It's time for Gundam Meteor Mikoto.
>spoilers so far
>this whole arc was just to get Kamisato out of the main world
>falls through the sky in Kamachi's mysterious next work
>the magic gods will be his main enemies
>all while amassing an unwanted harem
I really want an isekai spinoff with him now.
A moment of silence, please, for Kamisato Kakeru. He didn't want to exist, but when Kamachi needed someone to clean up his mistakes, Kamisato was there. May his perfect world be harem free.
God NT is so fucking shit.
Introduce pointless characters and then gets rid of them only to repeat the fucking process.
Crowley let his entire city get trashed by a heatwave? Damn this is just hilarious.
The fact that Crowley doesn't even do anything this volume despite his motive at the end of the last one shows things move so damn slow
May he rot eternally and never, ever return. Thank you based Yuiitsu, literally doing the gods' work where they failed.
Fan service, duh
Gotta rope Misaki in for those sweet Misakibux
She's semi-related because now that Yuiitsu rubbed out Kamisato, it's Aleister's turn to move his ass and go after Mikoto
>AAA Mikoto rumbles in
>sees Kamisato harem and Yuiitsu attacking Touma, goes berserk
>Aleister rumbles in
>sees Mikoto v. Yuiitsu + Kamisato harem, decides it would be best if he slaughters all of them in one swoop
>Touma somehow stops him AND saves Mikoto AND Kamisato harem but nearly dies
>novel ends with Laura overseeing her plans
Best girl gets all the best toys.
Kagun > Amata > Other > Shit > noukan > NT11 > Dogfucker
Do we have any spoilers on Mikoto is actually doing with AAA?
I can think of three things:
>killing off an Element Queen
>being used by Aleister to help Yuiitsu kill Kamisato
I only put that last one because spoilers say Yuiitsu needed help and got it from Aleister
It's literally two or three, five at most, faggots in these past few threads samefagging and chain-posting off of each other.
>27 unique IPs
He's gonna have a lot of major shit after his ass next volume. It would be wise if Accelerator and Hamazura did come back, either because Touma asked or because they were dragged back.
>Yuiitsu could use Rikou
>Aleister could use the clone network
It's going to be bullshit of the highest order if Touma gets through Kamisato's girls, Yuiitsu, any other weapons/beings/concepts/technologies Yuiitsu brings out next, PLUS Aleister and whatever he uses while managing to avoid a situation where an out of control Mikoto happens all by himself with no help from anyone. I think I'd be madder about that than I was about NT10.
>everyone gets their own AAA
>Index becomes a mecha LN
NT10 at least had "if I walk around with powerful espers and magicians helping me, Othinus and I will look like a threat, which is the opposite of what I want" going for it. It made sense and made it look less like your standard MC wank.
There's nothing like that here. If Touma handles all of those situations, whether it be through fighting or doing something avoid the situation, all by himself it'll be nothing but a "Teehee~ Look how badass Touma is~ Don't forget to worship him now hehe~" wank
The illustrations don't have her losing her mind but no spoilers as to what she's actually doing seem to be out yet. Mikoto's storyline is likely happening next novel but who knows? Maybe she goes completely bonkers soon after she lands the AAA
Hang on. Do Mikoto's eyes look a little blank and unfocused in that illustration to anyone else upon closer look? Am I maybe seeing things or if I'm not, maybe the expression was unintentional
>From Stiyl Magnus !TKgDHVsABc : http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/145427372/#q145434683
>"If you dice me into mincemeat, you'll lose the key too. I'm asking if you're fine with that. The odds are one to ten thousand, one to a hundred million. It is written that he could never return. But if there's a key that may overturn that... Will you cut it Kamisato Kakeru's last life line with your own hands?"
>"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHELP ME KANZAKIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
They told me threads will be good when there's new content.
Summary made it seem like AAA girl (which is now confirmed to be Mikoto) appearing and Touma getting closer to Element/heatwave mastermind (now confirmed to be Yuiitsu) are separate events
In other words, it could be that Mikoto isn't near Touma and not pulling out the AAA for his sake
Which means she's either taking care of something like a Element/heat power source or Element queen OR being manipulated by Aleister
I find pitiful how some Mikoto fans craved hard for Mikoto having some kind of awakening like Accelerator yet they are fine with some Infinite Stratos rip off.
In the other hand it's a nice for damage control from Kamachi to appease fantards.
Miki of course.
I just want her to be relevant, and the only way for that to happen is for her to be strong. Her being strong will also shut up all the faggot shitposters who talk about how weak she is.
In this series everyone who thinks to be cool shit only can get rekt or get nerf.
Mikoto no matter how much of a marketing device she is isn't getting a power up.
She got a Spin Off and still does dumb shit or just isn't the protagonist.
Kamachi isn't into powerful characters as MC unless they got some weakness that make up for that and Mikoto is never going to get anything beyond dust on her body thanks to her Aegis Shield called Miki.
The series messages is to accept yourself and what you got. Discard the WSJ mindset Mikoto has.
Touma sure is a convenient protagonist. No matter how he grows or gets stronger, Kamachi could just negate his advantages. Being able to sense changes in AIM is worthless against Elements.
+1 for the Railgun girls and the power of friendship
Seems like an appropriate time for a friendly reminder.
>volume ends with another cliffhanger
England fucking when Kamachi?
Jesus I cannot stop laughing. I cannot possibly imagine how it must feel to be so patetically wrong about I something I honestly can't. I already knew you guys were idiots from the start but now you can all truly feel like one. I've said it Tina and time again I'll put my faith in the Railguns and they will not let me down! Even Kongou and her friends made the cut.
Has anyone appeared three novels and failed to get an illustration/design before? Even Himegami and one arc Railgun characters like Mitori and Rakko got designs quickly. Did your meme girl fail
This is only the beginning! Watch and see! when they realize how successful this next LN is they're going to include them more and more until they all have a cemented spot in the series. I'm going to but so much Kuroko merchandise! But guys really though, how does it feel to be that wrong? I've got to know? I've never talked to a fanbase that so so utterly wrong and pathetic before until now so forgive me if I'm being rude.
>Another cover bait volume as well
Let's see how hard the sales drop this time.
Ahh. The ignore game. I see. Recovering from being so horrifically and just plain wrong about something must be devastating right? Shall I give you all time to recover?
I want you all to know I'm eating a banana split right now. I literally went out and bout everything I need to have a personal party before I decided to start posting, you know.. because I deserve it. (It's called rewarding yourself)
>she gets mad at Touma for carrying a girl
For all we know it's a mixture of shocked concern for the girl and brainfreeze because it's Touma
We all know she goes full retard around Touma
Don't worry Uiharu. As hot as it is outside I'm sure you'll play a part in this LN.
It's a shocked face, like when Saten asked Touma to dance.
>and the boy disappeared from this world
AKA hey let's make Touma disappear so that the next LN can be strictly about Mikoto and her friends. You all know it's true but just like before you pathetic rats will not admit it until it's too late. What a joke. I'm literally smiling right now.
>Touma's hair keeps getting softer and softer looking.
Poor guy can't even afford his hair gel anymore.
I almost want what happens to her after she uses the AAA to be unknown. So Kamachi can do anything he wants without it feeling awkward. But that would lead to months of shitflinging too
As if anybody would take your word on anything. Unlike most people here I learn from the past.
Misaki being irrelevant is basically a pathetic delusion. They have been building her character up for a reason. Now if you said somebody like Othinus is going to be irrelevant who has already outlived her best moment by far and is no more use to anybody that's a different story.
The sole fact that she appears means that she's not irrelevant. No matter how many grumpy /a/nons claim otherwise.
If she was truly irrelevant she wouldn't have gotten a novel, railgun arc, figure, and more appearances in recent novels.
Call it fapbait, Kamachi being a faggot or whatever you want, but she's still there, unlike 90% of the girl cast (Kanzaki, Itsuwa, Lessar, Oriana, Orsola, etc)
Now you're just being hateful, imagine the series without any of the female characters. If you imagined that I think you now realize how stupid you sounded when you said that.
It's not really "as a group" if only 20001's especially fond of him.
Well, there was the Collective Will, but her treatment of him was fairly harsh. She's giving him a second chance, but if he fucks it up, he'll probably on his own.
You know. Things like Kuroko showing up in this LN.
The collective will cared enough to speak to him and tell him exactly how not to end up on his own. And she wasn't even that harsh. I'm sure he's much harsher on himself. Now whether he follows hire advice is another matter entirely
Yep and I don't know for sure but Saten hangs around her a lot so we might see her as well. They're basically all friends and this is their hometown.
It still wasn't exactly what I'd call "warm". The Will's treatment towards Touma and Accelerator are like night and day. With Accelerator, she gives stern warnings or makes fun of his methods. With Touma, she's warm, kind, patient and nurturing.
Well, it's only natural giving one basically killed half of her while the other saved the remaining half.
Going to watch Index for the first time, which order should I watch?
Airing or Chronological?
To Aru Majutsu no Index
To Aru Kagaku no Railgun
To Aru Majutsu no Index II
To Aru Kagaku no Railgun OVA EX
To Aru Majutsu no Index Movie: Endymion no Kiseki
To Aru Kagaku no Railgun S
To Aru Kagaku no Railgun
To Aru Majutsu no Index
To Aru Kagaku no Railgun S
To Aru Majutsu no Index Movie: Endymion no Kiseki
To Aru Majutsu no Index II
Don't know where the fuck the OVA goes here.
Airing order. Always airing order.
Actually her second conversation with him was kind of warm toward the end. And I don't think anything she's said to him is so childish as to be called "making fun of him"
I see it as "Fine. I accept you are trying to earn forgiveness. I'm open to letting you try. Here's some advice, take it or leave I'm not holding your hand but I'm not shutting you down, either." rather than "I don't like you at all and never will and can't wait to see you burn in hell" like some people interpret her words as.
Barring it being natural because Touma saved her, it further makes sense she'd treat them differently because they're different people and needed different things when she spoke to them
I don't agree with everyone called Mikoto a terrorist. I believe the term would actually be freedom fighter.
Thats good because he's ending up with Index anyways.
But she told Accelerator that she was after Touma. She said that directly. Besides, she's the accumulation of the Misaka Network's overall will, and the vast majority of them have the hots for him. Or rather, we've yet to see a single one besides 20001 express anything else.
Sometimes I wonder how long you all have been reading and watching anime and manga. When the girls name is in the title that girl wins. It's not really that heard. I guess knowing things like that just comes with experience though.
My bad I meant
Sort of like Touma when he was carting Kuroko around like a princess.
That "make a pass" line you're talking about was awkward. It wasnt to the conversation they were having. I don't see the Sisters feelings for Touma as anything more than hero worship and an elementary school level crush
The original plan was for each volume to have a different name. So Volume 1 was "A Certain Magical Index" and Volume 2 would have been something like "A Certain Something Something Deep Blood" or whatever.
His editor shot that idea down, though.
I thought I made it clear I was talking about Index but with this fanbase I guess you can never be careful enough.
Misaki a best. A BEST.
Only girl to kiss Touma. Only girl to grow her breasts out for Touma.
This is the couple I want to see. Best friend and best lovers.
She already accepted her loss. She's not a spoiled self-entitled cunt like Mikoto.
The thing about the Will is that she's the combined will of the entire Misaka Network. If only one Misaka had feelings for Touma, then those feelings would be less than 0.02% of the Will's own feelings.
Well, 10032 is the only one who has had any real reason to be attracted to Touma.
Of course, I subscribe to the viewpoint that all clones besides WORST and LO are basically the same person, and not truly human.
She uses mind control and essentially violates random people for her own personal gain. I like her but you can't ignore that.
You're technically right. But it'll probably be hard for people to start calling her a freedom fighter.
No, she just snipes at her and presses her buttons whenever the two are near each other.
With that having been said, I can't help but wonder about something.
NT12 and NT13 have Mikoto relating that Misaki is directly competing with her for access rights to Touma's school, which should be so far beneath the both of them so as to be off the map. And she never seems to wonder why this is the case, beyond Misaki poking at her just because.
Maybe slightly, but in the end the fact that they share memories through the network causes them to be infinitely less human than a real human. The vast majority of them have never even had an interaction with Touma yet they're obsessed with him. They're more like ants than people. There are slight differences between some of the ants in a colony, but in the end they are still just drones.
She's just bantering with Mikoto. Her mindset regarding her feelings with Touma is a lot more mature than anyone else's.
Nigga do you even know how it feels that the person you love forgets all about you and someone else takes your place?
That's world beta literally come true. If Touma got fucked hard going through that just imagine how much it hurts for Misaki.
What do you mean"Oh"? That's a big deal you know. It's not something to sweep under the rug.
Not defending her. You can call her a bitch for using her powers or messing with muh electric bitch for all I care, but you can't deny she's the most bro girl to Touma, even when he can't remember her at all.
There's something about Touma that just draws out the violent retard in every girl he interacts with. They're usually considerably more reasonable when not interacting with him.
Except for Mikoto and Misaki who wouldn't like each other much anyway.
Most of her minions follow her because they like and respect her, she doesn't force people under her control
She is a radical individual trying to infuse terror by openly destroying factories and important buildings, how is she not a terrorist?
No, she's a creepy stalker who thinks Touma should not be near another girl and attacks him whenever she's mad.
Misaki on the other hand even offers him naked girls to his enjoyment.
>I'm pretty sure Mikoto has the fembro role filled already.
>she doesn't force people under her control
>it's not a big deal
Yea but everybody doesn't have the ability to control people into doing their bedding completely like her and she uses it on random unsuspecting people. Nice try.
I'm not talking about her followers? This is called trying to change the subject.
>Yea but everybody doesn't have the ability to control people into doing their bedding completely like her and she uses it on random unsuspecting people. Nice try.
Yeah but that's just how her power works. There's just no other way around. For a mindcontroller she's pretty tame.
He's just going to have flat hair soon at this rate.
No more (you)s for you sir. Have a good day.
So if somebody had the ability to automatically break people's arms it would be okay to do it to random people because that's just how your power works and you're pretty tame because you could be breaking much more arms?
I guess it'd be Thor? But Thor survived the train and then just stopped fighting because he was satisfied.
I think the last actual win might be in NT 9 when he beat up fake-Aogami.
Hardly anybody else in the series does what Misaki does. That would be like Kongou walking up to a random girl and shooting her into a lake or something.
She made one of her friends eat a dozen eclairs after getting annoyed and regularly wipes other people's memories of embarassing things. This isn't someone using a tool of last resort, it's someone idly toying with the world.
I like her anyway.
So now you're saying that if you don't intentionally want to hurt sombody it's okay to invade their mind? That's not what friendship is about. Look at this picture. This is friendship.
Recently Touma has been winning primarily through the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP, which is a force more powerful than all the metaphysical bullshit in the world.
He should become a magical girl.
I've been saying this forever now. In almost any action series the power of friendship is more important than individual power. That's why the Railguns usually always come out on top,
MY SIDES CAN'T EVEN LMAOOOOOOOOO, HOW HAVE I NOT SEEN THIS
Misaka's power is inherently different and you know it. She doesn't use them to subjugate people to her whims. Misaki has a power that is quite evil in nature, it's literally the ability to strip people of their free will, and yet Misaki has no problems using it on whoever she wants.
Towards the end of this intro you see the power of friendship in action and Kuroko even saves Mikoto from dying at one point.
>misaki is more relevant than Laura
Reminder that Kuroko has appeared more in the last 5 LNs than your favorite magic side character.
>more relevant than all of the female magic side characters not named Index, Othinus or Birdway though.
You mean less relevant than Othinus, Birdway, Index, Laura, Lessar, Kaori, Itsuwa, Sasha, Carissa.
For the magic side, Misaki wouldn't even be in the top 5.
If you want to make Kuroko seem important then point out actual facts like being one of the only three female characters that have been the protagonist of an Index LN.
>This baiting nigga bitching at misakifags talking about misaki in a misaki-related volume
Tough luck, troublemaker
>Lessar, Kaori, Itsuwa, Sasha, Carissa.
Who were they again?
>misaki whose appearance are far and few between and isn't even involved in the main science side plot
>more relevant the than the majority of science femals
They are all two steps ahead of her just by knowing what magic is.
>more relevant than Misaki
You all forget! Unlike Misaki and Mikoto who basically become useless baggage (Misaki more in the chest) after they lose their ability Kuroko can still handle a couple bad guys with her fists.
These threads lead me to believe it. For the last few months it's all about science characters. Only a small group of dedicated magic supporters still survive like that Kanzaki guy.
>For the SCIENCE* side, Misaki wouldn't even be in the top 5.
Nice samefag. They received more attention and/or affected the plot more than Misaki. Deal with it.
>They received more attention and/or affected the plot more than Misaki
All Lessar did was beg Touma to fuck her. Kaori is so 2008. Itsuwa is in jail. Sasha is a literal who. Carissa was a meme villain.
>They received more attention and/or affected the plot more than Misaki
When was the last time any of them appeared? The half-assed fights in NT10?
Like it or not Misaki is getting way more attention and screentime than any of them.
He doesn't get time to rest. His fairy won't let him change his formula. His right hand only has two modes: situational passive defense mode and kill fucking anything nearby mode (which requires him to tear it off). Kamachi really likes to stack everything against this guy.
>the 20+ doujins of Misaki and Mikoto riding Touma's dick dry
This series knows whats good
>All Lessar did was beg Touma to fuck her.
Fought by Touma side and took part in fighting against GREMLIN, which is more than Misaki could dream of doing.
>Kaori is so 2008
Not being recent doesn't make her past relevant and affect on the plot irreverent.
>Itsuwa is in jail
Nice meme. She saved Touma's ass more than Misaki.
>Sasha is a literal who
A side character that had greater impact than Misaki thanks to plot making her relevant.
>Carissa was a meme villain.
And yet she induce changes and affected the magic side plot in a lasting and major way. Some meme villain she is, amirite?
>When was the last time any of them appeared?
Not being seen recently doesn't invalidate what they have done. Misaki could have all the shoehorned appearance you want and still be less relevant for doing nothing but small things.
>Fought by Touma side and took part in fighting against GREMLIN
What did she do again? I only remember Index, Mikoto, Leivinia and Touma doing all the work.
>Not being recent doesn't make her past relevant and affect on the plot irreverent.
She's literally Stiyl tier relevant.
>Nice meme. She saved Touma's ass more than Misaki.
>A side character that had greater impact than Misaki thanks to plot making her relevant.
Like being felt up by Touma? Where's her character arc akin to Misaki's?
>for doing nothing but small things
Nigga she saved Touma's life. And since when is a character's worth measured from their role in the plot? So, index is great and aleister is the best just because they "matter" more?
>She dresses like a slut anyways.
That's precisely why we need them.
>Misaki wouldn't even be in the top 5.
How so? Putting the marketing whore Mikoto aside, only LO, Mugino and Saiai can be argued to be more relevant, and Misaki is easily more developed and fleshed out than those three.
She's not? It's no different than her everyday outfit. Not like Mikoto and Kuroko.
>What did she do again?
Go read WW3. Lessar was by Touma's side for the longest time when WW3 broke out. It's not a stretch to say Touma wouldn't have gotten as far as he did without her help and knowledge. She appear again in NT8 and she contributed in knowledge and helped beat enemies Touma couldn't handle, but more important she had a helping hand in taking down the big bad organization that encompassed most of NT.
>She's literally Stiyl tier relevant.
Poor argument that doesn't actually refutes the point.
Call me when Misaki fought off someone like Acqua twice and against magic cabals and an army of nuns and got tangled up in the coup d'etat that spanned a major arc.
>Like being felt up by Touma?
Sure, it's not like being the catalyst for Archangel Gabriel didn't mean anything to the story on a grand scale. Nope.
Mikoto, Fremea, LO, Sisters, and Mugino all had greater plot relevance to Aleister, character development that coincides with story advancement or of influencing protagonists, or contributed to affecting the scale for Touma's sake.
I really hope you pathetic freaks aren't posting in complete silence?
She is fleshed out in Index too.
So she was just Touma's random sidekick at the time. What a feat. She's so relevant Kamachi literally forgot she met Mikoto in Railgun SS2 and just characterized her as Touma's drone in NT8.
>Call me when Misaki fought off someone like Acqua twice and against magic cabals and an army of nuns and got tangled up in the coup d'etat that spanned a major arc.
So the bigger the powerlevel the more relevant one is?
>Sure, it's not like being the catalyst for Archangel Gabriel didn't mean anything to the story on a grand scale. Nope.
So she's a plot device.
She's vastly more fleshed out and developed than Mugino. What do you even know about Mugino other than she's a crazy bitch who used to be Kakine's punch bag? Saiai is better characterized than Mugino but she doesn't even have a character arc while Misaki has 2.
Strangely enough I unironically think See Visions is a better intro than No Buts.
She's barely above minimum levels in Index. Other characters before and after her had/have more.
Raildex is for our convenience. Index is the main story that matters most. Railgun is a spin-off and it expands the setting and introduces new characters, but it doesn't affect the grand scheme of things.
>being retard and new
>Other characters before and after her had/have more.
Yeah but how many of them are science side girls? Just Mikoto.
And everything that's canon matters when talking about the characters. Mikoto would be just another generic tsundere if it wasn't for Railgun.
>it doesn't affect the grand scheme of things.
Are you that same nigga that has been obsessed with relevance all the damn thread? The claim was about Misaki's character development, no one was talking about the "grand scheme of things".