Patlabor

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Shinobu?

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>CG

>>145038375
Time for me to watch the original i guess.

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>>145039212
Drawn mechs are dead, Jim.

;_;

>>145038375
>Director: Yasuhiro Yoshiura
Will watch.

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>>145038375
>CG

Is Orange doing the CG?

>>145039212
coconut gun

>>145039940
It's probably Khara.

It's a 10 minute short just so you know. Don't get too excited.

https://u.pomf.is/grrrem.webm

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Any word on voice actors?

>>145038375
dumb face, even for a robot.

>>145038375
>Noa isnt there
Nope

>>145039212
Embrace the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhwXxjiqDEU

Is IG animating it again?

>>145040480
No.

>>145038375
>CG

At least I have old anime.

>Make a 10 minute short.
>Call it a reboot.

>>145038375
>No Noa
No deal

>>145040538
The CG looks fine though.

>>145040682
CG shit should stay in video games and not into anime.

>>145040775

you are not paying for both though so they have no choice but to use a cheaper version to cater to the cheapest generation of audience

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>no more hand drawn Ingram
;_;
>>145040612
This guy gets it.

>>145040863
Then maybe anime should fucking die if it is just going to be some goddamn zombie while we look to the past and see how it was better.

>>145040524
There goes my Hype! Well atleast we have Kenii Kawai

>>145040775
That's your opinion and unfortunately for you, nobody in the industry is listening.

>>145041038
>nobody in the industry is listening.

And that's why it is dying.

>>145040973
>>145041102

It is doing fine as long as they are cutting costs and ditching cheapskates like you.

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>>145039212

Complaining about CG by this point is pointless, there's no way back now.

But not everything is despair, as the tech will keep advancing and getting easier on the eyes as time goes on.

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>>145040612
This

>>145040999
Just curious, did you like the PV? If so, why does it matter if IG is involved?

>>145041102
It's not dying though.

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Locomotives desu.

>>145038375
New
>>145040880
Old

CGI looks much better while having less stills/more fluid movement.

Thank god for digital art

>>145041253
What's the point in movement if it looks like fucking shit, it's always jarring and out of place.

>>145041322
Whats the point of animation if its just stills without movement?

>>145038375

Hyped up. The original scripwriter (TV, movies, and GITS 1995) is involved. I don't think they'll manage to make a worse fuck up than Arise.

>>145041381
At least it looks nice.

>>145041429

only for your group of old jaded faggots who don't spend much on anime.

CG look better for the majority

>>145040612
Maybe the VA is dead and they try to honour he/she?

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>>145041764

>this buttblasted

>>145041177
I just like IG when it involves mecha/Sci-Fi

>>145041158
cute boy.

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>>145041527

>>145038375
>Giant robot
>Giant revolver
Why is this allowed?

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>>145043371

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>CGI

I want this meme to die already.

>>145038375
It's just a ten minute short.

>>145038375
>Patlabor in CGI
Nothing is sacred anymore. This shit it depressing. Why do they have to do this? This is not fucking animation, I can understand if it were the exception but every single fucking anime has CG these days and many have started to be full CG.
I don't want to witness this.

>mecha anime
>the mecha, the main main sellpoint of the anime, is in CGI
What's the fucking point?

It's like ordering an hamburger and getting served third rate meat with decent bread. Who fucking cares about the bread if the meat is garbage?

>>145038375
>inb4 celbabies complaining about CGI
This looks amazing.
I'm hype.

>>145041197
thats a happy looking train

>>145040612
Fucking this. I want my Noa back

>>145042893
Stop bullying Noa

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>>145038375
fuck Im exited
Where's Noa though

>>145045671
But there is Noa

>>145040612
Noa is overrated.

>>145038375
>CG
>Terrible character designs
>Terrible voice acting

I'll give the first episode a shot, but I'm pretty sure this is just going to be Active Raid S3.

>>145046054
Fuck off Noa is the best

>>145046129
Original Patlabor was full of qualitty.

>>145046195
She's okay.

>>145040412
I have absolutely zero problem with 3D. I have a problem with people sticking 3d in 2d and telling us to pretend we don't see it.

>>145046373
2D mechs looks like shit in TV.

>>145046255
Your point?

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>>145038375
>CGI mecha
Just murder me in my sleep already desu.

>>145046454
CG mechs are better unless it's high budget movie

I am under strong impression celfags and anti-CG people don't actually enjoy anime, they enjoy bitching about how shit it is these days.
>>145046623
Now now, Captain Earth and ConRevo looked quite good (CE's actual contents we can omit), and Regalia looked quite decent as well until Actas' usual inaptitude in scheduling hit.
I like both 2D and 3D mecha equally. I just want an /a/ that doesn't endlessly whine and bitch about CGI, when can I expect that? 10 years? 15?

It's just a single 10 minute short, not a full series. So it will look very good even for CG mecha. I'm glad they're keeping the original mecha designs, unlike what Next Generation (the live action one) did.

I'm only a bit disappointed because it just reminds me how great the original was, and how we will never get anything like it again. And with this I don't mean "muh traditional animation", but in the characterization, chemistry between all the characters and lack of pandering for a very specific demographic. As the disappointment that Active Raid was showed us, It's just not possible these days.

>>145046778
>I just want an /a/ that doesn't endlessly whine and bitch about [thing]
Literally never ever

>>145046778
I enjoy anime. It's just that CGI looks like shit in it.

>>145046439
>Who is Hidenori Fukuoka
>Who is Eiji Nakada
>Who is Shuichi Kaneko
>Who is Yasushi Muraki
>Who is Shingo Abe
>Who is Nobuhiko Genma
>Who is Kasuki Itou
>Who is Seiichi Nakatani
>Who is Motherfucking Segoon Kim
>Who is Shingo Tamagawa

All freelance mecha animators that work on TV shows. Do a bit more research than not at all before you post on a topic next time.

>expect good Patlabor thrad with some nostalgia wanking
>just bitching about CGI that doesn't look bad
>Not knowing Xapa knows how to apply cgi it well

Come on now

Music gave me nostalgia.

>>145046787
>Active Raid
>disappointment
Back to your rocking chair.

>>145046904
But it is. It's a poor attempt at doing Patlabor.

the CGI looks like shit

why does it always look like choppy shit

why can't nips do CGI right

>>145046904
Literally no one, in the west or in Nippon, liked Active Raid. Sales were shit and threads were non-existent. It was like watching Rail Wars without the fanservice.

>>145046904
It wasn't disappointing to me because I expected shit. And shit I got.

>>145045207
>animating a 3D model is not animation

>>145046886
B T F O
T F
F T
O F T B

>>145046886
>muh sakuga
And? 2D mechs looks like shit 90% of time.

>>145047369
CGI mechs look like shit 100% of the time.

>>145047395
Only if you're CGI hater who think WETA tier CGI can be achievable in shitty low budget anime.

We're never getting 4.0.

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>>145039610
It hurts.

Around 40 people on /a/ seem to know Patlabor. All hope is not lost.

>>145047395
>100% of the time.
Gundam Unicorn looks fantastic though, and it uses a good amount of CGI mechs
It's just hard to find good CGI to blend in well with the enviroment
Xapa did the Rebuild movies which I personally thought looked gorgeous
I don't see the issue, stop thinking in the extreme that ALL CGI is destined to look like the new Code Geass garbage

>>145047542
>CGI hater
What does that even mean? It simply looks like shit.

>>145038375
I want to hype but I'm still waiting on suns for the Next Generation,

>>145047784
Hating all CGI is pretty big trend right now.

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>>145047969
Because it looks like shit, yeah.

It's like saying "Hating murder is a big trend right now".

>>145046439
Get a better tv.
>>145046623
Yeah, no.

>>145048156
Post 2D mechs. No sakuga

>>145038375

Something something arguing and your wrong and should never be happy

>>145048100
Shitty analogy.

>>145045142

Apparently nobody got the message or is listening. I think it might be related to the Nihon Animator Mihonichi project though

>>145048311
Hating shit is normal.

>>145048327

That's cause the geniuses on /a/ are too busy shitposting about CGI in mecha anime again.

>>145046887

Welcome to neo /a/

>>145048100
Are you telling me this looks like shit?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juw9fTvGmHg

>>145048327
The only thing that matters here is that we can use this short to have a circle jerk about how traditional is so much more perfect than 3d CGI when animating trash.

>>145046129

You're again not paying attention to the part where it's a 10 minute short so guess you'll actually be watching the whole thing after all

>>145047183
>>animating a 3D model is not animation
It's not, only hand-drawn animation is real animation or animation you should give a afuck about anyway.
>>145048243
Every show ever. Sakuga has nothing to do with how it looks, it's about fucking animation.

>>145046255
which one? The OVA (Mamoru Osshi timeline) were pretty fucking great

>>145046904

Look at this guy trying to be fucking clever

>>145047752

Asking /a/ to think in non-extreme terms? Good luck with that one.

>>145048443

See that I'll believe from /a/ 100%. That's framing something as an argument and comparison, the only way most of /a/ understands how to interact.

>>145048370
What's shit is subjective when it comes to aesthetics.
Hating what you consider shit is indeed normal though.

>>145048500
>It's not, only hand-drawn animation is real animation
I'm done. This is high level incompetence. High lvl baiting
>Every show ever
Mechs that looks like power rangers or toys are so good. Especially in quality

>>145048521
>OVA

>>145046886
Literally who?

>>145048627
>I'm done
No, faggot, I am done watching this garbage CG shitfest, when will you and your beloved studios understand this?

You're basically saying that given the same circumstances you'd pick the CG version. Fuck you and people like you.

>>145048327
What do you exect?
Everyone replying something like "message received" to that dude?

>>145048500
>hand drawn animation is real animation
What about animation in vidya then? Are those not actual animations as well? Or are you the kind of autist who will literally shit on anything 3D related?

>>145049224
3D stuff should stay in video games.

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>>145040412
Great 3D > Shitty 2D

Great 2D > Shitty 3D

Shitty 3D = Shitty 2D

Great 3D = Great 2D

>>145040218
Megumi and Yamadera again, as with other Anime Expo shorts.

You should have recognized them yourself.

>>145049341
Yeah, sure
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehtUpMnrxc4
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WImOE0Pwk3M

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>>145049465
God no.
God no.

>>145049224
Yes, it's considered animation but it's still retarded. You just input some values in the program and it does it for you. That's not animation.

Also 3D animation is evil because it's cheaper and it's killing/killed 2D animation.
Do you guys even like animation?

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>>145049795
>You just input some values in the program and it does it for you
I hear digital drawings works like this too. Wacom tablets have special scripts for drawing. Fuck digital animation!

>>145049795
This. Art is valuable because of the effort that's put into it.

Honestly it's really if CG in action was more sparser with mecha than it constantly, then I wouldn't really care

>>145046129
>Terrible character designs
What's wrong with them?

>>145050265
Not enough shading.

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>>145041154
>But not everything is despair, as the tech will keep advancing and getting easier on the eyes as time goes on.

The problem here is that it's not any technological issue, anon.
We could do perfect-looking CGI for a long time but Japs lack big enough studios and artists to do so.
And so most of them just find the most detailed object in the show, pay some random guy to model it and then draw scenes around its not so great animation.

Chara is experienced with it and they have no problems neither in NGE Rebuilds, nor in any of their animations shorts like the linked Cassette Girl and in my honest opinion, even the Patlabor short.

Most anime studios, however, do not.

>pic related
>Left is full 3D, right is full 2D.

>10 minute short

Fuck and here I was thinking that Yoshiura was directing an actual reboot.

>>145038375
>Too much Gundam lately that I'm burned out on it.
>Get Macross and Patlabor instead.

Feels good man.

>>145051348
>they're both shit
Feels bad man.

>>145046439
You probably don't watch a lot of mecha anime. All mecha anime with hand drawn mechanical animation looked better than the CG ones.

>>145047752
>>145048538

>Gundam Unicorn looks fantastic though, and it uses a good amount of CGI mechs

The vast majority of cuts were hand drawn, and the CG stood out awfully every time.

Try again.

>>145048677
Yes, retard. Patlabor started out as a 7 episode OVA directed by Oshii. The movies, TV series and second OVA came after.

CGI is shit in motion. It sometimes looks less awful with rigid vehicles like planes or tanks but with mecha that have limbs and perform acrobatic actions it just looks like hot garbage.

>>145052183
>CGI is shit in motion.

>Implying CGI must look bad in motion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GggtV3O9298

It's just definitely not easily compatible with anime art styles in general and what they think of as an easy cost saving measure would actually -probably- cost even more to achieve the same effect.

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>>145052772
>posts a game

>>145052772
Guilty Gear literally uses some kind of new style wizard tech shit to look the way it does. Just saying "lol it's CGI" is practically an insult. Go dig around on their twitter since the development team explained the process.

>>145052966
>posts a game

A game is even harder because games have to not go apeshit if you go full monkey on the controller and also have to render it all in real-time.
Anime studios have all the time in the world to render them and full control of their movement.

>>145053041
>Guilty Gear literally uses some kind of new style wizard tech shit
They're not using any wizardry, they are just putting in the required effort to translate anime style into 3D by painstakingly posing each frame instead of lazily interpolating, animating at anime's frequency instead of 24 like any standard CGI would do,...
They are literally stepping back technologically and giving up a ton of the stuff that makes CGI lucrative in the first place, but the end result is still beautiful and re-usable for a long time.

>>145038375
The CG looks clean and dynamic, suiting the aesthetic Patlabor's technology and world have always had. But of course nostalgiafags would be buttmad regardless.

another OVA? TV series? or Movie?

It was funny when Gainax was split into two polar opposite group. The serious guys goes into Khara and the wacky one goes into Trigger.
I like Khara more.

>>145054159
It's a 10 minute short. Read the thread.

Here's the old one from IG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYA22ut9h6A
Full of Sakuga. I wonder if they can do that shit anymore.

>>145054375
>It's a 10 minute short
Yeah, I know about it from the last thread actually. But I just don't believe my eyes.

>>145038375
I'm not going to get my hopes up yet. I'm not sure I want a reboot.

>>145054612
Do you think 2D will become a lost art?

>>145055339
>Cost a lot of time & a lot of money
>New animator can't into realism; Only the Oldfag animator can
>Effort & Quality ≠ Success
>Mature & serious anime don't sell

>Do you think 2D will become a lost art?
Yes.

>>145055894
You only live long enough to see everything you love die.

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>>145055894
>>145056138

>>145053271
You have no idea what you'e talking about.

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posting best girl and best boy

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Is Birdy done by the same artist or something, always wondered what she was doing with Ingram's head here

>>145055894
>New animator can't into realism
What?

>>145056970
I can't believe I googled this for you but yes, the Patlabor manga is apparently really drawn by the same artist as Tetsuwan Birdy.

I've been putting off watching Patlabor for too long. Should I watch them in order or is there another recommended way?

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>>145057388
Interesting
I wish the manga was full translated and scanned

I hope it is not as boring as the previous shows.

>>145057569
OVA is litteraly "Police Academy" comedy.
TV is boring as fuck shit
Movies are masterpieces. Especially second one

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> no sticky

>>145057745
>Patlabor
>sticky

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>>145038375
>3d cg

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>>145057569
There's 3 timelines
The Mamoru Osshi timeline
Patlabor: Early Days (7 episodes) followed up by the movies Patlabor The Movie 1 and 2. There's also a third one but it shouldn't even be called a Patlabor movie, but it was still a decent watch.

Then there's the anime which is 47 episodes of cops doing cute things followed by Patlabor: The New Files.

The second one is lighter toned from Osshi's take on it but still good

And there's the manga. I don't know much about it though, other than it exists

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>>145048521
>>145057831
>Osshi

what was the last recent 2d mech show? no gundam for obvious reasons.

>>145057745
Dumb frogposter

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>>145040612
This. Fucking this.
I will still give it a shot tho

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Please don't suck

>>145058182
am I wrong? He directed early days and the movies

>>145058404
Iron Blooded Orphans
It sucked

Is Arakawa doing character design? the faces looked a little like her blackface style.

>>145060175
Fucking hell, i meant block face. Autocorrect sucks.

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>>145038375
I've been waiting for this.

>>145057606
I've uploaded the whole Italian scans on madokami. Get someone who knows Italian to translate it. Better than nothing.

>>145058404
Regalia.

>>145058404
>>145060158
Thunderbolt.
It was awesome.

>>145060113
You just spelled his name wrong.