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Is this show the definition of forced drama?

Pretty much all the problems could be solved if he could tell about his ability, but he is not allowed to because of reasons.
Then Subaru keeps acting like a retard making everything worse.
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>>144661639
>Pretty much all the problems could be solved if he could tell about his ability, but he is not allowed to because of reasons
The reasons for his not being able to tell people about his ability are described in the story. Unless forced just means "the author wrote it that way" in which case every single piece of fiction ever has forced drama.
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>>144661639
>because of reasons
Get fucking oFF.. Retard like you are killing the threads of Re:zero. 3 fucking thread of the same autist faggots shit.

>Muh bad writting
>I can't selfinsert
>Muh solution.
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>>144661639
>because of reasons
I don't think you are using this colloquialism correctly.
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Just like how Lelouch could easily rule the world if he could use his ability on a person multiple times. But he can't because of reasons.
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>>144661639
Yes. I was thinking about the same thing snd until now I thought forced drama was a meme
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>>144661639
it's not forced because the MC never actually nanages to make anything happen. in fact he is trying to force drama himself and each of those women is flatly rejecting his drama.

you fuckin tard.
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>>144662704
>his ability has a clear limit
>he can't say particular words in a particular order

Oh look, shit arguments in a redundant rezero thread
Mezuraii
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>>144661639
no one said you have to watch it, by the way.

>it's popular though

so what? watch something else. i will never understand people who shit on something but still keep fucking going with it. if you don't like the taste then fucking stop consuming it.

it's not complicated
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>>144661639
No this anime is an absolute masterpiece! I know because I heard anons say so!
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>>144661639

The main character is self-absorbed and stupid. The author is very good at writing bad people doing bad things.

Contrary to popular belief, selfish people who try to use and manipulate others are rarely successful or capable. The vast majority fail in ugly ways.

Subaru is an ugly person, and most people don't like seeing him be ugly because he reminds them of themselves.
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>>144662236
He's an unrealistic character. The writer couldn't accurately portray an unintelligent character so he made Subaru unable to realize painfully obvious things.

I enjoy the anime though. I mean I know it's LN adaptation so my expectations aren't "the better be the next evangelion or lotgh."
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>>144663310
The irony is, the people who criticize this show are the ones who are called out for simply wanting to "self insert" but can't because of Subaru's uglyness.

The anime has pandering and misery porn written all over it.
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>>144663321
>unintelligent character so he made Subaru unable to realize painfully obvious things.
speedwatcher
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>>144662704

Pretty sure what his geass could do was one of the first things established in the show.

So far Subaru can't talk about his ability just because Satella doesn't want him to.
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>>144663423
No seriously. It doesn't take a genius to realize you have a power to time reset after dying- especially since you maintain the memories of the previous timeline and you suddenly teleport.

Instead of writing actually manipulative and intelligent characters and have Subaru constantly fall in their trap, we have this this garbage.
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>>144661639
As if you don't want to act useless so that you get to be despised by these qt.
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>>144663396

People want to self-insert into good people devoid of negative traits. People who see negative traits reflected in a main character cannot self-insert.

If you are implying that the people who criticize the story because they are not like Subaru because they cannot relate to his failures, then what you are telling me is that all of those people have never failed... ever.

Everyone fails. People who do not recognize failure are people you should never listen to. They are incapable of learning from their own mistakes and are very ugly people... Exactly like Subaru.
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>>144663549
Hahaha you have no idea what you are talking about.

He has NO proof that he will be able to die an unlimited number of times, he has no idea if it's a set number or anything. He has to live like every life is his last one.
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>>144663660
No you misunderstood.
when you said
>Subaru is an ugly person, and most people don't like seeing him be ugly because he reminds them of themselves.
I just replied by saying that the people who criticize this show are dismissed as those who can't self insert as the main character because he is too ugly.
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>>144663703
I never was talking about that. I just said that it took him a painfully long time to realize that he had his return by death power (whether limited or unlimited).
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>>144662955
>main character acting both out of character and completely illogically isn't forced
just stop.
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>>144663549

People are not wired to experience death more than once. Just look at atheists in today's world. They deny the existence of everything they cannot see as if they know nothing beyond their small point of view exists.

This is a common mental trait. People will think that they are hallucinating, dreaming, have deja-vu, or some other 'explanation' to deny the possibility of repeating time loops of any sort.

Subaru is simply a normal person plunged into extraordinary circumstance, thinking he has a handle on a situation he does NOT have a handle on.

This is called arrogance. Pride that makes an individual assume they know everything, and thus, know very little.
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>>144663950

It was actually a pretty accurate representation of how long it should take a person to find out. He just got seemingly transported to a fantasy world for fucks sake. The probability of having a strong looping dream is infinitely more likely than that.
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>>144663310
>The author is very good at writing bad people doing bad things.

In the new episode Subaru kept rambling and forcing himself on Emilia instead of mentioning the witch cult.
I don't see how that was well written.
>he didn't want her to think that he was with the witch cult like Crusch did
He was clearly attacked and the carriage had blood some knives from the witch cult.
It made no sense that he didn't mention it.
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>>144663959
out of character in what fucking way? he was never actually happy, every time he was confident and smiling it was a front, characters pointed this out all the fucking time. emilia is dense as fuck and even she said his pretend-confidence was easy to see through.
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>>144663460
>just because Satella doesn't want him to.
And how does that make it any less legitimate? Should the antagonist of the story let the protagonist do whatever they want?
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>>144663321
The author did a good job. If you want to defend what you just said, give examples of "painfully odvious things". Exclude the lunch scene with money-loli.
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>>144661639
>there are people in this thread who would willingly fuck up even worse than subaru in the genuine hope they'd get spat on or stepped all over by smarter, stronger women
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>>144661639
Pottery
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>>144663893

Then why do they complain that Subaru is ugly if they do not want to self-insert? If anything, having a main character be ugly and end up reaping the effects of his own pride and hubris is something very different and difficult to get correct. The author of this story is clearly aware of Subaru's ugliness. LN readers say that Subaru does eventually learn, but only after it is too late, leaving him to live with the consequences of his own actions.

Personally, I cannot self-insert because I am aware of my flawed nature and do not expect people to know everything that I know. However, I find there to be great value in a fatally flawed main character.

People who criticize the story, calling Subaru stupid and a poorly made character, and then comparing his actions to their own personal intelligence are projecting. Essentially, attempting an incompatible self-insertion.

Now, if they were criticizing plot points and questioning deeper aspects of the story beyond the premise, then sure. However, those are usually people who aren't complaining about how bad the story is, but rather analyzing and trying to gain context of.
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Is this show worth watching from start to where it is now all in one night
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Why are you guys replying to obvious bait. This always happens after every episode of the show.

What I like about Re:Zero is how you can easily weed out those who can't get context, doesn't "watch" what they are watching, and those who are dumb to understand what is going on even though it is fully presented in the show.

People seem to forget what happened in the old episodes.
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>>144664427
NO. I had to think and think and deduce and deduce and talk and talk with a friend about the show to understand subaru as a realistic hikineet
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>>144664022
>In the new episode Subaru kept rambling and forcing himself on Emilia instead of mentioning the witch cult. I don't see how that was well written.

Subaru is an idiot who does not trust anyone to understand the larger situation and demands they blindly trust him without explanation.

THAT is a kind of person I meet every day.

>It made no sense that he didn't mention it

Yeah... because Subaru isn't meant to make sense. He is meant to show the consequences of pride getting in the way of reason.
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>>144664405
I was referring to those criticizing plot points and the presentation and execution of the themes in the story.
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>>144664022
>knives from the cult
Fucking this.
Plothole
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>>144664534

I was responding directly to OP who justified his point of calling everything forced drama because Subaru is an idiot.
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>>144663321
what do you mean unrealistic? hes legit what half of 4chan and all of r9k is lol
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The writing stinks of plot convenience all the time, but since it stacks the odds against the MC and not in his favor like in a Gary Stu anime, it's suddenly genius ("deep", "the anti-SAO"...).
It feels like the author is the real witch, he dictates the rules and directs the characters however he want (even if it means removing their brain cells). That's obvious, he's the author, but the whole thing is horribly inorganic.
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>>144664636
That's rather depressing. I see why they like this show then.
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>>144663310
>very good at writing

That's why he's writing LNs yes
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>>144661639
Not only is the drama pretensions and forced but just about over conflict is so painfully artificial with the excuse of "muh Magic"

Oh, you want to tell everyone that you can respawn? Nope magic evil hands out the ass.

It's absurd.
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>>144663460
There's actually a good reason why she won't let him talk. If people figured out that someone cursed by her could time loop based on objectives set by her, they'd seal him away for eternity.
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>>144662955
just wow, reddit:zero everyone.
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>>144664588
Seriously though.

Why are the knives no big deal when the cult seems to leave them everywhere?
They leave them behind like fucking plastic bottles.

Shouldn't they be recognizable by now?
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>>144665013
i don't understand what your comment has to do with my comment. i think you just wanted an excuse to post that retarded new ""insult"" you came up with

>heh they both start with "re" heh this is gonna be so epic heh everyone will think im cool
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>>144664405
Stop it with that self-insert shit, it's never a thing except when the character is written as a direct avatar like in videogames.
And you're supposed to be projecting when you're writing and reading fiction. Writers use their experiences and feelings, readers project their own experiences and feelings over the story and characters. It's usually a bad sign when it doesn't happen.
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>>144665035
>Shouldn't they be recognizable by now?
The hell you saying. Everyone knows about the Witches Cult. Didn't you watch episode 16? All the leaders know about them.
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>>144665278
I mean their knives
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>>144661639

sorry you can't handle good writing nerd
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>>144664915
so read the novels.

oh wait. you can't read japanese
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>>144664915
>magic
>apsurd in a fantasy setting

holy shit you're retarded
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>>144665340
Ooh. You got him. Damn. He's super done now. Nice, dude.
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>>144661639
Yes it's forced. Welcome to shitty writing. People only say it's great because they haven't seen better.
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This is pretty entertaining watching all these speedwatchers get fucked.
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>>144665437

This is definitely the kind of Anime you need to watch SLOWLY and PAY ATTENTION! Because so much world building happens in the dialogue, if you watch it enough. It's very subtle, and very very well-done! So far I've watched each episode twice... more times for the early ones, which were really filled with interesting information!! It's like Game of Thrones tier, it's crazy!
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>>144665549
Weak falseflag.
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>>144661639
>All these retards getting baited and not spamming reports.

All of you deserve these threads just for not being able to avoid it and report.
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Just watched the episode.

From what I've read. It's actually the same as the LN. The only difference is how Beatrice acted. Word said are actually the same, how the events played are also the same.

Also on how the episode ended, it's actually the same as Episode 7. I don't know why people are so mad about that.

I'm pretty sure that Ep18 won't have any OP and ED as the author himself stated that Ep18 has been the most worked on episode by White Fox to date.

In short, people are complaining over nothing. People are forming opinions over fake spoilers. Typical /a/.
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>>144665112
Point is nothing in your comment makes sense.

You think that by have big titty girl overreacting and kicking cuck in the face to which he twirls on the ground and spits blood everywhere just to be yelled at about pride somehow avoids creating drama.

Fuck off back to /reddit/
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>>144665437
I agree, it's really something you got to soak in while you watch
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>>144665775
I... what?

Subaru throws hissyfits, that isn't "forced drama", that is flaws, of his character

stop bringing up reddit because you don't know how to have a fucking argument without needing to phrase every statement like it's the last word faggot.
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>>144665367
There's nothing wrong with magic in fantasy worlds, you see a good fantasy world would keep in reasonable.

In this shit fest it can literally do whatever the crack head writer wishes to artificially extend the plot, it's painful to watch desu.
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>>144665549
Kek
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>>144665367
Well even magic should have its own logic.
If it contradicts its own set of rules then it's absurd.
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I just fucking hate how he's so damn obsessive over emilia like fuck give her some room.

He acts like he has to spend every second of his life watching her.
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So the way to convince Emilia to go along with your plan is dragging her around and threatening her like a potential rapist.
It seems like a few more deaths are needed before the MC grows up. You guys will keep pointing to how distressed the MC is, but after 16 episodes I can not honestly believe the MC doesn't learn acting like a retard won't convince people to be your friend. I could forgive up to ep 15, but this episode is merely forced drama in order to worsen the outcome of this loop and heighten the payback for the final successful loop.
The show would more dramatically improve with an MC that would, for instance, try to discover who still remember Rem (I kept wondering that the whole time) and why they forget Rem (gotta be the white whale as this also happened to the other merchant).
But all we got is a proven retard. Even Higurashi with a similar plot isn't this bad. What's the point of having mysteries when the MC lacks thinking skills and everything boils down to "he's suffering from great distress so he can't think clearly"?
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>>144661639
Well yeah. It is a japanese light novel.

Dude's died I don't know how many fucking times and during all of those times he's been alive he's never ever ever decided to sit down and train and do random shit since he's effectively immortal?

In this last ep?
Forced as fuck. Running like a faggot when he fucking knows he can die and start over. That he can save her and put it all right.

He's shown talent at fighting, and could theoretically spend a lifetime learning how to sword fight from that sword master, and his shadow powers can be honed and mastered in that time as well. He can even learn other skills and more about the world and all of the people in it.

Fucks sake, I would have loved to see this guy do more and more outrageous shit in that world and have it work out because he's done things that gave him insight into the minds of these people and world.

He's a goddamned ninja/assassin with martial arts talent and he's being trained by a sword master. Dude should be running around doing cray shit and getting away with even more cray shit.

BUT we're instead treated to him acting like a little bitch and popping off like a weak toothless pup in more and more contrived moments of drama.
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>>144663999
He's seen magic in that world, he's a straight up otaku. He realizes what's going on after the third time.

This is bullshit.

>>144664007
If he simply thought he could see alternate timelines through really realistic dreams then..that actually would be more interesting.

If he only found out that he's been dying and that every death has been slowly corrupting him and making him like beetlegeuse, the man who's been torturing him and doing all of these negative things?

The mind break and anguish and fear of death would have hit him and the readers like a brick.

That would have been a better "he has a full mental breakdown" worthy reason.
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>>144666219
Except that progresd is undone with each death. All his efforts would be completely wasted. He isn't immortal, his consciousness travels back to the past, not the body.
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>>144666450
>He's seen magic in that world, he's a straight up otaku.
So what? Are you saying there can't be magic in an hallucination/vivid dream. Cause there as sure as fuck can be.
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>>144665228
You're right, and in stories people like they desperately want someone they can empathize with or even like.

But when the MC is the source of all of the negative drama and does nothing but be a complete idiot. It's kind of hard to watch.

You honestly have to disengage and tell the audience "it's okay to hate this guy". I mean..it's sort of...something that doesn't pop up in much media. A protag who's created to or becomes someone who's detestable and unlikeable.
He's just...doesn't actually do anything to warrant the care of the other characters beyond a certain point.
They for some unfathomable reason put up with him. And the blue haired ogre girl has for some reason fallen horn over heels for him.

It would make sense if these people who've all known him for not even a few weeks decided to kick his ass to the curb, broke off their relationship with him or something, but...he's just...accepted unconditionally no matter how crazy as fuck he's acting. He's not someone they've known for years or close family. He's literally a fucking stranger.
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>>144666666
Shit get, fuck you
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>>144666590
I'm pretty sure his skills improved after each death when he was learning how to tend the house, example being that he went from cutting his hands up while cutting fruit to doing it really well.
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>>144666666
Wasted
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>>144666666
Kill yourself
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>>144666706
That's just his knowledge tied up to his consciousness. He doesn't actually retain muscle memory nor magic progress.
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>>144666666
Satan please
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>>144666666
What a wasted get.
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>>144666666
>>144666677
>>144666700
All these numbers!
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>>144666666
Fucking waste. Fuck you Ultra-Satan
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>>144666666
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>>144666666
>Reddit:Zero thread
Wasted
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>>144666800
Oh shit.
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>>144661639
It's forced suffering.
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>Be Subaru
>Be effectively immortal
>Run away from the bad guys screaming "I don't want to die"


hurrr
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>>144661639

Idk why I like Anastassia so much

She just seems nice even if it's business she at least gave him something out of it when she could have walked out
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>>144665671
Thank you for your unsolicited 'sagely' wisdom.

Now fuck off.
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>>144666590
His physical progress yes, but not his mental progress.
He'd still be able to use tips and tricks to overcome his physical weakness when it comes to sword skills and magic. Like keeping a pocket full of those fruit that brings back his mana, or something like that.

He'd still have the skills of a sword/knife fighter but just lack the physical training necessary to capitalize on it. But that would be part of the drama.

How would he be able to hold his own against the witches and stabilize the time line so he wouldn't loop backwards again and become even more of a demon. What thing could he do to make things fall into place so that everything works out.
Who can he save and who would he have to sacrifice?

That is drama I would have loved to see.
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>>144666878
he still feels pain, so I don't think dying is a pleasant experience
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>>144666700
>>144666721
>>144666736
>>144666776
>>144666798
>>144666798
>>144666781
>>144666802
>>144666846
I'm actually ashamed because this will ruin the thread. Brb, offing myself.
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>>144666866
you're going this on purpose, aren't you?
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>>144666776
Muscle memory is stored in your brain as neural pathways which are clearly being retained when his mind is transplanted to the past.
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>>144666951
woah, look at mr. einstein there
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should i keep watching this show? im on ep 9.
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>>144666921
>upset at people talking about huge shit of a GET
>has to make another post pointing it out

Nice blog, where to I subscribe. Lurk for 2 years before posting, newfriendo
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>>144661639
What was Priscilla bent out of shape about?

The jew loli called him pathetic for being incompetent and worthless.
The dictator with the cat dick called him for pathetic for being so self righteous about personal problems.

But what was the lucky bitch's problem?
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>>144666899
>>144666951
Have you not seen the world he lives in? He's the bottom of the barrel, the lowest in this world. I sincerely doubt he would accomplish anything.
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>>144665832
Forum and board discussions help too in-between each episode. From little missed nuances that the watcher could have not noticed, to actual skipped content from source material that can be explained.

Really, the only negative are the cliffhangers that drive you mad; otherwise this show is better watched without marathoning it.
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>>144666878
>Run away from the bad guys screaming "I don't want to die"
dying doesn't seem to be a pleasant experience. Plus the mental health of the guy is clearly deteriorated from repeated (dying) trauma
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Why doesn't keep dying and use his time getting stronger than Reinhardt?
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>>144667115
Because he has no fucking idea about Reinhard's list of blessings?
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>>144666951
Yeah, but there's a big problem

Part of getting strong and better at things is the mind cutting out the useless movements associated with doing something. You get better at backflips because you're more experienced and physically strong enough to do it.
Etc etc.

BUT he might mentally be able to capitalize on all of these new skills HOWEVER the physical training and strengthening of his body will always be reset to zero.

He can be a complete sword master and know all of the high level super skills. Problem? He can't fully capitalize on them because he's for all intents and pourposes a physical novice.

His thing would have been to overcome that weakness with better skill.

His magical ability? I have no idea. They have said that his magical gate is too weak and untrained. So it can be assumed to be a physical thing. HOWEVER if it's tied to his mind then his magic skills can become truly formidable and fully perfected if he tries and keeps his mana beans.
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>whale chases him because of scent
>spares him
Why?
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>>144667115
>stronger than Reinhardt
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Does Subaru ever stop being a retard?
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>>144667115
>Why doesn't keep dying and use his time doing the impossible?
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>>144667056
EXACTLY!!
He's convinced that he's a level 1 hero and that he has to level up!
He should have probably fell into complete delusion after the 3rd or 4th death.

He'd simply run around learning all about the world and towns and history and magic and sword fighting.
Part of the drama could be the other characters noticing how he knows more about the world then he let on or knows more about people/the world then they do.
Go full groundhog day with it but with a twist.
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>>144665549
>Game of Thrones

I don't get it, Re:zero is good, but why are you comparing it to a poorly written poor franchise?
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>>144667115
>stronger than Reinhardt
Oh boy, someone post the copypasta.
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>>144667189
he kept saying he doesn't want to die, so the whale decided to be polite, respect his witch authority, and leave him alone.
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>>144666219
We've been over this shit a million times
>He doesn't know if his next death may be his last
>Dying is scary, painful, traumatic, etc. and you have a very strong natural instinct to avoid it that is hard to overcome
>He cannot gain muscle or train his weak and damaged gate across loops, he's limited to 1 spell even when healed, he can only learn how to do these things
>He only has a few days before having to kill himself otherwise he may risk overwriting the loop
>He has no control over how the loops work
>Ignoring the world and training means letting the people he cares about die over and over again
>Training for even years likely won't push him past Rem in terms of ability and Rem keeps dying
>Implying he will be the same person, or even be remotely sane after letting them die and committing suicide countless times
>Every time he dies the witch stench increases, which has side effects such as drawing monsters to his location (including the white whale) which is very bad
>Too much stench can hypothetically lead to bad ends from this, meaning that infinite loops may not work
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>>144667244
The answer is tied to this other question: does /a/ ever stop being a retard?
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>>144663136
b-b-but I need to falseflag!

I need to tell you that what I dislike is shit!
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>>144666951
>>144667164
Thats not entirely thr case. Subaru is shown to be physically fit.

With the right neural pathways he can perform the same techniques if his muscles can handle it.

Swinging a sword isnt that hard.

In any case it doesnt matter because this is all hypotheticals. The reality is that everyone else is so vastly ahead of him, that he'd have to spend years training just to reach the level of a royal knight.

Killing yourself each week for years isnt practical or healthy.
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>>144667039
if you didn't like it after episode 7 then you won't care for it later.
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Subaru is basically the Ancient Mariner.

The Ancient Mariner killed the albatross and refused to admit what he did was wrong until everyone around him had turned on him, and then died. Even in his solitude, he still refused to submit until in the depths of despair he underwent revelation, and was finally freed.

Eventually, I hope, Subaru will stop running in circles with this shit and will gain true resolve to fix the problem. My only fear is when the revelation happens everyone will start saying this is the best anime since Madoka (it's not, the pacing is painful).
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>>144661639
Every episode I hate Subaru a little bit more. Well, both him and Emillia are the only two characters I hate in this series. The rest of the characters in this series a are great.
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>>144661639
i dont fucking get the meme, I'm like halfway through and Subaru is a generic nice guy

when does he get 'ugly'
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>>144667362
Subaru and Emelia really deserve each other.
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>>144667266
So, just boring adventures in fantasyland? No thanks. The time travel shit might as well not be there.
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>>144667362
>hates Emilia
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>>144663136
>you don't have to watch it
>therefore, the fact that it's bad is irrelevant
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>>144667210
you do comprehend!
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>>144667362

What did Emilia do wrong?
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>>144667392
Agreed.

>>144667419
>How dare you hate my waifu!

>>144667448
She's irresponsible and unintelligent. She's basically a lesser version of Subaru.
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>>144667386
Never
/a/ blowing things out of proportion as usual.
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Subaru's constant, confrontational overreaction to everything is getting really grating. He went from spending most of every episode being an obnoxious, pompous, overblown ass to being a melodramatic ponce shouting incessantly.

He's goddamn insufferable
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>>144667298
one thing i don't get is why he never tried to experiment with it a little bit more than nothing.

what if the power has a limit and when it ends he gets thrown back to his world/reality?

My real problem is why the fucking maids have so much push in the series.
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>>144667474
>irresponsible and unintelligent
Well, she's supposed to be 14 mentally speaking
>a lesser version of Subaru
Impossiburu
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>>144667448
>What did Emilia do?

Emilia does jack fucking shit except hypocritically condescend to the one jackass who has saved her life twice. She hasn't done a single damn thing the entire anime. She is so stupid she makes Subaru look normal. Her only redeeming feature is her coat with the cute pointed ears.
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>>144667515
because
>He doesn't know if his next death may be his last
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>>144667425
see >>144667320
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>>144667523
>let's make a contract with a spirit so as to be slightly less useless, but on the flipside anyone powerful enough can still fuck us up after which said spirit will suddenly get superpowered and massacre people we're supposedly working to protect
I did some stupid shit at 14, but nothing that stupid.
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>>144667606
Has he ever even considered that?
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>>144667509
That's actually the most understandable and acceptable criticism of the anime I've seen yet. I might as well add that I grew slightly tired of the drama with yesterday's episode, though it makes for interesting situations and development.
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>>144667606
How long is that going to be dragged out?
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>>144667509
>He went from spending most of every episode being an obnoxious, pompous, overblown ass to being a melodramatic ponce shouting incessantly.

Woah, it's almost as if he is losing it after going through so much shit.
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>>144667298
>>He doesn't know if his next death may be his last
He's committed suicide before. That no longer has any weight.
>>Dying is scary, painful, traumatic, etc. and you have a very strong natural instinct to avoid it that is hard to overcome
See above.
>>He cannot gain muscle or train his weak and damaged gate across loops, he's limited to 1 spell even when healed, he can only learn how to do these things
The thing about muscle, I know about, but you can capitalize on what muscle you have and use better technique. He's already been shown to be in good physical condition. All that's missing is the knowledge and balls to capitalize on it.
He can learn how to instantly repair it or gain a boon from beatrice or the ice squirrel(forgot the name of emilia's familiar creature) and begin to learn some magical skills.

>>He only has a few days before having to kill himself otherwise he may risk overwriting the loop
Yeah I know, and in that time he can learn new things.

>>He has no control over how the loops work
He has control over when a new loop starts and he knows where it starts. He also knows that certain conditions have to be met to break out of one. That's more then enough.
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>>144666666
>>144666800
>>144666866
As if IRC needed an incentive to derail the thread even more.
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>>144667643
She just got unlucky is all
>contract with spirit
>ICE AGE FAGGOTS
>gains a ""knight""
>a massive sperg who humiliates her in Throne Room
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>>144667562
This, basically.
She exists just to be pussy for Subaru to chase, but her entire character is basically to have as little character as possible so she doesn't alienate the tastes of any viewer. She just "the heroine" and every action she takes, every step she makes, every word that comes out of her mouth is just a plot device so the author has an excuse to make Subaru do something.

Whenever she;s on screen the pace of an episode just grinds down to a crawl because it has to take time for Subaru to say something long-winded to her, her to respond with something vacuous and inconsequential and have him overreact to it.

It's tedious dealing with such an absolute non-character that still manages to be a vacuum sucking up screentime and focus constantly.
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You know a character is shit when Tom Cruise did it better as an equally useless character.
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>>144667728
He comes across as obnoxious and over-dramatic, rather than insane.
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>>144667728
Crazy people are fucking annoying.
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>>144667792
That movie is way better than this.
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>>144667783
>Whenever she;s on screen the pace of an episode just grinds down to a crawl because it has to take time for Subaru to say something long-winded to her, her to respond with something vacuous and inconsequential and have him overreact to it.
This reminds me of another LN heroine but for the life of me I can't remember her name.
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>>144667792
that's why edge of tomorrow is a perfectly enjoyable movie whereas re:zero is just downright frustrating to watch
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>>144667783
Anon, everybody knows that Emilia is a shit. If I was in the same situation, I'd just stay with Beako in the magic library and try to get the magical loli.
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>>144667728
the thing is, you don't go insane from seeing your loved ones dying 3 or 4 times, not enough to scream at people because things are not going your way.

if you told me he killed himself to try to save them countless times, then yes, but the dude can't even do that because >it might me my last time
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>>144667404
Actually Subaru will be completely delusional and playing up his knight thing, while everyone else around him will simply be acting normally.

The witches coven revealing everything and telling him that he's already becoming like beetlegeuse because he's partially insane and has the witches 'love' on him?

Full on broken heart and lost mind level stuff.

And the time travel stuff is paramount. It's needed. He uses it to get happy endings for everyone and when he doesn't get it he loses it a bit more.
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so whats the story with her this episode?
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>>144667734

>>Ignoring the world and training means letting the people he cares about die over and over again
They will die whether he trains or not. That's the fucking problem. Can he sit there and be weak with the only thing going for him is the ability to fucking die like a bitch or will he train.

>>Training for even years likely won't push him past Rem in terms of ability and Rem keeps dying
Rem is a fucking demon, a powerful one.
He only has to become as powerful as he can be and capitalize on his own strengths. Something that could make him fairly broken.

>>Implying he will be the same person, or even be remotely sane after letting them die and committing suicide countless times
He's got not fucking choice but to change. He's already comitted suicide and already lost his goddamned mind.
He has two choices.
Metaphorically kill the man he was and become someone else, or continue to sit helplessly by and watch the people he's come to love deeply die and die for him.

>>Every time he dies the witch stench increases, which has side effects such as drawing monsters to his location (including the white whale) which is very bad
The witches will come for him regardless of his stench. And his skill with a weapon and magical ability and other knowledge will help him survive.

>>Too much stench can hypothetically lead to bad ends from this, meaning that infinite loops may not work
Yeah the thing with the whale. BUT the thing with the whale wouldn't have happened if he wasn't such a bitch.
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>>144667989
she's basically based as usual
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>>144667976
>Actually Subaru will be completely delusional and playing up his knight thing, while everyone else around him will simply be acting normally.
But that doesn't make sense since he has nothing to protect in that case. He woyld just be a loner.
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>>144667976
I wonder if the timelines don't cease to exist after Subaru's death...
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>>144667989
I wanna smother my face into those pantyhosed loli thighs.
On-topic, she's had more development in 2 minutes than most side chars until now. She was the highlight of thw episode.
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>>144664044

Does Subaru even have character traits besides being an idiot and having bad things happen to him?
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>>144668205
> not wanting to smother into Priscillas feet
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>>144661639
>forced drama
What did he mean by this?
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>>144668211
He's from our world and a NEET so he's supposedly genre-savvy.

Except he's still not.
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>>144665429
This. Go watch Mob Psycho, OP.

>>144667792
Edge of Tomorrow was shit
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>>144667651
speedwatcher-kun

Episode 7.
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>>144668211
Nope. When all's said and done he isn't much better than Kirito in terms of complexity or lack thereof. The stuff he goes through just happens to be creative, not the character himself.
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>>144667792
>Edge of Tomorrow
But that was actually good unlike this shit show
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>>144667651
There was an entire loop of just that in arc 2. He sat around and did nothing to try and avoid death because he was going past his former limit of deaths (and the idea that he may only have 3 lives like a game or something). In the end he hesitantly manages to put his faith in his ability by killing himself after everything was fucked up, but he still hasn't reached a point where he gives no fucks about dying.

He doesn't know what the limits are, and isn't prepared to test it and find out because hitting that limit means dying for real. He'll start decapitating himself soon enough though

>>144667734
See above for first two

Yes he can train but he isn't willing to let people die and suffer while he does it. If he was in a more peaceful situation and not worrying about everyone dying, he might consider training a bit more. Also both of those characters aren't particularly accessible to him right now.

>Yeah I know, and in that time he can learn new things.
Once again, he'll be letting everyone in the world he cares about die before he kills himself while he studies and trains. There will be a serious toll on his psyche from that in one way or another. If you're wondering why he isn't going full Groundhog Day, it's because Bill Murray and everyone in the town didn't die horribly every night.

>He has control over when a new loop starts and he knows where it starts
Absolutely false with no evidence to back it up. If he had control he could have set it back before he made an ass of himself this arc. We sure as hell know he has no control after the end of the current one as well
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>>144668211
>le trivializing meme
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If this show is so bad why are you all still watching it
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>>144666219
found the guy who missed the context of the show

and an underage on /a/, fuck off back to your mother basement faggot.
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>>144668416
nah it was garbage

the acting was horrendous
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>>144667298
replying to bait, shitposters, idiots... you never learn /a/
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>>144667792
that's because tom cruise was in a good movie with good acting
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Is there anyone from the same world that Subaru came from? I'd like to see some interactions.
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>>144667792
edge of tomorrow was a meme on /tv/ because of how bad it was, though.
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>>144668334
I did speedwatch my bad.
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>>144668447
Because I like it.
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>>144667792
Edge of Tomorrow was a good movie while Re:Zero is a shitty anime, that's the difference.
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>>144668447
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>>144667989
being best girl, same as always
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>>144667050

She just hated that he was gutless and gave into her demands
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>>144668447
Sunk costs.
I picked it up on a whim and stuck with the 1st cours because the first 3 or so episodes were alright, but it got worse the deeper in I went and now I come out of each weak's episode bitter that I sat through it and even more bitter than some people actually enjoyed it.
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>>144668447
If I didn't drop SAO, I'm not dropping this.
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>>144668637
>and even more bitter than some people actually enjoyed it.
Autism

>>144668654
SAO is better than Re:zero, though
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>People keep suggesting training
Am I missing something or is that simply completely retarded? Subaru is an average human being in a fantasy land filled with NOT-humans, it would be like expecting a slice of life character thrown in the world of Dragonball to train with Goku.
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>>144668654
SAO seems more enjoyable in retrospect. At least things moved forward with that.
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>>144668447
SUFFERING
BONER
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>>144668654
>>144668706
this. At least SAO had actual character development. This is quite honestly one of the most aggravating anime I've ever seen.
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>>144668637
>bitter than some people actually enjoyed it.
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>>144668637
>bitter than some people actually enjoyed it.

These are the people that shitpost in Re:Zero threads.
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>>144661639
This show has by far the most forced drama out of any series.

I don't even know why anyone would actually enjoy it.
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>>144668637
>bitter that other people enjoy what you don't like

Brain problems?
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>>144668033
In a world where insanely powerful magical races exist, training can only get him so far. Even Rem dies to a group of generic cultists and he can't even get on her level.

Subaru can't just grind and muscle his way out of everything. He's surrounded by people much stronger than he will ever be, and manipulating them is a faster solution that will probably be better in the long term since he can acquire allies.

>The witches will come for him regardless of his stench. And his skill with a weapon and magical ability and other knowledge will help him survive.
If the stench got so bad that monsters came to his location from miles around, he would become a walking natural disaster. Monsters could kill everyone between them and him, and massive legendary creatures like the white whale and other spoilers will show up as well. If he became a danger to society, he could become trapped in an infinite loop where Reinhard kills him forever.

>Yeah the thing with the whale. BUT the thing with the whale wouldn't have happened if he wasn't such a bitch.
Literally what
The whale is attracted to the witch's scent and the only way to get to the mansion without everyone dying is to go past the whale

The rest of the earlier points come down to personality and such and his lack of eagerness to go down that path.
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>>144661639
If you can't appreciate the visual and sound direction in this show, along with the subtle visual development of the MC, you may have a sub-110 IQ.
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Somebody tell me just how bad Subaru gets, as I can't watch this is Subaru keeps making things worse and worse, hell, I was actually hesitant to betray others in VLR. That shit gets to me hard.
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>>144668211
>>144668353

I'm not even sure if people are shitposting anymore or if they legit don't understand whats going on.

At its simplest Subaru is overcompensating for his lack of a ability by being overly prideful to protect his ego. Thus he projects his failings on everyone around him. Therefore instead of admitting he was wrong he sets out to prove that he was right all along. He doesn't even realize he made a mistake because his pride can't accept that fact.

Well not until suffering.
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Sword Art Online and GATE shit all over this garbage show
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>>144668740
>SAO
>character development
The shitposting was retarded enough so far, no need to aggravate it.
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>>144669004
>At its simplest Subaru is overcompensating for his lack of a ability by being overly prideful to protect his ego. Thus he projects his failings on everyone around him. Therefore instead of admitting he was wrong he sets out to prove that he was right all along. He doesn't even realize he made a mistake because his pride can't accept that fact.
That's fine but still doesn't amount to much in terms of character traits.
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>>144669039
What has Re:Zero shown aside from him suffering and sobbing like a retard

Subaru is quite one-dimensional
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>>144668637
>even more bitter than some people actually enjoyed it.
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>>144666036
Read the LN faggot, he can't help it
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What bothers me is that Subaru never tried other means of explaining his ability such as writing or hidden messages, sure maybe the cure thingy can tell but he doesn't know that, he only attempts to yell it at Emilia.
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>>144669062
Certainly much more than fucking Kirito.
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>>144668093
He would still think he's the knight who's protecting the princess. Emilia's little shpiel about the version of her that he has in her head being awesome?
Would make a lot more sense if he actually acted like that.
If he built her up into someone she wasn't and the one person he has to protect etc etc.
Just drop a few bombs that shows that he doesn't know her at all.
That he's been shamelessly using her too keep himself sane.

The moment when he realizes that he's never been her friend or even truly loved her and the loneliness? The deaths and suicides and suffering he's undergone and his "I'm protecting Emilia" as the one single good thing to come out of it? Priceless.
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>>144669151
I heard from some anon that trying to let someone know about the curse in any way will trigger the hand thing.
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>>144667115

Because he wouldn't keep his physical gains

Though if he goes magic, he WILL become stronger given that's more mental control and reading/learning spells over anything else
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>>144669131
Yeah sure, that's why people lost their shit a hundred times over during episode 13.
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>>144669151
The second somebody figures out what his hidden message means, or reads his notes, they will die
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>>144669151
Either way he'd still be fucked because of Satella.
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>>144668447
Interesting concept, and has hints of being alright.

The main issue is the MC. I even sort of liked him in the beginning, he just got really grating.
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>>144669177
Wait, that's exactly what is happening in the show itself, am I being rused?
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>>144669215
His gate is a physical aspect of him that limits him and needs to be healed. Even if he learns every spell he can, he's still going to have what's essentially the world's shittiest mana pool. A single spell completely physically exhausts him.

He needs to train it (probably vaguely similar to a muscle) or find some way to power it up and save that progress in a loop before he can really use magic efficiently.
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>>144669213
>>144669242
>>144669243
I can live with that, it just bothered me how Subaru despite gaining second chances constantly tries the same approach
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>>144668694
He was able to fight some kind of ninja wolf bitch with a giant club and has magic powers and goes full groundhog day if he dies horribly.

I sort of expect him to capitalize on it. I mean, what supposed neet otaku wouldn't at some point completely disengage from everything that's happening around him and fall into a fantasy world.
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Why doesn't Subaru just say fuck it and try to find a way back home.

Being a NEET is more comfy.
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>>144669242
>why doesn't he just tell Satella so she has to kill herself?
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>>144668429
He's already letting them fucking die.
Fucks sake 99% of the time he's being told he's weak as shit and can't do anything.
He even knows this shit.
Why in the shit wouldn't he train or capitalize on the time he has to learn new things and apply them.

The entire series is based around this. No I take it back, the entire series is based around him acting like a fucktard and doing completely retarded shit.
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>>144669404
But he is bound by his human limits, he will never be a loli capable of destroying a building with his hands regardless of training in the fastactic land of suffering.
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Why couldn't he just say that the cult is coming and the white whale attacked them?

This is EVA 3.0 or Valvrare levels of forced shit that could have been all avoided.

Imagine if 911 emergency calls existed there and you had to deal with Toyota trying to explain what's going on.
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>>144668894
Then whats the point of doing anything?
He's too fucking stupid and pigheaded to manipulate anyone.

Apparently too weak to EVER be able to hold his own even against a drunken hobo with a limp because erreyone except him is super stronk,

And he has never shown a personality that would allow him to make friends. He's litterally got friends and alies because the plot demands it.

The stench will grow whether he wants it or fucking not. Would it grow because he let himself die or died like a retard or would it grow because he's trained really hard and then died in a magic and sword fight against a group of cultists while Rem escaped.

Him being a fucking bitch is what caused well over half his fucking deaths so far.
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>>144669151
The hand thing isn't automatic, and neither is his savescum ability. The witch is watching him at all times and sends him back on a whim when he fucks up and dies.

She does the hands thing when she sees that he's trying to say something she doesn't want him to say. First time, she clenched his heart to spook him, every time since then she's just given him a little reminder to discourage him from spilling the beans. This time, he was determined to ignore a potential magic-induced heart attack to tell the truth because he was so desperate. Since spooking him wouldn't stop him, she just killed the person he was going to tell.
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Why doesn't he just tell everyone he can revive and kill them all?
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>caravan guy gets forgotten
>Rem gets forgotten
>he still doesn't pick it up

Like god damn this shit pissed me off about Toyota since ep 1. He misses the most fucking obvious clues.

Like Jesus it's not even that hard to understand.
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>>144669851
If the whale erases the memory of people it eats/kills, then why did that dude know the story about the sword master or whatever?
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>>144669701
>Imagine if 911 emergency calls existed there and you had to deal with Toyota trying to explain what's going on.

>"We need to get out of this building"
>"Trust me"
>"I'll drag all of you away even by force"
>"I'm not crazy, I'm..."
Que 9/11 screams and Satella driving the airplane
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>>144669701
> The witches cult is coming
How do you know?
> Because I....
> Proceeds to accidentally kill Emilia
Literally the same end result.
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>>144669333
No, no it's not.
He's not actually protecting anyone or trying to protect anyone but himself.
Has he actually directly protected emillia outside of...once?

Even his thing in the audience chamber felt like it was something tacked on at the last second.
The thing with the maids completely ruins this. It's like the author realizes that he doesn't actually like emilia and is pushing everything he wanted for her onto rem.

He isn't deeply deluded from dying so many times and had a psychotic break where he sees himself as a knight protecting the fair princess and everyone's happiness and when he fails he just resets.

He's just this cunt that runs around getting killed a lot and popping off at everyone.
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So the whale can completely warp reality and every single event connected to those it erases? Does that mean that Ram could still have her horn?
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>>144668617
no how much does she know?
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It's kind of refreshing to be on episode 17 of a series and actually not particularly care for the MC.
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>>144669492
>He's already letting them fucking die.
Making an attempt to save them and failing is very different than just straight up not giving a fuck about the cult slaughtering them and sitting in the capital reading some books.

He's managed to clear things while barely hitting around 10 loops up to this point, which isn't bad at all compared to the probably thousands the people complaining about training would have before even getting past Elsa.

>>144669719
>Then whats the point of doing anything?
What is the point of anything in life?

He wants friends, love, etc. and he wants to protect them. These are his goals as a character. Coincidentally he has a shit personality and it actively hinders his attempts at acquiring the things that he wants.

It's no secret that he has some extremely major flaws, they're a plot point in the story.
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>>144669973
Just say he's an fortune teller or his magic cellphone told him so or some shit. Anything but "just trust me lol"

It's one thing to see him try to make an excuse and fail but he doesn't even try.
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>>144669964
Terrible example, Subaru simply making a terror threat would accomplish an evacuation.
Subaru simply has to write a letter saying ''We are coming to rek (you)
t. Witch cult led by Michael Keaton''
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>>144670059
Everything basically. You are not some all powerful mage without knowing a thing or two.
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>>144669497
So are the knights and the mages and most everyone else that isn't a demigod or something.

He can learn what he can and capitalize on the knowledge that he can learn from his constant deaths.

>>144669973
I can see glimpses of the future!
A quick simple lie that can save him a lot of trouble.
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How come Subaru just can't write that he revives on a piece of paper and leave it out in the open?
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>>144670127
I don't think it occurred to Subaru that telling someone about his power would put them in danger instead of him. Its possible he will lie in future situations.
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>>144670127
>So are the knights and the mages
Are they? for all I know they are RPG characters capable of either being lvl 1 peasants or lvl 90 superheroes.
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>>144661639

the mc represents autists like you who think the world is straightforward and that things can be solved in 1 punch of your special ability
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>>144661639
>Is this show the definition of forced drama?
Most definitely. It's been doing this for the entire current arc.
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>>144670123
So is she aware of the loops?

I had a feeling that she did the first time we met her.
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>>144670183
because its the same shit
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>>144669840
You mean the cult?
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>>144669977
Okay, you're just baiting at this point. What you've said is exactly Subaru. See episode 13. End of the discussion.
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>>144670218
But how will the witch know who read it?
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>>144670110
This actually seems like a good idea
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>>144670218
Sounds like a pretty deadly weapon to use.
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>>144670110
Come on mate. You think Subaru would actually do this after what you just saw with Emilia.

And I know it's a terrible example because it actually happened. He says it to Emilia before killing her.
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>>144670183
whoever reads it will die
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>>144670265
Because she's watching him.
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>>144670123
>You are not some all powerful mage without knowing a thing or two.
She didn't even know he was cursed during the first night.
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>>144661639
But anon no matter how you try to deny it.

This is the best animu of the last 2 seasons, literally nothing can get near its level+trigger /a/utists as much as this masterpiece in the making. Those who even try and begin to think otherwise probably have the shittiest taste ever known to man or are just deluding themselves. It is literally impossible to dislike this show and those who do probably need to consult a doctor.
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>>144670317
But what if he's not in the same place as where he left the note?
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>>144670269
>see paper
>read paper
>no idea who wrote it
>why should I believe it, anybody can write anything
>discard paper
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>>144670092
>Making an attempt to save them and failing is very different than just straight up not giving a fuck about the cult slaughtering them and sitting in the capital reading some books.
You're right. But making an attempt and failing because you simply can't fight but acting like big shit and getting your shit slapped is dumb.

>He's managed to clear things while barely hitting around 10 loops up to this point, which isn't bad at all compared to the probably thousands the people complaining about training would have before even getting past Elsa.
He's barely done shit. I was hoping for more of the stuff where he'd break out of a time loop by doing something completely out of the ordinary and train a lot or gain new skills and become some tricky bastard and every week we'd see him get out of a new jam or into a new jam and have to clever asshole his way out of it.
But he doesn't. It's just bad shit happening and him acting like a twat.

>What is the point of anything in life?
>He wants friends, love, etc. and he wants to protect them. These are his goals as a character. Coincidentally he has a shit personality and it actively hinders his attempts at acquiring the things that he wants.
No, I mean if these violent people are so above him and training is useless and he has a shit personality so he can't use his knowledge to manipulate or learn how to change things on an interpersonal level, then what's the fucking point of the series.
To just watch this fucktard get his shit slapped over and over again?
To be honest, I'm not THAT much of a sadist. bruh. I can't completely disengage like that.

>It's no secret that he has some extremely major flaws, they're a plot point in the story.
They aren't a plot point.
They are a source of cheap drama.
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>>144670183
Why doesn't Suzuki just address a letter to whoever he wants to kill in which he explains his ability, creating a death note?
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>>144670380
Because she will kill him while he's writing it.
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>>144670355
Blame the writing on that one. Beako knows almost everything but doesn't want to be involved in the bloodshed. She just wants a peaceful life. She could have easily nuked the entire cult but chose to just remain neutral.
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>>144670387
>Subaru Natsuki can return by death
>t. Subaru Natsuki

Or better yet
>Yo bro read what I wrote it's hilarious
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>>144670413
>Dear Whale
>I can revive
>Suzuki
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>>144670411
>To just watch this fucktard get his shit slapped over and over again?
Pinpon, anon-kun. Now live with it or drop it.
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>>144670413
The Witch won't necessarily kill anyone he tells about his power to, just people she doesn't want
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>>144670455
Can Beako beat Satella?
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>>144670254
He's not.

He doesn't display that.
He doesn't honestly believe that he's a level 1 knight whos' there to protect her and everything else is secondary because his numerous deaths have driven him partially insane.

He's just a cunt.
That's all.

His entire thing with emilia has so far been a secondary thing in the story and is not a major thrust of his character. It's only an informed thing.
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>>144670524
And there's about a hundred different ways to stop someone from reading a letter that doesn't involve killing them.

Destroying the letter, for example.
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>>144670530
Only Rienheart and puck could beat satella.
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>>144670411
He burns a time loop to learn to read and write and learns magic in another. Its pretty apparent at this point that Subaru hates dying and will only use time he knows he has to spare to learn new skills. Right now he has no clue exactly how much time he needs to save Emilia and the villagers.
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>>144670455
>wants a peaceful life
>so does nothing to stop those who will destroy that peaceful life
>doesn't want bloodshed
>so stands idle and allows preventable bloodshed to transpire
You can blame a lot on the writing, I think.
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>>144670530
I doubt it. The LN makes it seems like Satella is stupidly strong.
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>>144670460
>Why should I believe it? Such ability doesn't exist, and you're an attentionwhoring idiot as you've proved duribg episode 13. If you're that desperate for attention, go hug a wall. Get thw fuck out you're wasting my time.
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If the whale is a known threat and they have tried to stop it before, why dont they just send Reinhardt after it?
>inb4 muh first master swordsman was killed
If that shitty whale can kill Reinhardt, he is just a bitch and all those people saying how he is pretty much a god are just liars
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>>144670621
>>144670569
What if Subaru told Satella he could revive? Would she have to kill herself?
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>>144661639

Thank you!
Idk wtf is up with this show but it's getting ridiculous. I understand that he can't tell anyone about the curse do to the curses affect but fuck, he really does act like a fucking retarded douchbag. He doesn't use his brain and thinks he's always right or thinks he has the right to do whatever tf he wants even at the cost of others.
[Spoiler] When the white whale made Otto forget about the other merchants riding with them and then again made Otto forget about Rem and then Ram forgot about Rem, He should've fucking realized something was going on instead being so fucking retarded getting all furious at Ram. He should know damn well that crazy shit has been happening to him so he should quit being an idiot already.
I really dislike Subaru now and I see him as a true villain. He's a menace to himself and a menace to others. He's like a plague.
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>>144670617
Safe to say that it's shit writing.
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>>144670625
Same could be said if he outright said it.

And yet he still can't.
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>>144670617
Well Subaru doesn't know this, but killing himself doesn't stop anything
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>>144670646
The whale is a needed plot device so that's not going to happen.
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>>144668475
I liked the acting, it fit that "adaptation" feel
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>>144670658
>Idk wtf
>[Spoiler]
You have to go back
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>>144670658

due*
I was typing too fast "due" to my anger with this show.
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>>144670651
If this ever happened, the series would be over. Since he's talking to her, the seal is broken.
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>>144670669
Which implies he cannot do it by writing either.
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>>144670651
>You look at Person A's pantsu
>Person A has a gun
>Person A shoots whoever you tell about her pantsu
>You tell her about her own pantsu
Do you honestly think she would shoot herself
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>>144670646
>Reinhardt

Been playing too much Overwatch I see. His name is Reinhard, but I would see how you would get the names confused.
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>>144670733
But we're talking about its potential as a weapon.
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>>144670188
He knows that telling people about it will make monsters come. So he should know it's dangerous as fuck.

>>144670190
Let's take this RPG analogy even further.
So far our boy subaru is level 10.
He can learn level 100 sword techniques and magic techniques.
But since his stamina and mana pool are so low he can only use the higher level ones a few times and the magic ones once.
He can learn multiple skills because he has infinite time and skill growth potential HOWEVER his growth is gated behind a fairly complex QTE that can only be attempted once before you have to start the game over and lose hours of leveling progress.
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>>144670658
It's because he thinks they're all playing him and out trying to get him, since he's the hero and deserves everything.
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>>144670725

idgaf. I fucking wanna punch Subaru's dumb ass.
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>>144670211
Sort of

It's like a half awareness, she knows some things/mostly about it, but i would say not 100%
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>>144670772
Jizz on the paper, hope it becomes letters which relay his message. Nobody would ever know.
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Why doesnt subaru just tell reinhardt? He has a blessing that lets him die once, and he could then inform emilia, although i understand expending that blessing could be bad later
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>>144670774
The problem lies in that Subaru, unlike the RPG residents of Despair town, remains a normal human aside from the use of his debuff magic, he will never be capable of effortlessly wielding heavy weapons like Rem or displaying great physical feats.
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>>144670569
Reinhard is in a league of his own far above Puck.

Satella is in a league of her own above Reinhard. Reinhards blessings are almost all utility, support, and defensive in nature. His attack is actually pretty weak for someone of his level, he just out levels everyone else by that much. His attack is also heavily reliant on factors he has no control over and his big finisher can only be used once in a while.

A fight between him and Satella would be an eternal draw, his attack can't beat Satellas defence and her attack doesn't have the variety it needs to get past all his immunities.
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>>144670793

Exactly, you're definitely right. He's an arrogant insecure idiotic brat thinking he's even a Hero in the first place and thinking everything should go his way. That's why he's the real villain in my opinion.
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>>144670830
I wish people would examine my cum carefully enough to make words out of it.
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>>144670908
He was wielding that giant club pretty good in ep...2?
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Even though the show is pissing me off cause of Subaru, it has good artwork in my opinion. So on one hand I want to stop watching it cause the MC is shit but all the other characters are chill and the art is good.
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>>144670942
Would Sauron beat Reinhard?
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How come Satella just didn't choose someone more competent?
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>>144671000
The worst characters are actually Subaru and Emilia.
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>>144671025
Because someone more competent wouldn't love and try to save her.
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>>144661639
I would agree if it was established that Subaru is clever or knows how to communicate well with others, but it's been established that he's awkward and kind of stupid. It makes sense that even after so many cycles, he can't figure out how to get around a geas or come up with a plausible explanation for his "precognition" like I don't know, precognition. Also how has he still not figured out that the white whale somehow removes the memory of anyone it kills? Once again, he's stupid.
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Of course, I'm sure we all prefer Rem over Emilia. I could say she's the next least favorable character but she doesn't bother me as much as Subaru. She has her small likable qualities but I'd agree she's next in line to be annoying hopeless.
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>>144671127
>how has he still not figured out that the white whale somehow removes the memory of anyone it kills

Same reason he couldn't figure out the nice lady who wants to buy the amulet was the same one who killed him and Emilia the first time around. Not like they had the same voice or anything.
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>>144671127
But Subaru has a PERFECT bullshit explanation, he could say he gets visions or information thanks to the Witch, his stench is apparently clear proof of a connection so it should stand.
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>>144668307
>Mob Psycho
>Good Anime
Nothing you say ever again can be taken seriously
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>>144671127

I wouldn't mind so much about his stupidity if it weren't for his overly aggressive arrogance. That's what pisses me off most. He's blindly arrogant and becomes very disrespectful to everyone.
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>>144671238
Least until the curse ends up killing him or something
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>>144671238
Ok, there's like a million excuses you could make up and you chose the one that would make him the most suspicious.
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I'm just starting out but I'm enjoying these Iseki animes.

Is there more manga/anime like this?

Also when does he get his act together? I'm on episode 3 and he seems a bit dim witted.
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>>144666202
To be fair, I don't expect a fairly average Japanese high schooler to be able to handle revealing an assassination plot by himself while traumatized by dying several times and seeing horrible things happen to his loved ones.

Am more hardened person would probably say he's almost there. I mean he knows where to get transport and he knows he can make it in time. Now he just needs to practice shouting "The Witch's cult is coming!" and figure out a faster way around the White Whale.
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Also everyone jumping on the whale killing= erasing memories is a clear example of hindsight, sure Subaru not linking the events is retarded but it jumping to the whale is hasty, it could be any number of bullshit reasons such as getting lost in the fog or coming in contact with the whale
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>>144663549
>No seriously. It doesn't take a genius to realize you have a power to time reset after dying- especially since you maintain the memories of the previous timeline and you suddenly teleport.

Occam's razor.
The simplest explanation is that he was moved back to the Appa Man, not "It's a time loop!"
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>>144671375
>Somehow ignore that every single event is repeating itself
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>>144671320
Yes but he's already seen to people immediately forgotten after likely physical contact with the whale.

>>144671298
>get his act together
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>>144671249
Oh no my internet reputation is ruined.
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>>144671428
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>>144671025
Because she's not in love with anyone else.
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>>144668250
Subaru doesn't tell Emilia people are coming to kill her and just goes REEEEEEE WHY WONT YOU DO WHAT I SAY
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>>144671320
Well not really. First merchant that gets whale'd immediately gets forgotten.
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>>144671320
I don't think it's hindsight if we as viewers can immediately deduce that it's from the whale. And we're exposed to the same information as him.

Yeah sure, I actually thought the merchant guy was like an illusion or something but once Otto forgot Rem it was pretty obvious.
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>>144671474
There is nothing about Subaru that is lovable.
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>>144671520
Try telling that to the yandere Elder Goddess watching Subaru 24/7.
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ooooooo! Puck finna whoop some ass!!! Just finished the latest ep. Fuck I hope shit starts to turn around for the better.
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Alright /a/, so given the same information as Subaru, what would you do the next time loop to save everyone?
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>>144671233
You would think that in that quiet surreal place, the thing that would jump out to you and have the most concentration on would be the voice of your killer.
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>>144671520
I love to hate him. Does that count? I wish I could strangle the little cunt.
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>>144671557
Probably just give up, fuck everyone else. Move on and pretend nothing happened.
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>>144671549
>Fuck I hope shit starts to turn around for the better.
Oh boy
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>>144671520
I love his tracksuit
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>>144671605
The hell are you gonna do though? It's not like you could go back to being a hikki.

And being an appa farmer doesn't sound too appealing.
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>>144671651
>And being an appa farmer doesn't sound too appealing.
Making an honest living and going from there will be easy as fuck compared to going in Suffaru's current direction.
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>>144664022
>>144664530
>>144664588

Honestly I don't think it even matters even if he did tell Emilia about the witch cult.

Lets assume its midday at the beginning of the loop - in front of the apple stand. In the first loop he spends that night with Crusch. Then he spends another half a day dicking around at Crusch's manor before Rem gets the feedback from Ram. Then they take a path that takes 2.5 days to reach the manor then Rem ditches Subaru. Then Subaru arrives the following midday at the manor and everyone is already dead. I'd say it takes 4.5 days the first loop and about 4 days when the attack is initiated.

In second loop Subaru spends the night with a mental breakdown. They leave for the manor in the morning probably taking the long path since Rem is warned about the white whale from Crusch. They camp out some where along the road. They are assailed by cultist en route to the manor and well you know the rest. This loop probably takes 3.5 days since they spent less time in the capital and Subaru wasn't dicking around trying to find a ride to the manor.

In the third loop he spends the evening being rejected by Crusch and the night AWAY at an inn. Then spends the next day trying to convince the other candidates before heading off on the short path in the evening - no warning from Crusch this time. He meets the merchants that night but sets off for the manor at night. After the white whale, he arrives in the morning but passes out. The short path takes half a day in comparison to the long path. Assuming he was passed out for a day it takes him 3 days to arrive at the mansion.

Considering eps 17 and how he held Emilia from morning to evening and considering he meets up with the cult at the end of that day he had maybe 1 day at most to arrange for the defense of the manor and the evacuation of the village. Of which he had no troops and no transportation. There was nothing they could have done.
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>>144671549
We're in arc 3 now. He's still the same 3 arc's later in the WN. He's still incompetent. You would think after a few murders under you're belt something would change.
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>>144671557
Try again with just a single carriage and see if I could sneak by since I'm not in a huge caravan making a ton of noise. Also, since I wouldn't need to waste time trying to convince the Candidates, I could head out a lot earlier.
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>>144669921
I want to know the answer to this.
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>>144671605
Knowing subaru's situation he'd probably be hunted by something or other if he tried that.
'Taking this loop off' usually ends badly, and acts to remind the character why they're torturing themselves so much.
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>>144671651
Become a jew and mess with Felt.
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does everyone know about the white whale but not know his abilities?
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>>144671721
I'm pretty sure the smell would still get the whale on your ass.
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>>144671557

Try to gather a small army by telling people where the White Whale is going to appear, maybe
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>>144671738
Erase=!Kill
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>>144671557
Punch catboy in the face, tell green hair that I know she's gathering weapons and money and I want in, she'll say no; so I'll drop White Whales name and leave. Ignore the blonde hair bitch and say hello to Al. Dig my finger in Mimi's ear and tell Anastasia that I have info to sell. If everything goes right, Wilhelm or catboy will show up before the exchange for counter offer.
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>>144671709
Considering how everyone got owned in the first 2 loops there was no way they could muster a defense or evacuate with no transportation in that amount of time.

So surprisingly Subaru was actually extremely RATIONAL about what he needed to do next. ABANDON EVERYTHING AND JUST TAKE EMILIA. But do you think Emilia would agree to do that? Abandoning the villagers?

I mean if you can't save the world why can't you try to save yourself?
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>>144670658
Emilia pls go
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>>144671916
>save yourself
He can't even do this. He can't save anyone.
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>>144670183
Look mom I just posted it again xd
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>>144663321
> Doesn't pick up on painfully obvious.
It is said Subaru is very dense so he doesn't know how to really pick up on things thus being incompetent to a fault. We known this for a long time he's a dense dumbass.
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>>144671557
Train and learn everything I could about the world and the people in it. Commit suicide and keep doing it until I had a run where I had enough allies and training to handle the Witch Cult.
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>>144671711

True that. True muthafuckin that. Incompetent ass nigga.
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>>144671982
I know don't you love the irony? He tried so hard to save Emilia but she died because of HIM. HA.
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Why has nobody mentioned that subaru has a picture of all of them on his phone, including rem? This whole thing with her not existing is a non issue
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>>144672146
No battery/probably gets nroken on each loop.
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>>144672146
She'd be gone from the picture.
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>>144672146
If even her shit is gone how do you expect her to still be in the pic.
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>>144666008

The magic has it's own rules. Suzuki Honda was (presumably) dragged into this world by Satella, with the end goal being, either she gets a husband, she gets a new vessel or she gets freed, possibly all of the above. This magic allows return by death, and prevents him from talking about it.

There is no lapse in logic in what we've been presented.
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Subaru is fucking autistic.
You to the town looking beaten up in a half destroyed carriage.

You know the cultists will strike soon. Just say you got ambushed by the cultists and were lucky to survive. That way everyone can prepare for defense/Ice spirit can prep too.

I understand he's not supposed to be that intelligent but there are limits to one's stupidity.
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>>144672146
The whale erasure probably got that, too. Just like how Rem's room was just a storage room post-erasure.
It's not just a mindwipe, it's straight up reality-bending continuity-distorting magic.
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>>144672195
>but there are limits to one's stupidity.
Anon, I have bad news.
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>>144672195
lol shit had me laughing
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>>144670411
>characters having flaws is cheap drama
sounds pretty dumb senpai
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>>144671916

>So surprisingly Subaru was actually extremely RATIONAL about what he needed to do next. ABANDON EVERYTHING AND JUST TAKE EMILIA.

extremely RATIONAL
would be abandon everything including Emilia
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>>144672076
You know when people ask why doesn't he abuse Return by Death others often respond by saying the witch's smell increases. The problem with that is we don't have any indication in canon of what that actually means.

I've got a theory of what might happen if the witch's scent gets worse. It primarily comes from the events of eps 10 and a bit of 17. In eps 10 in order to lure Rem to him he attempts to tell Ram about Return by Death to bait the witch beasts. This works because they are attracted to the witch scent. In eps 17 the whale is attracted to him because of this - in which Otto then pushes Subaru off the cart.

What happens when the scent grows too strong? By the current evidence it doesn't look like the scent increase by too much however I wonder what will happen when he reaches a certain peak where by merely going outside he draws fiends, beast and maybe epic monsters like the whale to himself. They could be towns, forest and mountains away and he would draw them in like a beacon. He'd become a walking magnet of destruction where ever he went.

Just a theory though. Some food for thought.
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>>144672195
Most of the time when he is considered stupid or dense, alot of it has to do with his own bullshit and pride to raise himself higher and only think about himself and not others if you think about it.
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>>144672235
>lol shit had me laughing
Re Zero threads, everyone

>>144672245
This
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>>144672187
Because he remembers? Maybe his world stuff doesn't follow the same rules. Not a garantee, but work a check at least.
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>>144672279
>Confidence in motion
Oh the ironing
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>>144672282
Even if it did work, it accomplishes absolutely nothing.
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>>144661639
>Then Subaru keeps acting like a retard making everything worse.
I really hate how people keep saying this. "Subaru keeps acting like a retard"
I had thought more people on /a/ were autistic hikikomori NEETs and had experience with mental illness.

Subaru has been killed several times. He has experienced the pain several times. He has seen people he cares about die several times. He is fucked up, buddy. Fucked up. How the fuck do you reckon he's thinking straight? When he met Emilia in the last episode, he may have seemed like a retard trying to simply tell Emilia to trust him and to escape. But that's what his thought process has been reduced to, at least for now.

Nobody listens to him. Nobody escapes. There's only suffering. He wants it to just stop, but he's too broken to do anything. For now
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>>144672245
Well he did consider it. But thoughts of Rem's sacrifice clouded his judgement.

It's all those dead waifu's man they just get in your head.
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>>144672187
Because he obviously remembers you mong. If he's unaffected what makes you think that the cellphone, which comes from the same place he does, isn't also unaffected?
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How many deaths does it take until you become numb to it?
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>>144672334

I think homeboy popped a mushroom or something and is on a very bad trip.
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>>144672389
Why don't you kill yourself and find out
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>>144672408
I won't revive like Subaru.
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>>144667734
>He also knows that certain conditions have to be met to break out of one.
I don't remember him figuring that out. for all he knows if he spends too long in a loop he'll get stuck with a bad ending he can never escape.
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apparently to subaru dying multiple times in the most grusome way doesnt make you immune to the thought of dying
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>>144672347
>which comes from the same place he does

Because it's never stated that that's the reason he remembers, retard.

Why not just take fucking selfies of him with dead Emilia every time.
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Q: How many deaths does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A: It doesn't matter how many times he tries he always fucks everything up.
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>>144672346
That image never gets old
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>>144672419
Only one way for you to find out, faggot.
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>>144672454
holy shit why hasnt he done that? u might be on to something anon
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To those of you who think stupidity and density has its limits, you take a good long look at this and tell me if there really is a limit.
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>>144672346
Well the good ends usually come from him disassociating himself with figures important in their world.
Like, for instance, the assassination target with low security that is essentially a walking nuke.
The pedo clown girl/boy.
etc.

He got fucked in the alley repeatedly because Emilia.
He got fucked in the bar repeatedly because Emilia.
He got fucked

Then he loses his shit because muh oneitis won't give me perfect end and has to be calmed by, guess who? Emilia; as she prepares him to be abruptly fucked by the deceiving clown leaving a gaping hole in his security(it seems only he emilia and the maids are his only force) so Beetlejuice can fuck his shit up.
Then you go on to see him rinse and repeat for the white whale etc.

TL;DR
>Embrace Satella
>Acquire security and waifu
>???
PROFIT
And then Reinhardt probably appears and fucks your shit up as you run around until he dies of age, assuming that's possible
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Theres a place on Ocean Ave
Where I use to sit and talk with you
We were both 16 and it "Felt" so right
Sleeping all day staying up all
Niiiiiiiiight
-Yellowcard
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Why do so many people see the respawn as a super power that Subaru can take advantage of instead of a curse that condemns him to suffering
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>>144672574
Because people are retarded. How do you not understand this by now?
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>>144672526

….ok so apparently stupidity doesn't have any limits.
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>>144672574
When life gives you lemons
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>>144672491
What's your problem?
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>>144672574
Because people on /a/ are back seat MC who fancy themselves great manipulators and have nerves of steel.
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>>144672454
Nigger I read the LN and that's exactly how it works. Eat a dick
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>>144672254
If it ever get's that dense something would at least materialize. With so much power being around.
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why does no one seem to appreciate the fact his power is both sapient and malicious?
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>>144672556
Is there a trend that the checkpoints always appear around when has a chance to abandon Emilia?
i.e. the Reinhardt / Emilia choice before his wakeup in the Manor checkpoint

his current anime checkpoint. etc
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>>144672678
Who says it's malicious?
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what is this subaru with a spoon meme
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>>144672619
I can't fuck Ferris.
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>>144672623
>tfw I'd start a comfy life far away in an early loop
>no strong scent should mean that I attract no trabu
>grow old and die on a comfy farm with a homely wife and kids
>wake up decades later talking to one of the merchants who sells my appas

Alternatively 2 weeks into this alternate life puck nukes the world
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>>144672628
Then why are you asking questions you already know the answer to?

Either the writing's dumb, Subaru's dumb or you're dumb.
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>>144672574
Because I could fuck a loli, kill myself, and rape her fresh hymen again.
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naruto
bleach
pokemon
onepiece
fairytail
yugioh
one punch man
inuyasha
tokyo ghoul
sailor moon
assassination classroom
hunter x hunter
dragonball
sword art online
my hero academia
reborn
sonic
soul eater
attack on titan
fruit basket
cowboy bebop
death note
food wars
digimon
blue exorcist
zach bell
black lagoon
gate
log horizon
blood lad
ghost in shell
vampire knight
god eater
no game no life
hellsing
closed case
noragami
AND MUCH MUCH MORE!
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>>144672746
>On /a/
>No strong scent
Good joke senpai
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>>144672763
>hurr durr everyone's dumb except me
the faggot who asked the question obviously didn't read the LN you retard
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>>144672853

you're the retard. You're more retarded than Subaru
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So shit gets real in the next episode?
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>>144672853
Then what are you arguing for if it's only stated the LN.

Damn son, are you the next Subaru?
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>>144662236
>Muuuh, I like series about mentally retarded manchildren despised by everyone saving the day.

Self insert much? At least Subaru has the courage to actually kill himself.
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>>144672574
1.Because Subaru doesn't have the kind of personality hat lets you empathize with him. So his fear of death means nothing.

2.He's thrown his life away and even thought of using his return from death thing multiple times.

3.The return from death isn't shown to have much in the way of major consequences outside of drawing monsters that would have come to him anyway.

If say, after he died he was sent to something akin to a horrible hell where he's tortured or burned or whatever before he revives?
And each time he dies the time there is extended ON TOP of luring monsters from that hell and other monsters too you?
Sure. I'd see it as a bad thing and would STILL think he would be better served by being cautious with his deaths.
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>>144672663
I actually think that this is the true endgame. Where he might decide to runaway from everything on Mt.Doom in order to protect everyone from himself.

There he battles daemons and beasts drawn to him but Satella moves the checkpoint there on Mt.Doom because he's slaying great beast similar to the whale. Until he's so engrossed in death and isolated that he'll have no choice but to submit to Satella as an escape from constant fighting and death.

There the witch of envy is able to finally absorb the father of all sin pride.
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>>144672703
Episode 16.

Ask for army. Green said no. Threaten to kill everyone with spoon.
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>>144672526
>watch me commit sudoku with a spoon
>that'll show everyone I mean business
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Subaru gets worse with every passing episode.
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>>144669840
lol, didn't think of this, he basically has an area of effect insta-kill attack doesn't he?
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>>144673030
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>>144673027
Unless he takes out the dragon. Setalla could never claim him. If anything, Subaru will slay monsters on Mt. Doom forever. But knowing Subaru he will say in towns and cities and kill everyone through drawn beasts because he doesn't want to be alone.
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>>144672746
>implying Reinhardt wouldn't cut him down and go find a new loli queen, considering Felt would be dead
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>>144672788
Please kill yourself.
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White Fox: Forced drama
Ufotable: Forced CG
KyoAni: Forced animation
Shaft: Forced voice actors
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>>144666677

You do know that Emilia was randomly rescued by Subaru in the beginning, and all the tolerance that he is shown is BECAUSE he saved her right to compete for the throne, right?
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>>144665228
>Stop it with that self-insert shit
I am not the one self-inserting, though.
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>>144672788
Zach Bell is great, shit your whore mouth.
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>>144672890
>>144672923
>Samefagging this hard
Pretty mad, aren't we?
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>>144666450
>He's seen magic in that world, he's a straight up otaku. He realizes what's going on after the third time.

Denial extends a hell of a whole lot further than just seeing things. Denial extends all the way past seeing something and assuming that there is nothing more.

>"Oh, there's magic. I understand all the rules now and there is nothing more to learn. I am enlightened and all-powerful!"

That is the greatest flaw of pride and hubris.
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>>144673308
Trigger: Forced memes
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If you like this show at this point you're literally just encouraging this man to make more shitty movies.
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>>144672254
Good point, I didn't think about the smell.
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>>144661639
No, its forced retardness. On occasions author wants, Subaru turns into braindead moron.
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>>144666666
>>144666700
>>144666677
RIP THREAD
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ITT: overzealous fans that cant deal with fact that recently the show became just bad because of how shitty Subaru became
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all these self insertfags complaining about Subaru should go read Macbeth and learn what an anti hero is
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>>144663321

>he's unrealistic

Confirmed for new here and quite possibly to mankind in general if you think the way Subaru acts isn't humanly possible.
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>>144673487

Subaru being shitty is only Subaru. If Subaru remains shitty until the end and the story moves onward with Subaru reaping gary stu benefits, then the story becomes bad.

Subaru becomes shitty, and his situation gets shitty because of it. It is actually very GOOD for a story to do that.

Now, does Subaru learn or die as a protagonist? That is what I want to know next.
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People protecting current state of Re Zero are just delusional. Its almos as badly written as SAO Laugthing Coffin ark.
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>>144663064
literally the definition of autism
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>>144673702
This show may be shit, but you're a virgin.
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>>144671738
the whale has a particular 'erase from history' attack? it can kill you in a bunch of ways, only one of which will result in everyone forgetting about you?

The bigger question is why does Subaru remember her?
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At his point, with how shit Subaru is here, it's not looking too good for Season 2, is it?

I think this one's just gonna fade away somehow. All because of Subaru.
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Funny how Barusu doesn't want to die but still want to save his little 5-minute-fall-in-love girl EMT. Gotta love his retardated mind
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>>144669840
because the witch controls when and what happens when he tries to tell people, if she noticed he was trying to use it as weapon she'd change what happens to him.
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This summer is way too long
Though its no longer summer here
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>>144673813
>it's not looking too good for Season 2, is it?
Hopefully not.
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>>144673867
>complaining about summer in "SAO of the season" thread
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Why can't Rem be happy?
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>>144673858
>retardated
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>>144673875
>SAO fans mad at the superior isekai
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>>144673702
>>144673784
People acting contrarian without specific examples within the story and acting lazy in explanations are even worse. Betelgeuse was right, you people are all SLOTH.
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is show is seriously bad I'm going to drop it i think
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>>144671605
my guess is he is not allowed to do that by the witch, so something will force him into the path that she wants.
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>>144673977
So anyone who doesn't like your crappy AOTS is fond of SAO? That's pretty cool kouhai

>>144673987
Ihaveaneatingdisorder.jpg
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>>144674019
>AOTS
Agreed, senpai.
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>>144674034
If I'm your fucking senpai then you better listen to what I tell you, you little shit.
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>>144674051
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>>144669973
as much as this seems to be repeating what people already said, some people just cant into sympathy, they cant think that someone react differently to them, especially in anime where they cant self insert (or self insert too hard).

just put yourself in subaru shoes, got denied hard a day before by 3 bitches, got wrecked by white whale, suddenly no one remembers rem, and you think subaru can think straight?

>>in before, subaru is a retard, if i am the mc blablabla bullshit

im done with these guys.
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>>144664022
>In the new episode Subaru kept rambling and forcing himself on Emilia instead of mentioning the witch cult.
I don't see how that was well written.

He did that with the green haired bitch and she asked him how he knew what he knew.
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>>144674098
>sympathy
It's called empathy and Volkswagen is severely lacking in that area.
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>>144674098
Strawman.

The main complaint is shitty writing - i.e. transition of Subaru turning from good MC, right after major victory and saving people into total autistic retard.

And no, you cant explain it with his stress accumulating or character development. It was just author starting new ark and thus deciding that from now on Subaru should be a retard for plot purposes.
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>>144674074
If you understand, then shut up and go to class.

I'll walk you there.
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>>144674019
>>144674019
> Eating disorder
The real eating disorders are these guys.
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>>144674204
Beetle is a reaction image goldmine
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>>144664588
He was clearly not in sane state when he was on that carriage. It wouldn't be surprising if he simply did not notice them
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>>144667164
Fun fact, its been told that he can retain the magic that he's learned, cause once he's absorbed sloth, and greeds authority you'd expect him to forget them once he died, but nope. Magic is tied to his mind. He hasn't been training his mental battle until he wears the Royal Black Guard clothing, and becomes Sauron.
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What did Greycat post on twitter about this episode this time anons?
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>>144664022
Exactly. And people defend Subaru for no reason at all.

Most of the shit Toyota does is absolutely irredeemably stupid, because the writer is. Nothing you say about how his mental health is fucking up will change that fact.
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>>144667734
you've obviously never attempted suicide, it doesn't get any easier the second time.
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>>144672197
>MC has hax power
>All antags have different kinds of hax to fuck him over
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Fuck off, IRC
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>>144674355
Because everyone self-inserts as Emilia when Subaru didn't move like readers want him to move.
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If you're new - also by extension: triggered easily(99% of you) - you should look at this handy /a/ guide to what an /a/non says, and what he actually means.

You're welcome.
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Re:Zero is a good anime.
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plz spoil me. do Puck manage to kill Beatlejuice?
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>>144674535
>bad writing
Its just these /a/nons who dont seem to understand the anime is rushing so quick, so there are scenes cut off
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>>144674425
Not that anon, but just stop it will you? Guy has died a dozen times by now and has killed himself with his own consent twice. It's pedantic to argue this at this point.
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>tfw everyone is fighting and you just see it as anime finally starting to be become good again
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>>144664681
>The writing stinks of plot convenience all the time
examples please.

>>144664915
>>Oh, you want to tell everyone that you can respawn? Nope magic evil hands out the ass.

Even your average /a/utist can interpret this as Satella(or whomever brought him there) restricting him from saying anything. Did you not see Betelgeuse's "Hands of God"?

>>144667734
>>He doesn't know if his next death may be his last
He's committed suicide before. That no longer has any weight.
>>Dying is scary, painful, traumatic, etc. and you have a very strong natural instinct to avoid it that is hard to overcome
See above.

I'd like to know your logic on that.
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>>144674609
>implying people who unironically type "bad writing" have read the LN/WN
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>>144674608
Along with Subaru, yes.
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>>144674543
Careful with that edge.
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>>144674654
I dont read moon runes but there are a few wnfags who can, Im talking about the rest who shitpost
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>>144674608
He destroys him.

"Only this level of power and you borrow the witch's name? You are 400 years too early. If you want to kill me.."

"..at least show half of Satella's, 1000 shadows."
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>>144671127
Subaru is the best girl
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>>144674425
I've actually died before, twice actually.
I remember feeling a good sleep wash over me and warmth and then I heard a loud scream wake me up.
Then I turned to nurse or doctor standing there and and asked her to turn off that loud racket. They kept asking me stuff and I don't know. I then asked her what that loud beep sound that kept waking me up was and she said that was my fucking heart monitor. The loud beep of the thing woke me up.
LOL Holy shit.
Why did I find that funny.
Anyway, yeah. He knows he's going to die and wake up so..why not take advantage of it.

>>144674319
That actually sounds awesome. Too bad we'll have to wade through god knows how much of "My little MC can't be this fucking retarded" to get to that coolness.
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>>144674355
> Mental health
Stop this bullshit. Subaru is dwells on the past too much during that scene and was emotional. Mental health my ass. If he said ANYTHING ever rational, that would go against character and that would be bad writing. Fucking idiots. That would be a contradiction.
>>144674191
> Subaru
> Good mc from the beginning that turns into an autistic retard
> Beginning
> Good
Even I know this is bullshit from the beginning. Since when was he a "good" mc from the beginning? He was always prideful and stupid. His every action and dialogue implies that. Examples of his pride being hurt from the first half:
> When he was being tortured by Rem and he started saying stuff that he accomplished.
> Him thinking he could be the hero alot of the times and he only got out because of his dumb luck.
> Him saying to Elsa that he has his pride.
> In arc 2 where before he committed suicide, he had no sense of self worth left until he regained it later to end his life.
Him being a fucking idiot (that is not inconsistent):
> Taking too long to realize his first three deaths.
> His very stupidity in that weird pose.
> Trying to fight an assassin alone.
> Going in to save Rem without help until Ram went along.
Clearly, what you believe not to be the same was the same all along.
> Transition
There was no "change". The recent arc fleshed out how truly flawed that alot of you seem to not noticed. And guess what? You still can't comprehend. Idiots.
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>>144674665
>puck can't kill beetlejuice without catching subaru in the cross-hairs

Dude needs to learn how to position his AoE spells so they don't hit allies.
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>>144674844
What allies
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when will Subaru get his own kkk amry?
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>>144672788
>This post
What did he mean by this?
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>>144674880
Subaru.
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>>144674905
What allies
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>>144674654
Probably because Re:Zero is easily one of the dullest anime in the history of
animes.

Perhaps the die was cast when Nagatsuki vetoed the idea of KyoAni producing
the series; he made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art
that meant anything to anybody?just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for
his LN. The Re:Zero series might be wish fulfillment (or not), but it’s
certainly the anti-Code Geass series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and
excitement. No one wants to face that fact.

>But at least the LN are ggood though!
The writing is dreadful; the LN was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every
time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character
"stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated.
I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was
incredulous. Nagatsuki's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that
he has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of
Re:Zero by the same Nisio Isin. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these
kids are reading Re:Zero at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on
to read Nisio Isin." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you
read "Re:Zero" you are, in fact, trained to read Nisio Isin
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>>144674808
That was not death anon, that was the sensation of dying. Actual state of being dead is probably akin to not being aware of anything eternally. Unless you have some sort of religion or philosophy that explains what death is; barring that there is no snapping back to life once you are dead.
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