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Who is your favorite loli artist? For me it's Himeno Mikan

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Who is your favorite loli artist? For me it's Himeno Mikan
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yukino minato
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Too many.
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>>144595908
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>>144596448
Anju makes a lot of faces.
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Can't decide between Satsuki Itsuka and Gomennasai
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>>144595908
For me it's Quzilax: intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humor
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Noise.
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>>144597348
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>>144597348
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>>144595908
You. Now draw me a loli.
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>>144595908
He's never mentioned in those threads, but I love mizu.
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Why is Rustles art so photorealistic?
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>>144598713
Because he likes floors or something.
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Too hard to choose.

There are some that have an art style where anything they do is appealing.

There are others whose art isn't as hot but ace the subject matter.
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I love Ootsuka Reika. She is one of the few loli mangaka I've found who can draw both cute lolis and guys who are cute enough to complement them.

I hope she hasn't permanently transitioned into the mainstream manga world; that would be a loss for loli manga.

>>144597715
I want to! It's just hard to stay motivated for daily practice when my drawings as a beginner are so shit.
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Akatsuki Myuuto for art, though not strictly a loli artist.

Tamachi Yuki for settings, since exhibitionism is a top tier fetish and far too rare.
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>>144597715
>>144599724

Why do i like this idea so much

We already have two drawthreads so it's already a thing, but i really want this to be a thing
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Manga? Hamada Yoshikazu (best lewd drawer in general)
Ero? Gomennasai
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I need more Miyanoki Jiji.
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Azusa norihee
Really lewd lolis and gangbangs. Truly patrician
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>>144599915
I read Geomenasai for hius humor. Though lately also for other reasons.
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I can't really pick just one, a load of them cater to different fetishes so I jump between a few at a time.
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Himeno Mikan, Ooyamada Mangetsu and Medaka Kenichi.
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You can feel BeNantoka's love for lolis in every panel he draws. He's fucking amazing.
But damn, there are a lot of artists I could mention instead of only choosing one. Trying to remember them all would take too long though.
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>>144600779
He is a bit too boring and uncreative.
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>>144600856
You think so? I find him pretty lewd and funny, and his art is pretty damn great as well. The size difference between adorable, small lolis and huge buff men is beautiful.
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>>144595908
Gorgeous Takarada and Satsuki Itsuka.
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Focke Wolfe.

Dokurosan, on the rare occasion he draws them, is also nice.
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>>144599724

Ootsuka Reika was also my favorite. Too bad she's been MIA for a year.
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>>144602098
Is she ok?
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>>144602098
Did her non-H manga flop so hard that she committed sudoku? Oh no.
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>>144597392
>hitting loli
Absolutely NOT okay. For cuddling only.
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Benantoka and Nishi Iori.
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who will translate new tank? loli train when yosh?
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>>144602188
>>144602223
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>>144602371
He said something about waiting until for physical scans until the 26th, then using the current lolitrain scans anyway if nothing happens last time someone asked about it.
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>>144602371
Fakku (read: fuck you) will.
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Henreader without a fucking doubt.
Sasahara Yuuki runner-up.

>>144600174
774 and Takatsu are fantastic too, though given they don't do exclusively loli...
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Too bad she puts her lolis through hell.
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>>144602098
>>144602223
The second volume of her latest series just came out in April: http://kc.kodansha.co.jp/product?isbn=9784063827682 So I think she is alive and well. But probably not going back to hentai any time soon.
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atte7kusa
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>>144603859
>:(

Lurk more before posting on /a/ cancerous newfag.
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>>144604563
>facebook
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>>144602896
She? Oh my.
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Okada Kou.

Im very peeved at the moment, all of the artists mentioned in this thread have so much untranslated content.

Am I really going to have to pay to have the rest of Loli to Bokurano translated?
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Hol up.
You losers actually need to have your porn translated?
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>>144604819
Don't tell me you're a pleb who only faps to pictures and ignores all the extra depth that plot or dialog can add.
How would anyone be able to fap to incest if they don't know it's incest?
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>>144605092
By the way he inserts the dick.
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>>144605144
Do people put their dicks in at a different angle in their sisters than in everyone else? I've never noticed that.
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>>144604819
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>>144604819
Technically speaking I'd put Miso Oden on the list then but I thought this was a thread for manga artists.
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>>144602896
But that's what makes it so good.
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>>144605259
The super secret sister-only angle.
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>>144602896
My favorite. Also about one in four end on a happy or somewhat happy note.
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>>144605367
I like the ones that are ... happier. Like the various monster girl ones and somewhat the one where the little girl fucks her childhood friend's brother till he makes her pregnant.

I didn't find it to be NTR (which I absolutely hate) because the kid was never involved in the story. It's more Netori (which I love) because of the perspective.

Still, all the girls being betrayed by priests to be raped by monsters until they're braindead, becoming food for tentacle monsters, and sold into slavery with their limbs being amputated is far too much for me.
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>>144605585
>Still, all the girls being betrayed by priests to be raped by monsters until they're braindead, becoming food for tentacle monsters, and sold into slavery with their limbs being amputated is far too much for me.
pleb
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>>144596982
I hate this meme
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>>144598713
Because he traces
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>>144606475
A simple man can't just draw those floors from nothing, after all.
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>>144598713
post floor
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>all these lolicon threads
>still no decent introduction to loli charts/lolicon artist powerlevel charts
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>>144608706
Lolicon are worthless perverts!
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>>144608706
You should be able to figure that out by lurking and fapping to LO alone. In fact, lurking and doing whatever you're supposed to is the best way to learn that sort of thing for every subject there is, which is why recommendation charts are stupid.
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I hate this artist so much. His lolis are so ugly
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Slightly off-topic, but does anyone know of a doujin?
It's about a manga artist who tries to make an ecchi loli manga, but sucks at it, so he kidnaps a loli and rapes her repeatedly for inspiration. At the end when he mind breaks her and is finally ready to draw, his editor calls him up and tells him he's fired for wasting so much time
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>>144595908
Gomennasai.
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Anybody know what happend to Inuboshi? He hasnt really made anything in a while
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>>144610533
Good his lolis are too dumb
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yuizaki kazuya
arekusa mahone
yukino minato
henreader
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Who draws the cuddliest looking lolis?
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>>144609822
chapter 2
http://exhentai.org/g/915058/f8b14a6921/
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>>144611296
Murian
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>>144611296
Henreader or Takatsu.
Both have softness down to an artform.
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>>144611924
This, fapping to his works is like sticking your dick in a jar of sugar. If only he was more active.
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Which artists have the best anatomy? I like Ame to Toge, Ponsuke, and Mochi. I feel like they nail loli anatomy better than any other artist. I hate artists that just draw normal flat anime girls.
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>>144595908
Ogu.

3 guesses what my fetish is.

The first 3 don't count.
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>>144612597
Is that Robo-girl and Dr.Sharkcunt?
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>>144595908
It's hard to pick just one but I'd probably have to go with Noise.
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>>144612853
His oppai lolis are the best
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>>144600174
>takatsu
>that loli mother
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>>144600174
>only bat uploaded and translated
Save us, 5am
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Hiyori Mizuki.
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>>144612694
Don't forget to take a look at his most recent work, and take a look at Kurotsuki's other doujin too.
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>>144612597
They look like Trottla dolls!
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Sakurafubuki Nel
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>All these lolis
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>tfw been fapping so much lately that barely nothing come out anymore

Damn you loli let me recharge.
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>Ro
It always ends in rape. Brutal massive rape.
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>>144616645
I'd brutal massive rape Nico
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>>144616483
>no reverse image search results
Why?
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Is anyone familiar with Kamidera Chizu? I would like to find this work of hers that came out recently, but I couldn't find scans anywhere.
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>>144600174
>benantoka
Every
fucking
time
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>>144602371
Wait, there's a sequel to the loli train?
I really wanna see the boss loli getting fucked.
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NOW AND FOREVER

Inuboshi and Tsubaki Joushiro
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>>144600174
This magazine turned out to be really shitty as expected of fake lolis. I'm glad its discontinued
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>>144600174

Where the fuck is that Benantoka loli from?
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>>144617737
/pol/ get the fuck out
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>>144617737
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>>144617737
muslim here, fuck off to >>>/pol/ now.
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>>144617737

Fuck off with your shitty 3DPD monkey speak
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>>144617737
Y'know, I read a fascinating article the other day, from a Muslim scientist who stated his firm belief that text in the Qu'ran actively encourages scientific study, and that some of the earliest adopters of the scientific method were inspired by Islamic Text.

Of course then there's the fact that right now in Turkey the "violent moronic savage" portion of the Muslim population is currently in the process of eliminating the scholarly portion, so y'know...pros and cons.
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>>144617824
I can't believe it took this long to post some Sakura.

Someone post Moon Knives.
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>>144617708
Yea, Yosh is dropping the translation next Easter.
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>>144617824
dont post my wife Sakura
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>>144600174
>amazing
>short, but good
>great
>amazing
>nothing special
>great
>amazing
And I'm only halfway done with it, can't wait until my dick recovers to go for the rest.
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>>144617824
Don't sexualize Sakura.
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>>144618170
quick review of BeNantoka, please
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>>144618215
I stopped right before him, I'm still not emotionally prepared.
And there's a digital scan of the magazine on the panda, you know. Loli-sized resolution but you should be used to small things by now.
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>>144613668
I heard they're kinda dead
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>>144617950
>Muslim here

Not that same guy but you really should fuck off if you're an actual mudslime.
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>>144618329
Not dead, just working too much and thus unable to continue being the loli translation machine he once was.
>that one jew finds out that 5am is poor and dying of starvation
>hires him since he has no other choice
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>>144618001
Muslims conquered and thus wrote a lot of that "history". When in reality they conquered that technology and claimed it as their own.
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has any other artist ever achieved enlightenment
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>>144608878
What kind of perv would do those things to a little girl?
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>>144618474
Also you can't trust a Muzzie, their religion literally allows them to lie if it makes the heat and suspicion away from Islam.
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Dare I say Ashika?
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>>144618532
>3DPD

Go away pedophile.
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>>144618532
Who is this semen demon?
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>>144618215
Post Erika not that one.
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>>144618510
I want lolis or oppai lolis + exhibitionism and humiliation.
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>>144619466
Lurk for two years before posting
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>>144619466
Instead of being a fucking nigger about it you could say something like:

>Hey anon, I've tried everything including saucenao and panda, I'd really appreciate at least an author name or something. I really want to check this one out
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>>144618510
Well, at least there's no cuddling. That shit's lewd.
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>>144619583
>he thinks I've been for less than two years
>he thinks I've been here for barely more than two years
heh

>>144619621
That's boring though, so I preferred to be funny, so people could get a laugh.
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>>144620124
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>>144620124
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>>144620172
Fun fact: 1911's are single action, so that pistol is completely safe to handle.

Well, there could be a round in the pipe and since it doesn't have a firing pin block I guess someone could get shot if she dropped it.
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>>144620270
What does single action mean?
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>>144620249
Anon, pretending to be retarded and making a joke are two different things.
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>>144620365
Trigger performs only one function, which is to drop the hammer. The hammer is down, so the trigger doesn't do anything.

Then there's double action, where the trigger does two actions; both draw the hammer to the rear AND drop it.
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>>144620365
Action is the integral of the Lagrangian of a between two points in time.

Single action is therefore, obviously, describing a system with a single action.
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>>144620466
I don't remember this white loli from Gunslinger Girls. Was it Teatrino? I saw one episode but the animation or something looked bad (I forget) and I forgot to pick it back up.
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>>144620858
That's not from GSG, it's just an artbook.
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Does /k/ love lolis?
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>>144620947
Yes
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>>144620947
We should ask all the other boards who their favorite board related lolis are.
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>>144599456
Which artist is this?
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>>144621357
http://exhentai.org/g/889791/cb697f489e/
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>>144621161
Probably my favorites are between Fujisaka Lyric, Yukiu Con, and Shouji Ayumu
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>>144621545
Oh, thanks. Have a loli ship.
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>>144595908
I like Shiawase 1500, Inuboshi, Himeko Mikan Henreader and Sekiya the most.
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>>144621161
I'll represent /a/
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>>144621161
This is /v/'s.
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>>144610533
He just did one of a loli vampire you can find on tsumino. I also know he did some VN and onhole art recently so he probably is living off the royalties of that.

Or, you know, his regular job is taking up more time now.
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>>144600174
>png
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is it okay for a loli to have oppai
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>>144624879
The best lolis have oppai
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>>144624879
Oppais should be made illegal.
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TKSN
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>>144599724
>Ootsuka Reika
Thank you for this
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>>144595908
Way too many

Gomennasai
Benantoka
Mizu
Sasahara yuki

I can't remember like 300 more that are on my list because their names are harder and I've been exposed to them for lesser time but they're probably just as good.

Benantoka is probably to elder god tier of loli as of right now.

Gomennasai would be up there if he stopped drawing oppai loli shit and started ACTUALLY DRAWING SOMETHING NOT ONCE IN A BLUE MOON.
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Reminder that lolis are for loving.
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Kiyohiko Azuma
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>>144611868
Thanks for the feel
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>>144595908
Love Atte7kusa, despite how few the works he has out are right now. Surprised he never did a Mitsudomoe doujin.
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>>144621161
Tried asking /pol/ who their favorite loli was but the faggot mods instakilled my thread.

/g/ - techloligy is a thing though, just gotta ignore the faggots that crossover from /v/.
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>>144627142
I'm not a fan of fat lolis. I like my girls slim and bony
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>>144627142
Maybe because Mitsudomoe lolis are really ugly?

>>144627209
/v/ has the best lolis tho
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>>144627249
Anon I think you're just really gay.
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>>144627142
Chubby lolis are a gift to the universe, it's a shame there's a very small amount of artists that do it.
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Inuboshi, Ogawa Kanran and everyone in circle Infinity-force.

Special mention to the pixiv artist named bukka.
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>>144618510
I want to humiliate lolis.
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i need to add some more
and i need to remove some of the touhou lolis but i can't decide which
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>>144627209
/pol/'s favorite loli is Hilloli.
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>>144627407
Remove Remilia since she's a shit also those are nice lolis especially Tomarin and Akarin. Those two are very underrated in /l/ threads
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>>144617718
Betty a best
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>>144627457
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>>144602642
Bought this book without hesitation when i saw the cover
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>>144627457
Hilloli is proof of entropy at work.

The universe ever marches towards chaos and destruction from perfection and order.
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>>144627457
>>144627644
Who or what is Hiloli?
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Show even if shklee traces
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>tfw they say their age or grade
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>>144629458
Some artists are that brave, other go with "fuck my _ grader pussy"
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>>144606475
No, that's Show.

Rustle isn't a tracer, please stop memeing. He even had a video of his drawing process.
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>>144629898
Poor Rus
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>>144629968
Not to mention he's going blind.
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>>144595908
damn you wani
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>>144627284
sauce?
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>>144627503
>Remove Remilia since she's a shit

The only thing that is shit is your taste, anon.
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>>144630835
That lying virgin loli spirit.
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>>144627407
You should probably remove Suwako first if you want to remove a few of the 2hu lolis.
Not that she isn't cute, but she's a lot less popular than the others ones, especially the vampire sisters.
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>>144604625
Sauce?
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>>144632022
Yukino Minato - Tsuitenai Shoujo
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>>144632179
Thanks.
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>>144631945
Suwako isn't so bad.
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>>144632256
I didn't mean to imply she is, she's great. She's just nowhere near Remi or Flan in popularity.
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>>144629898
I like how he is so humble and has so great taste.
I think that the people think he traces shows how good his drawings actually are.
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>>144595908
Himeno Mikan's art looks kinda lazy desu. His stories are often really funny, and he makes great meme material, but the bodies he draws always just look so stiff, and the facial expressions remind me of dolls or something. His art style just feels really lifeless, just kind of a flat feeling.
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>>144595908
salad
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>>144633563
>His art style just feels really lifeless, just kind of a flat feeling.
Like most of LO's artists?
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>>144633154
He's a seriously cool guy.
Good fashion sense too.
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>>144633563
What are you talking about, his art is adorable.
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>>144595908
Uran
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>>144633727
Nah, some of LO's artists are really pretty good like Maeshima Ryo or Ponsuke
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Underrated artist: Low
http://exhentai.org/g/523889/c56a7edeb1/

He has literally no translated tankoubons. Save me, LWB, ATF... ;_;
http://exhentai.org/g/945589/44ce572a29/
http://exhentai.org/g/943377/1489fb2516/
http://exhentai.org/g/762028/18b1e0b635/
http://exhentai.org/g/762027/48a2ad7b65/
http://exhentai.org/g/438407/f4bb9997d2/
http://exhentai.org/g/320155/78c0966f84/
http://exhentai.org/g/106526/e0d320a320/
http://exhentai.org/g/77208/035efc90a6/
http://exhentai.org/g/29144/05bec244e2/
http://exhentai.org/g/28660/4dfb32e4a8/
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>>144633811
It is adorable, but it's just not that arousing. I like both cartoonish lolis and "realistic" lolis but his are like statue lolis or something
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Kanro Ame isn't too active but he's another diabetes inducer.
http://exhentai.org/g/754234/806d906ff7/
I mean just look at this chocololi holy fuck
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>Kanyapyi
>Satsuki Itsuka
>BeNantoka
>Nalvas
>Senke Kagero
>Nishi Iori
Just a few of them, but some of the best and some of my favorites.
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lolis are the only good thing left in this world. prove me wrong
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>>144634508
Onee-chans are nice too sometimes. non-loli Imoutos as well.
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but lolicon is illegal, volks
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>>144634823
move to a country that isn't shit
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>>144634569
What if the onee-chan is a loli?
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>>144633734
Yeah, that's of my favorite things about him, just after the smugs and the floors of course.
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>>144596789
>Satsuki Itsuka
Came into the thread to post this
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And old one I reallty like is Ogawa Kanran because of all the loli yuri, especially the loli age-gap yuri. But a lot of people hate the stories for some reason because several turn into getting raped by guys.
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>>144599724
Ootsuka Reika is indeed the best.
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>incest is a major turnoff
>50% of all loli doujins instantly ruined

Why is it always the little sister?
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>>144636812
Why would it be a turnoff? Not that loli/shota isn't the best, but loli/sensei, or prostitute loli/random adult aren't any less abuse than incest loli.
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>>144636812
>incest is a major turnoff

Why? Incest is the best.
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>>144636812
It's the best
old man rape is the turn off
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>>144636956
>implying loli/shota is good
Shit taste
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>>144636666

>tfw I read Reika for the cute stories
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>>144636956
>Why would it be a turnoff?
>>144636985
>Why? Incest is the best.

It's just not for me.
Maybe because I have an actual little sister.
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>>144637086
loli/shota is good. Particularly if one is innocent and getting taken advantage by the more knowledgeable one. Still not as good as loli yuri rape.
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>>144637191
So? I have 3 little sisters. Loli porn doesn't have anything to do with that. I can't see how it would be a turnoff unless you are overly self-conscious. And you're reading drawn porn, you shouldn't be self-conscious.
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>>144618510
He still fucking release new exhibitions and cow tits man
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>>144637268
I don't know. Maybe I just don't like incest porn in the same way many people in this thread don't like big breasts. Just personal preference or something.
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>>144637191
>he doesn't love his loli imouto as a woman
I pity you anon.
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>>144637204
>yurishit
Even worse taste.
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>>144637390
That makes more sense than I don't like incest porn because I have an actual little sister. Because saying that just makes you sound like a faggot.
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>>144637458
Traditional yurishit is indeed terrible. I only like it when rape is involved.
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Depends,
EB110SS for lewdest plots
Makinon tm for the art style
Dokuro-san for the anal play.

Akatsuki Katsuie and Kawasaki Tadataka are also good.
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>>144637191
I have an older sister and I still like incest, it's my number one thing.
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Gengorou.
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>>144638662
>EB110SS

I hate his art do much, but I ended up masturbating to everything he made.

I'm still trying to find that one doujin where a muscular teacher fuck the loli in front of the class.
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>>144636666
Oh, I translated that
Thanks for having such great taste, anon
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>>144617545
>ponpon itai
Fucking gold anon
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Best lolidom artists?
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>>144595960
Yeah, probably this one. Haga Yui and Kanyapyi are pretty close too.
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>>144642391
I think I've spoken to you before. I said it before and I'll say it again, you did a good job. I can't into moon so I don't know if the dialogue felt so natural and flowing normally but it certainly did here. Good job either translating that or adding it, it's probably my favorite of her works although they're all good for different reasons.

What do you think of her new Non-H venture? I here is ambles about and adds too many sidecharacters.
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>>144644549
Most of the time the issue of unnaturally flowing dialogue is not with the Japanese script, but the translation. For some reason, translators are too fixated on having everything 1:1 in their own bubbles, which leads to odd sentence structures. Or their editors don't understand their job.

Not that I was doing it perfectly by any means.

>What do you think of her new Non-H venture? I here is ambles about and adds too many sidecharacters.
I haven't read it at all!
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>>144645295
>For some reason, translators are too fixated on having everything 1:1 in their own bubbles, which leads to odd sentence structures

Going too far though is the path of Commie, and no one wants that.
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>>144645498
Yeah, happy medium is what you should look for. Enough so that the dialogue flows, but not too much so that you're rewriting the whole script. That's one of the reasons why I support having honorifics in the translation - if it's a Japanese setting, it's a part of the story. Getting rid of them would take something out of the story completely.
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Anyone seen the one where loli helps blind dude out in his home?
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>>144646637
Something by quzilax
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>>144636956
>Implying it's abuse if the loli wants it.
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>>144646637
That was a pretty sad one. It made me feel bad for the man and the loli.
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>>144649368
That's what happens all the time with 3D lolis
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>>144595908
Benantoka
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>>144627457
>not Anne Frank
Seriously, post a picture of Anne Frank on there and they can't go ten posts before sexualizing the jew.
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PLEASE TELL ME ABOUT THE BEST LOLI DOM ARTISTS

I've realized that being bullied by smug, dominant lolis is the greatest pleasure this world has to offer.
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>>144631899
>>144630835
Oh fuck how could I have forgotten Mochi?

Though the fact that like, 80% of his stuff is fat old guys is kind of a knock against him.

>>144633868
Maeshima Ryo's slutty exhibitionists are pretty great.
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>>144650939
If it's Lolidom you're looking for, check 774.
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Shiden Akira's lolis are pretty good when he draws them.
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>>144595908
God makes the best lolis.
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>>144649711
Reality is a sad thing indeed. Which is why only our Chinese cartoons can give lolis happy endings.
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>>144641655
This
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>>144641655
>One doujin
It's a full H-Manga, presuming >>144653021 is correct.

Such much loli impregnation.
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>>144653021
>everyone has their first period at the same time just by smelling his cum
It's fucking amazing.
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>>144636123
>that one loli yuri short with two extremely cute lolis bathing naked outdoors that leads into kissing and tribbing
>suddenly ugly-ass mofo steps out of the bushes and rapes them
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>>144654862
That does sound like literally the worst thing ever.
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Aosora.
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>>144618001
>some of the earliest adopters of the scientific method were inspired by Islamic Text
They were inspired by Socrates and Aristotle, you FUCKING moron.
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>>144655219
Is that the garage opener she's holding?
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>>144655268
Only if a garage is a vibrating piece of plastic wedged in the loli's vagina.
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Jikken Shirou
I cannot wait for new pukey at C90.
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>>144624303
>anything other than PNG
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>>144649711
Why did you had to make me think about that?
Now I feel bad for all those cute pairs destroyed. Fuck our dimension.
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>>144655256
I never said I believed him, just repeated what he believed.

Point I was making that it hardly matters if he believes his culture has done good, when the rest of said culture is working to squash the part he believes in.
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