How does /a/ feel about Gundam Seed? Despite the horridly abundant

>>145651207
worst Gundam series. I really like its World War 2 ambiance tho but its just so gay like it's aimed for girls or smthng

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It made Normalfags unable to tolerate Hiraiface and thus saved many fun and interesting shows from the cancerous infestation and ruination by that blight.

It's not a good show at all, but god bless it for it protecting good shows from retards.

>>145651207
SEED is okay, Destiny is trash.

>>145651207
It's not that bad, at least the first season.

I like it more than the more recent AUs if only by virtue of the suits alone.

>>145651207
I liked it even though it wasn't anything amazing, I belive most of the worse hate it gets is retroactively from Destiny, which is as much of a abomination as people make it out to be.

>>145651207
It was decent.

The romance was trash, the stock footage was trash, Jesus Yamato's return was trash, but the mechas were cool, and the story was alright.

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>>145651207
Cagalli was cute

>>145651207
It's garbage on so many levels— but it was pioneering as retooling the franchise to target the fujo demographic, and it saved the franchise and paved the way for the dark and terrible bastion of stupid that gundam has become.

It's the worst parts of shoujo forced drama bullshit delivered with the trappings of an old 80s shonen series. Character motivations are either laughably one-dimensional (I will blindly hold a frothing hate them forever and ever because they are [trait]), or their actions are dominated by the their most immediate and superficial emotions. That's not even counting the frequent use of complete asspull writing that somehow managed to make the franchise's predecessors, never a bastion of reason, seem downright logical and grounded.

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>>145651207

Easily the worst series in all of Gundam. Even G-Gundam is less retarded than SEED or especially SEED: Destiny.

SEED was the definition of average.

Destiny was actually pretty thrilling up until it shit the bed in its last quarter. I went into it thinking that it would be a twist-an-episode trainwreck like Valvrave but it didn't get bad until later on. Durandal was a much better villain than the Char clone in SEED.

>>145651418
Conversely, it also protected normalfags from the horrors of Olynssis and the Linebarrels anime.

>>145651207
Well, I like that it spawned the strike freedom in 'seed destiny'. It's my favorite Gundam in terms of aesthetics.

Only gundam thread up, and since its about seed, i know its a waste. So i thought i would ask here.

Whats the diffrence between Thunderbolt ONA and Thunderbolt December Sky?

Is it just a recut or a butchering?

>This piece of garbage was a massive success
>Yet Turn A was mostly ignored in it's time

>>145652857
Are there any webms or videos with the worst scenes of Seed? I'm kinda curios on how bad are some of the scenes but don't want to download a shitty anime just for this.

Is Gundam any actually any good or is it simply giant robot porn?

I just couldn't get invested in any of the characters. It's a really bland show.

>>145651207
7/10, better than the shit okada hacked up on IBO. Also, IBO a shit.

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>>145651207
>The show really started to shine in the second half when it stopped being a lesser clone of 0079
This was SEED's biggest mistake. It was completely fine when it stole from 0079 but when the training wheels came off the writing went to complete ass. The quality descends rapidly after Kira's "death" and it keeps getting worse and worse. Mechs are good tho.

>>145659522
You won't get the full picture of how shit SEED is unless you actually watch it but this is really funny and stupid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWjfbUfcJUM

>>145659262
Turn A didn't have flashy new (at the time) digital animation and dumb melodrama.

>>145660101
Why wont Okawara learn to draw?

>>145651691
The best

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>>145651691
Shame they turned her into an unlikable bitch in Destiny.

Despite how little respect I have for it, I have an absolutely inexplicable fondness for SEED.
Strike Justice felt so monstrous and the stupidly dramatic bits like whats-her-face confronting Kira after he lets her boyfriend die were oddly delicious.
Kira-Arthrun was always a fun rivalry too, as devoid of substance as it was.

I dunno, I get the appeal.

>>145660101
Hoshi Souichiro sells that tripe pretty well.
Can't fault the man.

>>145660101
Some of the MS were pretty cool, shame that the animation was recycled and lazy all the time..

>>145655517
The movie has added scenes

Lazy animation and overpowered MC Yamato. Destiny was even worse

After the disaster that IBO was SEED actually doesn't look that bad.

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>>145651207
>stopped being a lesser clone of 0079

>>145666328
How bad was IBO?

>>145666328
What happened?

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>>145666436
It's an extremely promising series up until episode 7. From episode 8 onwards it stumbles and starts rolling downhill, and by the end of the Brewers arc becomes irredeemable. The characters are mind-numbingly flat, especially Kudelia who we're supposedly meant to view as someone who changes through the show despite her staying the same throughout. Mika is so dull he makes Eggs from A.Z look like a developed character. The only character we ever get any reason to root for is Gaelio, the local Garma. The writing is filled with exposition, repeating the same things multiple times and characters always saying their intentions regardless of whether it fits the scene or not (most likely due to the backlash to G-Reco's lack of exposition and somewhat overt reliance on show, don't tell). The pacing is guts-on-a-boat level, the action sometimes devolves into YEAAAAART, although there are some cases where the fighting is nice in creative, but I only remember them from the aforementioned 1-7 episode stretch. The MS designs are great though.
The worst thing is, I wouldn't be as mad about the show if I hated it for the sake of hating it. But I genuinely loved the start and defended it in the threads on both /a/ and /m/ when people complained about the pacing.
tl;dr Broken hopes and shattered dreams is what's bad about IBO

>>145666934
Damn.
The premise seemed promising, so I'd definitely planned on enjoying it in a couple months.

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>>145667652
Watch it anyway, then join us for S2's threads. Should be a marked improvement since Kudelia's going to stay on Earth and hopefully never be seen or heard from again while Tekkadan goes back into space.

Obviously flawed, but I still quite enjoyed it. Even Destiny.

I suspect watching it at the same time Aldnoah part 2 was airing helped make Destiny look much better in comparison.

Easily the worst Gundam series I watched. SEED had potential but it ends up wasted. LOL SEED Destiny was just pure unadulterated garbage especially when the main character role gets usurped by Kira that I didn't bother finishing it.

It was a miracle that the series was popular enough that Kira and Lacus was a consist presence of the character popularity polls in Newtype for over a DECADE.

The only good about SEED was the OP/ED music. The music was great. TM Revolution and Nami Tamaki delivered some great songs for the series.

It's pretty bad, but I do not agree with it as worst Gundam series. That title belongs to AGE.

>>145670640
I agree. Just finished AGE a couple weeks ago and it was okay on Gen 1 and it was getting better on Gen 2, but then Gen 3 starts and all goes straight to shit. The pacing was atrocious. Fucking Level 5.

>>145651207
Incredibly average, now Seed Destiny, that's a piece of shit that has horror stories of its clusterfuck of a production.

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>>145651207
>despite the villains becoming a little cartoonishly evil.
Reminder that Full Frontal was also driven by muh nihilism.

>>145651691
>You will never have a cute tomboy sister
why live?

>>145659262
Turn A was comfy, though it sort of got stupid in the end because the crew remembered that since it's a mecha show they need a flashy and big final conflict.

>>145659603
Just watch 0079, Zeta, 8th MS, War in the pocket, Igloo if you can stand CG, Stardust Memories, ZZ, Char's Counterattack and Unicorn.

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>>145651207
It was very in the middle of the road to me. Like i wouldn't go out of my way to watch it, but I didn't hate it.

Destiny is such an amazing clusterfuck that it makes the first show look much worse than it actually is.

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>>145651207
It's great.

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Name a better Gundam design

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>>145671438
Easy.

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>>145671240
>Unicorn

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>>145654870
>Linebarrel
>Hiraiface
I actually don't see it.

>>145671438
>>145671511
I want to see rule 34 of them together.

>>145671438
Strike freedom

As bad as SEED was, at least it resulted in Stargazer.

>>145671431
Post the rest.

>>145671255
Destiny was such a mess. SeeD is a guilty pleasure of mine, but just thinking about destiny makes me want to hurt myself

>>145671807
That's the only one I have.

>>145671689
There are many good things about Seed.
Blue cosmos, druggies, Mwu and Rau, tiddies captain and her actually competent vice captain, mecha/vehicle design and more.

Anyone have that image of a Super Robot Wars game where everyone shits on Jesus Yamato when he shows up in a fight?