Hating on either of these two protagonists means you have no

>re:zero and eva int he same thread

You're just asking for trouble aren't you

>>144901617
Shinji actually has believable reasons for being an annoying faggot. All you retards can come up with in defense of Toyota is "Y-YOU'D ACT THE SAME WAY IN HIS SITUATION" and "HE'S INSANE YOU JUST DON'T GET IT".

>>144901766
Shinji and Subaru are both characters which exists as statements of human frailty, rather than cogs of plot progression, so it's only natural.

>>144901617
>throwing re:zero and eva in the same shithole
Let the shitposting begin.

>>144901831
Toyota is a fucking NEET who's currently battling with his flaw of sloth. All his actions in the context of the story are just symbolic of a dude who's slowly solving the internal crisis of how to stop being a loser NEET in his mind.

All the things he does at face-value in the series appear crazier as the story progresses only because it's reaching the point where his realistic battle has become a larger focal point than the artificial structure of a story.

>>144902070
>>144901766
Good shows do tend to create the most controversy.

>>144902416
>trying to not be a neet
>hard
At least shinji had the fate of the world on his hands

>>144901617
One actually changes throughout the story, showing that everything that happens to him has affected him in some way or another.

The other remains an idiot because without his idiocy the show would lose it's gimmick.

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>>144901617

>Shinji
You're Under Arrest has Shinji a year before Eva came out.

>>144901617
One of those barely grow as a character and just do the same redundant shit for the show to be edgy. The other is actually a good character. I'm sure /a/ has enough brain cells to be objective here.

>>144901617
Shinji is shit

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>people actually like Shinji

>>144901617
Subaru is acting nowhere near believably human. If anything his lack of awareness and ability to understand others, plus his hero complex thinking the world is entirely dependent on him and other's just simply have to tag along (thinking about the times where he's tried to force people into things without properly explaining expecting them to just comply), genuinely makes me think he's an actual autist. That combined with his inability to change.
Honestly if this is a show about how someone on the spectrum would actually manage in a mmorpg setting, I'd respect it a hell of a lot more than I do now. Genuinely one of the worst things I've seen in years.

>>144901617
Those two faces have completely different meanings.
One is stroking their own pride and ego and the other is having their entire ego shattered.

>>144901831
Toyota actually has believable reasons for being an annoying faggot. All you retards can come up with in defense of Shinji is "Y-YOU'D ACT THE SAME WAY IN HIS SITUATION" and "HE'S INSANE YOU JUST DON'T GET IT".

>>144901617
Subaru's reason of insanity was legit. Shinji was just being a cunt

>>144903167
But no one uses those excuses to shit on Shinji. He gets shit on because he wont pilot the robot, wont smash the pussy and he cries more than he should.

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>>144902666
who are we talking about here?

>>144901766
I rewatched EVA weeks ago and it was nothing special without the nostalgia. Re: Zero is at least a good anime, with less pretentiousness and more character development.

>>144902945
>>144902945
>>144902945
>>144902945
THIS

>>144903350
Hehe hoho haha you sure are funny

>>144903441
What was your main takeaway from EVA?

>>144903264
For the last fucking time, Subaru was never insane. He was faking it. Betelguese straight up pointed this fact out, it wasn't even the first time Subaru was faking his behavior to garner sympathy. He starting acting deliberately pathetic around Rem and Emilia in the 2nd arc and feigning the personality of somebody who was working too hard.

Go check out the scene where he supposedly vomits in the sink. The anime intentionally never shows any splatter or existence of vomit what so ever because he didn't actually do it and just WANTED Emilia to comfort him.

>>144903167
Noone says that about Shinji, on the other hand those are the exact same excuses people use with Subaru

>>144903441
You have shit taste. Eva qualifies as "good" on a technical level alone.

>>144901617
Don't compare Eva to some shit like re:zero you fucking newfag.

>>144903620
Shinji has every girl (And one guy) in the show lusting over his dick, and rejects all of their advances.

Subaru has only one girl that is obsessed with him, and he only ignore it because he has tunnel vision for a different girl.

>>144901617
Never seen Re:Zero, probably never will, seems like one of those cheap thriller anime where bad shit keeps happening and you're supposed to enjoy it because bad stuff happens and that's it, but I'm known to be wrong.

Anyway real talk, Shinji gets a whole lot of shit and most of it isn't his fault. He's a bit of a pussy and doesn't stand up for himself, but he's an emotionally fragile kid in the worst hormonal point in his life being manipulated by a bunch of asshole, alcoholic, or depraved adults with suspicious motives at best.

>>144904025
What point are you trying to make here?

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>>144901617

I hate self inserting and Subaru is still just enraging with his stupidity.

>>144904025
>lusting over his dicks
This literally doesn't happen. Only reason people think like this is because of the shitty harem trope which Evangelion /did/ help popularize, but didn't make use of itself. I bet you think Shinji should've just gotten into the damn robot too, right?

>>144904009
Why? Stop trying too hard to fit in you fucking memer and actually give a reason why Shinji and Subaru don't both accurately fit the build of characters whom are enormously misunderstood in terms of the abstract purposes they serve in their respective shows.

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>>144901617

If Subaru was really Emilia's servant he should suicide after the shame he inflicted on his master.

How the fuck could anyone defend him after those episodes is beyond me.

>>144901617
>Subaru didn't bring his Walkman with him
>can't lie in bed crying with music

>>144904182
There are countless reasons in this thread alone.

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>>144901617
Negro please, Shinji only needed to die once to realize he fucked up

>>144904123
Subaru isn't stupid, he's lazy. He's smart enough to literally trick the audience at times with what he's actually thinking. You'd know that if you understood anything about what's actually going on in Re:Zero.

>>144903562
Are you somewhat stupid? The only thing he was still sane in the earlier episodes was because he was using all the dumbasses from the Manor to retain his sanity by saving them from being killed

>>144904232
Name one.

Eva is fuking boring. too much inner talking, like wayyyy to much it's almost like they dont know how to tell a story with picture

at least Re:zero is "fun" to watch

>>144904245
It always bothered me how tomino never made her relevant again.
then again, I guess it was for the best.

>>144904392
Every. Single. Post. In this thread.

>>144904435
>I haven't watched Eva

>>144903441
>Eva
Avant-garde masterpiece artwork, predecessor to the superflat movement, socioeconomic commentary on the lost decade

>Re: Zero
Edge shit for manchildren with no cinematic sensibility

At this point, there’s no excuse for you having not picked up on the fact that Re:Zero is actually a symbolic story about somebody overcoming various flaws in the real world.

Betelguese is Sloth, the sin responsible for why Subaru is a NEET and why he waivers between confidence and complete uselessness throughout the story.

Act 1 intentionally made it look as though Subaru was a predictable anime protagonist creating the illusion of a story. He aced through it viewing his situation the same way you would want to view yourself in a similar situation.

Act 2 deconstructs the idea of a NEET acting optimally in a challenging situation. Subaru is criticized for being unambitious by other characters, and his request a change from being employed to being a permanent guest cause he was tired of working. Subaru struggles with whether he wants to live an easy NEET life, or a life where he has friends. He decides that his life would be better with friends, but after working for a couple days, he starts acting deliberately pathetic in front of Rem and Emilia to garner sympathy from them, and Emilia lets him take the day off after he cries in her lap.

Act 3 Subaru habitually uses Emilia and Rem to get out of doing work. His outbursts around Emilia, and continual breaking of promises were him getting Emilia to clean up his mess. Emilia finally gets fed up with it. He feigns insanity because Rem still enables his antics, but Betelguese shows the consequences of his destructive habits. In a last-ditch effort, he tries getting the other candidates to fall for his pathetic charade, but they all see through him, and he faces Emilia alone and begins a conversation that is really him talking to himself. He invokes the curse as a sign that he’s both willing to take the burden, and that there are no easy routes in life.

He can then start to see the Betelguese's invisible hands because he’s finally aware of his own Slothful behavior.

>>144901617
This. I can only see these character destroy themselves while I eat popcorn and enjoy the show.

As much as I hate both of these, Eva had some of the most spectacular animation, direction and voice acting I've seen.

>He fell for the eva is deep meme
>He fell for the Why isn't any recent anime as good as the 90s meme.
>He actually enjoys watching shinji being a literal gay for kaworu.

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NGE was a character study with mecha stuff as a backdrop.

Re:Zero seems a lot more grounded in it's fantasy story.

>>144904507
Exactly what I thought, you have no argument.

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I should rewatch Eva.

>>144904832
You should kill yourself.

>>144904507
>I can't make a proper arguement so just look at the other posts in the thread

Wow, now you're just shitposting.

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They're still both wish fulfillment though, I don't see your argument

Probably cuz you're an idiot and don't have one lol

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>>144904584
>>144902666
>>144902945
>>144903149

>>144901617
Relatable:
Shinji is a kid thrust into a dangerous situation via emotional blackmail. He's scared but also conflicted because he wants to help. He also hates that fact he's a pussy as much as you do.

Not relatable:
Toyota is a hikki who acts confident (never shuts up) to please people. I guess it works because every likes him for some reason. He and puck both have a shit sense of humor. He cries when people die. He cares about everyone for some reason.

>>144904716
So its an another anti NEET tv drama

Sasuga Japon

>>144902666
Re:Zero isn't even close to being finished yet in terms of the original source material and EVA had 2 cours and a movie and Shinji was still being the same pussy as he was in the beginning most of the time

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>>144904856
Naw, I think I'll live and love my universe until my score has hit the point where I want to roll it back and introduce my expansion pack consisting of like 100x the current content in all existing areas of the game as well as at the very least 700 different sets of mechanical systems as of yet going to remain confidential

>>144904980
He wasn't a hikki. He was just a truant. Everybody thinks he's pathetic. He doesn't care about anyone. If he cared about Rem, he would have killed himself when she got erased.

>>144904980
Apparently he is not scared of jacking off to men and loving another man. Literally a faggot.

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>>144905037
>Shinji was still being the same pussy as he was in the beginning most of the time

>>144904812
>>144904857
There's not much more to be said that hasn't been already. What's the similarity between a broken down boy unable to trust in himself and those around him and an egomaniac lunatic that seem to think the world he lives in is simply his playground and others should just follow suit? There's 0 similarities. Zero. Nada. Zilch. If anything they're polar opposites.

>>144903441
> Re zero's better
These people exist

>>144903562
For the last fucking time, Subaru was never insane. He was faking it.

No, he wasnt. Beatlegeuse is just so crazy, that he didn't think Subaru's level of crazy is actually crazy at all. That's why Beatlegeuse called him out.

>Go check out the scene where he supposedly vomits in the sink. The anime intentionally never shows any splatter or existence of vomit what so ever because he didn't actually do it and just WANTED Emilia to comfort him.
>They didn't show it, so it obviously didn't happen!

What the fuck kind of logic is this? Go check the manga; they make more explicit reference to his throwing up.

>>144901617
To be honest all I hear of Shinji is a desesperate virgin wanting some affection from his husbando because he is too shy to pound a girl, he lives the end of the world, tells everyone to fuck off and decide what the fuck they want to make with their lives.
Subaru is a japanese NEET that thinks of himself as trash, that's why when he ends in another world he is so desesperate to be praised and treated as a hero, the difference with Subaru is that to fix the mess he is in he is forced to face all of his flaws and change. For that Subaru is better for me.

>>144901617
>Eva
Created by the Phil Fish of anime, who thinks his pretentious story is SOOO much more better then anything else, also think symbolism is what makes a good story

>ReZero
Created by some guy who made something actually pretty enjoyable without being a humongous asshole/faggot and knew not every bit of his story needed symbolism about how humanity is shit.

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>>144905037
Subaru is a negative Nancy
I laughed my ass off when he looked at that trained as fuck brigade of knights and declared that it was their heritage that made them

Whoever wrote Subaru is a fucking stooge and a talentless trashcan

>>144905168
>hello I'm from /v/

>>144904980
wew lad why do you have to bring a puck in to this?

>>144905195
>Hello I am from reddit

地図を渡してやったのに無視して迷った奴など知るか！

>>144905258
what did he mean by this

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>tfw a brand new generation of people who don't understand NGE was born

>>144905128
It is stupid to compare them at this point. And falling for the bait is even more retarded. Like you.
>>144905175
Whoever wrote your sentences is a talentless stooge.

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>>144901617
>Trying to justify both of shitty characters.

>>144902666
If Subaru decided to use his brain it would devolve into SAO and Aldnoah Zero and become a new testament to isekai being abominations. If he stays retarded it'll be Erased but slightly less shit.

Sounds like an inescapable trap

>>144905298
Is gay boy your date for tonight? The gay bar's down 2 blocks, son.

>>144901617
I unironically like both protagonists. I was really disapointed when I watched Eva and shinji was believably hesitant, but he still got in the robot when push came to shove. From all of the shit he gets I expected him to put on a dress and start trying to fuck his way out of the robot.

>>144904980
NEET =/= Hiki

You also forgot Shinji being a massive faggot for Kaworu

>>144905098
>2 qts and a cake with him the entire show
>even gets to kiss Asuka
>doesn't do anything
>some fag turns up and says he loves him
>falls in love

Shinji a shit

>>144905347
That's what happens when you make a story with terrible characters.
That said your analogy makes little sense.

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>>144905114
But it is my playground
I genuinely codes it from scratch and created you
Not for you to be my plaything, of course, but to observe
I didn't like how it was getting raped by "black" entities so I intervened and changed the game up
Anyone who wants on my train wants it of their own free will
Yes, both free will and predestination exist
Compatablism exists, and both mechanics aren't even comparable in philosophical scope.
I'm the author, and nothing can change that. I am your overlord, and I'm not a tyrant so get used to it because things are going to get a lot better around here.

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>>144905037
>Shinji was still being the same pussy as he was in the beginning most of the time

>>144905406
>>144905156
>>144905098

Shit son, if you go any deeper in the closet you will find yourslf in Narnia

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> This thread.
Why do people even get triggered by it? You fucking idiots are not showing yourselves to be more intelligent than OP if you get reeled in by his bait. All of you are retarded. Both the EVA and Re:Zero fans.

>>144905414
I'm saying Re:zero can only be slightly above mediocre (Erased) or another pariah like Sword Art Online, Terror in Resonance, and Aldnoah Zero

>>144905347
If Shinji used his brain and wasn't a pussy then it would be Gargantia

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>people think Eva is deep
>its literally just a poorly budgeted harem with a whiny bitch protaganist and religious symbols literally put in for no reason other to look cool

>>144905512
To be fair, this bait is actually pretty good.

>>144905512
Nah, I just take every chance I get to troll eva fags. The way they take the bait and get so defensive every single time is hilarious.

>>144903562
>>144904348
>>144905143
He was IN SHOCK, not insane. That's a defensive mechanism due to extreme stress. It takes a trigger to get the person out of the shock, that's why Subaru responded after he watched Rem being torture.

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>>144905557
>>144905557
Of course it is, I'm the best artisan around

>>144904459
If I recall correctly, it was more of a conflict with her seiyuu.

>>144902649
>The Witch of Greed using you for some as of yet unknown purpose and in a few loops even escaping
>not having the fate of the world in your hands

>>144905414
>>144905347
Both of you make no sense whatsoever. Subaru is blinded by his own pride more than half the time. He is stupid but he uses his head, as long as he's not trying to "be right".

Shinji has genuine issues and psychological trauma

Mitsubishi is just a retard

>>144905512
I'm just here for funposting

>>144905512
I'm just here reading this hilarious thread it's funny how ignorant re zero fags are. It's like they just watch some parts of eva and believe that they know everything about it.

>re:zero
>anything other than walmart SAO for fedora tippers and furries

heh

>>144904980
>He cares about everyone

Not even remotely true. He really gives 0 shits about anyone except Emilia and Rem right now. He pretty much tries to place all his burdens and frustrations on the other queen candidates and poor Otto, but the candidates were wise to his shit.

>>144905618
Regardless of whether he is in shock or insane, he wasn't faking anything, like the original anon insinuated.

>>144905684
>Shinji has genuine issues and psychological trauma

And Subaru has genuine depression and an actual complex that makes him think he's some special little flower.

>>144905707
>Implying there is anything deep about eva
>Implying it's not immediately obvious its all bullshit

>>144905168
You realize Re:Zero is chucked full of symbolism right?

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>>144905707
It's just hilarious how you're laughing at them, considering you are on the same level by responding, hypocrite.
>>144905618
>>144905809
He fucking faked his bullshit. He was an attention whore. Spfag confirmed it.

shinji was pathetic but realistic

subaru is just retarded beyond belief, no one would act like this, not even the dumbest otaku

>>144905684
>Shinji has genuine issues
>A weak willed faggot forced to save the world by incompetent and crazy adults.
He is shit, same with everyone else, that's his issue.

>>144905727
If anything eva is for fedora tippers as they think they're intellectual for watching it.

>>144905824
>depression
>being a special snowflake
Pick one

>>144905824
Does this complex prevent you from saying "the witch cult is going to attack the village"?

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Fun fact, Emilia becomes the witch queen and Subaru is forced to try and find a way to kill her or find a way to save her

He saves her and there will be a happy ending with all waifus still alive

Ruined the ending for you demonic fags with shit taste in protags

Cheesing on you fools is hilariously fun. It ends up as both a good plot device and selling point.

>>144905902
Because no one has as much pride/self-esteem issues as Subaru. He's a retard when he doesn't bother to clear his head of pride.

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>>144905037
>Shinji was still being the same pussy as he was in the beginning most of the time

>>144905944
Does, "being emotional and blinded by the past about yourself" prevent you from understanding?

>>144905878
If he faked it then he is an amazing as fuck actor. Not even real actors get that level down with out years of experience and the director fucking with them (Kubric).

Staring straight ahead while some licks your eyes is pretty good acting. Subaru should quit with the bullshit and pursue acting he'd get a oscar.

>>144905878
>He fucking faked his bullshit.
You can say he went into shock because he was a little pussy that just wanted to give up. There is a big difference between insanity and shock.

>>144905944
Okay suppose he did say that. What next smart ass? What did you think would happen next?

>>144905902
How would you know if you've never met all NEETs in the world?

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>>144905878
Or maybe Hypocrisy is a powerful psychological device for steering retarded and evil lemmings off a cliff

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>>144906051
>>144905466
>>144905111
Are you all retards? How many bait images do I have to get others to realize how retarded the EVA-fags are being for replying?

>>144905928
He has depression because he wants to be to be praised. That's why he tries too hard to be a special snowflake.

>>144905878
[citation needed]

>be isekai
>99% characters sexless eunuchs
>people die
>politics

DECONSTRUCTION

>>144906172
>Hurr durr it was just a bait the whole time and I was acting retarded all along

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>>144901617
I will always stand by the fact that Shinji is a fucking faggot
>gets to pilot a cool gaint robot
>b-but he is risking his life!
Yea right, just let every human on earth die because you are to big of a pussy to essentially get super powers
>daddy issuse
>get's to live with a hot older sister type and a hot as (tho unstable) girl his own age
Nothing to complain about either
>whines like a bitch becuase everthing isn't going his way all the time or doesn't give him enough attention
>even when people try to help him and give him some props he just sits in the cornor of the room and shulcks like a faggot

Literally none of the choices shinji makes are hard and every other person with a little drive in life could have done better then him

The whole point of his character is to be an unlikeable failure

>>144906078
>>144906092
Actually yeah, he was trying really hard to fake to where he missed details of that loop which he regrets.
>>144906235
I am not the one you have been replying to. Why are you retards replying to that bait?

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Subaru and Shinji are miracles of the universe. I love and cherish both of them.

Nothing worse than every irrational character in the history of anime being defended with:
>he's depressed
>he's shocked
>he's a child
>he's a teenager
>he just saw X die

Every time we have some crossboarder-magnet show with retarded protagonists, these excuses come up.
Having an unlikeable little bitch as a main character only works if it's somewhat believable, and if he actually receives some development along the way.

>write a bad character
>defend it by saying it's intentional

>>144906297
I am not the one you have been replying to. Why are you retards replying to that bait?
-->>>144906172
>How many bait images do I have to get
>bait do I have to get
>do I
>I

>>144906297
If we assumed that every retarded post was bait, no one would reply to you.

> Eva
> Anno takes every gimmick from Toku and 80s mecha that he likes and makes it into one show
> it's shit it can't get ratings or sell toys so it gets its budget slashed three times and Anno loses hope of ever making a good show
> in 1998 fans suddenly call it the greatest masterpiece ever made because they made an edgy movie even though the edgy movie is just a rip off of 80s edgy mecha movies

> Re:Zero
> author contributes yet another travels to another world story with a stupid gimmick revolving around a neet
> anime is so crippled by shit taste because of the descent caused by Eva becoming popular in 1998 that it doesn't immediately flop
> we're stuck with retarded threads like this

>>144906326
He is receiving development. Everyone on /a/ is a spaz and demands immediate compartmentalized gratification. They can't handle slower pacing.

>>144906326
I know, fuck Eva, at least ReZero has character development.

>>144901617
Shinji is a good and realistic character.

Subaru is autistic faggot, they made him with a solely purpose : fulfillment for people like him.

>>144906461
>edgy
What.

>>144906522
How so?

>>144901831
Suzuki's backstory hasn't even been grazed at in the anime. Hell, even the annoying blue haired oni's got considered more than his. It's kind of obvious he would not be understood properly.

>>144906362
>a bad character
You have a shitty definition of what makes a character bad.
Subaru is an attention whore that gave up on his world because he thinks he doesn't have any chances there. He has to face his flaws and change his aptitude towards the world he is in. It helps that he doesn't gain any shitty OP powerup.
Shinji is the same weak pussy till the very end.

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>>144906199
Betelgeuse is always right. Stop overthinking.
>>144906362
> It's intentional
The anime clearly stated Subaru to not be intelligent and pathetic. Even alot of pointed it out.
>>144906413
I'm talking about this bait >>144905037. Bait images and bait are not the same, retard. It is pointing out certain bait, not being the bait.

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>>144906292
Not all humans are going to die
Just the shitty ones
All the demons, aliens, and monsters specifically designed to be the real beta bitchniggas too (your stats are way higher and have much better potential for growth if you have a beneficent nature. Let's be honest, every story needs villains and I didn't wanna do it)

>>144906292
they're both meant to be disliked
the only reason you could possibly like them is if you're such an unlikeable retarded schmuck that you can actually relate to them

>>144906292
>Yea right, just let every human on earth die because you are to big of a pussy to essentially get super powers
How would you react if someone asked you to save the world? If you fuck up the entirety of the human race will be wiped out and you're to blame. You'd have to carry that weight for the entirety of your life, except the probability of you surviving are very slim since the entire world hangs on a little boy who wouldn't trust in his ability to tie his shoes, much less control a giant robot he'd never seen before. I assure you being asked to be held accountable for the entire human race's survival would cause a similar reaction in most people.

>>144906461
So Eva is the root cause of shitposting?

>>144906461
Eva made goddamn bucketloads of money. You have no clue what you're talking about.

>>144906522
pretty much this

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>>144906461
>it's shit it can't get ratings or sell toys so it gets its budget slashed three times
>I don't know what am talking about

Protip: Eva didn't have budget issues, it had scheduling issues to the point where Gainax was taking in fan volunteers to help them finish episodes

>>144901617
I'm happy waiting in the comfy house with rem and not ruining the selection, pisses me off when the self insert is completely stupid.

>>144906609
Well, it was the the leading cause of waifuing and waifus today.

>>144906292
You do understand that everything that happens to the Eva the pilot feels like it happened to them?

The broken limbs, the disembowelment etc.

>>144906493
We're almost at episode 18 out of 25.

'Slower pacing' does not mean that you save character development for the last episode.

>>144906601
if he dies the world goes on, your whole logic on the matter is therefore shite

>>144906612
>>144906654
Pro-tip: Eva failed in 1995. It didn't make bank until 1997/98 after End of Eva came out. The budget cuts are well known and documented.

Fucking Nadesico of all things was huge as fuck until End of Eva.

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nice try guys, but Shirogane Takeru is the captain of being cool and composed

>>144906292
I'm still waiting for a fanfiction that manages to make Shinji not act like an unlikable faggot without making his spine out of fucking steel.

>>144906735
But his name does not. He'd forever be remembered as the man who doomed humanity. Not exactly how you'd want to go down, is it?

>>144906735
disregard this post, thought you were talking about Subaru

>>144906730
According to the NLfags, he is getting his character development this episode.

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>>144906761
>Pro-tip: Eva failed in 1995. It didn't make bank until 1997/98 after End of Eva came out. The budget cuts are well known and documented.
>a show that failed got a high budget movie release of it's finale

Consider suicide please

>>144906730
1st arc was to paint a picture on how bad the world Subaru got to is, 2nd arc was Rems character development arc, 3rd arc is focusing on Subaru now, what the fuck do you want?!

>>144906842
Nobody is saying he has to like it
But he could AT THE VERY LEAST pretend like he cares about what is going on

>>144906894
>what the fuck do you want?!
>!
I want you to leave the board.

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>>144906653
>>144906522
Why do I even bother?
>>144906730
> Last Episode
Fucking secondaries.

>>144906761
No, the first release of Eva still has the best selling first release of all time (unless Osomatsu passed it).

>>144906730
>save character development for the last episode.
Oh I see you just have shit comprehension skills.

>Eps 15: OH FUCK, I FUCKED UP I CAN'T DO IT ALONE
>Eps 16: Why the fuck is no one listening to ME THEY'RE FUCKIN ASSHOLES
>Eps 17: OH SHIT... maybe... I'm... the asshole
>Eps 18: oh god... I'm just a pathetic loser

Its called a build up. Its more satisfying when you edge for awhile before blowing your load.

>>144906730
>Episode 18 out of 25
Arc 3 started on Episode 11, which is where Subaru's development starts so 7 episodes isn't that long of a time, not to mention there's Arc 4,5,6 in the WN.

>>144906969
>secondaries
Are people claiming "primary" superiority for reading isekai LNs now?
It is by far the most shallow and juvenile medium in the Japanese entertainment industry, and that says a lot.

Your image screams crossboarder.
Kill yourself.

>>144904980
> He cries when people die

Mother fucking inhuman! Clearly nothing a sane, right-wing, proper, edgy modern human being would possibly do! The horror!

>>144901617

>Subaru
>Toyota
>Suzuki
>Mitsubishi
>Honda

Is there anything else im missing?

>>144907097
Anime, manga, LNs, and VNs has always been shallow. What are you talking about?

>>144901617
but don't you guys understand, that is the point.

with these characters everyone inserts themselves thinking "I would do soooooo much better".

>>144905684
Subaru also has issues too. In later arcs, it's revealed that his father is a real life gary stu who is loved by everyone, and Subaru has constantly felt inadequate due to the fact that he can never measure up to him.

>>144907174
Anime was alright up until the end of the early 00s

>>144907097
Seeing how you do not understand Subaru's character that needs to be completely broken down (self-worth), you seem to be confused under the idea that you know how the story goes, you don't.

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>>144906577
>Shinji is the same weak pussy till the very end.

Subaru is garbage, he literally had/have everything to make things go right, Shinji was born in trash and stayed in trash he couldn't really do any better

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>Nissan
>Daihatsu
>Yamaha
>Kawasaki

>>144907271
Go back to /v/ and kill yourself, fucktard.

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>>144907350
Why are you still replying to bait? This is as bad as being the bait man.
>>144907463
Subaru was always a piece of shit. He's a worthless husk of a human being. Truly the lowest of the low. He was willing to kill himself for Emilia but not Rem, oh no.

>Corralling all the Re:Zerofags and Evafags in to one thread

Brilliant OP. I wish I had thought of it first.

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Subaru is just an cheap obnoxious punching bag which gets quickly replaced with an identical after bursting. The only thing standing out in the series because nothing else is worth noting. He is wish fulfillment if you want to see a protagonist suffer. You nigs have a suffering fetish and go wild over anything that's pretty and satiates that lust, just admit it. And then the Eva comparisons inevitably stream in to elevate the new series through association.

Shinji suggesting Rei smile scene > Subaru getting Rem to smile due to cheesy long winded shounen speech. That's all I'll say, it's enough.

>>144907505
I don't play video games. That seems more like something you people would do.

>>144907568
This all day
I think 90% of the hate Subaru gets is because he never shuts up.

Subaru is naive and immature. He thinks that everything is doable and the new world he is in works on his favor. He doesn't understand how society works and he is ignorant of the desires and interest of the people around him. His self-appreciative justice is twisted. He believes that anything unjust should be corrected. He also lacks real social skills and he lacks the ability to communicate. His impatience also made all his action impulsive and uncalm, thus he is quick to anger. He is also prideful and ignore social rank and standing. He is also self-centered; he loves talking about his achievements and he is keen on taking the blame. He is also stubborn.

Subaru is someone who is unfit to live in Japanese society.

Shinji is emotionally dependent. He is a baby longing for love. Any form of emotional support is important to him. This led to him being completely dependent to Kaoru. He get easily attached to charismatic people. Thus he is easily manipulated. Being led to convenience is his false salvation. He is also stubborn; even committing completely to something he believes in even it is wrong. He is also lazy and unmotivated. He is irresponsible and always blame his father for turning him into that state. He is also nihilistic. Most effort would yield no results. Most results would yield no satisfaction. Satisfaction is only achieved through inaction. He is self-deprecating and incompetent. He lacks the sense realism.

Shinji is someone who would commit suicide in Japan.

>>144901617
they are the ultimate fulfillment for ugly fat neets. Back in the day we had confident strong characters for heroes

>>144907568
It's a little more than that in Re:Zero.
> Self-worth
> Trying to raise oneself higher
Ring any bells as the theme in Re:Zero?

>>144904193
No-one can defend episode 13. He was just straight up autismal.

>>144906318
Jesus Christ, what a fucking cutie. Others are unable to compete.

>>144907665
Clearly you do, after all, you fell for the
>only 90s anime is good
meme

>>144907703
This. Shinji and Subaru are polar opposites in many aspects. The one thing that they have in common is that they seek happiness through others.

>>144907736
He just wanted attention and using Emilia to justify his own pride at that moment.

>>144907765
Name me one recent anime that has had the same artistic value as - say Texhnolyze.

>>144907873
texhnolyze has no value

>>144907898
And that's where I stopped taking you seriously.

>>144907873
The Tatami Galaxy and Ping Pong are both better than Texhnolyze desu.

>>144907736
>>144907812
That's what happens when you look for self-value purely through others.

>>144907989
fuck no
Texhnolyze >>> TG >>> PingPong

>>144907989
Fair point. I haven't seen Ping Pong yet. Will definitely have to check it out.

>>144907040
I rather just straight up fuck the pussy and be done with it, rather than play with myself for couple of hours like a faggot that has nothing better to do.

>>144908052
flip those arrows around and you're correct

>>144908052
TG>>>>Ping Pong>Texhnolyze>>Lain>Haibane Renmei

>>144907989
This, Ping Pong is unrivalled by any other recent anime. It's so fucking good.

>>144908050
What is your value other than how you serve others?

To think you are only here to serve yourself is some true autism, and would certainly warrant being murdered by maids and suffering all the same that Subaru suffered.

>>144908062
>Implying one can just fuck the pussy
>What is foreplay

Are we talking about a whore or a GF/Wife? or are you such a busy man that you can just bend a bitch over for a quickie mister MC alpha anon-kun?

Shinji isn't really hateable for being a coward, most people would be if they were in his place.

Shinji is hateable cause he doesn't try anything when he has 3 girls that all liked him at some point in the story. And decides to fuck with the first guy who shows interest in him.

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>>144908273
>What is your value other than how you serve others?
I said "purely" its important to have some sense of self-worth so that you can a least be confident in who you are - unlike a certain Rem. I'm not talking about over valuing yourself and being some autistic faggot.

Or in Eva's case when Asuka realized she could no longer sync to her eva and that some beta faggot was her better - Shinji - she believed herself to be worthless and decided to better the world and end it.

>>144908300
>Are we talking about a whore or a GF/Wife?
gf
>or are you such a busy man that you can just bend a bitch over for a quickie mister MC alpha anon-kun?
The talk was about fiddling with yourself for hours, instead of just getting to the fun part.
Also
>not taking the girl raw when ever you want

>>144904716
Fuck that shit is confusing I see him being tired out from not only the work but his destitute situation of thrown in instantly after the gruesome deaths to a mansion where he is horribly murdered if could not perform quite perfectly and the magical ailments like his soul being damaged - But still must see this all as a character who is lazy and can't cry to friends even once.

>>144908369
Why are there people that can't get the subtleties in the show?

He doesn't "fuck them" because he's obviously doubting himself, and in one case feels used (try to guess with who). And neither of them "love him" because he's Shinji - Misato wants him to avoid loneliness and receive emotional support; Asuka wants to receive validation, emotional support, and attention from him. They all want something back.

And he loves Kaworu because he gave him affection without asking for anything. It could've been a an otherkin transgender Hawaiaan spirit and Shinji would've still had the same reaction.

Now, pls tell me this is bait.

>>144908684
It's called give and take. You give emotional support, you get pussy. It's how the real world works, not that you'd know.

>>144908853
That's also the recipe for a shitty relationship.

Not that you'd know.

>>144901617
>hating a pussy or a douche makes you an idiot
Sure.

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>>144908369
But he fucked Asuka, turned down Misato's advances because they weren't genuine and she was just trying to "comfort" him, and just never reached that point with Rei before she becomes a completely different person. What do you mean he doesn't try anything when he literally goes all the way with one of them?

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>>144901617

>>144906461
>>144906761
You clearly have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. Eva was the biggest anime ever when it was airing, Japan was in a depression and everyone from elementary school kids to slarymen would come home to watch Eva. It literally saved the town of Akihabara as they started selling Eva merch instead CRT TVs. EoE was poorly received coming off of Death and Rebirth as everyone expected Shinji to kick ass like Asuka did in the first half of EoE that they showcased only to get the Human Instrumentality sequence which was essentially a huge "fuck you" to all the fans who wanted to use NGE as an escapist self insert fantasy. Budget cuts being a factor are a complete myth, they lost some sponsors after the episode where Tohji appeared to die and were moved to a different, more appropriate timeslot, but it's not as if they just had absolutely no money and rushed out episodes 25 and 26 on a penny budget like people like to imagine, EoE was greenlit before they broadcasted and due to scheduling they had to whip something together to air on TV for those last two timeslots and so they followed Ideon's structure. Your reliance on buzzwords, abuse of greentext, and complete lack of insight into what the hell you're talking about completely invalidates anything you have to say.

Eva
>2deep4u bullshit
Re:Zero
>Journey about someone who just doesn't wanna give up

>>144904584
>with no cinematic sensibility

Episode 15 would like a word with you

>>144911356

The idiocy.

Eva is a classic that is enshrined in the mount rushmore of anime.

Re: Zero? Give me a fucking break, it will be forgotten about by next year. It isn't bad but it isn't great either. Shinji in the 7 episodes showed more depth and characterization than Subaru did the entire anime so far.

>>144911356
>Journey about someone who just doesn't wanna give up
Naruto, One Piece, Fate, etc.

>>144904800
Not quite. Eva was a character study where mechas have a partial influence on the behaviors and actions of the characters. It still is a minor feature compared to the core character study though