Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1614

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>>144707728
よっしゃ！できたぞ

>all the links in the guide are on megajewishload

Thanks faggots, I really enjoy not being able to download shit right in front of me

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are therr any djt memes i should catch up with? lol all i know is the you cant learn japanese girl and thats it hehe

>>144707883
>kiwis
>jewish

now now, pol is that way

>>144707900
rtk

>>144707900
we aren't memelords in here unless they're in nip

Have no taken any nip course or text book.

After years of animu, I somehow can understand the grammars (i.e. conjugation) ,also because of chink's base stat boost the vocabs also seeps into me, ( sometimes some out of place kotowaza, jap's 四字熟語, 和製漢語 and 熟字訓 still amuses me )

Able to make out meaning quite accurately from news portal articles, however i still can't write a shit sentence (like : that will be a pleasure if you let me go with you) other than やらないか.

walking into /djt/ first time, i tried tae kim, but starting from は　を　の　へ　で is just plain ass pain.
How do I self assess ?
also any suggestion for learning thru chink?

>>144707998
oh well then it motivates me to learn faster so i can meme lol

>>144707900

remembering the kanji

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>>144708068
>just plain ass pain.
>How do I self assess ?

>>144707900

You asked for memes

Well here is one >>144708068

>>144707900
There's never any memes you have to learn in any community unless you're trying to use memetics to give yourself an appearance of experience.
All you have to do is be humble and have fun

>>144708313
>have fun

i think i fuckin did it guys it took a while but the paradigm shift is real

>>144708395
>i think i fuckin did it guys
No me

>>144708415
if everyone has fun i dont even give a fuck about the cred

>>144708313
some vg generals showed me otherwise
especially those where noone plays any games actually

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is there an option to turn on furigana in this? i don't know my kanjis well enough to read long ass names yet

Fuck. WaniKani costs 300 bucks. I knew they charge money but that much?

Anyone here long time experience with it to tell me if the price is justified?

>>144707148
I've been sitting on that masterpiece for too long. I'm glad you can get some use out of it.

I have lots more but I can only recall them when the words come up. I don't actually use them as mnemonics, just curious little connections between languages that happen to pop into my mind.

>>144708483
VNR hooking gives you furigana option.

>>144708599
where

>>144708535
Yeah totally worth it

>>144708562
i bet youve been working on flexibility exercises and can get barely the tip of your dick in your mouth at this point

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>>144708535
>300 bucks
honestly? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHA
HAHA

>>144708535
decisions decisions i could get a playstation or i could get wanikani

>>144708679
Can you go more in-depth please?

What was your experience like etc.

>>144708878
Haha trolled you wanki kankiy sucks

>>144708483
Does it not have sound? If so, you can just listen to the names. If not, then it sucks as a beginner VN and you should go read Hanahira, which is genuinely good.

>>144708535
Why are you even considering it when everything you need is free?

Why do Japanese books come with bookmarks?

>>144709387
JUST

>>144708535
>>144708878
just use the free trial and figure out if its worth or not yourself

i remember things with it a lot better than anki, and the vocab list isn't 80% useless newspaper words like core6k either

>>144709620

Well of course a paid service will have more attention to detail than a free side job.

People here only hate wanikani because they gotta shell some money for it

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>>144708535
It's a locked down Anki with a pretty UI

Is a pretty UI and less control worth 300 bucks to you?

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>>144681434
I guess once a slave always a slave
I wonder when I'll have the courage to drop anki.
>>144693554
>Only 10k in 2 years? I thought 10k per year was generally considered the minimum.
I have had great success in subscribing to the school of "read more". I always focused more on reading than anki, when I started reading anyway. Before that I was just lazy about flashcards because memorizing kanji hurt.
I stopped mining about six months ago, and before that didn't do many new cards anyway.
At some point it becomes so easy to just read and have a good time that's all I end up doing. Don't even bother to add unknown words to anki. Of course, I don't need a texthooker to read. I only let myself get this slack because reading got so easy, in general.

>>144709620
>80% useless newspaper words like core6k
Reminder that the vast majority of the words that seem useless to a beginner turn out to be very useful when they actually start reading Japanese porn games.

>>144709914
Holy crap
I just want to say, thank you.
I don't come here often anymore. Stopped a while ago. I came here to post about an incident with anki, because it's the first "learning Japanese" relevant thing that's interrupted my months of solid reading.
And, what do I see, but your post. It made me laugh out loud. It is just so excellent to see, the exact same replies being made to the exact same posts, that were being made months ago, a year ago. It's so funny. The whole time I've been gone, the same things have been discussed. It's an endless loop. It's funny that people participate in it despite knowing its looping, and its funny if people don't realize they're in a loop. What a wild place, DJT. An endless recursion of time.

>>144709906

What was the first thing you read?

>>144710080
My first manga was To Love Ru. I was afraid of Yotsuba because it was THE easy thing. I didn't want to read it and fail. So I just thought of a shounen harem and started it. Was a good read.
The first VN I read, though, was Mako Hunter.
I want to re read it, because at that point I remember being in the "a new kanji every line!" state of mind. How wild! It would probably be a whole new experience now.
By the way, I mention both VN and manga, because the experience of reading with a texthooker in a VN was life-changing. With manga, looking up words/kanji (I didnt use kanjitomo) was so tedious I didn't actually get through much text. But texthookers sped it up so much, it was like another world. I probably read more Mako Hunter in 2 days then I did manga in 2 months.

>>144710054
No problem. Although I don't see why you consider it amusing or interesting. Everything repeats. You talk with IRL people in IRL conversations and it is the same boring topics, the same inane pleasantries everyone uses. You go to other threads on 4chan, there's the same memes, the same style of posts, the same arguments about best girls using the same reasons. You read porn games and they repeat the same archetypes, the same general structure and ideas for plots and generic lines thrown in to fill up line space. What do you expect, each and every line to be a unique, invigorating, new experience of creativity, a collection of geniuses constantly generating new and fresh ideas and opinions? 笑わせるな！

>>144710054
Is this pasta?

>>144710272

Sounds like

Im going to read yotsuba for the first time /djt/
Anything I should be aware of?

>>144709252
>Does it not have sound?
it does but i don't pay attention to it

it actually does have furigana as well but its tiny and blends in with the background so i didn't notice it :^)

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ねぇねぇDJT、ポップクイズ！
テーブルゲームとか、テーブルトークとかの板があるか？
もしそうなら、タイトルは？

>>144710272
>>144710295
I would be incredibly happy if my post became pasta because in that case it would join the infinite loop.
>>144710267
It's mainly the back and forth that makes me laugh. Yeah, people repeat themselves. Because what they're repeating has a service. Okay, a guy posts about his waifu. He wants to express love. Okay, people talk about boring topics. They want to be polite. Okay, someone posts a meme. They want to be funny. Okay. But people repeating themselves, and then getting a repeated response? Now that's funny. That's two people engaging over and over, of their own will, in an endless battle. It's comical. Thinking of the service, is comicla. Why would two people, of their own will, repeat the same posts to each other? In a serious discussion? Why would two people repeatedly type up the same posts in an argument that's been held over and over? What are they thinking? Do they know they're in a loop? Do they think what they're saying is meaningful, and will change something? If they knew they were looping would they stop? It's really funny to think about. Well, it's funny to me, because I was in this DJT loop, and am seeing it continue, a year without me, it's still continuing, same thing. It's just plain funny.

>>144710498
/tg/

>>144710447
Walls of hiragana text with no kanji in them.

Where do you guys go to get manga raws? They seem practically impossible to find in non-complete-garbage quality.

>>144710501
I see your point. The idea is that arguments, normally, are to convince people of things, whereas ours consist of the same points repeated over and over futilely, in the knowledge we'll never succeed in convincing the other party. There is some meaning though, namely that the people in these threads do change, as you left, and as new beginners join and start lurking. Each time the loop repeats, there might be a new person who's never seen it before, who reads each point as if it was freshly invented and carefully has to consider which side he chooses to believe in. You break the loop, you allow the other side free reign to spread their arguments unrebutted, that beginner is going to see their thoughts as if they were unquestioned fact, which is of course unforgivable. And that's, at least partly, why the loop continues, and will probably continue to continue until the thread dies.

It is pretty funny now I think about it.

>>144707728

Is that the bad guy in Amane's route?

Sachi best girl by the way.

>>144710635
はい！１００ポイント得る

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Something strange happened. I put off doing my reps for a really long time today, telling myself I didn't have the energy, and was almost ready to just go to bed without finishing them, but barely managed to push myself telling myself I'd just rush through them as quickly as possible and go straight to bed.

Not only did I do my usual amount of cards much, much faster than usual, but somehow it felt like pushing myself to do them quickly made it easier. I thought that doing them as quickly as possible would be more mentally straining, but it was as if letting myself throw out the first association that came to mind freed me of the noise of all the uncertain associations that I usually go through before I arrive at one I'm confident in.

Can anyone relate to this, or am I talking nonsense?

>>144710447
Use the Reading Pack html file

For some reason the import function on Rikaisama has stopped working for me. When I press the hotkey it plays the audio but there's no popup in the bottom right and it hasn't added any cards. I tried restarting both Firefox and Anki but nothing changes. I haven't changed any settings since it was last working so I don't know what the issue could be.

>>144710501
What was the loop exactly?

>>144711074

Nah, that's very true. It is not always easy to get into that golden mindset but once you're in it you could probably do 1000 cards in one go.

>>144711412

Sometimes this happens to me and the only thing that works is restarting my PC. If even that doesn't work I have no suggestions.

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hahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha

>>144711486
the loop is where the world resets every sunday and i have to get to the hokora to save my memories before then so i can remain myself while everyone else remains the same

>>144711910
暇つぶし乙

>>144711910
Why even bother if you're just gonna fuck up this much?

You're just cluttering your brain and overloading yourself with information, this should just be considered the opposite of learning.

>>144711910
You need to spend more time watching anime and less time doing anki

what's ピッチピチ?

>>144711915
Untagged spoilers are against the rules.

>>144712444
if it was a spoiler to something then you drawing attention to it makes you just as guilty

Lets play a game
>May's fly
>Thanks for your running
>horned rabbit
>flowing stone

>>144712871
気にしないゲーム流石

伝説
神話

What's the difference?

>>144713034
the words themselves

>>144713034
Don't worry about it, it's just an example of nips bloating their vocab count to keep gaijins out of their country

>>144713034
This
>>144713136

>>144713136

Is the only reason nips still have an infinity alphabet due to not wanting filthy gaijin to learn it?

>>144713136
Same thing with English but it went through the opposite route: gaijin introduced them.

Fucking retarded zipper heads. Why can't they just learn english like the rest of the world instead of trying to act special with a 50,0000 character long alphabet?

Kanji isn't even that hard, why do people make such a big deal out of it?

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>字面だけで美味しい

I don't get it, what's this meant to imply?

>>144713914
that girl is literally a slut with a nice cunt

>>144713993
How do you get that from 字面?

>>144713713
Then we're gonna get anime with english dubs

>>144714018
He's trolling dude.

Whenever you get something like that you can always try a japanese dictionary:
http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/98822/meaning/m0u/

So, something along the lines of "from the looks of it" I guess.

>>144714018
Protip: ignore any post in DJT without capital letters.

>>144714223
Those still just say it's something about the kanji's feeling or literal meaning though, is he actually saying 欲求不満 has a delicious 字面 or something then?

>>144714223
from the looks of it you might as well just write "textually delicious" lmao

>>144714018
Personal experience, probably.

>>144714372
Check definition and example #2.
Impression you get from a sentence/word.

I'd guess something like:
（欲求不満の人妻の久しぶりしたのオマンコ）どおりの意味はオイシイねえ！？

But well, that's my guess.

>>144714639
「字面だけでオイシイねぇ!?」roughly translates to "arent you stoked to have me clear out those cobwebs baby"

>>144714781
Can confirm, am a doujin translator.

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>>144714781
That's fantastic. You should write porn.

I-if there's images I'd read it.

>>144714639
>Impression you get from a sentence/word.
表面的に示す意味 would mean more just the literal meaning of the kanji/phrase though wouldn't it?

>>144714781
>>144714884
Pls no troll bully, I just want to figure out what the dick this means, for my dick.

>>144714956
> mean more just the literal meaning
Why are you overthinking it?
Look at all the definitions and try to grasp the concept: impression of sentence, word, letter shape one gets.

Now try to imagine that and apply it to オマンコ.

You can attempt to get a (shitty) literal translation along the lines of "what I'm getting from my impression (of your オマンコ) alone is that this is delicious, right?" or you can take >>144714781's fitting translation for it.

grammar learning is so freaky, ill remember lines then suddenly know what they mean through the accent/slang

http://rocketnews24.com/2016/07/26/779362/

そのまま飛び出したような精巧さは、言うならばリアルの3次元に限りなく近い2.9次元！
its not 3d but 2.9d?

あふれかえるような人の中でも、売れてないところは売れてない unsellable things are unsellable?

>>144713034
i think the difference between the words is that of "legend" and "myth".. legend is a story that details an event that could've happened a long time ago and a myth is closer to do with creation of the earth, the universe...

伝説 I have been told is like a story that is passed down from generation to generation...famous tales of a legendary person like Musashi or someone like that.. don quxiote

神話 the first character in this compound is the one for god/deity and the second character is for story.. so I would guess it would be about shinto gods... along the same lines as the myths about greek gods

i may just grasping at straws but that's my guess at the difference

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Learned my 2000. kanji today. Only 4000 left to read a children book

>>144710925
Read it and find out.

Makina>Michiru>Sachi>Amane>Yumiko

>>144711910
That's pretty much my score everyday after I hit like 1500 words.

40% on my worst days and 70% on better days and 55% average

Still doing find imo

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>>144719901
step it up senpai

>>144713914
字面 means how the character/word/phrase(s) looks.
In this case it is supposed to denote 「欲求不満の人妻」.
And 美味しい is used in a slangy sense.

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What fonts do you guys use in Anki?
I've been using the IPA fonts (IPA Mincho for Vocabulary field aka kanji) because someone recommended them here, though I don't think I like it very much. They recommended them because handwriting recognition or something but to be honest I don't think I have many problems with that.

So what are some cool nice soft fonts?

>>144720819
I use Meiryo. Don't remember why I started using it.

>>144720819
Noto Sans CJK

i like demilight

>>144720819
if i used anki id use comic sans for my flashcards

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>怒るに怒れない
Can somebody explain this to me? I tried looking in DOJG for this construct but I couldn't find it. I assume he's saying that he can't get mad at her because of her innocent face, but I want to be sure in case I see this again.

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おはようおにいちゃん

カレーたべたい

いっしょにたべよ

チャンピオンがいいな

>>144721169
おなかいつも空いたね

>>144721164
I think there is an entry for it in the DOAJG but I can never find it when this question comes up. I think it means "can't get mad even though I want to"

>>144720819
The website for it is down at the moment but I really like VL Gothic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsBHaIpVo_4

Time to get more learned

>want to learn jap
>really don't feel like I should be importing weeb games anymore by the time the efforts would've paid off as I'll be like 25 and well on my way to being an actual scientist
should've done this sooner desu

>>144719971
Kazuki>the rest

>>144721586
Seems like a real creamy meemy kind of guy

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>>144721308
ありがとうございまーす！

I managed to find the right page in DOAJG. It's on page 408 and the meaning is pretty much what you said.

>>144721731
congrats now you cna continue your shit ass gal game

>>144721586
無駄に良い発音で草生えるｗｗｗ

>>144721731
Thanks for the page number. It comes up fairly often because it is used in the very first scene of Hanahira. I always thought it was strange that the first scene of the easiest VN contained advanced grammar.

Finishing reps after waking up is the best thing. I'm still a bit tired so I'm numb to the Anki pain, and then for the rest of the day I don't have to think about them!

>>144721833
Good job friend, you truly understand the ways of anki

Yo, got an Anki question.

So I fucked up while messing with a personal deck and ended up making 50 new/100 review cards my default and that's how I started the 2k/6k deck.

Both yesterday and today I ended up reviewing like 700 cards because I strived for perfection and recognizing the words right away without mistakes.

Is this shit gonna work or should I lower my card count? I've got time to kill so I don't mind spending an hour and a half on it.

Thanks senpaitachi.

>>144721972
Anki says I've seen 350 out of 5999 cards by the way.

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>>144721586
みみがいいおにいちゃんだ

むだにいいはつおんだね

SHI-RU-KA!

I am trying to find some listening/shadowing material to supplement my reading but its filled with blocks of English audio ughh what do ?

>>144722135
Get Audacity and cut out the English?

Any other place to check stroke order besides jisho.org?

>>144722292
Oh I'll show you a stroke order alright, probably not the kind you were expecting though

>>144721665
woops wrong choice dude asako #1

>>144721972
> 50 new/100 review cards
>100 review
50 new cards will end up being about 550-600 reviews per day.

If you've really limited anki to 100 review cards per day you should remove that limit immediately.

>I ended up reviewing like 700 cards
Please don't say you ended up needing to review each card 7 times...

>>144722361
im still waiting for the punchline on this

>>144722390
Not the only thing you're gunna be waiting for when I'm done with you if you catch my drift

>>144720356
>1467622624746.jpg
Why not post yours kouhai?

>>144722135
check out "breaking into japanese literature" by giles murray. book contains parts from soseki and akutgawa

"read real japanese" has a few editions with different short stories. the speech is much faster than murray's. the audio from read real japanese series and breaking into japanese literature is in japanese only.. no english. Murray has a second more advanced book but that one doesn't have audio

you can find an older Japanese man reading no longer human on you tube
heres the first part : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TyI1lgIv3Y&index=1&list=PLN6srLJBWup4ZhtUC2SaYTwf34kCv4kyC

here's the transcript http://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/000035/files/301_14912.html

what kind of material are you using now that has the English audio blocks?

>>144722386
I pressed again on every card if I couldn't get it correctly without thinking.

Not sure how to approach the Anki learning process to be honest.

>>144722457
>They're still waiting for something, after you are finished.

This sounds like you're a premature ejaculator.

>>144722386
>50 new cards will end up being about 550-600 reviews per day
It's more like about 1000. I did 60 for some time and I had like 1200 reviews.
In the Anki manual is a formular; new cards * 20 = total reviews

>>144722681
I was going more for a corrupting you and leaving you craving more of my dick kinda theme but I'll admit that wasn't one of my best, I thought the first one was sufficient enough either way

>>144722562
>I pressed again on every card if I couldn't get it correctly without thinking.
No shit you're going to fail all of them if you're just starting. Give yourself 5-10 seconds to recognise the card at least.
Don't worry about being perfect, just try and understand the card and then rate it.

Learning 50 and reviewing 100 is pretty pointless. You'll only see cards once in a blue moon.

>>144722734
Hmm, I thought it was 10-12 with sufficient accurate answers.

>>144722361
that's still not an answer

>>144722971
Why would you even need anywhere other than Jisho

>>144722780
maybe theres a anki deck for good one liners

>>144723006
maybe he doesnt trust the stroke orders on a site run by insufferable weebs

>>144723043
I highly doubt any of the stroke orders on Jisho would be inaccurate

>>144723085
i agree but some people have principles that they will live by no matter what

>>144722812
Got you senpai. I only really did the radicals deck before and that was on Anki's default settings so I don't really know shit about how it's meant to be done.

>>144723006
alternate brush font drawing

>>144723043
maybe you're correct, I'm not looking for translation just kanji stroke order, the site can be Chinese for all I care as long as the stroke order is correct by Japanese standards and has a simple search feature.

>>144723194
im waiting for you to figure out search terms using jisho so you can use them to google a real authentic japanese site so i can laugh at the irony

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おせんたくするから

よごれたのぜんぶだして

はやく

>>144723194
>Trusting the kanji stroke order on a Chinese site more than Jisho

>>144723301
just as easy to ask here to see what alt site others may use, I don't need all the rudeness, I thought this was a helpful place for fellow learners, sheesh buddy

>>144723406
As I said it's more about seeing different brush fonts, they can be drawn out like jisho or just step by step stagnant pictures.

>>144723406
Kanji derives from Chinese.

You learn Japanese to watch your waifu games in the ORIGINAL language, so it makes sense to learn the stroke order from the ORIGINAL language.

>>144723460
sorry for the rudeness its not my intention *bows deeply*

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I asked around here for Lisp programming resources in Japanese a few weeks ago and some cool-ass anon posted a Visual Novel/game that teaches Lisp programming in Japanese. But of course, I forgot to bookmark it. Does anyone know the name of it?

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>>144723746
>programming in japanese

>>144723746
That "cool-ass anon" here, watch the anime 魔法少女リリカルなのは and I'll tell you.

>とても面倒見がよい善人
Isn't よい a noun? Can it also be a prefix? Implying it's 余意
http://www.monogatari-series.com/bakemonogatari/chara/c05.html
Second sentence

>>144723746
That "cool ass-anon" here, watch the anime 中二病でも恋がしたい! and I'll tell you.

>>144724239
"面倒見がよい" is an expression, the よい at the end is an I adjective that means good, the same as いい, and it's just modifying 善人

>>144724395
wow I'm stupid it even pops up with rikaisama. Thanks kind /a/non

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>tfw mined 500 words today

>>144724485
>tfw too afraid to start mining so I just continue to do core while reading
I'm just too used to example sentences, voice and having multiple vocab with the same kanji appear close to each other at this point..

>>144724529
Why not just do both to ease yourself into it if you feel like that

>>144724054
I don't even watch anime anymore. Full-time AKB48 wota now.
>>144723841
The resources being in Japanese. Like Khan Academy but done by Nihongonaikokujintachis

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あたしがおもうに

おにいちゃんはくさい

ずぼし？

>真面目な人間が真剣にボケようとすると、こうなってしまうのだろうか？

What's ボケよう here? Or, what does it mean at all?

>>144725002
read tae kim

http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/try

>>144725002
try to do

>>144724931
そだよ
明日は家で検査だから今日は私に掃除しましたよ

>>144725023
>>144725033
But what does ボケ actually mean in this context, it shows multiple weird definitions (grow senile, to be blurred). Or foolish?

Serious/dilligent people try to ??

>>144725155
Depends on the context n shit

>>144725155
play stupid

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>>144725155
だいたいひだりがボケで

みぎがツッコミだよ

I'm done with RTK and finishing TK's grammar guide.
What now? Should I plow through the core 6k, or do core 2k and start mining from some simple vn straightaway?

>>144725677
What is "mining"

I thought 2k/6k was mining in itself.

>>144725677
Get like a thousand words or so into core 2k and start reading, then mine while doing the rest of the 1k core words

>>144725712
Mining is making your own anki deck out of the vocab that you encounter while reading

How are you supposed to do anki?
Do you only get what the kanji meanings or the on/kun readings aswell?

or do you leave the readings for later when you start reading shit?

>>144725824

Shit that came out unreadable.
In short, do you bother to memorize the readings or only the meaning?

>>144725844
Usually you do anki on a vocabulary basis, not a kanji basis.

So when a vocab word pops up you study the aspects of the kanji which relate to that particular word. Don't just memorize a list of readings for each kanji. Just study the reading that's used as you encounter new vocabulary.

>>144725716
Not quite enough time for this, but if I can start at the 1k threshold then I'll just do whole thing, and start with vns after that. Thanks, mate.

>>144725155
"Play boke" as in boke and tsukkomi.

>>144725677
how long did RTK take you? did you use the community stories for the plots part or did you make your own up?
I wish heisig didn't make that hand chapter so long... 100+ kanji

what kanji did you have the most trouble remembering?

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Anyone knows why my E2A spits <br/>s at the end of every entry?

>>144726220
You're supposed to do a little shuddering motion every time you come to one

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>>144726233
thanks アノンくん!!

>>144726182
71 days, to be exact. Most of the time I used one of the top 2 community stories, often adding a twist that made remembring the story easier for me - adding things realted to my life or shows / games I like, but sometimes I made up my own: with anime or vn characters that I've come to like and remember (休 as Shizuru from Rewrite RESTing under a tree, for instance).

These were really annoying: 乃 及 吸 扱 丈 史 吏 更
And I didn't like remembering "easy ones" with few strokes in them. Somehow a complex story was easier for me to remember, than a lousy short one.

My advice: don't rush when you create a story. Sometimes I was dead tired after 9 hours at work, and wanted to quickly finish things up with Anki, and made weak, short stories that didn't stick at all. Next day i had no idea what the story was supposed to be even after seeing a failed kanji. If you create your own stories do it right. Take a minute, and imagine, visualize the scene. Remembering them as "text passages" doesn't work well with more complex ones.

>>144726554
>Somehow a complex story was easier for me to remember, than a lousy short one.
Not same anon but I agree with this so much
I did 50 kanji a day for 25 days and then burned out for a month (I did my reps, just almost no new kanji)
I started again recently and 1250 kanji in, gonna aim to finish it quick

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were コンビに職員 always this melodramatic

>>144722292
http://www.yamasa.org/ocjs/kanjidic.nsf/SearchKanji3

>>144708535
How is it run? Can we pirate it somehow?

>>144727880
Server side.

Are there any downsides to learning animal and food names in kanji?

>>144728034
サバー側くそ

>tfw can read and understand kanji but don't know how to pronounce them.

How fucked am i?

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What anki decks is everyone using?
I'm kinda lost on what decks to use, there are so many.

Currently using 2k6k vocab, a radicals and kanji deck.
Thinking about a grammar and stroke order deck.

What exactly is the anon core 5k and dojg deck can anyone explain it quick?

>>144728247
I took some chinese courses in college. Sometimes I run into Kanji and can recognize what it means, but it doesn't really help my study.

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the fish oil guy has gotten me addicted to supplements. I now take calcium, multi-nutrients, lysine along with fish oil pills now.

>>144728461
fish oil is a meme and bad for you

>>144728247
Chink doesn't mean jack shit here, don't think you're some sort of special snowflake.

Read the OP, fuck off, and learn some damn Japanese from the ground up.
Then come back

Do your reps.

>>144728461
なんでやねん蛋白質に中毒してない？

>>144728447
>>144728539

You misunderstood.

I learned the meaning of kanji in japanese but never learned the pronunciation.

So I can perfectly read words with kanji in them But i couldn't speak those words or understand them if spoken to me.

Anki fucked my shit up.

>>144728607
Fuck off Chink shit.

>>144728461
That's a lot to take every day. I used to follow the adderall method but that ended up being too troublesome so now I just take some meth when planning a big study session.

Worked out being a lot cheaper.

>>144728607
I see, I misunderstood you. Let me rephrase.

Read the OP and learn some damn Japanese from the ground up, because you're basically fucked.

My condolences.

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>>144728657
>so now I just take some meth

>>144728518
But it's mercury free.
>>144728581
I like feeling like a robot, or a computer, who must refuel on specific components to achieve maximal function.

>>144728291
>What exactly is the anon core 5k and dojg deck can anyone explain it quick?

Anon Core 5K is an alternative to Core 2k/6k made with a better frequency sampling of the language, but it lacks images and audio, and it's significantly less widely used.

The DoJG deck is a rip of A Dictionary of Japanese Grammar. Some people use it for extra exposure and don't care about getting things right or wrong. Some people use it to memorize grammar like they memorize words. If you want to memorize grammar like you memorize words, you need to edit the deck's format appropriately.

>>144728461
Just smoke mint.

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>>144724485
this is how it feels reading 魔法使いの夜. i'll thank myself a year from now for drowning in this shit now

>>144728657
yeah, nutrients are quite a price. Ive never done any illicit drugs before, but I remember hearing about this kind that's specifically for studying, that they mention on /sci/, and family guy did an episode about brian taking a studying drug that was meant for stewies ADHD.

Dont do drugs though.

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>>144728956
huffing mint? That sounds interesting. Maybe I could get some raw mint from the spice section. Ive heard mint is good for taking tests,

>>144729083
Do you live somewhere that you have access to a lawn or wild ground that you can plant stuff in?

If you plant a normal mint plant there it will literally take over a minimum of a four-square-meter area. It's basically a "weed" as much as dandelions are.

I remember someone reading 天の塔 here. If you're here, is it good? It looks pretty interesting and I feel like picking it up

>>144729174
I don't know, I mean. The whole point of taking supplements to me, is that's its quick and efficient. But growing mint.... Could I grow it ontop of my desk?

>>144728461
Can you tell me about this fish oil guy?

>>144729417
Probably. Get a bin of dirt, put it in front of a window, transplant some mint into it and watch the mint grow.

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this is how everyone remembers their kanji, right?

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>>144729882
sure man

I've gone through Core10k, what's your method of obtaining new vocab after it? I feel like I should continue using Anki and its SRS system, if you're still using Anki then how do you collect and sort your new vocab?

>>144729882
I think I did that with 省く because I kept forgetting what it meant

>>144730315
rikai with real time import, instructions are in the guide

>>144730315
You're reading, right?

>>144730667
I am.
What I meant was, Core10k extracted 8.5k most used Kanji from a corpus of newspapers, so how do you guys sort your vocab into decks? Expressions in one, idioms, new vocab related to whatever fields like science or whatever.

>>144730824
Just put it all in the same deck.

What are some actually good light novels?

>>144730999
キノの旅

>>144730999
Are you a cripple or mentally handicapped? Read the fucking guide you fucking moron.

>>144731034
im def giving that a go after yotsuba

>>144731034
I need something a little more challenging than that, キノの旅 is basically a graded reader.

>>144731083
Show me where in the guide there is a list of good light novels.

>>144731233
Spice and Wolf next perhaps?

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>>144730999
マルドゥック・スクランブル

>>144724529
You do know you can set up rikaichan autoimport to pull the whole sentence you import from into the example field? I actually find the example sentences I get this way much more useful than most of the core example sentences.

>>144731912
how

>>144731934
With the power of love

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>>144732182
Thanks, that really helped me out!

(doesn't get it at all)

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>>144731934
You need rikaisama. Go to the settings, find this tab, and set it up like this (or figure out how the tags work if you wanna set it up your own way). Then download the Anki addon that you see a link to in the settings page, and set up your default new cards for your mining deck to have the same field names as what you specified in the field names field. Then you can just hover over the word you wanna import and press R.

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>>144732182

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>>144732266
>no $a
>you'll never hear a american male synth garble 'noaudio'

why live

>>144732266
yeah but how do you get the sentence...

Am I the only one that really only ever looks at the reading of words when doing anki?

With the exception of kana only adjectives and onomatopoeia, 99.9% of the time I know what the meaning of a word is forever after seeing it a few times, but for some words I can get the reading wrong over and over again no matter how many times I see it

Anki has really just become a reading practising program for me at this point

>>144732594
Have you tried saying the words out loud every time they come up in anki?

なんJから来たンゴwww
よろしくニキー

>>144732657
Yeah I always do that

>tfw put 7000 hours into LoL before I quit
Man if I used that time to learn Japanese I'd be kanji master now. Oh well, better late than never

>>144732572
The $s tag. If you look at my picture, I have the $s tag as my 3rd tag (not counting $t since you just use that as a separator), so it goes into the Context field, since that's the third field name I put in. Not sure how I can make it any more clear than this.

>>144732747
>Playing LoL

I think missing out on Japanese is the least of your worries

>>144732747
>7000 hours
Jesus dude.
I feel bad about my 900 hours in Dota before I quit.
Glad I did though.

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>>144732661
くそったれ！最低な寄生虫！人でなしな豚！この野郎！！くっそっ！

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>>144732747
But how many hours did you put into shitposting here?
Bet you could have learned Japanese twice.

>>144732747
>he fell for it too
at least we got out alive

>>144732870
It would be better to be dead than be alive with the memory of playing that awful shit

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>>144732791
I didn't even get good at the game in all that time. But now I have more time to procrastinate instead of learning Japanese.

>>144732824
いかんのか？

>>144733215
できない

>>144732824
>>144733232
やめて！仲良くして！

>>144732747
What rank were you when you quit?

>>144733355
すまんな

>>144733603
Master

>>144733650
Sure, especially if it covers newer games as well, like Kiseki.

>>144733650
Maybe. Preference would be for text hookable stuff

>>144733650
No, you love the dick

>>144733650
I played

All Tales of games
FFX | X-2
Atelier Sophie
Persona 4 The Golden
Dragon Quest VII
Genei Ibunroku #FE

All of them were easy

>>144733650
Just include how fully voiced it is and whether it's hookable and you got my interest.

>>144733633
Well at least you're not one of those retards that spends thousands of hours doing the same thing without improving

>>144733821
I concur.

The quality of some people's posts just never increases.

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>can read and understand what's being said
>still can't think of this language as an actual language and just a puzzle
>think it would be better if it was just in english

when does this awful feeling go away

>>144734057
Give it another year or two of reading and doing your reps every day and you should be fine

>>144734057
You should probably put off reading Nasu's works if you don't want it to sound like a puzzle.

the vast majority of core6k words are useful

>>144707900
Using anki to learn vocab.

>>144734440
Every word in the language is useful

>>144734488
nah, even core itself has some useless words. theyre just very few

>>144734488
鱲子

very useless

>>144734575
I've got 204000 pieces of evidence that proof you wrong

>>144734575
By posting it here and having it read by all of us, you have made it useful

>>144734852
>If its in the source than its useful.
What did he mean by this?

>>144734852
Some words are more useful than others. Treating each word the same way, i.e. mining literally everything, is inefficient.

>>144734909
If you have to read the word at some point after learning it, it's useful.

>>144734958
Your face is inefficient to my goal of reaching orgasm

逆ギレ

>>144735112
Where does the ギレ come from?

>>144735163
キレる？

hello i am nihon

>>144735261
もしもしアノンです

>>144735180
Yeah probably. Thanks, I only checked for ぎれる on Jisho

>>144735261
I am sanbon

>>144735261
こんにちは 私は英国

>>144735112
I wish we had this word in other languages. I've seen it happen so fucking often when someone tries to hide their bad conscience behind anger.

腹上死

>>144735345
I come across at least five Japanese words everyday that I wish were in English

English is pretty awful really, at least we can leave it all behind and head towards glorious nihongo

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ここはえげつないシモネタを一発やってやりましょう

>>144727778
ありがとうございました。

>>144735382
The most common readings for those kanji are belly, up and death. Strangely informative

I don't suppose there'd be any subs for New Game anywhere would there? I want to watch it but it's taking me like an hour plus to get through one episode with all the pausing and repeating I have to do

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>>144735997
Fuck off Xavier.

>>144736066
>watch it raw
>watch it english-subbed because you'll notice the things you didn't understand the first time

>>144736066
If subs aren't here http://kitsunekko.net/dirlist.php?dir=subtitles%2Fjapanese%2F
they usually don't exist.

>>144736127
That's a good point, I try to understand everything the first time otherwise it frustrates the fuck out of me, but it would be way quicker doing it that way

I'm watch a series and a character's name in the subtitles is "Daichi", but when his female friend addresses him, it sounds like だいちょん or だいちゃん. I think maybe she's saying だいちさん but it's just said quickly. Does that seem right? Sorry this is a pretty bad, vague question without actually hearing it, I'm trying to work on my listening skills

>>144736261
Just give the whole episode a run before the subs actually come out, it's a good opportunity since you can't cheat and turn on the subs. It's up to you whether to run through it, pause occasionally or even replay sentences in slow motion to try and get every last syllable out.

When you compare your understanding to the actual sub, the results might surprise you.

>>144736401
She's probably trying to live up to her image of a cute anime girl and saying it cutesy like

>>144736401
>だいちゃん
Possible
>だいちさん
Probable

I'd have to hear it myself though.

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You guys read Monobeno yet?

>>144736788
I would if it wasn't so fucking long. Rather just play other things with my speed right now

>>144736831
>I would if it wasn't so fucking long.
He was talking about Monobeno not 私のチンポ語

>>144736972
I don't get it. Are you complementing my penis length anon? Y-You too.

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>>144736972

>>144736559
>>144736760
Thank you, I'm thinking it's だいちさん too

>>144737022
>tfw no one will ever compliment me on the length of my penis in Japanese.

>>144736788
I started it about 2 years ago and am still not even through the first route (Sumi route).
Totally plan on finishing it one day though

>>144737503
jap girls are too embarrased to call it by real name so they regularly say 大きの, don't worry anon

>>144737910
I like that you assumed the reason I wouldn't get complimented was that I haven't had sex with a Japanese girl. Not that my penis isn't worth complimenting. Thanks though anon.

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>>144738153
えーそれチンポなの？！

>>144738330
I'm*

Fucking ESLs

>>144738330
Just embrace it and start jacking off to cuck porn like the rest of us. Japanese cuck porn, of course... There's tons of NTR out there.

>>144738330
just fly to japan
at worst you will have the average japanese penis

Time to read my first VN. Starting with はなひらつ! Wish me luck lads

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>>144738330
Look here, the tip of the choco banana barely fits into the japanese's girls mouth. There's nothing to worry about anon.

I just wanted to post this webm

>>144738330
embrace masochism.
then you can be happy again.

>>144738383
Aren't NTR and cuck different genres?

I was always under the impression cuck had a more voluntary connotation while NTR was more forced

>>144738504
you are right

>>144738486
>I just wanted to post this webm
You did well to do so my friend

>>144738383
>like the rest of us
ｎｔｒｆａｇ 逝ってよし

>>144738504
Kind of.
Cuck implies that you are consenting to someone fucking your wife. However, the fantasy is that your consent doesn't matter, so a lot of cuck porn panders to this by having the guy cry in a corner and begging her to stop.

Similarly NTR just means that your girl gets taken from you. Whether that's by force or irresistible temptation varies.

Since this is the jap thread here's some trivia, NTR stands for netorare, or 寝取られ.

is there any better motivator than your dick

eroge is the best tool for reading practice

>>144738739
I like food and sleep

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>>144738921
Speak for yourself

I much prefer the 萌え aspect of Japanese shit and that hardly involves your dick, only your heart

If I'm using ITH, and have already attached onto the VN, how do I grab text?

>>144738921
>we're all
No seriously, will you please stop including others in your insecurities?

>>144738504
>NTR was more forced
寝取らせ

>>144739078
There's a "copy to clipboard" setting in options
if it's not grabbing text automatically after being attached, you need to set the h-code which can probably be found through google
If you use JParser in translation aggregator you can have an instant way to check unknown words which is quicker than pasting in browser and using rikaisama

>>144736788
>happy end with all addons is longer than War and Peace that I skipped in high school due to laziness
Yeah, fuck that.

>>144739212
thank you

>>144740050
>skipping out on tolstoy
haha wow

>>144738727
...which means "taken by sleeping with" (寝取られ).

Porn isn't bad as a reading material, I think I learned a LOT by reading/translating kinky talk but it gets stale very fast.
The usual ones, at least, not the ones with PLOT (mostly old ones).

>>144740050
I don't believe any high school would require someone to read War and Peace.

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what does this last kanji mean?

>>144740693
It's chinese, you must have downloaded the wrong version

>>144740397
I know, I know. Thinking about going back and reading everything I missed instead of wasting time on generic porno cartoons.

>>144740599
Russian ones do.

>>144740693
両. It means "both"

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>2500~ words into core
>hey I should try this mining thing
>133 words in one hour

>>144740693
Why is there English in the box on the right? Don't tell me you downloaded from nyaa

>>144740780
>>144740807
i meant but thank you for your worry.

>>144740815
Now you just have to keep doing it for 2-3 years

>>144740570
>but it gets stale very fast
You're better off reading a more sophisticated manga that has lewd stuff every other chapter. There's a lot of non porn manga that go as far as showing pubic hair.

>>144740829
is it not supposed to be like that? If not, I'll look for a better one.

>>144740815
>starting to mine 2500 words in
How? Why?
/djt/ keeps telling beginners to read and mine early on, every single thread. Anki drones get made fun of all the fucking time. Why did you not mine earlier? Please tell me you did read, but without mining or something

>>144740871
That is how it is supposed to be.

>>144740864
Or how about just reading actual books instead?

Spending 2 weeks in Japan with jap gf
Rec me cool places in Akihabara

>>144740904
Yes I do read every day for multiple hours. I didn't mine earlier because most words I'd mine would pop up in core anyways.

>>144740947
Not enough lewd.

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>>144740947
Because no lewd pictures?

>>144740963
the ero game store, maid cafe