
>Read the mango!
>Reeeeeeeeee you can't have opinions you skipped parts!
>don't read it if you don't want to.

I don't even know why I'm here anymore tbqh. I'm just gonna drop it fuck this part I'll try 2.

>>145712816
Sorry different people told you different things.

>>145712712
>it's always bait with you people when i post my absurd comments to try and get attention

>>145712865
It's not absurd it's a fact part 1 is the weakest part.

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>>145712816
this desu senpai wise choice.

probably best to drop it and fuck on out this thread

>>145712906
Yeah fuck this gay general I'm just gonna enjoy my favorite parts fuck the rest.

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>>145712946
great. enjoy. just stop posting your moronic opinions on 4chan.

>>145712987
>moronic
>4chan
Pick both senpai.

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>>145713005
>heres my dumb bait opinion
>wow that's dumb
>oh yeah well i'm gonna leave
>ok
>well yeah i'm gonna leave just watch

All you animeonly can go to die

>>145713066
>There's literally only one person in 4chan.

Just stop replying faggot.

>>145713066
Not them but 4chan does have plenty of moronic opinions and plenty of people who can't understand characters or how a story works/doesn't need to jam "PLOT" down your fucking throat to be entertaining.

>>145708630
Main antagonist will fully show up this week.

>>145713131
It doesn't even matter. If they have this problem already, they're going to hate a bunch of episodes later on. Boy 2 Man, Superfly, Cheap Trick, Highway Star, Enigma are all going to piss them off because it has nothing to do with the Yoshikage Kira case.

I think Part 4 does the best job of making all the side characters relevant in some way.

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Quick, while /a/ is still asleep.
Post best girl.

But we have yet to see how and why Josuke traveled back in time to push the car out of the snow.

And Rohan avenging the girl that saved his life in an epic battle against Kira.

Something tells me part 4 is going to be a masterpiece.

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>>145710459

>>145713478
>But we have yet to see how and why Josuke traveled back in time to push the car out of the snow.
It was just a guy with the same hair.

>>145708771
Part 1 was really good. I liked how manlly it was, how personal the conflict was and it's really fun overall (jonathan is my favourite jojo)
Part 2 was also a good time. I loved the indiana jones style adventure, the side characters were fun and the fight between Wammu and Joseph was pure gold.
Part 3 was kinda bad. The stands were not that interesting, the villain of the week formula got old pretty fast, the characters acted like dumbasses when the plot called for it etc. Some fights were intense and fun, the teath scenes were really sad and the DIO fight was okay (i loved the DIO fight in the 90's ova tho)
Part 4 was mediocre with a lot of plotholes, underdeveloped characters and boring villain of the week fights. I liked Kira, but thats about it.
Part 5 was kinda good. The villain of the week fights are really boring here, but the plot is interesting, the powers are creative and the characters are fun.
Part 6 is quite possibly the best part. It is intense, hardcore and interesting. There is more story here than in previous parts, there is little downtime, there is always a feeling of urgency. The stand abilities are whacky and bizarre. The villain is great, the jojo is great and they have a really great rivalry going on. And the ending, while a mindfuck, is still pretty creative and new.

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>>145713739
interesting, diverse taste anon nice.

>>145708630
Just wait until next week faggot.

Why did you make this a new thread?

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>>145711960
Here is your (You), be on your way now child.

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Koichi's Bizarre Adventure

>>145713537
>He isn't up to date
Read the manga, chump

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It's because this fucking bitch exists.

part 4 is literally better without him

>>145714761
>constantly grabs all the attention in the scene and makes it all about him
>fucking useless for most of the plot 'but he gets there in the end'
>first and stands are cool and unique, third is awful with a completely dull power
>everyone falls over themselves over how 'cool' he is
>gets a ridiculously hot girlfriend
>at the climax of the climas Jotaro praises him over fucking Jouske or Rohan the real mvps

I'd prefer Fatty desu.

>>145713227
Yeah but that has to do with kira's dad and kira arcs are intertwined in between the fights. The fights also get much better and more fast paced. Highway star and cheap trick are GOAT.

Kill yourself animeonly fag.

>right now

Haven't you watched Stardust Crusaders? 44 episodes could've been described with "and they traveled to Cairo while DIO sent some fags to kill em"

Part 4 is much more clever. First half estabilishes the character, the second one has a plot. I don't want to spoil it for you, but

There's a main antagonist.

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>>145714761
>It's another Koichi episode

>there are people who don't like part 4

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>>145717742

> There are people who actually dislike any part

When is fatty getting killed?

>>145717887
________soon