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What constitutes good taste, late night /a/?

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What constitutes good taste, late night /a/?
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>>145124878
Good taste means you like the same things that I do.
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>>145124946
Objectively true.
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This desu.
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>>145124878
memes
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>>145124878
having a popular taste, ITT; liking everything that is rate 8 or more in MAL
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>>145124878
I recognize like 2 or 3. I didn't like any, except maybe one is entertaining enough.
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>>145125056
How new are you?
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>>145125054
>liking everything that is rate 8 or more in MAL

but most of /a/ automatically hates something on exactly those grounds alone.
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>>145125102
Bretty new senpai
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This image was made by one hell of a bootyblasted moefag
>eurgh im autistic wow these anime suck because you have to think haha give me cute baka girls they are best
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>>145125141
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>>145125141
search all the shows of OP's image in MAL, I don't even have to look for it to know that every single of them is rated over 8
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>>145124878

Liking Angel's Egg goes from "cultured" into "obscure /tv/ kino".
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>>145124878
Anybody that can explain and defend their taste soundly has good taste to me 2bh
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>>145125216
>>145125224
Oh you're just retarded. I had faith in you.
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>>145125216
No, friend. I think the joke has passed over YOUR head.
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You forgot to add Pale Cocoon
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>almost 10am
>late night /a/
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>>145124878

If you feel the need to put your taste into a 3x3 and want to share it with other people your taste is shit.
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>>145124946
First post best post.
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>>145125347
>all of the world is in the same timeline as me
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The point is that they aren't bad series, but they're really "safe" things to pick and jerk off about because they're generally regarded as some of the best series.

Everyone will get triggered anyway.
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>>145125347
Not everyone lives in your little shit time bubble, shounen
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>>145125444
timezone*
I thought at first you were referring to steinsgate or something
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>>145124878
One of these day I'm going to drive though the tunnel to and go humiliate you for being such a turboqueer
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>>145125347
Foreigners should be rangebanned
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>>145124878
>10am
>late night
Pretty good image though, always works when you want to make underaged newfriends who think they have "good taste" mad
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>>145124878
Fucking kill yourself.
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>>145124878
The only one of those thats actually on my 3x3 is Mushi-shi
All of those are good anime anyway, no shame in liking them
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>>145126177
>All of those are good anime
Not really.
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>>145125180
>>145125054
>>145125056
>missing the point of the image
see >>145125453
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Doesn't matter, all that matters is being able to articulate why you think something is good or bad and why you like or dislike something.
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>>145124878
Someone who doesn't post it on /a/ desperate for approval
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>>145124878
is that anne of green gables with the dress?

bitch WHO ever says that that is their favourite show on /a/?
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>>145126212
Most of them are though.
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>>145126272
Exactly. If you're favourite anime is a Moe-blob SOL, that's great. Just describe why you like it. Same goes for a psychological 2deep4u anime. All art is subjective, so all that really matters is your own opinion
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Who would ever list Gunbuster as a favorite?
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>>145127091
Not really.
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>>145124946
/thread
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>>145127168
Which ones do you find good then, and why?
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Staying on top of what's current while being able to shitpost in any thread you see at the top of the catelogue with low replies so you can reap all of the (you)s from making either a terribly inaccurate post, or a terribly true post that triggers autists.
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>>145124878
You have an graphic that's obviously provocative by calling a bunch of excellent work boring, but i get it, you want good taste in a different way. An fuck, it is late so I don't care what the deal is here. Reminds me of when I'm looking for a good old jazz album and I want something I've never heard before or watching old zombie movies. Everybody has heard Bitches Brew and seen John Romero.

In this case what you are looking for are campy anime. Shows so bad they are good. The enjoyment you get from them must come from a deep, dark place inside yourself that is shrouded in the ghosts of too much tsundere, mecha drama, and SoL High School zany antic blah blah blah.

Go look at the worse rated shows and start watching them. Maybe drink. Yea, drink a lot. Eventually you'll be declaring the merits of lost 80s classics like Mars of Destruction or Angel Cop or whatever.

Have fun and welcome to the next level of your virginity.
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>>145127448
I'm not sure how into jazz you are, but I've been listening to JJ Johnson, who I highly recommend. One of the only bebop trombonists who actually inovated. Him and Curtis Fuller anyway
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>>145127448
Fuck you, Angel Cop is great
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>>145127448
You've completely misinterpreted OP's image.
See
>>145125453
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>>145127555
Check'm
>>145127573
Pretty sure he was saying that it's a lost classic - as in it's good
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>>145125224
I don't even have to look to know you're wrong.
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>>145124946
this is usually how it goes
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>>145127448
Boring taste not boring anime.
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>>145127448
Boring taste doesn't mean boring series. Boring taste means that you like all the same series, the exact same series, that are regarded as 'good' here, therefore they're safe to pick because any given circlejerking anon will give you headpats for following like a good sheep.
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>>145127718
Saying this just means you'll just see everyone adding in a token 'fun' series or two to balance out the more universally praised series.
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>>145127718
I'd rather have a boring taste than pretend to like anime I don't
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>>145124878
Liking similar things to me. Also usually people do put similar shows in their 3x3 to avoid not getting shat on by shitposters.
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>>145127613
>>145127656
>>145127718

Whatever, it's still contrarian. You want something obscure for whatever reason. It's true looking through 3x3 threads you see the same "good taste" everywhere. I get all that. I phrased it poorly but I think you'll find my advice fits.

Trying to keep your taste out of the mainstream is a horse race and it's one you gotta keep running. Eventually, you just won't care what the kids like because you've seen it all.

That's why you have to define your own taste and push it relentlessly regardless of critique. You really like the original Naruto? Well fucking, Believe It, and put it on all your charts. Or don't that show sucked except for some of the cool 80s rock ballads it would sometimes play during fight scenes.

See what I'm getting at? Like a few others stated good taste is subjective and it's all bullshit anyway, what makes it all confidently you push it.

Having said all that I'll offer up something I like.

pic related.

also I never see Masakazu Katsura's work get enough love, I thoroughly enjoyed the anime/manga for DNA^2, Video Girl Ai, and I's when I was a teen.

MEGA PLAYBOY!!
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>>145127166
People who love it? I could probably say the same about a lot of things you might have in your favourites list.
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>>145128033
well whatever late night failure.

The pic related was They Were 11
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>>145128033
Consider claiming to be a music fan, then if someone asks you what your favourite bands are you just listed a bunch of mainstream bands.

"oh queen, the beatles, pink floyd, y'know, the classics" you don't seem like a music fan at all.
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>>145128144
t. /mu/
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>>145128144
Freddy Mercury, John Lennon, Syd Barrett.

Yea, well, I guess I've had heard worse critiques in my life.
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>>145128144
Nice dubs

Sure, but what if they say that they've heard more than just the classics, and that they just find the classics to be the best? If they legitimately find Pink Floyd better than something like Neu!, it's not that they're not a music fan, it's just that they like more mainstream stuff. Anyway, just my opinion.
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>>145125453

A lot of them are pretty bad. I like a few, but if you think something like Monster, LoGH, or NHK profound or well made you need to pick up some classic literature for the first time in your life.
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>>145128286
I agree, they're not profound, but why aren't those ones good?
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>>145128276
I challenge you to find me anyone that's delved deeply into genres and still finds the mainstream to dominate their tastes.

Having one mainstream band on there, not even worth batting an eye for, a couple? perfectly reasoanble.

Having the majority of your favourites? that suggests that you don't go very deep unless you do some serious qualification of why.
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>>145128337
You've got a point for sure, but I don't think it carries over exactly the same way for anime. Take something like Bebop for example... it's pretty goddamn popular, and has also received tons of praise from critics. A lot of the stuff that falls into a similar vein just doesn't have the same level of character development, or sound design, or whatever else (all subjective, of course). So it makes sense that a lot of people consider it better than some of the more obscure stuff.

Am I making sense here? I feel like I'm not, sorry. It's late
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>>145128458
The words you're saying are but the argument holds up if you said the same thing for mainstream music. If you have one or two shows like this on there, I don't think anyone would question it. But if you're lacking anything that really makes it feel like it's cohesive then you'll look like a "hey what's the definitive list of classics? okay cool, THESE ARE MY FAVOURITES"
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>>145128622
But I find a lot of those are cohesive. A lot of the anime in OP's picture have really similar elements of being generally darker, more mature, psychological, etc. It would make sense to me to have someone list Ergo Proxy, Texhnolyze, Lain, FLCL, Haibane Rei, GitS, etc all in one list. They may be "boring" cause they're often praised, but I would understand if this was what someone legitimately enjoyed from their anime. At the same time, I can see how people can look at that and go "wow, you really have a narrow view of anime, huh?". In the end though, I doubt they'd be putting stuff up just because it's a classic... at least I hope so
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>>145128144
obscure 80s movies and LotGH are far from mainstream, its different
An actual mirror to that analogy would be like Bebop, any ghibli movie, TTGL, and the original Dragonball
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just generic 3x3 core my shit up
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>>145124878
You almost had me, too bad I don't like Cowboy Bebop.
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can we all agree aria is actually shit?
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>>145128949
C'mon, you know we can't all agree on anything

you're right though
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>>145124878
>angels egg
>boring
Are you actually fucking kidding me? I literally watched this the other night and it was so goddamn bizarre. It had such an unsettling atmosphere to it too, and I know it's not supposed to be a scary film but it still freaked me out quite a bit.
It was great, fuck your bait.
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>>145128949
Its so fucking boring, not my type of cute girls show I suppose.
I guess I just like the more hyperactive ones like YuruYuri

>>145129044
missing the point
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I tend to respect people who don't always jump on the bandwagon of whatever's popular and can explain why they like what they like.
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>>145128848
You could probably argue that they fall into the realm of "/a/ mainstream", "/a/ approved classics" or something like that.
It does feel like most of the board discovers anime exclusively through /a/.
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>>145129044
Boring taste means liking the best shows.
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>>145129061
>missing the point
How?
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>>145128949
No, Iyashikei is a miracle of the universe
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>>145129063
To be fair, I doubt many people in the 3x3 are going to be posting Re:Zero or some other currently popular anime
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>>145129125
I don't care about what happens in the 3x3 threads.
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>>145129125
3x3 are garbage.
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>>145129063
>>145128337
This kinda sums it up imo. If your 3x3 has more than 7 popular "consensus masterpieces" then you look like you havent dug deep into anime at all, and you probably havent. And even then 7 is pushing it. At the same time if you've seen a decent share of anime and can justify why you like the shows then thats fine too.

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>>145129125
I wish people tried to make 3x3 threads fun again instead of just spamming ratings with no words, they feel so pointless.
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My 3x3 list: No pics cause I'm too tired

1. Sailor Moon
2. Inuyasha
3. Ranma 1/2
4. Urusei Yatsura
5. Utena
6.Princess Tutu
7. Nadia
8. World Masterpiece Theatre anime
9. Candy Candy
10. 4-way tie between Cardcaptor Sakura, Madoka and Fullmetal Alchemist, Eacaflowne

Runners up include: Any Junichi Sato work, Record Of Lodoss Wars, Tenchi Muyo, Ghibli films, the Kanto-Orange Islands Pokemon anime, Slayers and Eva

H-How'd I do /a/?
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>>145129125
>I doubt many people in the 3x3 are going to be posting Re:Zero
This is mine from over a month ago. I knew Re:Zero was going to be good when after one particularly nasty reset Subaru just broke down and lost it. I've always wanted to see a series explore the psychological aspect of being caught in a time loop, and both Steins;Gate and Haruhi didn't quite do that to the extent I was hoping for. Luckily, Re:Zero has continued to deliver in that regard.
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>>145129232
Fuck. Posted the wrong one.
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>>145129227
yes
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>>145129205
>I wish people tried to make 3x3 threads fun again instead of just spamming ratings with no words, they feel so pointless.

Especially considering they use random fucking numbers, like what the fuck, just do x/9 you chucklefucks.
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>>145129227
Go to sleep grandpa
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>>145129291
>just do x/9 you chucklefucks.
The whole point of the second number is that it denotes how many of the nine you've seen.

2/9 is a shit score, but when they write 2/2 instead then you know they like 100% of your favourites instead of ~22%.
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>>145129324
If that's what we're going to be basing this on then don't bother with the threads at all. That's nothing but circlejerking.
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>>145129354
You've become incomprehensible, like a duknrpsn
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This list is retarded. A bunch of stuff on there is really polarizing and you have the same chance of somebody praising you or telling you, you have shit taste for liking it (at least on /a/)
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>>145129266
>>145129316
I'm only 24 JR, also:

>You must be at least 18 or older to use this site

Underagers GTFO!
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>>145124878
>only watched and sort of enjoyed Haibane Renmei as well as NHK

Feels pretty fucking good to not be a gay man with no personality.
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>>145129440
moldy old hag
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>>145129205
>I wish people tried to make 3x3 threads fun again instead of just spamming ratings with no words, they feel so pointless

This. One time I tried to invite discussion to a thread and they basically told me to fuck off. Those threads are so incredibly shitty now.
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>>145129470
>hag

Ara, ara anon-kun the correct term is "Christmas cake."

Also how'd you know that I'm a grill?
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>>145129384
>if all you're doing is looking for praise, then stop having the threads because it's just people circlejerking.

Also rating doesn't have to mean "what shows do you like that I also like"
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>>145129458
Those are the only 2 shows you watched and enjoyed from that entire chart? Why do you continue to watch anime then?
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>>145129533
/a/ is a male-only club, grandma.
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>>145129600
Obviously he watches it just for the Lolis, like most otaku in Japan do.
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>>145129612
The Fujo threads would beg to differ, also most of the anime I listed on that list is enjoyed by men too soo---

Hell, I could have chose to include Fushigi Yugi which also is a contender for my top 10 but I wanted to make things at least a little gender neutral.
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>>145124878
As usual, people don't get the point even though it's written on the image.
>hurrdurr you're just upset that we said you have shit taste
>hurrdurr you just don't like shows that make you think
>hurrdurr go back to watching K-On and SAO, pleb

This chart is missing Eva, which is on over half of the 3x3s that I've seen.
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Is this a Digithread?
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>>145127613
That reply completely works with the post you linked
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>>145129729
>No Sailor Moon, Rumiko Takahashi series, Princess Tutu, Kaleido Star, Cardcaptor Sakura, Candy Candy, Oniisama-E, Nadia or Escaflowne on that list.

No the list sucks and is barely even half complete!
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>>145124878
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Came to this thread to say that JoJo is the best manga ever made coming to take the title of best anime ever made
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>>145129894
Fuck off Urobuchi, think i wouldnt notice
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>>145129681
I always thought that the fujo threads were just composed by homos. I don't know what's worse between women or faggots desu
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>>145129227
No one cares.
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>>145129894
LNs really are killing anime though.

Also glad to see that the image creator noted how incredibly overrated SHAFT is.
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>>145129894
>16 year olds even knowing what a World Masterpiece Theatre Anime IS

Grandma here to tell you that you're full of shit! As evidenced by all the underagers here trying to shut me up.
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>>145129894
>that pic
Typical 14 yo MAL shiteaters in a nutshell.

Just check this fullretard's list: http://myanimelist.net/animelist/Captain220

My favorite line is 'Don't care if I should rate this high for the sake of my elitist street cred. Literally bored me to tears.' Remember kids, giving scores based on your own opinion and taste is futile.
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>>145129918
>JoJo
>Best manga

That's not how you spell Fruits Basket, Ceres, Angel's Sanctuary or Please Save My Ear anon.
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What's your favorite unpopular/"unsafe" anime?

I enjoyed pic related.

Also
>dat lelouch voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8NgPddoPkQ
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>>145130081
>rating shows before finishing them
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>>145130081
Butthurt poser spotted
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>>145130081
Skimmed a little, his list seems mostly fine to me. What's the issue?
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>>145130091
I searched up Fruits Basket

Do I really need to search the others or are you just fucking with me anon
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>>145130102
>What's your favorite unpopular/"unsafe" anime?
Vastly inferior to the manga? Yes.
Adapted by one of the worst studios in existence? Yes.
Awful anime-only ending? Yes.
Missing characters? Yes.
Still great fun? Yes.

Also Yuka best girl.
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>>145129729
Too bad Eva is overrated. Yeah, it was enjoyable, but people who praise it like it's some type of crowning achievement in the anime medium have no idea what they're talking about.
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>>145130189
>I've never heard of Fruits Basket before
...Seriously?
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>>145130091
Isn't Fruit's Basket just another generic romantic comedy?

My dumb sister read this as her first manga ever so I highly doubt it's any good.
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>>145130229
Only "unpopular/unsafe" on /a/.

Still popular amoung 14-year-olds on Facebook.
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>>145130248
Lol
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>>145130234
People who praise EVA are mostly those who've seen less than 20 anime. Just saying.
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>>145130102
This looks like a straight up edgefest.
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>>145130279
We're on /a/ though aren't we.

Something like Ping Pong would be unsafe on Facebook even though we all know that one's great.
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>>145130356
It's pretty fun and light-hearted , like Slayers.
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>>145130278
>Generic romantic comedy

Anon if you finish the manga you'll see that it's farrrre from that, it's an extremely dark, psychological drama dealing with the cycle of abusive parents and moving on.

Also it contains actual best girl in the history of manga so there's that too.
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>>145129729
3x3 threads are shit and are full of people who rely on other people to affirm their tastes when everyone who has ever posted a 3x3 at least once already has garbage taste.
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>>145130418
Ping Pong is the contrarian anime for contrarians. It's trash. Deal with it.
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>>145130234
>>145130290
Praising something is completely fine. But when you start to look down on other shows just because they're not (insert favorite here) is when you become retarded.
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>>145129533

There isn't a man in the world who'd rate Inuyasha that highly
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>>145130356
>>145130431
It's both. Mood whiplash the anime

I liked it too.
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>>145130457
>muh abusive parents I don't know how to get them to fuck off

Literally anything that relies on abusive parents to sell as a dark story and drama is not worth my attention. I guess I understand why my sister was so enamored with it, because for some reason she thought our parents were abusive when she was just being an emo retard all the time. She deserved all the shit she got, and thankfully she grew out of that phase.
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>>145130189
>Not even having heard of the best selling shojo manga in America.

Seriously now, underagers are shitting up this board bad! It's why we get comments like "contrarian faggot" or "Grandma" for even listing a World Masterpiece Theatre anime as a favorite!
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>>145124878
Cut off the top part and you've got a pretty good rec chart.

Criticising people for liking those shows has become a boring meme by now. People defend this stance like sheep and always say the same shit.
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>>145130457
JoJo has fights with so many ideas you could start a brand new manga with one idea alone, hows some parents being unoriginal supposed to top that
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>>145128286
It doesn't have to be profound. It can just be something that affected you on a personal level. NHK spoke to a lot of shutins on a very personal level. It can just be a show you thought was really fun. I didn't learn much by watching Samurai Flamenco, but it's the most upbeat and entertaining thing I've ever seen. I'll take that over classic literature just because I personally enjoyed it more.
People shouldn't look at these lists or 3x3s as others trying to be objective.
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>Had the misfortune of airing the same season as Code Geass and TTGL

Too bad, it was some decent space opera.
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>>145130278
Congrats your dumb sister has better taste than you
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>>145124878
To be fair, this list has some of the most well-produced and well-told series that are generally agreed upon as being some of the best overall -- as well as being series or that are relatively well-known in the West. It's not hard at all to see how someone could pick 9 from these for a 3x3.

Also,
>no Eva on here
Bias is showing.
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>>145129894
Your pic needs work, how can someone like SHAFT yet not have monogatari on the 3x3? 0/10. SAD!
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>>145130528
But Inuyasha is a shonen, y'know originally meant for BOYS in the same vein as Naruto and Bleach (though it's the best of the three)also it was created by the master of shonen manga Rumiko Takahashi herself!
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>>145130698
>Donald Trump ventures into anime: the post
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>>145130598
I don't live in america senpai
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>>145130705
Shut up hag
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>>145130761
You're not missing out on much. It's a shit manga.
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>>145130582
Well when 90% of anime and manga is either moeblob harem shit, shonen stupidity, fujobaiting or "LOLLOL I'M SO RANDUMB!!!~" a manga dealing with the psychological and societal fallouts of abuse is a DAMN breath of fresh air!

Also why don't you try actually reading the series before judging? This is honest to god actual abuse, like parents beating their kids, selling them and outright despising them!
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>>145124878
I don't buy into the idea that people here pick their favourites to get approval. Almost everyone here is anonymous, so what would they gain from a stranger's compliments?
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>>145129729
>>145130692
Inarticulate shitters are constantly attacking Eva and the people who like it. So having Eva in the picture would go against the point the pic is trying to make.
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>>145124878
What's third row second column?
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I'm so glad there's no video game equivalent of MAL. MAL is objectively garbage, because it implies "more anime watched already means better taste" which is a wrong notion.
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>>145130186
He's just advertising his own list.
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>>145130688
Is Akito your Fruits Basket waifu too anon? If so you have 10/10 taste all around!

Truly the best girl and reverse trap of all time.
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>>145129894
>BakaBT
Why?
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>>145130771
>Not liking or even having heard of Rumiko Takahashi, creator of such classics like Ranma and Urusei Yatsura

Yep, sure is underage in here...
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>>145130800
>Almost everyone here is anonymous, so what would they gain from a stranger's compliments?

Here, let me show you why people here seek to gain other another anonymous person's approval.

You're a dumb fucking cunt. I hate people like you. What's your favorite anime, huh? I bet it's fucking trash like you. Maybe the artstyle is as ugly as your face. I can already tell just by your post that you're probably some newfag who just came fresh off the fucking /b/oat.
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>>145130896
How do I get a bite out of that Christmas Cake?
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>>145130790
>Shit manga

Thank you for proving what shit taste you have, like 80% of /a/. What, the girls in the manga aren't "UGUUU" enough for you or something? Lack of a Kirito LN protagonist that you could self-insert into?
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>>145130955
By having long hair, being a Jew and living in Los Angeles anon.
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>>145130815
Except Eva is THE entry-level ~deep~ anime. If you want a predictor of boring "hurr I'm cultured" taste, it doesn't get any more generic than Eva.

LoGH too, in my opinion, but that's neither here nor there.
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>>145130896
Oh you mean Whomiko Takawhoshi?

The creator of well known and revered classics like Ranwhat and Whorusei Whatswhora?
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>>145130418
Unsafe on Facebook would be anything that isn't/wasn't/doesn't:
-on MAL's top 100 most popular
-the most popular anime of the season or the year
-shounen
-edgy blood and gore fests (Elfen Lied, Mirai Nikki, Another, etc.)
-hold enough depth for some person who's either mentally or physically 14 to feel smart about, but not too much depth because then it will go over their head
-have merchandise sold at Hot Topic
and/or
-on mainstream TV (example: Toonami) at some point
This means that the majority of /a/'s favorites as well as what appears in 3x3s is/are right out.
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>>145124878
Being a special snowflake of course.
How dare someone like well acclaimed shows like they're well acclaimed for a reason!
Seriously though, there's neither good nor boring taste.
Articulating what you like or dislike about something well is a lot more valuable than having "interesting" taste.
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>>145131007
If you don't even know Urusei Yatsura, the iconic series that practically SHAPED modern anime and invented Moe then you need to leave /a/ and come back when you're not such a fucking newfag to anime kiddo.
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>>145130684
It's also pretty fucking gay.
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>>145130896
Didn't you know that Kyoukai no Rinne is, like, super oldfag tier?
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>>145131111
Nice try but that's her latest and newest series anon.
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>>145131078
Oh, no, I know what it is. I just never watched it because I'm not 50 years old.
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>>145131096
If it's Terra E, then there's good reason for that. It was written by the same person who wrote Kaze to Ki no Uta, one of the first gay-for-girls shows.
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>>145130999
Besides that Nadia was better and was the true best work of Anno's.

Probably because it was co-created with Miyazaki

I still like Eva but c'mon Nadia deserves it's accolades and popularity more.
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>>145130999
>entry-level
>being a relevant term when applied to anime
When will these meme end.
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>>145131244
/lit/, please go.
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>>145131184
>implying you must be old to like old things
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>>145128144
No, it's like if someone asked what your favourite albums were and you said "Loveless, ITAOTS, VU & Nico, Skinny Fists, OK Computer". Sure you might like music a bit more than the average pleb but you're still someone who hasn't listened to much music.
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>>145131111
What's your point?
Is the fact that she did some newer series somehow supposed to change the fact that she did some really influential ones in the past?
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Having taste to me is finding your own "niche" for lack of a better word. Sure this can involve liking some or all of the popular masterpieces, but if you drop a favourites list on me where that's all I'm getting then that ain't taste, that just shows you can google a best of list. If your personal taste is identical to that of the absolutely homogenized aggregate of anime fans then can you really call it personal? People who get all defensive about this shit are absurd, they're just insecure and aren't willing to carve their own path.
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>>145131289
No. It's the fact that someone said you have to be old and into old anime to know who she is.
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>>145129776
IT'S HAPPENING
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>>145124878
It's really easy. Anything that is objectively good or liked by the general public or anyone not an anon is the worst crap ever made.

Everything else is gold
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>>145129205

It's impossible. People in 3x3 threads haven't even watched anything outside their bubble, nor do they try to. There's a lot of interesting ways to use 3x3s other than trying to compile a list of the most "cultured" Japanese children's cartoons.
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>>145131362
That's not what he said though.
The statement that you would know her if you're into old anime doesn't imply that that's the only way to know her.
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>>145131184
I bet you're the type who brags how they never watch old black and white movies too huh?

Don't worry kid, you'll grow out of that edgy "I'm too cool for school! Look at me hate all the old classics and refuse to watch them!" attitude someday.

Also you're missing out cause Urusei Yatsura is genuinely funny and better than 90% of this season's current offerings, certaintly funnier than your average "cute girls doing cute things" show.
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>Stop liking what I also like!
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>>145131578
Can we all agree though that anyone who unironically likes the second half of Sword Art Online has objectively the worst taste and are the Twilight audience of the anime world?
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>>145124878
There is no such thing as good taste. Liking stuff that isn't good and disliking good things is what makes taste.
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>>145131628
lol damn slow down there buddy with those outrageously controversial opinions
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>>145131628
>Can we all agree though that anyone who unironically likes any part of Sword Art Online has objectively the worst taste and are the Twilight audience of the anime world?
FTFY
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>>145131628
>implying the whole thing wasn't trash
How the fuck were people suckered in so hard by that awful first episode
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>>145131713
I agree the whole thing was mostly trash, I'm just not as harsh towards the first half cause it at least was a little heartwarming, actually had a relationship cemented and wasn't any worse then any other generic, mediocre harem.

The second half though enters Green Green garbage-tier levels.
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>>145124878
Being able to form your opinion and not letting random faggots on the internet decide what is good and what is not.

I respect people who genuinely like SAO more than faggots who put Tatami Galaxy on a 3x3 sheet to fit in on /a/.
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>>145131848
>I respect those that genuinely like SAO

I hope to GOD this only applies to the first half of the series...
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>>145125008
Whats the center one?
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>>145131628
Can we also agree that anyone that likes Utena and Princess Tutu automatically has objectively great taste?
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>>145131848
You shouldn't respect anyone who makes a 3x3, period.
As long as you can't distinguish between someone who genuinely likes it and someone who's just trying to fit in, it's hypocrytical to criticize someone for listing Tatami Galaxy.
You're just encouraging people to not be genuine about liking something in another way.
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>>145132104
This is why everything about the hipster contrarian attitude sucks.
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>>145132027
Depends on what they're paired with, considering nearly everyone likes those.

>>145132104
Nothing wrong with seeking validation.
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>>145132027
>Princess Tutu
Yes.

>Utena
Maybe, pretentious shitters love Utena blindly.
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>>145132027
Liking those says absolutely nothing about a person. Although I love those shows above all else.
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>>145132225
Believe it or not I've even seen some contrarian faggots hate on Utena saying it's too "convoluted," ragging on Ikuhara or because it's a "SJW/Tumblr crowd" anime.
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>>145132326
>Maybe, pretentious shitters love Utena blindly
Since when did they impede it from being a good show on its own.
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>>145132027
No. The idea of "objectively great taste" is what allows people to posture and create an image of boring taste, so we can't allow any series to be considered "objectively great".
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>>145132352
Sounds like a master baiter to me, anon.
Anyone using terms like that is likely a crossie, anyways.
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>>145132326
I like Utena not because of its artsy-fartsy symbolism, but what it DOES with that symbolism and the message it's trying to send to the world through it.

Actual pretentious anime is nothing BUT self-indulgent symbolism with no coherent message/theme to back it up.
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>>145132225
>Nothing wrong with seeking validation
If you're seeking it for your taste in anime, there certainly is.
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>>145132413
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>>145131665

Taste is objective. Anyone trying to convince you otherwise is probably a jew trying to sell you something.

That doesn't mean half the things in the OP meet the standard of good, though.
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>>145132413
>Boring

So liking two shows when they're both t the deconstruction of the Fairytale genre and one's whole story is all about creating a revolution from societal norms and smashing the patriarchy that control these norms is considered "boring?"

This is why I hate any and all contrarianfags.
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>>145132500
If you say so, then it must be true.
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>>145132528
>Taste is objective.
A pretty self-contradictory statement. There are objective measures for determining the quality of animation, storytelling and the like. But all of those have nothing to do with taste.
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>>145128286
But they ARE well made. Monster reads like a really good thriller with interesting characters. NHK isn't bad either, and LoGH is very entertaining. Though people who put captions/quotes of LoGH thinking it's a deep philosophical anime really should open a book.
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>>145132623

Good taste is liking things you legitimately, personally enjoy. Which is to say, it's the same for everyone although it differs in the specifics.

Which means not making a facade of appreciation based on certain criteria or to fit into a certain social niche.
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>>145128949
Nope
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>>145132436
>All art, no content anime

What is Urobuchi's works?
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>>145132591
That's right. Seeking validation for something that doesn't deserve it or should even need it is a bad thing.
Maybe you're insecure about your taste in anime but you shouldn't be.
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>>145132409
It doesn't anon, it's a great show; judge someone's else taste it's a whole different thing.
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>>145132725

Monster starts interestingly enough, but Urusawa flubs the later parts as usual.
LoGH falls back onto the author's hamfisted ideas about politics and history far too much

>>145132547

I don't know how you can get Utena so wrong, unless you confused it for YKA or have only seen 5 episodes
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>>145133150
They didn't get it wrong.
They honestly believe their own bullshit.

It's garbage tier softcore porn with a dumb plot for horny girls and dudes who wish they were girls. But they can't accept that or even be honest about it so they make up this whole big thing about RARGE GURL POWAH PATRIARCHY.
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>>145132857
It's funny how Urobuchi has little to do with the art and direction of the anime he writes.
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>>145132784
That I can agree with.
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>>145133150
>Get Utena so wrong

I don't know how YOU could! Did it seriously fly over your head that the whole "End Of The World" and bringing the "Revolution" wasn't about ending strict societal norms and the patriarchy? Why do you think most of the characters problems seemed to center around gender, orientation or incest issues?
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>>145132784
What you've described is honesty, which, while I agree is more important than appearances, is another matter. Taste is what you like and a reflection of your character. Unless you believe all people are equal (don't be a commie), then it must be a given that tastes cannot be equal.
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>>145133262
Explain further
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>>145133451
>Don't be a commie

/pol/ is that way >>
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>>145132547
Why oh why must I enjoy the same show as fucks like you?
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>>145133553
>Falling for the anti-SJW meme

You anti-SJW Trump voters are just as bad as the extreme ones on Tumblr.
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>>145124946
this can be true, but only if I write it
since you wrote it, it is untrue
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>>145133606
>americans
I was referring to you being a pain in the ass know it all who fell for the deconstruction meme.
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>>145133436
Patriarchy is good though
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>>145133782
But they are. Are you one of those faggots who STILL don't know the definition?

All deconstruction means is applying real-world scenarios whilst tearing down the rosy, unrealistic tropes that certain genres apply both of which Princess Tutu and Utena do.

It's an actual thing, get over it and stop whining about it just because you know you're not smart enough recognize which series it applies to.
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>>145133837
Why do most anime viewers like Utena then?
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>>145131978
Katanagatari
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>>145133436

It's literally a retelling of Demian, you fell for the Ikuhara memes hard
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>>145133884
Like I said, pain in the ass know it all.
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>>145133973
...Which was a novel ALSO all about the lies societal norms and embracing only the "right" things (which is considered just an illusion)

Lern2analyze
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>>145124878
this is why 3x3 threads are utterly meaningless
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>>145134011
>"I-I need to save face for not knowing the true definition of a word so I'm just gonna insult any anon that points it out! Y-Yeah that'll show them!"
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>>145134182
Are you trying to help your case or what?
You're annoying, anon, face the facts.
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>>145133436
And it's faggots like you that have to make everything about their pathetic /pol/ vs SJW "battle". SKU has so much to offer yet your understanding of it is that of someone who only watched the first episode with one eye and half an ear.
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>>145134110

Not remotely about anything as banal as "smashing the patriarchy". In fact Utena's masculine, strong woman character is an idealistic facade that breaks down as the series goes on.
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>>145134387
I watched the whole series AND he movie, I've read tons of analysis on it and I know that's not the only theme Utena explores, it's also meant to be a deconstruction of both the Fairytale and Shojo genres and is about the trials and tribulations of growing up and facing the "real" world, essentially leaving adolescence.

It's main theme and message though is to challenge societal norms and the powers above that socially construct and institute these norms and how harmful they are to all of us, both on an individual level and on a societal one. Ultimately we're ALL living in a "World of Illusions" where we think only OUR way is the right and moral way, the true path when really it is just an illusion constructed by those in power who are to afraid to let the world just BE without these socially constructed norms and institutions.

Utena is a retelling of the early-century novel of Demian that challenges these exact Christian norms but with a feminist twist.
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>>145133884
That is one of the meme definitions the anime community uses and the word is heavily buzzworded at this point. It has little to do with the actual definition of the word which was coined by some french post-modernist and was used in the context of language and not genres.

Plus something being a deconstruction says nothing about its quality therefore it's only used by fedora posters such as yourself.
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>>145134567
Exactly, it's meant to deconstruct and break down and challenge BOTH the concepts of masculinity AND femininity, gender roles in general as well as the whole CONCEPT of gender as instituted by society.

Everything in Utena is meant for us to see how horrible social constructs can be.
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>>145134582
I see. Yes that is a much better way of putting it.
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>>145124878
whats the anime with the red haired space girl in the bottom middle?
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>>145134799
I think it's Love Live.
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>>145134665
>MUH BUZZWORD~


With how often that's being used just to criticize someone's language, it's already becoming a buzzword in and of itself.

Anyways regardless of what it's original meaning is, when used in the context of literary genres that is now what it means and it's widely accepted by most media critics. Deal with it, language can change which is... ironically what the word deconstruction was originally supposed to describe, OH SNAP!

That last part you said is true though, both Tutu and Utena however are great examples at deconstructions as well as being good shows in general.
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>>145134888
Is Love Live the antithesis and antichrist to every MAL elitist out there?
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>>145134997

That or MD Geist
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>>145134799
Paprika /spoonfeed
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>>145134774
That's what I meant when I said its about The Revolution is ultimately about destroying these social norms and concepts that society has followed and instituted throughout history, patriarchy unfortunately just happens to be one of those top norms and the whole system at the top that institutes and constructs these norms or "moral values."

Sorry if I sounded a bit too SJW there but that was honestly just the point I was trying to make. Utena is ultimately trying to teach us that all morality is relative, unless it actually hurts someone which is exactly what the Patriarchy and Conservative right oppose, because they try and attach moral value and significance to things such as sexual mores and gender when they're ultimately meaningless and hurt society more than they help.
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Are you pretending that there's nobody that shits on those? You have 3 fucking Gainax anime and Bake up there.
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>>145135186
You should really stop sitting on your wall anon.

>>145134799
Gunbuster. You should watch it.
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>>145135218
Yeah, my bad really. I guess I've just seen too many posts reduce it to "hurr feminism".
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>>145124878
Your 3x3 has to have LoGH, AnJ, Cobra, Rose of Versailles, any Gainax show, a seemingly "contrarian" pick like KLK or *gatari, a Ghibli movie, a "safe" mainstream shonen pick like HxH and finally your free pick of an obscure old show (e.g. 80s Magic Bus or 90s Go Nagai OVAs or basically anything kingmenu's ever "subbed").

Once you've finished your chart, you can proudly proclaim to the world that you have acceptable taste in chinese cartoons and that it is your duty to make that known.
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>>145131353
>niche
What if I like puzzle-plots for example? Then all you've got is Eva, FLCL, Haibane, Tex, Utena, Angel's Egg, Penguindrum, maybe Star Driver and Paranoia Agent. All of these are popular "masterpieces" that fit into an oddly specific niche. Same if someone likes anime with unique visual designs then it's obvious he'll like Dezaki, Yuasa and Nakamura shows. If someone likes cyberpunk they'll like Tex, GITS, Lain and Ergo Proxy.

Their are lots of specific preferences you can have that will make you prefer the shows on the OP's chart.

So the way I see its not that people in 3x3 threads will only watch those types of shows or will pick them to sound smart. It's just that people with those types of preferences will eventually be attracted to anime.
- if you like puzzle plots then what do you have among western series? Twin Peaks? Carnivale wasn't finished. Prisoner just has an ending like that. Lost went all over the place. So in the end you've got one series that might satisfy that kind of preference.
- unique artstyle - there is some of that in western animation. But mainly in film, while series have the demographic limitations we all know of which make them less appealing to an older audience.
- Cyberpunk - Again, western film has a few classics that loosely fit into the genre like Blade Runner or the Matrix. But there's nowhere as an abundance of them as in anime.
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>>145135488
That's really just one part of it's whole big picture so you're right there anon.
Utena though is ultimately a very "leftist" anime and can probably be the poster child for a "left-wing propaganda anime"

However one mustn't forget that just like in Utena, feminism is only one small part and parcel of the whole leftist movement. When it comes down to it, leftism is at its chore, anarchism and is really all about destroying and tearing down social constructs as well as "traditional values." Leftism is all about change, moving forward, REVOLUTION! (See what I did there?)
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>>145134997
Even the biggest Love Live fans admit that the anime is bad.
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>>145133546
>you must be from /pol/ to be against communism
what happened to /a/
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>>145135896
communism/socialism is inevitable mathematically as the proletariat population grows and grows, you should probably just accept that mate.
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>>145135654
Again, you gotta dig deeper my dude. If that's "all you've got" then you really haven't honestly explored anything beyond an entry level rec chart. I've seen plenty of favourites lists in that vein that had personality beyond the usual Lain, Kaiba, etc.
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>>145135770
Fuck yourself my man, I can and will be elitist about Love Live.
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>>145136209
It's only inevitable if technological progress leads to a post-scarcity society with robots taking care of everything
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>>145135218
>>145135656

The conservative right (things like Falwell and the Moral Majority) has not been relevant as a primary social pillar since the 80s at least. Most people that wish to fight it are just chasing spectres at this point. It's just a dinosaur waiting to die at this point, and you can start to see the roots of what's growing to replace it this election cycle.

The modern political left (not the traditional one) has adopted the role of as arbiter and enforcer of a very specific sort of morality, which is why you get the extreme backlash against SocJus from former modern-liberatarian camps. Utena comes from a much more classic sort of philosophy that hadn't become what it hated yet.

Offtopic but whatever, there are few places left to talk about politics sanely left on the internet.
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>>145134896
These critics you talk you talk about wouldn't be just anime reviewers, would they?
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>>145124878
Ghost in the Shell and Angel's Egg are the only decent things on this chart and they are both 6/10.
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>>145136727
Oshii is a hack, get some taste.
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>>145136727
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>>145136727
It sounds like you aren't actually an anime fan
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>>145137129
>you have to like x and y to be a fan of anime
lol
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>>145136209
sure comrade
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>>145136284
I have. But you just won't find that many more of these titles unless it's experimental animation, which is usually just short features. Among mainstream anime these types of works are rare because they're rather high risk projects. Even among the works I mentioned, lots of them were by the same people.
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>>145136209
Come back to me when you've grown past 13 years of age and managed to worm your way out of your edgy rebellious phase. By the time you realize that communism hasn't ever worked, you'll realize that what we have now is an imperfect but at least functional system, as opposed to the idealistic but in practice dysfunctional communism.
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>>145124878
>late night
>posted at 16:30:35
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>>145137453
If you really haven't found anything uniquely valuable to you then I guess you're just doomed to be eternally tasteless. Tough break, kid.
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>>145124878
Almost all of the anime listed on that pic are good, if not great, it's just that people are faggy about the way they like them.

People just watch some of the 3x3core anime and then proclaim that they are masters of the medium and refuse to watch or acknowledge qualities in other niches of anime.
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I love Gochiusa,Yuru Yuri and Akage no Anne. How bad is my taste?
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If it has over 1000 members on MAL, it's shit.
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>>145138112
Non-existant
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>>145137868
My taste is god-tier though, so I don't know what you're talking about.
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>>145138819
What taste?
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>>145138926
My taste.
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>>145139056
No such thing.
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>>145139303
Sure thing.

Wait, Bob?
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>>145139375
Mom?
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>>145131414
Would you mind listing each show here? I only recognise 2
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>>145139741

Fujiko Fujio A no Mumako
Umi no Yami, Tsuki no Kage
Radio City Fantasy
Zillion : Burning Night
Chikyuu Monogatari Telepath 2500
MAPS (Original, not the 90s one)
Harbor Light Story
Prefectural Earth Defense Force
Minky Momo

Quality of them varies, but it was just meant to be a sampling of 80s and early 90s shows for people who think old anime is nothing but mecha and hyperviolence (not that I am against those things in any way)
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>>145140170
Thanks very much senpai
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>>145124878
My theory on this is that many people with "boring taste," simply just try to hard to take objective stances on things. So when they enjoy a show that may be bad from more objective perspective they might mark it down for such reasons. But even though they didn't derive great enjoyment from a certain show, it's overshadowed by their appreciation for how well it may be put together, how well character development played out in the end, how well the atmosphere was fleshed out by the music and art style, or something different. 100% of the shows/movies on this chart do something or many things extraordinarily well so it's not hard to see.

There are quiet a few shows that I think are great but I cannot enjoy. Monster is one of those, it's great but for many reasons I find it absolutely dreadful to watch. Same with Angels Egg. But depending on my rating system I could either choose to give them "10/10 best show ever," because I have immense appreciation for them. Or I could also say "ehh 4/10, feels like the director just ejaculated on me and I wasn't ready for it." My feelings for the show haven't changed, just the parameters for my score.
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>>145124878
I can't imagine how lifeless the creator of this image must be.

>look at all these TASTELESS people on /a/ tend who like canonically /a/ approved anime
No shit.
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>>145125008
What is the bottom right corner?
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