Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1634

>>145637332
>it has been a few years since I went to America.
That would be
>アメリカは数年間行っていない
or
>アメリカから戻ってから数年間が経っている
or something similar.

In Japanese, times take に or no particle at all when they're used as adverbs, to describe when an action takes place or for how long.

数年前から is still valid in other contexts, though. For example 数年前からの手紙, a letter from a few years ago.

スレテーマ　→　https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPF7lit7Z00

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I started reading Ranma 1/2.
It's very easy, but the quality is pretty bad.

It will do for now.

>>145638365
i like when the boy gets boobs

also im still partial to my dx7

What are some good untranslated games (besides VNs)?

>>145638839
Just play Tales of Destiny PS2 like I told you to.

>>145638950
thats basically a vn maybe he doesnt want to play a text heavy game

山田さんがアメリカの大学を卒業してから５年になりました。

>>145638950
Eh I just asked again because yours was the only reply. I'd like to look at my options, you know?

>>145638839
ハースストーン

>>145638839
>>>/jp/15655756

>>145639117
Nice reading comprehension.

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>>145639037
やまだは大学をでてからはたらいてないの？

>>145639044
I could think of some 3DS games too, like dragon quest or detective pikachu.
But I don't know if you own a Japanese or hacked 3DS.

>>145639129
Oh shit my bad.
I only ever play VNs and a handful of games.
I doubt you'd be interested but I liked to play Hyperdimension Neptunia in Japanese.

>>145639211
Not that guy but any recs?
I'm currently playing DQ7 and have Metal Max 4, GameCenter CX 3 or whatever, Time Travelers, and Detective Pikachu.

>>145638839
ミラノのアルバイト

>>145639606
I also played Fire Emblem: IF, Pokemon ORAS and Bravely Second.
I also tried some of the free demos in the E-shop. like the new Etrian Odyssey.
SMT:IV Apocalypse is probably good but I haven't played it.

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If I learn to read and speak Japanese from computer resources (anki, Tae Kim, VN's, manga), how am I eventually going to be able to write in Japanese?

Should I learn to read/listen/speak in Japanese first and then go back and learn stroke order for every kanji/kana, or should I somehow try to learn it side-by-side?

>>145640091
It's really hard to learn japanese without accidentally learning how to write the kana.

For kanji, you can do a crash course for a week when you're fluent, and spend a hell of a lot less time on it than if you learned writing on the way there, because you're way less misguided.

>>145640091
you don't need writing

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>>145638950
>Tales of Destiny

Fuck that. Play the superior, best Tales game instead.

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>>145640149
Here we fucking go

>>145640205
As soon as they make a ps3 emulator.

>>145640261
>ps3 emulator

You can just get a used PS3 for less than a $100 you know

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>>145640205
Well, there is a fan translation and an Xbox version, so untranslated doesn't really count.

>>145640327
>Scamco

To the Anki haters...

You. Yes, you. The one screaming, "It's a waste of time!" and DJT lied to you!" and other slurs I dare not mention.

Tread lightly.

You are one. We are hundreds, thousands. Millions. You aren't just IN the minority; you ARE the minority. I don't feel awkward or anxious using Anki around others, and your words don't affect me. Many others, however, are coming out of their shells for the first time in their lives. This is the first time many are enjoying the beautiful world of studying Japanese language which has been made easy for them - and it IS beautiful. Incredibly so. DON'T ruin this for them. Anki fans may have their differences, they we will not hesitate to come to the aid of their fellow learners, especially against someone who so virulently slurs that which has brought us all together.

Don't take this the wrong way. I don't hate you. I don't fear you.

I pity you.

I'm sorry that you feel this way towards us. I'm sorry that Anki is such a bane to your existence. And I'm sorry that you are missing out on such a wonderful learning too. Mostly, though, I'm sorry that you feel the need to go around and publicly chastise and berate others. I'm sorry that, to ensure your own validity, you need to make others feel invalid. I'm sorry that your self-worth is so infinitesimally miniscule that you have to make others feel less-than-human, at least in your own denatured mind, just to feel whole. I am truly sorry that day-in and day-out you have to put up with your worthless, meaningless, Shakespearean tragedy of a life.

I ask you politely to cease your unnecessary cries for attention, and instead invite you to join our ranks. Uninstall your childish anime porn games, start up Anki and breathe in the splendour and the amazement of your first batch of cards, and then, maybe, just maybe, you'll see what you've been so hopelessly searching for this whole time.

>>145640207
who is this

>>145640314
That's pretty good money. I would rather just play something else for free.

>>145640140

>without accidentally learning how to write the kana

What did you mean by this?

>>145640651
Even if you don't try, the time and exposure it takes to learn japanese means that there's an unreasonably good chance you'll end up learning how to write the kana and a few simple kanji. Just because.

>>145640651
He's full of shit. Don't worry, you won't learn how to write even the kana no matter how good you're at reading.

>>145640735

That's true, but it'd be pretty statistically impossible to correctly learn the stroke order for every kana just by reading. After being able to read proficiently, I'm sure I'll be able to remember each kana and draw it, but not with correct stroke order.

And then kanji, that's a different story. You mentioned it'd take a week to learn stroke order for most kanji? I was thinking more like an entire year with pretty serious studying after I become proficient in the language

Will I have problems if I learn kanji only in writing but not in speech? Only need it for reading right now but I'd want to learn to speak and write some day.

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ねつが３６度９分だよ

せきもでるけどげんきだよ

>>145640851
I don't mean with perfect stroke order, but I do mean sensibly. For example, I still write あ with the first stroke last. That's an incorrect order, but it's still sensible. The same is true of all the other devious stroke orders I picked up.

You'd have to intentionally learn incorrect stroke orders, or willfully ignore the whims of your stationery, in order to learn totally insensibly stroke orders for the kana. You'd have to be very unlucky, or try really hard, to not notice or hear the overarching general approximate guidelines there are to stroke order, for basic kanji, too. It just takes too long to acquire the language, with too much exposure to the community at large. That's why a week crash course would work.

>>145640909
ざまぁｗｗｗｗｗ

>>145640891
No, learning to speak in kanjis is absolutely necessary to learning nipponesian.

What retention percentage should I am for if I'm doing 20 new cards and approximately 200 reviews a day?

>>145640205
Someday I will play this.

>>145641055
You don't aim for a retention percentage, you accept a retention percentage.

>回答
>解答

What is the difference?

>>145641176
OK, in other words, what is a good retention percentage for 20 new cards and 200 reviews?

>>145641253
Anything above 75% is acceptable, anything above 60% means you're learning, anything 50% or lower means that anki is basically wasting most of your time spent on it

>>145641253
95%

>>145641229
回答 かいとう 質問・要求などに答えること。また、その答え。
解答 かいとう 問題を解いて答えを出すこと。また、その答え。

>>145641008
I know, but I'm not going to be speaking right now. I'm focusing on learning kanji and grammar so I can be ready as I can for P5. Once I know grammar I can just use a dictionary. Problem is I can recognize kanjis meaning by sight, but I couldn't say the kanji. If I then try to learn the pronunciation later will it be very hard?

>>145641281
>>145641284
>85-90%
Guess I'm good then, thanks.

>>145641334
>If I then try to learn the pronunciation later will it be very hard?
only if you invent a fictional reading and repeat it your head every time like an idiot

>>145641430
I invented a fictional writing system, does that count

not him btw

>>145641430
Nah, it's just a mnemonic to help and the meaning in English. Don't know how to say a lot of kanji.

>>145641566
only if you disguise it as a font question and fool /djt/ with it

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おうどんたべたい

あせでべとべときがえたい

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>>145641728

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Can I get a sauce on this Kanji?

>>145641728
haven't thought of that

is that what happened here >>145641812

>>145641848
面 you idiot
go back and do your drillbooks over again

>>145641902
How's your communism mug doing?

>>145641281

>anything 50% or lower means that anki is basically wasting most of your time spent on it

So if you are around 50%, does this mean you're not studying with anki the right way and need to change your approach to learning with it? Or does it mean you should lower your new words/day count?

Or does it just mean you suck and should kill yourself?

>>145643954
>Or does it just mean you suck and should kill yourself?
This

>tried to read coppelion a few years ago
>couldn't understand shit
>headache from trying to figure out what was happening
>gave up after 1 volume
>probably took me 8 hours to get through it

>tried reading it again today
>no dictionary look ups at all
>understand everything
>read 4 volumes so far at 90 minutes per volume

>tfw i stuck with it and actually became fluent

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>>145641938
Instead of reading manga for babies, you should read some about bitches being bitches

Why isn't Hanahira in the list anymore?
https://tlwiki.org/?title=VN/Eroge_Script_sizes

I wanted to know how many unique Kanji it has.

>>145644126
all you need to know is that 1 girl was preg as fuck

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If you can't read this, you will never get a job in Japan

Yes, the bar is low

>>145645594
事務所
What is this, a N5 quizz?

>>145645594
事務所？

>>145645594
sorry i skipped all the useless words and just learned cool shit like 灰燼と化す

ユダヤ人に我がチンチンを投げる

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>the day is almost over
>still haven't done my reps

>>145645945
Good excuse to quit anki and watch anime with all the free time you get

>>145645945
Thanks for reminding me, ファム輩

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All memes, hate and everything aside, how is Wanikani?
I'm not getting it, but has anybody on here actually tried it? Is it any good at all, or is it complete shit like I expected it to be? Is the limit thing I've been hearing about really a thing?

I'm actually really curious.

>>145645945
I always do my reps at 2am two hours before the day is over.

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Did you remember to watch 12 episodes of anime today?

Picture is what I'm watching right now while shitposting here

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>>145645945
Just deleted Anki after attempting the core deck for a week.
My memorization is really, really bad, having to remember 20 or even 10 cards a day is too much. I always do it at the end of the day too, so I feel like shit as I go to sleep when I see the ~50% success rate. I'm not even sure if deleting Anki was the right decision, but I was too pissed off at the time to care about it.

Guess I'll try and learn the vocabulary another way..

>>145646200
STOP with the FUCKING stealth marketing you fucking faggot

>>145646200
it's a less customizable anki designed for people who need to experience some sort of sunk cost before they can be motivated to do anything

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>>145646200

>>145646200
Been using it lightly for a few years now. I actually love it.

But then again, I'm trash. Level 10.
>years
>10

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ねつあがってきた

あたまぼーっとする

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Post hanzi grids

>forgot to do my reps in the last 9 months

In a scale of 'there's still hope' to 'kill yourself', how fucked am I?

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>>145647128

>>145647309
what answer exactly are you looking for here or were you trying to be "funney"

>>145647309
Did you watch anime for 9 months? If not, you are fucked

>>145640091
Do drills, write the same character over and over again, like a couple hundred times. But without somebody to give feedback on your stroke order and penmanship you will not advance that fast. Taking a community college course is a good way to learn very solid basics like writing, the first part of any Japanese college course is teaching you the kana and how to write them. Absolutely not worth taking a course if it's not taught by a native though.

>>145647452
There's nothing funny about literally over 9000 reps to do.

>>145647464
I did. Read manga and LNs too.

>>145646200
does anyone here use iptvs?

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>>145647128

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きぶんわるくなってきた

あけそう

>>145647435
what

>>145647996
だから寝たほうがいいってば

>>145646200
It's literally only useful for people that can't learn japanese.

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>>145647128
Haven't touched that deck in half a year. Gotta get back to it soon though.

>>145646373
Reading material and stationery.

Do it the Dutch Missionary Way.

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>average japanese school bullying

>>145646373
>I always do it at the end of the day
The key to Anki is to not be tired. Nap if you need to, just to get enough energy to do Anki and not completely fail at it.

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>>145647128

>>145648821
Can you read without dictionary yet senpai

>>145648994
Not sure I haven't tried yet. I have Yotsuba downloaded though.

>>145640091
minna no nihongo, all of them

The text book might seems like a waste of time (Chink has better jap textbook, but that's only in chink)
Since you're going to waste shitload on Anki, why don't you force thru all 皆の日本語's practices.

and don't fucking ask for resource, i won't fucking spoonfeed "how to get free e textbook"

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http://chatpad.jp
post your bait

>>145649406
i cringed at your japanese, kill yourself

>>145649406
Why did you post this twice

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I'm doing RTK and so far it's been working pretty well but I'm wondering if it's a good idea to keep up the Anki practice of showing the keyword, and thinking of what the kanji looks like in my head. I don't really think visually, so I have a hard time seeing the actual kanji in my head and I usually think of each kanji as a set of radicals and have a hard time remembering their position relative to one another. The book says I shouldn't use the Kanji as the front side of the card but never really explains why. Would I be getting more out of this If I switched to the Kanji at the front? I'm not really planning on writing anyways as my handwriting is terrible.

太陽
大腸

>>145649514
>I have a hard time seeing the actual kanji in my head and I usually think of each kanji as a set of radicals and have a hard time remembering their position relative to one another.
Do you by any chance have an autism spectrum disorder?

>>145649512
>>145649447
一緒にお遊びしようぜ

>>145649514
You do keyword > kanji because the book is to learn how to write. If you want to learn to read you don't need to memorize radicals, in fact its a waste of time because you'll forget it all anyway. That's why Japanese people have no trouble reading or typing, but suck at writing. You just learn by recognition, that's all you need. RTK for recognition is just a wasted 3 months of memorizing shit you'll forget for no advantage.

>>145649538
>>Do you by any chance have an autism spectrum disorder?
How is not being a visual learner autism?

>>145649632
Learning styles is just a meme from the 90s to make people feel better about being retarded. All people learn the same way.

>>145649632
There's no such thing as "visual learner". That's a meme made up by teachers to force their supervisors to stop shoving rote memorization down their students' throats.

Autism spectrum disorders are substantially more common on imageboards than other places. People with ASDs usually have defective memories, with defects in random places and savantlike abilities in others. Not all ASDs make you look retarded or awkward, and they usually go undiagnosed.

>>145640091
>how am I eventually going to be able to write in Japanese?
Try practising for a start. Using a computer doesn't mean you aren't allowed to use a pen and pad of paper.

There are some really good kanji decks in the COR that you can use for specific kanji production practice. It would teach you how to write in the sense of writing like I am typing right now, if I were instead using pen and paper, but it will drastically help you be able to learn and retain the ability to physically produce the script/characters which make up the language.

>>145649686
>All people learn the same way.
No they don't.

>>145649715
>There's no such thing as "visual learner".
Yes there is.

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How hard is it to read through ものべの？

>>145649754
Why ask questions here if you're just going to be stubborn? Are you just here to write a blog?

>>145649715
I don't have autism I just don't recall kanji visibly. I can say what set of radicals are in a kanji, but when I try to see them in my head they are fuzzy. How the fuck does that mean I'm autistic?

>>145649525
The second one has 月 which indicates 'flesh'. Thanks RTK.

>>145649754
Every neurotypical learns the same way.

If you learn differently than most people, you're neurodefective.

This isn't an "individual variation" thing. For example, nonverbal learning disorder is a *disorder*.

>>145649834
Your response doesn't have anything to do with the post you're responding to.

>>145649788
What the fuck, why does a cutout like that exist.

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>>145649834
>How the fuck does that mean I'm autistic?
It doesn't. That's why he asked.

When you ask for help, people will ask you further questions in order to get more information on your situation. People have fragmented understandings of a wide variety of topics, and might not have the right information to give you help with only the information you gave in your original post.

>>145649834
Read what I said here: >>145649626

RTK is for production, not recognition. Reading is recognition. Typing is recognition (you don't write the strokes). RTK is not for recognition. You don't need to memorize radicals for recognition. Just download a vocab deck if you don't care about writing, kanji > meaning/reading. It's easier than it sounds, most people end up doing this one way or another because it's the best way.

>>145649525
太陽
大腰
Fuck me; I don't know the second one.

>>145649886
Why not?

>>145649834
Okay well if you don't have autism then all you can do is power through it or do something else

If you were autistic you could probably invent a ritual to force your brain to make a different type of information out of the arrangement of the radicals, but only autists are used to abusing their memory like that (they need to be able to do it to function at a high level despite their deficits)

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>>145649754
My work history is like an onion.
Layers of information formed by visually learning the entire process of manufacturing, shipping, transport, mechanical, and IT, used in selling a given product wether online or in person.

Throwback to the best 3 weeks(temp job) of last year, working Quality control with MGI International(Jap company) when I just started learning Japanese, Wish I knew more at the time.

>>145649864
>nonverbal learning disorder
>see this
>look it up
>literally my entire life's difficulty makes sense now
brb getting autismbucks

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>>145649788
It's like a 2.6
although it gets significantly harder during one part

>>145649715
>There's no such this as a "visual learner".
Try learning to read and write blindfolded...
Protip: You can't

>look up nonverbal learning disorder

>Make very literal translations
>Asks too many questions
>Imparts the “illusion of competence”

/djt/ in a nutshell

>>145650243
I literally can

一番好きな小説教えてください
Post your favourite LN. I need something to read

>>145650243
If you can't write blindfolded there is something wrong with you.

>>145650266
please explain to me how you plan to receive the information you will learn if you cannot see...

You can't drive, see a computer screen, or even find teacher or mentor to help you. :L

>>145650314
ココロコネクト

>>145650367
Did you know? Blind-from-birth people exist in real life, and they learn how to read braille, and there are even blind typists!

>>14565034
The point of my post is implying that you can't learn new material if you don't use your eyes,
It is a humans most effective way to receive information, more so than touch, audio, or tasting. :L

>>145650422
only with the help of non-blind people, a blind individual may be able to read a language adapted to them on special paper or signs.

>>145650513
Good thing non blind people exist

>a blind individual may be able to read a language adapted to them

And seeing indivuduals may be able to read a language adapted to them, too

>>145649947
So far I've found RTK way more effective for me then just grinding core2k. The stories help solidify a kanji in memory for me, and when I do forget one, remembering the stories is a backup. I almost quit learning japanese just doing core2k, but RTK has been refreshing with the exception of the visual element.

>>145649864
What defines neurotypical then? Just because I don't recall images clearly means I have a disorder? According to the Wikipedia article I also have Dysgraphia because I have shitty handwriting ,and have a disorder related to Spatial Orientation because I get lost easily. Or maybe instead I am just different from other people because literally everyone is different from other people and not everyone thinks the same way.

>>145650549
without non-blind people(visual learners by default)
There wouldn't be any other options to learning.
Anyhow, 日本語は。

>>145650576
>Just because I don't recall images clearly means I have a disorder?
No. You could just have a weakness.
>According to the Wikipedia article I also have Dysgraphia because I have shitty handwriting
That's literally not what dysgraphia means.
>Or maybe instead I am just different from other people
When you're sufficiently different that you can't function properly, that's literally disorder. No, I'm not saying *you* are disordered. But please understand what disorder is. This behavior is unacceptable.

>>145650664
If only blind people existed they would have a different method of storing speech than writing.

The fact that present writing is highly optimized for vision is irrelevant.

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>>145650576
>I also have Dysgraphia
I started that topic up yesterday with my shitty English writing. XD

日本に、俺はなる！

>>145650720
be sure to come back tell me your theory for a non-visual learning system so I can patent it.

>>145650756
no, sir Puppeteer started it by referencing dysgraphia every other day, you just happened to be there
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/dysgraphia/

>>145650819
did you mean speech-storage system

>>145650856
when you find an invention, created by a blind human, for a blind human, that uses nothing learned or made by a visual person.
Please share said invention.

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This anime seems to be all about school bullying. I thought it would be shoujo romance

>>145650930
senpai I think you might be retarded, you're the one that split the conversation into an abstract autismal tirade not me

>>145650975
>subtitles

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can someone explain this to me? I can read it but i'm not sure i'm translating properly as it seems pretty dumb

>>145651050
I figured the visual learners would need them while the blind ones could just feel what was said

>>145651099
>i'm not sure i'm translating properly
Then don't do that. Just read and understand.

If I only use めっちゃ and never use とても, am I kansaiben?

>>145651099
Winkできるgirlにwanted to become

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>>145650794
uwotm8

>>145651237
yea but I'm getting "i wanted to become a winking girl" and that seems retarded

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かぜをひいていても

おなかはすくんだね

>>145651370
Possibly means "I want to be a girl who can wink"?

>>145651405
But why the past form?

>>145651392
かぜならけつにねぎつっこんだほうがいいぞ

ある冷静である男の子。それは私です。

>>145651280
it grows and is ｗｗｗｗｗ

>>145651441
かった

>>145651441
Then I think she's implying something like, "I wanted to be a winking girl... And then I saw what I look like."

>>145651251
no you're teigakureki

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listening comprehension flashcards take a long time

>>145652677
>listening comprehension flashcards
Watch anime

>凛とした声
I'm guessing this means dignified voice, but what exactly is that toshita indicating there?

>>145652677
That sounds like the dumbest thing ever since it would be better to just watch anime and rip the audio to your phone to listen to over and over.

...and then it made me realize the same could be said for reading. Maybe reading actual native material is better than Anki.

>>145652929
Anki is skill building, skill building is a crutch to make acquisition easier. AJATT works but it's more efficient to use your native language to get your foot through the door.

There are alternatives to anki for skill building but it's probably the most efficient way to do it for things that aren't grammar.

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Does your waifu know about your masturbation habits?

>>145653139
How have you not finished that already?

>>145653139
Why jack off when I can cream her dirtstar

>>145652905
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmDYZSlTgsk

>>145653232
I only read like 1-2 hours a day, I'm pretty sure I'm almost done with this route, though.

>>145652905
I would just take it as that is the way it needs to be. Just like you need to add な after certain adjectives before a noun.

Here is someone trying to explain it:
http://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/27389/xとした-usage-and-grammar
I can't believe people think like that -- it seems so unnecessary

>>145652905
凛とする
読み方：りんとする

タリ活用の形容動詞「凛たり」の連用形である「凛と」に、「する」が付いた形。

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>>145653245
やたらながしめのうまいおねえちゃんだね

ちっぱいにきょうかんしないわけにはいかない

>>145653416
Use fucking kanji

>>145653446
Little girls don't know kanji doofus

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>>145653513
please dont remind me :/

>>145653513
They also don't know grammar

>>145653556
I'm pretty sure they don't go to 4chan either

>>145653604
Something is super fishy right now

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It's already 1am and I haven't done anki yet
but I have to

>>145651099

I wanted to become a girl who could wink.

How do I stop myself from adding more new words to anki in the evening because I'm bored after finishing all my anki in the morning

>>145653981
Do something else like study etymology

>>145653981
Study grammar then

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>>145653446
まったくおにいちゃんはむずかしいことをいう

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>>145650046
>being this delusional
I'm pretty sure anyone who sees this cutout in some store would call the police.
The VN itself is alright but an actual physical cutout of a loli? That makes no sense.

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>>145653943

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>>145654197
Makes sense in an ero shop.

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Anki makes me angry sometimes.

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>search こきゅ on Jisho
>First result: "コキュ"
>cuckold
>mfw

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>>145654385
にほんはへいわだね

死ぬほどさむい　

>>145654909
なんで？

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>>145653943
I know the feel, haven't been doing anything for 3 days.
Gonna do alittle while listening to TNP, wish me luck with my attention span.

>>145654851
たばこを吸うな！少女なんかでしょう

>look up グイン・サーガ
>137 volumes

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>>145647128
Hope to hit that sweet 3000 soon.

>>145653981
Talk to a kawaii Japanese grill
http://skypech.com/

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>>145655000
知らないー

>>145655122
>clicky
>noscript goes apeshit

no thanks

>>145654197
It's a physical cut out of a drawing.
Police would laugh their asses off at you.

>>145650065
>invent a ritual to force your brain to make a different type of information out of the arrangement of the radicals
That sounds exactly like RTK to me.

衆 - masses (of people)
道 - road

衆道

>>145655056
凄い。先輩みたいになりたい。
頑張って！
お疲れ様

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>>145655226
>It's a physical cut out of an obscene drawing depicting a child
ftfy
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with lolis, but having something like that in public, in a store, is just

>>145655406
That's a 18+ store, it's not exactly in public.
The store probably have shelves full of games and manga with shit way lewder than a naked kid drawn on them.

>>145655619
オタクもう家から出てくんな

Otaku, Never go out of the house!

>>145655619
if you left your house voluntarily, are you still an オタク tho
an cause vowel, idc if thats bad england

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>>145655822
>>145655888
でもだきまくらはもっているんでしょ？

>>145655888
you're thinking of ひきこもり

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>>145655888
>an cause vowel, idc if thats bad england

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http://kaimansan.blog.fc2.com/
http://jade-hiyoko.com/

>>145655974
'a otaku' sounds wrong to me so i use 'an' even if its not an english word

>>145655909
そのばはいい
だきまくら＝立派なオタクだ

4chanのアノン君もコミケへ行っているかもしれない!

>>145655909
もももも持ってへんわ!

>>145656048
That is the correct way to do it. Whether or not it is an English word has nothing to do with it.

>>145655909
フィギュアなら５０個くらい持つ
だきまくら一丁も持たない

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>>145638221
The DoJG site posted a few days ago that I'm putting together has just been updated and now has all three volumes up and functional.
http://bunpou.neocities.org/

Now I'm going to start working on a table of contents section for the top of each volume page, so concepts can simply be clicked on to go directly to them as opposed to scrolling. Wanted to have the actual content up before doing that, should have been up a day or two ago, my bad.
After the ToC are up for each volume I'm going to start working through converting the note images and adding them to the pages progressively, maybe one a week or something, a bunch at a time. It might take a few months to do them all but I think we can all agree that it will be a lot more useful to have a textual version of the full entries that can be searched and used with rikaisama, etc.

If anyone wants the site in it's current form for whatever personal reasons, I'm uploading it to a mediafile folder here (should be up in a few minutes or so):
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/61ht81b67scct/bunpou.neocities

Where do you guys get manga raws?

>>145656429
ありがとうございます

>>145656444
I just posted two sites
See >>145656047

>>145656402
>一丁

それただすぃい数え方なの
てっきり一枚とかと思った

>>145656444
The CoR, generally.

Is 凝る usually read as こる?

>>145656568
yes

>>145656429
I forgot to add, I'll be adding the converted note images as individual text files in a folder within that mediafire folder, alongside the updated (and current, as an archive) versions of each page, for sake of completion and flexibility.
An anon the other day was suggesting to use javascript to make the images pop up within the page dynamically, and so if he is around and interesting in doing such a thing, anon can download the site files, alter it in any way desired, and freely host it just like I am, if they like. It's really easy.

>>145656429
So why do you make a new page if all of the content is already here? http://core6000.neocities.org/dojg/
Like what is the difference?

>>145656629
>Like what is the difference?
Have a look and see.

>>145656488
さあ、あてずっぽうだった、一枚は正しいかもしれあい

>>145656488
パンツ一枚
トランクス一丁
日本語は不可思議だね

おまえら、スレで自演したことはあるか？
僕はたくさんある
毎日する

>>145656744
>>145656680
全部間違ってたみたい
http://www.sanabo.com/kazoekata/ct_ma/ma/makura/

>>145656444
I buy them

>>145656836
自分の人生を見直した方がいいと思う

>>145656744
トランクスは一枚だと思う
調べたらフンドシを一枚着けている(着ている)体を"ふんどし一丁"と言う

>>145656836
最低

>>145656877
だって褌を着るとまさに「丁」の形してるじゃねえか！

>>145656850
それは小さい枕を当てはまる
抱枕なら「一人」
嫁だから

>>145656918
そうか
形か

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>>145656934
>抱枕なら「一人」
>嫁だから

なるほど

>>145656836
自演したいなら小説かなんとか書け
掲示板で自演する才能は棒に振る

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>Difficulty
>Easy
>Basic

>Hard
>Advanced

>>145657205
Who are you quoting

>>145657318
http://dekinai.neocities.org/
this right here

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>>145656402
>>145656488
>>145656680
いっぷたさいせいは二次でもだめだよ

ふたりめからどうするの？

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>>145656871
ワートリのスキャンの質は悪すぎるから買わないとな

Do you think it's worth making some form of reverse cards for core 2k, and if so should I double my new cards to make it up to the same number of new words? Anybody tried this?

>>145658421
Production cards for vocab is an immensely bad idea because synonyms, you shouldn't bother.

>>145658484
Mine is set at 10 for over a year, works for me.

>>145658484
Mine is set for 1 hour after I usually wake up so I can finish them if I accidentally fall asleep.

>>145658551
then how do japs learn english?

>>145658421
そんなことより_____しようぜ!

>>145658641
Made me think it/10

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>Want to go to bed
>A Japanese girl on hellotalk keeps sending me audio messages on questions about english
>Her voice is very cute

どうしよ

Thank you for reading my blog post

>>145658634
If you mean using flashcards then they know enough Japanese to know if their answer is synonymous enough to the word they trying to learn to pass.
You don't.

>>145658706
she just wants a free lesson she doesnt care about you as a human being

>>145658839
I don't care about that, that's the entire point of the app.
It's just that her broken english voice is cute and I want to listen to it
But if I listen to it, then she will know I listened to it and didn't respond with some kind of help and I will feel like a dick

>>145658894
use or be used

>>145658924
anon it seems like you have a story you'd like to get off your chest. どうぞ

>>145658484
H-how do I learn Japanese words? I'm at the point where I can basically understand really simple Japanese like what's being said in the image. Dorademoii

Google translate, this shit rikaikun app, zey do nothing.

>>145658894
Listen to it senpai.

>>145659025
どうでもいい or どラでもいい with a random katakana in an otherwise hiragana word, which might it be i wonder

>>145659025
Grind out words with flash cards
People develop their vocabulary from just living.

You don't get that privilege, so you must grind away at cards to develop one.

But words are useless without learning grammar, so make sure you prioritize that before going insane with the vocab.

>>145658484
I usually find my sleep schedule drifting into staying up later and later and I usually correct this by staying up for like 24-30 hours one day and then sleeping for like 12-14 hours to wake up at a normal time. Now that I've started Anki, I'm not really sure how to manage this. Is it advisable to do Anki twice in one "day" (as in twice before you go to sleep), or would it be better to just change skip a day in Anki?

>>145658596
I might change mine to 10 pretty soon I think

>>145659159
>>145658596
Stupid NEETs. I finished my reviews before 10 this morning.

>>145659121
It would be better to sleep like a normal fucking person. I'm a total NEET, but literally all you have to do is go bed when you get tired and not wake up with an alarm like a dumb piece of shit.

>>145658894
「きみのエロい声をオカズにしたことのおかげで俺やっと抜けた」
と返事して

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>>145659201
仕事をください

>>145659268
>go bed when you get tired
HA. not that anon but damn, If only it were that simple

>>145659300
はずっ

>>145659121
>>145659268
>>145659324
Just get some consistency going instead. If you find the amount of sleep that's right for you, you can go to bed around the same time every night, and wake up around the same time every morning.

>>145659087
>People develop their vocabulary from just living.
>You don't get that privilege
Is he an undead?

>>145659201
I work nights so it makes sense to me.

>>145659087
no matter what part of the balloon you squeeze you will still be deficient unless you just emigrate to nippon

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http://b.1339.cf/dthcedk.webm

DJT, why does this fat guy talk like this?

It doesn't sound like an accent/personality trait at all, just forced/bad acting.

人はどうして
理由なしで
生きることが
出来ないのだろう

日本語で一番好きな言葉は何？

俺には「明鏡止水」だ

>>145659761
not opening this virus link

>>145659839
Computer illiterate and proud, huh?

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>>145659809
体育座り

>>145655406
>but having something like that in public, in a store, is just
You've never seen porn mags in a store?

>>145659839
Works great, no viruses. (:

>>145659882
am I being computer illiterate for not trusting fishy links and fishy filenames??

you sound like one of those "facebook" generation that trusts and clicks everything

>>145659809
気宇
全部の他は下等です

>>145659761
>It doesn't sound like an accent/personality trait at all
And what qualification do you have to judge what does and what doesn't sound like an accent?
It's pretty obvious why he speaks like that if you pay attention to the fucking show.

>>145659809
遮二無二
かわいいだろう

>>145659950
thanks derek

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>>145660017
>what qualification
None. That's why I'm asking. My judgment is just the reasoning behind my asking.
>It's pretty obvious why
He's fat and otaku, I get it. But I have never seen an otaku talking like that in other media.
Is that a heavy-stereotyped pattern like those from moaning-hissing nerds/crazy doctos from American cartoons? If that's the case, it doesn't fit the show's atmosphere at all, if you pay attention to the fucking show.

Besides, he didn't talk like that on the first 3 or so episodes if you pay attention to the fucking show. So it was a late addition from the VA/production.

>>145659959
It's a pomf clone that's been widely used since pomf went down last year, you dimwit, do you want me to upload a webm to your social network of choice so you can like and share it with your friends?

>>145659809
無月散水

くっ・・・おさまれ俺の左腕・・・

>>145659809
Naruto のキャラクター
うちはカガミ(鏡),うちはシスイ(止水)
の元になったと思われる四字熟語ですね

>>145660217
He talks using 2ch slang is real life to be extra obnoxious, and he did it from the very beginning.

>>145660217
the site may be legit but I have no idea if the webm is
is there a youtube link?

>watching pingu soramimi videos for the past 4 hours

HELP

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>>145660379
Vocabulary, yes.
But does 2ch have a spoken accent? That's what bugs me: http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Scom20qyqO

>>145660484
Yes, anon, you can watch every mainstream and America-licensed anime you want for free on YouTube.

>>145660590
it would be cool if you could upload it unlisted and share the link here, that way it won't be removed from youtube

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>>145659911
体育座りで

パンツみえたなら

わざとみせてるんだよバカ

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>>145660590
笑った

>>145659959
I understand, though. I didn't click the new """"guide"""" link in the OP because it's a virus as well. 気を付けてね

>>145649406
why do people think im female when i use 私-です i thought theyre neutral-formal

im happy that they think im japanese until i reveal that im not though

>>145660837
what are you talking about? i recognize the dekinai meme phrase in that link so i doubt its a virus

>>145660864
because normal boys dont talk like that

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>>145660913
>doubt
No room for doubts, kouhai.

>>145656047
http://www.a-zmanga.net/

What tricks you you use to help memorise cards which DON'T involve mnemonics? So far I've got:
>hear somebody saying the word in your head in a silly voice, preferably in a very simple sentence if you can be sure the grammar is correct
>try to spot and name every radical, and if there is one which you don't know find a stroke order diagram to see what's what. Then draw the whole word on five separate pages of the notebook (so you can't check the shape out of the corner of your eye)
>write down ordered lists related to the word you are learning, for example write down all the days of the week in order, or write down the transitive and intransitive version of the verb next to the transitive and intransitive version of it's opposite.
>try and find an object to demonstrate the word (like namasensei does)

>>145660913
it was a joke

>>145661185
>>try to spot and name every radical, and if there is one which you don't know find a stroke order diagram to see what's what. Then draw the whole word on five separate pages of the notebook (so you can't check the shape out of the corner of your eye)
>>write down ordered lists related to the word you are learning, for example write down all the days of the week in order, or write down the transitive and intransitive version of the verb next to the transitive and intransitive version of it's opposite.
What the FUCK
My "trick" is to keep grinding because failing the same card 10 times would take way less time than all the bullshit you're doing.

>>145661258
I have considered trying that approach, however I worry that if I blast through the cards too fast then they won't get a chance to leave short term memory and then most of them will be gone by tomorrow. Also this approach seems more fun.

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>>145649788
Japan is great

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>>145661480
2/2

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>>145661480
めずらしいの？

>>145661480
>>145661516
や-やめろ！

>word appears I don't know (傅く)
>Japanese LPer I'm watching doesn't know it either

I mean I guess if even a native doesn't know it, it's perfectly fine I don't either right?

>>145661632
No, let's players are scum.
Bet a random English LPer wouldn't know half the words of an English book.

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I thought you couldn't have to を's in a sentence?

>>145662207
Those are two sentences polymerized into one with the use of a comma

>>145662224
I mean the first part, 指を二本を膣に

>>145662207
Don't confuse a sentence and a clause.

>>145662207
>>145662295
It's probably a typo and you can ignore the second を
右手の指を二本膣に押し込んで、・・・

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「このぼく」ってなんて全然わからない。高慢？

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>>145662333
ur fucking me, i did it again

checked

>>145662521
Surely it makes more sense to drop the first を
右手の指二本を膣に押し込んで

>>145662532
>高慢？
当たり前だよ～ん。

>>145662532
そうだ！この俺様が教えてあげるのには感謝したまえ！

>>145662532
この＋代名詞＝厨二度＋２
この＋名前＝厨二度＊２
この＋二つ名＝厨二度＾２

>>145662532
我が許さぬぞ! <- 昔

>>145662675
>＊

ケツ穴？

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>>145662591
>>145662613
>>145662675
>>145662732
わかったわかった！みんなありがとう

>>145662521
>>145662583
I found some guy on some forum say it can be used mutliple times if there's only one verb they refer to so maybe it's okay.