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Is Re:Zero the Madoka of anime?

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Is Re:Zero the Madoka of anime?
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Both are deconstructions, so yes.
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>>144790824
It's the Stein;gate deconstruction of the SAO genre.
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Is Nadesico the Evangelion of Evangelion?
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It has the potential to be a turning point for light novels.

Or at least isekai ones.
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Is Re:Zero the Re:Zero of Re:Zero?
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i can't tell if it is good or bad for LN adaptions because we either get
1. a million more isekai clones like it
2. people stop adapting dogshit LN
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>>144790824
It has one of the best, most fleshed out protagonists as far as LN adaptations go. An average commoner, rather than yet another irl otaku turning gary stu. I'd love the isekai genre to peter out finally, but this one's pretty damn good. The 2-cour series will adapt all 8 volumes that are out, but the Shinichiro's blog and web novel have enough content to last for 10-15 more novels as of now.
I wonder if they want to push the franchise with the web content and will announce the second season asap, or wait those 2 years or so for more lns to come out.
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>>144791272
It'll be good because it basically a blatant criticism of the whole "Fantasy/Alternate Reality" genre. It paints a realistic picture on dropping an unambitious NEET in to the world of magic, and shows that a change in surrounding doesn't just automatically erase somebody's flaws.

Basically, since it's forcing NEETs to self-reflect, it'll sour their ability to suspend disbelief when watching SAO type shows, and probably deal a blow to the genre.
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>>144791439
A WN has never been adapted directly into anime before, has it? I think it's always gotten published as an LN first.
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>>144791439
>>144791272
>>144791127
What is Isekai?

Please don't get mad at me
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>>144791867
異世界
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>>144791688
That is correct. But there have been instances of adaptations wrapping up the story before their respective original sources. Re Zero, however, appears to be too big of a story to be finished in one more 2-cour season.
And Shinichiro himself claimed that Betelgeuse is a small fry compared to someone amongst the judges. Which is probably going to be a separate arc.
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>>144791867
lurk for 2 years before posting you idiot
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>>144791867
Neet teleported to fantasy world.
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>>144792004
Don't cut yourself on that edge, underageanon.
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When anime experts in the future look back and classify this age of anime, they will refer to 1995-2010 as the Evangelion era, 2011-2015 as Madoka era, and 2016-? as the Re:Zero era.
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hey guys I just started watching it can you recomend any similar styled shows?
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>>144791867
"Isekai" - alternate world
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>>144790824
Both are overrated, so yes.
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>>144792063
kill yourself retard
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>>144791272
Mech was at it's height in popularity when Eva came out, and it killed the genre.

Moe was at it's height in popularity when Madoka came out, and it killed the genre.

I think the future is bright anon.
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>>144792111
Madoka no Evagelion
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>>144792289
>killed moe
literally nothing will ever kill moe and it is alive and well even this season/last season
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>>144792111
None. It's unique in its portrayal of a dysfunctional protagonist thrown amidst an alternate reality. He's weak, useless, pathetic, has no special (on-demand) powers, and brings about misfortune to those around him. It's a unique show in this and a few other regards. For shows that feature alternate dimensions just search for anything in the isekai genre.
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>>144792111
>>>/wsr/
fuck off
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The Madoka of anime as in one of the most overrated, edgy and non-original shits in the anime industry? Yes.
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>>144792289
Hopefully Re:Zero does a double wammy and knocks out both Isekai and the time redo shit like Erased and Relife which has been rearing it's ugly head recently.
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>>144792454
Congrats on being the first tripfag I've actually ever blocked
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>>144792666
>blocked
>>>/facebook/
>>>/twitter/
>>>/whereverthefuckyoucamefrom/
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>>144791038
But... SAO isn't a genre... Isekai though is a subtype...
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>>144792394
It didn't kill it, but it stemmed the tide a bit. Pre-Madoka, moe was out of control.
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>>144790824
it's the reddit of 4chan
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>>144792454
>tripfag
>shit taste

As expected.
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>>144791867
literally how do you people find this place?
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>>144793048
I clicked the /a/ at the top of the page
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>>144790824
>implying it's not the Evangelion of anime
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>>144792734
Why do you use a trip?
Because you're so fucking vain you need people to know who you are on an anonymous imageboard?
You guys are so fucking sad.
No one cares about your opinion, so don't use a name, fuckbag.
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>>144792454
Ill actually agree with you trip fag. This show and its fanbase is disgusting.
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>>144793505
why?
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>>144793505
>disgusting
I don't think you know what that word means.
If you're actually disgusted by the fact that there are people who like an anime that's objectively above average I recommend you grow the fuck up.
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>>144793478
It's a little bit of advanced shitposting. I'm surprised you haven't come across it before. Now you won't be able to tell if he's samefagging or not when he drops the trip. Just like this post.
I could be him, or I could be falseflagging.
Either way he has shit taste.
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>>144792956
I don't get why retards like you let the joke fly right over your heads. Get >>>/out/
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>>144793607
You're saying Lelouch is just an advanced shitposter?
If so why isn't his trip banned?
I think they are just needy people.
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>>144793607
How can you be him when i'm him?
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>>144793353
Made me laugh more than it should
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>>144793563

Ok ill elaborate a bit. RE zero isn't horrible, but its not some master piece like all the grade schoolers here claim it to be. They are literally stuck on their silver haired waifu ,"muh" suffering which they self insert into, and the shock value of violence, blood, and gore. It's a decent show, but do we really need 10 fucking threads a day about MUH SUFFERIN and EMILIA TAN? I take what I said back, I actually think the show is decent, the fanbase on the other hand is autastic.

>>144793582
Woah woah woah. I think you need to get back to the other 301 re:zero threads bud. Circle jerk with your kind there please.
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>>144793690
Lelouch's shitposting is admirable because he makes an actual effort to appear like he's not trolling, which makes for a top-notch game.

I don't know who this new guy is, but he's low effort. I've dabbled in tripping plenty so I know how it works if you want to piss people off, but this guy's pretty bad. He'll probably be gone tomorrow.
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>>144794198
>I don't know who this new guy is
Newfag detected.
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>>144794159
Good point
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>>144791272
Really hope it's the latter. The battle harem school clones were bad enough; we don't need to clutter up the charts with more LN garbage.
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i can't figure out whether or not i should pick this up
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>>144792004
>2 years

kill yourself degenerate nigger
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>>144790824
Nah. Homura is far, far superior to Subaru.
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>>144794624
Lurk for 2 years before posting.
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When will anime stop being dominated by isekai LN adaptations?
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I like Isekai anime

>pic related
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>>144790824
madoka without the popularity/success and adding a fedora tipper normie fanbase = reeeee:zero
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>>144791205
Yes.
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>>144794159
>Half of post is memes and buzzwords
>Ebonics tier spelling and punctuation

It's like fucking clockwork. Re:Zero really is a dumbass filter when you ask people to offer their opinion on it. The fact that you took back what you said and admitted the show was good after giving an explanation which has nothing to do with why the show is ACTUALLY good like the deconstruction aspect and assloads of symbolism shows you're underaged.
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>>144790824
Re: Zero is literally Sumaga, Animu form. I think it's perfect.
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>>144794683
>dominated
Nigga what? There aren't that many isekai adaptations.
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>>144794624
>two years is long enough to lurk
Come back in 10 years and we'll talk.
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>>144790824

Madoka is the Madoka of anime. I think you may want to rethink your phrasing and try again.
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>>144790824
Are Re.Zero fans the redditors of anime?
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>>144795130
Congrats, you managed to make the most newfag post in a thread full of newfag posts.
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>>144794524
I think it's good. You can decide fairly quickly whether or not to drop. First episode (1 hour two parts) gives enough of an idea.
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>>144795130
heh...looks like you got tricked
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>>144790824
Re:zero is the Evangelion of our Madoka
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>>144790962
I hope for your sake that this is either bait or full troll
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Can anyone explain what the hell Isekai is? I'm not usually a denzin of /a/ and google is being rather unhelpful on the specifics.
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>>144795822
"Another World"
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>>144795609
I hope you are reporting shitposting
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>>144795909

Gracias my fellow anon.
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>>144795822
Holy fuck, the answer is literally already in the fucking thread. Please commit sudoku.
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>>144790962
I don't think Madoka is much of a deconstruction what with mahou shoujo being a flexible medium anyway.

but Re:Zero certainly is one
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Re:Zero isn't really a deconstruction of anything.
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It's important to understand the difference between deconstruction and subversion.

Re:zero certainly subverts a lot of tropes in the fantasy anime genre (specifically about the subgenre where an individual is transported into a fantasy world).

HunterxHunter does the same thing with the shonen genre.

However, both aren't deconstructions. That's because deconstruction doesn't stop at simply subverting tropes. The common tropes have to be dismantles and then formed as something new all together.

An example of a deconstruction is Evangelion because it deconstructs the mecha genre by creating a psychological narrative instead, discussing the importance of individuality.

Finally, for any of you anons who will waste no time to defend Re:zero here, let me say that a deconstruction doesn't have a show good. It's simply an observation. The discussion doesn't stop at "this show is a deconstruction." It only starts at that.

Right now Re:zero has subverted plenty of fantasy tropes and has placed characters in compromised emotional states. The reason for this is due to the external brutal events of the fantasy world.
It has not made a point about this subversion yet. So it cannot be called a deconstruction.
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>>144796370
So Re:zero is the GoT of anime
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>>144796701
I don't know about that. GoT is a pretty standard fantasy if you're well acquainted with the genre.
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Re:Zero is the Undertale of anime
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>>144791867
>Please don't get mad at me

Tsk tsk tsk. Faggot.
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>>144790824
>Is Re:Zero the Madoka of anime?

I love Re:Zero while I dropped Madoka because it was shit to me. Sorry.
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>>144792997
sauce?
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>>144794198
>Lelouch's shitposting is admirable
>Jebus Matoi is a new guy
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It'll become a deconstruction when Subaru realizes that Emila-tan is an empty husk of a character. She's an empty void to project his fantasies onto, and being motivated entirely by her is pathetic as fuck which is why he is pathetic as fuck desu. The Witch's Stink will dissipate from him (hint: it smells like anus) only when he stops his creepy obsession with >Muh Princess, and settles down to marry Rem and plants baby onis inside her to begin repopulating her clan. Thus the fantasy of the creepy psychopathic otaku will become deconstructed into a morally wholesome fable of a loser transforming himself into a valuable member of society.
-t. Miyazaki
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>madoka
>deconstruction of majokko

I was more shocked by Minky Momo death than any thing I saw in Mado-shit.
That was pretty brutal in a majokko series for children. The protagonist's death's scene was terrible and a realisti death, unlike in Mado-shit.
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it giv me bonner
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>>144797274
>realisti death
realistic*
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>>144795130
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>>144797267
h-hey don't trash talk ma waifu
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>>144797034
shomin sample(?).
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>>144796979
Same, lmao. Madoka is like deconstructing a turd. It's like a pseudo deconstruction. A rhetorical question that retards needed answered but didn't know it until they bought faggy figurines of the boring ass characters.
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>>144797274

Seriously. Minky Momo death shocked tons of children, bringing dark content in the majokko genre for CHILDREN (not even for otaku) at least 30 years before than Madoka Magica, that can be adored only by a bunch of otaku that likes shit that pretends to bring real changes when it did nothing really new.
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>>144797319
me too whose your waifu? rem best gril kek
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>>144797549
emilia-tan for life
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>>144792111
Boku no Pico
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>>144790824
It's a good show with a mostly terrible fanbase that is overhyping it and forcing multiple simultaneous threads a day, attracting shit posters, contrarians and simply pissed anons who turn all those threads into pure fucking cancer. So yes.
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Ok
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>>144796370
It has started to go in a completely different genre though. Re:zero is all about Subaru's thought process instead of a traditional story.

Re:zero introduces a character that is supposed to appear initially as the same old same old Isekai build, with the only exception being that he's aware of that type of genre, and thinks that those rules apply to him as well, only to spiral on it to a person later who is desparately trying to sort out his own problems instead of tackling external dilemmas.

Re:zero is clearly all about Subaru, not any kind of overarching plot. Everything that happens to him including the curse and the characters he interacts with are simply plot devices to guide his development, not autonomous entities.
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