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Not sure CGI will handle this scene properly.
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>>144667522
>CGI
>doing anything justice
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>>144667522
Wait that's not even AT the tower m8 it comes way after!
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>>144667522
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There are a lot of scenes I don't think will be handled well.

I'm curious how they'll handle the huge orgy
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>>144670033
most likely they'll obscure it by mist from the fire & smoke everywhere
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>>144667522
>implying they'll get to taking down ganishka in 24 episodes
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The show will probably end when guts gets the berserker armor.
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>>144667522
I don't know why but seeing her like this get's my blood boiling, I guess the manga didn't really hit home despite the rape by birdman & all her friends dying the worst way possible

TL;DR Griffith really really messed up someone's psychic
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>>144670644
I thought it'd end just after the tower crumbles and everyone goes their separate ways.
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>>144670730
It's ending when Ganishka is killed IIRC.
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>>144670730
Doesn't really make sense why they'd show Shierke in the first episode though.
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>>144670879
What a bizarre place to end it. Tower of Conviction arc's ending is way more fitting. Ganishka dying sets up way too much to end on.

>>144670904
Really? I don't remember that.
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>>144670879
that's awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3r91JrzW4w
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How many seconds of flashback Casca rape do you think will be in the next episode?
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>>144670955
Well when she gets kidnapped by the heretics, she has a flashback. So probably another 10 or so seconds.
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>>144670532
remember kurenai
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>>144667522
thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIoILN_KrhU
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>>144670730
I don't remember that?
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>>144671622
Well the hookers go their own way, with Nina leaving that group with her boyfriend. Azan goes on his own to report what happened at the tower. Farnese and Serpico leave but decide to follow Guts but Guts went his own way before they could join up. Same thing with Isidro, he wanted to follow Guts but wasn't with him when Guts and Casca stole that Kushan horse and left.
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I wonder if Zodd is going to look like complete shit.
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>>144671741
doesn't matter, some meet in falconia, guts and al. get to the elfland
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>>144671829
Well yeah. They go their own ways temporarily. Its a good note to end something on. No real cliff hanger but it leaves us with a feeling of accomplishment and the reader is eager for what comes next.
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>>144671308
my fuckin jam
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http://www.evil-genius.us/2016/07/berserk-345/
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>>144672092
Oh shit, thanks m8
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>>144671889
i still wait for caska to die. It would break them all so fucking much
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>>144672275
>Guts triggers another Eclipse
Goddamn it
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>>144672303
don't you think it's kinda inevitable? with that symbiotic demon armor pushing him over the edge it would be just awesomely depressing.
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>>144672092
yeeeee boy
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>>144671930
it always reminds me of this from Samurai X

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrJYBW7uYH0
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>The year is 2016
>I still want to fuck Isma
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>>144672275
I don't think Casca will die before she gets her head fixed. Until then, its going to be smooth sailing for the Guts party. Afterwards, literally anything can happen. I doubt Casca will kill herself or even die at this point though. Guts and Casca's magic toddler will probably prevent that.
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>>144672657
But she's a mermaid m8 I doubt she even has bones down there
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>>144672092
Easily the most important panel from this chapter.
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>>144672657
Hugs, not fugs.

Besides, Isidro struck a flag on that ass
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>>144672844
Yeah, it really made it click in my head why Guts hasn't shared his past with his companions.
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>>144672720
if caska remembers it all it would be glorious if the'd find her with her wrists cut
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>>144672917
>Wanting Guts to be this sad

4chan is for humans, fuck off femto
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>>144672917
Please no. So many fucking years of build up for that?
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>>144667522
>The CGI in Berserk can handle anything properly except butchering the material
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>>144672946
I started to read this manga because it was depressive as fug. I'd like it to continue in such way.
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>>144672952
eeeexactly. Nihilism everywhere, depression everywhere and Guts can freely fall to the dark side to kill Femto and the Hand at last.
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>>144672991
>>144673021
Its like you people don't even understand character arcs and story structure. Its too late to fall back into "everything is awful and will continue to be so for Guts until he dies and goes to hell and is absorbed by a mass of suffering souls until he loses all sense of self"
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>>144672917
but she has NO reason to off herself
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>>144672917
>>144672946
>>144672952
>>144673084
>not wanting Berserk to be grimdark
Maybe you've forgotten what you're reading.

Here's the thing. It has become apparent that something will have to get Guts back into the fight. Ever since he set off to find Casca Guts' arc has been about giving up his obsession with vengeance, and he's finally getting to the point where that's becoming realistic ( >>144672844 ). He has a new family, he even has a chance to get Casca back, and he's realizing that this could be his new reason for living.

That being said, we know that's not going to happen. It's obvious that the end game of the manga is Guts killing Griffith. One way or another, that's just what has to happen. Guts needs to go on a completely uninhibited rampage, sacrificing his body and his humanity, and be literally consumed (via the armor) by his berserker rage.

So that being said, how do we get there from where we are? Something needs to motivate Guts to get back into the fight. Obviously we're moving further away from that right now. Obviously it's not going to be his concern for the world at large, because he's never cared about that. Griffith needs to hit him where he lives.

There are two possible motives:

1. Vengeance. In this scenario, Griffith kills Casca. There's basically nothing else that Griffith could do to reignite Guts' thirst for vengeance. I mean, who cares if he kills Isidro or Schierke or something? That's not dramatic, not Shakespearean enough in its tragedy.

2. Heroism. Griffith levels some kind of impossible to ignore threat against Guts' new family, including Casca. Maybe he captures them, maybe he sends endless assassins in the night to kill them all. But Guts is forced to take the fight to Griffith.

Either could work, but the tone of the manga DOES seem to be shifting more toward the latter.
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>>144673361
Meant to post this one.
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>>144673361
I agree, I just want Guts to be happy and refuse to deal with reality
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>>144673413
Well, just so you know, he's PROBABLY gonna sacrifice himself so that the others can eventually attain happiness, and never actually have peace himself. That would be the most thematically fitting, anyway.
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>>144673447
N-no!

This will happen except there will be 0 retards in the shot
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>>144673337
yet.
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>>144673361
Guts can have his revenge without necessarily needing vengeance to drive him.
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>>144673361
>2. Heroism. Griffith levels some kind of impossible to ignore threat against Guts' new family, including Casca. Maybe he captures them, maybe he sends endless assassins in the night to kill them all. But Guts is forced to take the fight to Griffith.

That is probably what will happen. I think it might be more along the lines of Griffith's kingdom will come crumbling down due to the other Godhand and all the circumstances surrounding the place. Falconia being destroyed will probably be the catalyst for Guts to come and save everything. The Elf king would probably persuade Guts to do it or something along those lines

Berserk started grim as fuck. Then the Golden Age arc brought some levity to the series. The Eclipse really ruined that and it was plunged back into grimdark and hopeless territory. Things have stayed extremely grim in the world with the Tower of Conviction arc and the Kushan invasion and their methods being gruesome as fuck. Now that things have a glint of hope with Falconia being a "paradise" and Guts and co reaching Elfhelm, its time for shit to come crashing down again. Only this time, I think the people who will suffer the most are the blind sheep led by the white hawk. The story has a way of showing that people ignorant of things going on usually end up getting the short straw. The Band of Hawk was all ignorant of the warnings about Griffith and his behavior and look where it got them.

In any circumstance, I think Guts will only kill Griffith. He might have to kill Slan along the way but I think Skull Knight will take out the rest of the Godhand.
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>>144673582
See option two.
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>>144673361
I don't think Guts is taking the Berserker armour all the way to the endgame. He'll probably get pushed all the way to the limit and do some kind of video game purification shit on it and clear its curse or just get a set that doesn't send him to the dark side, and the new armour will like retardedly good and take Miura a week to draw a panel.
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>>144673447
What if it's just a straight out bad ending?

Griffith wins.
Fin.

t. Miura
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>>144673617
Miura wants to end on a positive note. Here's hoping he isn't lying.
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>>144673617
so like yu yu hakusho or that one darkman manga
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>>144673617
Actually, I see the most interesting ending as one where there's no final conflict, or at least no final conquest. There's a philosophical argument to be made that Griffith has done bad things but is not evil, and a pragmatic argument to be made that everybody including Guts should just accept that the world is now best off with Griffith at the helm. Personally I think it would be amazing if Griffith and Guts just kinda buried the hatchet, met and discussed everything to the point where they fully understand each other, then let bygones be bygones.

The reason I know this won't happen is because of stuff like Griffith sending those dudes after Rickert, and because of Guts saying that Griffith will always want greater power.
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>>144673715
How come Yuyu Hakusho was a bad ending? Unless I missed something, it ends with a sunset on a beach
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Where can I pick up the manga where the anime currently is?

I'd rather just ask really nicely here than go hunt for it myself and miss getting the best source.

Pretty please?
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>>144673721
I kind of see an ulterior motive to Griffith ruling Falconia. At the same time I think its all a ruse and shit will go bad any second, I think he might be doing something to save all humanity. He met with the Idea of Evil. It told him that it exists and is perpetuated by humanity's dark emotions. It's the Idea of Evil because humanities negative emotions greatly outweighed those that were positive. I think that Griffith might be trying to bring humanity together to change the Idea of Evil. After all, Falconia is the only really safe place left on earth, everyone is happy there, Apostles aren't ruling people and being cruel to everyone and instead are serving humanity by serving Griffith, and humanity has never been so united. Maybe Griffith's dream is so incredibly noble, that instead of just having a nation to rule for himself, he wants a nation to rule for everyone.

I imagine if this is the case, the rest of the Godhand are going to be pretty fucking butthurt and will try to ruin everything. It'd be cool as fuck to see Guts, Griffith, and Skull Knight team up to take out the rest of the Godhand.
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>>144673361
Guts will finally get sent back home to his time where he goes back to his job as a department store clerk and makes out with Casca's great great great etc granddaughter.
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>>144673919
Mangasee.co or bakabt but start from the beginning. No anime adaptation of it has covered everything and this season has skipped some EXTREMELY important and cool shit.
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>>144673919
Volume 16 chapter 151 is where the Conviction arc begins. The animu starts with a mish mash of all the arcs before that though.
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>>144673984
>>144673986
thanks, after clicking around, I think I'll start on chapter 88

I did read up to the moth girl part in the past but here's a good starting point for me
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>>144673934
I never actually read that chapter because it was cut by Miura for the tankobon.

I do think that Falconia waging war against the rest of the godhand is a very realistic possibility, he won't just reforge the human world but the Astral world as well. But at the end of the day, I think he'll be a villain, still doing all of this for his own machiavellian ends. It will become clear that all of the citizens of Falconia are actually his slaves, and he'll at least try to murder everybody that Guts loves.
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>>144674073
You should REALLY START AT THE VERY BEGINNING if you haven't. I can't stress that enough.
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>>144672844
>sacrificed all comrades in the name of his obsession and achieved it
Yeah he like, TOTALLY let it go, you guys.
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>>144674117
That's Guts speaking.
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>>144674096
Yeah, at the end of the day, I have no idea what Griffith's plans are. It could go a multitude of ways. I'd love to see the Dragonslayer sticking out of his chest though
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>>144674145
Oh ok, makes sense then.
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>>144674073
I'd recommend refreshing on the Black Swordsman prologue too if you don't want to do the whole GA arc.
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>>144674148
Agreed.
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There are so many characters now its hard to keep track.
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>>144674386
>guts is kenshirou
>griffith is oscar
Guy's a fucking genius.
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>>144673499

>don't talk to me or my wife's son ever again
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>>144673721
>no catharsis
>anti-climactic as fuck
>depression everywhere
seems legit
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>>144673361
my man.
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as for the overal lightened mood of the manga I really hoped that Rakshas would cut Erica in half. Rickerts motivation to kill Griffith and said Apostle would be amazing.
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>>144672657
who doesn't?
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Anyone got the image from the 2016 anime of Puck's feet going through Rickert's tools on the table?
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>>144672844
fuck you Guts
you're supposed to avenge the band of the hawk, not play witch shit
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>>144673721
>Griffith has done bad things but is not evil
He literally smiles like a mad man when he hears his assassination attempt succeeded and got an innocent child killed. He'd step on anything for his own desires without a second thought. That's as close as evil as you can get.
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>>144668544
>way after
>at the pace they're doing the anime
I don't give even 2 episodes until the tower part is finished
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>>144672092
Why do Evil Genius' translate it to Falcon and not Hawk? Dark Horse is Hawk, right?
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>>144667522
you're retarded if you think they are going to cover all the way to the boat in the anime

we will be lucky if we get to the berserker armour
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I just got into berserk i started watching after the golden age arc movies
Ive started on the manga
should i stick with this anime, or possibly watch the older anime
Or just stick to the manga cuz this CG is killin me
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>>144667522
No comment
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>>144670679
The CG makes even retards look more retarded.
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>>144680939
Old anime is just the movies + one episode that wasn't shown there but was retconned by the shit new show.

Just read the manga, it's super easy to find and great to look at.
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>>144681426
Farnese looks fucking awful holy shit. Guts looks alright but fuck.
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>>144677431
i can relate to this actually
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>>144680108
he explains it in one of the commentaries. "Taka" is jap word for hawk and falcon alike but with creation of Falconia (in katakana) it was clear that it was meant to be the Band of the Falcon from the start
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>>144672917
and I ttought I'm the only one! Thanks, internet, I've found my soulmate
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>>144670955
more is better
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>>144667522
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>>144685919
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>>144686113

You don't want to go that route with me fuckboy
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>>144685919
>shitty facebook meme with compression artifacts
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>>144673721
>The God of Evil itself comes down out of the sky and tells Griffith "you done it, my boy" and makes him into one of his five princes of Evil (tm)
>"There's a philosophical argument to be made that Griffith has done bad things but is not evil"
I'm fairly sure the entire point of the God Hand is that they're meant to illustrate the reasons why people commit evil acts, with Griffith/Femto being ambition. Arguing that Griffith isn't evil is like arguing Guts honestly ain't that mad about the eclipse: it runs counter to central parts of their charatcers.
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>>144687593
Femto: Ambition
Slaan: Lust
Konrad: Machinations
Void: ???
The other one: ???
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>>144689517
I'd say Ubik would be machinations, Konrad is a bit harder to figure out.

For Void it should be knowledge/wisdom becoming arrogance and self assurance, considering he's the one that always goes off about causality and fate the most.
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>>144673337
Isn't that Casca rather than FemGuts?
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>>144667522
As if they can handle anything right with this horrendous CGI.
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>>144673721
I don't think Guts will forgive him for what he's done. But then again, if he leaves Casca again, he will be leaving what's left of the BotH behind, for the, what, third time now?

So now he has an emotional conflict. I want to see how things will play out. Can't the next month come faster?
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>cutest waifu is a literal whore
FUCK YOU MIURA
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>>144691180
>>144689517
Konrad seems to represent plague and pestilence. I think he is less of a reason why people commit evil acts and more of a representation of the negative emotions that come with plague and pestilence.
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>>144671741
You forgot Jerome, m8.
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>>144694903
Oh right, he left with the hookers though.
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>>144674117
Why'd he slap him again?
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>>144694585
>secondaries
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>>144673361
>There are two possible motives
What about preventing the world from being fucked up?
Especially by the one that stopped Casca when she was asking for babies guts.
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>>144668310
I mean it worked well in the JoJo OP's, but that was because they actually cared when they made those.
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>>144694585
>born poor
>patriarchal society
There's literally nothing wrong with being a midland whore.
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>>144672818
onaholes don't have bones either.
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>>144695916
Made for fucking confirmed.
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>>144694961
It was the only thing to do to avenge his fallen comrades I think. since he wasn't their and couldn't take vengeance like Guts could, a slap and farewell was the most he could do.
Or that's what I got out of that speech afterwards.
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>>144694961

What would you do if your former commander, who already admited giving your former comrades as a sacrifice, is now very calm and collected and shows no remorse from what he did? Give him a kiss?

He won't full on attack him because he knows he wouldn't be able to kill him, but he'll at least try hitting him to vent some frustration.

Even Griffith himself seems to think that he deserves it, since he ordered for Rickert to be left alone. That, or he thinks nothing of the slap.

Probably the later. Always a fucking asshole.
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>>144696715
I thought he sent out that masked Apostle to kill Rickert.
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>>144696809
Nope. That apostle did that out of his own will. Because Griffith likes to surround himself with weirdos now.
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>>144696809
No, that was either something Locus ordered or the masked apostle acting on his own.
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>>144696715
The abyss needs lots of death and very dark emotions to create a Dragon's road. Griffith was linked to that event without even knowing it before.
Griffith did nothing wrong, and that's why he isn't reacting. He knows this sap isn't fair.
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>>144697214
That's bullshit, and I don't believe it.
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Anyone have the kotaku pic of some faggot saying "That's some damn good anime."?
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>>144694961
That's what autistic people do. It's to out his sexuality
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>>144673361
I think it's going to be some metal gear solid 4 shit where everyone guts has dealt with over the course of that manga will team up with guts to fight griffith and neo-band of the hawk
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>>144694961
griffith asks rickert if he still wants to help griffith achieve his dream (fuck knows what that is anymore) and rickert basically calls him a faggot and says that at least he made some sort of grave for the band of the hawk while griffith fucked off to do bullshit
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>>144673792
It wasn't really a bad ending, but he lost against Yomo
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>>144695058
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>>144689517
Void was a sage. For him, it's all about the wisdom.
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>>144695339
Not to mention the fact that they're just that - OPs. Trying to string together 3D and 2D sounds cool on paper until you see it in action, as in Berserk where it looks like trash.
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>>144667522
Not sure CGI will handle any scene properly.
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>>144673984
>>144673986
Get cancer and die for spoonfeeding a lazy anime-only moeshitter that refuses to even read from the beginning.
I wish you die in pain and your family gets butchered before your eyes.
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>>144667522
There's a reason they straight up animated Beast of Darkness, it would have looked absolutely fucking retarded with that CG
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>>144696873
Griffith is a weirdo so he should feel comfortable with other weirdos. He couldn't connect with normal humans, except for Guts but he isn't normal and some fans even speculate he might not be fully human (Zodd's son)
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>30 years in
>still no god hands fights
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Guts and Griffith die fighting, but his kingdom starts getting it's shit fucked up. Guts gets saved from the abyss by Skull Knight, who decides to take the fight to the IoE.

Regards, Miura
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>>144699969
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>>144700372
He kind of fought Slan
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>>144667522

Don't worry, they'll probably just skip it.
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>>144699969
>SK gave him hints on the shit he was in
>SK saved him from Crimson eclipse
>SK gave him the berserk armor
>SK saved Luca and knew the old mistress
>Zodd tries, whenever he can, to fight SK or Guts
Zodd's or SK's son?
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>>144700448
>he has a dick cannon
He fucked her, anon..
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>>144700585
Skull Knight is over like a thousand years old. Zodd is over 300.
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>>144699969
>>144700413
That half demon theory would be kinda disappointing, cause what makes guts guts is the fact he accomplishs everything he does as a human. Making him a demon would ruin that and the theme of the manga of human struggle (yes I know he has the berserker armour now)
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>>144700668
?
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Bird.
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>>144700783
Everything since the beginning agrees he's not human.
He's slicing humans in half like butter, and he triggered the apostle form of Zodd with an usual longsword.
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>>144673582
Yeah, but he doesn't need to let the armor consume him. He'll fight Griffith as a human.
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>>144701105
Well, in few seconds he'd have a black hawk over him, sticking its dick to his ass..
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Shit happens in the fairies island, witches dying all around, nice explosions everywhere, king of the flowersomething or the archmages reveal to Guts that Falconia is going to be a huge new eclipse, Guts heads there through the magic babble spirit trees for the final showdown. Calling it.
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>>14470058
Attempts at shoehorning Guts' paternal lineage onto someone in the known cast still befuddles me; why?
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>>144701430
Because it's one of the most overused shounen twists
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>SK is the elf King
How would you react?
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>>144700907
You could argue that hes just extraordinary for a human, which while still unusual can also be a result of his upbringing. I mean he has quite literally fought since he was a child, had to support himself and become resolute. I would argue that that, along with natural talent with swords and fortitude could make it possible.
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>>144701422
Getting back to Falconia will take another 10-20 years.
Calling it.
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>>144701735
Nah he's the legendary king from ages ago. Unless humans can become elves, apart from the fake ones, it's not likely.
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>>144700585
>>144701735
>Just came back from Town of Salem
>connect SK to Serial Killer
Dangerous of games guys.
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I wonder where is Skully right now, hope he's not doing anything that would fuck up the world again
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>>144679994

His only crime is being fabulous.
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>>144700830
So I don't think Skully can impregnate anyone anymore and if Zodd did it would probably be a demon baby.
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>>144702490
He is probably drinking at some bar trying to forget that he fucked everything.
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>>144702951
I went back to some earlier chapters(in nosferatu zodd chapters) and he did not have that fabulous of hair.
That fluffy hair is demon witchcraft.
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>>144673792

It wasn't. But it ended on a pretty meh not with Yusuke losing, so it was kinda...eeehhh. The whole arc felt rushed as fuck, though, anyway.
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Literally what the fuck am I looking at here? What the fuck did they do?
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>>144700907
>>144701763
Guts is human, but maybe he has some supernatural taint. He was born from a dead woman into a pool of blood, possibly during the full moon. Could have had some of that thin place/astral fissure magic afflict him.

But it seems like he's just an extraordinary, ordinary human.
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>>144703847
Also this is a fantasy world where humans are just naturally more incredible than normal. Even regular dudes that Guts fought in the golden age could cut horses in half or cleave through plate armor.
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>>144700634
Guts never fucked Slan.
She fucked his sword, but her never fucked her.
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>>144703820
The consequences of a 8 years hiatus.
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>>144703820
Can't wait for the new blow-up-doll Farnese merch.
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>>144703820
Its not THAT bad.
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>>144703820
Aggressive makeup.
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>>144704119

It's not Lord Yuda tier. It isn't that bad.
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>>144704202
I'm not saying it's bad, I don't mind it personally.
You asked what happened, I said aggressive makeup.
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>>144703927
His sword is an extension of himself so he did fuck her.
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