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It's time for Gundam Meteor Mikoto.

>spoilers so far
https://imgur.com/a/8zF89
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Misaki best girl.
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>this whole arc was just to get Kamisato out of the main world
>falls through the sky in Kamachi's mysterious next work
>the magic gods will be his main enemies
>all while amassing an unwanted harem
I really want an isekai spinoff with him now.
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So why the fuck is Mikoto on space
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Mikoto best girl.
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>Kamisato's fucking dead
More, Kamachi! I need more death!
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>>145448235
>gets send to a new magical world
>thinks it is his chance to start a new life
>still ends up fighting magic gods
>still ends up surrounded by bitches
Fukou da
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This is a thing now.
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Sweet

All the magic god nonsense has been successfully retconned gracefully

Now we can move forward
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>Kamisato got WRed on purpose to get rid of his sluts
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Seems like most of the volume is actually getting rid of Kamisato and probably setting his harem on Touma.

So why was Tokiwadai and AAA Mikoto necessary for this?
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>>145448281
She and Yuiitsu would destroy the planet if they fought on earth
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>>145448281
It was at night according to chinks. No space.
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>>145448113
>spider biribiri is now gundam meteor
They grow up so fast
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A moment of silence, please, for Kamisato Kakeru. He didn't want to exist, but when Kamachi needed someone to clean up his mistakes, Kamisato was there. May his perfect world be harem free.
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Mikoto a shit.
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God NT is so fucking shit.

Introduce pointless characters and then gets rid of them only to repeat the fucking process.

Crowley let his entire city get trashed by a heatwave? Damn this is just hilarious.

The fact that Crowley doesn't even do anything this volume despite his motive at the end of the last one shows things move so damn slow
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>>145448523

May he rot eternally and never, ever return. Thank you based Yuiitsu, literally doing the gods' work where they failed.
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>>145448235
>Kamisato makes a cameo in BooBoo
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>>145448113
Does Crowley show up at all this volume? A little in the epilogue, maybe?
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>>145448767
Probably chilling in his pisstube hoping Kamisato and Yuiitsu kill each other off.
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>>145448523
>May his perfect world be harem free
Conflicting desires.
Kamisato wants a harem, he just wishes for a better one
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But where is Tsuchimikado?
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Is this the same AAA she used last volume (just evolved/used properly) or is it a different one?

Either way if she loses control of that thing at any point, Touma can't stop her.
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>>145448877

He'll show up for the final fight against Yuiitsu.
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When the hell is Haimura going to learn how to draw feet and legs?
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>>145448937
He hasn't learnt in over a decade, not going to happen.
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So Kakine's revenge next volume, right?
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>>145448414
This

>>145448443
>Tokiwadai
Fan service, duh
Gotta rope Misaki in for those sweet Misakibux
>AAA Mikoto
She's semi-related because now that Yuiitsu rubbed out Kamisato, it's Aleister's turn to move his ass and go after Mikoto
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>>145448937
When Kamachi makes another right hand character but its power is located on its right leg
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>>145449021

Right after Frenda's return.
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>>145448113
>Gundam Meteor
>there's faggots who don't know that was a rip off of the Dendrobium Orchis from 0083
Kill yourself.
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>>145448523
Amen. May his soul rest in peace not to be brought back violently as Kamachi wishes.
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>>145448523
>>145448632
>>145449315
>Implying
Get ready for a flashback volume about Kamisato
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>>145449286

Meteor doesn't look like shit though.

>>>/m/
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>>145449286
>>>/m/
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>Next volume is Aleister vs Mikoto and Touma vs Yuiitsu with Kamisato harem
>Touma will have to choose between saving +400 girls or saving Mikoto
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>>145449369
Except Meteor does look like shit. Fuck off Seedshitter.
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>>145449286
classic /m/
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>>145449344
You mean Kamisato in the WR realm, talking to the magic gods. Having his own NT9.
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>>145449344
I liked Kamisato so I'm alright with a flashback volume.
It can only really cover the time he got WR so like a month tops.
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Who the fuck is Yuiitsu again? A Kihara?
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>>145449427
>Kamisato hated the things the god's powers caused
>gods hate when their power effects the world
They will probably hit it off
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>>145449425
I stopped visiting /m/ years ago when it got overrun by toku trash.
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>>145449447
Yes
Fourth best Kihara to be exact
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>>145449369
Meteor does look like shit.
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>>145449382
>AAA Mikoto rumbles in
>sees Kamisato harem and Yuiitsu attacking Touma, goes berserk
>Aleister rumbles in
>sees Mikoto v. Yuiitsu + Kamisato harem, decides it would be best if he slaughters all of them in one swoop
>Touma somehow stops him AND saves Mikoto AND Kamisato harem but nearly dies
>novel ends with Laura overseeing her plans
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>>145449470
>Kamisato comes back with a fairy Niang-niang on his shoulder
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>>145449447

>Asking who she is when she's appeared in 6 or so volumes so far
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I can already see a save kamisato arc coming soon.
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>>145449493
fifth
Kagun > enshuu > noukan > byouri > yuiitsu > all the other worthless bastards
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>>145449433
In Kamachi land that's like 10 volumes.
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>>145449493
>>145449588

>Byouri

What the fuck did she ever do to be higher than based Yuiitsu the harem lead slayer and dog avenger?
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>>145448113
>Gundam
>Meteor
Best girl gets all the best toys.
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>>145449577
>saving the biggest goober of NT who summons new throwaway characters wherever he walks
No thanks.
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>>145449577
I don't think I could handle 2+ volumes of Touma being jerked around by Kamisato's bitches.
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>>145449588
>Enshuu
>A Kihara
Kagun>Noukan>Amata>Yuiitsu
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>>145449621
She became a yeti, an alien, and the Loch ness monster.
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>>145449573
The last time I read Index LN was when Touma was having a race with the zombie priest. I haven't touched any new materials since then. Give me a break.
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>>145449631
>meteor
>good
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>>145449660
>Amata
>good
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>>145449636
I can already see a hundred of Kamisato whores freeloading at Touma's apartment bugging him to use IB to bring Kamisato back
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>>145449679
If you had kept up with the threads you'll know who she is
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>>145449588
Kagun > Amata > Other > Shit > noukan > NT11 > Dogfucker
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>>145449706
>Index learns what it's like to starve for others' sake
>Sphinx is petted and coddled by dozens of girls
>Othinus gets stepped on
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>>145449707
I didn't, hence I asked.
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>>145449706
>demon lord touma route is entered solely because of Kamisato's harem
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>>145449591
I can deal with 10 volumes. That's like 3 new bitches a volume.
He goes through bitches quicker than he goes through underwear.
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>>145449738
>Noukan
>below shit
Kill yourself
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>>145449738
>NT11
Was there a Kihara in that? I thought it was fake misaki.
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>Aleister letting Yuiitsu turn AC into a fucking wasteland all to get to one guy.
Laughing_Laura.png
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>>145449805
Nouka was in N11 fighting off a scientist who implanted his brain into a killer whale.
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>>145449808
Ahhh I wanna fug Laura
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Do we have any spoilers on Mikoto is actually doing with AAA?

I can think of three things:

>killing off an Element Queen
>assisting Touma
>being used by Aleister to help Yuiitsu kill Kamisato

I only put that last one because spoilers say Yuiitsu needed help and got it from Aleister
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So is there any spoilers summary about the whole novel?
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>Dogfucker vs Pigfucker next volume
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>>145449990
Why would Aleister use her when he wants to kill her and has better goons to send Yuiitsu?

>>145450007
>filename
Brutal
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>>145450007
There's already fanbases shitflinging at each other. Don't pick a fight
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>>145450098
>fanbases shitflinging
It's literally two or three, five at most, faggots in these past few threads samefagging and chain-posting off of each other.

>27 unique IPs
Embarrassing desu
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>>145450087
Same reason he'd allow Yuiitsu to destroy his city for one guy when she has better ways to do it
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>>145450007
So is it safe to say that the era of three MCs is finally done?
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>>145450098

I'd be picking a fight with myself, then.
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>>145449855
jesus christ that fucking fight a dog fighting a fucking scientist with a whale body
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>>145450159
Maybe turning the city into an oven benefited another part of his keikaku and that's why he let her do it
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>>145450157
Still best not to actively pick a fight for very little reason.
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>>145450165
It ended a long time ago
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Moral of the story: Don't beat up dogs to death
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So we apparently have spoilers for the AAA thing being at night and not in space but no word on what she's actually doing? Or what happens to her?
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>>145449990
Spreading love to Academy City
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>>145450575
Fuck off
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>>145450165
It ended years ago. I hope Kamachi starts with 3 MCs somewhere else again now that Zashiki Warashi is over. I love that format.
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>>145450165
Nah dude, Touma's going to get the band back together next volume to deal with Kamisato's harem.
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>>145450589
Fuck off
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>>145450648
You first
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>>145450699
Noyou , baka
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So Yuiitsu wants to get rid of Kamisato, Mikoto and Aleister. Kamisato's already offed, I wonder if she'll actually last long enough to challenge Aleister.
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Who's Urchin?
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>>145450639
He's gonna have a lot of major shit after his ass next volume. It would be wise if Accelerator and Hamazura did come back, either because Touma asked or because they were dragged back.

>Yuiitsu could use Rikou
>Aleister could use the clone network
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>>145450798
Google it
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>>145450798
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I hope best girl Misaki has the spotlight this volume.
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>>145451091
Who?
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>>145451091
Not at all. It looks like even fucking Kuroko did better than she did
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>>145451091
She got an illustration and showed up in the color spread, that's something
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>>145451091
It'd be boring as fuck
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>>145451091
No point, Misaki is great but she's pretty fucking useless when it comes to moving the plot along.
In saying that however, her book was actually pretty good.
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>>145451091
>misaki volume
>reintroduces herself every chapter
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It's going to be bullshit of the highest order if Touma gets through Kamisato's girls, Yuiitsu, any other weapons/beings/concepts/technologies Yuiitsu brings out next, PLUS Aleister and whatever he uses while managing to avoid a situation where an out of control Mikoto happens all by himself with no help from anyone. I think I'd be madder about that than I was about NT10.
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>>145451353
>NT11
>good

Fuck off waifufag
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>>145451488
>Aleister gets defeated by a passing truck driven by Hamazura and Stephanie
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>>145451531
I enjoyed it. The antagonist was forgettable but learning about Misaki's past was pretty sweet and why she's so kind of Touma.
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>>145451587
It should have been a SS volume
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>everyone gets their own AAA
>Index becomes a mecha LN
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>>145451619
>a certain heavy object
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>>145451587
Fuck off shipping waifufag
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Are we sure that's Kuroko? she doesn't have the needle strap thing.
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>>145451618
It should have been. It wasn't worth being a NT volume but then most stories which flesh out the backstories of side characters should be SS on principal alone.
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>>145451693
why would she need that on her all time?
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Dark Matter Kamisato next volume
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>>145448113
C O N F I R M E D
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>>145451805
Fuck thought you were dead
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>>145451488
NT10 at least had "if I walk around with powerful espers and magicians helping me, Othinus and I will look like a threat, which is the opposite of what I want" going for it. It made sense and made it look less like your standard MC wank.

There's nothing like that here. If Touma handles all of those situations, whether it be through fighting or doing something avoid the situation, all by himself it'll be nothing but a "Teehee~ Look how badass Touma is~ Don't forget to worship him now hehe~" wank
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>>145448113
>Raildex
people still reading this shit?
lol
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>>145451805
>No doujin where the dragons fuck Nuitkoto like tentacles
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Has Mikoto's development been dropped? I thought she was going crazy last volume
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>>145452249
Get the fuck out of the threads then
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>>145452339
The illustrations don't have her losing her mind but no spoilers as to what she's actually doing seem to be out yet. Mikoto's storyline is likely happening next novel but who knows? Maybe she goes completely bonkers soon after she lands the AAA
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>>145452339
>actually thinking that any problems in Index will last more than a volume or two
Haven't you learned by now?
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>Put Mikoto on the cover
>On the summary
>Makes everyone think Aleister/Yuiitsu is going after Mikoto first
>They actually went after Kamisato
KAMACHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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Hang on. Do Mikoto's eyes look a little blank and unfocused in that illustration to anyone else upon closer look? Am I maybe seeing things or if I'm not, maybe the expression was unintentional
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>>145452602
I think that the fact that she is completely expressionless is creepy as fuck.
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>>145452702
It's more unsettling because it's barely noticeable but once you've noticed you can't stop seeing it
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>From Stiyl Magnus !TKgDHVsABc : http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/145427372/#q145434683
>"Ah."
>"If you dice me into mincemeat, you'll lose the key too. I'm asking if you're fine with that. The odds are one to ten thousand, one to a hundred million. It is written that he could never return. But if there's a key that may overturn that... Will you cut it Kamisato Kakeru's last life line with your own hands?"
>"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHELP ME KANZAKIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
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>>145452602
N
U
I
T
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>>145452825
Fuck off
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Holy shit, the more you look at Mikoto's blank expression the creepier it gets
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>>145452870
Make me
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>>145452870
Fuck off shitposter.
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>>145453045
Fuck off.
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>>145453118
Kill yourself nigger.
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>>145452971
Is there a word for the creepy girl archetype?

Mikoto is really growing on me
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>>145453045
>telling someone to fuck off when they are sperging is shitposting now
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>>145453118
Fuck off
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>>145451531
Stay salty, Mikotofag.
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>>145453146
I'm not even Mikotofag.
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>>145453145
Fuck off you
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They told me threads will be good when there's new content.
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>>145453279
Fuck off
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>>145453146
Why would a Mikotofag be salty about NT11? If anything they'd be happy
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When are the Rensas gonna return in humanoid Five_Over bodies and announce that protecting Touma is their new reason for existing?
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Spoilers when

Text spoilers when

Full volume spoilers when
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>>145453118
Fuck outta here nigga
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>>145453279
sadly its not this time or when the chapters get translated then discussion
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If that guy who wanted a translation for Heavy Object vol 12's preview summary is in here, I posted it in the other HO thread.
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>>145453207
Then what's your issue? You don't like seeing other characters get some development?
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>scummy Nuit poster absolutely butt blistered he got told to fuck off when he sperged at a comment that had nothing to do with his circle jerk theory and shits up the thread
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>>145452602
>>145452702
>>145452794
Sorry but I'm not seeing it, she just looks tense to me
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>>145453493
So this...is the power...of autism...woah
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ded
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Summary made it seem like AAA girl (which is now confirmed to be Mikoto) appearing and Touma getting closer to Element/heatwave mastermind (now confirmed to be Yuiitsu) are separate events

In other words, it could be that Mikoto isn't near Touma and not pulling out the AAA for his sake

Which means she's either taking care of something like a Element/heat power source or Element queen OR being manipulated by Aleister
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>>145453804
Fuck off you fucking autist
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>>145453451
>development
There's no such thing like this, stop kidding yourself.
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>>145453547
Wait until night.
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>>145448113
Mikoto looks weird here.
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What do you think Mikoto is doing with the AAA
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When does js06 get her copy?
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>>145454342
Spilling blood for the blood god.
Farming EXP
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>>145449701
He was and more charismatic despite being an ass.
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>>145450639
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98RFrzTQQEc
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>>145448346
FUCK YEEEEEES!
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>>145451618
Just like NT12 and a huge part of each volume except NT9.

I hate that the plot only moves on the epilogues only to drop it off to repeat the cycle for the next volume.
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So out of all the possible illustrations they could have given us, why did they waste one on Touma carrying a girl and Mikoto being mad about it
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I find pitiful how some Mikoto fans craved hard for Mikoto having some kind of awakening like Accelerator yet they are fine with some Infinite Stratos rip off.

In the other hand it's a nice for damage control from Kamachi to appease fantards.

>>145454703
Miki of course.
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>>145454892
They think the magic in AAA will give her wings or make her transform like she did in the manga
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>>145453994
Yuiitsu is probably the AAA girl though.
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>>145454892
I just want her to be relevant, and the only way for that to happen is for her to be strong. Her being strong will also shut up all the faggot shitposters who talk about how weak she is.
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>>145454991
Nope. Mikoto is. See OP illustration
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>>145455107
see >>145448632
It could be either one
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>>145455154
Didn't she call it Dogs Life and not AAA
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>>145455036
In this series everyone who thinks to be cool shit only can get rekt or get nerf.

Mikoto no matter how much of a marketing device she is isn't getting a power up.

She got a Spin Off and still does dumb shit or just isn't the protagonist.

Kamachi isn't into powerful characters as MC unless they got some weakness that make up for that and Mikoto is never going to get anything beyond dust on her body thanks to her Aegis Shield called Miki.

The series messages is to accept yourself and what you got. Discard the WSJ mindset Mikoto has.
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>>145455198
If the pov is far enough away that they can't see who is piloting, they probably can't see the name. Plus it could just be the name of her personal AAA.
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>>145455198
I am actually quite interested in what Dog's Life can do. She is trying to surpass all other Kihara's, so it has to do more than shoot cannons, right?
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>>145455246
I just want her to be able to appear in important volumes and be relevant and useful on the main stage.
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>>145455287
She never was meant to be that important, be happy she got ton of irrelevant screentime and her own SO compared to other heroines who fans thinks to be better.
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I've always felt like Mikoto was meant to be important but Kamachi took a different route for her that he didn't origunally intend to take
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Touma sure is a convenient protagonist. No matter how he grows or gets stronger, Kamachi could just negate his advantages. Being able to sense changes in AIM is worthless against Elements.
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>>145456320
She was a popular Himegami.
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>>145448113
>AAA
Mikoto can beat Accelerator now. Discuss.
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>>145456567
Mikoto can beat Accelerator with just her appearance. He wouldn't touch her.
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>>145456538
>Himegami didn't appear at all this volume
Did she get killed by an Element
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>>145456567
Of course she can, she summons Wrath of Miki and then activates her trap card Marketing Whore Above God and Accelerator gets auto rekt.
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>>145456660
It's funny how basically anything with Mikoto's face is Accelerator's natural enemy now.
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>>145456901
Most things with Mikoto's face are on his side, even if they get sharp with him. Honestly, I'd get sharp with him too if he were on my important people list
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2covdFPm1GE

+1 for the Railgun girls and the power of friendship

#WelcomeToTheRealWorld
#LooksLikeMamaWasWrongAgain
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>>145456828
>everything is Miki's fault
>there's no way it's Kamachi's will
I can taste the salt from over here.
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Seems like an appropriate time for a friendly reminder.
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>volume ends with another cliffhanger

England fucking when Kamachi?
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>>145457029
>taking a joke post seriously
>muh salt maymay
>not liking memes
Bet you hate fun too.

He has his share of fault btw.
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Jesus I cannot stop laughing. I cannot possibly imagine how it must feel to be so patetically wrong about I something I honestly can't. I already knew you guys were idiots from the start but now you can all truly feel like one. I've said it Tina and time again I'll put my faith in the Railguns and they will not let me down! Even Kongou and her friends made the cut.
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>>145457092
Can't come sooner, I want some classic Raildex lore to heal my mind with how mediocre NT has been as of late.
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Has anyone appeared three novels and failed to get an illustration/design before? Even Himegami and one arc Railgun characters like Mitori and Rakko got designs quickly. Did your meme girl fail
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This is only the beginning! Watch and see! when they realize how successful this next LN is they're going to include them more and more until they all have a cemented spot in the series. I'm going to but so much Kuroko merchandise! But guys really though, how does it feel to be that wrong? I've got to know? I've never talked to a fanbase that so so utterly wrong and pathetic before until now so forgive me if I'm being rude.
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>>145457092
>Another cover bait volume as well

Let's see how hard the sales drop this time.
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Is Misaka ok?
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>>145457622
She'll be fine
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Ahh. The ignore game. I see. Recovering from being so horrifically and just plain wrong about something must be devastating right? Shall I give you all time to recover?
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>>145457622
Seems like it. But we don't have any spoilers about her except she gets mad at Touma for carrying a girl and uses AAA
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I want you all to know I'm eating a banana split right now. I literally went out and bout everything I need to have a personal party before I decided to start posting, you know.. because I deserve it. (It's called rewarding yourself)
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>>145457714
>she gets mad at Touma for carrying a girl
For all we know it's a mixture of shocked concern for the girl and brainfreeze because it's Touma
We all know she goes full retard around Touma
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Anyone have that "One of these characters will appear this novel or I will eat my shit" cap
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>>145457786
Yeah I'm hoping she's just surprised because the girl got hurt and not jealous because he's carrying a hurt girl
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>>145457622
Yeah, her whole "going crazy/evil" plot from NT15 was completely dropped.
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>>145457926
Seems like it. But who knows? We need spoilers
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>>145457600
The swimsuit stuff still happen so how is it cover bait?
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Don't worry Uiharu. As hot as it is outside I'm sure you'll play a part in this LN.
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>>145457161
>>145457502
Abandon thread
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>still don't have spoilers about why Touma was even at Tokiwadai, why Mikoto used AAA, and if anything happened to her after
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>>145457894
It's a shocked face, like when Saten asked Touma to dance.
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>and the boy disappeared from this world

AKA hey let's make Touma disappear so that the next LN can be strictly about Mikoto and her friends. You all know it's true but just like before you pathetic rats will not admit it until it's too late. What a joke. I'm literally smiling right now.
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>>145457092
>Touma's hair keeps getting softer and softer looking.

Poor guy can't even afford his hair gel anymore.
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>>145458063
I almost want what happens to her after she uses the AAA to be unknown. So Kamachi can do anything he wants without it feeling awkward. But that would lead to months of shitflinging too
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>>145458017
Misaki apparently is irrelevant again.
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>>145458291
You expected something different
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>still waiting for Mikoto to go full Rules of Nature
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>>145458336
Nah, but nips are very autistic over stuff like this.
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>>145458291
Kamachi never liked Misaki, anyways. She was bait to promote sales.
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>>145458291
As if anybody would take your word on anything. Unlike most people here I learn from the past.
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Misaki being irrelevant is basically a pathetic delusion. They have been building her character up for a reason. Now if you said somebody like Othinus is going to be irrelevant who has already outlived her best moment by far and is no more use to anybody that's a different story.
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>>145456976
Most of the clones don't really interact with him, though. In fact, they haven't really bothered acknowledging him for a long time now.
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>>145458390
She won't do more than teehee at Touma and appoint herself leader with her powers
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Besides you're all forgetting that Misaki is a Railgun girl.
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>>145458524
As individuals you're right. Most of them have probably never met him. But as a group he does make the list of their important people, along with Touma and Mikoto
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>>145458291
Just like the rest of female cast, your point?
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>>145458229
Sadly this is most likely the case.
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>>145458597
No he doesn't. The very last time the numbers below 20001 acknowledged Accelerator's existence was when they voted whether to forgive him or not way back in SS2.
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>>145458291
The sole fact that she appears means that she's not irrelevant. No matter how many grumpy /a/nons claim otherwise.
If she was truly irrelevant she wouldn't have gotten a novel, railgun arc, figure, and more appearances in recent novels.
Call it fapbait, Kamachi being a faggot or whatever you want, but she's still there, unlike 90% of the girl cast (Kanzaki, Itsuwa, Lessar, Oriana, Orsola, etc)
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>>145458625
Now you're just being hateful, imagine the series without any of the female characters. If you imagined that I think you now realize how stupid you sounded when you said that.
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>>145458640
You missed "as a group". And 20001 counts as a part of that group
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>>145458628
Touma getting WRed would be interesting, but between Aleister and IT I doubt it will happen.
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>>145458698
>a series about Touma, bros and delta squad doing fun things.
Fuck you for reminding me this wasted potential.
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>>145458021
She would actually be super useful in this scenario
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>>145458769
It is going to happen? When will you learn to trust the people with a track record of being correct about things?
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>>145458714
It's not really "as a group" if only 20001's especially fond of him.

Well, there was the Collective Will, but her treatment of him was fairly harsh. She's giving him a second chance, but if he fucks it up, he'll probably on his own.
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>>145458808
You know. Things like Kuroko showing up in this LN.
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>>145458254
Poor guy can't even afford his hair anymore. He is going bald, thats why his hair is getting shorter
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>>145458889
That's because he's getting old unlike Touma who can carry literal princesses around no problem.
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>>145458815
The collective will cared enough to speak to him and tell him exactly how not to end up on his own. And she wasn't even that harsh. I'm sure he's much harsher on himself. Now whether he follows hire advice is another matter entirely
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Misaki a shit.
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>>145458793
Yep and I don't know for sure but Saten hangs around her a lot so we might see her as well. They're basically all friends and this is their hometown.
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>>145458964
*her
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>>145458964
It still wasn't exactly what I'd call "warm". The Will's treatment towards Touma and Accelerator are like night and day. With Accelerator, she gives stern warnings or makes fun of his methods. With Touma, she's warm, kind, patient and nurturing.

Well, it's only natural giving one basically killed half of her while the other saved the remaining half.
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What are the Kamijou faction going to be when they grow up?
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>>145459077
Misaka will make her own terrorist group
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>>145459059
You don't understand them. Honestly they are just learning about emotions as they grow and they are lost and confused in the world. Nobody knows what's in their heart.
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>>145459077
>Kamijou faction
>Meme faction
>doing anything
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Going to watch Index for the first time, which order should I watch?
Airing or Chronological?

Airing order:
To Aru Majutsu no Index
To Aru Kagaku no Railgun
To Aru Majutsu no Index II
To Aru Kagaku no Railgun OVA EX
To Aru Majutsu no Index Movie: Endymion no Kiseki
To Aru Kagaku no Railgun S

Chronological order:
To Aru Kagaku no Railgun
To Aru Majutsu no Index
To Aru Kagaku no Railgun S
To Aru Majutsu no Index Movie: Endymion no Kiseki
To Aru Majutsu no Index II
Don't know where the fuck the OVA goes here.
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>>145458815
They all love him
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>>145459015
Yeah, I also thought that Misaka will protect her squad, even touma did it, so maybe there's gonna be a certain mention about saten and uiharu.
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>>145459077
Going their separate ways.

The epilogue will be about Kanzaki finally marrying her true love: the washing machine.
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>>145459138
I'd say they're pretty straightforward.
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>>145459077
Itsuwa gets out of prison
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>>145459215
Airing order. Always airing order.
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>>145459059
Actually her second conversation with him was kind of warm toward the end. And I don't think anything she's said to him is so childish as to be called "making fun of him"

I see it as "Fine. I accept you are trying to earn forgiveness. I'm open to letting you try. Here's some advice, take it or leave I'm not holding your hand but I'm not shutting you down, either." rather than "I don't like you at all and never will and can't wait to see you burn in hell" like some people interpret her words as.

Barring it being natural because Touma saved her, it further makes sense she'd treat them differently because they're different people and needed different things when she spoke to them
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>>145459215
Airing order worked pretty well for me.
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I don't agree with everyone called Mikoto a terrorist. I believe the term would actually be freedom fighter.
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>>145459384
Also, she wants to get in Touma's pants.

It's only natural that you'd treat someone you're attracted to differently than someone you're not.
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>>145459077
Kuroko's gonna be a cop
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>>145448235
>This arc was just a set up for Kamachi's next work
The absolute madman
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>>145459431
Calling*

>>145459455
It's set up to get rid of Touma for the entire next LN so they can focus on Mikoto and her friends. That's why he disappeared in the end.
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>>145459438
I actually don't see Will's attraction to Touma as romantic. Its closer to hero/idol worship
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>>145459583
Thats good because he's ending up with Index anyways.
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>>145459583
But she told Accelerator that she was after Touma. She said that directly. Besides, she's the accumulation of the Misaka Network's overall will, and the vast majority of them have the hots for him. Or rather, we've yet to see a single one besides 20001 express anything else.
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>>145459578
fuck it ill bite but that was kamisato not touma that WRD
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Sometimes I wonder how long you all have been reading and watching anime and manga. When the girls name is in the title that girl wins. It's not really that heard. I guess knowing things like that just comes with experience though.
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>>145459752
so index?
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>>145459752
My bad I meant
*hard

Sort of like Touma when he was carting Kuroko around like a princess.
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>>145458784
this. Too bad
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>>145459814
Yep. It's Index.
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>>145459683
That "make a pass" line you're talking about was awkward. It wasnt to the conversation they were having. I don't see the Sisters feelings for Touma as anything more than hero worship and an elementary school level crush
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>>145459349
>>145459429
Airing order it is, thanks.
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>>145459752
The original plan was for each volume to have a different name. So Volume 1 was "A Certain Magical Index" and Volume 2 would have been something like "A Certain Something Something Deep Blood" or whatever.

His editor shot that idea down, though.
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I thought I made it clear I was talking about Index but with this fanbase I guess you can never be careful enough.
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>>145459949
*wasnt relevant to the conversation
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>>145459975
When everybody switched bodies Index was him mom.

Believe me when I say Index wins.
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>>145459975
>00:00:00
Nice digits.

>>145469999
>>145460000
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>>145460075
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>>145459683
If the clones truly are their own individuals, the only ones who actually love Touma are 10032 and Will.
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>>145460075
Shit.
>>145459999
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Misaki a best. A BEST.

Only girl to kiss Touma. Only girl to grow her breasts out for Touma.
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>>145460035
This. Saying otherwise is just plain denial bringing up excuses like her not having screentime
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>>145460178
It's going to hurt her when he chooses Index.
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This is the couple I want to see. Best friend and best lovers.
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>>145460278
She already accepted her loss. She's not a spoiled self-entitled cunt like Mikoto.
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>>145460278
Eveem more when both are so alike.

>Haimura literally says Misaki's design is Index one year later.
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>>145460330
>Misaki is not self entitled
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>>145460123
The thing about the Will is that she's the combined will of the entire Misaka Network. If only one Misaka had feelings for Touma, then those feelings would be less than 0.02% of the Will's own feelings.
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>>145460366
She isn't.
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>>145460372
Well, 10032 is the only one who has had any real reason to be attracted to Touma. Of course, I subscribe to the viewpoint that all clones besides WORST and LO are basically the same person, and not truly human.
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>>145460402
She uses mind control and essentially violates random people for her own personal gain. I like her but you can't ignore that.
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>>145460339
so in one year index gets a big rack?
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>>145460178
>>145460330
It's that time of the day again
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>>145459431
You're technically right. But it'll probably be hard for people to start calling her a freedom fighter.
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>>145460489
It wouldn't be a surprise with all the shit she eats
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>>145460330
No, she just snipes at her and presses her buttons whenever the two are near each other.

With that having been said, I can't help but wonder about something.

NT12 and NT13 have Mikoto relating that Misaki is directly competing with her for access rights to Touma's school, which should be so far beneath the both of them so as to be off the map. And she never seems to wonder why this is the case, beyond Misaki poking at her just because.
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>>145460475
Oh, you're referring to that.

I was talking about in regards to Touma. She is easily the most reasonable and mature girl in his harem.
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>>145460489
More like gets fat
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>>145460431
No, the Misakas all have some level of budding individuality, as proven in SS2.

10777 also has a thing for him as well.
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I want to FUCK fukiyose-chan
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>>145460489
She is a foreigner.

Large tits are a matter if time.
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>>145460595
Maybe slightly, but in the end the fact that they share memories through the network causes them to be infinitely less human than a real human. The vast majority of them have never even had an interaction with Touma yet they're obsessed with him. They're more like ants than people. There are slight differences between some of the ants in a colony, but in the end they are still just drones.
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Ahh, it's raining again.
;_;
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>>145460575
>Misaki
>reasonable and mature

She's a salty cunt. Funny thing the girl she directs her cunty butthurt at will lose too
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>>145460663
i wonder if kamachi would end this series with a time skip
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>>145460565
Snipes! Ha!
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>>145460671
Weak fucking faggot. Cry harder
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>>145460688
She's just bantering with Mikoto. Her mindset regarding her feelings with Touma is a lot more mature than anyone else's.
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>>145460748
I'm pretty sure that's just your opinion.
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>>145460748
She's a salty cunt no matter how hard you try to defend her. Just like Mikoto is a self entitled bitch.
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>>145460822
Not reallly. The rest are all ungrateful/violent cunts with Touma. Even Itsuwa gets violent at times.
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>>145460688
>cunty butthurt
Nigga do you even know how it feels that the person you love forgets all about you and someone else takes your place?
That's world beta literally come true. If Touma got fucked hard going through that just imagine how much it hurts for Misaki.
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>>145460575
What do you mean"Oh"? That's a big deal you know. It's not something to sweep under the rug.
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>>145460848
Not defending her. You can call her a bitch for using her powers or messing with muh electric bitch for all I care, but you can't deny she's the most bro girl to Touma, even when he can't remember her at all.
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Reminder that Last Order and Misaka Worst's feelings for Accelerator are fake.
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How long does it take for a novel to ship again?
Basically what's the ETA on the translations?
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>>145460917
Explain further
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>>145460907
>That's a big deal you know
Everyone has super powers so it kinda isn't.
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>>145460851
There's something about Touma that just draws out the violent retard in every girl he interacts with. They're usually considerably more reasonable when not interacting with him.

Except for Mikoto and Misaki who wouldn't like each other much anyway.
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>>145460475
Most of her minions follow her because they like and respect her, she doesn't force people under her control

>>145460542
She is a radical individual trying to infuse terror by openly destroying factories and important buildings, how is she not a terrorist?
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>>145460913
I'm pretty sure Mikoto has the fembro role filled already.
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>>145460999
It's the misfortune.
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>>145460917
Also, Misaka Worst is a slut, who goes out in the city to experience the night life aka fuck random strangers in bars.
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>>145461021
No, she's a creepy stalker who thinks Touma should not be near another girl and attacks him whenever she's mad.

Misaki on the other hand even offers him naked girls to his enjoyment.
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>>145461021
>I'm pretty sure Mikoto has the fembro role filled already.
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>>145461011
>she doesn't force people under her control
AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
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>>145460902
"wah wah wah muh dumb teenage crush didn't work out and some other bitch it won't work out for either has the same crush! better be a bitch so I can feel better about it"
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>>145460913
>most bro
>over itsuwa, othinus, kanzaki, seria,
Hell Mikoto is pure bro when other girls aren't around.
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>>145460998
>it's not a big deal

Yea but everybody doesn't have the ability to control people into doing their bedding completely like her and she uses it on random unsuspecting people. Nice try.

>>145461011
I'm not talking about her followers? This is called trying to change the subject.
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>>145460999
>there is something about Touma
Maybe it's him being the biggest retard in all of anime. I want to puke at his face every time he does something other than punching villains.
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>>145461133
Itsuwa isn't a bro, she's purely wife material.

The others are too violent and that outweighs their bro qualities.
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>>145461151
>Yea but everybody doesn't have the ability to control people into doing their bedding completely like her and she uses it on random unsuspecting people. Nice try.
Yeah but that's just how her power works. There's just no other way around. For a mindcontroller she's pretty tame.
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According to Japan, Touma repeatedly gets his ass kicked this volume and is constantly being saved by other people.
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>>145461259
She shouldn't be using her power at all unless it's an absolute emergency.
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>>145458254
He's just going to have flat hair soon at this rate.
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>>145461268
Good
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>145461122
No more (you)s for you sir. Have a good day.
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>>145461268
So it's a New Testament volume.

When's the last time Touma straight up won a fight?
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>>145461133
>No Fukiyose
She literally has the role claimed already
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>>145461268
Elements too strong
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>>145461259
So if somebody had the ability to automatically break people's arms it would be okay to do it to random people because that's just how your power works and you're pretty tame because you could be breaking much more arms?
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>>145460913
That's Fukiyose for sure.

>>145461068
WORST just takes their money and blueballs them, she's saving herself for Accelerator.
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>>145461268
Sounds about right. The prologue had him getting his ass kicked by an Element and needing to be brought back to the land of the living by Fukiyose and Aogami of all people.
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>>145461313
NT10
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>>145461268
Nothing new for New Testament then.
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>>145461302
Wah wah wah cry fucking harder about your waifu's "suffering"
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>>145461315
She always slips my mind. She was awesome with weed pulling scene.
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>>145461362
I guess it'd be Thor? But Thor survived the train and then just stopped fighting because he was satisfied.

I think the last actual win might be in NT 9 when he beat up fake-Aogami.
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>>145461325
Misaki only controls people due to her paranoia shit. She has no interest in hurting them like an arm breaker would do.
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>>145461451
He beat Marian, but she also sorta self-fragged.
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>>145461451
I was thinking on Marian
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Hardly anybody else in the series does what Misaki does. That would be like Kongou walking up to a random girl and shooting her into a lake or something.
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>>145461485
She basically beat herself though, like >>145461484 said. Touma just stood back and let her summons go out of control.
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>>145461462
She made one of her friends eat a dozen eclairs after getting annoyed and regularly wipes other people's memories of embarassing things. This isn't someone using a tool of last resort, it's someone idly toying with the world.

I like her anyway.
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>>145461462
So now you're saying that if you don't intentionally want to hurt sombody it's okay to invade their mind? That's not what friendship is about. Look at this picture. This is friendship.
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i wish touma kicked some ass again getting help is okay but not all the damn time
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>>145461497
Could be worse.

Imagine if Mugino and Misaki swapped temperaments.
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>>145461594
Recently Touma has been winning primarily through the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP, which is a force more powerful than all the metaphysical bullshit in the world.

He should become a magical girl.
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>>145461604
Exactly. It's scary.
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>>145461644
Power of friendship would more be if his friends inspired Touma to win.

Touma uses the power of letting his friends beat up the bad guys for him.
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>>145461644
really fucking wish it wasn't friendship and him just punching the shit out of girls so hard they go 180 angle
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>>145461684
He's a normal highschooler you can find anywhere after all
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>>145461268
Gee, thanks a lot, Kamachi.
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>>145461644
Recently Touma hasn't even been winning
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>>145461644
I've been saying this forever now. In almost any action series the power of friendship is more important than individual power. That's why the Railguns usually always come out on top,
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Touma fembro ranking:

Fukiyose > Misaki > Saten > Komoe > the rest
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Any spoilers on what Mikoto was doing with the AAA? Saving Touma again?
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Misakifag cancer is strong in here.
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>>145461364
>Nothing new for Index then.
He is always being saved, getting help, or receiving crucial hints from other people. Touma almost never wins entirely on his own.
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>>145461765
>Dog killed the Magic God for him
>His am got WR'D
>Misaka blasted Yuiitsu
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>>145461791
>Misaki
>Saten
>fembro
Kek.
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>>145461815
>waaa stop liking what I don't like
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>>145461268
Yeah and?
He hasn't been his cool badass self from WW3 and is not punching people.
>>145461279
Yeah, just like Misaka right?
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>>145454602
MY SIDES CAN'T EVEN LMAOOOOOOOOO, HOW HAVE I NOT SEEN THIS
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>>145461791
>Fukiyose
Violent bitch.
>Misaki
Manipulative bitch.
>Saten
Literally how.
>Komoe
Too irrelevant.
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>>145461848
>Misaki
Read NT7.

>Saten
Read the Railgun manga, more specifically the race in Daihaiseisai and the folk dance chapter.
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>>145461791
>Misaki
>Saten
What
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>>145461815
Misaki is more relevant than all of the female magic side characters not named Index, Othinus or Birdway though.
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>>145461858
Misaka's power is inherently different and you know it. She doesn't use them to subjugate people to her whims. Misaki has a power that is quite evil in nature, it's literally the ability to strip people of their free will, and yet Misaki has no problems using it on whoever she wants.
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Reminder that it's been exactly one week since the St. Germain Attack.
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Towards the end of this intro you see the power of friendship in action and Kuroko even saves Mikoto from dying at one point.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iPAk08RmT6s
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>>145461849
>bawww stop calling attention to my autistic waifu spamming
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>>145461980
Mikoto is like "where the hell did you pop up from"
Touma is like "what the fuck am I doing here"
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>>145461957
>misaki is more relevant than Laura
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>>145461957
Too bad no one gives a shit about magic characters
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Misaki a shit
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>>145462025
>People =/= You
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>>145461980
This proves that Kuroko is a critical ally to have in a battle.
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Reminder that Kuroko has appeared more in the last 5 LNs than your favorite magic side character.
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>>145461973
She literally causes massive blackouts. Most of the city has suffered losing their electronics due to her bitchy attacks.
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>>145461957
>more relevant than all of the female magic side characters not named Index, Othinus or Birdway though.
You mean less relevant than Othinus, Birdway, Index, Laura, Lessar, Kaori, Itsuwa, Sasha, Carissa.

For the magic side, Misaki wouldn't even be in the top 5.
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>>145462141
That's extremely tame in comparison to stripping someone of their free will and forcing them to do your bidding for fun.
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>>145462139
If you want to make Kuroko seem important then point out actual facts like being one of the only three female characters that have been the protagonist of an Index LN.
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>This baiting nigga bitching at misakifags talking about misaki in a misaki-related volume
Tough luck, troublemaker
>>145462151
>Lessar, Kaori, Itsuwa, Sasha, Carissa.
Who were they again?
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>>145461957
>misaki whose appearance are far and few between and isn't even involved in the main science side plot
>more relevant the than the majority of science femals
They are all two steps ahead of her just by knowing what magic is.
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>>145462241
>science femals
:magic females
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>>145462151
>Lessar
>Kaori
>Itsuwa
>Sasha
>Carissa
>more relevant than Misaki
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You all forget! Unlike Misaki and Mikoto who basically become useless baggage (Misaki more in the chest) after they lose their ability Kuroko can still handle a couple bad guys with her fists.
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>>145462210
>Misaki related novel
>all she'll do is rub her tits on Touma and use her power to be in control

This is a Kamisato related novel
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>>145462126
These threads lead me to believe it. For the last few months it's all about science characters. Only a small group of dedicated magic supporters still survive like that Kanzaki guy.
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>>145462151
>For the SCIENCE* side, Misaki wouldn't even be in the top 5.

>>145462210
>>145462286
Nice samefag. They received more attention and/or affected the plot more than Misaki. Deal with it.
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So we are going from one character shit-posting to another huh to change things up?
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Lets talk about Mikoto and her new toy
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>>145462345
>gets saved by an ape
Wew lad
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>>145462365
>They received more attention and/or affected the plot more than Misaki
All Lessar did was beg Touma to fuck her. Kaori is so 2008. Itsuwa is in jail. Sasha is a literal who. Carissa was a meme villain.
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>>145462394
We can't because we have no spoilers
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>>145462151
>Lessar, Kaori, Itsuwa, Sasha, Carissa
Literally who?
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>>145462365
>They received more attention and/or affected the plot more than Misaki
When was the last time any of them appeared? The half-assed fights in NT10?
Like it or not Misaki is getting way more attention and screentime than any of them.
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>>145461268
He doesn't get time to rest. His fairy won't let him change his formula. His right hand only has two modes: situational passive defense mode and kill fucking anything nearby mode (which requires him to tear it off). Kamachi really likes to stack everything against this guy.
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>>145462395
You obviously don't understand what happened if you think he saved her from that fight.
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Text spoilers soon?
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>>145462523
Touma dies but his soul will choose to go bac in time when he was the happiest.
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>the 20+ doujins of Misaki and Mikoto riding Touma's dick dry
This series knows whats good
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>>145462586
Fuck off
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>>145462597
>tfw Othinus doujins never
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>>145462408
>All Lessar did was beg Touma to fuck her.
Fought by Touma side and took part in fighting against GREMLIN, which is more than Misaki could dream of doing.
>Kaori is so 2008
Not being recent doesn't make her past relevant and affect on the plot irreverent.
>Itsuwa is in jail
Nice meme. She saved Touma's ass more than Misaki.
>Sasha is a literal who
A side character that had greater impact than Misaki thanks to plot making her relevant.
>Carissa was a meme villain.
And yet she induce changes and affected the magic side plot in a lasting and major way. Some meme villain she is, amirite?

>>145462444
>When was the last time any of them appeared?
Not being seen recently doesn't invalidate what they have done. Misaki could have all the shoehorned appearance you want and still be less relevant for doing nothing but small things.
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>>145462613
Index and Othinus combine to create a counter against Yuiitsu.
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>>145462597
Needs more variety.
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>>145462632
>reminding me
I hate you.
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>>145462639
>Fought by Touma side and took part in fighting against GREMLIN
What did she do again? I only remember Index, Mikoto, Leivinia and Touma doing all the work.

>Not being recent doesn't make her past relevant and affect on the plot irreverent.
She's literally Stiyl tier relevant.

>Nice meme. She saved Touma's ass more than Misaki.
>meme

>A side character that had greater impact than Misaki thanks to plot making her relevant.
Like being felt up by Touma? Where's her character arc akin to Misaki's?
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I hate all of you sometimes
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>>145462770
i hate you too, fag.
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>>145462669
We have the 8 Misaki cucking Mikoto doujins and the 100 vanilla Kamikoto doujins. But I agree, for a series with so many characters, the porn is so limited
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>>145462639
>for doing nothing but small things
Nigga she saved Touma's life. And since when is a character's worth measured from their role in the plot? So, index is great and aleister is the best just because they "matter" more?
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>>145462632
Good. She dresses like a slut anyways.
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>>145462850
At least Mahaya has taste, but he'll never release his ZW porn sadly.
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>>145462821
I'm sure I have opinion about something somewhere that would make me worthy of hate in your eyes
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>>145462916
>She dresses like a slut anyways.

That's precisely why we need them.
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>>145463025
Why is Othinus so sexy on a bikini?
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>>145462151
>Misaki wouldn't even be in the top 5.

How so? Putting the marketing whore Mikoto aside, only LO, Mugino and Saiai can be argued to be more relevant, and Misaki is easily more developed and fleshed out than those three.
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>>145463025
This is your Goddess tonight
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>>145463093
She's not? It's no different than her everyday outfit. Not like Mikoto and Kuroko.
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>>145463108
>developed
>fleshed out
tits XD
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>>145463093
I just want lick her all over.
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>>145463210
t. anime-onlyfag
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>the power of the hospital were Fiamma and Patricia were went off
RIP
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>>145462762
>What did she do again?
Go read WW3. Lessar was by Touma's side for the longest time when WW3 broke out. It's not a stretch to say Touma wouldn't have gotten as far as he did without her help and knowledge. She appear again in NT8 and she contributed in knowledge and helped beat enemies Touma couldn't handle, but more important she had a helping hand in taking down the big bad organization that encompassed most of NT.

>She's literally Stiyl tier relevant.
Poor argument that doesn't actually refutes the point.

>meme
Call me when Misaki fought off someone like Acqua twice and against magic cabals and an army of nuns and got tangled up in the coup d'etat that spanned a major arc.

>Like being felt up by Touma?
Sure, it's not like being the catalyst for Archangel Gabriel didn't mean anything to the story on a grand scale. Nope.

>>145463108
Mikoto, Fremea, LO, Sisters, and Mugino all had greater plot relevance to Aleister, character development that coincides with story advancement or of influencing protagonists, or contributed to affecting the scale for Touma's sake.
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>>145463264
Tits tits tits XD XD XD
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I really hope you pathetic freaks aren't posting in complete silence?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6GAXuQQ3xbY
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>>145463290
HC's keikaku is about to begin.
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>>145463322
>>145463210
Mikotofags, everyone.
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Do we have any recent popularity poll?
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>>145463339
Shitposters everyone
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>>145463264
>using Railgun when everyone is talking about Index story
Grasping at straws.
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Misaki a shit.
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>>145463413
She is fleshed out in Index too.
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>>145463413
Doesn't the OP say "raildex"? And railgun is a part of index's story too, you know.
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>>145463413
>Implying Railgun isn't canon

Good one.
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>>145463456
You'd still have to be pretty damn dumb or have not read OT to think she's more fleshed out that Mugino or Saiai.
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>>145463313
>WW3
So she was just Touma's random sidekick at the time. What a feat. She's so relevant Kamachi literally forgot she met Mikoto in Railgun SS2 and just characterized her as Touma's drone in NT8.

>Call me when Misaki fought off someone like Acqua twice and against magic cabals and an army of nuns and got tangled up in the coup d'etat that spanned a major arc.
So the bigger the powerlevel the more relevant one is?

>Sure, it's not like being the catalyst for Archangel Gabriel didn't mean anything to the story on a grand scale. Nope.
So she's a plot device.
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>>145463515
Or even Last Order. Nearly every scene she is in is well written and adds to her character
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>>145463515
She's vastly more fleshed out and developed than Mugino. What do you even know about Mugino other than she's a crazy bitch who used to be Kakine's punch bag? Saiai is better characterized than Mugino but she doesn't even have a character arc while Misaki has 2.
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>>145463606
>She's vastly more fleshed out and developed than Mugino.

Not who you're replying to, but that doesn't mean she is a better character. Just saying.
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Strangely enough I unironically think See Visions is a better intro than No Buts.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HRnbHAUgoMc
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>>145463367
Only the annual LN poll where the Raildex rank goes:
Male:
1. Touma
2. Accel

Female
1. Mikoto
2. Othinus
3. Index
4. Misaki
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>>145463456
She's barely above minimum levels in Index. Other characters before and after her had/have more.

>>145463474
Raildex is for our convenience. Index is the main story that matters most. Railgun is a spin-off and it expands the setting and introduces new characters, but it doesn't affect the grand scheme of things.

>>145463502
>being retard and new
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>>145463606
So in other words you haven't read or completely forgot OT15,19,22 or NT 5,6,7.
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>>145463669
Because it is.
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>>145463706
Explain.
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>>145463669
See Visions was the best OP, but the worst full song.
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>>145463687
>Other characters before and after her had/have more.
Yeah but how many of them are science side girls? Just Mikoto.

And everything that's canon matters when talking about the characters. Mikoto would be just another generic tsundere if it wasn't for Railgun.
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>>145463687
>it doesn't affect the grand scheme of things.
Are you that same nigga that has been obsessed with relevance all the damn thread? The claim was about Misaki's character development, no one was talking about the "grand scheme of things".
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>>145463756
Hey! I liked the full song.
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>>145463645
Mugino a shit though. It's no wonder she barely has fans.
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>>145463737
Fleshed out doesn't just mean backstory mate.
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>>145463861
Dragged the intro part out way too long and it essentially repeated itself, the OP kept the part to a good length and flow.
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>>145462364
Check your eyes then.
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>>145463917
Neither is just having more screentime. Mugino is mostly characterized by being a two dimensional crazy bitch. Kamachi almost never shows a human side to her. Fuck, even Frenda had better characterization than Mugino does.
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>>145464055
Still not convincing anybody mate.
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>>145464098
I was convinced Kuroko would make her way back into the series! I forgot? What was everybody saying about her before she appeared?
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>>145464098
Such an impactful scene indeed. It's not like its only purpose was to give Cendrillon a way to enter the stage.
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>>145464055

Mugino hasn't been insane since WW3 ended though
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>>145464229
Isn't that because she hasn't done anything since?
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>>145464098
He is right too, Mugino hasn't been fleshed out beyond her crazyness.
Difference now is she isn't murdering people now but we now why but not how Migino came into terms with herself.
However NT6 shows she literally didn't give a shit.
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>>145463986
My eyes are fine thank you. You can enter any thread and see overwhelming science support, most fans being Touma, Mikoto, Accel and Misaki fags with the occasional Kanzaki or Index fan saying hello.
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Of course I wasn't surprised. When she sells some of the most merchindise in the entire series and her figurines even sell out faster than the Mikoto ones sometimes you're cannot be left out for long.
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>>145463802
>Just Mikoto
Mugino and Maria too if science only. But fleshed out isn't the point. Misaki just isn't that relevant to the plot compared to the aforementioned girls. Period.

Canon matters, but still not the point since Railgun barely affects Index's plot. Mikoto's development and fleshed out plot has little to no impact and influence in Index.

>>145463836
No since I'm not the Misakifag that shitposts using grand scheme of things.

My claim was never merely about character development. The origin argument >>145461957 was about Misaki's relevance. Arguments were given to refute that statement.
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>490 posts
>66 IPs

Sasuga raildexfags.
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>>145463456
>literally made her boobs grow so she could satisfy Touma's preferences

Are other girls even trying?

It's a shame the closer you are to winning the Toumabowl the harder the fucking hack author hits you.
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>>145464259
Even still, Mugino has had more development or fleshing out or whichever you feel to call it, because Misaki really hasn't had all that much. Perhaps the right wording would be that Mugino has changed significantly more in comparison. She'll still kill an enemy no hesitation, but she's at least learned restrain for people who aren't trying to kill her.
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>>145464514

He's a hack for writing NT11 in the first place and not for denying Misaki the T.
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>>145464298
I'm not one to usually brag but I did say it was going to always come back to the science side no matter what happens with the magic side. The Railguns are simply what the fans want and have always wanted.
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someone has spoilers from 2ch?
i remember that day when NT15 came out and tons of fake/true spoilers with it since the first day it was released
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>>145460748
>Misaki
she have frist girl position she know him before Mikoto
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>>145464374
>The origin argument >>145461957 was about Misaki's relevance. Arguments were given to refute that statement.
And then the conversation shifted its focus to her character development when shitposter-kun here >>145463210 denied it.
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>>145464585
That's basically childhood friend status. Now she's defiantly not going to win.
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>>145464533
Fleshing is characterization. Development is personality and relationship change even though it can include the former.
Changing without a good, solid motivation and introspection makes for a very two-dimensional character. Misaki doesn't need to do a 180 with her personality to be a more developed character than Mugino.
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Everybody knows the childhood friend only wins in lude hentai games and that's only if you yourself choose her.
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>>145448632
>Dog's Life
Cute
Shame she's still planning to murder everyone slightly involved with Doge kicking the bucket, which means the T now has to deal with her now that Kamisato's done for
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>>145464686
At this point it's just devolving into opinions. Perhaps Mugino is sticking in my mind a lot more since I recently reread late-OT and forgot most of NT11. When I try to think of Misaki's development nothing really comes to mind.
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>>145464374
>Mugino
Not even close. Even Kuroko has more.
>Maria
Forgot about her. I guess she's equal to Misaki.

>Mikoto's development and fleshed out plot has little to no impact and influence in Index.
Misaki's does, though. Even Kamachi was worried because Index-only readers wouldn't get Misaki in NT11.
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>>145464586
>shitposter kun here denied it

Holy shit that was a joke because of an unintentional pun
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>>145464741
I don't really remember, why is she after Touma again? The enemy of my enemy is my enemy or something stupid like that?
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>>145464686

You'd think that getting destroyed by someone inferior to you on numerous occasions is enough motivation to change
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>>145464700
>green girl from shuffle
>chisato
>houki
Not to mention all the main girls that happen to have met the MC in their childhood.
By the way, who are you talking about? As far as i know Touma doesn't have any childhood friend.
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Speaking of older stuff, I just remembered this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeYshL0mcVM
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>>145464807

>Kuroko has more than Mugino

Now I've seen everything.
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>>145464741
>Its Touma fault that Noukan got killed because he didn't killed Kamisato
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>>145464877
Yea well at least Kuroko didn't kill one of her teammates.
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>>145464877
Volume 8 trumps anything with Mugino.

Too bad the author didn't follow up the points raised in that volume for Kuroko and chose to degrade her into an absolute joke.
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>>145464919
Traitors are no longer teammates.
>>
One little joke at an unintentional pun started at least an hour of waifu autism. Holy shit.
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>>145464766
NT11 is very different from other Index novels. The whole flashback with pre-amnesia Touma and most of the rest of the novel is told from her first person perspective, as opposed to the usual third person perspective the narration uses for the rest, fleshing out Misaki a lot more.
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>>145464952
>>145464952
They're still people and don't deserve to die. If acting like a midieval barbarian is the kind of thing you're into I can see how you would enjoy being in that monsters aura. I prefer characters that carry themselves with a little more class.
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>>145465077

Pic unrelated right?
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>>145464586
I never acknowledged the shifted focus, but I made a point how using Railgun is grasping at straws. Up until then we were talking about events from Index LN. Going by "fleshing out" is an obvious tactic to pass off Misaki's development as plot affecting relevance. story. Railgun has weak effect on Index's story, so it's a desperate move to even bring up the fleshing Misaki received in Railgun.

>>145464807
Yes, like it or not Mugino's accumulative development is deeper and more significant. Having development that affects Shiage and assists in advancing the story on a large scale helps her.
>Kuroko
ironically, she is more or less the same as Misaki in both development and relevance.

>Misaki's does, though.
No. Her actions in Railgun doesn't have any direct affect or is referenced in Index. The only reason Misaki was the heroine of NT11 is because she's a Level 5 and it was about time to introduce her properly.
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>>145465105
Beauty is never unrelated.
>>
Do we even want a new thread? Do we have an ETA on text spoilers?
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I want to fuck MisakAAA
>>
Why do people always forget that Mugino literally saved Accelerator using what she learned the hard way? Him living or dying would definitely have an effect in the long run so it surprises me when people say Mugino has done nothing in NT.
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>>145465107
>Going by "fleshing out" is an obvious tactic to pass off Misaki's development as plot affecting relevance.
flesh out
vb (adverb)
1. (tr) to give substance to (an argument, description, etc)
2. (intr) to expand or become more substantial

Jesus dude, reading a novel like Index that is ~50% SOL shenanigans must be though for you.
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Okay how many novels do you all think it's going to take for Kuroko to become a level five? I say two more.
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I mean let's face it. Accel and Kakine aren't going to see the end of the series alive and I'd imagine a lot of the other level gives won't either besides Mikoto and Misaki. At some point more have to take their place.
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>>145465308

I want to FUCK Kuroko. No gentle love-making, but ravaging until she passes out.
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>>145465107
Mugino just has been around for longer and is directly linked to the third protagonist of the series. In terms of character she's way behind Misaki. And yes, she's not exactly plot relevant but that same reason allows Kamachi to be character driven with her stories.

>No. Her actions in Railgun doesn't have any direct affect or is referenced in Index.
Daihaiseisai is referenced in NT7 and Dolly is referenced in NT11. The reason Misaki was the heroine of NT11 is because Kamachi was spending too much time with her in Railgun. Her story in NT11 is foreshadowed in Railgun as well. She makes the most effective use of being featured in two different series in the franchise.
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>>145465308
>five
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AAA Mikoto can beat Saints discuss
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>>145465385
>the third protagonist of the series
How can this meme be still alive? NT1 was an obvious ruse.
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>>145465375
Although she's not the type of girl that would sleep with insects such as yourself I have to admire your good taste.
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>>145465422
Quenser and Heivia can beat AAA Mikoto discuss
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>>145465460
I still believe in the proper return of Super Hamazura.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0SZABxlm6eA
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>>145465502
The White Queen can beat Magic Gods discuss.
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>>145465502

>Last HO volume was in February

It's been rough. I guess the adaptation hit Kamachi hard and now they're banking on Blood Sign or Boo Boo next.
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Super Hamazura can beat Objects discuss
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>>145465590
Ha! The magic gods are basically child's play. They were made out to be unstoppable forces of nature and they ended up getting jobbed harder than Charley Brown as he goes to kick the football.
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Pendex can beat whatever silly power-up Mikoto may have, discuss.
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>>145465557
>>145465670

What do they feed you down in Australia to fuel your rampant and prolonged mobile shitposting? Surely there are better ways to spend your energy.
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>>145465709
Styil can beat Pendex discuss
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>>145465709
Stiyl can rape Pendex discuss
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>>145465714
So now because I want to see a certain scientific paring I'm considered a shit poster? Now I'm the bad guy?
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Mikoto worst girl.
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text spoilers where
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Man, I miss the days when we could have threads without this much shitposting, shame I can't go back to them since the archives died
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Mikoto best girl.
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>>145465204
>Googling what I already know
Obvious tactic is still obvious.

>>145465385
>In terms of character she's way behind Misaki.
Only if you include Railgun.
>allows Kamachi to be character driven with her stories.
Misaki can have that, but at the end of the day it can be said she's important to the story, not more than other girls that greater importance.

>Daihaiseisai is referenced in NT7
In what way that's relevant to the main point?
>Dolly is referenced in NT11
Exception or rather that should be expected since NT11 is a debut novel that is a follow-up using Railgun to make Misaki familiar with Index readers. But see here, NT11 as a whole isn't relevant in any major way to the larger picture in either science or magic plot.
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Kuroko best girl
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>>145465903
>there are people who still aren't aware of the (several) new archives.
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>>145465950
Obviously but who is second best?
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>>145465903

I've been going through a couple of them again and there was plenty of shitposting back then too. The difference is that now there is no anime to focus on and no hype because the vast majority of NT is a snooze.
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Touma's harem needs more lewd brown girls. Discuss!
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>>145465958
I know about them, but last I looked they didn't have threads like the release threads of NT8 and 9 which were some real fun shit
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>>145465967

The best level 0 of course.
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>>145466002
They're here

foolz.fireden.net
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>>145466002
Sometimes I wish 4chan gave out awards for complaining. You'd be our resident superstar.
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>>145466020
Your taste is amazing. What are you doing posting among this sea of grotesque worms?
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>>145465947
>Only if you include Railgun.
Why would I not? Even Mikoto's character would lose half of its appeal if we are going to start selectively ignoring Railgun.

>Exception
Misaki's interactions with Touma and Mikoto require you to read Railgun to get the full picture about them. Just like you need to read the Sisters arc to get the whole struggle Mikoto went through.
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>>145466030
Sweet, thank you
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>>145463108
Misaki is not a particularly interesting character. In Railgun and NT11 we learn a lot about who she is, including a lot of her backstory and what she does. Railgun shows us her background with the dark side and her history with the Misakas. NT11 shows us her relationship with Touma, Seria, and her clique.

This partially explains why she spends a lot of time hitting on Touma and harassing Misaka, and makes her a pretty tragic character, but she's still a very straightforward character. Kazuma says that the crowning piece of NT11 is a psychological drama, but at the end of the day, all that really happens is that her clique wrecks shits and Touma saves her. A lot happens, but the vast majority of what is revealed is not about her.
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>>145466204
>but she's still a very straightforward character
Just like the other girls.
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There's enough Kuroko for everybody.
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>>145466308
You can keep them.
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What are you guys going to do when Touma secretly tries to grab Kuroko's boobs while she's passes out? You know he's going to do it.
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Speaking of railgun girls, Kongou doesn't get the love she deserves.
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See, these arguments show how much people here care about science characters. Magic characters don't have such passionate fans.
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>>145466465
She made it onto a picture in the new LN and it was in color so I think things are going to be a little different from now on.
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Misaki was a mistake.
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>>145466291
Both Kuroko and Frenda's Index novels both seemed to add more dimension to their character, whereas Misaki started from zero-dimensional (because she didn't get enough screentime anywhere us to really know who she was) and got characterization. But she doesn't change over the course of the novel, there's no emotional epiphany in the climax. All her development happened a long time ago.

It's not that she didn't get interesting development, rather - from the time we saw her in the institute Misaki has changed a whole lot, maybe more than most other characters. But all her moving moments happened in the past. "Young Misaki" changed a lot. The Misaki we know and love today doesn't do anything interesting at all.
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>>145466465
Her friends are super cute.
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>>145466465
Blame Kamachi for forgetting about her in Railgun.
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>>145466511
Sometimes I like to fall asleep listening her her beautiful voice from the dub. Everybody underestimates it.
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>All of this chaos in-between waiting period
More NT16 spoilers can't come soon enough.

Seriously, guys. We should do more speculations. I stilt can't believe my speculation about Mikoto having her own manifested version of AAA came true.
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>>145466534
>The Misaki we know and love today doesn't do anything interesting at all.
Because Kamachi annihilated any potential with NT11. Now she's just doomed to be Touma's forgotten girl that has no real chances of developing an interesting relationship with him.
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>>145466616
Sadly almost all of the non-shitposting speculation is for he other Kamachi novels now.
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>>145464533
>that leg on Last Order
Accelerator is not feeding her well
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See for yourselves.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kKrWCWTWjiY
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Birdway spin-off any month ow.
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>>145465958
I can't post on desuarchive the vast majority of the time, it just tells me there's a database error and I have to try every hour for 12 hours before it goes through.
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Itsuwa and Misaki are best girls for Touma.
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>>145466786

I'd rather have New Light for the diversity in girls.
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>>145466786
Would much prefer a Mark Space spinoff
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>>145466786
>>145466858
>>145466861

You're more likely to get yet another science character spin-off. Such is the life of magic characters when people don't care about them.
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>>145466831
The best girl for Touma is going to be the girl he chooses.
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>>145466796
I wish the foolz archive enabled ghostposting. It is the superior archive in every aspect.
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>>145466861
Mark Space comes with Birdway. Mark Space isn't strong enough to have a spin-off. It'd get boring fast fighting low to mid tier characters on a regular basis, and not getting involved in the upper level where the real action and world changing matters are concerned.
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>>145466892
Index is Touma's pet. Touma doesn't fuck his pets.
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>>145466786
I'm personally waiting for a 0-X office spinoff.
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Wasn't there supposed to be a Heavy Object spinoff? Whatever happened to that?
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>>145466923
Index happens to have her name in the title. Sorry if I ruined your fantasy. This girl right here is going to win his heart and there is nothing we can do about it.
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>>145466967
They didn't let Kamachi publish the Top gun loli side story yet.
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>>145466921
Birdway is simply too strong, and has that whole organization thing to deal with too which would just get dull, low to mid tier dangers are still pretty good in the Index-verse as long as they aren't Science Shitters
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>>145466984
I was just joking.

Index end is fine because it will cause nuclear butthurt in Mikotofags when it happens.
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>>145466470
Science girls are high school girls living out high school days in a city full of mysteries. The ordinary ones do high school things, the high-level ones occasionally engage in Academy City intrigue, and the dark side ones are usually off on some operation or another. On any given day I have a pretty good idea what Uiharu and Mugino might be doing on any given day.

What is Kanzaki doing? Agnese? Is it nothing but magic cabal intrigue day in and day out like all the magic side SS stories involve?

That's curious enough, but 1. it's much harder to relate to life in a magic cabal because what the fuck does a magic cabal even do and 2. at least the Academy City girls are struggling against the dark side of Academy City, which matters. Magic girls are probably dealing with, well, irrelevant bullshit. If a cabal isn't at the top of the world it isn't shit.
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>>145467029
I've warned them many times he's going to break hear heart in half and make her cry but they refuse to listen to logic.gif I only care about what's best for her.
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Well if NT16 doesn't satisfy there's always Accel vs Hirumi and Kuribot vs Scavenger/Mikoto to look forward too.
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>>145467088
Mah nigga.

Kuroko is the only perso who likes Mikoto for who she is. Once that dirty ape rejects her and fucks off with his headcrab Kuroko will be there to comfort and heal a heartbroken Mikoto, and will slowly earn her heart.
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>>145467035
So are you basically saying you like magic freaks?
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>>145467035
The series is at it's best when it has both sides like in the second half of OT.
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>>145467014
Birdway isn't that strong. What's great about Birdway's powerlevel is that it can be above average, saint, and bordering archangel level. If she has Index help, then she can do crazy OP'd shit, but that isn't going to be a regular occurrence. The most normal powerlevel for her is Saint, but we never get to see it. Having a spin-off would allow us to see it in action.

There are a lot of Saints and other existence that's comparable to them, and higher existences. Kamachi is sitting on a gold mine that's waiting to be mined here, and Birdway would make for a great MC to expand on those untapped resources.
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>>145467130

>implying that Mikoto will notice her

Awaki is the future.
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>>145467139
I assume you're talking about espers?

Most of the science girls' characterizations don't even have that much to do with their powers. They're just overwhelmingly more relatable in general.
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>>145467185
Well, at least Kuroko has more chances than Etzali.
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>>145467185
Awaki is one of my favorite girls but she's not close to Mikoto.
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What is even happening in Railgun nowadays?

I stopped reading the manga when that shota with Kuroko appeared.
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>>145467263
Haven't been keeping up too well but the bully bait from the Accel manga are about to get stomped I think.
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>>145467263
Just friendship things.
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>>145467263
You're missing out on Frenda being cute and awesome, and making friends with Saten.
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>>145467263
Railgun is way past its expiration date now. It's like Kamachi and Fuyukawa are being forced to give it life support.
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>>145467373
>opinion
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>>145467263
Nothing particularly plotworthy has happened in Railgun since then. A local disaster was stopped, some Battle Royale between-the-lines happened, we got a bunch of fun character interactions, and a proto-Rensa has appeared.

I have barely been trying to piece the plot together but it's been two whole fucking years since Indian Poker started and we still don't know jack shit about what's up with it.
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>>145467414
>image.png
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>>145467423
That's rude. This is why you have no friends.
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>>145459683
What is Accel manga
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>>145467130
>Once that dirty ape rejects her and fucks off with his headcrab Kuroko will be there to comfort and heal a heartbroken Mikoto, and will slowly earn her heart.
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>>145467263

Best girl was introduced.
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>>145467515
She just doesn't know what she wants.
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>rabid misaki posters
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>>145467515
I remember some serious butthurt from y/u/rifags when this chapter came out.
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Let's end this!
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>>145467564
They're a thousand times more bearable than rabid Mikoto posters. And I say this as a Birdwayfag.
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>>145467684
>that BLACKED Frenda doujin
I'll go to fap again.
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