/a/ makes a chart

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>>144724382
Here's the manga one if anyone is interested.

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>>144724409
And just for the fun of it, a couple made by /co/ back in 2011.

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>>144724608
I remember having to fill out most of this one myself from my very poor knowledge of western media. /co/ was great for comic book stuff, but they're shit for actual cartoon stuff.

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Why you have to make the thread when everyone is asleep?
Ping Pong for stylized animation. I think this one is pretty locked in thanks to Yuasa adapting a Taiyō Matsumoto manga.
Of course you could fill the same spot with Tekkon Kinkreet or MindGame but I assume the point is to include rencent stuff on the chart.

>Name under each picture
Are you posting this on reddit?

>>144725383
I lost part of my files so it took me a while to find something useable.

And no, recent stuff isn't the aim. If something has really stood the test of time or was historically significant it'll be considered. Ping Pong is a pretty good choice for stylised animation though. I'll add it.

>>144725443
Never.

>>144724382
Obviously, scenery porn needs at least one Makoto Shinkai movie in it.

>>144725645
Which one do you think is his best work, anon?

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>>144725720
If we're only talking about scenery porn then Garden of words is obviously the best one.

>>144725837
Of course.I think his nature scenery is a lot better than his urban, so we'll go with that then.

This is silly.
How do you excel in "experimental"? Is motion action not part of cinematography? Is experimental animation not stylized?

>>144725972
Exactly why I asked for opinions on the categories. Experimental used to be "artsy", but I couldn't really think of any better word.

And most of this falls under cinematography. The color palette I would assume is a large part of the structure of the shot.
The problem is your mixing styles of animation and qualities of animation

>>144726074
Sadly I'm not an expert even after all these years, but in a way it's not meant to be for experts either.

If you have any recommendations you would like to make in regards to categories I'm more than happy to listen.

>>144726145
I'd recommend to chose to make a chart of anime that excels in specific styles OR anime that excels in specific qualities.

>>144724382
Does the Madoka Rebellion movie fit better under Surreal? Or would Experimental describe its Inu Curry visuals more accurately.

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Mushishi definitely needs to be in the "scenery porn--nature" category.

>>144726170
Well, certain qualities would be the best. Styles wouldn't quite fit for something like this I believe.

What would you suggest in terms of that?

>>144726221
If you want that drop. Experimental. Motion: Action, color palette, costume design, use of 3d, cinematography. MAYBE motion:realism,

>>144726270
I could definitely drop a few of those, or at least rename them to more effectively clarify what it is we want to put forward.

I would like to keep something to do with 3D/CGI, alternative art styles, and action choreography, however.

>>144724382
>The core purpose of this chart is not to recommend shows on the basis of their story but on the basis of their visuals and animation.
You and everyone seriously posting ITT needs to hang yourselves

>>144724382
Gundam Thunderbolt could fit very well in Stylized Animation.

Unless you think it's more /m/ than /a/.

What do you mean "Use of 3D"?
Because if full 3D, nothing can top Polygon, especially Sidonia (except Expelled from Paradise, that was a movie). But if used as a tool, Orange takes the cake. Plus points to PA Works' Kuromukuro for making a fluid mecha choreography sword battle.

>>144725443
kill yourself

>>144726339
so make a new chart.

>>144726466
Who made that EVA short that was on animator expo? The CG was great.

>>144726466
Back when this was first made 3D wasn't quite as prominent, so it probably needs redefining.

>>144726491
Don't see how it'd be all that much different from the current one, sorry. Overall the aim is to point out interesting parts in series that people have possibly overlooked due to being focused on the story.

>>144724382
Well, for experimental animation I'd just put good examples of animation that's not commercial or mainstream. Stuff like Kunio, Yamamura, Mizue or Tsuji. Stylized Motion will be more towards mainstream stuff like Ohira.

Oh, I remember this. You never finished the old anime chart, did you?

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I nominated pic related for use of 3D. Possibly Blame! too once it comes out.

Anyone got the updated /a/ Rec Chart?

>>144724382

Best urban:
Kara no Kyoukai
Makoto Shinkai's your name (saw it at Anime Expo)

>>144726809
Yeah. I meant to get back around to it, but I got pretty sick a couple years back.

I'm adjusting the chart right now to get rid of a couple categories to make it easier.

>>144726808
what Tsuji

>>144726919
Maybe filling the categories one by one would be easier.

>>144724382
Etotama for use of 3D

>>144724382
I've been thinking for a while now that there haven't been made recommendation guides recently and that we need to make some updated versions. I also like that you're first explicitly trying to get an agreement on methodology. Nice, desu.

>>144724382
Experimental would be Ping Pong, Tatami Galxy and House of small cubes

>>144724382
Urban scenery porn would be Kara no Kyoukai and Psycho Pass

>>144727041
holy shit

>>144724382
Use of 3D would be the first 4 JoJo OPs

Gimme a minute everyone whilst I just update the categories.

Really appreciate all the examples put forward so far. There's some really good ones in here.

>>144724382
For the motion action category I would definitely go for Space Dandy.
As pleb as it may sound OPM and FMA:B would be worthy as well. OPM for obvious reasons, FMA:B is stretched a bit thinner but the fight choreography was mostly top-notch.

Don't know how we decide on movies to existing franchises, but FMA Sacred Star of Milos is a real Kameda-fest we could put instead of thr actual serues. (Speaking of Kameda, Mob Psycho might be up for discussion depending on how it turns out).

I think Imaishi deserves a spot in stylized animation and I'm pretty partial to Gurren Lagann, though PSG is definitely more outlandish. Though putting one of his shows without having any Kanada yet is debatable.

Momo e no tegami is an obvious pick for surreal.

GitS 1995 and Jin Roh for realistic.

Since we're talking visuals I really want Penguindrum in there but with artsy gone I'm not sure where it'd fit.

I honestly think color palette is a shit category, since it's just part of visual direction/symbolism. If we change the category to that, Penguindrum would probably be a good fit.

Ah shit so much stuff I want I can't think of it all. If you want pics or webms to back up my claims just ask, I'll gladly comply.

>>144726196
Agreed

>>144726536
Definitely the best 3D I've seen

>>144724382
Quality is DB Super

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>>144724382
I'll try to pick one for each:
Scenery Porn: Natur - Mushishi
Scenery Porn: Urban - Kyousou Giga
Minimalism - Tatami Galaxy, if we want just one Yuasa then maybe Merdmaid (a short by Osamu Tezuka)
Surreal - Angel's Egg, though this might fit in the next one as well.
Cinematography: End of Evangelion
Color Palette: Casshern Sins
Costume Design: xxxHolic, though those were more impressive in the manga, so maybe Princess Jellyfish
Stylized Animation: Wanwa the Puppy and Kid's Story, if you want one Ohira then just Wanwa
Motion Action - FLCL
Realism - Jin-Rou and Letter to Momo (if one Okiura then Jin-Rou)
3D - Car Shit One
Experimental - A Feather Stare at the Dark (Charcoal Animation)

Ok, guess I couldn't limit myself to one in the end.

I'd also definitely put Kaguya somewhere.

>>144724382
since we already have the old charts, how about restricting it to the last N years? I mean the old charts don't suddenly become invalid and repeating them would also be redundant.

>>144727076
?

>>144727110
Case in point to the "franchise movies" category, Lagann-hen is a better, more concentrated representation of Imaishi style than the actual show

>>144727110
Dead leaves showcases Imaishi better than any of his Television works.

>>144724382
minimalism is Panty and Stocking

>>144724382
Kizu for color pallet, that movie was so fucking nice on the eyes.

>>144727199
Oh yeah I knew I was forgetting something obvious, also forgot Akira for scenery porn: urban

>>144724382
>Use of 3D
Garo: Hono no Kokuin

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>>144724382
>QUALITY
There is a new kid in town.

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Alright, here are the changes. Made a couple a bit broader.

I kept cinematography although I'm still not entirely sure on it, but I bet we can come up with some great ideas.

I lost a few of the icons cropping things... I dunno where the experiment ones went. Fuck.

>>144727339
did she lose her virginity? she got penetrated

Scenery porn (nature): Mushishi, Garden of Words, Grimgar.
We had Nerewareta Gakuen on the old chart, but it was really ruined with all that lens flare and sakura petals everywhere.
Scenery porn (urban): Tekkonkinkreet, GitS

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>>144727366
For cinematography I'd definitely go with End of Evangelion, Adolescence of Utena and Ghost in the Shell.

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Would Patema count as urban scenery porn?

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>>144726956
Naoyuki Tsuji.

>>144727400
it's ok between two girls.

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>>144727418

>>144727110
Fuck, meant Letter to Momo for realistic, somehow always think of the Ohira scenes in there.
Also Honneamise for scenery porn: urban.

>>144727460
>urban scenery porn
>not Garden of Words

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>>144727418
>>144727518
>cherrypicking charts
They can be made for almost anything.

I'm not saying that eva is a bad choice, but I don't find these images to be good tools to judge something.

>>144727366
Why not just drop the anime that are already on the old chart and make this one purely for stuff that aired afterward?

>>144727041
Try to keep it 1 per director.

>>144727592
It'd be better to have a nice mix I think. The last version was a bit off since most of the stuff on there hadn't been properly vetted.

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>>144727110
Space Dandy also is a strong pick for stylized motion, considering how many different styles it encompasses.

Perfect example is the fish planet episode, which I wish I had that webm of.

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>>144727577
I don't really find it to suprising that a hentai by Shinbo would have good composition. This honestly looks like a kind of hentai I could watch without even touching my penis once and enjoying the visuals.

I also think charts are better then just providing the title without any images like most posts in this thread.

Plus, I think Anno in general is a person people respect for his visual crafsmenship. I just added a cinegrid because I like cinegrids.

QUALITY: Inferno Cop
scenery porn nature: Princess Mononoke
A category like mechanical porn would be good for Steamboy, while it's mediocre as fuck it looks absolutely fantastic

>>144724382
Thank you so much for doing this again; I had assumed you were gone good.

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>>144727826
>QUALITY: Inferno Cop
You don't know what QUALITY means.

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Maybe something by Studio Pablo for urban scenery? Their backgrounds are pretty nice.

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I'm getting there. Sorry I've missed a few, but don't forget to include pictures (searching takes times) and more arguments since we're going to start filling up pretty quick at this rate.

>>144727871
I was sick... but I was never gone. I was just doing bingo threads on /pol/ every Monday night.

>>144727879
It's memorable for being QUALITY which is what creates most of the humor. Why only include unintentional QUALITY?

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>>144727902
Wixoss

Is a bit too early to put Mob Psycho 100 into motion (other)?

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>>144728015
Who did the backgrounds for Bubuki Buranki? They were great.

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>>144727941
I'd add Lain in either Urban or surreal and Kaguya in Scenery Porn. Here's how the works of Naoyuki Tsuji looks like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnzxxCaW7Dk

I find it kind of weird to have Ping Pon next to Tortov and Franz Kafka. That's why I think the experimental and stylized division made sense.

>>144728030
it is early(3 eps c'mon) and i would put it on surreal visuals.

>>144727670
Well for most categories, you could basically just post a sakugabooru link, cinematography and scenery porn definitely benefit from collages

Hey man, put Afro Samurai somewhere on that list. It's good shit, trust me. Either under Choreography or Motion.

>>144727366
Nah, nah. Put Redline back on that list dude. Trust me on this, Redline is still painfully niche. I want it to have as much exposure as it possibly can and it won't get that if you take it off the list.

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>>144728030
what do you think?

>>144727577
Is this Blood Royale or Yuuwaku?

>>144728100
I accidentally lost the icon for it. I'm trying to refind the picture. It'll be back.

>>144724382
I'd like to suggest modifying the costume design category to also include character and creature design, or split them as a separate categories.
For example, the creature designs in Spirited Away are varied and absolutely fantastic, but there's no category to put them in.

This belongs on reddit

>>144727941
Put Cat Soup into Surreal Visuals or Experimental.

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I didn't watch Seraph but the backgrounds look great

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>>144724382
I've got two for color, first is Cashern Sins.

>>144728126
You belong on Reddit.

>>144724382
I personally feel like out of all the things 1995 GitS does well, the most notable one within the categories listed is probably urban scenery porn.
youtube.com/watch?v=WB-ik-Bpl0c

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>>144728153
Two would be Dragon's Heaven.

>>144727941
keep experimental for just shorts. And put Tezukas Jumping

>>144728214
That's a pretty good idea...

>>144728214
This, Ping Pong just doesn't fit there.

>>144728153
I'd put it in character design or background art.

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>>144728124
No problem, if you need a replacement picture, I got a couple you can pick. Either this

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>>144728285
Or this.

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>>144728234
Besides Tsuji, I'd put something by Kawamoto like Briar-rose. Stop-motion is rather experimental when it comes to anime.

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>>144728151
It seems costume design is the least popular category again.

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>>144727539

>>144724382
Angels egg for scenery porn or surrealism

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>>144727244

>>144728326
I'd but Kuragehime, Paradise Kiss, Nana, Rose of Versailles and xxxHolic.

>>144726196
Mushishi should be in the "people finally talk and act like fucking real people" category. I fear there are not many other anime for it, though.

>>144728433
Watch more.

Texhnolyze for urban setting
>>144728403
read the chart

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>>144727333
>Garo
This.
Show By Rock was great too. Probably the best 3DCG in recent times.

>>144724382
>it's always same shit
Old "recommendation lists" have no anime post 2012-13

>>144728473
I agree with Texhnolyze with Urban Scenery.

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>>144728279
But it doesn't really fit either nature or urban and there isn't any character design category. I'd also put Mononoke in the color design category.

Do we just want to slap some short collections in there for experimental like Animatrix, Genius Party, Ani*Kuri 15 and Anime Expo or do we want specifics?

>>144728629
For experimental it was suggested that short films go in there, so if you've got anything for that put it forward.

>>144728562
What are some of the best anime in terms of visuals post 2012? My pics would be:
Space Dandy
Concrete Revolutio
Ping Pong
Yuri Kuma
Wonder
Japan Animater Expo (Kanon, Bubu and Bubulina, I can Friday by Day, MMM)
Mob Psycho 100
Thunderbolt Fantasy

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Tell me if I'm missing or got anything mixed up.

Anyone got some good urban pics for Texhnolyze? I'm getting nothing off google.

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Just saying, Backgrounds in Fafner exodus always surprised me.

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>>144728843

>>144728843
Personally I was thinking about the Ao no Exorcist movie. Been a while since I've seen it though.

>>144728832
I'm serious mate, Afro Samurai for either Choreography or Motion. It's good stuff.

Serial Experiments Lain would fit pretty well into Urban.

>>144728832
Does Kagewani count as unique style?

>>144728832
Show by Rock had better CG than Etotama. I'm not sure about putting Ping Pong in "unique style", since it's so close to the manga visual-wise.

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>>144728881
I haven't seen it so you might be right. I just remember being really impressed by Exodus' backgrounds.

>>144726829
no.

There are no high-quality pictures of Texhnolyze on the internet.

I feel like Tsumiki no Ie and Shashinkan fit somewhere on this chart, but I also feel like there are better things. Maybe both would go under minimalism, unique style, or experimental. Minimalism in how neither have dialogue and solely rely on visual storytelling.

>>144728967

Etotama has amazing stylized CG while Show by Rock has amazing regular CG. Both are fantastic, they just excel at different things. They should both be on the chart, really.

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>>144729039
yamato 2199 for CGI

>>144729094
>Etotama has amazing stylized CG while Show by Rock has amazing regular CG. Both are fantastic, they just excel at different things. They should both be on the chart, really.
Yeah, you're right. Just rewatched some scenes.

>>144728832
GTS into cinematography
Lain and Belladonna into surreal visuals
Casshern Sins and Mononoke into unique style.

>>144728967
>SBY CGI
meh. looks like plastic toys.

it may not be technically bad, but I think it stood out like a sore thumb.

>>144728832
Is Gundam Thunderbolt qualified enough to go for Choreography or Motion?

>>144728832
Non Non Biyori should have a spot in scenery porn: nature. Fafner in CGI and yozakura quartet in choreography.

wasn't the cgi in ufotable fates pretty baller?

>>144728960
I had forgotten all about that show, geez.

The visuals were really interesting. Nice catch, anon.

>>144729177
>Fafner in CGI
What is particularly impressive/good use about that one?

All I remember is them spamming black sphere special attacks and shiny gold things.

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>>144729101
I can agree with that.

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Katanagatari has some nice choreography when it happens.

Tonkatsu could be unique style. It is the same as it's manga though.

Kind of wonder in what category Hyouka would fit. It's one of the best looking TV anime out there with both amazingly lively down-to-earth atmospheric crowd shots and more surreal visual metaphors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIgwAmEHbZA

>>144728807
>Concrete Revolutio
>Mob Psycho 100
Supporting these.

>>144728832
Is Kaguya minimalistic?

>>144728832
I went through the independent animation list recently, checking all the available shorts available and here are the best picks in my opinion

Unique styl, traditional animation:
Tortov and Kafka are my pics as well
Shigeru Tamura - Glassy Ocean
Mirai Mizue - Wonder
Osamu Tezuka - Jumping or Broken Down Film

Unique animation technique:
Tadanari Okamoto - A Restaurant of Many Orders (Copper Plate Engraving)
Kihachiro Kawamoto - Ibara-Hime matawa Nemuri-Hime (stop motion puppets)
Naoyuki Tsuji - Yami wo Mitsumeru Hane (Charcoal animation)
Noburo Ofuji - Yuurei Sen (silhouette animation)
Keita Kurosaka - Midori-ko (pencil animation)

I have best pics for the others, but those are the best overall in my opinion.

>>144728832
Mob Psycho 100 should go in unique style desu.

>>144728502
>>144727333
Thirding Garo, nominating Etotama for 3D as well.

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>>144728832
>Unique style
House of Five Leaves probably deserves a spot there. Kind of wish someone would make a Takemitsu Zamurai adaptation, that could be really interesting looking. Glad that's on the manga version at least.

>>144729306
If we had one for character designs it could go together with Casshern Sins.

>>144729490
>Mirai Mizue - Wonder

You mean this? https://vimeo.com/62582236

Because holy shit

For motion, I'd like to recommend Yozakura Quartet.

I'd produce a webm as proof if I had one, but maybe someone else does.

>>144729527

I haven't watched it, so maybe it's more unique than it looks in those pictures or even in motion, but it doesn't look that different from other anime, such a Rakugo.

Am I just bad? 'Cause it looks pretty average as far as anime styles go.

>>144729591
Yes, that's it. But why limit yourself? You can watch the whole thing on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNtqywa7ASM

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>>144724382
Hunter x Hunter (1999) for cinematography.

>>144729678
You should probably watch it, it doesn't really look like Rakugo at all.

I don't have an example on me, but Noein definitely deserves a spot in the Experimental category.

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>>144729697

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So we've filled up choreography, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything at this point. If you think you have something which overrides another or you think something would better belong in another category you're welcome to throw your arguments out there.

>>144729225
I feel like something by Ufotable should be up on here somewhere.

>>144729686
I would, but I have rather sensitive eyes to some things. I can't watch certain movies in 3D.

I'm just saying but you should put Nichijou in motion, and I don't think you're going to need an example.

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>>144729244
The robots are 3d in the second season and the movie I think. I personally wouldn't put it up for 3d, but then again you have people trying to put up Yamato for 3d and the space ships looked like toys.

Would Ninja Slayer count as Minimalist, or QUALITY?

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I'd vote for Mob Psycho for Unique style.

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Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu for Urban Scenery porn.

>Texhnolyze
>HD pictures on the net

yeah, nah.

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I don't think you can have a QUALITY category and not include Twintails. Not after it aired.

>>144729686
I feel like every short collection has one of these
>morphing shapes set to music
films. Is this supposed to make me feel something? I know a lot of time went into it, but it's just not an interesting composition.

I believe that Girls und Panzer definitely deserves a slot in the CGI category.
It's a series that would have been pretty much impossible to create without using CGI.

>>144729796
Ufo has best digital team.
>http://www.ufotable.info/2014/12/the-golden-light.html
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92YMDisG1OU

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Uchouten Kazoku for Urban Scenery.

>>144730028
I concur, the CGI helped GuP have 10/10 fight scenes. The show would have never worked without great tank battles, and the tank battles couldn't have been as good as they were without the CG.

>>144730017
I felt what the title told me.

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>>144729877
I dont think NS or IC fit into QUALITY because they are an intentional stylistic and directional choice, even more for NS since it fits the book's writing.
It could go to minimalist but it has some intricate backgrounds and scenes.

>>144730044
Uchouten Kazoku is same tier as Tatami. Not only backgrounds

>>144730102
I guess I did too, I wondered why people keep making these things.

>>144729796
Nature: Nerawareta Gakuen or Grimgar
Urban: Tekkonkinkreet, Owari no Seraph
Minimalism: Yamadas or Kaguya-hime
I'd change Katanagatari for Seirei no Moribito or FMA Brotherhood.
Nichijou and G-Reco for Motion (Other).

>>144729796
So I guess if there is a unique style part we can add Mononoke and Casshern Sins there.

I'd put Wanwa in motion (other) though.

>>144724382
beserk 2016 second from bottom for use of 3d

>>144730142
I'm sorry you felt that way.

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Either Tamako Love Story or Disappearance for direction.

>>144730146
I'd like to second Katanagatari changing for something else, and also I think G-reco really should be on the list.

Katangatari is already on every rec chart and sight on the internet, everyone already knows it's good.

G-reco has a mixed reputation due to its plot, but I think it's one of the most beautiful shows I've ever gotten to watch while airing. It really deserves recognition.

>>144729855
yeah, yamato looks too clean. spaceships need a little wear and tear.

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It's considerably hard to get more "unique style" than Gankutsuou.

>>144724653
Will you be doing this one as well? You could use some better choices in my opinion.

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>>144729796
Gatchaman Crowds should be there in CGI usage. It pops and cohesive in the same time.

>recommendation chart
Fuck off with this shit.

>>144730364
How new are you? We don't offer recommendations in the first place because we make these charts. We've done this every year for a very long time.

Show by Rock should probably be dropped in favour of Fafner Exodus, Buddy Complex, Active Raid, or some other good-looking CG mecha show.

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ConRevo had some questionable episodes in animation and plot, even though i loved every bit of it, but the rest of the animation and general art direction i think land it a spot.

>>144728473
daw fuck

>>144729796
>OPM
>Choreography
I don't see it

>>144730423
Majestic Prince perhaps? I recall that being popular as a choice way back.

>>144730320
I agree (and I'm a total sucker for Gatchaman Crowds), but I think there's probably better that can be picked out there.

>>144730278
Knew I was forgetting something.

>>144730272
Kinda agree. Sometimes when the CG is too clean, particularly in its textures, it just comes off like there was no effort put into it.

>>144730251
I was considering putting Katanagatari into minimalism, but I'm sure there must have been a reason why it never made it on the other revision. I'm sure I remember some people making good points against it.

Haven't really seen G-Reco so I can't give an opinion on it myself, sorry.

>>144730291
Nah, probably not. /co/ isn't the same as it was back then and they'd probably argue about the diversity and representation than the visuals.

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There should be a section for characterisation via animation and put Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu and some Naoko Yamada in there, shows or movies that emphasis character expressions, framing, posturing and interactions. Something being pretty and striking is all good and pleasant but we should also praise/recommend animation that facilitates for storytelling. This category would also give credence to talented direction whereas one could argue all other categorises celebrate animation directors, key animators and the quality of the studio. perhaps this could replace CGI usage because even the best CG in anime isn't particularly incredible, it's like we have two QUALITY sections

>>144729796
how is Akira not in urban?

was that in the first?

>>144730580
>Nah, probably not. /co/ isn't the same as it was back then and they'd probably argue about the diversity and representation than the visuals.
I understand but too bad. Feherlofia could really fit surrealism and It's Such a Beautiful Day - minimalism.

>>144730423
Isn't most of them from Studio Orange?

Also speaking about Orange, how could one doesn't mention Majestic Prince? That is top game Orange.

>>144729978
Yeah, I'd replace that "the worst answer is in your heart" bullshit with that or some other recent anime known for its QUALITY.

>>144730602
I did have character expression on a very early version of the chart, but I can't remember why people said they didn't want it.

>>144730679
>the worst answer is in your heart
What's it supposed to mean anyways?

>>144730423
SB69 should stay. Majestic Prince should be added for mecha.

>>144730679
If Gakuen Handsome was out, I'd consider putting that.

But it's kind of intentional so I dunno.

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>>144730580
>Majestic Prince perhaps?
All of these shows had their CG done by Orange, and they, naturally, get better as years come. MJP was the earliest of the four, and was, in my opinion, a bit too overly reliant on rapid camera movement and I wasn't the biggest fan of the shading.
Now I'm obviously biased since this was my favourite show of last year, but I'd put Exodus out of them, Buddy Complex only used CG for dynamic faraway shots and switched to 2D for closeups and Active Raid, well, that's just bias. Active Raid is even better in some areas like blending, but then again things like Festum aren't supposed to blend in, the CG makes them look extremely alien and unfitting which is the point.
Oddly enough, Mayoiga nailed that effect too. The CG monsters looked so ridiculously out of place the B-movie effect was enhanced trifold.

>>144730738

The worst anime is your opinion? It's not that difficult to understand.

>>144729796
Yozukura Quartet should be Yozukura Quartet: Hana no Uta. The original Yozakura Quartet was completely different style-wise, and frankly wasn't as good.

>>144730801
Well, not hard to understand. I just always though it's some implied title everyone is supposed to know.

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X is a bad movie but it has insanely good animation and backgrounds. I think I need to scan the production art book at some point because there is nothing online from it.

Metropolis also has great backgrounds but I believe it was already on one of the old charts.

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>>144730798
Example for Mayoiga, in case it's even needed.
I was equal parts unsettled and laughing like an idiot.

>>144729796
Nature - Kaguya
Urban - Akira
Minimalism - Windy Tale
Surrealism - Lain
CGI - GITS 2
Motion (other) - put Wnwa here
Style - Belladonna, Casshern, Mononoke

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Bubuki was pretty good. There were even better scenes than this one.

>>144730580
I suggest you search for some G-Reco videos. Weirdly enough i dont have any webm of it.

>>144730798
I agree with this man.

>>144730837
your favorite animu

>>144730885
Yeah, I was quite impressed by Mayoiga's CG work and how they nailed the unsettling feeling. The textures were fantastic. Goofy sometimes, but fantastic.

If you've got any stills for Exodus I'd appreciate it.

>costume design
Tiger & Bunny

>cinematography
Aoi Bungaku

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>>144730997
I'll try to provide some different examples.

>>144730728
Yeah it's a shame, I love interesting visuals styles and fluid animation as much as the next guy, but most examples of these are high budget action or surreal orientated shows. A characterisation section would serve as a proper means of introducing newfags to character-orientated storytelling as a subtle alternative to some of the larger scale shows/movies already featured on the list. There's kind of a stigma against SoL outside of certain circles on /a/ so I wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason why people are opposed to this idea, but IMO we should be demostrating all the medium has to offer and not only the experimental/high budget stuff.

Basically all of:
>Experimental
>Minimalism
>Surreal Visuals
>Cinematography
>Unique Style
could be put into a single "visual direction" section

All of:
>CGI Usage
>Choreography
>Motion (Other)
could be put into a single "animation" section

All of:
>Scenery Porn: Nature
>Scenery Porn: Urban
could be put into a single "back drops" section

So just squash together two "visual direction" categories and put in direction or characterisation, if people approve.

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>>144731114
I don't see why we have to get rid of any of them to add another one.

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>>144729225
The SFX were nice. But weapons or ground were so-so.

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>>144731155

>>144731013
Thinking about it Tiger & Bunny would be a really good pick for color/palette.

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>>144730457
Seconding this, they nailed the animation down.

I'd also consider adding it to colour, since it went out of its way to be as vibrant as possible at time, I'll see if I can find some examples.

>>144731177
oh fair enough I thought we wanted to keep it a consistent size

>>144728832
OPM doesn't really have particularly good choreography. Just really good animation quality

>>144731155
it's shiny. but does that make it good?

>>144731201
that large barreled weapon sticks out. no surface detail compared to the mecha. and the ground doesn't fit.

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>>144731255
>color/palette
If we have that category then Tsuritama is a must.

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Still trying to catch up with you all. We're doing pretty good. 1am over here so I might have to get going soon, but at least there's the archive in case I miss anything.

>>144731114
I think that's a nice idea, though you'd need to make 3 separate charts for that.

>>144724382
nice time of the year to do this

>>144731198
How about the choreography?

>>144729796
fucking Katanagatari for choreography?
>>144729306
That isn't good choreography, it's just fast and exciting and appears to be cool action. Those swords swings don't look dangerous they look silly.

>>144731370
I know this is early, but how about placing Mob Psycho in either Unique Style or Experimental.

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>>144731370
I feel like katanagatari deserves a mention for choreagraphy

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>>144731370
I wonder if by the end of this season Berserk will have enough to justify being in the quality section.

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>>144731370
Nichijou for motion, buddy.

>>144731363
Yeah I'd definitely want Tsuritama there too.

>>144731433
It's why I've said nothing is in there solidly yet. You wanna kick it out, then find something else.

>>144731457
I'm sorry, anon. It's a little too early. You need to see if they can keep the consistency up.

>>144731345
I thought the choreography was pretty good in how they kept things flowing. Perhaps it'd be a better contender in Motion Other?

>>144731370
Madoka Rebellion for Cinematography please.

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>no LWA1/2

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>>144731370
Casshern Sins for unique style

>>144731472
I couldn't even finish the first episode.

>>144731476
Good catch, buddy.

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>>144724382
Lain and Mind Game for surreal and Hourou Musuko and Tatami for color.

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>>144731546
Better example

California Crisis is an overlooked OVA that could fit into scenery porn/urban. It's set in America and the city scenes are pretty vivid.

I'll see if I can get some screenshots. Too bad it never got remastered because it'd look way better.

>>144731511
>I thought the choreography was pretty good in how they kept things flowing. Perhaps it'd be a better contender in Motion Other?
Sounds good. Also, find a better representative image. Dumb face doesn't really sell it.

>>144731511
FLCL needs to be in Motion.

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>>144731198
>https://u.pomf.is/uycukh.mp4
This scene is hand drawn. It's not CGI.

>>144731370
Lupin III Part IV for Scenery Porn: Urban

Kyousogiga for Unique Style

>>144731511
>find something else
The house of five leaves has great choreography, not fight choreography if you're specifically looking for that.

>>144731370
Shaft shows is very idiosyncratic, but I don't know if it should go to the unique style. What do you think?

>>144731628
This, I mean it's kind of silly not to have it. Would add webms but all the sakuga ones are more than 4 MB.

>>144731646
the only impressive part of that cut is the CGI additions

>>144731693
eh, it's more the style that is impressive, there's not much choreography. do you have a webm of what you thought was particularly impressive?

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>>144731614

>>144731646
GCI isn't limited to 3D animation.
Digital effects, which Ufotable use a lot, are GCI.

>>144730423
>Buddy Complex
>good-looking CG mecha show
You... do know Buddy Complex doesn't feature any CGI, right?

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>>144731719
Kizumonogatari is litteraly "kino". It's inspired by french cinematography.

>>144731719
I'd say more cinematography since their quality overall for shot composition is excellent and engaging.

>>144731413
Good but not as remarkable as the CGI.

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Not sure where Lupin the Third: Daisuke Jigen's Gravestone should be. But I feel like it should be somewhere.

>>144731747
now that i'm looking at it it's more the blocking than choreography specifically

>>144731740
try harder, shitposter-kun
>>144731759
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkw7WClIt_A
Not everything that looks like CGI is CGI

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>>144731823
No, Shaft obviously goes into CGI usage.
Such a talented studio.

>>144727218
>>144731370
>>Minimalist: Panty & Stocking

Uh, I don't see any link at all.

Also, Aku no Hana would come under Experimental, I think.

>>144731977
Aku no hana is just rotoscoping done bad. I don't think the anime deserves any recognition.

The Madoka: Rebellion movie definitely falls under surreal.

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>>144731977
If you want to include one rotoscope anime for some reason then use The case of Hana and Alice, not Aku no Hana.

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Okay, it's 1:30am so I'm out until tomorrow. This is how the chart is looking so far, but obviously things aren't entirely set in stone yet. I'll check the archive later on to see if there's anything I've missed. Thank you all for your suggestions and help so far!

>>144732027
Their urban landscapes were well done. I think they did WIXOSS as well, which may actually be a good contender for scenery porn: urban.

>>144732027
It could go under QUALITY

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>>144731529
you got a point there, LWA basically feels like pre-pixar disney.

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Agetarou could be in the minimalist section.

>>144732142
Thank you, GMT+10-san.

>>144732142
If you give a shit, you should probably stick the chart around for a week for quality control or see if we have missed anything.

I also vouch for the TV version of Twintails for the 5th spot in quality. It was fucking something special alright

>>144732142
I think Seraph's backgrounds are their best so far. Wixoss and Aku no Hana's backgrounds looked really nice too.

>>144732227
No probs, mate.

>>144732262
The last charts took quite a few days so no worries there.

>>144732285
I'll think about those tomorrow. I've yet to see the Kingdom of Corpses and I'm redownloading Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust. I feel like those had something interesting as well.

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Kekkai sensen had some pretty good urban scenary, though most of them was background.

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>>144731370
Still Kara no Kyoukai for Urban Scenery Porn

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Non Non Biyori for Scenery porn nature.

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>>144732142
I feel like Panty and Stocking shouldn't be in minimalist. Scenes often get really cluttered and get messy with colour. I don't think it fits in with "minimalism", but is rather just heavily stylized to be simple. Simple isn't the same as minimal so I want to propose instead Turning Girls. It is a short about a few girls in their 30s.
First episode is online here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gEPTJ81LuI

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>>144732482
Oh I forgot to say that Turning Girls embraces minimalism in its animation, using the bare minimum to to be called animation. It plays more like a slideshow then anime.

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>>144731760
It did.
It alternated between 3DCG for the faraway dynamic shots in battles and went 2D for the closeups.
For example, the middle Beryl is clearly CGI.

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>>144724382

>>144733003
You didn't fill up all the boxes.

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For motion(other)

NICHIJOU

>>144733046
I did this on my phone it took me like an hour you big faagot

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>>144731413
Not bad, but interrupted by lots of talking and scene cuts.

Replace panty and stocking with the tatami galaxy.

Make a new category for Western influences

Put panty and stocking there

>>144733197
What else would be there?

>>144733271
Bebop

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>>144732142
If we have music performances for CGI then i would replace SBR with precure.

Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei for the unique style
Monogatari Séries for the Urban backgrounds
And Non Non Biyori for the Nature Backgrounds

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Nerawareta Gakuen for scenery porn? I'm not really sure if it belongs under nature considering its mostly a town covered in plants.

I'd like to suggest Houkago no Pleiades for nature scenery. It has scenery porn of space that isn't usually found in anime.

>>144733131
>Make boxes transparent
>Overlay the image in the background
Don't see this taking more than 10 minutes.

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>>144733359

>>144732482
I fucking love Turning Girls. They did really well to make me want to kill myself whenever Kaerun was on screen.

>>144725443
>make recomendation chart for people to learn of new manga/anime
>"take the name out, they should be able to recognize where the pic comes from by themselves"
Are you retarded?

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>>144732142
I feel like a Mamoru Oshii movie would fit into urban scenery porn because movies like Ghost in the Shell, GITS: Innocence and Patlabor 2 all have famous city montage scenes.

Not sure which one is the best and most fitting though.

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>>144733419
post some screenshots. also, thunderbolt had some nice space derelicts.

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>>144733491

>>144733053
it is irrelevant if it is good or not, the point of a chart should be to have things to recommend for people to get into good works of anime that plebeians do not know of.
Nichijou is one of the plebbist works in existence, it is pointless to include it in a chart because everyone looking into it to get to know new anime will already know of it

>>144732142
Shouldn't there be a mechanical animation category, considering that's a whole school of animation that people specialize in?

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>>144732142
some shaft for surreal. either madoka

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>>144733901
or gatari stuff

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The Woman called Fujiko Mine really should be there for unique style. Thought it was pretty much the best Lupin series in like a decade.

Also, really happy to see Cat Shit One on the list. Still the best CGI in anime I've seen.

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>>144732142
I would suggest Kuuchuu Buranko for unique style.

And Bakemonogatari for it's good use of french new wave cinematography for the cinematography list.

>>144732142
Definitely Non Non Biyori for Nature.

>>144734147
No need to put multiple Shaft shows for cinematography, it's the same shit.
It's already pretty redundant when there's already an Ikuhara movie in there.

Just stick Mirai Mizue/Yutaro Kubo/Koji Yamamura into experimental and be done with it

>>144733329
bebops animation isn't western influenced.

>>144734192
You are right, no dupes.

But I still feel like Bake fits the niche better, because it's unique in it's use of a very specific type of cinematography that you don't find other places. While the Madoka movie just looks prettier and has movie budget.

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Would Pale Cocoon fit in the experimental list?

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Anthologies like Neo Tokyo, Robot Carnival and so on ought to be in there.

I think old charts generally got shit like Memories and Genius Party since they were more popular, but they tend to miss the older ones

Kyousougiga for cinematography. Easily.

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>>144734736
seconded.

Also D needs a spot somewhere.

>>144733449
Key word on a cell phone. Not only am I limited control-wise but the apps I use doesn't have near as many essential tools as something like photoshop

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>>144734147
>And Bakemonogatari for it's good use of french new wave cinematography

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>>144734972
Not an argument

>>144724382
Well. Etotama for sure should go on "Use of 3D"

>>144735040
please explain Bakemonogataris use of french new wave cinematography

In the 3DCGI category:

Short Peace
Last Exile

The first is probably the best example you'll find of artistic CGI useage, since it was an anthology made specifically to showcase the potential of CGI animation. The last entry in the anthology, A Farewell to Weapons, is particularly exceptional from a technical standpoint.

Last Exile itself was simply groundbreaking for its time, as one of the earliest examples of CGI integrating successfully with traditional animation. It's worthwhile as a historical curiosity if nothing else, as it was essentially a proof-of-concept for CGI use in anime.

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>>144733053
I would disagree, when I first came to /a/ I had only seen Afro Samurai and TTGL and maybe a few others but I had certainly not heard of Nichijou. Charts like this are for newfags who have seen absolutely nothing and come on her wanting to know how to into animu

Also keep in mind that Nichijou underperformed, outside of the web (where it is lauded), Nichijou is basically a cult-hit.

>>144735040
Just because you watched the 400 blows doesn't mean you understand the french new wave.

>>144735141
Don't ask him too much, he just watched that RCanime video about it.

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>>144735103
This enlightened etofag here is 100% correct

>>144735188
I think the issue with including Nichijou is that the animation is by no means a staple of the series. Every now and again it explodes into suddenly, intense sakuga for the sake of a gag, but the overwhelming majority of the show, outside of maybe 8 or 10 gags spread across 26 episodes, is very conventional in its motion and animation.

It would be like including Owari no Seraph in urban scenery porn because it had 2 or 3 nice backgrounds in the first few episodes.

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>>144735040
>french new wave cinematography
French new wave doesn't feature a cohesive style you nitwit, literally the whole basing for the movement was that each director had their own unique style, the auteur theory. Truffaut isn't comparable in shot composition and framing to Godard or Resnais. The closest stylistic correlation between each directors' films would be editing techniques, which isn't cinematography. Otherwise the literal point of the movement was to showcase each directors unique image, you could not be any more wrong, quit talking out of your ass.

This is besides the fact that no one director in the movement created films anything like Bakemonogatari.

Anime by Alejandro Jodorowsky fucking when?

>>144724382
gundam thunderbolt has to make one of those categories, it was beautiful. also one of the greatest use of soundtracks in years

>>144735389
>literally the whole basing for the movement was that each director had their own unique style, the auteur theory
In other words, just like Shinbo's style.

You seem to have mistakenly assumed that for something to qualify as "french new wave" requires not that it follows the tenets of french new wave, which would mean giving auteurs the freedom to express their own, unique style and eschew standardized style approaches, but that it simply imitates the unique style of one of the auteurs involved with the movement, which would actually be directly contrary to the entire driving concept behind the movement.

>>144735304
But every Eastern show is like that besides movies or shortrun series. No 26 episode series has consistently excellent animation, to the level that every scene could be featured in a webm in some cancerous sakuga thread. Nichijou does it for gags just as Space Dandy or One Punch Man does it for action. Arguably Nichijou is a more consistent example because while Dandy has its idle scenes in the cafe or spaceship or OPM has its idle scenes in his apartment, neither of which showcasing particularly incredible animation (sorry if I'm forgetting some good scenes in these settings) Nichijou almost always features fluid animation, which is why people throw around "forced animation", because KyoAni used excessive frames during just idle scenes.

>>144730028
https://a.pomf.cat/kffmnw.webm

>>144735602
I do not understand what you're saying in that second sentence. It's all one run-on sentence broken up by commas and I don't understand what you assume I'm saying and what you think French new wave means, honestly I am confused.

>>144735795
He's saying that if French new wave is defined by unique and diverse styles, then copying the style of a french new wave director is automatically disqualified from being french new wave because it's not unique.

>>144735497
Not after he told us the recipe for curing the psychological damage that a father inflicts on her daughter after raping her, on Twitter.

>>144735793
That doesn't look good in my opinion. It's just a ground texture, house fronts and 3 tanks sliding over them.

>>144735602
>>144735389
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>>144735897
tl; dr
Monogatari is Wes Anderson sans the primary colors and shitty.