What the fuck is wrong with this guy? Hold me /a/, because I'm

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A lot.

This is a Rem/Ram thread now.

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>>145611298
>What the fuck is wrong with this guy?
Not into lolis. Loyalty to his first love.

>>145611298
First girl is best girl. 99% accepts this since Love Hina.

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>>145611298

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>>145611388
Subaru suffering in bed is just the perfect reaction image.

>>145611298
>Hold me /a/, because I'm going to beat shit out of this stupid faggot.

Do you always want to cuddle before engaging in acts of violence?

>>145611344
Not always true. Everyone knows:
Rem > Emilia
Yuki > Haruhi
Ryou > Nagisa
Nia > Yoko

>>145611298
After reading the manga, I've seen that he has a really good chemistry with EMT. His feelings for her are perfectly natural.

>>145611556
>Nia > Yoko
This is true, the rest are a display of shit taste, sempai.

>>145611298
the author wanted to make torture porn instead of an interesting story with characters or stakes that actually matter

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>>145611337

>>145612274
The story is interesting and Rem isn't even so important overall. Only in this arc.

>>145612274
The novel plot is huge and complex, we have already 6 very long arcs and rem is present only in the first 3.
She is more a plot device than other.

>What the fuck is wrong with this guy?
Everything. What do you expect? He's made to suffer.

>>145611298
I always liked Subaru's character before that retarded Castle Rant. The author should kill himself for killing almost every single piece of good thing that he established earlier. I bet the fucking author likes watching Korean NTR

>>145611298
FUCK YOU DISGUSTING NORMALFAG! I'M SO FUCKING TIRED OF SEEING YOUR KIND SPIT ON SUBARU!

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>>145611298
This was probably the angriest I've ever been over any dumb anime romance.

>ask girl to run away and live with you
>she says how she'd love to, and has already fantasized about it herself, and wants to bang you and spend the rest of your life with you
>you change your mind and reject her even though you're the one who asked her in the first place
>because for some retarded reason you'd rather continue fruitlessly chasing the girl who you've spent way less time with and who doesn't even like you

I hope Emilia rejects him again and everyone lives in misery. If Rem can't be happy then let the whole world burn.

>>145612443
He was getting cocky and he redeemed himself eventually. Give him a chance to get back on the Haafu Erufu's good side.

>>145612443
Oh my. It's your fault for giving too much importance to Rem.

>>145612467
With how big an Emiliafag the author and Subaru are, I'd say you're out of luck.

>>145612467
Pssst. You forgot the part where Rem was the one who rejected his offer to run away.

>>145612467
She rejected him in the first place because she knew he was only running from his fears. This isn't a romance anime, okay?

>>145612508
>>145612516
She rejected his plan of running away but she didn't reject him entirely. She just knew the plan was silly and knew deep down Subaru wasn't the kind to give up, but she clearly would still like to have him for herself without running away to another country.

>>145612547
And just because she wants him for herself and he doesn't want her, well he is stupid? Stop self insert and follow the plot. Rem isn't the main heroine and the whole story isn't about her. It's about Subaru's journey.

>>145612547
Was being rejected part of her plan?

>>145612486
Oh i almost forgot the out of place introduction of Rem's backstory. That was so stupid for a 1st person story. They only added it for the NTR drama

>>145612599
Yes.

>>145612611
Wilhelm will get his soon enough. This is but the first couple arcs of the story, and Emilia's background needs to stay mysterious for a while, as it will probably have a lot to do with Nutella.

>>145612611
Rem dies, more or less. She becomes a plot device more than she is already, this because love in this show is mainly strumental to the plot than other. If we'll get a second season everything will seem more blatant also for you.

>>145612660
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK? That's it, the author is a supreme hack

>>145612676
What are you on about, anon?

>>145612673
She doesn't die and she's coming back, but she's not as central to the story as the third arc might have lead you to believe. Emilia is winning the Subarub Owl unless she sacrifices herself or Subaru does. The story doesn't seem quite that dramatic, however, and the author himself is a major Emiliafag.

>>145612646
Seriously its insane for you investing emotionally so much into a character who plays an active role only in the first 3 arcs of the novel.

>>145612724
If this is a first person story, then it SHOULD act as one. It is better to introduce irrelevant characters's backstories in the form of dialog with the MC

>>145612724
I said more or less. She is in coma. This plot is about Subaru not about Rem and not even about Emilia. Both rem and Emilia could be pawns in the biggest scheme of Satella. Its called a mystery show for one reason.

>>145612800
Emilia is going to be closely tied to Satella, and she appears in all official stuff. The story is about Subaru, but Emilia is the deuteragonist and love interest.

>>145612724
Emilia is also winning because unlike rem, also after she shared a kiss with Subaru, she didn't tell him she loves him yet. Rem would have given her pussy to the MC in few days. She isn't that desiderable.

>>145612825
Yeah of course

>>145612878
What are you even trying to say? I'm all in for Emilia winning and I think it's along those lines, but I cannot fathom what you're trying to convey.

>>145612925
Also after 6 arcs, Emilia didn't tell Subaru she loves him yet. Rem is like an easy prey.

>>145611298
The fuck is wrong with you? 18 straight episodes of Honda being an Emiliafag and you expected him to legitimately jump ship just because of Rem's pep talk? Are you dumber than Suzuki?

>>145611556
But the first girl was Satella

>>145612975
Anon is a slut. More news at 11.

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I want to play with Elsa's bowels.

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>>145612957
Why do you keep ignoring my posts and post as if I were arguing against your post? I'm not. English is clearly not your first language, is it?

I understand that part of what makes Rem popular is that she's a clingy moeblob that is devoted to the self-insert to the point of no return, losing her agency and relieving the readers of the need to put any effort into the thing. I commend Subaru on his perseverance; I'd honestly like that quite a lot.

>>145613086
Emilia a cute!
CUTE!

>>145613086
To be fair she's a maid and never really had any personally agency aside from her sister. Her sister is a big girl and can look after herself but Subaru is a retarded child who gets himself into trouble.

>>145613086
Anon you are the one that thinks I disagree with you or something. I just meant to say Rem is less attractive as love interest to Subaru since she is that blatant about her affection.

>>145613474
I'm not saying you disagree with me, I'm saying you disagree with me; I'm saying you're answering my posts with something completely unrelated to them, which is rather confusing.

>>145613702
You seem really confused indeed.

>>145613842
You cannot quite imagine the extent of my confusion.

>>145611344
Nice bait.

>>145611337
>>145612294
Will Ram replace Karen as /pol/ poster girl?

We all know that Satella is gonne win.

I am just dying because Emilia has supposedly become obsesive with Subaru. We were all shitting at Subaru for being obsessed with her and now it's the other way around.

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>>145611298
He's a fucking faggot, alright. He didn't even take the opportunity to successfully be Priscilla's slave and he didn't even lick her feet. Fuck outta here, Subaru.

Did the novels give any hint why Satella is obsessed with him or why he was brought there?

>>145616939
That's not true, she has a thig for him, but honestly the lad has fought to get on her good side. There was never a more dedicated man to his waifu.

>>145611298
Rem a best
RMT

>>145617684
2/10

Typical moeblobfag taste.

>>145611497
Holy shit, shinji is a now a character archetipe too.
I'm really wondering if anime is actually dead.

>>145617829
Name one thing they have in common outside of suffering.

>>145617782
RMT is better and deserves better
Fuck you and your shitty waifu of an half-devil

>>145618183
>implying I'm an Emiliafag

Emilia's a boring moeblob too. I'm sure you like her as well, faggot.

>>145618183
>>145617829
This is some of the biggest waifuwars on /a/ in a while. I'm all for the half-devil.

>>145618295
>devilfag
Kys

>>145618337
>Kys
Can't do that, I want to see her win, anon.

>>145618373
It is not real after all
Just assume that she won and kill yourself asap

>>145618457
I enjoy life quite a lot to do that.

>>145618506
Then do something about your shit taste and at least accept Rem as your goddess.

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I read his subtitle as "I just love little girls" while also being a fan of Emillia-tan, /a/.

What's wrong with me?

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>>145611298
Emelia
>was rood to him
>questions him all the time
>annoying
>elf scum
>he hasn't even spent that much time with her

Rem
>loyal
>cute
>a maid
>never questions him
>he spent a lot of time with her
>can fight

lole

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>>145618595
Rem is for the weak willed who need a place to lay and rest; Emilia is for those willing to traverse the desert sands with no assistance but their burning love alone.

>>145618798
Based
>>145618859
On a second thought, you just need to kys

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>>145618928
Why are elf-haters so mean?

>>145618798
Since I watched episode 18, I enjoy every moment of Subaru's suffering.

>>145618996
Half-devil.

>>145618996
bc elf scum need to burn

>>145619047
>Since I watched episode 18, I enjoy every moment of Subaru's suffering.
same ngl, subaru has one chance to redeem himself by choosing rem within the next 5 episodes

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>>145611337

YES!

>>145619053

Amin delotha lle, nadorhuan!

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>>145619249
Uh, ónen i-estel edain, ú-chebin estel anim, I suppose.

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>>145619047
But episode 18 was Subaru making Remfags suffer.

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>>145611337
Ram would be a pretty bro-tier sister-in-law.

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>>145611344
Thats a good goy

>>145619736
That's exactly why I started to hate him.

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>>145611298
simply the best

I wanna marry RMT

>>145619828
Emilia is not that mean. Stop that, anon.

>>145619890
But emilia is not being mean there, what are you talking about?

>>145611298
He basically represents all of you fucking nerds, no wonder you guys hate him.

>>145620230
But I think he is better than them. Subaru is good looking at least.

This thread is infiltrated with people from third world countries where English is their second language. I can barely make sense of most of the posts.

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>>145620230
>all of you fucking nerds

>>145621151
Most people on /a/ are ESLs anyway

>>145620230
I would have chosen Rem.

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>>145623284
Literally everyone sane in his head would have chosen Rem.

>>145623741
He didn't change his mind to chase easy game, he's got his eyes set on the big prize. He's not the kind of lad who'd change his heart when someone shows him a little affection.

>>145621151
Welcome to Re:zero fanbase

>>145623741
>I'm done with the fucking suffering! Let's just run away and fuck like rabbits!
>No, you need to be a fucking hero because that's the part of you that gets me off the most
Rem deserves that perpetual second place.

>>145623972
But Rem is superior in every single way, anon.

>>145624262
Not by a long shot, her only charm is being dependant on the MC. She'd have fallen for anyone helping her; Emilia is a most unique and hard to acquire Goddess.

>>145623972
He is retarded. Rem is much better choice, she is loyal, actually understands him, trusts him, loves him and her dream is to literally make his life into peaceful dream.
But instead of choose to fight for some half-devil who doesn't understands him, doesn't want him, doesn't trust him and is part of noble class(he doesn't even fit in here).

>>145624605
That's something virgin like you will never understand. Stick to harem anime.

>>145624605
>doesn't want him, doesn't trust him
Literally wrong.

>doesn't understands him
Engrish aside, neither does Rem--only she's too much of an insecure pushover to mind, plus she knows she can't compete.

>>145624605
>make his life into peaceful dream
Again, he doesn't want a peaceful dream: he wants to save his waifu and the world with it.

>>145612467
Now I know what the saying "misery loves company" comes from.

>>145618859
No, emilia is just boring.

>>145624605 Dude Emilia is a fuckung angel with a nice ass

>>145625156
More of a character than Rem.

>>145624720
>Stick to harem anime.
I hate it. Romantic/erotic themes without actual romantic development and characters ending up together is instant drop for me.

>>145624783
>Literally wrong.
If she trusted him she wouldn't hide everything from him.
She does have a reason to do so, but it doesn't change the fact that she doesn't trust him.

>>145625181
Yes, I liked her a lot. But then Rem appeared and I realized how superior she is. Emilia is still a cutie.

>>145624151
This ∆

>>145625299
>>If she trusted him she wouldn't hide everything from him.
>She does have a reason to do so, but it doesn't change the fact that she doesn't trust him.
She starts trusting him as their relationship develops. She's has an actual personality and doesn't lose her spaghetti over the first lad that treats her nicely.

>>145625299
>Without actual romantic development
>Read : if the MC cements his choice that ISN'T my own.

>>145612443
This. It's why I feel something was fundamentally wrong with ep15-18, along the redemption at the end. A lot of it was Suburu acting like a fucking dick and being egotistical, so it feels hollow when they try to play it off as something sympathetic, with Rem acknowledging him just because muh saviour, when all he did since going to the capital was fucking everything up because muh Emilia.

>>145617829
anime has been dead since 1989

>>145625415
He's a weak willed, self-important faggot. You see him grow along the way. I think this is far better than a Kirito-style MC or someone who acts lukewarm from the get go. He's still learning.

>>145625375
>reading comprehension
I would have dropped Re:Zero if that was the case. I still enjoy it, just not as much as I did in first 18 episodes.

>>145625362
>She starts trusting him as their relationship develops.
I'm pretty sure that will be the case. But for now, she doesn't trust him and is clearly inferior to Rem.

>>145625242
The bland character who does literally nothing, and is a completely clueless person?

It's literally impossible to create a character more bland and boring than emilia.

>>145625598
Who cares about "for now"?

>>145625471
I get that he's that kind of character. I don't mind, heck, even liked it up until that point. I just don't like how the author choose to bring through the narrative of his fall and rise in this arc, and especially in that redemption.

>>145625679
>bland
She's just an introvert.

>>145625598
What's wrong about earning someone's trust and respect? Do you really think it's positive to trust anyone who shows their good side?

>>145625679
>she does nothing
She isn't heavily featured in the arcs we've seen animated, that's all.

>>145625728
>>145625803
All I want to say is that choosing Emilia over Rem was retarded choice. Emilia might turn into perfect girl later, but at the moment of choice Rem was much more promising choice. He went full retard and gambled, but it will probably end up better for him, it's an anime after all.

>>145618798
Emilia
>rational
>nice to everyone
>qt half elf
>high class
>mature
>heals up Subaru every time he gets hurt (literally by his bed every time he wakes up after a fight)
>questions Subaru because he literally disobeyed her multiple times and doesn't even get mad until he starts splerging all over the place
>has a literal god for a pet
>assumed to be powerful as fuck

Rem
>irrational
>obsessive personality
>low class maid
>stereotypical waifu bait
>loli
>cuck
>literally kills Subaru in one of the timelines
>can't even fight off a couple of dogs

>>145626087
He was in love with Emilia before Rem happened, what do you expect?

Also, choosing someone just because they love you is retarded. Emilia's personality is superior.

>>145626087
I think that's subjective. Rem's a good girl, though I do find it upsetting how quick she went from torturing because she thought he was a spy to fantasizing about having children. If she'd considered she might like him it'd have been acceptable, but she went full creep. Emilia has so far shown to be an upstanding girl, caring and strong where it counts, her only downside is that she's not head over heels for him compared to Rem. Subaru himself had shown he really likes Emilia, and changing sides based on who was readily available would've made him a fickle asshat in my eyes.

>>145626452
>her only downside is that she's not head over heels for him compared to Rem
That's not a down side, that's how real girls work anon. They don't instantly fall in love with you just because you're the only guy within a 10 mile radius.

>>145627066
I like it that way, honestly, but most people in these threads and the general fandom consider her sudden devotion a plus.

>>145627066
Real girls are shit.

>>145628791
Real girls are not angelic half-Elf Goddesses, it merely adds to her appeal as a believable qt.

>>145628840
Right.
Real girls are shit.
Rem is unbelievable cute.

>>145625415
>A lot of it was Suburu acting like a fucking dick and being egotistical, so it feels hollow when they try to play it off as something sympathetic, with Rem acknowledging him just because muh saviour, when all he did since going to the capital was fucking everything up because muh Emilia.
>>>145625471 #
have you even watched the episodes or just readt a summery and came her to shitpost?

>>145629008
You can't even quote a post right, anon.

>>145629143
Such a perfect way to avoid the subject. You're like those people who correct someones grammar when you can't form any argument anymore.

Yes, quoted wrong but it is still meant for them both.

>>145629366
Your post contained no arguments: it was a quote with meme arrows and an ad hominem to some other anon.

>>145611298
>>oh no dont beat the shit out of him

>>145614477
Love Hina's logic has lasted for 15 years. Its an acceptable law of the land.

>>145619756
Chink Jew propaganda aside its how it'll work 99% of the time unless worst girl endings start Kannagi/Aya Hirano tier shitstorms.

>>145611298
>We get one of these threads every day and we'll keep getting one after the anime finishes.

>>145620230
>im not a nerd i swear

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Find a flaw.

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>>145611298
Oh I'll hold you alright.

Pic related. It's you and me, I love you.

>>145631114
DELET THIS

>>145624151

>>145631315
Ok, but I'm on the left.
Could you cosplay my waifu too?

>>145630996
One of them is used goods.

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>>145631762
>I-I won't tap that ass because she might have slept with Roswaad before
That sounds pretty gay, senpai.

>>145625784
I'm an introvert and even I have more character than her.

>>145625803
>She isn't heavily featured in the arcs we've seen animated, that's all.
Which is why right now she is completely boring.

literally the only things you can use to describe emila are
>kind, clueless, naive, wants to be queen for some reason
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>145632176
niceme.me
She has shown to have a lot more agency than Rem by far; you could reduce virtually any character's personality to four adjectives.

>>145631114
Would any sane person choose Emilia over Rem?

>>145632552
All's she has shown so far is how boring she is.

>>145632672
Me

>>145611298
>Hold me
Shut the fuck up, enuch monkey nigger. Back to Nisekoi with your faggot kind

>>145632672
The author, Subaru, and me, for starters. Rem is the waifubait for those who want quick gratification.

>>145631114
just shows how much a dumb ass subaru is, get your act together son.


>>mfw the author is actually falseflagging emillia end with his whole EMT EMT.

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>>145632872

>>145632979
Don't get me wrong; Rem is a good girl, but Emilia-tan is just great.

>>145633113
What's so great about Emilia?

>>145632872
>he hasn't realized that emilia is a huge false flag
kek
I almost feel sorry for you guys.

The author said subaru is supposed to be unlikable, hence choosing emilia is also part of that.

>>145632876
I see Subaru's obsession with Emilia to just be a part of his stupid hero complex (he thinks she's the tragic heroine he needs to save so she'll fall for him, since that's how it always works in LNs). Gonna need some more confirmation, though, since you never know if the author actually genuinely thinks his bland main heroine is an interesting character.

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>>145632876
All aboard the False-flag train!
choo- choooooo

>>145633113
Can you even cite a reason why she is great that isn't
>muh cute half devil
?

>>145632672
>implying
No one sane would do it after experiencing all the pain and suffering that Subaru did. Heroes like that doesn't exists in our world, every sane person would choose the safest path instead of risking all this pain for a girl they know for such a short time.

>>145632872
>any sane person
>only lists people confirmed to not be sane

>choosing a fartfaced demon uguu over a hot elf girl

you guys can't be this gay.

>>145611497
this made me kek fuck this guy

>>145633263
there is none, remfags are just stupid memers with subpar human intelligence

STOP BULLYING THE ELF

>Rem sacrifices her life for Subaru several times, two of which result in everyone else forgetting she even existed, one death has her crawl all the way to Subaru to free him before dying in his arms
>Subaru just dies for Emilia several times, Emilia will never do the same for him and if she did he'd die along with everyone else because of Puck

I've always liked Rem over Emilia. Emilia isn't awful, she's just useless

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E M T

>>145630996

One of them has a clown fetish.

Seriously, Ram is fuckin weird.

Must suck to be a rezero fan.

>>145633476
I thought it will be AOTS but now I'm only suffering.

>>145633428
>author points to a big picture of emilia while wearing an emilia shirt
What did he mean by this?

>>145611337
This looks like the Overlord OVA.

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>>145633601

>>145633441
That's a detail anon.

>>145633424
You know how stories always reveal the power level of the most useless character first? That's Rem. Emilia is said to be more powerful than Puck

>>145633768
I'm aware that Emilia is supposed to be one of the three most powerful characters in the story. The other two being the dragon and Reinhard. That doesn't change the fact she's useless in terms of an actual character and character interaction. She's spent four arcs causing Subaru's death. Reinhard is a better character than she is the entire time and he's just obsessed with Felt (for good reason because she had the best speech)

Rem saved Subaru several times, and gets fucked enough the last time that he can't even get a do-over to save her properly so she's comatose and forgotten.

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>>145633441

>Seriously, Ram is fuckin weird.

And that's a problem, because?

>>145633951
>She's spent four arcs causing Subaru's death
She's targeted by the cult though. Also it would be boring as fuck if she just goes super saiyan and obliterates everything that comes her way.

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Subaru would be pretty strong against humanoid enemies if he abused his time loop training with Wilhelm

>>145632979
Thanks for posting best girl.

>>145634308
>boring if she just goes super saiyan
That doesn't mean a character needs to be so useless that she's spent four arcs being hidden away while Subaru dies defending her several times. Even Rem only kills Subaru because she's paranoid and defending Emilia.

He had several deaths to Rem, several to Elsa and those Elsa deaths are entirely because of Roswaal
The cult targets her, sure, and they do a really good job of killing her several times, Rem several times and causing Rem to be killed by the white whale once since it was on course while they tried to make it back, then Rem to be sent into a coma by Ley

She's still yet to ever redeem herself for any of it. She's still the pretty maiden who needs to be protected all the time.

>>145634308

Curious... Emilia gets her ass killed several times, why DOESN'T she go super saiyan against the cultists?

>>145633768
Chuck or what ever is right about emilia.

She lost her emblem to a low level thief, gets killed by someone thats weaker than her and she should have been ready for twice?, can't protect the village near her like ever, her entire mansion gets destroyed and then she dies multiple times. And shes also in a covenent with a spirit that will end the world if she dies.

Like all of this is stupid if you think about how powerful she is, and how powerful she is with puck. At least Reinhard got shit done with his power.

>>145619828
It's been a while i had some good tonguewrestling, Anon.
Apart from this, i have nothing more to contribute, good night.

>>145634377
If he wanted to be on par with higher tier fighters he would have to die about 3000 times. And that would only develop reflexes and footwork, he would still be weak because his body resets.

It makes more sense for him to just learn magic.

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>>145635008
With reflexes and footwork alone he could go a long way with his str,dex build if he dark souls grinded Elsa

>>145618116
Being a homo is one thing they have in common.

>>145634841
Her power is yet to unleash, as she stands she isn't that strong, just a bit above Rem level. Her not saving subaru was due to factors outside of her control--she gets mad when she finds out no one woke her up after healig him all night long in the village.

>>145636028
Her not saving Subaru, ever, isn't a factor out of her control. She outright can't. Rem has done, as has Reinhard, Emilia can't at all. In every fight, the person who can and would kill Subaru is someone who can and probably has killed Emilia. The closest she got to saving Subaru was the last fight against Elsa where she was a distraction before Puck needed to sleep, then Reinhard saved the day anyway. She can't fight against any of the archbishops or even the cult peons. Rem is stronger than she is this whole time. Emilia would have been killed trying to match even Rem's stupid last stand against the beasts in the forest when she was trying to kill as many as possible to release Subaru from the curse. Hence why she sought Roswaal to help them. Rem fought through the cultists, survived Betelgeuse's torture and Unseen Hand long enough to free Subaru, then finally died in his arms.

Emilia's a girl who needs to be protected because she still can't actually do anything. She's carried by Puck and has been so far the entire time, but even Puck can't be on duty 24/7, so she keeps getting killed. If she can't do anything against Betelgeuse, the most sane of archbishops, she really doesn't stand any chance against the Gluttony bishops anytime soon, either

>>145634608
What did Elsa's boss plan to do with the emblem?

>>145611298
lol

Did you listen to anything in this anime

>>145636538
Nothing, Roswaal hired her to manipulate the situation so Subaru and Emilia would meet, so Subaru would be driven to get the emblem back, defend Emilia and end up associated with his mansion

There is something I just can't get passed, because it bothers me more than anything else. I know it is the writing but why doesn't Barasu abuse his Reset by Death power.
Gaining knowledge and magic would be the first things in a logic manner, anyone would do. Even if the gate is broken, learning about the world and how it works is basic.

Look at groundhog day, the guy eventually learn to play the piano. Subaru could do the same as well. Suicide is apparantly ok, as he jumped of the cliff in one of the episodes, so he could kill himself either by hanging or poison or whatever. Or is this like whenever he dies, he loses a part of himself, or something like that.

Is it explained why he ever had his mental breakdown. Ok I get seeing everyone he loved die, but he came back. Any person would take that opportunity to sit down and think about his actions that leads to what. If one route fails, he can always go try another. Instead we got to see him whining and bitching.
And then there was that entire throne room debacle. Why the fuck did he do that? Why the fuck would anyone do that? He made a total mockery out of himself, Emilia and Margrave. Then he shits all over the knights for getting their jobs because they come from wealthy families, forgetting that one of the knights is a friend of his. And after the fight he starts cussing at Emilia who flat out asked him what the fuck was that all about.

I get that he is a NEET who has difficulty with social interactions, but he goes full retard and he treats this world like one of his adventure games, thinking he is the MC, but completely forgets that his actions have consequences, but at the same time forgets that when he gets an unfavorable result though his actions, he could reset and make things right.

>>145636647
The resets make his miasma increase, it could potentially drive him insane.

>>145611298
he's a retard like everyone else in this show

>>145636858
You mean the witch scent they keep telling him about. Ok, now I understand there is a caveat to dying to many times. Because it would same a nice exploit to have when entering a new world.

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>>145636934
Well Subaru is literal autist who keeps thinking this is a game. All the angry outbursts so far have been cringy, never once justified. He is like a kid that does stupid shit, and when told to fuck off, he throws a tantrum.

Subaru did nothing wrong, honestly.

>>145637107
>All the angry outbursts so far have been cringy, never once justified.
How are they not justified?

>>145636375
Why can Puck Freeze the entire world to death when free, but is useless when under contract?

He had to have some ability in between shooting an icicle and murdering everyone within a few miles of him.

>>145611298
>What the fuck is wrong with this guy?
He reminds you too much of yourself.

>>145636647
Every death causes the scent of Satella to grow stronger, just as it does whenever the Unseen Hand grabs his heart. Every death he suffers from, he still feels the pain up to shortly after he snaps back to consciousness after, like when he awoke after his throat was wrecked.

On the subject of his mental breakdown, there are three things. He just saw everyone killed, he got to die to a giant beast he'd never seen before, being frozen with shock on his face before being decapitated. Most importantly, Betelgeuse addressed his madness by calling it fake, an act to seem broken while really he was drowning in self pity.

>>145637107
>Well Subaru is literal autist who keeps thinking this is a game. All the angry outbursts so far have been cringy, never once justified. He is like a kid that does stupid shit, and when told to fuck off, he throws a tantrum.
Somehow, I've never thought about him as a spoiled autistic kid. I got so annoyed by him but now his character makes sense.

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>>145637319
I'm fat, don't train, don't have hero complex and would have chosen Rem.

>>145633689
>Not posting the meme edit

>>145611298
Is he better or worse than Shirou?

>>145633951
>>145634308
Emilia spends 4 arcs being a plot device thats completely devoid of personality or backstory. I get that shes the main heroine and it's all going to come together, but the writers are finishing season 1 with no explanation for anything relating to her.
Subaru has complete faith in her for nothing. It's just not believable that anyone could be this retarded. It's going to work out in the end but as of right now it makes no fucking sense and I hate writers that pull that card.

>>145612467
Do you even watch the episode?
The confession (to Rem) itself is just a bounceback, because Subaru was failed to save Emilia in every alternate timelines.

I've been wondering: When Subaru was in his half-dead state, did Rem wipe his ass?

>>145637679
>Emilia spends 4 arcs being a plot device thats completely devoid of personality or backstory.
She has plenty of personality, but she's onscreen too little. It's only the first arc, only the maids have had their backstory revealed; Wilhelm will soon follow.

>>145637595
I, at least, don't remember Shirou having several "you should be thankful to me" outbursts like Subaru did right before Rem killed him and during his argument with Emilia. Not to mention how he managed to piss off every other character following that because he only sought to take for his cause, no matter what. Even Priscilla called him pathetic.

>>145637688
It's funny, because Rem rejecting that is what leads to a snack for Gluttony. If she had accepted they'd be living in a nice house with two children

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>>145637520
So you're even worse than him?

>>145633951
>for good reason because she had the best speech
>best speech
>fuck you, fuck you too, fuck you and your mother, fuck you all
Oh wow

>>145612467
How did so many people misred this

>>145637776
You guys do aware if Rem accepting Subaru's proposal it means the end of this series right?

>>145637815
>Sure I'm in. But let me just say one thing.
>I hate the nobility! I hate knights! I hate this kingdom! I hate everything about it!
>So I'm planning to tear it all down! How about that?
Compare it to the rest of the speeches.

>>145637913
Wow, no, we definitely didn't think of that. Yes, obviously. The fact is the author even did a "What if?" arc and it showed them living happily ever after. Whereas a result of her rejecting it, she's in a coma, with only Subaru remembering she ever existed

>>145637913
Puck would've frozen their shit to death, anyway, plus Suzuki would've been doomed to be half a man all his life even if he survived.

>>145636641
What?

Subaru arrived literally 5 mins before that happened, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>145637186
Because he knows so goddamn little about the world he lives in. It is like he is playing a game without reading the manual or understanding the controls, and then gets angry and lashes out when something isn't going as he thinks it should.

Remember he lashed out at Rem for killing him. He went on and on about how he tried so hard, but never once thought that maybe his actions were dubious from the start. Strange new guy making overly sure to help with everything.

He lashed out Pretty Knight dude for questioning his declaration for being a knight to Emilia and his motives. He went on to humiliate everyone in the room and then actually fighting an experienced knight.

He lashes out against Capitalist Queen for being too oblivious that he spilled the beans. He should have known by now that all these people have their own motives.

He lashes out at Cruise Missile for doubting his story about the attack and not seeing any benefit in assisting him. He comes up with a story that makes no sense, and when asked, he can't provide any back up.

He lashes out at Emilia for not understanding him, while in this time line he didn't do that much for her.

He lashes out to Reinhard not being around when the guy is a big shot that has a job. He didn't do it in front of him, but he was saying that everyone is useless.

He lashes out at Otto for not remembering Rem. Before they rode out there was mentioning of the whale. He could have asked some info.

He lashes out to people in different timelines when he needs to see each timeline is a separate story. They don't know what happened.

Any normal person. Even NEETs would understand that actions have reactions. If he even once thought to himself that "wait, if I do this or that, what would be the logical outcome" most of his troubles would be gone.

In any Isekai anime this should be the main point. I hate to make this comparison, but in Konosuba the MC atleast thinks before doing something.

>>145611298
Reminder that re zero is the new evangelion in terms of oblivious waifufags warring each other

>>145637789
Yeah, probably. But at least I have a job and good taste in girls.

>>145638134
>good taste in girls

>>145638053
If you don't know the story, don't be surprised that you don't understand. She was hired by Roswaal specifically for that. There's a reason everything on the day he doesn't die lines up like it does, and there's a reason he's told about being an associate of the Roswaal mansion now. There's a reason Roswaal talks to Ram like he does while they watch Emilia and Subaru, and discuss the likelihood of him being a spy and whether they should intervene, which is what sparks Rem. And ultimately, there's a pretty good reason why Roswaal wants to kill the dragon and that'd be his own infatuation. Finally, Roswaal can smell the scent of Satella pretty early, and later works out he can loop with Return by Death

Until Subaru confronts him, Roswaal is not an ally of his, and doesn't even support Emilia

>>145638082
You aren't wrong, but that's kinda the point. He's clearly not thinking straight after Ep 15, that was made obvious when he goes on that rant about killing the cultists. Give him a break, dying takes a toll on him so of course he's not thinking rationally in every situation.

>>145633424
And one of them gets told that just because he fights for her and loves her doesn't mean he gets her pussy.

Why is this so hard to understand?

>>145638393
What? One character fights and dies to defend you. That's Rem. Subaru dies defending Emilia the entire story, risks dying for Rem, and the times he doesn't die, he's at least successful. This is a useful character. Emilia, in none of this, actually achieves anything apart from hiding away. If she dies, the world ends. That isn't useful. It doesn't matter whether she returns his feelings or not, she's useless and has been the entire time so far

>>145637987
That sounds like something ISIS would say.

>>145638263
That still does not explain how the fuck he hired someone to steal from someone else from god knows where he is, 5 minutes after subaru arrived there.

There literally isn't enough time to put anything into motion.

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>>145638470
Emilia saves Subaru's life repeatedly and isn't given the chance to fight the one time Rem does--she was sleeping after spending the whole night healing Subaru, and she gets angry because no one woke her up right afterwards. In the last arc, she simply is away due to MC's bumfuckery, but she left him in a safe place, with the best care she could find for him.

The main difference between the two, aside from screentime thus far is that Emilia isn't head over heels for Subaru, where as Rem is: Emilia makes the lad keep improving and advancing; Rem is the easy choice to fall back on.

>>145638712
He has a book that can cryptically tell the future

>>145638774
Who is this guy? Satella husband?
With puck & him, It seems like Emilia team is the strongest team between 5 king candidates.

>>145638368
The only toll it has is that the scent gets stronger and messes with his mind in the long run. Other than the brief pain of dying, he should know that he will come back. If anyone dies 3 times and comes back the day before or something. You would actually be ok with dying and perhaps analyze what lead to that point when you start anew. Everyone is afraid of dying, because you don't know what happens after, however if you had this ability, after a certain amount of getting killed, you would take death with a grain of salt.

Subaru hasn't been thinking straight since he actually got to this world. He behaves as if this is his big chance to start fresh, and acts as if this world and actions revolve around him the MC. When he starts figuring out that he is basically a side character as much as anyone else is to anyone, he bitches and moans.

The only time I have seen him come up with a logic plan is now when he is attacking the white whale. He gathered intel, used his info wisely and managed to get all pieces working together. He had to die several time for that and I really don't want to see him go through this process all the time. The same shit happened with Rem killing him, before he actually used his brain and the same shit happened when Bowel-chan killed him albeit I forgive him for that because he just started in this new world.

>>145638614
Your other speeches are
>I'm a greedy gal, so I want everything. No amount of commercial success can satisfy me. I want my own nation!
>Should I become the new ruler, I will make the dragon forget the covenant it demanded. The Dragon's Empire of Lugunica belongs not to the dragon, but to us.
>I have only one wish. For all to be equal. I desire to create a nation where all citizens are equal!
>This selection is pointless. I am the one suited to rule this nation! All you need to do is serve me and grovel at my feet.

>>145638888
Roswaal is his own ancestor. He is his female ancestor who keeps possessing every descendant's body to avoid actually dying in an attempt to meet his teacher and one infatuation in this world Echida, Witch of Greed who hates Satella

>>145638888
I don't remember the specifics, but he came back from the time of the Witches and Satella. He was deeply infatuated with one of them, so he used his magic to reincarnate through the years. The reason he wants to kill the Dragon is to unseal his waifu.

>>145638739
This. Rem is the obvious waifufag choice as she falls for the MC at first sight, is head over heels in love with him, is very obvious about it, and is pretty one dimensional in her love.

EMT is a better portrayal of a love interest with her own agency who has other things going on than simply existing revolving around the MC.

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Director, Episode Director, Storyboard Watanabe Masaharu and Composer Suehiro Kenichiro answer a few questions about Re: Zero.

Original here
>http://www.animatetimes.com/news/details.php?id=1469700577

>Subaru is routinely criticized for being “annoying” and “a low life.” Did you set out to draw this response from the viewers?

Watanabe: That and more. Even in the scene where he and Emilia have their fight, I didn’t depict him as just any regular scumbag. The scene was the straw that broke the camel’s back, as it were. Subaru becomes a scumbag with an air of tragedy around him. The song made it very atmospheric. The scene feels satisfying, as if it was long overdue.

Publicity agent: When Subaru jumped into the middle of the royal selection candidates, I instinctively wanted to cover my eyes.

Watanabe: Makes you recall a similarly painful experience of your own.

Suehiro: It sure does. It was very cringe-inducing.

>Emilia and Rem are said to be the heroines of Re:ZERO. Which one of them would you choose?

Watanabe: That’s a tough question. People will get mad at me no matter who I say. But I suppose that Rem’s role in the story is that of a sub-heroine, while Emilia is the main heroine. I directed episode 1 myself and did as much as I could to enhance her presence in the scenes to make up for her lack of screen time. I’d change her outfits and made sure she gave off a strong impression. As far as I’m concerned, the heroine is Emilia, but perhaps nobody will believe me when I say that. After all, Rem clearly acts more like a heroine. But please don’t forget the scenes that showcase Emilia as the heroine.

Suehiro: I liked Rem when I was reading the novel, but when I watched the anime, the director’s experiments paid off. The scenes where Emilia’s outfit changes or when she lets her hair down are forever branded in my head.

Watanabe: Seriously?!

Suehiro: I thought, “Emilia sure is cute. She’s a bona fide heroine.”

>>145639059
But it does only exist to revolve around the MC. Because every single time the MC is removed from the picture, she dies, and then everyone else dies. The one exception is when Rem sacrificed herself to the whale, got forgotten, and Betelgeuse's Sloth order hadn't reached the mansion yet. They didn't arrive until after Subaru fucked up and tried to kill himself with Unseen Hand, and killed Emilia instead because Unseen Hand will only kill him if the person he's trying to confess the power to is stronger than he is

>>145638942
>>145638956
Uh, okay. Thanks.
The source material is not LN right?
Because I want to read it right now.

Anyone have those flying Ram edits?

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>>145639059
>as she falls for the MC at first sight
Sorry, but I can't quite agree on this point. I do agree that she's certainly head over heels as you said, but I kind of think her directness is refreshing. If we're going to claim Rem lacks agency because she's focused on pursuing her love interest, we may as well say the same for Subaru.

>>145639059
>she falls for the MC at first sight
Do people just block out the murders?

>>145639403
The point is, she's quite fast to fall for the MC and her love is unconditional and disproportionate.

>>145638931
At this point he doesn't know if he will come back. He decided early on to value every life. There is an IF chapter of him pretty much grinding every death and it makes him an empty husk. I'm not saying he isn't dumb, because he definitely is, but saying that none of his outbursts are justified is like saying he has no right to complain. He shouldn't lash out, but I understand when he does because he goes through a lot of shit when he doesn't really have to. Plus, it makes for a more interesting story and a more human character, for me at least.

>>145611340
Loli? With that rack? Rem is sexually mature and fair game

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>>145639104
>anime made by emiliafags to make remfags suffer
POTTERY

>>145639375
>>145639462
It really should be obvious, honestly. It took a long time for Rem to fall for Subaru, all things considered. It wasn't until Emilia convinced her he was innocent, while giving him a lap pillow. And even then, it took until he saved her from the beasts and got bitten, then saved her a second time while she was trying to free him from the curse, and fought the giant shaman 1v1 before Roswaal joined in.

All the murders are Rem defending Emilia from the possibility of a Witch's Cult spy after listening in on Roswaal and Ram's conversations, plus the increasingly strong scent of Satella. Subaru risked his life for her twice, plus for her sister and all of the kids in the village. On top of talking her through her insecurities regarding being inferior to her own sister, and her guilt of being thankful Ram lost her horn to the Witch's Cult that night

>>145639375
>but I kind of think her directness is refreshing.
I feel the opposite since there's a harem/waifubait anime every season now where the girls are obsessed with the MC.

>>145617782
Demon that fights and kills and defends love to the death is moeblob? M'kay

>>145639403
The funny thing is that all of the arguments people make against Rem actually describe Subaru better.
>>145639104
>I’d change her outfits and made sure she gave off a strong impression.
Huh. The only strong impression I got from Emilia when I first saw her was just how little of an impression she left on me at all. I did like what little I saw of her personality the first episode, but her attitude changed in later episodes. It just doesn't work for me on any level.
>>145639690
Yeah, but they usually play coy and are too afraid to confess their feelings. Rem doesn't pull that bullshit.

>>145639690
You say that, but Rem isn't the girl most obsessed with the MC from a romantic point of view. She's just the most willing to actually help him, other than Beatrice later on. Yes, she's in love with him, but her love is reasonable and still direct, she's just one of the most loyal and helpful characters to him. The most infatuated with him is Satella whose love for him transcends everything

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>>145639569
>It took a long time for Rem to fall for Subaru
About a week for her; we're talking from torturing him to get information to "Let me have 4 of your kids".

Listen, I'm not saying Rem is not a nice gal, only that Emilia is just as nice and has only been featured less prominently because of plot reasons. When it comes to the real deal, she felt betrayed during the last arc in the capital, and I'd argue that rightfully so; but other than that she's proven she's a selfless girl.

The main difference between the two remains that Rem is the easy to get girl while Emilia has her own world and requires the MC to keep improving and become a better man.

>>145639776
>Yeah, but they usually play coy
Not really. Remember, I'm talking about harems here, not convoluted bullshit like Yahari.

>>145639836
>The main difference between the two remains that Rem is the easy to get girl while Emilia has her own world and requires the MC to keep improving and become a better man.
Yep.

Rem feels like a satellite around Subaru whereas EMT feels like a real person. I kind of hate to make this analogy, but it's like Asuna from SAO whom has her own adventures and stories and feels like someone more than just the Protag's love interest.

>>145639486
Perhaps, but I was hoping this anime would go with a murder/mystery way, where Subaru actually learned to use his brain.

Heck, in every Isekai anime, the MC has some qualities he can put to good use, as they are neet shut in that have been doing the same thing for a long time. His grip strength is 70kg for christ sake.

And really he has no right to complain. In one of his time lines he learned that he smells of the witch. Why hasn't he bothered Beatrice about explaining him what it is, cause it seems a pretty big deal.

After he learned that Rem was killing him because of the scent, he should have used that info the next time and just come clean at the table. He only dies when he talks about his reset ability, but he can still explain that he comes from a different world and explain his story so far. He has the top magician, half elf, librarian and two demons at his disposal to help him, and the only thing he needs to do is ask.

I was glad to see that Betelgeuze saw that his behaviour was just to get attention, because his mental break down came out of nowhere, and was just him running away for nothing.

>>145639932
I detest SAO and both characters are pretty unlike real persons, honestly; but Emilia does feel like she has to be chased, while Rem is the one doing the chasing. I believe it's a matter of whether you want someone to have your back or someone to stand beside you.

>>145639932
Agreed. She has her own worries with the whole election, so she doesn't have time for bullshit behaviour from someone like Subaru, who only makes things worse.

She does admit liking him, but he is pretty useless most of the time.

>>145640072
Asuna feels pretty real to me. Not in the "everyday girl" kind of real, but as in a person. Too many love interests in anime these days have no other quality to them other than being the MC's love interest and Asuna stays away from that pretty well. It may have taken a few novels, but that's how it is.

>>145639836
She doesn't require anything at all, though. Look at how quick she is to agree to a date, even after she learned what a date was. This is only following the Elsa event, which for that timeline, was also the first time they had met. In the ones Subaru went through prior, he met Emilia before meeting Elsa at the shack. Emilia was willing to agree to a date based off just one night and a few days where he was busy learning from Rem and Ram how to work at the mansion.

>>145626226
>Rem, the girl with the second biggest rack in the show
>calls her a loli, probably just because he thinks any short girl is a loli
Opinion discarded

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>>145611298
>Hold me /a/
>touching another human being

>>145640159
>She doesn't require anything at all, though. Look at how quick she is to agree to a date, even after she learned what a date was.
She didn't see it sexually, just as a means to go out for a walk, and she did want to pay him back for his help with the whole ordeal. And it's him who asks for that as compensation, not to mention she's not just sticking to him just because; rather, he's the one trying to keep up with her. He's made to learn swordsmanship as a result, among other things.

>Emilia
>unique
She's the most generic and uninteresting waifubait I've ever seen, I actually thought I would like her best at first but when I realized she was just a generic basic bitch with a copy and paste personality, I was really disappointed. It's too bad because every other character in the series is unique and interesting.

>>145639836
>About a week for her
A bit longer, actually. The anime skipped a lot of the more SoL chapters.
>and requires the MC to keep improving and become a better man.
Emilia is just a combination of shy, dense, and sheltered. Her self-esteem is shit, so her standards aren't actually very high at all. The only challenge is convincing her you're serious and waiting for her to grow some balls, because she'll waste a year doing nothing because she isn't sure she knows what love is.
>>145639848
I guess I don't watch a lot of harems, since my main experience with them is everyone being a bunch of dense fuckers.
>>145640072
The way I see it, Rem isn't much more of a satellite than Subaru is. Right now she's intent on pursuing someone she'd like to be in a relationship with.

>>145640159
What's wrong with going on a fun little stroll?

>>145640360
>The way I see it, Rem isn't much more of a satellite than Subaru is.
How can Subaru be a satellite when he's the main character? Do you even know what that means?

>>145640466
He might be the MC, but he literally thinks Emilia is the sole reason for his existence.

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I'll just leave this here

>>145640339
He doesn't take up swordsmanship to keep up with her, he does it for himself. That was the entire lesson of that arc. Everyone pointed it out, until he finally said it. He did it so he could look like he was making an effort to improve. Not for her, not for anyone else, but himself.
>it's him who asks for that as compensation
Yes, and she, each time, agreed to a date after knowing him for less time than it took for Rem to swear loyalty to him. His infatuation with Emilia comes from each experience he's had so far.

Rem's infatuation in him comes from each one she's had with him so far, the fact she has seen him keep trying, the fact she was there to see him defend the children so adamantly, throw himself to the beasts twice just so other people would be safe. She was fully expecting him to die the second time. She's seen more of Subaru than Emilia has, she's been at his side ever since the beast ordeal, she's seen his determination for Emilia and admires that.
Each time someone has said "Emilia has been useful, she healed Subaru" is ignoring the fact that every single time she's done it, it's been after the actual challenge, because outside of Elsa, she wasn't present for the majority. Beatrice healed him the first time, because it was beyond Emilia's power outside of just trying to get him back safely. Emilia told Roswaal they'd all gone back to the beasts and that's the only reason he survived the curse. This season will end without Emilia doing anything, too.

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>>145640700
Subaru is not a satellite to EMT.
You do not know what the term means.

>>145640748
I think they actually had to add a scene to the LN of Emilia doing something that wasn't there in the WN.

>>145640360
>shy, dense, and sheltered
Sheltered she may be, but Subaru is far more dense, as he proved in the election arc; she's just naive. Shy is debatable, but she seems rather oblivious to anything sexual.

>Her self-esteem is shit
How so? She does quite well for herself despite the mockery at the palace and Subaru's monumental spaghetti droppage.

>>145640748
>agreed to a date after knowing him for less time than it took for Rem to swear loyalty to him
The thing is, going out for a walk as compensation for saving her life when he asked her to is a bit more normal than swearing loyalty just because.

>>145640748
>every single time she's done it, it's been after the actual challenge
Of which there have been exactly three; Elsa's, where she nursed him back to health; the hounds, where he asked her to remain at the manor at first and was asleep the second time around after staying up all night healing him and this last arc where she's away for reasons. She's not had the chance to fight, but she's helped at every turn, every chance she's had.

>>145640734
I was just thinking about fapping

>>145640914
>where she nursed him back to health
Check again, she nursed him so they could return, but Beatrice had to heal his internal organs. Not her, because it was beyond her ability.

>where he asked her to remain first
Yes.
>asleep the second time
Wrong, because she had to come out and tell Roswaal to save them. She wasn't asleep, she went out for Roswaal knowing she couldn't do anything.
>all night healing him
Most of that was Beatrice again, she wasn't healing him, she was watching over him. There's a difference. Beatrice had to handle the job of healing, and that's why she knew about the curses and his lifespan, and why Rem got the answer out of her.
>she's helped at every turn
No, that's precisely the point. The only times she's truly helped are Elsa's fight where she played distraction with Puck, healing him enough to get him back to the mansion where Beatrice healed him, and telling Roswaal to be a hero

>>145640914
>How so? She does quite well for herself despite the mockery at the palace and Subaru's monumental spaghetti droppage.
More of her character gets shown later. One of the reasons why she acts so oblivious about Subaru's advances is because she doesn't think anyone could love her or find her attractive. She's actually childish and pathetic, which Subaru eventually realizes. It's only then that he's able to make some progress.

>>145641051
>she went out for Roswaal knowing she couldn't do anything.
She went out for Roswaal because they were deep in the forest and she could do jackshit to find them; if she hadn't gone fetch Roswaal it'd have been game over yet again. As for the healing, they explicitly say that she used all her energy and had to rest.

>>145641083
That's kind of a let down, I hope we do get a S2.

>>145632672
Subaru.

>>145611298
I'm amazed that this faggot isn't getting laid yet
He should have fucked Emilia and Priscilla already and kill himself to respawn again

>>145641201
>She went out for Roswaal
Yes, exactly, she wasn't asleep for the second time.
>they explicitly say that she used all her energy
And they explicitly remind you at every turn that Beatrice is better at healing than Emilia, and is the one who is well aware of the fact he was cursed by several bites. They also make a big deal out of the fact that when he first goes to the mansion, he assumed Emilia had healed him and Beatrice called him an idiot because it was her. Emilia has contributed only in getting him to the mansion, telling Roswaal that they were dancing with dogs, healing Rom's light wound and distracting Elsa for as long as Puck could stay awake. This is her contribution, and besides one scene in maybe a few episodes, that'll be all she contributes this season.

>>145641201
>That's kind of a let down
Yes. It's one of the reasons I lost interest in Emilia. She is literally slightly retarded, in the sense that her mental age is years behind her physical development. I liked her when I thought she might have been much older and more mature than she looked, but she turned out to be exactly the opposite of that. She doesn't even know how babies are made, and she takes what a little kid says about it seriously.

>>145641335
She was asleep till it was too late; when she could act she did what was on her hand to help as she always has. She really hasn't had the chance to help any other time; I'm positive she'd have gone hunting if she had had the chance.

If anything, it's just that she's gotten too little screen time for a main heroine in the first few arcs.

>>145641426
I can get over the baby-making part, it's an overplayed cliche and makes sense in her context. So far she hasn't come out as a retard for me; just naive. But we'll see.

>>145641693
>So far she hasn't come out as a retard for me
Well, she's retarded in the sense of what that term actually means. Ekidna also calls her a crybaby whore who's always clinging to a man for support. The current Emilia wouldn't be able to take care of herself without Puck.

>>145633428
Based

>>145611388
I get so annoyed every time I see this dribbling pussy's face. I hear him being compared to Shinji all the time but even though Shinji's traumas and problems were awful, his pain and sadness seemed real. Not excessive and obnoxious like Subaru. I don't care if it involves spoilers (I never plan on watching this anyways) so someone give me one reason as to why all this screaming and bitching is warranted, and it better be some fucked up shit because he looks like he experienced the Holocaust times 666.

>>145637776
But is Subaru justified in those outbursts compared to Shirou?

>>145644025
FUCK OFF !
Go plug your anus somewhere else !

>>145644680
No he's not justified, because he's venting to people who can't even understand his outbursts. From any other character's perspective, excluding Echidna and Satella, he looks like a moron. He has an outburst in front of Rem and she just thinks he's batshit insane, then kills him. He has an outburst during his argument with Emilia and all it does it put him in the wrong.

Shirou's a pretty terrible character like 80% of the time, but at least he doesn't come out with the stuff Subaru says. The worst Subaru got was managing to alienate everyone that wasn't Rem in a single cycle, where even Priscilla couldn't tolerate his lack of integrity and need to just want no matter what he had to do to receive.

He fucks up later, too, and has a wakeup call when he thinks "oh, this result may not be perfect, but it's a result" then realizes he just got screwed, further realizes he's been screwed out of his last save spot so he can't redo it

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>>145633428
not posting the full version

Well caught up on this. I can see now the Emilia vs Rem shitstorm is going to last for years.

>>145646122
Hopefully it'll slowly die off when Rem becomes a potato.

>>145611556
>>>145611344
>Not always true. Everyone knows:
>Rem > Emilia
Of course
>Yuki > Haruhi
Yuki is the one true god
>Ryou > Nagisa
That's an interesting way of spelling Kotomi
>Nia > Yoko
Well duh

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>>145635008
He's pretty fit for a NEET unlike most of us anon, granted he isn't a MMA fighter but at least he's not flabby either

>search "Rem"
133 results
>Search "Emilia"
112 results
Most of which is hate.

How are the author/producers going to deal with this?

>people complaining about him picking emilia
>they dont know that after the whale him and rem agree to have rem be the 2nd wife.

>>145647019
Well, no they don't because she gets fucking ruined when Ley uses his Authorty, no one other than Subaru remembers her. She can't even move, she's comatose and forgotten by the world as long as Ley is alive

>>145647075
yes but they agreed to do it. They just ran into a bump in the road

>>145640357
Everyone expect Subaru is tropey as fuck in the mediocre way.

Elsa being that weird case of well done tropey and she's just a miniboss.

I'm fed up with this good demon bullshit. They are fucking demons.

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>>145611298

>>145647270
Anime "demons"=/=Actual demons

>>145647317
o wow
Are they going to get into the lore behind this

fucking shit, I hate the fact that I picked up this series last week. I hate waiting for episodes on a week by week basis.

>>145647592
This, the series is infinitely better if you watch all the episodes in tandem.

If anyone is reading this that hasn't watched the show, just wait until sept 10th.

>>145647386
Hopefully. It's theorized that Subaru is the reincarnated form of Flugel, The Sage - Satella is his wife that he sealed away when her Witch Ego was starting to take over, Puck is the Avatar he made to protect the daughter he made with Satella. He made a promise with Satella that when he is reincarnated, no matter where it may be, she will bring him to this world and protect him until he saves her and their daughter, Emilia.

>>145647951
>fucking his daughter
FUUUARRK

>>145647951
That corny as fuck but I love it.

Especially how it explains the language and writing degrading over time.

>>145647951
Doesn't explain his pride.

>>145648379
He's always been prideful and with Satella's influence, it's enhanced and becomes something so much more? Idk. That's the only theory I've read.

>>145647592
same here, i wasn't expecting i would catch up so quickly

>>145648429
Each archbishop asks, at some point, whether he's related to the lost authority. Echidna would also see through him if he was a reincarnation, like she can with Roswaal and like she can with his power to begin with. Echidna, of all people, would definitely see through it due to her fascination with him.

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>>145647270
They're actually Oni, and Rem hasn't exactly shown herself to be a fundamentally good person. She's someone who smiles when her sister was crippled, who brutally murders and tortures people even when she might not have a good reason. She is neither inherently trusting, kind, or understanding.

However, Rem does try to atone and makeup for her flaws when she realizes she was in the wrong.

>>145648601
Rather
*would see through him if he was a reincarnation of a sealer

>>145647951

A reincarnated Flugel wouldn't be as weak as subaru.

>>145648606
Wait, what does that picture imply, doesn't barusu just return to the respawn point
Why is he still dead

>>145648721
If he's reincarnating without his powers, he'll sure as hell be weak af.

>>145648825
It's not about that scene. It's talking about the day witch cultists attacked Rem's village.

Did anyone else assume that Rem killed subaru because she went berserk when she smelt the witches scent? and like everytime Subaru tried to explain what was happening the scent got stronger?

>>145648825
>>145648959
Yes. I chose that picture for the words and to highlight what type of person Rem naturally is, which isn't a very good one. There's a reason why atonement seems to be the main focus of her character.
>in arc4 there is a scene where Emilia gets future vision at the end she saw the girl that she never seen awake spoke, she said "---I think praying for a wish is an act of pride, praying should be for when receiving atonement.."

>>145617829
They are nothing alike you faggot

>>145640748
What do you think Subaru should have done?

Instead of practicing swords doing nothing at all?

>>145651508
Exactly what he learned to do. He didn't practice anything, he even realized that himself. Why are you defending him from his own realization? Every single character called him out for this, his lessons stopped because of it. He wasn't learning, he was trying to make a display of himself to look like he was trying, when he was trying nothing at all. It's why he learned nothing

>>145651581
Why are the characters so smart to see all the flaws in Subaru and yet nothing about him pretty much being a time traveller

>>145651670
In what way would the regular character see this? That's not even being intelligent, they have no in-world explanation for the stuff he can do with his phone, so they're forced to believe him each time he uses it to prove something. There's no way the world's regular characters can identify that he can loop. Only three characters know other than Subaru himself

Why do people want best girl Rem to "win" the autistic faggot suburban? She deserves better

>>145652065
>Inferiority complex and treats herself like shit
>A NEET personification of /a/

They're perfect for each other.

>>145632672
>Sane person
>Browsing on /a/

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I just realized Emilia is also the name of my first hard crush. I guess I had blocked the memory tight.

>>145644025
He has died multiple horrible deaths. Dismembered, disemboweled, frozen to death, beheaded, stabbed, crushed by a morning star, cursed and probably some other shit I forgot. In addition to that only he is aware of what happened before he bit the dust, as far as others are concerned all his gruesome deaths never happened. And when he tries to tell anybody else about this ability he gets killed. If he doesn't give a shit about dieing at that point, the person he is telling about his ability will die. Oh and he also saw people he cares about die, in one episode he has to watch Rem getting all her limbs broken while he's chained to a wall. She survives, drags herself over to him to undo his shackles, tells him she loves him and dies in his arms.
tl;dr: intense psychological trauma from various deaths, either as a witness or the one dieing.

>>145648601
The witch cult members also bow down to him in one of the cycles, probably thinking he's Pride.

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>>145633213
>The author said subaru is supposed to be unlikable
>Supposed to become a hero
>Unlikable
You are retarded.

>>145654739
>>145654724
Someone post the gif

>>145654888
>hero
>unlikable
I dont see the problem here, these two do not contradict one another

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People have already said it multiple times, but I just think Emelia is a boring character. It also annoys the shit out of me how Subaru literally confesses his love in a charming way each time he's with her and she just doesn't get it.

Maybe there's something I'm missing since I know nothing about the light novels. All I know is that episode 15 tore my heart out seeing Rem get fucked up like that trying to protect Subaru. God damn, Rem's a badass.

>>145654968
>implying subaru was oblivious to her rejection
He flat out rejected her.

>>145646926
ask whoever made Oreimo

So, one thing I noticed when watching the anime, is that I never saw Beatrice's body any time Sabaru made it back to the mansion to find everyone dead.

Dead I just miss it, or what?

I would think it would have been fairly difficult to get into her room given how she can move it