Post your face when no episode on the 24th
>>144615221
>one week to fix green mohawk guy's hand
>2 weeks until Vegeta and Trunks start training
>>144616047
he better fucking come out of the chamber with long fucking hair again or else....
>>144615221
>>144615221
>finally an arc written by toriyama
>week break
Gohan better stop being a scrub after this
>>144616143
>>144616659
>>144615221
how can a literal recolor of Goku be so fucking based?
>>144616143
Long hairand gains, but I know this probably won't happen.
>>144616659
Damn that's sexy.
>>144616528
>finally an arc written by toriyama
was there ever an arc without the plot outline done by Toriyama himself?
are you referring to fillers?
>>144615221
>>144617287
it feels closer to DBZ than previous arc which are shitty versions of two 1 hour and a half movies.
>>144617567
you do realize Toriyama overhauled and completely rewrote the script of BoG after Toei gave him the script for the movie?
God form initially had a cape and Beerus was going to be a sinister crocodile etc.
>>144615221
I'm hoping Black won't get the white hair super saiyan form. too boring
>>144617974
Thank god Toriyama rewrote the script, imagine how stupid a SSG with a cape would look.
>>144616659
Webm version.
>>144615647
>Trunks Briefs
>Briefs
I wonder who started that stupid meme. Funi?
>>144619052
thats his name though. Trunks is his first name and Bulma's last name is Briefs. since Trunks is her son he too would have her last name.
>>144619052
shitty b8 m8
>>144619113
Briefs is just Bulma's father name, it's not a family name.
>>144619052
Name puns are everywhere in Dragonball. It's a Toriyama thing.
>>144615221
Was Black Goku Toei or Toriyama's idea?
>>144615221
Who gives a shit? I still have no idea why anyone is watching this at all.
>>144619322
(You).
>>144619322
I agree with episodes 1-46 those are no good but this Black Goku arc is shaping up to be one of the best arcs in DB.
>>144616528
>Gohan better stop being a scrub after this
well can only hope
>>144619457
Worst thing Super did was kill Ginyu, nobody asked for that.
>>144619694
>nobody asked for that.
you say that for a lot of things in Super.
>>144619615
I feel like 52 all but promised Gohan won't get back in action. It should happen, and there's ways it could happen that would make sense, but it won't.
>Goku wants to train.
>Whis said no.
>King Kai told him to get lost.
>Can't even train with Goten because of the studying gag.
>Vegeta will be training with Trunks.
There isn't a lot left in potential sparring partners.
>>144619457
Do we know who he is yet?
>>144619953
Next episode is about his real identity.
>>144619867
>all but promised Gohan won't get back in action
Gohan was really bummed he couldn't go to the tournament with Goku and the others. he really wanted to show off his progression. At some point Gohan will show up in the fight.
long as there isn't a conference. but you know what pisses me off the most about the conference. he turned down the job anyway so at this point there wasn't any reason to even show up to the conference and be there to help his dad. apart from Super blue balling Gohan fans.
>>144619867
52 pretty much said Gohan isn't fighting anymore
Can't comprehend how you got it the other way around
>>144620093
I never thought of that. That really makes the conference entirely pointless. But then again, so is the scholar thing as a whole, as pretty much every good aspect of his life is owed to fighting in one form or another.
>>144620117
>wants to train to protect his family
>has been shown training
>Vegeta again says "he has the most potential out of all of us"
>was disappointed he couldn't fight in the tournament
>all this Black arc
>didn't ask why trunks visited
>all 12 universes are going to have a tournament after
its a fighting anime Gohan will show up in a fight
>>144620264
well the conference could have opened up new avenues for him. the professor said it was a wonderful persentation he could get a new job.
I personally wish he'd so something even not in a fighting role. I mean Bulma has be the most important character in super with her blackmailing Jaco, Beerus and making inventions. Gohan is supposed to be smart yet we haven't seen ever. I know Gohan isn't Bulma tier in smarts but anything is better than nothing.
>>144617974
>sinister crocodile etc.
First time I hear that.
The initial Toei script I read had Beerus being literally a "Virus", and that the Saiyans reason for being assholes were said virus.
Toriyama ended up rewriting almost all of that.
>>144619953
A corrupt Kai (probably Zamasu) who swapped bodies with or fused/possessed Goku. Though they could swerve it and say it's Goten or some weird thing if they want to make it really unexpected. It probably is just a Kai though.
>>144620434
It was actually a lizard, but yeah the initial idea was that he could corrupt people and that he was going to turn Goku's friends against him or something.
>>144619113
>>144619115
>>144619115
>>144619228
You are clearly newfags or simply Burgerfags.
>>144619277
Yes, and "Briefs" is literally Bulma's father's name, not a surname. Surnames (with some VERY few exceptions) don't exist in Dragon Ball.
I bet you faggots think that Pan's "full name" is Son Pan.
>>144620521
It is going to be some weird shit about doppelgangers and parallel universes. I essentially guarantee it.
>>144615221
Will Black actually go Super-Saiyan? He's already plenty a match for SS Goku.
>>144620584
>You are clearly newfags or simply Burgerfags.
B-but I agreed with you here, anon: >>144619228
>>144621156
It's been like 3 decades how has no one come up with parallel universes/evil twins as an idea yet?
>>144621344
Oh dammit, sorry about that. I thought I double quoted the other guy
>>144621202
If he didn't he'd get annihilated when either goku or vegeta goes blue.
I hope Black doesn't go out like a chump, he seems really interesting. but I don't want the arc to be 25+ episodes either
>>144615221
GOHAN WHEN!
>>144622805NEVER EVER
>>144622866
>dubsI know...
>>144622252
He could be the pawn/servant of a bigger threat, maybe.
>>144623239
its possible but Black is shaping up to be the big bad and i want to see a good fight.
but since black has been saying lines like "this body is" "this body that" I'm thinking the goku body isn't the real form of the guy and he'll lose it some time in the future.
>>144620584
Wait, it's not Son Pan? So Gohan can get Goku's last name but Pan can't?
>>144622252
probably last 15 episodes more or less, reveal blacks true identity and we already at the middle. just hoping Mai and Trunks will remain relevant in the future.
>>144623463
>just hoping Mai and Trunks will remain relevant in the future.
poor present trunks or future trunks? cause Future Mai is totally alive but will probably be killed again for real this time.
>>144618324
something i will always like about Toriyama is his sense of 90 fashion of having shirts under the pants
>>144619457
at what episode this black arc starts? i want to skip the tournament
>>144623539
>Future Mai killed again for real
Nope, Dragon Ball is about happy endings, they can't possibly do that.
>>144623539
>but will probably be killed again for real this time.
you keep forget that Trunks is not the same of that future timeline, according to theories, there are many timelines created thanks to his past traveling, in one timeline he was killed by Cell which brought him to the past so maybe Mai will be alive in the current timeline
>>144623674
46 or 47 i forget
>>144623800
cool, just to be safe i'll watch it from 45, if its not relevant i can always skip to next episode
>>144623698
there are no dragon balls to fix everything. and even if they use the "super dragon balls" to fix everything its too neat of a ending for future trunks. it'd be crap
>>144623727
pretty sure this trunks we met right now is the future trunks from the cell games. so its only his time line that is here.
>fan theories
in the trash it goes. this is toriyama/toei they don't give a shit.
>>144623872
>this is toriyama/toei they don't give a shit.
well shit, at least i don't have to worry anymore
>>144623400
It sounds like he may have switched bodies with Goku in some fashion. Some magazine indicated that Black's appearance wasn't his real one and he just looks like Goku due to fusion or body swapping.
The left green Potara earring looked like a Demigra reference.
Yall niggas forgetting that Trunks' last name is Vegeta.........
Mira when? Lets be honest, we all know hes the white haired villain that was hinted at.
>white haired Goku
The fan fiction I created with the DBZ toys I played with when I was a kid for myself has become real. Don't know how I feel about it.
>>144624948
>how to create a counterpart golden hair?
>make it silver
i bet you weren;t the only one who made goku super saiyan with silver hair
>>144616659
>>144618324
Long haired Trunks is best Trunks
>>144625449
only when he goes super saiyan, i really liked how his spikiness focused on the front part of his head and the rest stays bald, is kind ainteresting
>>144620584
> with few exceptions
Consider this one of exceptions. Fucking dumbass. The stupidest shit bothers you
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dragon-Ball-Season-Episodes-Region/dp/B00I0VV88Y/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
Will this be censored?
>>144624854
Soon, Xenofan.
Or DBOfan.
i want to download the super eisodes, which subber is the best one?
>>144625449
>>144625907
i just dont like his super steroid form of SS2
>>144624854
Is it possible that Black/Zamasu sounds brainwashed and we haven't seen the real mastermind yet?
>>144615221
literally fanfiction tier
>>144616143
Nein. Vegeta has already used all the time allocation he had in this current lifetime.
He need to die once again before he can use the hyperbolic time chamber
>>144629454
>He need to die once again before he can use the hyperbolic time chamber
But he did in the Buu saga. Wasn't the chamber lost forever anyway?
>>144629454
That's only a rule when they need it, like the rule that the dragon balls can only revive someone who died less than a year ago.
>>144629487
He already used the (rebuilt) chamber with Goku before the tournament arc
>>144629580
Wasn't that rule only applies to the old dragonballs?
>>144629615
Oh. That sucks. Super introduces too little and retcons too much.
do you think will we meet the god of destruction of universe 10?
what animal do you think they'll be?
>>144632234
Afro Beerus
>>144632234
still a hairless cat, probably beerus sister this time
>>144632335
>r63 beerus
please this
>>144623674
It's worth watching from the second last ep of the tournament though.Goku gets a new transformationseems to be plot-relevant.
>>144615221
>white hair
I just creamed what is this??
also requesting that image of a derpy looking Jelleta
>>144619457
>Another Goku clone no. 134645
>Best arc
And I refuse to believe Toriyama wrote this shit
>>144616143
This.
He better came out of training with that long hair and gains agan
SOON
>>144633271
I guess im just not interested into power-up anymore. i rather see some fast pace but still technical fights.
>>144633557
You came to the wrong anime.
>>144615221
I don't understand the love for this shit. Dragon ball z was perfect for its time that 90's edge and muscle bound fights, it knew what it was and rolled with it. Now super is dogshit, it's animation is shit even during the fight scenes. The villains aren't cool or threatening (black goku really that's the best toriyama had?) and blue super Saiyan is the most uninspired transformation ever. Toriyama forgets launch the best character out of the piece of crap that was dragon ball, but manages to bring back a dog, a blue midget and a loli bitch to annoy us with. The gods are a twink with a food fetish and a scrawny mutated cat, and that's goku and vegetas goal to fight against? Fuck
>>144629646
Exactly, when the rule becomes inconvenient they'll get it rid of it.
>>144633880
Super sayian 1 was the hypest shit. I really enjoyed DBZ up until Cell games. Buu saga brought goten ,killed gohan potential and has the worst looking super sayian form but Fusions are great.Battle of gods is fun and Revival of F is trash.
>>144633908
>being THIS salty over launch
shes a one trick pony but its sad that toriyama forgot her.Original dragonball was great,waifufag.
Quick mods are sleep
Post BLACK
>>144623438
Exactly.
Videl and Chi Chi don't have their surnames either. Why would Pan? Only Gohan and Goten have "Son" because it's all part of a harmless joke/pun.
Even at the epilogue chapter, Toriyama wrote Pan's name as just "Pan" and Trunks and Bra as just "Trunks" and "Bra". Videl says in the manga that someone having a surname is considered someting rare and when Kid Goku asked the police for Bulma's address their database had the people registered with only their names and and ID number. Tori wanted things as simple as posible.
So there was never any reason for Toei/Bandai to go out of their way either. None of the databooks and other peripherial media has them with surnames.
>>144627319
>Consider this one of exceptions. Fucking dumbass.
Literally the MC is the only exception faggot. So the Surnamefags are the autistic ones.
>>144633908
>but manages to bring back a dog, a blue midget and a loli bitch to annoy us with.
Speak for yourself.
You mean, to bring back another member of the forgotterb animal people, a member of the forgotten non-human earthling and best communist girl to inyect more fun to this whole thing.
>>144615221
I knew Dragon Ball Super would disappoint me again today but I didn't expect it to disappoint me that hard.
So what happened? Another holiday or what?
>>144635417
A documentary that eats the schedule of Super.
>>144634251
Anon, where did you find that scan? I love Toriyama's old style, along with the early Dragon Quests.
>>144615221
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>>144633271
Training with Vegeta won't do the trick. He has to train with Whis. Vegeta had to do it for 3 whole months, while Goku already had SSG. Going into the time chamber won't be enough for ssb. The only thing Trunks will gain from htc is a beard.
>black arc
is another conference going to cock block gohan fags again? and is Chi-Chi going to ruin Goten now? seriously does goten look college material to anyone? And poor present Trunks I'm not sure how he's going to walk out of this arc pride unscathed
>tournament will have one world that played out like Future Trunks'
>but Gohan survived
>>144632330
Please.
There's no way Toriyama is actually writing Super
It doesn't feel like him at all.
I'm convinced they just slapped his name onto the project to make the fans happy
So is it pretty much a guarantee that this whole arc was just an extended set up to get Trunks stuck in the past so Beerus could go "Join the multiverse tournament on my team or I'll destroy you for your time shenanigans."?
>>144640639
>not GT universe vs universe 7 in the tournament
>>144641863
I doubt that. they've already made it clear that time travel is a very big deal. and if Future trunks stays it completely ruins present trunks and pretty much ruins lots of F trunks character since he's the grand protector of future earth. staying in the past would be one of the worst plot developments in DB.
>it's a Gohan does nothing episode
>>144642007
They've ruined so many character at this point it wouldn't make a difference
>>144623872
>there are no dragon balls to fix everything. and even if they use the "super dragon balls" to fix everything its too neat of a ending for future trunks. it'd be crap
Goku's going to the future to fight Black. All he has to do is pop over to New Namek and grab Dende
>>144642246
this ep 52 was snug as fuck man.
>>144629808
It's mentioned that they repaired/altered the time chamber in those episodes. Goku and Vegeta spent 3 days in there.
>Hit
>Bro tier character
>OMG COLDSTEEL THE HEDGEHEG LOL XD NOTHIN PERSONEL DON'T CUT YOURSELF WITH THAT EDGE
>Black Goku
>LITERALLY Shadow the hedgehog
>wow black is the most interesting character in the whole franchise, I like his style and personality, best villain
Why?
>>144642517
>All he has to do is pop over to New Namek and grab Dende
yes but I think at most they can only repair what Black and maybe Bobobee did and fix not everything that went to shit in the future. like bringing back gohan or vegeta
>>144642809
people have been wanting edgy goku for ages.
>>144620584
>>144635096
>sticking to so-called author's intention
From the moment where Toriyama decides an old guy is called Doctor Briefs (Burifu Hakase, which literally means "PhD owner Mr. Briefs") he introduced and admitted the social value of surname in his universe.
As most elements in DB this shit got out of hands and you cannot stop the fanbase from projecting simple things as "oh Bulma is Briefs' daughter hence she should have the same patronym". And of course it goes along with Trunks because he's a part of the familly. It's a simple logical reaction.
In the end we don't fucking care, but stop pretending there's a sacrosanct author's guideline when it's concurrently messy and based on IRL structures.
This Black arc is subpar at best, but I can see them setting up Black and the new Kai as future opponents in the multiverse tournament to create momentum and storylines ala WWE.
At least Super is still better than DBM, I guess.
>>144644019
>taresu
>tfw so much potential
>all sinked and wasted
>>144642809
>/a/ is one person
>>144632234
a toad
Is Black Goku a better father than regular Goku?
>>144644336
>le Goku is a bad father meme
Fuck off
What did the animators mean by this?
>>144616898
It's the earring.
>>144644799
"Leaving your girlfriend alone with your enemy in future is not good idea."
>>144644170
I don't see why they'd let even consider letting Black live after what he's done, unless he only manages to affect the trunk's timeline, which only exists as a massive violation of a universal rule of the gods.
>>144640639
>>144642007
>retards thinking other universes are other timelines
Mexican tier retardation
>>144644966
I can see Goku sparing Black, but I can also see Trunks or Vegeta killing him. It can go either way really.
>>144644966
>I don't see why they'd let even consider letting Black live after what he's done
You clearly haven't been paying attention to Goku's character from day one.
This is the guy whose tried to spare Freeza twice simply because he enjoys fighting him.
>>144645189
He will sacrifice himself after the real Goku's personality takes over. I can see it happening.
>>144644799
>>144645308
He also kicked a grenade into a man's face and punched a Goku-sized hole through another guy.
>>144645117
wasn't gt mentioned as other dimension in xenoverse?
>>144644234
Hard to believe you when every post is /a/ sucking Black's dick
>>144645471
Alternate timeline
>>144645483
considering what super has been so far. of course people are excited for black arc
>>144645483
>sucking notTurles dick
>>144645483
I just want this arc to be over so I can get this anon to hold my fucking hand
>>144645308
When I said "they" I was referring more to Trunks, Vegeta or Whis/Beerus or anyone who might want to get rid of him for time traveling and universe hopping.
Though since it looks like he only wants to kill humans maybe people higher on the god chain won't care enough to actually kill him.
>>144645701
so what happens if this does happen? what does this anon get in return
>>144645353
>>144645863
He never specified, brother. He's that confident Gohan will return.
>>144645938
You bastard
>>144645957
He better get ready to hold so many hands.
>>144642246
The last episode was the culmination of Gohan's character arc.
Just as Goku and Vegeta have found their happiness in fighting, Gohan has found his happiness in living a normal life with his family, away from fighting. Trunks in this episode symbolizes the part of the Dragon Ball fanbase who can only see characters in terms of fighting ability, view Gohan's transformation as a fall from grace, and is immediately taken aback by it at one point questioning why he's even bothering to waste his time with him.
However, Trunks eventually comes to realize that although this Gohan is vastly different from the one in his memories that doesn't take anything away from him or what he's accomplished in the past. In fact it adds to his character, as Trunks realizes that Gohan's sense of complete happiness and fulfillment, even away from being "the strongest", is what he himself has truly been pursuing all along and gives him all the motivation he needed to stand up against Black once again to pursue his own happiness, whatever it may be.
Gohan at this point is the happiest and most fulfilled character in the entire Dragon Ball continuity, and I don't see how any real fan of his could have any problem with that.
>>144646026
gohan will show up in a fight at some point but I'm much more worried about Goten. he's pretty much a non character at this point and chichi forcing school work on him is the final nail in the coffin.
>>144646163
So, consistent with the ending, where Goku has to force him to train even a little bit and the punk didn't even want to go to the tournament.
>>144646109
Holy shit, fucking this.
>>144646163
>>144646200
With Goku alive again, she can force Goten to study now, anon. But hw'll get laid a lot
>>144615221
i thought this was a joke
now i see it's true
jesus everytime goku talks. I fucking want to rip my ears off.
What if Vegito decided to Kill Buu? What if he stayed fused after everything was returned to normal?
>>144646430
Namekian Dragon Balls can split the fusion so he'd probably split up.
>>144621202
He already has technically. When Goku knocked him out of the sky, he got a power up and went 'So this is Super Saiyan Son Goku's power, huh?' and went back to fighting.
It seems to be implied that Black doesn't know how his body works and his fights are purely to increase power, with his Goku brawl basically giving him Goku's style as well.
>>144646109
>I don't see how any real fan of his could have any problem with that.
this line again. they need to stop blue balling gohan. keep him out or go all in.
>>144623674
Don't skip the fucking tournament.
Jesus Christ this is going to be the transition from DB to Z all over again where all the fucking shitters who can't handle a little world building skip entire chunks of the series and then point out plot holes that don't exist as "asspulls" because they skipped half the fucking series.
This series has literally the worst audience. I feel so bad for the writers.
>>144645336
That sounds fucking terrible
>>144628894
I want to know how good Zamasu is. He's clearly SSJ2 level at minimum and it'll be interesting to see if there was a Buu in their world and how they beat him if there was.
We know Future Trunks had a Buu at least.
>>144646468
But that would be negatively affecting someone much stronger than Parunga
>>144629454
Except Vegeta and Goku can use it whenever they want. Infact Vegeta said they weren't really making any gains in there now. After all, it's probably useless past SSJ1 for training, hence why Trunks and Vegetabubbles didn't come out stronger than Goku at the Cell games.
>>144646541
>>144646578
And that's how I know it will happen
>>144645483
He literally did nothing wrong though.
>>144646621
Kibito Kai is stronger than Porunga, and he wished to split up.
>>144615221
I'm still waiting for the dubbed version to be released.
>>144646747
Name one time he displayed any amount of strength. Remember that he's basically two office clerks stacked on top of each other in a trench coat.
>>144646747
They can't affect stronger beings againts their will. Kibito Kai wanted to be splited.
>>144647094
Stronger than Babidi's minions, who are stronger than Porunga.
>>144647188
So, Vegito wishes to be defused. Bam.
>>144647245
>So, Vegito wishes to be defused. Bam.
Yes.
>>144647245
>>144647311
Maybe he doesn't want to defuse..
>>144647188
Are you implying Vegito would refuse to split? You know he has loved ones, right?
>>144647334
But why? That'd be kinda dickish.
>>144647334
He did seem pretty neutral about being defused inside Buu...
>>144647387
So? Why would he want to lose half of his loved ones?
>>144647447
Because that means Buu is stronger than them and could kill them if they get out.
Vegeta immediately breaks the earrings anyway.
>>144647515
Because he's a Saiyan.
>>144647245
>Stronger than Babidi's minions
Which one? The one that got killed with no effort, the other one that got killed with no effort, the slightly buffed humans, or Dabura?
>>144647539
Then the loved ones are not an issue.
>>144647592
Vegito would force Bulma and Chi-Chi to fuse.
>>144645938
>>144645992
>>144647581
Every one but Dabura. And all of them are stronger than Porunga.
>>144647700
Why would he want half the wives?
>>144647737
The darkest future.
>>144646541
What a cuck. It feels almost like the writers are taking some malicious delight to destroy his character.
>>144647743
Well no, the mind controlled humans weren't. The minions likely were.
>>144647581
Kaioshin by himself was strong enough to oneshot Freezer. Fused with Kibito, he was much stronger. Freezer is stronger than Porunga. Therefore, Kibitoshin is much, much stronger than Porunga.
>>144647737
Now the colors just need to be inverted
>>144647831
Meanwhile, in the manga, Gohan wasn't training and Videl had to be the one to tell Goku he wasn't coming.
>>144646109
Yeah, what a brilliant character development, where he just decides to abandon all responsibility and leave everything to his aging father.
Truly, what a spectacular character arc.
>>144647914
>where he just decides to abandon all responsibility
Are you dumb? He's spending plenty with his family.
>>144647847
>>144647914
He goes on to be more important to the Earth than Goku ever was. He writes a book on Ki. Gohan refusing to be a fighting autist allows him to ensure they will never need a Goku again.
If Gohan starts training to be the strongest, he's just doing the same thing Goku did. But now Gohan is set to make generations beyond his own capable of fighting to protect the Earth.
Give a man a fish, teach a man to fish.
>>144648060
Now we're talking
God Gohanfags are dumb
>>144648049
The family which he doesn't provide for financially, since his wife is rich and he's a mediocre as fuck scholar, nor provide protection for, since he gave up fighting.
He's practically a deadbeat dad, it's just that since his wife has the money and his dad has the muscle he can indulge in being useless.
>>144648104
Yeah, about that, no.
First of, it's a fucking laugh that his greatest achievement is a book of notes on the shit he learned by the time he was 10. The best he has to show for being a scholar and abandoning fighting is.... a book on fighting.
Secondly, all his book did was make martial arts more popular. They didn't turn everyone into goku. Krillin's achievements were as good or greater as his. Hell, just by having children the human race got replaced by powerful saiyan hybrids, which had a much greater effect on the average powerlevel of the earthlings than his "ki for dummies" book had.
>>144646109
>most fulfilled character in the entire Dragon Ball continuity
I don't agree. You set up an arbitrary interpretation of happiness by dividing fanbase 1 and fanbase 2 and coping it with your own personal criteria.
I could say Korin is the most fulfilled character because he lives in a tower, has a lot of humor and he'd been growing beans forever. Not to mention he sucks Yajirobe's dick on a daily basis, or the other way round.
>>144648194
People always post this one fucking page. He doesn't seek to fight like Goku and Vegeta, pretty fucking obvious.
It doesn't mean he doesn't like fighting to protect people. That's what he learned from 16.
He had no problem killing Freeza's soldiers when he was younger and fighting Freeza with the intent to kill after Krillin got stabbed.
Fuck off with this shit.
>>144648266
>He's practically a deadbeat dad
When's Broly?
>>144648436
Enjoying slice of life moments with his dad in another timeline
>>144648330
>character is shown to be literally happy
>arbitrary
>>144648479
i'd watch it
>>144648330
Not really, pic related from Gohan himself, also did Gohan look unhappy in latest episode to you?
>>144648266
Saiyan genes aren't very powerful after a few generations, they need to use the Dragon Balls to even unlock Super Saiyan. And they'd be useless if people didn't know how to do shit. Unlike Goku, there isn't one "strongest ever" fighter on Earth, there are thousands, armies of them that are leaps and bounds higher than what Krillin and Tien were capable of. Speaking of which, the Book is what causes the revival of Crane and Turtle schools, and eventually fighters being capable of learning the "fuck your power levels" techniques like the Spirit Bomb.
You know, that thing that killed Buu.
With just the energy of the Earth.
Before they learned how to use Ki.
>>144648527
Wrong page
>>144647901
The manga and anime feel awfully different. It's like Toriyama just gives a few sentences for an outline and has them decide what to do. I don't even think Zen'o showed up in Toyotaro's manga, did he?
>>144648692
He did, and said the tournament was "hella sick, yo."
>>144647901
>That little shi...
Kek. I've never seen Goku so annoyed.
>>144647094
supreme kai is stronger than 1000 friezas
>>144648594
>Speaking of which, the Book is what causes the revival of Crane and Turtle schools
Funny, I could have sworn it was because Krillin opened his turtle school.
>With just the energy of the Earth.
And Namek. And other planets. And the afterlife.
Fact is though, Gohan's great achievement is a book on fighting. I.E, the thing he abandoned to become a mediocre scholar. He didn't have to become a useless, irresponsible sap to create it.
>>144648627
>Age 4
>Knowing what you want to do with your life
This page is proof the scholar thing is Chichi's dream, not his.
And he was never even good at it.
>>144648772
Gohans live is shit. Mother is a nagging bitch, father is only interested in you when you can shatter the moon with your fist
>>144644799
Trunks still gets triggered because Black looks like Goku and Black killed Mai so seeing Goku and Mai resembles that time Black killed Mai
>>144648527
>>144648627
This full color version looks like fucking ass.
What the fuck happened to Uub? Did they just write him out of the story?
>>144648811
Nigga it was JUST the Earth that killed Buu, you're full of shit.
And it's not a book on fighting, it's a book on Ki. A book on fighting would just make people like King Chappa or Mark. A book on Ki means people can learn how to do shit like the Spirit Bomb.
Krillin and Tien only founded their schools AFTER people started learning about Ki. Same with Goten and Trunks' swordfighting school.
>>144648881
>father is only interested in you when you can shatter the moon with your fist
Father was interested in him but mother keeps cockblocking father from interacting with his children.
>>144648918
he's a baby. the tournament arc mentions him.
>>144648918
He's like 4 years old, Goku referenced him though.
>>144645117
>moron can't read
>calls others retards
Fuck off, in Champa's universe Earth was destroyed, there is literally no reason that there can't be an universe that mirrors the future timeline's past
>>144648936
>Nigga it was JUST the Earth that killed Buu, you're full of shit.
How about you read the manga or even watch the anime instead of showing everyone you don't know what you're talking about?
>>144648936
>And it's not a book on fighting, it's a book on Ki.
Ki is the basic energy used for fighting and he learned of it by fighting and training. In other words, he was bumping shouders with the greatest Ki users of the universe since he was 4. Being a mediocre as fuck scholar clearly didn't pan out for him if his scholarly achievement is a book on what he already knew.
>DBO for Gohan is canon
why do people really count that?
>>144648266
>Hell, just by having children the human race got replaced by powerful saiyan hybrids, which had a much greater effect on the average powerlevel of the earthlings than his "ki for dummies" book had.
Are you sure? I mean Goten didn't even know how to fly early Majin arc. A "ki for dummies" book would have been very useful then. Plus the Saiyan blood will keep getting spread thinner and thinner with each generation. Also pic related
>>144649056
>Being a mediocre as fuck scholar clearly didn't pan out for him if his scholarly achievement is a book on what he already knew.
You... really don't know how careers work, do you?
>>144649082
It's called grasping at straws
>>144649082
Because it makes them feel like he wasn't a useless motherfucker until the day he died.
>>144648692
Toriyama's outline seems to vary wildly in how detailed it goes. Just look at the Goku vs Hit battle. The first part is basically identical in anime and manga, down to the dialogue, but the 2nd half is completely different, aside from having a moment where Hit barely dodges a full powered Kamehameha from Goku.
>>144646541
>>144647831
I think in this case, it's pretty clear Toriyama's outline didn't have Gohan training. Both anime and manga have a scene where, when they're deciding the teams, Goku calls Gohan a bookworm, says that he doesn't care about fighting anymore and even lost hi gi - the losing his gi part was also referenced by Toriyama in a recent interview. However, in the anime, we suddenly have this scene right afterwards where it turns out that Gohan is training but can't go due to the conference, and Goku this time doesn't say anything negative. It seems obviously like a Toei addition to line up with their change to the RoF arc, considering how it makes Goku's previous comments completely pointless. However, this newest episode shows that they dropped that plotline and are going with Toriyama's direction, since Piccolo himself says that Gohan isn't a fighter anymore.
>>144649056
You're the one who didn't read the damn manga. It's the Earth that gave him energy, no afterlife bullshit. Why do you think the Spirit Bomb got so large after Mark "Hercule" Satan started yelling at the world? Why Goku didn't throw it at Buu until AFTER that?
Goten and Trunks didn't develop the new "fuck your power levels" swordfighting shit until AFTER Gohan's book. This was full of completely new insights into Ki, this isn't just "Ki for dummies," it's a revolution on how this shit works.
>>144649188
>You... really don't know how careers work, do you?
>"I don't want to fight I want to be a scholar"
>The only thing he's remembered for is shit he learned when he was a fighter
Gohan is not a good scholar, and never will be. He's not even very smart, he was just forced to cram since he could barely walk. He got outsmarted by Majin buu for fuck's sake.
>>144648907
you have bad opinions
>>144648527
I didn't say he looked unhappy. I think my answer pinpointed something else, which is by which criteria do you start off to judge someone's happiness.
The fallacy of >>144646109 is to convene some sort of inescapable two-way answer : the ones find their happiness in fighting, the others may find it in books. Without saying that anon concludes Gohan is the "most fulfilled character in the entire Dragon Ball continuity".
I just ask, how do you know that. And the obvious answer is "Oh, right, you just set this up."
>>144649278
>You're the one who didn't read the damn manga
I own the manga. You really should reconsider doubling down on your ignorant-ass statements, because I can easily prove you wrong and stupid with a 2 minute browse of mangafox.
>>144649278
>Goten and Trunks didn't develop the new "fuck your power levels" swordfighting shit until AFTER Gohan's book.
Yeah no shit, they're younger than him.
>>144649245
I don't see Goten saying he wants to be a scholar or something along those lines, so nice headcanon.
Gohan published a book called “Groundbreaking Science” around Age 800, which appears to have taught the general population concepts such as ki control; he also explained how the Katchin metal (which was used to test the Z-Sword) could indeed be cut, which led to a new-found interest in swordsmanship, as well as Goten and Trunks founding the Kikoukenjutsu Sword School which teaches how to infuse blades with ki to overpower opponents
Seems good at it to me.
>>144649327
Take a manga lineart designed for viewing in B&W, add amateurish, flat photoshop coloring and you get garbage like that.
>>144649245
>since Piccolo himself says that Gohan isn't a fighter anymore.
fighter isn't the same as a protector. Gohan has said on multiple occasions that he wants strength to protect his loved ones.
>>144649297
My GOD you're an idiot if you think this is all that's in there. It isn't just the basics on Ki, it isn't even about fighting. It's completely new shit! This is way more important to the Earth than Goku ended up being.
>>144649406
You're not even trying anymore are you?
>>144646109
Gohan was just handled as a retard though
Like, fucking Future Trunks is there and he's only like "Hey long time no see by the way this is my family eat some stuff with us did i mention my family already?"
For such a scholar he really overlooked what a guy from another time with fucked up clothes and a sword on his back is doing there
Want to give closure to Gohan and hammer down the point once and for all that he won't be fighting again? Then do it, just don't assassinate his character in the process
>>144649447
>I don't see Goten saying he wants to be a scholar or something along those lines, so nice headcanon.
Because Chichi had stopped being a cunt in the Buu saga. She is regressed in Super, because Super is shit.
>>144649452
We aren't talking about a tournament in this arc though. Black is a menace to the future and already went to the past once. He's a threat, not a weekend sport event.
So how old is Trunks now? He was 21 in the Cell Saga(3 years after Future Gohan's death).
>>144649297
What do you think being a scholar is about exactly? Is he supposed to not research an energy that has magical properties and nobody else knows of? Do you think he would be able to learn about it outside of fighting somehow?
>>144649518
Even then Goten doesn't have an interest in training or studying. He just wants to enjoy going on adventures with Trunks.
>>144619867
>>144620093
>>144620117
>>144620279
Super is going to keep finding ways to erase Gohan, PTrunks and Goten off the plot. That's a fact. Which bothers me is the way they are portraiying them. Goten is non-existance, at least in GT Toei gave him a bone in Valase. KTrunks is only there to be jelous of Mai, and that is ruining the little nice romance movie BoG gave me. At some point I hope they stop, Mai is only there to create drama, we aren't in a Mari Okada anime. And Gohan, ok you don't want him in the plot, but for fuck's sake, characterize him well. Make Trunks stalk him for a while, then when they meet make Trunk lie to him, 'I came back because we need something for the time machine'. Watching how happy Gohan was made Trunk felt guilty for wanting to ask Gohan to fight some evil version of his dad, because he was too weak to kill him. So Trunks promised himself to get stronger to bulilt a future like PGohan's life.
There, it isn't that dufficult Toei.
>>144649447
>Gohan published a book called “Groundbreaking Science” around Age 800, which appears to have taught the general population concepts such as ki control; he also explained how the Katchin metal (which was used to test the Z-Sword) could indeed be cut, which led to a new-found interest in swordsmanship, as well as Goten and Trunks founding the Kikoukenjutsu Sword School which teaches how to infuse blades with ki to overpower opponents
Sounds way more useful than being a fighting autist like Goku.
>>144649549
Trunks is in his late 20s early 30s.
>Goku's gi doesn't become yellow when he becomes SSJ3
>>144649521
what are you talking about? Gohan wants to be a protector of his family. Black is a menace that could potentially kill his family.
>>144649609
this is far from canon dude.
>>144649453
>My GOD you're an idiot if you think this is all that's in there. It isn't just the basics on Ki, it isn't even about fighting. It's completely new shit!
It's about fighting and chi. Chi is mainly used for fighting.
>This is way more important to the Earth than Goku ended up being.
Yeah sure it's not like Goku saved the earth and the entire universe from total destruction a multitude of times. His "chi for dummies" was totally more important.
>>144649453
>You're not even trying anymore are you?
I'm just giving you the opportunity to save yourself the embarrassment of being proven wrong, but you keep digging that hole deeper.
>>144649518
>She is regressed in Super,
And yet still nothing on Goten being scholar. So nice headcanon
>>144649563
>Is he supposed to not research an energy that has magical properties and nobody else knows of? Do you think he would be able to learn about it outside of fighting somehow?
So what you're saying is he SHOULDN'T have stopped fighting then? I mean, considering it was the topic of his "scholarly" legacy.
King Vegeta x Bardock fusion when?
>>144649609
>being a fighting autist like Goku
Are you retarded? Goku saved the Earth plenty of times.
>>144649650
Goten is older than gohan was when he was indoctrinated by Chichi. Her bullshit isn't as formative now as it was for gohan.
Also, Super is terribly fucking written.
>>144623438
I guess it because Gohan and Videl wanted to follow Videl's family tradition for naming their members. And it also fits because Pan is Mr Satan's heir, not Goku's.
>>144649474
Oh I don't know maybe he was overjoyed to see an old friend again and got lost in the moment you autistic fuck. Besides Trunks didn't have a sense of urgency about him when he went to see Gohan.
>>144649645
>what are you talking about? Gohan wants to be a protector of his family. Black is a menace that could potentially kill his family.
That's exactly what I'm saying. If Gohan was still training to protect, then Black would fall upon that. He'd definitely be a possible menace for his family eventually.
Piccolo wouldn't have told Trunks that Gohan isn't a fighter and to not bother taking him to the future if that training actually existed.
>>144649712
That depends on whether he can learn anything else from it. If he can just study his dad as a research subject then there's no reason for him to waste his time training when he could be doing science stuff.
>>144649752
>grasping at straws this hard
Give up your headcanon isn't true.
>>144649804
>Piccolo wouldn't have told Trunks that Gohan isn't a fighter
piccolo said that to say gohan isn't like his future self.
>>144649649
>It's about fighting and chi. Chi is mainly used for fighting.
Flying. Like, the most basic thing about it. That's not used exclusively for fighting.
>Sword school
The potential applications alone of Ki being capable of cutting the strongest metal in the universe should be enough to turn entire industries on their heads.
Goku saved the Earth but caused them to depend on him because of his fighting autism. Entire generations growing up knowing how to use Ki? This is more than Goku could ever hope to do to ensure the Earth's survival for future generations.
I think you might actually be a fighting autist yourself.
>>144649841
>there's no reason for him to waste his time training when he could be doing science stuff.
Besides, you know, being able to experience firsthand what he's describing in his book, not to mention NOT BEING A WEAK SHIT who can't protect his family if daddy isn't around.
>>144649873
Toriyama's "canon" doesn't mean a thing. He thinks Yamcha never got over his fear of women.
>>144649937
>Word of God doesn't matter
Well you lost.
>>144649650
>So nice headcanon
In Super Chi Chi has been yelling at Goku, being angry with Goku because he wants to train, being angry because Gohan and Satan want Pan to be a martial artist and using studies as an excuse to keep Goten out of the plot, even when Goten just kept watching Goku and Piccolo to harvest the cabbages.
So is it agreed that having a Gotenks Kamikaze Ghost crawl up your ass would be a spectacularly bad way to go out.
>>144650003
>taking anything toriyama says seriously
this is the guy that forgets everything and colors characters wrong
>>144649917
>Flying. Like, the most basic thing about it. That's not used exclusively for fighting.
You mean the technique developed by the chrane school of MARTIAL ARTS?
Yeah, you can apply some martial arts things outside of fighting. Tai Chi is practiced for health reasons. That doesn't make it not related to martial arts.
>Goku saved the Earth but caused them to depend on him because of his fighting autism
Goku didn't cause shit. If Gohan had manned up, they wouldn't have had to keep depending on him. And a thousand shitters who learned basic fighting from Ki for Dummies would never be able to protect the earth from the seriously bad shit either. Especially if most of them use it for nonfighting purposes like flying or industry.
>>144649937
His daughter is stronger than his brother. Why should he keep training? She's clearly better at this than he ever was.
>>144650003
Word of god loses all divinity if it's directly and explicitly contradicted by the work in question.
Toriyama's canon means nothing.
>>144645353
>>144645938
>>144647737
>Not sure if fap or feel bad for Trunks.
>>144650101
>thinking goten would go all out against a baby pan
Panfags are the worst cancer in DB threads.
>>144650019
Pay attention to the argument before you jump in.
>>144649917
>Goku saved the Earth but caused them to depend on him because of his fighting autism.
Let's not forget everything from Piccolo junior onwards only happened due to Goku being a fighting autist, Bills happening specifically because he was strong.
>>144649937
>Besides, you know, being able to experience firsthand what he's describing in his book
He was already stronger than fucking Freezer as a kid, what else do you want from him? It's not like non-Saiyans could reach God mode anyway.
>>144650101
>>144650119
Why not both?
>>144649760
Except Pan's name goes with both families, Pan is also the Japanese word for bread, in addition to being a reference to the greek god.
>>144650197Good idea.
>>144650181
>He was already stronger than fucking Freezer as a kid, what else do you want from him?
His not getting his ass oneshotted by Frieza after 4 months of training.
You know, his being able to defend the earth when it came down to it, instead of having to rely on his aging father who didn't have a hundredth of his potential.
>>144650111
>>144650036
>Toriyama's canon means nothing.
>>144650067
>You have to be a martial artist to use Ki
Okay, I think I figured out what your issue is. You cannot grasp the concept that Ki is separate from Martial Arts.
The rest of the universe is already aware of this.
Do you honestly think Frieza's minions are full-fledged martial artists? What about Buu? The Namekians? Fucking Dende!
You are a fighting autist.
>>144649804
Super doesn't want him in the plot. And at this point, the less Gohan appears the less Toei can ruin him even harder.
>>144649875
Piccolo said Gohan wasn't a fighter anymore, because he was a wornbook.
>>144649917
>Sword school
I will forever be mad with Toei and Toriyama if they throw Goten and Trunks in the void because they aren't Goku and Vegeta 2.0 , it would be more interesting if they end realizing they like sword fighting style and since that, whenever they fight they use swords. But that would make them interesting.
Any information out yet on how long Super is going to run?
>>144650274
The work supersedes the word of the author. Yamcha demonstrably lost his fear of women. If toriyama claims he didn't, toriyama is objectively wrong and his word means shit.
>>144650101
I want Pan to beat me up and call me a pervert.
>>144650313
Until they want it to end.
>>144649174
I really don't understand Piccolo's reaction there
>>144650158
He clearly was trying. And lost. Full out or not, Base Pan > Base Goten.
>>144650321
>>144650101
>Taking filler as canon.
>Thinking Goten is going to go serious with a four years old girl.
Your autism is strong.
>>144650287
>Do you honestly think Frieza's minions are full-fledged martial artists?
Warriors.
>What about Buu?
Force of destruction, fighter.
>The Namekians? Fucking Dende!
Warriors as well. Even dende. Kami/Piccolo was originally of the dragon clan, like Dende.
Yes, chi is used for applications outside fighting. It's still mainly an expression of the body's power.
>>144650384
Piccolo for years never understood why Vegeta and Bulma became a thing.
And now he finally knows.
>>144650158
>Panfags are the worst cancer in DB threads.
Nope that's Gohan "fans" and shipping/waifu faggots
>>144650388
So are you saying that Yamcha never got over his fear of women?
>>144650355
Are you a deer?
>>144650386
yeah you're an idiot
>>144650439
>Gohan "fans"
those are shit posters not fans. but I'll agree with waifufags. those are cancer but every series has them so its not DB fault.
>>144650162
You two are arguing Chi Chi is a cunt in Super, unlike in Buu saga. I replied to that.
>>144650312
They're actually giving Future Trunks a sword based moveset this time, with sword beams and such, so that's possible. Although it could be just the animators.
>>144650426
Because she's strong willed? That doesn't really draw the line on wife/breeding material. Also its a one way street for attraction.
>>144650423
>Dende
>Warrior
Okay you have to be a troll at this point.
>Yes, chi is used for applications outside fighting.
And now, rub two brain cells together
a book on Ki
that details non-fighting applications of it
>>144650232
Pan looks like mini Videl, though.
>>144650479
Maybe.
>>144650477
Since he never even kissed his girlfriend I would say no.
>>144650510
Pay attention to the argument before you jump in.
>>144650503
>>144650386
Being this stupid, the tournament was over. This isn't canon to the manga.
>>144650610
How are you posting this then?
>>144650563
When someone claiming a healing-class Namekian is a warrior, you need to realize that nothing you say will go through to him
>>144650591
She just has a very generic "toriyama girl" face. She has black eyes like the Son family, and with her GT haircut she looks closer to Chichi than to Videl.
>>144650535
But PTrunks and Goten are left forgotten.
>>144650730
>He doesn't know
>>144650763
Nah, we're seeing present Trunks all jealous, and his voice actor had mentioned that it'd happen and eventually would lead to him maturing.
>>144650749
>her GT haircut she looks closer to Chichi than to Videl
And that's why her GT counterpart is an annoying bitch and should be forgotten.
>>144650832
>we're seeing present Trunks all jealous
Which is shit, we aren't in an Okada anime.
>>144650269
>having to rely on his aging father
Goku seems fine with it, and all of the fights are caused by him anyway. Plus having more people is preferable to depending on one more guy. Why defend the world when you can help the world defend itself?
>>144650629
>Since he never even kissed his girlfriend
pic related
>>144649245
I wonder if Black Goku is Toriyama's concept. It feels different in tone from the previous episodes.
>>144650924
>hasn't been kissed
>still willing to give peepshows for dragon balls
So is she a slut or not?
>>144650423
Dragon Clan aren't fighters, that's the Warrior Clan. Dragon Clan are Dragon Ball dudes. Nail and Piccolo are warriors, Dende, Elder, Kami are Dragon clan.
>ChiChi sights are on Goten now
>a character that has never shown any interest in studying or scholarships
>never has ChiChi even shown interest in Goten like this before
god damn it. and here I thought Goten would help Ptrunks get through this black arc.
>>144650832
>trunks VA said so
I don't think thats anything important.
>>144650998
>Bulma
The answer should be obvious
>>144651015
>I don't think thats anything important.
He spoilered the first part before it happened in the show though, so it's pretty likely the 2nd part mentioned by him will happen too.
>>144651184
this would imply actual character development for Present Trunks and we know DB isn't a show that does this.
>>144651015
>tfw Goten loves Gohan more than Goku and Chi-Chi
It's a good feel. I want to see them interact more.
>>144651326
>taking one scene in DB when there is literally 100s of chapters past this
>BTFO
riiight
>>144650832
>and his voice actor had mentioned that it'd happen and eventually would lead to him maturing.
Will be interesting to see.
>>144651395
>no proof to the contrary
BTFO indeed.
So would Gohan have started training again if Trunks was a girl?
Would Videl be jealous and gain some character back?
>>144651810
no, just no
>>144651810
No and no, anon.
>>144650998
Gelbooru has a pretty clear answer to that.
>>144648692
Manga has a way more casual way of dialogue, almost reminiscent of OG Dragon Ball
>>144651810
>>144650560
It's because she can take that dick. They're basically talking about how they shag their wives.
>>144652356
STOP! I feel weird
>>144652356
KEEP GOING! I feel weird
>>144652356Is there more?
So, will Future Trunks fuse with Gohan or not? It will be an absolute waste if he doesn't.
Speaking of fusions, has anyone explained why if Trunk's hair is blue, then why Gotenks's hair still has purple stripes?
>>144648266
>He's practically a deadbeat dad
Stop projecting your own problems into this show.
Still proud that Trunks got Super Saiyan 2
>>144615647
God Gohan is pathetic.
>>144652575http://g.e-hentai.org/g/543158/c241e72d67/
>>144652702Thank you.
>>144652702
>http://g.e-hentai.org/g/543158/c241e72d67/
This is going to be a very weird fap.
>>144652596
Toei just realized Trunks' concept art had blue hair. But Gotenks is an established character so you can't just change his hair whenever you feel like it.Toei is retarded
>>144652474
Here >>144652702
>>144616435
>>144652919
>those nails
>that outfit
Why is Bulma such a slut?
>>144652952
Why the KEY girls?
why are you people arguing aabout this power level bullshit? toriyama successfully destroyed all of his by removing ssj2 and ssj3, goku while fighting hit was getting the same amount of damage while being in normal state and in god ssj, this is pure bullshit, dbz power levels made at least some sense, super is just pants on head retarded, this is what author of this shit wanted so stop talking about it, enjoy your SOL gohan instead
>>144652702
What in God's name?
>>144653196
You need to calm down.
Have 17 and 18 bullying girl Future Trunks.
>>144651810
>>144652356
>>144652702
>>144652919
>>144653370
stop it
STOP IT
>>144652702
thats gay
>>144653553
There is nothing wrong with completely heterosexually fucking your best friend who is now a girl.
Where do you guys download the new episodes? I used to get them from Kickass, but that's down now.
>>144653515
Join us, anon~
>Girl Trunks is trained by Future Gohan
>crushing on her sensei
>he dies
>she goes back in time
>has to resist urge to /ss/ young Gohan
>goes back to the future
>years past
>goes back because of Black
>Gohan is happily married and has a family, and no longer that tough sensei she liked
Even as a girl Future Trunks life is pure suffering.
>>144653763
Trunks will always have a hard life.
>>144653718
please stop this i beg of you
i don't want to fuck trunks
>>144653873
>He's already dead!
>>144651015
>best friend
>never shows up anymore
>pilaf gang replaced goten
gohan and goten are dead. Accept it famblamI haven't
>>144653944
more for us, then.
>>144654324
Goten's going to hang out with them later if the OP is to be believed.
looks like Trunks is going to meet 18 next week. I'm glad they're getting all the milage out of his reactions to the rest of the cast that they can.
>>144619694
I don't think they killed him off, he just went flying a la Team Rocket
>>144653763
>Gets a new BFF with Future Mai
>Watches Future Mai get BLACKED
>Sees present Mai
>Present (girl?) Trunks is jealous
>Meanwhile Bulma wins a bet
So at this rate will Super end up being better than Z?
>>144619694
But that means the Ginyu Force has finally been reunited!
>>144655006
there should be a follow up to this comic with Bulma returning the money at this point.
>>144655077
Probably not. I hear even Toriyama has problems with the Super anime, though I don't think it's been specified as to what those problems are.
He seems to be okay with the manga adaptation though, based on how he gets along with Toyotaro in interviews.
>>144655077
Easily
I love how strong Pan is.
>>144651357
More than Goku, sure, but he's an absolute momma's boy. Chichi dieing completely wrecked him.
>>144655077
only if it goes full SoL and drops the failed attempts at drama and action
It seems Trunks will meet 18 again after all...
>>144655077
>>144655524
I hope it does end up being better, personally. But I'm not sure yet.
>>144655077
It certainly has the potential there, but so far it's just been average compared to Z. This arc might be the shot in the arm it needed, and we know it's going to last for like 100 or more episodes at this point.
Did all of the Buu Saga happen in 1 day?
>>144656060
No
The Buu saga lasted atleast a couple days
>>144645431
yeah wtf goku punched a hole through piccolo when he was a kid, now monika doesn't even move when punch by goku? s m h
>>144656141
Monaka is the strongest though.
>>144655006
i don't remember trunks acting weird when hhe met kid gohan
Where is episode 53?
Did Bulma rape Vegeta?
>>144656705
No episode this week
>>144656179
I want to touch hisnipples
>>144656705
Next week.
>>144655976
What the fuck?
Not a chance in hell anon. The first 2 arcs were retreads of stupid movies with stupid ideas, the 3rd arc had ONE good character and fight.
The current arc is only interesting because Trunks is back.
Only diehard DB fans can actually stomach this
>>144656817
Yes. She fucked him while he was bedridden.
i just want a human chaacter to get god ki
>>144656830
>the 3rd arc had ONE good character
Hey, Cabba and Magetta were fine characters
>>144657259
>Magetta
Had to google him. No.
>Cabba
>In my universe, saiyans are power rangers!
All vegeta has to do is make him think bad thoughts and then he transforms? You KNOW that's a load of bullshit
>>144657240
>Yamcha gets god ki
>Follows in the footsteps of the Saibamen.
>>144657416
Your butthurt over some new characters is amusing.
>>144657607
Butthurt about DBS in general.
It's not living up to its predecessors at all.
The story and character designs are Kabaneri-tier.
And Pilaf and friends are annoying as fuck
>>144655077
It already is.
>>144658840
>bait.jpg
>>144659027
>someone has a different opinion than me!?!
>better call it bait
>>144659069
what you're saying is the 3 arcs we've completed are equal to or greater than Frieza, Cell, and Buu sagas, which is not true
>>144655077
No, the worst arc in Z was Garlick Jr's, the worse arcS in Super are the first 27 episodes, three episodes of purple jelly Vegeta and many more to come.
U6 vs U7 arc was just there. having Goku and Vegeta fighting a bunch of nobodies, then Piccolo losing to blue Frieza just to appeal to the nostalgiafags. The only good thing about it was it vs Goku. Trunks' arc was good in the first episode, but we are stuck in filler because Toei wants to milk it to no end.
>>144618093
But I really want to see the line "It doesn't really matter if you're black or white" used...
>>144659865
>what you're saying is the Champa and Future Trunks(so far) arcs are greater than Toei's adaption of Namek,Artificial Human and Majin arcs, which is true
ftfy
>>144656817
It was Bulma the one who raped him.
>>144656823bennis
>>144615221
THE ONE is here now.
How accurately does this represent the feelings Gohanfags are feeling right now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1iaz6KXRHA
>ssj 5 finaly becomes a thing
>>144649600
this right here. Just done rewatching BoG. they are ruining everything. Fuck super.
>>144660995
reminds me of ssj7 goku mugen 2 character, which was just a teal haired ssj 1 recolor
can't find it anymore but it shows how ssjg is fan-art tier
Quickly. There is a Gohanfag who has hope. Fix this!
>>144652531
>>144651404
Kid Trunks has always been around just to fuse with Goten to do wacky shit and give a humane side to Vegeta, that's it. Trunks' coming of age story is a critical moment for him and for Super to establish itself as a true continuation of Z.
>>144660143
the manga's better too
stop shitposting
>>144648772
it's fucking niggerstream just ignore that shit translation
>>144648772
It's just an edgy scanlator. He was annoyed, but he didn't call him "kuso" in Japanese.
That said, the manga does seem to show Goku more annoyed about Gohan's life choice than the anime though. Just compare the scene where Goku replies to Vegeta reminding him that Gohan has the greatest potential - Goku's reply has the exact same script in both manga and anime, the only differences in translations are due to different translators, but in the manga he's drawn looking kind of annoyed, while replying that he only cares about books and lost his gi, while in the anime he just has a generic smile while saying those same things. Comparing both, I think the manga's reaction makes more sense with his words.
>>144635151
>Arguing about surnames
>calling someone else autistic
Pot, meet kettle.
>>144619113
>Not using Vegeta's last name
Does that makes Vegeta a Nu-male? Also does Vegeta even have a last name?
>>144650560
>one-way street for attraction
How so, outside of headcanon?
Ask Beerus what happens with Vegeta when you touch "His Bulma". Also I highly doubt Vegeta's ego is so strong that he'd be above "She's cute/hot, for a human."
Don't act like Bulma isn't a sucker for Bad Mans with killer abs either.
>>144660367
And his name is
>>144666067
Nearly no one has a last name in Dragon Ball. Goku, Gohan and Goten are one of the very few exceptions.
Also, Briefs isn't Bulma's last name, that's just Funimation made up shit.
So wait, is there no new episode tonight? A bit behind and just caught up.
>>144650798
Kek/10
>>144657607
Kid Trunks and kid Goten transforming were way more bullshit than Cabba transforming though. Did you completely forget about them or what?
>>144666835
No, their parents were super saiyans when they gave birth
Cabba and his race had never even seen it in person
>>144666990
*when they conceived
>>144666990
Trunks and Goten were just handed super saiyan because Toriyama wanted to have Gotenks. They were never put in a desperate situation where the lives of their loved ones were on the line or killed, or any of the like. The only bearing their fathers being super saiyans had is that they had someone who knew how to become a super saiyan, but Goten never even got to train with anyone but Chichi, yet he still pulled it off easily. At least Cabba was briefly mentored by Vegeta who has had years of experience with several super saiyan transformations. Cabba was also a lot stronger than Goten or kid Trunks ever were when they got their transformations, and the fact that you can train to become a super saiyan by fighting and increasing your strength (see Vegeta, teen Gohan) would imply that being stronger makes it easier to achieve super saiyan. The only factor that might be a bit iffy is that Cabba's desperate situation in this case was only Vegeta promising to destory planet Sallad, but considering Cabba's naive and gullible personality (see his reaction to blue Frieza being evil), that's not too weird.
To me, it looks like you're just pulling shit out of your ass because you don't like super as much as Z.
>>144667546
Cabba was just handed super saiyan because Toei wanted to have a new super saiyan. He was never put in a desperate situation where the lives of his loved ones were on the line or killed, or any of the like. The only bearing is that vegeta knew how to become super saiyan, and cabba never even got to train with anyone but vegeta, yet he still pulled it off easily. At least goten was briefly mentored by chichi and trunks with Vegeta who has had years of experience with several super saiyan transformations. Cabba was also a lot stronger than Goten or kid Trunks ever were when they got their transformations, and the fact that you can train to become a super saiyan by fighting and increasing your strength (see Vegeta, teen Gohan) would imply that being stronger makes it easier to achieve super saiyan. The only factor that is definitely iffy is that Cabba's desperate situation in this case was only Vegeta promising to destroy planet Sallad, but considering Cabba's naive and gullible personality and Toei's bad writing (see his reaction to blue Frieza being evil), that's not too weird.
To me, it looks like you're just pulling shit out of your ass because you don't like Z as much as Super.
Nice try, anon. We have a reasonable explanation for goten and trunks but not cabba
>>144667809
>Cabba was just handed super saiyan because Toei wanted to have a new super saiyan. He was never put in a desperate situation where the lives of his loved ones were on the line or killed, or any of the like.
> Cabba's desperate situation in this case was only Vegeta promising to destroy planet Sallad, but considering Cabba's naive and gullible personality and Toei's bad writing (see his reaction to blue Frieza being evil), that's not too weird.
You have this contradicting statement in your post. Also, you did not refute the role Cabba's strength had with obtaining super saiyan, which was arguably a major factor.
At the very least I can give you kid Trunks since I can't remember if he got trained by Vegeta or not, but Goten getting super saiyan is still an asspull.
Nice try anon. We have a reasonable explanation for Cabba but not for Goten.I actually like Z more than super
>>144668537
Do you think vegeta's lying is enough?
Cabba's strong, but strength alone isn't enough to reach SS1
SS2 can be acheived through training alone
Goten and trunks had SS fathers anon, that's why they could transform so easily. Not an asspull
I want to fuck Goku's mom
>>144668844
>Goten and trunks had SS fathers anon, that's why they could transform so easily. Not an asspull
Headcanon. Kid Trunks was conceived the same as Future Trunks. Even Super didn't retcon Trunks going Super Saiyan back to the manga original, so Kid Trunks is a bigger asspull than Cabba.
>>144668844
The thing is, with Cabba's naive and gullible personality, it could be. Cabba's strength should make it easier to reach super saiyan, which should make it demand less of a desperate situation to reach it.
Goten's father having super saiyan doesn't mean anything if his father was never around to show him how. Your genetic material does not alter itself if you suddenly reach a transformation, if that's what you're trying to imply. Genetics does not work that way.
I do have a distant memory of something with half-saiyans being more emotional and therefore having an easier time to reach super saiyan because they need less trauma for it, but this might be anime filler or even just /a/ speculation. Even if it was canon, Goten never had that emotional trauma for it however.
>>144653873
Not Time Patroller Trunks. He's happy protecting all of history with the Supreme Kai of Time, Tokitoki, and the Time Patroller at his side.
>>144670771
He doesn't have his mum or Waifu there though.
>>144670901
I ship TP Trunks with my Time Patroller. Which is okay because my TP is a female Saiyan, so it's all good.
>>144670953
ur shipping a shit
>>144671094
Yeah, you're right.
I'll go back to ship Gohan and Zangya.
>>144671248
That's dumb and your ship is dumb
>It's an actual thing
>With fan art
what the fuck
>>144671248
bweh that's impossible
>>144666067Ble.
>>144629454
pretty sure that's moot point now with the brand new room they made.
>>144649600
>There, it isn't that dufficult Toei.
Every good common-sense is difficult for Toei.
>>144669238
I want to make a hybrid baby that has muh hybrid potential and goes SSJ by age 8.
>>144615221
Where? Where?
>>144661922
Did it have a minute long intro for every fight with spanish audio? That's what every DBZ MUGEN character needs.
>>144679774
I'm getting flashbacks to this monster Broly in MUGEN now.
>>144679693
blacked
>>144679822
>>144679822
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tKD1su6CWQ
Could this be the final fight of DB Super?
>>144679938
The most amazing thing about mugen is that it doesn't crash despite all the bullshit
>>144679993
>It just works
>>144680055
if I was Goku I would wish she was a loli again and stayed like that
>>144680055
Upon reflection the Universe 6 greatest fighters were disappointing as all hell. Aside from Hit the others were barely any kind of threat.
Frost as soon as his trick was discovered got one shotted, Cabba had to be coaxed by Vegeta to turn Super Saiyan, the robot and Fat Winnie was basically non entities. For being parralel universe of 7, that was really the best 6 had?
>>144680285
I know most people liked her original hair style but I personally liked her best after her haircut.
It's sad that she never really took her fighting skills any further. I mean I never expected her to be Sayain-teir, but she could easily find room for herself in the C-Team (Tien, Krillin, etc).
>>144680345
It's hard to say, if you think about it a lot of most dangerous shit from universe 7 isn't exactly usable in the fight.
Super Buu and Kid Buu are way more potent than the current good buu, and with shit like frieza after training, potentially cell, even dabura would of been a decent selection.
But of course none of them are an option, I'm sure universe 6 has a decent amount of situations like that.
name a better dragonball girl than pic related
protipyou can't
>>144680890
PanGt fighter, loli chichi, Videl twintails...
>>144680890
Was that the one fromt he very last arc in the Dragonball anime? With the magic fan?
>>144680890
Mai
>>144659922
Purple jelly vegeta was better than the entire tournament arc
Goku teaches Chi-Chi how to fly episode when?
>>144681104
why was his voice different?
>>144664124
>being this retarded
wew get some reading comprehension
>>144680935
>PanGt fighter, loli chichi, Videl twintails...
Pan was shit, videl was okay, loli chichi is the only contender here
>>144680963
yes
>>144680982
Mai is pretty good but can she make herself giant?
I didn't think so
>>144682021
>Mai is pretty good but can she make herself giant?
What kind of fetish is that anon?
>>144682021
so you wouldn't want a rebellious girl to jump on your head? assuming Pan took note of Videl glorious days
>>144644107
>Muh headcanon has basis because...
The social value of surnames is basically null when almost next to no one has it except some mountain hick and the manga already stated what's going on with them. So do youself a favor and kill yourself.
>>144682873
>missing the point
>>144619322
This. The show looks like shit, and the first episode was shit. Dropped it immediately.
Black Goku arc is the best thing that ever happened to Dragon Ball
>>144644107
>stop pretending there's a sacrosanct author's guideline when it's concurrently messy and based on IRL structures.
I never said there was such guideline, just pointing out something that has always been there, in every kind of media of this series, but I find it ironic you say that when the character naming system in this series is one of the things Toriyama has always being consistent.
I'm not trying to change minds either.