ssjb trunks when?
For the dumbass that said Goku didn't care about Goten in the last thread.
>Black turns Super Saiyan Pink
>Goku jobs to him
>Vegeta shows up
>fights evenly for a bit before jobbing
>Trunks shows up as well
>turns SS Blue
>fights evenly with Black
>starts to lose
>suddenly removes his armor
>is wearing Vegeta's pink Bad Man shirt
>Black is defeated by the superior pink
I think DBZ has better art than Super and I still think the one on the right looks dumb.
Give me your opinion on this matter.
My understanding of japanese isn't the best but I think these green rings are related to Trunks time traveling to the past.
You know what bothered me about the Buu Arc the most?
>Buu seemingly kills Gohan
>Goku returns to the afterlife
>Buu kills everyone on Earth
>Buu kills Chichi, Bulma, Videl, and everyone else in the cast
>basically everyone on Earth is dead
>Gotenks and Gohan still fuck around while fighting him
What does it take to get Saiyans to stop being assholes?
those are rings that are created because of alternate timelines forming.
a new green ring was formed when "someone" tampered with the flow of time. It is hypothesized that Trunks is to blame for the new timeline/ring being formed.
If the spic subs I watched are right, then the green rings are ones that were, illegally used to travel back to the past and change it, thus creating alternate histories like Future Trunks did. The normal ring can only go to the future and return to the same time they left from.
Gotanks was because he was a mix of actual children who wanted to fulfill a superhero archetype.
Gohan just let his pride fuck him over, again.
I think given the chance Future trunks would never let shit like that fly.
Or just let tien train people, he never cared for showboating
That's a kid thing not a Saiyan thing fool. Besides when Gothenks saw Buu killed everyone he got serious and they were moments away from defeating Buu but SSJ3 shorten the fusion timeline.
Didn't fuck around, he got caught by surprise when Buu nuked himself and his abortion power.
Whenever you like it or not Toriyama stopped caring for Goten and Trunks even when in RoF he called them the future protectors of the planet, just to make Goku and Vegeta complain in EoZ.
that transformation makes no sense
trunks went to that form when he had long hair after a year of training now he has short hair again so the form should reflect this. Its not like goku's or vegeta's hair increased by that much when they went super saying ascended
>actually thinking this
ah a delusional gokufag makes sense never mind then. carry on
>Whatever you say dude
Or just being delusional or salty? I'm talking seriously. Toriyama dropped the ball even when he teased them in RoF, or what did happen in your delusional world?
>Mai dreaming with Trunks.
What an insatiable woman.
Not worth making a thread over so I will ask here - I just started watching original Dragonball.
Do I just continue all of it (assuming there aren't any filler eps) and then watch Z? I was told to just skip GT. I'm enjoying original DB at the moment.
>Like Vegeta who didn't stop to save anyone did?
That was needed so Gohan and Gotenks weren't able to fight anf kill Kid Buu. Doesn't erase for Goku is better to save Mr. Satan and Dende than his own blood.
>just skip to GT
I like GT and I wouldn't recommend that. just watch DB then Z. if you're not tired of DB by this point go to GT
She's so fucking thirsty for F Trunks.
>just don't care
Then your reply >>145316088
But I'm curious, tell me what you feel about EoZ or how you interpreted it or you just pretend everything you don't like isn't canon. Are you that Gokufag that said Goku loved Pan the most and trained her when Super proved you wrong?
Would I really watch it for the music, though?
Sounds good, thanks.
I look forward to it!
I assume it's also worth reading the manga so I might try that.
Does anyone have a screenshot of Vegeta while he was sitting at the table when everyone was eating near the beginning of the episode? His head was bigger than his body in that scene and I couldn't stop laughing.
DB Super should be called 'The Goku and Vegeta Show' because those two are the only ones that get the focus in this series.
What a fucking waste of great characters like Krillin, Tien, Piccolo, Gohan, Future Trunks, all who shined in DB and/or DBZ.
Power level scale is too ridiculous that even half-saiyans are useless now.
Future Trunks seems like he'll get to do stuff, but you're otherwise spot on.
Hell, Beerus and Whis sometimes get to do a little universe building, but most of the time they're just getting snacks.
Super will never cater to you Gohanfags, either give up and quit watching or stop whining about the same shit week after week.
I mean, how long has it been since Super started? Over a year?
You're gonna have to get over your retarded selves.
>He says in an arc where Future Trunks is pretty much the MC
Goku fights Pinck Saiyan. Where's FTrunks in here?
>Episode 55 " I want to see Son Goku. A request for Zeno sama
>Episode 56: " The Rematch of Goku vs Black! Super Saiyan Rose appears!!
>Episode 57: "Goku, Super Saiyan Blue"
FTrunks is just the focus for the SoL.
Me neither. I want to
hold his hand and tell him everything is daijobuto him.
>Why couldn't Vegeta reach Trunks? He didn't stop to save them.
Yes, Vegeta could, but guess what would had happened if Gohan or Gotenks would had been present when Goku and Vegeta fought Kid Buu. Vegeta being retard was just a plot device.
>Where's FTrunks in here?
How should I know just by the episode title only?
>FTrunks is just the focus for the SoL.
good thing Future Mai gave him some comfort.
>Super will never cater to you Gohanfags
And where is anyone saying Gohan is going to be in the spolight? You think anyone think Gohan is going to be relevant in DBS? As a Gohanfag I hope he never appears ever again, Super can't do anything well.
You should eat your pills, autistic fag.
Last week you were saying Vegeta was going to train FTrunks to give him the chance to fight Black Goku, the tittles for next episode is a resume of what is going to happen. Just like always. Now you are saying in the next episodes FTrunks will do shit.
This already happened for another character.
>As a Gohanfag I hope he never appears ever again
And yet you'll still bitch about him not getting any action every single week. Quit playing the victim, you autists have been doing this for a full year now.
>Last week you were saying Vegeta was going to train FTrunks
No I wasn't.
>Now you are saying in the next episodes FTrunks will do shit.
I'm saying I don't know dumbass
>How should I know just by the episode title only?
>This already happened for another character.
That was filler.
it's amazing how accurate her imagination is
She would be so jealous of F Mai if she sees her with F Trunks
>Super can't do anything well
I don't know, it's pretty good at BTFO'ing Gohan plebs like you.
>And yet you'll still bitch about him not getting any action every single week
Nice bait. You get a (You) just because it made me laugh.
>it's pretty good at BTFO'ing Gohan plebs like you.
>Beerus arc Super animations are dogshit
>animation and art quality gradually gets better and better
>Super starts out by only focusing on Goku and Vegeta and shits on other chars
>Super now trotting out Future Trunks and hinting at more characters joining the fray, slowly
I think anything is possible at this point, even Gohan becoming a competent fighter again. To think otherwise, at this point, I believe is pure shitposting.
>take off that goddamn beanie
Black already took care of that.
>That was filler
Just as all the time screen FTrunks is getting in these episodes.
Based spics catering to my favorite crack pairing
>I think anything is possible at this point, even Gohan becoming a competent fighter again.
>Super now trotting out Future Trunks and hinting at more characters joining the fray, slowly
You still have hope? How? Anon, I'm a Gohanfag, don't make me post Toriyama's comment on Gohan.
it's too bad they didn't allow F Mai to visit the past.
Her and black have to wait until they finally return to the future
>Gohan fans continue to be outraged at how he lives happily with his beautiful wife and child, in a big house, pursuing his dream job.
>ha ha... ha..
Anon, just give up, no one wants to shitpost with you with Gohan anymore. Is okay to give up. You can fight with Trunksfags now. They are getting the same treatment by Toriyama and Toei.
>friendzoning Kid Trunks
>in love with F Trunks, who is just Kid Trunks but older
>would probably get jealous of her future self for being F Trunks' girlfriend/wife
Damn, that must be pretty fucking confusing for Kid Mai.
But drawing Gohan’s daily life made me gradually realize he likes studying more than fighting (laughs). Later on he even lost his dogi (laughs).
Now he’s fulfilled his childhood dream and become a fine scholar.
>My understanding of japanese isn't the best but I think these green rings are related to Trunks time traveling to the past.
I think they aren't because they are from Universe 10, Future Trunks is from Universe 7.
>becomes a fine scholar
>still don't want field he's in
it'd take 2 minutes to just mention it. thats all I want.
Gohan published a book called “Groundbreaking Science” around Age 800, which appears to have taught the general population concepts such as ki control; he also explained how the Katchin metal (which was used to test the Z-Sword) could indeed be cut, which led to a new-found interest in swordsmanship, as well as Goten and Trunks founding the Kikoukenjutsu Sword School which teaches how to infuse blades with ki to overpower opponents
That's because it's a complete dead end for his character and a promise that he will do nothing.
>You should feel happy for him!
Bullshit. He's a fictional character created for entertainment. There's no reason to get invested into his character if he's not going to fight. His normal life brings nothing of value to the story.
The way they worded it is very vague. The older Universe 10 Kai said that the green ones were the rings created from time divergence which do confirm with Future Trunks traveling to the past and altering the course of the supposed history. However, he also mentioned that another one appearing which may or may not refer to the current arc or maybe refer to the entirely to Future Trunks's involvement.
I figure that time travel is something that's happened many times before, enough to make the gods pissy about it. I don't think Gowasu was making a reference to Trunks when he was talking about the rings. He was probably talking about someone else, someone from his Universe as it would make more sense.
Let me get this right, the green rings are created/formed in the box when someone (no one knows who and from any race from the universe) travels in time and fuck some shit up, resulting on the creation of a new timeline? or are they created ONLY when a kaio travels to the past?
I want screen time for my favorite character he can be something like Bulma. He doesn't need to be in the fights getting bloodied up.
>His normal life brings nothing of value to the story
what? his saiyaman shenanigans are the best episodes
Black is future Goten being controlled by Zamasu. It would explain why Goten hasn't prominently shown up in a while.
>It would explain why Goten hasn't prominently shown up in a while.
no its chichi
toriruining Goten with studying for zero reason.
Nice there, feeding the shitposters. And why do you want him after watching how every time he is on screen Toei shits on him more and more? I like him, I despite the flanderization he is suffering and I want him to stop appearing to avoid more crap. Hell, I hope Videl stops appearing too, Pretty Doll Empty Shell Videl disgusted me.
The art and ost in this arc has been pretty good so far. Now if only the animation and fight choreography would follow.
This is the most intelligent post in this thread. So many autistic retards who can't grasp this simple fact that it's a show made to entertain. A fighting series nonetheless. Of fucking course people want him to fight.
But autistic retards who get into a character too much can't grasp that. Although, ironically, if Vegeta settled down next episode, wished back planet Vegeta with the balls and went over there to rule with his father and you never saw him again, you'd have the same faggots making fun of "Gohanfags" outraged just the same.
Nah moving away is too good for him. I want him to fight Black thinking that he can protect his family or something but instead get BTFO by Black and videl got Blackened. The tear of Gohanfags will be delicious then.
no you fucking dipshit I don't think you know what canon means.
Canon means original publication, it doesn't matter if Toriyama was part of the video game, it is not officially part of the manga's timeline.
Even in the newly released "official" timeline that Jump released they completely pretend the game never existed.
This is the most intelligent post in this thread. So many autistic retards who can't grasp the character's motivations or just don't care about them.
>The art and ost in this arc has been pretty good so far
Episode 49 had quality everywhere. Meme Bulma being the most famous of it.
Episode 50 had Goku and Black: the quality fight.
Episode 51 was the same.
Episode 52 was fucking bad, the entire episode was quality.
The future scenes are the only ones with okayish animation. So stop lying, My Superfriend.
It's funny how at this point you are just talking with yourself and that anon still think Gohan is going to be relevant. You two should move with your lives.
so does he still have his raging retard moments as a nerd? we know he has an explosive temper. I'd love to see him go rage mode on some dude who steps on Pan's toys at the park or something
theres no way Gohan would lose his raging temper. its pretty much as much of a part of his character as him being a scholar.
Is there really any doubt that Vegeta is the best Father?
Goku: Let's Goten fuck off into oblivion. Gives up on and loses respect for Gohan. Abandons his family from brown trash.
Vegeta: Enraged over what Black has done. Cares about his kids. Motivates F. Trunks when he is down.
He is right, though. Goku shits on Gohan in the anime and manga, Vegeta is the only one that speaks for Gohan. And Vegeta is only going to become a good father the day he starts training with PTrunks again.
don't even bring it up if we are talking about mangastream translations. pic related.
Literally animelabs all over.
>In the manga he put an annoyed face
You barely even see his face, quit reaching.
Since Goku Black is the one who fucked all this shit up and is probably a Kai/someone empowered by the Kais to genocide this planet don't the Gods owe FTrunks a wish or something when all this is said and done
Kuririn founded the “New Turtle School”, which taught humans how to fight alongside each other in groups to take advantage of their collective strengths, allowing them to compete against stronger, individual enemies
Tenshinhan believed it was more important to to develop individualized attacks than with support from others, and developed new attacks that revolved around collecting ki in strategic ways to unleash incredible bursts of energy with precise timing
In Age 790, Majin Boo accidentally found Mr. Satan’s “Bob & Margaret” adult book, and used it to form ideas about female mates and ultimately create his wife, “Booby”, from a part of his own body, and also hit her with his “Love Beam” causing her to give birth to a “Baby Boo”; the family grew quickly, and was later recognized as its own race
So this entire arc wouldn't have happened if Goku didn't anger Zamasu and give him a negative opinion of filthy ningen? Nice going Goku.
all I want is for Ftrunks and Vegeta to actually do something instead of job
Goku will defeat Black, Goku will be the star of the next arc and every arc afterwards, and you'll keep watching right up until the end.
He should stop questioning the creator, he's asking to get erased.
And his grievances are extremely moronic and childish. "HURR WHY DOESN'T PERFECT PEACE EXIST EVERYWHERE".
super is shit too. I'd rather have fun toei filler like driving school episode.
also this gowasu is a fucking retard.
he literally tasted the corruption on zamasu, but instead of doing something about it he shows zamasu the rings, he even gives him one earring.
>Vegeta says he'll train Trunks
>unfairly transforms into all-out God mode and just beats the shit out him
>gets salty and walks away when Trunks manages to headbutt him while he's distracted
Nice """training""", I'm sure Trunks is a lot stronger now!
my guess is black will beat goku who underestimates him.
Vegeta won't let Trunks fight because he still hasn't mastered the new form but will lose
causing Trunks to Finally achieve his new form and finish black off
Superfags really should know better than to play the cherrypicking game.
>he'll think that SSB is just his base form with increased ki since he's blue already
Most likely someone else, alternate universes simply don't share the same history so there is no way trunk's history could happen in U10.
which also makes one wonder what the fuck is Black doing in U7
>Mai will never hold you while you sob over your dead mother
Why even live
The "right frame of mind" isn't gonna be enough to save his world though. And you know the big battle is starting soon, it's literally starting two episodes from now.
If that nigga doesn't go into the Hyperbolic Time Chamber he's fucked.
>alternate universes simply don't share the same history
We don't know that creating parallel timelines doesn't also make parallel versions of all the other universes as well. It could, and then we'd be looking at alternate gods of destruction, and even alternate Zenos. Given that, it's easy to see why the gods would get pissed at time travel, since you're basically creating beings that rival them in power, and in Zeno's case, it's likely the only way to do so, which I imagine he'd want to avoid
While I agree that timeline splits probably happen to all the universes at once, I somehow doubt it will apply to Zeno who seems to exist outside of and above everything in existence.
>Gowasu mentions the new time ring, likely created due to Trunks's actions.
>Gowasu is way too trusting of Zamasu despite the obvious anger.
>Black seemed really interested in hunting Trunks down and chased him for a year.
>Black appears in the universe where the alternate timelines are a problem.
Gowasu seems like he has a
Why would time travel create alternate versions of the other universes if there is nothing in those universes to be different? Trunks, Goku, androids, Cell, etc. all don't exist in universe 10, so what exactly would be "alternate" about a new one? Seems to me like the only thing time travel could cause would be exact copies of the other universes.
>Why would time travel create alternate versions of the other universes if there is nothing in those universes to be different?
Because universes in the DB world operate more like galaxies in that they're all physically in the same realm of existence. They're literally giant spheres that are all next to each other.
Time encompasses all of them combined, so when a person in one universe creates a parallel timeline it's affecting the other universes too.
He's a shit father. Just get over it, trips.
The ENTIRE REASON there was a line about a Time Ring appearing because someone recently created a parallel timeline is so that people won't be confused when they later see Black going to F Trunks' time after Zamasu creates him.
Hey that's what I said. Lol.
I'm okay with the idea of the universes being connected through time. But what exactly would be created out of, say, universe 3, when Trunks time travels? An alternate timeline of universe 3, or just a copy of it? If an alternate version is created, what exactly is alternate about it, given that none of the things that changed in universe 7's alternate version are even physically present?
Finish Dragon Ball, watch Dragon Ball Z Kai (the shorter, all canon version of Z) and then watch Battle of Gods and Revival of F, then start at the tournament arc in Super.
Do not watch GT.
Also just sayin', but that picture could simply be an abstraction for easier understanding. The black "space" may not be space per se.
I mean those "universes" are composed of a single galaxy.
If time universally applies to multiple galaxies then it would also apply to multiple universes in the DB world. They're not different dimensions or different planes of existence, they're all physically next to each other.
Who are more annoying are shitposters like you. You went through the the trouble of picking out Gohan specifically from that list. Lol.
Was it? I thought it took place in U6. If it was indeed between universes, what's with all the galaxies floating around? Why did the dragon clearly come from inside a galaxy? Why can't you see both universes from that "space"? And why do you assume they share "time"?
When DBZ's animation is bad it's bad, but when it's good it's really good. The difference is when Superman's animation is bad it's really bad and when it's good it's only okay.
I'm a Superfag and I think that Z has better animation and fluidity than Super overall.
That being said, Z WAS visually shit half the time. Uchiyama's episodes were fucking awful and he did a very large percentage of them.
>when he's around he's throwing you into deadly monsters
>beats you. i mean trains you
>doesn't know you very well
>but thinks he does
>a good dad
you can't make up things like that anon.
considering everything that has happened until that point it was a good thing to do, I'm doubting you understand these things called "hard decisions" instead it has to be "lmao hes a bad dad amirite guise xD"
I really don't have many problems with Super at all, and I think the problems people do have with it are generally exaggerated complaints from kids who expected an edgier plot or wanted Gohan to be in the spotlight.
You can't without a magic whis spaceship or whis himself. Time could work on bubbles. Maybe the space between universes has it's own time.
There's a billion ways it could work. And I'm not convinced the space between them is physical. WAS the U6 arc between universes? Because everything indicated it was inside a universe, unless there's galaxies between universes too.
Anyone else holding a grudge against goku could still come after his friends and family. Piccolo did not appear because of Goku. Frieza would have come to earth regardless because Krillin and the rest were fucking with his plans.
And Majin Buu could have appeared regardless, so it's not like his leaving prevents bad shit from happening.
Not only that, but if Goku was still dead, no one could have stopped Frieza the second time.
It's not, but if Z's worst is comparable to the average of Super, then Super's overall quality is worse.
>Also Super's recent episodes have improved tremendously there.
I don't think you've been watching recent episodes.
The vast majority of complaints I've come across has been some variation of "Why didn't this character get more action", "Why is Goku being silly" and "Why is this so lighthearted".
>There's a billion ways it could work. And I'm not convinced the space between them is physical. WAS the U6 arc between universes? Because everything indicated it was inside a universe, unless there's galaxies between universes too.
Name one. It is. It was. There clearly is.
Fucking pay attention before trying to spread your retarded headcanon.
>but if Z's worst
Uchiyama's episodes were not Z's worst, they were Z's average. He's worked on more episodes than nearly every other animation director who was involved in Z.
>I don't think you've been watching recent episodes
I've tuned in to every episode in the current arc.
>Name one. It is.
Different areas with separate time. The space between universes being outside the timestream.
>It was. There clearly is.
If it is, what's the difference between a universe and the space between them? Since the U6 tournament clearly took place within a large galaxy.
>Why is this so lighthearted".
Watch Arale, DB and you could read A Bride's Story (shota x Oneesan), Lighthearted series can be good when the story is interesting. Super is just the fanfiction of a senile man that don't remember his own creation.
too many replies for me to sort through. did anyone post what emperor-chan said at the end about goku?
I'll admit Goku was borderline retarded in the episode he challenges Zamasu, and maybe there are a couple of other examples, but in the vast majority of Super's episodes his personality is no different than what it was in the Buu arc.
You have to be a retard to deny it. Z Gpku was a man that wanted a heir to be allowed to chill in the otherworld, DBS Goku is a retard that likes to eat and fight, he doesn't care for anyone but him and needs mommy Beerus to keep him in check.
>his personality is no different than what it was in the Buu arc.
Buu saga Goku loved to tease Vegeta, DBS Goku is just a retard that doesn't know why Vegeta gets annoyed at him.
>Also, whatever happened to Vegeta being chill with Goku after Buu?
He IS chill with Goku, his desire to surpass him has just become a competitive rivalry instead of an end-all-be-all obsession. Vegeta is a better father than Goku ever was and he formed a genuine bond with Cabba.
>No point, you're clearly gonna try to boil it down to something along those lines anyway.
Ah, so you're worried that it'll fall into those categories.
Well, thanks for saving me the time.
>Goku himself was a very different character.
>Don't even bother, remember we're debating with faggots who likely grew up watching Toonami's Z.
Yeah because I'm sure you were watching bootleg fansub tapes in 1997 you fucking elitist faggot
>The anime is what made him seen intelligent and even good.
Off with you.
yeah exactly a retard who only cares about fighting well at least until the universe as at stake. he constantly puts the universe at risk. honestly i'd argue that vegeta is more of a hero than goku.
>/fit/ as fuck
>dumb but curious, naive, extremely friendly
>is basically impossible to get embarrassed
>doesn't care about casual nudity, would walk around naked if you let her
>probably would be up for some kinky shit
Let me guess you are one of those faggots that shit on DBZ's filler.
>vegeta's head in the middle pannel
I'd rather a girl Trunks.
>posts a panel of Goku acting retarded over winning rock-paper-scissors to fight Buu first
>posts a panel of the Kaioshins outright calling him an idiot
WOOOOW nice rebuttal, faggot.
>yeah exactly a retard who only cares about fighting well at least until the universe as at stake
>thinking I was implying Goku is a hero
No wonder you like Super so much, your reading comprehension is zero.
Are you like the fag above?
Wait, so if this is somehow supposed to be about altered timelines and shit, shouldn't the shows main universe be the one that's getting purged, considering that it is the one with the altered timeline?
'cause FTrunks timeline is the actual original timeline, or as close as we have seen it to be.
Hell fucking yes.
lmao he madd
well you might have not been impyling he's a hero, but he isn't intilligent and really cares about fighting more than anything else until existance as a whole is at risk.
>another thread of Zfags vs. Superfags
Lmao, the Superfags are actually winning this one.
She'd be even more broken than regular Trunks.
literally my waifu before it was cool.
>he isn't intilligent and really cares about fighting more than anything else until existance as a whole is at risk.
This gave me the answer, well off with you.
Don't forget, she'd eat just about anything you'd cook for her.
If you could keep up with her appetite.
More for you.
>why are you defending this so much?
Because it show in your retarded face even Toriyama gave Goku development, which Super ignores because;
Toriyama forgot about it.
Toei is trying to recreate GT Goku and failing.
>you've literally showed nothing.
Are you trying to say I wanted to show how Goku was the best hero ever again? You have to be stupid if you can't see the different from Buu saga Goku, only the most reard author wouldn't give his characters development.
Why are Z plebs so terrible at understanding and comprehending Toriyama's characters?
>actually believing Goku isn't a fucking idiot and is interested in being a hero or that Gohan is interested in fighting
Seriously, don't you faggots have Bruce Falconer soundtracks to be raving about on Gamefaqs right about now?
I have no idea who could be behind this post
he was a retard at the start of z and a retard at the end of z. goku has always been a retard who has put fights over protection. the only difference in buu saga goku and before is that he was dead and wanted other people to take the mantle of "protector" now that he's alive again he doesn't have to worry about that.
>Implying nursing her back to mental wellness isn't worth it
>he only difference in buu saga goku and before is that he was dead and wanted other people to take the mantle of "protector"
Look at the page I posted study Goku's aptitude and maybe your brain can get it. DBS Goku is just GT Goku done wrong.
She'll wake up in a cold sweat every night, panicked and terrified.
She'll never forget this face for as long as she lives.
And your babydick could never satisfy her after what she's been through.
People have hard times comprehending simplicity
>Donald Trump says something edgy
>Media spends a week talking about it
>Trump is now at 2 billion dollars worth of free publicity through news outlets
>Over time bias accumulates
>As bias accumulates, people get fed up, and the media actually pushes more people towards Trump.
Simple tactic. Media doesn't get it.
Thank you kindly, good sir.