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>The new album is out now!
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>doesn't post the link
https://mega.nz/#!lMFExbQb!JCfFqWs13zWoueib25klTo2UBr5vd3tP0YS2YXvBQIQ
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>>145280023
price?
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GIRI GIRI
MADE LOVE FOREVER
NOGARERU HODO UTAEBA
TAMASHII WA TOMUROU MAKI
YEAAAAAAAAHHHH

SORE DEMO MADA SAKEREBA
IKIRU KOTO NI TAGIREBA
SONO SAKI WA
HAMETSU NO JUNJOOOOOOOU
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
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>still no freyja solo for bokura no senjou

fucking hell
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>>145280023
The heads are far too large for their bodies in this image.
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Full OP needed about 200% more Mikumo stop holding her back.
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>>145280276
I cry with you anon.
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>>145280359
They gave her focus on 2nd ED and even gave her a solo ED, so it's fine.
I can't wait for this week's shinpi.
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>JUNJOU
>JUNJOU
>JUNJOU
>JUNJOU
>JUNJOU
>JUNJOUUUUUUU
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>>145280426
J
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J
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>>145280426
>>145280510
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Junna should be the singing voice for all the Walküre. There's just no competition.
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>>145280023
Fuck Freyja looks so hot in that outfit.
I want her to ride my dick while wearing it.
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>絶対零度θノヴァティック2、破滅の純情3、風は予告なく吹く

anybody able to read moonrunes? curious about what this song title is
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>Listen to Freyja solo of Giraffe Blues
>Cry like the Freyjafag I am

Precious Hoina just gets to me
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>>145280564
H-hayate, Is that you?
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>>145280564
Calm down Hayate
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>>145280549
Minoringo's voice is just as great, so fuck you.
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>>145280059
Dolphins?
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So any ideas on why Hayate's dad nuked the NUNS military base as well as a bunch of Windermerean civilians?
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>>145280611
Absolute Zero Novatic
Destruction of Innocence (can be also Purity or Pure Heart)
The Wind Blows without a Warning

They're separate songs, not just one whole title.
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What is the reason behind mikumo seeing the galaxy?

The mystery behind song of atlus decoded?
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>>145280635
meh, JUNNA's much more emotive
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>>145280683
Var or mind control.
It's hard to explain it otherwise.
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I have a feeling that the "main triangle" isn't actually the main triangle at all and it wasn't never intended to be.

Freyja-><-Hayate <-Mirage was made to distract us from the real one

Hayate-><-Freyja-><-Mikumo is actually the real triangle.

But not in the competition/shipping sort of way. More like they're both equally important aspects of Freyja.

The Hayate/Freyja side represents saving each other because of romantic love. And the Freyja/Mikumo side is saving each other by platonic love. Macross Delta is Freyja equally loving and saving both Hayate and Mikumo
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>>145280803
Not because it's strong and loud, doesn't mean it's emotive/expressive.
You can be expressive through singing even with a not-so-strong voice.
Minori is good in singing too, it's just that her voice is not as loud as JUNNA's.
And I'm a Shinpifag for your information.
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>>145280023
FUCK OFF WALKURE REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>145280747
>Destruction of Innocence
Other way around, it's the Innocence/Purity of Destruction.
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>>145280851
Kawamori already stated that mirage and Hatyate form 2 parts of the triangle.
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muh dick
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>>145281037
And I'm saying that while it's a triangle, it's not the "main one". The story does not thrive on it. If anything it thrives on the Hayate/Freyja/Mikumo one.

The Hayate/Freyja leg thrives off on romance and understanding

The Freyja/Mikumo leg thrives off on platonic love and helping each other come out of their shell
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does it have love thunder or whatever the song is called?
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>>145280627
>>145280628
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>>145280937
>Purity of Destruction
>mfw beautified genocide
Will this be sung when Windermere gets nuked by a billion X-9s?
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>>145281129

I'd like to know this as well
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>>145280023
>>145280059
Nice, very nice
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>>145281129
No
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>>145281069
That scene was really, really well done. One of my favourites in the movie.
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>>145280023
This is the OP2/ED2 single. Album with other new songs at some later point
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>>145281069
Myung shouldn't have won.
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>>145281267
You're right. Sharon should have.
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>>145281287
>mfw Sharon is my favorite Macross singer
The lack of good Sharon fanart/original images is seriously depressing.
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>>145281391
my nubian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvZ4xAle6r0
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>>145281391
Have this recent fanart, anon.
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>>145281514
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>>145281514
>>145281542
>Mirage/Keith

Yes!
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>>145281514
over the line
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>>145281514
>>145281542
Translations please, anyone?

Tbh I'm just waiting for Hayate to kiss Freyja's rune in the anime. We need some lewd action before Delta ends.
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>>145281574
The ship that will never be.

What a waste. I actually think Keith would be good for Mirage. He takes his job seriously, maybe too seriously, but he also has a more playful side.
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>>145281514
Would touching her rune be like slapping her ass?
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>>145281473
Thanks anon. Where'd you get it?
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Mirage is going to swoop in and win the Hoinabowl while Hayate is out cold, just you watch. She'll finally be relevant.
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>>145281574
THis one is actually Freyja/Keith.

>>145281722
>wanting Keith to end up with Mirage
Why do you hate him so much?
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>>145281722
What a waste indeed, they would go well together
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>>145281819
Welcome back, Messer-kun ~
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>>145281812
I didn't read it but dat gap
muh dick
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>>145281840
>>145281819
It's hilarious!
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So squid dissection next episode?
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>>145281787
Twitter, as usual.
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Freyja Wion is my godess.
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>>145281909
>Mikumo is quarantined on the Medical ship.
>Freyja started to sing 風は予告なく吹く on Elysion.
>Mikumo awakens to sing alone and blow up the Medical ship.
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Where is this hinting to?
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>>145280848
Maybe it's not VAR more like he needs to bomb the city because of them having VAR or virus.
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>>145281990
She is THE MACROSS. Whatever the hell that means.
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>>145281909
I think we can expect info dump episode, and maybe some character talking about their plan with face or heel turn.
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>>145281722
>He takes his job seriously

>he's an aerial knight
>on Windermere
>he does it for free
>he takes his job VERY seriously
>etc
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Did I hear "Frejya Attack" in the OP?

And Frejya giraffe solo is bliss
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Better stitch.
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Solo Wing Mirage will save the sector from those twisted songs
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>>145282038
>>145281909
It's definitely going to be an extremely important episode since Kawamori use his fake name "黒河影次" to supervise this episode.
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>>145282038
>Berger disclose the truth
>Mirage heel turns

Mirage will finally fulfill the role of solo-winged pixy!
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WALKURE ATTACK
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>>145282146
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>>145282038
>info dump episode
And fucking Jaka goes on his gay trip again to spend all his fansub bucks.

I will have to watch livestream again, not understand anything again and then post complete bullshit theories just like 95% of other anons who don't know moonspeak.
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>>145282146
Is this a wilderness survival episode?
>Mikumo just lures rabbits with her song and kills them
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GIRI GIRI MADE LOVE FOREVER
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>>145281391
Plus had a really great soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq_bRe83U3E
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>>145282125
And Kumo-Kumo too.
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>>145282129
It's the name that he mainly he used in the original SDF Macross for the episodes he was in charge of storyboarding.
That would be 11, 12, 17, 19, and 27.
It must have some emotional significance for him to be using it here.
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>>145282505
>must have some emotional significance
>Must be between mirage and frejya

Finally my dear mirage finally getting some development this coming episode!
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>>145282598
>implying
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At first I was iffy about people saying Hayate should be captured and therefore MIA this episode. But now I agree that this would be good.

The reason is that sadly Mirage does not benefit from being in Hayate's presence. Instead of helping her character flourish, it stumps her growth. Hayate is bad for Mirage because it belittles her to "I'm sad because I want his dick".

It'd be good if this episode gives focus on Mirage/Freyja interacting. I think Freyja could be a great catalyst in helping Mirage overcome her insecurities, which we already know Freyja is excellent at doing.
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>>145282208
Nice boobs you have there Freyja.
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>>145282093
It's 触れ合った.
Also the lyric is very HayaFre.
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No Walkure Birthday Song yet =(

GIRAFFE BLUES is good though.

I think I enjoyed Frontier's song more, like almost all of them were awesome, Delta's not that great but has much more songs though.
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>bokura no senjou

i'm enjoying this too much. send help.
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>>145281835
>Freyja/Keith
That's rare. I mean HayaFre are too strong at this point, even some BoguFre shippers gave up on their ship and go for BoguRei instead.
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>>145283165
Nips ship the hoina with everyone.
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Keith/Freyja is cute because they're both Hella gorgeous. Also they could bond over their love for ap'ju
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>>145283086
I think part of the issue are the transitions between verses. It sounds like they have the pieces to make great songs but something is out of place.
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>>145281287
>an AI should have won
Na
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>>145283288
or they could just bond as big brother/little sister.

I just want cute siblings interactions like Chuck's family. Keithshit will get his otouto killed at this rate.
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>>145282598
It's going to be very emotional when Mirage loses it and lunges at Freyja with a kitchen knife.
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>>145283351
the difference between the two series is Frontier's songs are more of the J-Pop side of music whereas for Delta is more towards Idolish catchy music.
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>>145283136
shhhhhh nothing but fold waves now
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>>145283535
Mirage will cut Freyja's rune
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OK /a/ let's settle this.

Which is better?
Normal Keith or eyepatch Keith?

I'm personally biased towards normal Keith. A face that gorgeous is absolutely criminal.
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>>145280426
Is it just me or this song is single is just not as good as in the anime?
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>>145283661

His eyepatch is really uncool looking. It's just a big gold-trim band-aid hanging Phantom of the Opera style off his face. Looks dumb.
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>>145283535
>freyja easily defeats her
they end up becoming the max and millia of the show
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>>145283661
Keith is shit both with and without eyepatch.
All Knights except for Cassim and Herman should die. Too bad it's not gonna happen judging by the amount of knight merchandise we got so far.
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>>145283596
i actually thought the song was meh. after episode 18 i am now too hype.
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>>145283756
Would Kawamori do it, the madman?
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>>145283742
Windermere royal knights spent all their budget to buy Roid's glasses.
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>>145283788
t. messer
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>>145283542
I don't know much about "Idolish catchy music" but aren't those J-Pop as well?

I only know songs from AKB (because of the anime) and Love Live/Idolmaster and most sounded like J-Pop to me (except some catchy-want-to-be-but-fail-hard ones).
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>>145283861
No
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I can't believe Freyja is actually the youngest Walkure. For some reason I always thought it was Reina. But Freyja is actually 3 months younger.
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>>145283916
It wouldn't kill you to play along, anon
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>>145283661
Normal Keith. Curse Hayate for ruining that gorgeous face.
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I didn't realize the new opening was this damn catchy until now. I can't stop listening to it.
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>>145282785
I prefer Mirage overcome by herself, but with Freyja's helping is not a bad choice either.
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>>145283861
i wish he'd do it
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>>145283086
>no God Bless you from EP 16 either
;__;
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>>145283943
fuck off
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>>145283542
Only Makina's songs actually sound idol-ish (in your context of "idol" where you simply meant denpa songs, because any popular singer is an idol)
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I enjoy Walkure's songs way more than Frontier's.

Ranka's songs were seriously shit, and while May'n is really good, even she couldn't save some of the songs with their absurd amounts of terrible engrish and nonsense lyrics.

It's basically like the good songs in Frontier were very good, but the shit songs were real shit, while Delta has songs that are good all around with no really shit songs.
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>>145282785
Mirage has basically been insignificant the entire season. Why bother even wasting episodes on such a boring character at this point. Focusing on Mikumo and leading into the final battle is much more important.
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>>145284280
Aimo and Ai oboete imasuka were good. Especially the ~bless the little queen version
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>>145280871
How would say JUNNA's voice range is?
Contralto?
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I don't think thats the whole album. Why only put 3 new songs, 2 giraffe blues soloes, and 5 instrumentals? We are still missing god bless you and some songs from their hacking concert.

It is just a leak, so there could be more coming on the actual album.
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>>145284407

Frontier only had one version of DYRL. And Frontier's DYRL was just the original one but slower and worse.

Also

>he liked Aimo

Are you serious?
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>>145284439
That's a single. That's all.
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>>145284424
Either that or Mezzo-Soprano.
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>>145284488
i actually like aimo too
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With Frontier, I listened to a few songs repeatedly on my playlist and skipped through the rest. With Walkure Attack, I'm listening to everything but Giritic without skipping. I really appreciate the variety.
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>>145280059
Holy shit. That triple not JUNNA hit during the ending of Novatic. Is she real? 10 out of 10 rarely do we see anime singers that are capable of singing in various ranges and pitches. I like Freyja, Kaname and Reina voice but it's the same one style anime voice. JUNNA sounds different in almost every song. Talent!
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>>145284488
>Frontier had only one version
Nope, two. The first one comes up when Alto and her find the old Macross on that planet and the 2nd one in the final episodes when she appears over the planet and starts singing DYRL.

>Are you serious?
Sure. I love to hear it when I get a window seat on the train.
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>>145284280
>Ranka's songs were seriously shit
no
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Seikan Hikou was the only Ranka song I actually enjoyed. The rest were pretty meh.

I guess my main problem with Ranka is the way they portrayed her like a child. She was 16 but dressed and acted like a 12 year old. And then we have Freyja who is 14/15 and acts mature beyond her age and actually dresses like a teenager.
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>>145284582

JUNNA is practically an animu character. Apparently all she cares about is singing and she's all quiet and shy when she isn't singing, then turns into a different person when she is. Hard to believe she's 15.
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>>145284488
What's wrong with aimo?
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>>145284568
All frontier movie's music are very good. They still have to top this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr9o-Nd0rmM
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Reina's "suki yo" kinda ruins Hametsu no Junjou. It just sounds so bored. Was that deliberate?
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>>145284721

It's shit. It's barely even a song. Half of it is nonsense. It's also overplayed so much it's Frontier's version of Planet Dance.
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>>145284582
You clearly need to listen to more songs.
There's many singers out there that can do different set of ranges too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdoFZ766Sw0&sns=tw
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>tfw I just downloaded the new album and really want to listen right now. But listening to ANISON since its once a month.
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>>145284763
Makina was actually decent in that song. She should sing like this or the one from the concert in episode 17 more often
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>>145284773
No it's isn't. Also, unlike Planet Dance, it was a slow song.

>Half of it is nonsense
>implying anime songs even have worthwhile lyrics
Also, it's meant to be half-Zentradi. Much like herself. You're being stupid.
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>>145284280
>Ranka's songs were seriously shit
Shit taste

>May'n is really good, even she couldn't save some of the songs with their absurd amounts of terrible engrish and nonsense lyrics

>Expecting good english from Japanese songs

Totally obnoxious. Expecting good English pronunciation from Japanese singers is ridiculous unless we are talking about May'J and a few notable ones. They are freaking japanese btw with great language barrier. Not to mention Mikumo's english pronunciation wasn't that great either in one of the songs.
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>>145284775
Ok but that doesn't disprove what I said. Not many singers, especially anime character singers are capable of that.
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>>145284488
>He liked Aimo
>Are you serious?
>Too bad you have shit taste
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>>145284913

You have no arguments to defend why Aimo was a good song besides "n-no you're wrong."

>>145284936

There's more engrish in Frontier songs.
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>>145284790
oh shit thanks for reminding me its on anon
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The only memorable song Rania had was "Open Ranka" and Sheryl had a few too but most of them. May'n really isn't that impressive in her own and the only thing that saves her was Yoko Kano. That's it desu Frontiers music was saved because they had a good composer
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>>145282785
>The reason is that sadly Mirage does not benefit from being in Hayate's presence. Instead of helping her character flourish, it stumps her growth. Hayate is bad for Mirage because it belittles her to "I'm sad because I want his dick".

Yeah I've noticed that too. This is a weird comparison but it reminds me of Cyclops in the original X-Men movie. He spent all his screen time whining about how Wolverine was banging his lady. It completely neutered his potential.

The exact same thing is happening to Mirage right now. What ever happened to that thing where she flies too by-the-books and needs to learn to be more spontaneous and unpredictable? That could have been a good little character arc for her and it went fucking nowhere because muh Hayate.
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>>145285053
No, this is one is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAWUue_Cf9g
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>>145285070
Mirage is nothing but wasted potential and that's sad.
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>>145285026
What the hell would I try to defend against your obvious bias and shit taste?
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>>145285026
>There's more engrish in Frontier songs.
You should listen to Neo Stream again.
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>>145285026
Nope. You, sir, simply have irredeemable shit taste.
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>>145285165

Then why should I give a shit about your shit taste, since you think Aimo is a good song? See, it works against you too. Enjoy your shit taste.
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>>145285249
Except I'm fine liking the song. You're the shitlord who somehow got triggered by someone else liking a song.
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I'm going to put it real simple as to why Hayate is bad for Mirage and how the romantic triangle is laid out.

Hayate to Mirage is portrayed as a weakness. Instead of giving her strength to flourish, Hayate's role in Mirage's plot makes her insecure and negative.

Hayate to Freyja is portrayed as a strength. Hayate is used as a driving force for Freyja to become stronger and face things head on.

That's the difference in the dynamic of the triangle. Mirage does not benefit from having feelings for Hayate at all. It's only holding her back and actually making her character development worse.
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>>145284936
The one who has quite a good English pronunciation is Megumi Nakajima https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gb_5u4Uoxc
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>>145285376

How autistic are you that you think everyone who doesn't have the same song preferences as you is "triggered?" Are you from tumblr or something, "shitlord?" In the end I don't give a shit if you like Aimo or not, but if you're going to reply to my post and tell me I have shit taste and Aimo is a great song, you should at least be able to back it up.
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>>145285218
>>145285165
This anon >>145285026, >>145285249 clearly is a Frontier hater who keeps on shit flinging about how he hates the song Aimo.

>>145285026
>There's more engrish in Frontier songs.
have a taste of neo stream.

Hey anon, since you care so much about 'engrish', have a taste of neo stream.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HSZYQNy2iU
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>>145285508

>shitflinging because I think one song is shitty

wew lad
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>>145285053
This. Most of the Frontier songs are held back by May'n.
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>>145284280
>Ranka's songs were seriously shit
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>>145285575
>Implying
There is good Ranka song in both the movies and TV.
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>>145285508
>neo stream
Those lyrics at least make sense. Unlike for example What 'bout My Star with it's messy lyrics straight from google-translate.
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>>145285575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uULjjKgHPkE
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>>145285427
That engrish is actually pretty good
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>>145285613

Name a single good Ranka song from Frontier TV besides Seikan Hikou.
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>>145284488
There were two version of DYRL in Frontier the one from the theatrical version of episode one and the second the "bless the little queen" version from episode 24.
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>>145283861
>looks at the past successes in character relationships
>decides he's tired of played out drama
>makes the triangle so weak that it exists in name only
>thinks back to what kinds of characters went over best and what drama was the most engaging
>Max and Millia
>hyper competent partners who click pretty quickly despite teething problems around their roles and history on either side of their factions' conflicts
>Hayate and Freyja
>hyper competant partners who click pretty quick other than a few teething problems that occur due to a revelation around their roles and connection to either side of their factions' conflict
>both omen still sympathetic to their side but determined to walk the path they've chosen with their partner
>both males are natural pilots
>both partners have awe inspiring battle synergy

>implying the mad man hasn't done it already
The only way he could do it MORE would be to replace Freyja's singing with piloting and her wave powers with brawling.
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>>145285473
Frontiers doesn't have good songs but Aimo was pretty nice.

>complaining about engrish in anime
>complaining about half alien lyrics
Let me guess you also hate Sharon.
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>>145285720
>Frontiers doesn't have good songs
>>145285661
>>145285126
>>145284756
Valkyrrrrrrrrriaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>145285626
>>145285661
I feel like I should clarify that I just agreed with the part about May'n. I liked Ranka and thought she carried most of the duets.
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>>145285682
Nekko Nikki, and Ao no Ether.

Most of Ranka's best songs though were all duets with Sheryl.
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>>145284488
>talking shit about Frontier
>didn't even know Frontier had 2 DYRL
Not that it didn't have bad songs but you're no one to speak.
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>>145283788
Bogue is for bullying, not killing.
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I like Lion and Diamond Crevasse.
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>>145285682
1) Ranka's version of My boyfriend's a pilot
2) Ranka's version of Do you remember love
3) Aimo Original version and Susume Frontier version
4) Dokun Dokun
5) What about my star

Most of her songs in the TV series are actually covers or features of other songs, while her actual songs are in the movies.
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Hayate and Freyja's relationship is portrayed as being so strong and full of understanding, that the "conflicts" they have to throw at them are all external and not having to do with their personalities or personal problems.

Basically their bond is put to the test by outside circumstances instead of personal problems between the two. That to me speaks volumes about why they're a good pairing.

Instead of having to "fight" against each others insecurities and drifting apart, they fight against the things that try to tear down their relationship.

If that's not the perfect example of what a healthy relationship should be, then idk what is.
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>>145285951

You just admitted Ranka barely has her own songs.

Ranka's DYRL isn't even good.
Aimo sucks.
You literally can't even remember the title of Ana to Oto, because the song is shit other than dokyun dokyun dokyun.
What 'Bout My Star is an absolute mess of a song.
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>JUNNA in Novatic
>JUNNA in Giraffe Blues
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>>145285575
No, they're not held back at all. NakaMegu's solo version of Lion was absolute shit, so was her version of Diamond Creavasse.

The problem with Ranka is that she sounds like a child and NakaMegu doesn't have any range as a singer. A lot of times with most of her songs what carries the power isn't NakaMegu's voice but rather the instrumentation.
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>>145285909
JUNNA and Minori singing lion at the wonder fest was amazing. The crowd was going crazy. I wonder if someone uploaded a video
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>>145285951
What 'bout My Star is a Sheryl song not a Ranka one, and it's also a duet.
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Why did they mean by "Mikumo - The Macross?"
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>>145286073
Walkure should cover "Sayonara no Tsubasa" instead.
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>>145286011
I actually prefer Ranka's two versions of DYRL to Freyja's (and I like Minoringo a lot).
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>>145286073
Fuck, really? I want that.
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>>145286045
And you think May'n has range? She does a decent performance at one specific type of song and does a dreadful performance with everything else.
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>>145286083
Mikumo is most likely going to take control of the Macross like Sharon Apple did. But on a large scale, she's probably going to fold all the Macross Ships and control them. Epic final boss battle
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>>145286073
When was that?
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>>145285991
But that's what makes them uninteresting to me. I mean, I don't dislike HayaFrey, but I'm just not that interested in their relationship.
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>>145286077

She sings it by herself in that episode where she's at the mall and sees Sheryl and Alto on a date. It's shit though because What 'Bout My Star is a crappy song that only barely works even with May'N singing it, so with Ranka singing it it's just embarrassing.
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>>145286115
It's a nice song but it didn't feel like there was that much singing in it.
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>>145286083
>Why
What*
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>>145285070
Did I write this post in my sleep? That Cyclops in the X-Men movies is pretty much exactly what I think of Mirage too, damn. I'm still mad at all the potential that was thrown away, to the point that they had to kill him off in the 3rd movie's first ten minutes... which is making me think of what could happen to Mirage, and please someone help save this girl! She deserves better.
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>>145286018
I was pleasantly surprised when I heard her in the third song as well. I wish her all the best in er singing career.
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>>145286045
Diamond Crevasse 50/50 is great. Those drums are underrated.

Also, the live duet piano version of DC she and May'n sang in one of the concerts gets me everytime.
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>>145286073
Are you sure about that? I heard they only did GIRIGIRI EYE, ichido dake no koi nara, and rune pika.
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CHAOS NO ZECCHOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>145286073
I NEED TO LISTEN TO THAT!
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>>145286157
A lot more than NakaMegu. May'n actually sings in three different genres, Pop, R&B, and Rock. I've actually listened to more of her albums and yes she has range. She has a lot of power in her voice, but she can actually understate if need be.
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>>145286173
Well everyone has different things on what they like in a relationship, and if that doesn't appeal to you then that's fine. My point is that HayaFre is portrayed as what a relationship SHOULD be, which is strength, faith, loyalty and complete understanding. That's what makes it the ideal and obvious triangle winner in an anime like Delta where the focus is bonds, resonance and trust.
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>>145286184
The full version of that song is a duet, they just sing the second verse of it later on.
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>>145286073
I want to see that. FUCK
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What makes Frontier's song so memorable until now is due to it being able to sync so well with the scenes. Frontier have plenty of songs which are like that :-

Iteza gogo kuji don't be late
Lion
Diamond Crevasse
Aimo Susume Frontier version
Infinity
Hokago Overflow (movie)
Sayonara no Tsubasa (movie)
Northen Cross et cetera

>>145285661
That last scene from Isamu.
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The OP is really growing on me. I hated it at first.
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>>145286321
She must've been giving an intentionally weak performance in all of her Frontier songs then.
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>>145286253
Diamond Crevasse 50/50 was shit. Ranka's voice ruined the song, it was too understated.
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>>145286373

So is it a duet or is it a Ranka song?
Also the Ranka part sucked either way.
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>>145286173
You are a faggot of the highest order. Characters having relationship problem because their own insecurities is shit and present in 90% romance stories out there.

You should fuck off back to Nisekoi. That might be more suited to your taste.
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>>145286011
>You just admitted Ranka barely has her own songs

She is not even an already established singer like sheryl to begin with. Obviously she has less songs. Ranka is still on her journey to be a star in TV series whereas in the 2nd movie she already is
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>>145286409
No, Sheryl sings in a certain key so May'n does that.

Though I wouldn't call Diamond Crevasse, Northern Cross, Funamori, and the Sheryl only version of Infinity bad. Yousei was ruined by it's instrumentation though.
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So we all at least agree that Freyja's Giraffe Blues is better than Mikumo's, right?
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>When Kaname tries to be Mikumo in the ED
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>>145286462
It's a duet, the verse that you see Ranka sing in Star Date was just her solo verse.
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>>145286749
I prefer Mikumo's
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Anyone remember that Nana May'n Diamond Crevasse duet? Makes me wish Frontier had better singers.
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>>145286759
I thought her part was pretty good. I had to check twice who it was when I heard it.
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>>145286776

Yeah I don't really care. It was shit. Ranka a shit.
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>>145286878
She really couldn't handle that singing style at all.
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>>145286732
>>145286409
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf-hD_DFeyU
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>>145286749
Gori gori no.
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>>145283788
Calm your tits edgelord.
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>>145286749
In the single Freyja's one is better, but for some reason I prefer the version Mikumo sang at Messer's funeral and this week's episode. I do
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https://twitter.com/Sartika30912/status/760982231066087424
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>>145286872
Yes, that's why it sold.
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>>145286648
Neither was Minmei anon, or Fire Bomber.

NakaMegu has very little range, sure she improved by the time that movies rolled around, but her range is very short. I remember that at one time someone removed all of the instrumentation for Diamond Crevasse and it actually sounded better. I think that Kanno even pointed out that Raka lacked variety because the character and voice was too immature.
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Full version of the Teddyloid song wheN
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>>145286928
That sounds awful.
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I think Hayate is more pure than Bogue because he had Mirage's boobs pressed on his back and had no reaction, plus he still has to have lewd thoughts about Freyja. Meanwhile Bogue is angry at Reina for tainting his wings, therefore he has fapped furiously at her a few times.
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>>145287029
DYNAMIIIIIITE, that's why Yoshiki Fukuyama/Nekki Basasa is the best
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>>145287029
>The man with no taste
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>>145286974
I don't think idol music has ever hinged on whether or not the singer is actually good.
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>>145287088

It helps if they're actually good.
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>>145284773
>muh lyrics!
Jeez, you're a retard.
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>>145287084
I don't know what you expected when you directly compare them to Basara like that.
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>>145286928
3D dance is awful. I'm glad they didn't go with that for delta.
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>>145286872
May'n has done duets with many people and tends to sound great in duets.

>>145287139
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaNAwOSOTd0
May'n actually sounds great in duets with Fukuyama.
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>>145286749
Mikumo's version is better. JUNNA is really good at acapella's too
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>>145286959
What would a conversation between these two be like?
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>>145286990
>comparing Ranka with Minmay
>comparing anyone with the OG Goddess
This should be punishable offense.

Yeah I don't care if she was probably the weakest singer in the franchise given that she probably had no fold receptors or spiritia. She made me feel certain feelings and gave us DYRL.
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>>145287368
I'm just saying that Ranka having fewer songs has nothing to do with her being a new singer.
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>>145286903
It's cute when Freyja tries too. Freyja can keep up with JUNNA just enough which is why they are good for duets
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>>145287274
My problem wasn't that she did bad in that duet. It's just that Nana giving a much better performance than May'n during her own song really showed the difference in skill.
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Heart eyes, motherfucker.
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>>145287456
Yeah but Freyja can actually pull it off and sounds cute doing it. Kaname just sounded awkward in the OP
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>>145287344
Bsara be like Listen to my song!!!!
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>>145287344
>Basara: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

>Mikumo: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>145287442
Coming back to the topic, I'm inclined to disagree.
Unlike Ranka, Minmay didn't have any opponents nor was there an environment of great expectations from idols.
Also, the show itself had to focus more on her past unlike Minmay where the show had to focus on her rise leading towards the climax.
There's also the thing with the number of episodes each anime got.
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>>145287368
Singing isn't about having special powers or space magic, anon. It's about heart.
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>>145287463
Well yeah, Nana has been in the industry for much longer than May'n has been. Of course she sounds more skilled.
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>>145287344
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J79O5mEjcZ0

Sort of.
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>>145287569
Here's the thing though Ranka was the focus of Macross Frontier, that's why the most screen time because Kawamori wanted to show her rise to stardom.

She's at the same starting point in the movies and yet has more songs in that verse. The reason for this has nothing to do with Sheryl actually, it was just that Ranka was too immature to sing certain songs so it limited the songs that she could sing. I remember Kanno explaining Ranka's immaturity as a reason for the lack of songs.

Though musically it could just be because she lacked range.
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>>145287368
Minmay to me is incomparable, her songs are filled with sweetness and joy. It has the calm melody. I don't get why there are anons out there who actually bother comparing her with other idols when she is literally the de facto for everyone's inspiration in the Macross universe
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>>145282008
>She is THE MACROSS. Whatever the hell that means.
She's not the macross. The spoiler says she's so important a character that you could call her the macross. It means she's basically the most important character in the franchise.
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>>145287589
Mah African American compadre.
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>>145287594
I don't know, anon. I really just think May'n is overrated as fuck. She's not terrible but I've never heard a song of hers where she actually stands out to me. The Nana duet is just an example where it was most obvious to me.
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>>145285682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKlQ7WDbs5s

literally best song in the series
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>>145287863

That's from the movies you illiterate fagass.
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Kaname is the best singer. I love Kaname!
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>>145287368
>http://www.macrossworld.com/japanese-fans-vote-diamond-crevasse-for-favorite-macross-song/
># 13 Do You Remember Love (Lynn Minmay)
># 13
So why did we stop at 2 bombs again?
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>>145287850
Well the problem may be that you're comparing her with singers with way more experience than her, so of course she's gonna fall short of your expectations.
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The ED is the best of the album.

fite me
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>>145287972
>Almost 13,000 fans
Minmay's fan are all oldfag
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>>145288022
Those oldfags also supported Mao, Ranka, Mylene and are currently supporting Freyja.
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>>145287927
Messer you're supposed to be dead
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>>145287754
They wanted to show Ranka's growth. Movies are a retelling, but at the same time a sequel of sorts. Or at least that's how I see it, since the technology is better (obviously, since they have more budget), every character is more mature, and Ranka gets better songs and becomes more of a pro because they already showed her as a total newbie in the series.
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>>145287927
You mean third/fourth best, Messer.
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>>145287972

That poll is Frontierfags: The Poll and was also taken in 2012.
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>>145288088
Na. SDF aired in 1983.
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>>145287972
># 18 INFORMATION HIGH (Sharon Apple)
Why are neo-elevens so shit
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>>145280803
JUNNA sings like she's auditioning for American Idol. Minoringo's singing is soulful and has character. Both are good though. They're perfectly cast as Mikumo and Freyja though.
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>>145288112
Basically this.
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>>145288094

Stop reaching, you gay. Megumi Nakajima just can't sing. Go have a listen to her singles sometime. She can't carry a song alone.
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>>145288141
Minoringo sounds the same in every song :( Her voice is great but her version of Giraffe Blues makes me wanna fall asleep in the second part
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>>145287927
I love Kaname and AXIA, but Mikumo still takes the cake when it comes to singing.
Kaname is still the best girl though, that I will agree.
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>>145288126
But anon I watched SDF Macross like 5 months ago and I love Lynn Minmay the most.

I even killed and buried my friend of 3 years after he called her "annoying".
The stench of your rotten body is what's going to be annoying baka
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>>145287972
>the bottom of the list
># 35 Anatano oto (Ranka Lee) – 88 votes
>#36 Aimo (Ranka Lee) – 66 votes
># 37 Do You Remember Love? (Ranka Lee) – 63 votes
># 38 Yeah (Ranka Lee) – 62 votes
># 39 Kumakuma rainbow colors (Ranka Lee) – 53 votes
># 40 Ao ether (Ranka Lee) – 51 votes
># 41 CM song “Nyan Taipei Super Dimension” (Ranka Lee) – 50 votes
># 43 Songbird (Megumi Nakajima Ranka Lee ) – 1 vote
Ahahahahaha
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>>145288214
Fuck you, her Rinne no Lagrange songs were pretty great.
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>>145288088
Biggest bullshit. All the oldfags support Mirage and love Kaname. They hate the idea of characters like Freyja and Reina
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>>145288094
It has nothing to do with technology, it's just characterization. Ranka was immature and not proactive therefore got less songs.

Also NakaMegu is genuinely a weak singer, in her songs it's mostly the instrumentation that carries the song.
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>>145288214
I actually have listened to most of her songs outside of Macross. I love her voice.
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>>145288285
The Minmay oldfags I mean.

The patrician ones are Miragefriends.
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>>145288219
Seriously? Minoringo does this thing where she throws in a bit of breathy vocals during the chorus and it makes it sound really emotional and sincere. JUNNA just riffs and does vibratos and stuff.
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>>145288285
Bullshit. I like Freyja.
I'm neutral on Reina though.
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>>145286749
Hoina
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>>145288266

BTFO
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>>145288282
Carried by instrumentation and auto tune.

Also an early May'n song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EGC8yyE4ls
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>>145288141
Don't get me wrong, Minori sounds okay but her range is really flat and she sounds the same. Along with that her singing voice is just for anime songs. JUNNA is clearly the better singer but most likely because it's her passion and something she has been training for all her life. Her vocal ranges and pitches are crazy. She sings with a variety of styles and it's awesome. Minori's same anime style is cute and fits her. She will be a successful voice actor

Minori's singing has energy and life but JUNNA's singing is soulful and passionate.
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>>145287972
># 12 Pink Monsoon (Sheryl Nome starring May’n) – 472 votes
># 13 Do You Remember Love (Lynn Minmay) – 458 votes

Dafuq how is Pink Monsoon even leading against DYRL when it's barely even a song?
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>>145287972
New game is the best show this season you should watch it because has decided it through Charapedia poll.
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>>145288448
I don't know if I'd call JUNNA's soulful, it feels kind of mechanical and measured at times. It's like comparing Bob Dylan and Robert Plant.
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>>145287972
>>145288266
>>145288451
When Poll became relevant on /a/?
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>>145283931
Freyja's a middle aged hag though.
Relatively speaking.
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All this Minmay talk reminds me of how much her character was developed. She started out pretty naive (probably a bit autistic) but became increasingly mellow and mature towards the end.

I can't think of any other singers who received that kind of character development.
Most that happens is that they start out optimistic in Episode 1 then encounter suffering and danger but ultimately in the final episode they "pull through" and go back to being happy. Except it's literally back to square one instead of any worthwhile change.

I apologise for the subjective opinion.
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>>145288568

Maya Mari from Samurai Flamenco.
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>>145288451
Sherylfags were strong in that time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_H7D4Z-UIg

This song is just so good! Eargasm hits when Sheryl Nome spins her Mic!
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>>145288568
Who like character Minmay?
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>>145287972

Wow that poll should just have been renamed to "favorite Macross Frontier Songs" it's seriously skewed and I'm surprised they even bothered using it. The first 12 songs are Frontier only for fucks sake.
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>>145288325
It's not breathy vocals lol it's her not being able to carry the notes. When judging singing you really shouldn't let favoritism get in the way and give credit where it's due honestly. I think your love for Freyja is getting in the way. That's like me loving Kaname and saying Reina's VA is a worse singer than Kaname's VA. It would be biased and untrue.
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>>145288760
>Who like character Minmay?

I like Minmay and always am.
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>>145288331
Stop denying your love for Reina. Just admit you find her interesting.
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>>145283931
She's also gonna be the youngest winner of a triangle, thought to be fair, she had no chance.
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>>145288892
>Freyja
>winner
>implying
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What would Macross be like if Mika Kobayashi and Aimer are the singers while the composer is Sawano Hiroyuki.
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>>145288892
No chance in what?
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>>145288959
Every song sounding the same
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>>145288481
>Mechanical and measured.
Have you heard Mikumo's version of Giraffe Blues? Especially the chorus? I think the visuals that was used for episode 8 with Freyja is clouding your judgment
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>>145288892
>people seriously believe Freyja will win
You don't know Kawamori.
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>>145280059
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>>145288973
>Every song sounding the same

Do u mean by not good enough?
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>>145288981
People back in 1983 thought Minmay would win.
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I really we can see me of BEST IDOL SHERYL.
Its only been 8 years.
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>>145289023
Aimer's songs all sound the same
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>>145288022
Minmay songs were overused in SDF. For me, "My boyfriend is a pilot" still causes nausea.
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>>145288960
Yikes, I meant to say contest not chance
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>>145288448
Stop with this stupid range shit. This is not a fucking opera, range is not everything.

And if you want to talk about passion just compare JUNNA's "giri giri ai ikenai borderline" with Minoringo's "giri giri ai abunai borderless". You instantly should hear who puts more emotions in her singing.
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>>145288981
Enlighten us.
>>
I think we can all agree that Kaname > everyone else
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>>145288981
Anon, all Kawamori ships are have obvious winners that were telegraphed from the start.

>b-but muh Aquarian EVOL
was a sequel to another show, it was obvious day one, and Amata had zero interest in Zessica.
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>People don't realize that Hayate secretly took Messer's plane
>People don't realize Hayate will also sneakily take Messer's girl
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/mu/ go
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>>145289162
Back to your grave.
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>>145289142
something something misa something
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>>145288841
She was annoying.
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>>145289182

Now that's crack. But if by some miracle it were to happen. it would be hilarious.
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>>145289182
>>People don't realize Hayate will also die like Messer
>He got var'ed in the last ep
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>>145289182
Don't they refer to their planes as girls, so in a sense Haya-haya has already taken Messer's girl? and not treated her right!
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>>145289174
>Aquarian EVOL
It's obvious that Mikono will win. Zessica is a fourth wheel and has nothing related to the plot.
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>>145289209
Something something Mirage doesn't have character development and focus alone, much less with Hayate. Also, something something Hayate and Freyja have actually a very good relationship and are able to communicate unlike Hikaru and Minmay.
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>>145289024
Didn't Hikaru spend most of his time with Misa?
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Where in the world can i find the song Pink Monsoon in Macross Frontier?
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>>145288745
Why is the big portion of Sheryl costumes so slutty-looking?
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>>145288959
I'm okay with Mika and Aimer, especially Aimer. But
>Sawano
Fuck, no. No. NO.
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>>145287972
>Idol talk nowhere in the list
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>>145289409
>Sawano
>Fuck, no. No. NO

Why?
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>>145289407
The antithesis to the idea of idol purity?
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>>145289409
>Fuck, no. No. NO.
Somebody doesn't want to hear bad german.
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>>145289387

It's in the first movie when Alto and Sheryl go on their date.

>>145289407

She has a perfect body and is unashamed of it.
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>>145288959
>Sawano
If he pulls a Gundam Unicorn then it's good.
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>>145289407
Based on slutty popstars, duh
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>>145280023
For those that want Giraffe BLues with Mikumo AND Freyja:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/saaye5ycxnoxjnt/GIRAFFE+BLUES+-+MikumoFreya+Mix1.mp3
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>>145289537
Sheryl is based on Movie's Lynn Minmay
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>>145289516
>She has a perfect body and is unashamed of it
But she's only 16.
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>>145288931
>>145288981
>People still thinking Freyja will lose to Mirage

You've clearly not been watching the anime
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>>145289462
Most of his songs sound the same, I don't think they would fit the Macross setting and to top it off for some reason most of his OSTs lately don't fit the anime they are used for (see Kabaneri, the most recent one). I don't think he's a bad composer, because I think his work on Unicorn and Ao no Exorcist is really good, but for some reason lately he's shit.
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>>145289407
>jacket
>bikini
>short shorts
>slutty

How are things in the Middle East these days?
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>>145289409
LICKING CHOCOLATE IN MY DRAINAGE...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCevSCxP_vw
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>>145289520
Gundam Unicorn is top notch! Hope macross has that kind of quality or its just apples and oranges?
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>JUNNA in The Wind Blows without a Warning

She's got serious range, and only 16?
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>>145288263
>>145289215
>annoying
You wanna be my friend of 3 years?
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>>145289747
I think she's 15
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>>145289747
She's 15, anon. And she's the only good thing about Delta.
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>>145289747
>>145289768
She was 14 when they recorded the songs from the first half at least.
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>>145289744
Macross had Yoko Kanno for Plus and Frontier.
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>>145289687
I think he's being overworked/pigionholed. He's basically always working on at least 1 project a season, sometimes even 2, so he probably just throws together something competent and calls it a day instead of actually researching and composing to the anime. Unicorn is an example of his best, and Xenoblade X for all it's soundtrack problems shows he can still do a variety of music.
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Why the heck are other singers invading our Macross thread?
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>>145289782
>the only good thing about Delta
for you.
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>>145289782
I kinda like the hoina, guriguri, and pikapika.
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>>145289823
>sawano
>singers
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>>145289782
>she's the only good thing about Delta.

I will only judge once I am done listening to Junna and Minoringo's version of Lion.
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>>145289135
>Stop with this stupid range shit. This is not a fucking opera, range is not everything.
Just what I was about to say after following this convo. I'm tired of people discrediting other singers because one is throwing more range than the others. Your preference for May'n/JUNNA over Megumi/Minori isn't because you think former is "better" singer, it's because you are contrarian over the sweet voice that the general public loves.
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>>145289940
>I am listening to Junna and Minoringo's version of Lion.
link?
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>>145289911
>Mika and Aimer mentioned in the thread
>Not singers

Aimer and Mika ain't singers for ya right?
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>>145289965
The Singer from Macross Zero had more range: http://66.90.91.26/ost/macross-zero-original-soundtrack/quijxctjxf/02-arkan-part1-holy-raz.mp3
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I WANT A KANAME VERSION OF ALL THE SONGS. PLEASE.
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>>145289968
>link?
Someone in this thread mentioned JUNNA and Minoringo sang Lion in a concert in Japan. Apparently there is no upload of the video yet.
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>>145289706
>descendant of the Mayan people
Yes, slutty.
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I didn't even realise Mikumo had a different singing voice to her normal VA.
Welp
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>>145288959
No, they just have to hire that Ace Combat composer, Keiki Kobayashi.
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>>145280683
Epsilon.

The novel has Andria trying to stop him and getting nuked along with the other Windies of the White Knight Squad.
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>>145290157
>hire that Ace Combat composer, Keiki Kobayashi

Megalith -agnus dei- as final boss theme for Macross baby
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>>145290261
The Unsung War works just fine.
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>>145290061
While I like Kaname, who cares if she's there in the songs. All I ask is that they stop removing Freyja so God damn often.
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>>145288959
>while the composer is Toshiyuki Omori
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5x8M-eZ2JQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_wwSTR3X9o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBkZGOgAtwo
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>>145285384
There has not been any triangle in the show at all. From what's happening, they actually removed it because they don't know how to do it now.

I wish they didn't advertise it at all.
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>>145290061
t. Jellyfish Messer
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It's a single, asshole

Still, I was looking forward to the next single.
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>>145290462
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>145290440
>Cross Ange

literally Gundam SEED/ SEED Destiny's rip off
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>>145290574
Both are Fukuda's shows, what did you fucking expect?
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>>145290101
Which means that she's part Polynesian then? That's hardly slutty.
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>>145289965
May'n isn't a better singer than Megumi though. And Minori isn't a better singer than JUNNA. May'n could only hit one note and had no range. She sounds the same in every song, she only had a good composer that made it work. Megumi is underrated and didn't have songs that highlighted her singing strength. Overall though Megumi was the better singer and was fucked over by the Sheryl favoritism.

Nobody is discrediting Minori, she has a very good voice and is perfect for the songs she sings. However she is not a better singer than JUNNA. It's not only about ranges, it's far more than that. Singing is much different than liking the persons voice. It's not JUNNA's voice that's carrying her, it's her raw talent. Switching from idol songs (uncertain cosmic movement) to intense songs (Walkure attack) and other examples. All of which the other four girls sound the same. She has the most flexible voice, along with octaves.

Everyone might not have been a fan of Minmays voice or how she sounded when she sings. However she is the best singer in the Macross Franshice. Minmays voice isn't as strong as JUNNA yet she has shown to be able to have more advanced ranges and pitches than JUNNA.
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>>145290462
Technically for all intents and purposes Hayate/Freyja/Mirage is indeed a triangle. A very pale triangle.

Pale because it's apparent that one part of the triangle is stronger than the other and actually has an effect on the plot.

Even if Mirage's relevance in the triangle is practically non-existant, she's still part of it simply because she likes Hayate.
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>>145290722
Seriously, where does the terminology pale come from?
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>>145290713
This Minmay's voice is still magical to me.
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>>145290772
Well, that's how Kawamori chose to describe the triangle in Delta this time around. Ask him.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0rxpQI0ZbY
Who is the singer there? Kanno?
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>>145290713
Can't appreciate Minmay after I heard Iijima's old ass broken voice singing Do You Remember Love with a thick asian-american accent.
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>>145290713
>May'n isn't a better singer than Megumi though.
She is, I've listened to both of their albums, and while NakaMegu's own is shit, and lack luster, May'n's has more variety.

>May'n could only hit one note and had no range
This is also false and a comment that fore fits Megumi, Megumi also is frequently quite flat when she sings. I've actually heard May'n with sing without the muted instrumentals on and she sounds better. The same though isn't true for Megumi, she actually uses a lot of autotune in her songs as well. Megumi wasn't underrated at all, her voice is very much dime a dozen voice that you hear often from pop idols, though she fucked herself over even more by making herself out to be an idol rather than a singer.
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>>145290722
Frankly that's really just commercial talk. It would have been much better really if they didn't go for it anyway.

It's like, they only said it out of obligation because the series was that way since the beginning.
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>>145290863
Melodie Sexton
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>>145290157
Or the Motoi Sakuraba.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz5Btcc-3gQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB6sOhQan9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fgDJ5p5K7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2LUB9Fp4Sw
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>>145289412
>Idol tak
Idol talk's lyric is nosense.
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>>145291200
>Sakuraba

Jesus hell no.
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>>145291200
Sure if you want boring and forgettable music that leaves no impression on you.
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>>145290713
>It's not only about range
>proceed to talk only about range
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>>145291073
>It's like, they only said it out of obligation because the series was that way since the beginning.

Well you're not wrong. Kawamori asked to drop the triangle. Sponsors refused and said it had to be in the anime. So he had to add Mirage to the triangle.

Delta has and always will be about the pilot and the singer resonating and working together.

Pilot:Hayate
Singer: Freyja

Therefore Mirage was just tacked on and this is the end result. Sponsors asked for a triangle and Kawamori gave them one. A pale triangle where the focus is still the pilot and his singer. The odds were never in Mirage's favor.
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>>145291200
He isn't fit for Macross. He's good for RPG and medieval/Fantasy stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GURcNUguVQg
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>>145291073
> It's like, they only said it out of obligation because the series was that way since the beginning.

Well, the sponsors wanted a triangle and they got one. They didn't require how it should be written or promoted. It did it's job at the end.

The thing here is that Mirage as a character, outside of the triangle, doesn't have story relevance (so far at least). They could still make the triangle the way it is now but give Mirage some focus as a character. But they didn't want to? Didn't bother to? Their choice at the end.

Kawamori said 3 elements matter in Delta (outside singing-piloting and more character focus):
>Hayate and Freyja's relationship
>Mikumo's backstory.
>The non-love triangle of Keith-Heinz-Roid.
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>>145280023
I was right about Giraffe Blues being a duet, and just like I though "The Wind Blows without a Warning" is a duet between Mikumo and Freyja.

Guess what God Bless You will also be another duet between Mikumo and Freyja. Don't worry though, they will eventually release solo versions.

Mikumo and Freyja are a heavy theme and symbol in Macross Delta. A major conflict or the main climax of the series will be between them. Ying and Yang
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>>145291393
>He's good for RPG and medieval/Fantasy stuff
Nice joke. I laughed at that.
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>>145291458
Baten Kaitos OSTs from him are 5/5
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>>145291434
>Kawamori said 3 elements matter in Delta (outside singing-piloting and more character focus):
>Mirage without proper character focus lately

Yea right
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>>145291204
I don't care. The song is catchy s fuck.
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>>145291393
He's so great the the best part of his OSTs are the songs made by by other people.
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>>145288285
29 faggot here

>All the oldfags support Mirage and love Kaname
Too true

>They hate the idea of characters like Freyja and Reina
Not true, at least for me. I like both and I like Freyja x Hayate a lot
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>>145288959
Hire Daisuke Ishiwatari and make Macross heavy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTB2kNcmww8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xghLDX3R1NM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov0lPEJ5qQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWFF6hSRy10
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>>145291317
>>145291434

Yea now this confirms it. Even if it was just from the sponsors, I actually hate this kind thing. Sacrificing characters to be "almost nothing" just so to say "there is something".
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>>145288959
What about Kaijura?
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>>145288881
>Just admit you find her interesting.
Yes, one of the most one dimensional characters in the show, a joke character, is so interesting. Best girl.
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>>145291602
This.

Fucking this.
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>>145288959
Go Shiina.

He fits the bill perfectly. Lots of range from this guy.
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I still say they should have just made Mirage a Ragnan and combined her and Chuck into a single character.
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>>145292209
絶対零度θノヴァティック/破滅の純情
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>>145291878
That's why I said they could still make the triangle the way it is now but still develop Mirage as a character outside of it, but they didn't do it.

I think Mirage was created for the triangle alone, although some anons here will disagree. I say this from the point of view that if you take her outside of the story so far, nothing will change dramatically. You can have Messer in her place and that's about it. He could die or not, but the point of Hayate standing as a pilot at the end, its still because of him. Mirage could be a secondary character - pilot like Chuck, and none would really complain if she doesnt get many scenes or no story relevance.
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>>145291602
>>145291515
and the whole ost was made by him.
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>>145292018
Bogue
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>>145287972

>1. Sheryl
>2. Sheryl
>3. Sheryl
>4. Sheryl
>5. Sheryl
>6. Sheryl
>7. Sheryl
>8. Sheryl
>9. Sheryl
>10. Sheryl & Ranka

Holy Shit! Could 'Delta' compete against this in the future?
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>>145292355
I'm pretty sure a lot of those songs would be knocked off and Ikenai Borerline would probably beat a couple
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>>145292209
https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/music/562060/ref=s9_acsd_ri_bw_clnk?pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-8&pf_rd_r=AQ5ZWQ78A5N1Z7XFD5Z9&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=237994029&pf_rd_i=562060_p0_h
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what if Sheryl and Mikumo did a duet?
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That weak ass "suki yo" in the ED
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>>145291440
I want Freyja solo God Bless You though
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>>145292250
>I think Mirage was created for the triangle alone

I agree with this actually. If they are going to make her the "pale" line in the triangle, must as well make her develop her character in her own right and make people think about her in a different light. Like say, how Sanderson developed Marasi in Mistborn.

She is nothing. Never was, and right now, never will be. What a waste.
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>>145292440
Greatest Macross Song in history
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>>145292440
Basara > Sheryl > MIkumo
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wut
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>>145292551
babby's first cue file
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>>145292478
I understand she was created for the triangle but it's unfair that Mikumo was placed as secondary becaus or that. I understand they didn't want a repeat of Frontier but making Mikumo 3rd main character and keeping Mirage for love triangle would make things so much better.
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>>145281909
Why does she look so skinny in this
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>>145292732

Reminder.
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What I want to know is what was up with hayate last ep. Did he get the fold dick so hard he went Var?
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>>145292530
>Putting Shityl above Kumo-Kumo
How bad can ones taste be
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>>145287972

>#1 Diamond Crevasse

I have no objections.
Good Choice Japan!!
But the rest............................... Eeeehmm............
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>>145292769
Even here so looks so unhappy.
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>>145292778
Just pushed him over the edge because Freyja was going out of control with the ruins power
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>>145292617
>Can't be arsed to separate and tag the tracks properly
>babby's first cue file

Yeah, no
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>>145292769
It's obvious the staff loves Freyja and Mikumo is Kawamori's favorite
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>>145292769
Fucking amazing
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>>145292530
Basara I can understand but Sheryl is an auto-tune kinda singer. Which in my opinion is worse than natural singers
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>>145291647
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>>145292732
Maybe they should stop having a triangle with a child girl vs an actual adult or almost adult girl.
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>>145280059

The hell, why isn't makimaki's song in here?
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>>145292980
May'n doesn't use autotune though.
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>>145293050
This. Episode 17 full songs when.
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>>145281514
>Mirage-san is so tall and adult looking, she makes such a good couple with Keith
>Your rune is all blue

>>145281542
>Howaah!!
>Hayate! Don't touch my rune so suddenly!
>(small)Jeeze, sorry
>Your rune...
>Hayate, you...
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>>145288285
>>145291621
29 fag too and I confirm this
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>>145293147
May'n uses auto tune in every single song.
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>>145293409
i prefer watching her live performance
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>>145293409
I've actually watched her concerts she doesn't use autotune, anyone whose seen the Macross concerts can tell that you don't know what you're talking about.
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>>145291621
>>145293275
Which makes and is very understanble. In your eyes Freyja along with Reina are like little girls. Makina maybe an okay for most of you guys but most prefer Mikumo with Kaname as the all time favorite.
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>>145293601
I've seen them and I'm telling you she uses auto tune. A lot of people perform concerts and use auto-tune. Unless May'n sings from her nose
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>>145293685
28.
Mirage is literally who and I don't care about her..
I was memeing about Kaname being old hag before anyone even started doing it.

Freyja is like my little daughter/sister and Hayate is a nice guy so I support their relationship just like father or older brother would do in this situation.
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>>145293828
I said majority not all.
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>>145293820
So you don't know what you're talking about. We know that she isn't using auto tune because we can actually see and hear her get tired when she's singing. Then there's also the natural pauses she takes between notes. It's more obvious when you see or hear some of her unplugged songs, like when she sang with Fukuyama.

There is no way to sing live with autotune unless you're lip singing, and because we do hear and see her get tired we know she doesn't lip sing.

This is just a case of you not liking her voice, but saying that she uses autotune shows how little you actually know.
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>>145293996
4 posts, 2 agrees, 2 disagrees.
Come back when you have any kind of representative sample.
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>>145280023
>no freyja bokura no senjou solo
>no mikumo hametsu no junjou solo
I'll take what I can get, but Satelight pls.
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>>145280023
>Silent hacker never
What the fuck.
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>>145294360
Bogue, pls.
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>>145294044
Wrong. I like a lot to f Sheryl songs. People who song with auto tune don't rely on just auto tune. She is singing along with the auto-tune too. It helps creates the effect of her being a natural singer. You obviously don't know how auto tune works and May'n singing is not natural at all
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>>145293019
Hayate and Freyja have exactly the same emotional wave and maturity. Freyja's not a 'child girl', she's a teenager, so is he. Mirage acts like their mom.
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>>145292732

Mikukumo isn't interested in loving, she interested in music and idoling. Don't confuse being a sexed up idol with looking for love in all the wrong places.
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>>145294441

Mirage doesn't act like they're mom. She's just pathetic. It's really sad how Mirage literally just stands in the background sighing whenever Hayate and Freyja look at each other. Why even have Mirage in the show at all?
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>>145284582

She's pretty disgusting for a moden anime singer. So much raw power and passion in her voice. They did good scoring her for this show. Idol shows have been respectable for discovering talent before but she just really comes out of the gate swinging in comparison this generation.
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>>145294360
I think they realized it was shit. They need a good Reina song
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>>145294510
Is Mikumo capable of love? Is there even anyone who can match her and be her equal partner?
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>>145294720

Me.
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>>145294430
I do, and I've also heard her sing unplugged, and live which is why I know it isn't autotune, because her singing isn't smooth.

Compared to someone NakaMegu who actively uses it often since her voice tends to be very pitchy when she sings live, but ends up with a flat pitch on the albums. For instance the Sheyl version of Aimo in Nyan Tama was actually unplugged and made last minute.
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>>145294720
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>>145294510
Again! I stress that having Mikumo as the 3rd does not make her apart of the love triangle. Mikumo would be main character and MAIN CHARACTER ONLY. Mirage on the other hand would have been secondary and STILL APART OF TRIANGLE
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>>145291621
I'm 32 and my favorite Walkure is Kaname as well. But I love the HayaFre ship because love like that is super cute.
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>All this singer vs singer shit

I prefer the mirage bullying over that shit. It's literally fighting over apples being better than bananas. No sides will agree in the end.
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>>145294720
Only Freyja desu
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>>145294819
>mad Freyjafag because Sheryl and Mikumo just plain shits on her
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>>145290261
>>145290295
The Unsung War for maximum Mikumo-Razgriz
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>>145294510
>Mikukumo isn't interested in loving
Judging from this look she is. Mind you that Love can't be only romantic.
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>>145294855
If you say so. That's your own opinion and I will respect it and if it makes you feel good shitting on other people's tastes then great!
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>>145294855
You're the one bringing Freyja here.
Your hateboner for Freyjafags is cute by the way, anon.
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>>145294771
>>145294842
But FreFre is more of a little sister/cute girl with great potential she wants to protect. For Mikumo to fall in love you will need someone just as strong and shinpi as her.
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>>145295006
>someone just as strong and shinpi as her.
Lady M?
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>>145294510
>Mikukumo isn't interested in loving
>implying a that wouldn't just make it better if a romance brought out a new side of her
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>>145295006

Mikumo could confuse familial love for romantic love and try to figure out what she should do by observing couples and Reina and Makina. Then she would get the wrong idea and force herself on Freyja.

I'm sure someone will draw a doujin with this exact plot.
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So, are the openings usually sang by the actual singer's voices rather than the character voices?
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>>145295244
Only Mikumo has two voices.
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>>145292355
Sheryl can't be beaten.
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>>145294182
I will work on that. I think the general favorites and fans work like this:

Oldfags - Kaname > Mikumo > Makina > Freyja > Reina

Youngfags - Freyja = Mikumo > Makina > Reina > Kaname

Lolifags - Freyja > Reina > Kaname > Mikumo = Makina

Oppaifags - Makina = Mikumo > Kaname = Freyja = Reina

Moefags - Freyja = Reina > Makina = Mikumo > Kaname
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>>145295166
>yurishit
Fuck no
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>>145295353
Freyja>Kaname>*>Makina>*>Mikumo=Reina
What group would this have me in?
It was hard to do the last three. I don't even consider Makina, naturally. She's a non-character. The issue is, is being a non-character worse than being an annoying one like Mikumo and Reina?
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>>145295006
It's obvious though that Mikumo and Freyja relationship is the most important in the series. Hayate and Freyja's is just distraction. A major shocker is going to happen between Mikumo and Freyja's relationship.
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>>145295565
The bright and average girls group. Reina is too dull and Mikumo is too flashy and her it girl status bothers you.

Why do you dislike Reina and Mikumo though. What truly bothers you about them individually
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Why are yurifags the most delusional shits ever? Truly the cancer of /a/.
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Alright, finally managed to upload the flac files.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cyfxl16hqig2nf6/MacrossDelta2.7z
Baidu is a shit, some of the downloads just randomly fail and I had to keep retrying.
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>>145295353
I'm oldfag and my ranking is

Freyja > Kaname > Mikumo > Makina > Reina.
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>>145295722
Reina is kind of cliche, not that that's neccessarily a bad thing at ALL but she grates on me. Honestly, I imagine most of the dislike is because Reinafags are acting like she isn't made of cardboard like her partner in crime Makina.
Now, on the other hand Mikumo is a character. I don't like her personality though. If you watch how she treats people through out the season, Freyja and Kaname being good examples, she's pretty inconsistent. One moment she's their friend and supporting them in things. In another she's treating Kaname like a roadie even though Kaname's been around longer or telling Freyja that hiring her was a mistake and she should quit.
FUCK Mikumo. I like her as a part of the story a lot more now but her character is still, gee how special and perfect am I? I dislike her huaghty self interested attitude and worse how people allow it. She's tried to make both someone else's birthday AND someone else's funeral about her too.
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>>145295603
Kawamori said that Hayate and Freyja's relationship is the key of the story. I don't doubt that Mikumo/Freyja relationship will also have a big role in the upcoming episodes, but calling Hayate/Freyja bond a distraction it's too far. You can enjoy both relationships for what they are. No need to downgrade one to make the other better.
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>>145295966
Good taste.
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>>145295353
Oldfags like characters with characterization and personality like the old Macross, why the fuck would they prefer Mikumo whose entire character is oh so mysterious so far or Makina over Freyja? Only Kaname has a characterization to match Freyja.
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>>145295966
Same here (although I'm not sure I can be called an oldfag at 23).
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>>145296018
Wow, how is it possible to misinterpret Mikumo's character this much?
She doesn't give a shit about how anyone thinks of her or anyone's attention, all she does is wanting to sing and later making sure Freyja reaches her potential. She ignored everyone in the beginning because she didn't give a shit about social interaction but started to get better after they bailed Ragna.
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Could someone stop with all this shipping and talk about RIGHTFUL WINDERMERE CLAY?
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>>145296133
>Only Kaname has a characterization to match Freyja.
Basically. Mikumo is a close third but her 'characterisation' is an exploration of her lack of character. At least she has stuff going on. Then we get Reina a reserved but IMPURE walkure that's a master hacker. That's literally her character in a sentence. Finally you get to ground zero of character, Makina. She makes some attentive noises and gestures at times. She has pink hair. She is seen working on planes in montages.
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>>145296106
Thank you. I think Kaname is the most attractive but Freyja is the better character.
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>>145296241
The people who like Mikumo are those who want another Sheryl. Those aren't old fags. Those are Frontier newfags. Old fags are looking on characters with some Minmay reference (which Freyja had with that Chinese dress). Kaname also has them because of the Claudia like role.
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>all these christmas cake lovers
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25 year oldfag here.

My rankings are

Freyja>Mikumo>Kaname>Makina>Reina

If I had to rank Mirage she'd be in between Makina and Reina. So 5th place.
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>>145296243
Haha I think the opposite but regard both highly. Freyja is well fleshed out for sure, but Kaname's character seems more balanced. Freyja is best girl partly from cute on screen antics but also because her songs are nice (don't ask how songs are a factor they just are).
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>>145294920
She wants to pick Heinz cherry.
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>>145296355
>ranking Mirage
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>>145295353
I don't belong to any of those categories and
Freyja > Mikumo > Kaname >> Makina > Reina
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I'm still trying to think what "extremely brave" thing Freyja is going to do in episode 22. How can the Hoina make me love her even more? How is that even possible?!
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New!!
>>145296483
>>145296483
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>>145296235
GLORY TO WINDERMERE.
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>>145296545
Cut off her rune.
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>>145296346
>Christmas cake
There's hardly any Christmas cake in Delta. Except Freyja and maybe Mikumo.
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>>145296578
Nah. Why would she cut off rune-chan? Silly anon, don't you know HayaFre use Freyja's rune during foreplay.
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>>145296637
>except Freyja
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>>145296869
>Windrmere lifespan
>she is middle-aged woman
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>>145296018
You have the comprehension skills of a 6 years all.
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Oldfag

Mikumo > Kaname = Freyja > Makina = Reina

Kind of expected for an oldfag I guess.
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>>145296934
>You have the comprehension skills of a 6 years all.
Sweet beautiful irony.
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>>145293820
>Unless May'n sings from her nose
Kind of.
Do you know something about nasal voices?
Definitely May'n sings with her nasal resonance.
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Makina's voice is so fucking grating in the second OP, it's ruining the song for me. On the other hand,

JUNJOOOOOOUUUUU
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Where the fuck did they find Junna?

In the forest after the nuclear accident?

How did such a creature come to exist with a voice like that at only 15
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>>145298329

Must be all the hormones in the water or something.
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Reminder that Freyja a cute.
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>>145298556
Also I just noticed the fucking subs.
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This JUNNA girl is good. For a 15 year old. But I expected more variations from her though in Giraffe Blues. She didn't hit the final notes as I expected. Like, she was almost there, but didn't go for it. Either because she couldn't yet, or because they told her not to.
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>>145298556
I know GG bullshit her script but I still laughed.
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