>weebs will defend this fucking why? is goku a fucking girl?

>>>/v/

b-but the original is always better by virtue of it being the original

>>144967868
Arai when?

Can toonami faggots just fuck off forever? Nobody cares your childhood. Dub is never better.

>>144967868
cheap VA cost

>>144967957
Since when is a girl voice on a man better than a man voice on a man? Not to mention the man voice is in a language you can actually understand

>>144967868
>>>/co/

reminder that naruto is LITERALLY voiced by a grandma SJW looking fucker in america

>>144967868
that's not a girl anon, that's a fucking granny

>>144968027
Since Gon. That woman knows how to convey pure rage.

I really like her in the buu arc because of goku personality but super is horrible

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>burgers will defend this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KCk2cN7xyI

>>144967868
>There are people that will unironically defend a shitty unfitting soundtrack

>>144968039
My God how can they allow this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuyaGY5Za3w

>There are people that will defend this

>>144968199
>>Moans in Portugese

>>144968199
Latin was fucking nice.
Portugese sounds like that one video and common voice over of the guy screaming as he ejeculates

>>144968039
To be fair, he is voiced by a woman in the Japanese original too.

>>144967868
Toriyama himself said that he can't imagine anyone else as Goku.

>>144968199
>chinese
>brazilniggers

lmao

>>144968199
>that gay dance music in the latin version
holy kek

>>144968807
and every other version how the fuck did i miss it
proves the english version is superior

who cares goku is a fag and you shouldn't be giving a shit about dragonball at it's current state.

Why do Americans criticize weebs for preferring original voice acting?

It's not like American voice acting is any better. All of their teenaged characters are voiced by middle-aged chain-smoking Jewish-American women.

>>144967868
>It's another Granny Goku thread

On the other hand, nobody has said that Black sounds unfitting. Just goes to show that opinions on her acting are informed by your own preconceived ideas rather than her actual acting. She's good.

Americans and DB is a lost cause.


How many people defend the changed soundtrack?

How many even watched the original series?

>>144968807
That's the original and real OST

>>144968866

the english ost is the most disgusting shit ever made to a series. And the scripts changes are fucking ridiculous. At least the voice acting is decent.

>>144968925
>On the other hand, nobody has said that Black sounds unfitting.
All the naysayers of Goku's original VA do probably think Black sounds unfitting, but it's just that it's a redundant opinion.

They already don't like Goku's voice. Do they really need to be critical of a Goku clone's voice? I think their opinion carries over pretty well.

Next thing you're going to tell me is that they never criticized the voice acting for Bardock and Tullece/Turles/Taurus/whatever.

>>144969024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lGuDTRilKQ
better than gay dance music thats for sure

My biggest problem with Masako Nozawa voicing Goku is that she's old. She was already pretty old when she first started voicing Goku, and she's way old now. Who knows how much time she has left in this world?

When she dies, the Dragon Ball franchise will also finally die. I sincerely doubt they would ever try to replace Goku's VA, that would be borderline sacrilege.

When DB first started, they should've had someone younger voice Goku. Then that person would be middle-aged by now, rather than approaching death's door.

Goku is supposed to sound like what the Japs version of a Country Bumpkin sounds. Girls do better children than men. They don't change voice actors because muh honor. Its a pretty simple concept to get.

>>144969180
they shouldve had a male voice goku

Because he's a kid?

Nothing after Dragonball is canon anyway. America turning Goku into some Superman edgelord was the death of the series.

You scared me, OP. I thought Masao passed away.

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Legacy? Tradition? Nostalgia?

>>144969167

fuck off with your generic keyboard music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHm8SkeCdHY&index=113&list=PL6A89141FEA9318EE

Also, i have a question: the DBZ movies were released in the USA market? and if they were, they changed the OST there too to fit the USA version of the series? In Latinamerica all the movies were dubbed with the original OST.

>>144969399
the music in the english version is way more fitting although in the movies i remember they put some shitty rock music in

Every Shounen protag is voiced by a Woman

>People will defend Dragon Ball at all
wew lad

I feel like the opinion would be radically different if Goku kept the same voice actor in the English dub from beginning to end, instead of people jumping right in the middle of the Z era

>>144969456
>the music in the english version is way more fitting

No

>>144969456
What kind of series is dragon ball anon? What is one supposed to think/feel when one reads/watches it?

>>144969609
youre supposed to think "wow that goku guy sure is cool too bad he sounds like an 8 year boy with a dying old man stuck in his throat"

>>144969685
I see, and what is one supposed to thing when one watches the dub version with it's different music? Would you say that it's more true to the original source material?

>>144969482
Ichigo from Bleach, Rin from Ao no Exorcist, and Hinata from Haikyuu are all male voice actors.

Although it really takes someone who a huge range (Jun Fukuyama) or someone who naturally sounds boyish (Ayumu Murase), but those VAs are super rare.

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>watching dragon ball

you've already failed
dragon ball is meant to be READ
the ONLY animation worth watching is Path to Power and MAYBE Yo Son Goku and His Friends Return

Heh, lol, look at all the dubfags getting anally annihilated because someone likes the japanese voice. I love how they all bring up the same boring comments like "not manly enough." Don't worry, child, that fragile masculinity looks GREAT on you.

>>144969751
is it supposed to be better if its close to the original source material?

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>>144968199
>portugese
We did 20 takes and that was the best one.

>>144969868
Obviously

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm77VCkf_do

>>144969868
Dunno anon you tell me. You seem to be the expert here. What is this series about?

Personally, I think someone else should've played Bardock.
Just imagining him with the old Saiyajin Baba voice seems a bit off considering his backstory.
It'd be like if John Connor has the same voice he had as a kid. It just doesn't feel the same when it's with a more serious character.

>>144968027
Dubfag detected.

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>>144970015
I was hoping it's be this as soon as I hovered my cursor over the embed button.

>>144968468
to be completely fair, he's kinda dried up on imagination in his later years.

>>144970015
Will there ever be a dbz special better than Bardock – The Father of Goku?

>>144970178
History of Trunks

>>144970178

The first Broly fight was kind of nice.

>>144970198
I'll agree that their both the top 2 at least.

I say dbz has a habit of making past specials really good, but then again Dragon Ball: Episode of Bardock is a thing.

>>144967868
Because Sean Schemmel is absolute garbage as Goku

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>>144967868
It's hardly the first time. Remember that male Ranma was dubbed by Sarah Strange first.

Granny Goku is objectively bad. I will never in my life understand why people prefer it.

Then I remember I don't give a shit what retards prefer.

>>144967868
They're genwunners: dragon Ball edition

Ignore these deviants

>>144967868
Because Goku started out a little boy, and his voice was so iconic they kept it since he was still innocent at heart after growing up.

Just a reminder that complaining about "Granny Goku" is an old meme that started out on Gaia Online. If you are propagating it in the current year, you are literally a legacy-gaiafag. Nobody has a good reason to dislike Nozawa.

>>144970310
An OVA that's only available in America as a bundle with Dragon Ball Kinect is never worth searching for.

>>144970441
I think people know that. Doesn't mean you have to keep pretending it's good.

Hollywood does that shit all the time where they bring back iconic actors to act or cameo in their old roles and it always ends up being retarded.

>If you are propagating it in the current year, you are literally a legacy-gaiafag
Keep your tribal bullshit on /v/.

>>144970508
>Keep your tribal bullshit on /v/.
Fuck /v/. /vg/ keeps spilling out over there and you can't have a decent Xenoverse thread without that 1 guy posting his donut steels over and over and a bunch of fuckheads who want to discuss the mobile game nobody but the 5 of them play. And Super.

>>144968123
Nips have the right idea about having ladies voicing young boys. The advantage is that their voices don't change over time anymore (unless the VA gets sick or super old).

The advantages are flipped around when you have a big timeskip and you have an adult character that sounds like a 10 year old boy / lady.

Gon's VO is good but wouldn't suit an adult Gon.

>>144970015
I just realized hat the voice is reading out power levels. Boy, I'm retarded.

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>>144970547
It's always been a pretty useful practice, especially if the characters return several years later. Problem is that if your character grows slowly, you don't have any real opportunities to change voices.

Chiaotzu is 40 years old. He still looks and sounds like he did back in the 22nd Budokai.

>>144970677
well at least he's still a midget, so he kinda fits keeping the same voice.

>>144967957
>i cant tell if the sub is better
FTFY

Legitimate issues to do with Nozawa:
>Dragonball will die with her.
>She sounds noticably old and it's really jarring with Goten.
>KKKKKKKKKKKK sounds awful. What ADR thought this was a good idea in the 1990s?

As long as it is japanese, it is perfect. King Kai reading his lines with no emotion or shifts in tone even when the animation shows him yelling? Fucking perfect.

>>144971042
King Kai's VA sounded bad because he was very sick.

>>144971100
Doesn't make his voice acting any better nor does it excuse even using him for this role again.

>>144971042
>>144971169

Respect for the VA


That's why.

>>144971027
>>Dragonball will die with her.
Is this supposed to be an issue? Look at the state of the franchise, nigger, it should have been left alone decades ago.

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>>144968027
>funi dub
>not terrible in every way

I hated Nozawa when I discovered Jap DBZ during my teen years but I can't imagine anyone else as Goku now. The voice fits him so well and she's such a talented voice actress. Her SSJ Goku voice is honestly chilling in my opinion and creates an amazing contrast between normal Goku. Her performance as Black is great too.

>>144971635
actually black is the reason I don't think it's the voice actors fault for goku's voice, just the way she does it. She had a wide enough range to account for him growing older.

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>>144971560
The Dragon Ball franchise should've ended when Goku got married, anyone who disagrees is retarded.

>>144971767
I would like to say cell saga.

Now imagine that granny VA screaming her lungs out during Goku's SSJ3 transformation. How is your reaction?

>>144969227
So what you're saying is that everything until the end of what Amerifats know as Z is canon.
Which is true.

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>weebs will defend this
fucking why? is luffy a fucking granny?

>>144968199
Its a shame that they changed the music in the english one. But they did make it up for it by having a god tier ssj 3 transformation

>>144971864
She didn't have to yell that much, you can barely hear her in that scene.

Better or worse, Schemmel's lungs/larynx should be taken into protective custody.

It doesn't matter that he's voiced by a woman, voices can be masked or altered to fit characters. >>144971977 Luffy is an example where it works fine.


It's the fact that it's just a plain old woman's voice and nothing else. It's just out there and she doesn't even try to sound different. I saw some of Super which was the first Dragonn Ball I've watched in I don't know how long and it just left me in disbelief. You have all these characaters with more or less appropriate voices and then big, muscular Goku sounds completely and utterly like an old woman.

>>144971977

she's a great actor. Really enjoy all of her roles and character songs

>>144969227
DBZ manga finished before the English dubbed anime even came out, you can't blame Z on Americans.

>>144967957
Baccano and Black Lagoon's dubs are better.

>>144972128
Imagine it if instead of a beefcake that sounded like an old lady it were a moeblob with the voice of a masculine older man.

>>144971817

this. Goku dying and letting Gohan becoming the new guardian of the world was a great concept.

>>144971767
I'd be fine with that or frieza

>>144971817
Fucking this, Buu and everything after was excess.

>>144968199
>that robotic whatever-it-is music for the eng dub

I can understand being a little kid and liking it, but how can any adult on 4chan seriously claim that's good?

I remember enjoying the dub years and years ago so I rewatched a bit of Black Lagoon with the dub recently to see how it was.

It's really a mixed bag. Some of the voices are strong like Revy but then you have Rock who's awful which is a serious problem since he has a starring role.

>>144972487

>>144972283

>>144968199
I laughed at the Portuguese one.

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>>144971864
>Imagine

Nigga that scene is there in Japanese to watch and see for yourself. Imagine, he says...

>>144968199
portugal what the fuck

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>>144968199
Italian best one

>>144968280
>>144968307
>>144969929
>>144972560
>>144972613
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnaEQXJ3Q5g

>>144967868
I actually don't mind the fact that she does Goku and Black Goku's voice. I've gotten used to hearing it, and it kinda clicks with me now as much as Schemmel's Goku.

That being said, her also doing the exact same voice for Gohan is really weird and offputting.

>Japanese grandma > American Chad
Fat overlords btfo

>>144970108
Since when this image became a thing?

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>>144972676
>Krillin saying Trenks

I don't know why that made me laugh

>>144972676
>vegeta's talking voice
jesus

>>144972699

he talks a goofball. I like the original voice but the English one isn't so bad. Better than Piccolo / Vegeta

>>144972651
Fuck off meatball lover

>>144972481
Apart from a couple of exceptions the music in the DBZ dub is trash.

>>144973577
To be fair most people defending it are doing so on those notable exceptions alone.

It might seem weird pulling in a fandub, but TFS Goku's voice is probably the best one out there. It's the voice of a grown man, but it has that childish innocence to it that fits Goku's character so well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyN7rPbHybk

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>>144973781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcPro8d8f70

>>144973885
Holy shit that was the worst casting for Ocean Dub Goku.

>>144967920
This. It's sad how Ghost Stories got mutilated by that shitty excuse of a """""dub""""".

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om9zSLd1Iis

italian is still the best

ok i'll stop

>>144973885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPIJLU1DkiI#t=4m45s

>>144972595
No as in you are looking at the VA, not the scene. Her expression and all, must be silly for a granny to be screaming that much.

>>144974011
I've never found dbz abridged funny...and yet there are people who shit on the pilaf gang everyday...

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>you will never fuck Satoshi's VA

>>trying to convince sub purists
i know, it's impossible. what really kills me is how shitty some subs and even the original VA is. For example, Stien's;Gate simply doesn't translate into English, it's half Japanese meme speak. So these purists watch subs of a show (stien's;gate for example) which has dialogue which simply can't be translated coherently into English. So they're already watching something that's been localized (yep, the purists hate localization as well for some reason, as if half of the shit said in most anime could translate word for word into English anyway)

I'm using stien's;gate for my example for one big reason. The English dub got a god tier cast, and a MASSIVE rewriting to make it coherent to an English audience. It is a fucking masterpiece on the level of the Japanese version. It's different enough it's worth a watch. Personally i found the English dub version was just as well voice acted and better done overall then the Japanese version, and if you relied on the subs for the Japanese version there was ZERO reason to not think the dub version wasn't superior. (yes, i know the VA for Okabe had a different take on the character, going for more of a snob angle, but i think it worked better with the rework of the script, then it would have been had they gone for a more "zanny" character like the Japanese VA went with, personally i think it made Okabe a lot better).

Of course the sub nazis will never admit any of this. Of course i don't need to listen to them because i am fluent in japanese, so i know how bad 95% of subs are (the subs for stein's;gate were tragic). Heck, bakemonogatari didn't even get a good, coherent sub until 6 or 8 months after the show finished airing, when one of the groups subbed the blueray. And anyone who's remotely objective would admit the English cast for FMA was better then the Japanese cast.

>>144974092
To be fair the season 1 writing is pretty shit. They had no idea what they were really going for with the series until a few episodes into season 2.

>>144974138
sometimes overseas dubs are better
this is not simply the case of DB

>>144974139
It's a shame DBZ abridged starts out so crap, because the production quality improves a lot over time. I enjoyed their android saga better than the original.

>>144974363
Oddly enough DBZA doesn't need to be a funny show, it works as just a fun show.

>>144973978
>Joan Sanz

Amazing.

>>144974011
>kaioken
>noooo
>tiiiiiimes
>nonono
>FOUR
>nononononoFUUUUUUUUUU

kek, they were so much funnier then
I guess the androids and cell didn't give them a lot to work with

>>144974515
They had a few alright jokes in season 1 but in general their writing was pretty weak until season 2.

Season 3&4 are fine. They have plenty of funny jokes each episode.

>Be sure to check the news.
>...
>What channel!?

>>144974665
that 16 line and cell's trunks impersonation were literally the only times I even smirked during that episode

>>144974722
>It's infuriating
>Why, because the gap keeps widening?
>Because he could've A: Killed Android 18, B: Killed Cell, or C: Killed Vegeta!
>Why Vegeta?
>Because I deserve something today.

>>144974515
Which is weird. Cell saga is so retarded it should be a joke-making machine

>>144974802
In some ways it has been, though they've been spending a lot of their effort fixing certain things with the Cell saga instead of just pointing and laughing at them.

>>144973781
Honestly it says a lot for how shoddy the dub is when nearly every single one of the voices for DBZ Abridged are better then the dub versions by leaps and bounds.

>>144974011
>>144974092
>>144974139
>>144974363
>>144974417
Is it weird that in a lot of ways I think DBZ abridged does the characters and certain arcs better then the actual series? I think their version of Frieza is literally perfect, same with Vegeta.

>>144974775
tien is ok
but
>nothing, just an aneurysm out of sheer stupidity
>wow, didn't think you were that stupid vegeta
or
>NOOO, my space pod
>AHH my space armor
>WE GET IT YOU'RE FROM SPACE

moments like these got me to actually laugh out loud

>>144969227

> Superman edgelord
> Superman
> edgelord

Anon.