>Watashi wa le Tokyo Kushu
Kill me now
I thought Eto was dead for sure, when I read how you all went crazy, but after reading the chapter I think you all should just calm down. She just closed her eyes, it's not like she got shredded into small pieces.
It was the same with Armin; people were celebrating when he got toasted, and see where we're now.
You should all chill and wait for the next chapter.
>She just closed her eyes
>etofags are snkfags
You know it's a bad day when SnKfags can give you candid, plausible advice on the direction that a manga is going.
No Kaneki Ken you aren't the Tokyo ghoul. This is the real TOKYO GHOUL
Reminder that these are the kinds of people bitching about Eto dying.
>You should all chill and wait for the next chapter.
This is ALWAYS the proper response that people should take to any development, but I'm pretty sure Eto's dead, they built up to it properly and everything.
Unless she deus ex machinas herself back into the story at a critical point 50 chapters from now and reveals that Kaneki fed her some of his kagune to keep her alive.
Eto "dying" has got to be the dumbest thing i have read to date in Tokyo Ghoul, in fact it's the only thing that has ever offended me while reading this series.
Eto obviously isn't immortal and i had anticipated that she may have died by the end of this arc but not like this. For one, Eto was previously shown to be capable of surviving being cut in half and flung off a roof top several stories to the ground, in fact she seemed almost unfazed by it.
And yet, she is dying after getting literally beaten up with injuries that even weak ghoul could heal off in hours. And even if it were enough to kill her, lets say she was severely low on RC due to whatever, why doesn't she just eat one of the numerous ghoul and human corpses mere feet in front of her?
I mean it's one thing to have such a dynamic and important character die(Arima's death was amazing, completely respectful to his character and he went on in a memorable fashion) but to have them job on two recent occasions and have there last big fight be offscreen AND there death? That's honestly absurd.
I'm about 90% sure she isn't dead but u people will keep living in denial
>Become the Be the One-Eyed the Tokyo The Ghoul
Touka can beat any ghoul with the power of friendship and love.
Ayato will never get killed because he needs to stay alive long enough to impregnate Hinami
Yomo will never die because he has to protect MUH FAMILY so he will never suffer again like when his sister died
BEST FAMILY, YOU CANNOT DENY THIS! ISHIDA IS MY KING, KIRISHIMAS ARE MY MASTERS, ALL HAIL THE TOKYO GHOUL
So is everyone just going to accept Kaneki as the new one eye king or are we gonna get some Re:zero type shit where different factions fight over who's the real one eye'd king (clown, V, etc) and Kaneki was just Arima's candidate.
>I never implied that he was emotionally detached from Arima. Learn the englisch language.
Really? You said:
>Not at all. Hirako's isn't emotional. He simply followed Arima's order.
Which implies that Hirako, detached and without emotion, followed Arima's order.
>He literally didn't care about his job at all. That's why he wrote the letter when Arima told him too. Hirako had other goals, other things he valued than his job. That's clear.
I'm not sure what shitthole country you live in, but being apithetic about your job doesn't usually entail vindictively betraying other employees and becoming a wanted criminal by colluding with de facto cannibals.
>Feeling strongly about something, doesn't mean you have to hate it. Not at all. His non-homo friendship with Arima may have been strong enough for him to take this decision. Nothing implies any hatred in him.
Oh, so you do think he did felt strongly about CCG as he quit, just not hate?
So what emotion do you think he felt strongly than? Joy? Amusement? Maybe love?
What strong emotion would Hirako feel which would fit that situation you autistic fuck?
Kaneki has become the king and is gonna fight the injustice of his world and lead the ghouls to a better future. He gonna fight against the world (V or Washuu's) and he let a SSS on his side die. No matter what you say, this is just stupid. Fucking stupid, she should not have died
Kaneki let her die. He let a SSS ghoul that is on his side and would fight for him die. This has nothing to do with being a fag. Just fucking stupid.
>Not at all. Hirako's isn't emotional. He simply followed Arima's order.
You took this out of context. It was a reply to you saying that Hirako's mad at the CCG. And he isn't He isn't emotional like that. That doesn't mean that he has no emotions though, ESL-kun.
>I'm not sure what shitthole country you live in, but being apithetic about your job doesn't usually entail vindictively betraying other employees and becoming a wanted criminal by colluding with de facto cannibals.
What has that to do with anything? Hirako simply decided who he wanted to work for. He didn't anyone at the CCG that made him come out on his own an call them shit.
>Oh, so you do think he did felt strongly about CCG as he quit, just not hate?
No, I literally explained that he felt more for Arima and the Zero Squad than the CGG. It's as simple as that. He didn't hate anyone.
>So what emotion do you think he felt strongly than? Joy? Amusement? Maybe love?
We don't know how close he was to Arima exactly.
>What strong emotion would Hirako feel which would fit that situation you autistic fuck?
Kill yourself senpai.
Actually no. It can't just be 'Re'. If you use Google translate, it has to be exactly :re for it to be translated into king. I, unironically, think this is a legit use of DEEPEST LORE.
Tokyo ghoul Re: should end like this
>CCG is reformed, V taken down, washus all dead
>human and ghoul relations somehow better
>Kaneki is sitting at a cafe sipping coffee while reading a book
>a long haired girl shows up to sit at his table
Well, I am convinced that if possible she's want to be there herself when this fucked up world gets destroyed (V-Washuu) and reshaped into something better. Yes, i am pretty sure she'd would want to live,
but I am also sure she would not ask Kaneki to save her.
Chapter 66: "So, it has begun."
Chapter 87: "So, it has ended."
Where's Amon at? What is this guy even doing? Is he at Rue or Cochlea? How will he react when he meets with his father, Donato?
Kaneki is going to have to build a squad if he wants to take down V, I wonder who's gonna be a part of it.
Also, I feel like we're gonna get an introduction to new V characters because we're running out of bad guys who can stop Kaneki.
I guess someone needed to fill the void Kubo will leave behind.
I can't wait when Ishida turns Rize into a retarded, submissive waifu. The Rize we all loved is gone. She will end up in trash, like Eto and Furuta.
So I guess Banjou stopped being a shield and decided to be a medpac instead?
Isn't Aogiri completely decimated at this point?
The whole premise for saving ghouls involved killing off most of them.
Heck at this point they should die off on their own.
There have been a few close outs, most of the 6h ward ghouls banjou brought with him are dead. Aogiri did a bunch of killing and assimilated a lot of ghouls.
Its like they just appear out of nowhere yet somehow haven't managed to eat the rest of the city yet.
I just feel like they haven't done a very good job actually showing WHY all this effort is required to take V down. Really, in the original manga, they came off almost like a petty gang, like a smaller Aogiri. Why have Eto and Arima gone to such lengths?
Well, I am convinced that if possible she's want to be there herself when this fucked up world gets destroyed (V-Washuu) and reshaped into something better. Yes, i am pretty sure she'd would want to live,
''but I am also sure she would not ask Kaneki to save her''
Can someone add this to the suffering chart?
After all the suffering a big fat "I QUIT" would make it complete.
>I thought Eto was dead for sure, when I read how you all went crazy, but after reading the chapter I think you all should just calm down.
Exactly. That is how this place always is. It's one of the few reasons I only lurk to laugh at the shiposting instead of actually trying to discuss the series. The average /a/ Tokyo Ghoul reader is either underage, mentally handicapped, or both.
Kaneki will fix the mind broken Rize by reading her books and rekindling her love for literature. Eventually she'll start reading on her own and she'll slowly develop into a shy book worm type that act flustered/anxious around her senpai Kaneki.
Even then it really doesn't show how bad they are CCG would keep going without them.
Its like V is a scapegoat for all the characters being assholes and being hunted because of it.
I thought that was the whole point? That they were actually competent enough to actually hide the fact that everyone else is their bitch. Otherwise, Arima and Eto wouldn't have to team up.
>And again Etofags being this assblasted
In the end Eto was another pawn sacrificed to activate Touka's godly plot armour.
Face it, Nips never did and never will give a fuck about Eto simply because most of them are Touka Fags. Ishida has a clear bias towards her and this isnt going to change.
Either dealwithit and worship the goddess or fuck off and find some other shit tier waifu.
>Didn't they also arrange the murder of the Yasuhisa guy,
He was working with them to begin with.
>That they were actually competent enough to actually hide the fact that everyone else is their bitch. Otherwise, Arima and Eto wouldn't have to team up.
So far its only the CCG that work for them.
Why do people think that Eto wants to die?
i am pretty sure Eto wants to live, I am sure Eto wants to see this world burn (Washuu or V) and get reshaped into something better. just because she didn't ask for help from Kaneki doesn't mean that she wants to die. Kaneki already once told her that he doesn't want to save her or more accurately why he should.
So Eto doesn't ask him. She just says ''I am going to die''
Just saying, if they really are as powerful and secretive as Arima/Eto says they are, then we really shouldn't be hearing any sort of news about them. Otherwise, the two wouldn't have to team up.
>Why do people think that Eto wants to die?
You are on /a/: where headcanons, delusions, and shitposts supersede rationality as well as what is objectively transpiring in the story.
While it is quite possible she may wish for death much like Kaneki once did (going by their similarities) but the "Eto wants to die confirmed" garbage is headcanon at the moment.
Maybe she doesn't WANT to die, but she realises she HAS to.
If she's alive, she will take some of the spotlight away from Ken, the real One Eyed King. Ken needs all the spotlight to unite the ghouls and destroy V and Washuu or w.e
>Didn't they also arrange the murder of the Yasuhisa guy
Reminder that he was possibly killed by Uta
I personally blanked the entire Anteiku involvement in the chapter out, because it's pretty damn good when you do that and thus ignore the fact that Hirako's about to die for the fucking Kirishimas.
>tgfags claimed this manga and the previous one as a masterpiece
>mfw everything would be better if haise was alive
>When it ended with arima winning it was 10/10
Haha, you really calling it a masterpiece because of some asspull winning? 3/10 try again
Also for the main character that mumbled with himself is easily 1/10
No, I really don't believe so. Arima was already at deaths door, but Eto's death could have easily been prevented by Kaneki. I am sure that if she could she would want to help Kaneki and see her dream finalized. Why would Eto want to die if she could stay alive and help Kaneki even further.
I believe she says she's going to die is because she believes nobody is going to help her. She doesn't thing that Kaneki will help her so she doesn't ask. But if she could I believe she would want to.
Unf. Carrying this big fat quinque around sure gets tiring. I need something to sit on.
I'm pretty sure Ken would save her if she asked. I wouldn't be surprised if next chapter or few we see Eto alive and well after Ken saves her anyways.
She doesn't want to ask to be saved because she knows that her death would help Ken unite the ghouls.
Ah TG was great.
Kaneki died and life just go on without him.
TG sent message that there is no happy ending just incomplete stories.
I expected part 2 to be about Amon as ghoul.
Kaneki seriously should died back then.
Instead he got amnesia which erased all of his character development.
Then he regained his memory and went full suicidal like few last chapter of TG didn't happened.
Qs which was comedy show.
Kaneki doesn't feel like character anymore.
So is Hirako going to follow Kaneki around or something now. I'm pretty sure aiding ghouls is a serious offense and even if he somehow escaped with nobody knowing his career is now gone and in Japan once that happens you're pretty much doomed to a life of parttime work.
Should have never let him fall in love with Arima.
>I am become the Become The Tokyo Ghoul
>the Become the
>So is Hirako going to follow Kaneki
I really hope so, Hirako seems to be loyal to Arima so it's natural to follow his successor. Hirako is based and deserve to be Kaneki's sword more than that faggot Tsukiyama.
Looking back, Ishida must've been planning this Kirishima rescue by Hirako for a long time.
>I'm pretty sure aiding ghouls is a serious offense
Well, yeah it's the death penalty.
On the other hand if Kaneki makes a new nation for ghouls, he'll get a cushy well-paying job and can easily snag a 10/10 ghoul waifu as the human that bravely fought for the equal rights of ghouls.
I don't know but that hamsta even appears in Saiko's room. It must be a weaboo thing.
Hirako might've know about the plot to make Kaneki the king since the first part, if this "I see" is supposed to have some deep meaning like everything else supposedly has.
he probably recognizes kaneki in this panel when his quinque breaks and he doesn't get eviscerated. All other ghouls wouldve just bent him over and fucked him raw at this point, with quinque broken.
Eto is probably still alive. after she closed her eyes, she still kept talking so her closing her eyes didn't mean that she died. And that means that she actually died off screen while she talked to Kaneki. That's not something that actually happens in Tg with important characters.
And if she did die in this chapter then Ishida is a fucking savage feel so underwhelming, like she is not important at all. So I'll go with Eto''s status as: Unkown. (just like my girlfriend)
I am the One Eyed Shitposter(Clown,King)
I am the TOKYO GHOUL
>So far its only the CCG that work for them.
The CCG is a global organization and so is V. They just assassinate politicians who they don't like, using ghouls like Kuzen.
I think you can imagine how powerful and influential they are.
>Whether you sit on the throne or destroy it is all up to you.
I am THE Tokyo Ghoul.
We have. Matsuri went to germany to help out and Houji to China.
The japanese branch will probably request help from the german branch after this whole mess, since they've lost so many important people.
We'll probably end up with characters like Sonderermittler Hans Schnitzler and his Sonderstaffel or something like that.
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Wow. A well thought and seasoned response that actually warranted modicum of brain cells to produce. And it did not even necessitate intelligence: just general common sense. This isn't at all how Ishida kills off major characters. If Eto finally does die, it sure as fuck won't be off-paneled and trivialized like this. She's too instrumental of a character. Plus, there's no real "finality" here.
>"Oh shit I'm dying haha. Got BTFO by that clown faggot. I saved those useless shits of yours btw. Ah don't, worry about my request lol"
>-Insert CCG vs Plot Armor: The Characters-
>CCG jobs as expected.
>We hear Eto's words to Kaneki about Arima being the OEK and what they did to keep the seat warm for Kaneki narrate in Kaneki's mind.
>Chapter ends. It's unknown what happened between Kaneki and Eto after the said dialogue took place.
>"Eto ded as fuck. She closed her eyes. Datz it mane."
It amazes me how gullible people are. Then again, people here still think wolf wolf, devil ape, and Hide are dead despite no actual corpses or finalized death scenes. So I guess this reaction is to be expected.
The entire way it happend is what is bothering me.
We got shown how much shit she could do and some stuff only she was capable of thus far.
loli bandage form was speedster
naked Eto had mouth kagune that could not only fuck your shit up, but turn other ghouls into somekind of abomination
Armor form(cannot remember the name) could either leap several km or fly and was massivly powerfull
She reached that state by years of torment and canibalizing and by being the managers daughter and being a one eye.
Now she got shredded like nothing by the sudden appearance of a Kagune, from a most likely not long ago created one eye that got Rize kagune.
Said one eye even said he underwent the procedure in secret and kept his stat a secret from everyone else.
This begs to question how he could become so powerfull to wipe someone like Eto like it was absolutely nothing.
Remember we got told before how you become powerfull, you either are a binge eater that feeds on huge amounts of humans to rise your RC level, you canibalize other ghouls on mass, you get destroyed and healed a fuck ton.
It is highly unbelievable that the fucker did any of this while still being able to keep it a secret that he underwent the operation.
We also have to remember how fucking much was neccessary for Kaneki to reach a point at which he could fight her.
Despite that we were clearly shown that she is capable of losing more than half her body mass and still be okay and simply regenerate the entire lost half of the body.
Despite that she now is supposedly dying.
The thing making one angry is not that she is dying, it was pretty obvious that she would at some point.
What is making one angry is how it is happening and by this point I have not even mentioned the fact that basically just killing anyone around there and giving her something to eat would be a simply way to save a ghoul, especially one with that regenerative power.
tfw the combined efforts of the clownposters released the Clown boss.
We really didn't see that, it was mainly just mentioned and there was a little peak in a flashback.
Aogiri seems like it would have warranted help long ago.
Also aren't all the CCG members seen just working around Tokyo?
I don't know what you were expecting when TG is a shounen
Owl was strong in the first manga so Ishida has the owl job to everyone new to show how scary they are. This is standard shounen fare.
I have no idea what is even going on.
>Eto's dead, they built up to it properly and everything.
Reality is far from that, the entire execution and the person that caused it was a major fucking BS and still makes no sense invers.
I said this several chapters ago and everytime they said I should wait till next chapter, shit is going to be explained and make sense, but sofar nothing.
Yes, but its just that they never called in investigators from other cities to help with large raids.
There isn't a good reason there aren't like 30 special class on rue right now and a few more guarding important facilities.
Well that clears it up.
If it is now a shonen, we are just simply following standard shonen procedure of the prior most broken character being stomped like it was nothing to show how powerfull the new or real or true evil is (hell I think even Final Fantasy did that several times).
I'm actually on the fence about Shachi, so I don't particularly feel strongly about it one way or the other. But I think it makes more sense for him to be alive as he could very well be V's only link to finding Rize.
>The whole situation with Shachi is suspicious as fuck, especially now with the reveal that Arima was working against V all along.
Shachi's inner monologue before facing Arima in chapter 65 was one of the biggest clues Arima wasn't fully loyal to the Washuu.
Why wouldn't they for a short period of time? There are plenty of cities in Japan with a large enough population to have a large presence.
Its not like it would be a permanent reassignment either just a few days to help with the raid and the CCG has tons of investigators they pretty much farm them.
Finding a few investigators for Aogiri for the long term and finding a large number to help with short term actions should be simple.
Ishida probably wanted to release this chapter for ages, i'm guessing he has a giant boner right now in this instant that will not calm down until the manga ends.
This is it lads, this is the culmination of the ultimate keikaku in TG, we're approaching something good.
Another reason on top of pic related why she more than likely isn't dead. Fuck, it still hasn't been explained why Kaneki's kagune and kakuja are becoming so much like hers after eating her kakuja either.
That is why they take in orphanized kids and raise them to be racist mental tards that are willing to waste their life away to slaughter someone.
Hell it is not like all they do is kill the ghouls in action, they kill the kids and even pregnant women like it is nothing despite them looking like humans even if those try to avoid harming humans and get their meat from elsewhere.
Normal folks would see that they fully human capable of thought and conscience, but that developed for some reason a trait that allows them only to live of meat high in RC cells, which is only found in normal humans and ghouls.
The appropriate approach would be to either find a cure for this or create RC cells artificialy or a substitue for them and produce food with it that they could eat normaly.
Kaneki's neo mafia is going to be amazing
>the entirety of the god tier arima secret squad 0
>Eto (if she survives)
I left Ayato out because he's THAT much of a faggot, and i dont expect him to betray Aogiri
I also left Tsukiyama out because he's probably still depressed about his waifu dying.
And now we just need The Tokyo Ghoul (Amon) and we're good to go.
What will be their first mission lads? go against Kanou and fuck him in the ass to rescue the manager?
This keikaku is impressive, but is it even comparable to the King of Keikaku???
But who wants to be a King when you can be a GOD.
>I'll mess up the One-Eyed King for ya
Furuta always delivers.
He's her hope, but-
She still needs to live to actually see it. Otherwise, all this shit was pointless.
>Ogura also wants to join but they don't let him because he's just fucking useless
I like Eto and all, but she sure as fuck isn't selfless. She formed Aogiri "join us or we'll fucking kill you" Tree. She does nothing without an ulterior motive, same with her saving the Kirishits. It was to make Kaneki more receptive to her. And I was going by the link I posted. She "found hope", but the rest can't happen if she dies here.
>Tatara was referring to Arima the whole time
>even if those try to avoid harming humans and get their meat from elsewhere.
Only one character in the manga has stuck to that.
Also most of the investigations we have seen follow a body trail chances are the ccg would have trouble finding someone who wasn't close to someone causing a problem.
>Normal folks would see that they fully human capable of thought and conscience, but that developed for some reason a trait that allows them only to live of meat high in RC cells, which is only found in normal humans and ghouls.
Normal folks get eaten and a lot of the recruits knew someone who was a victim.
>The appropriate approach would be to either find a cure for this .
Isn't that what V is doing in the background?
>or create RC cells artificialy or a substitue for them and produce food with it that they could eat normaly
Its not going to work for a large population as its expensive and ghouls have no reason to trust the ccg, nor would anyone be happy to pay extra taxes for the guy who ate their family member to eat.
Arima really doesn't give a fuck about his fellow CCG members. Amon and Takizawa were turned into ghoulscums just because he is going to pass through that area so any witnesses have to be wiped out.
>Only one character in the manga has stuck to that.
>Also most of the investigations we have seen follow a body trail chances are the ccg would have trouble finding someone who wasn't close to someone causing a problem.
Actually we know that many ghouls in the managers and Sacchi's district did infact try to live without harming humans.
The reason that shit went down was Rize being a greedy little bitch that had respect for no one.
>Normal folks get eaten and a lot of the recruits knew someone who was a victim.
Yes, because ghouls most of the time have no otherway.
They have no access to baic education and are living in a cycle of abuse and death and from what we were shown starving as a ghoul is far worse than starving as a human.
Also keep in mind no progress towards helping them was made at all.
But humans despite ghouls being like that are told they are simply monster in public, to most normal people it seemed surprising that Takatsuki Sen was a ghoul as their common believe is ghouls are more something akin to monsters without mind and emotion.
That is why outing her as a ghoul caused such a huge uproar.
Concerning the recruits, not all of them lost someone and even then they are getting an awfully onesided education.
Hell we were even shown that they let them be teached by the mental garbage of society that turtures small animals like cats.
We basically saw that they made a psychopath teach them to be ruthless cruel and without emotion.
>Isn't that what V is doing in the background?
Hell no, V seems to be more something akin to the Illuminaty or Freimaurer conspiracy shit.
>Its not going to work for a large population as its expensive and ghouls have no reason to trust the ccg, nor would anyone be happy to pay extra taxes for the guy who ate their family member to eat.
How do you know finding and producing something like that is expensiv.
Especially more enpensiv than founding an entire didicated paramilitary police force, 1/2
...police force, elementary school up to university, research centers, hospitals, office buildings and all that other shit.
CCG is probably the biggest financial hole in the entire country, espcially as it seems as if the Washu do not want to fully exterminate the ghouls as they still need them as an excuse in public to exist and play their power.
The CCG must waste a yearly budget of several billion $ or €, most likely even more.
Considering they have all the shit of a milatary force structure wise aside from the amount of people it might even reach the 100 billion tier.
How is that more expensive than finding either a cure or a way to process normal food in a way that the ghouls can survive on it.
Not only would you open an entirely new markt, you would also prevent a single ghoul from growing too powerfull and had an entire new group of consumers, not only for food, but now also for everyday shit and TVs and cars and more.
Hell educate them and give them work, you can earn tax money of that instead of wasting it on them who cannot pay it just to exterminate them.
This entire shit would be the normal approach, only by believing ghouls are stupid monsters the public and government would not go for this.
Shit ghouls would be an awesome labour force for risk and construction jobs.
I can totally see big shots hiring ghouls as bodyguards, because not only can they jump inbetween you and the bullet, but high caliber will not still fuck your shit up and you do not have to pay monster amounts of money if the buard died, they could also easily identify from were the shot came.
Alright what now?
Now Kaneki has been confirmed the king he will ecounter the with's servants (Clowns).
Who's the witch?
Is Mutsuki going to become the One-Eyed Queen?
>Haise was supposed to train the Quinx to beat Arima.
>Whoever could defeat Arima is the One-eye King.
>Kaneki is a rinkaku, Mutsuki is a bikaku. Bikakus beat rinkakus.
Kaneki will job to her so he can fake his death and quit being the King when he's tired of it.
Well she does enjoy laughing her ass off.
Look at his fucking yaoi hands.
OMG this is the hidden truth of the clowns
Clowns like to have fun in the fucked up world. Kaneki is the king to end the fun and restore the world. Mutsuki is Kaneki's counterpart. Mutsuki is badshit crazy like a witch.
The clowns wanted Mutsuki to be their witch. They are her servants.
>Actually we know that many ghouls in the managers and Sacchi's district did infact try to live without harming humans.
>Also keep in mind no progress towards helping them was made at all.
Maybe because they might get eaten?
>But humans despite ghouls being like that are told they are simply monster in public, to most normal people it seemed surprising that Takatsuki Sen was a ghoul as their common believe is ghouls are more something akin to monsters without mind and emotion.
Ironically by virtue of her hobbies she was a monster.
>That is why outing her as a ghoul caused such a huge uproar.
People are stupid.
There are uproars about a police officer shooting a man in self defense.
>Concerning the recruits, not all of them lost someone and even then they are getting an awfully onesided education.
There isn't that much good to say about ghouls under investigation.
>Hell no, V seems to be more something akin to the Illuminaty or Freimaurer conspiracy shit.
The only clue we have to their goal is Arima's conjecture and keeping their identity safe is something most ghouls do.
>How do you know finding and producing something like that is expensiv.
Growing human flesh in a test tube doesn't sound cheap. It still isn't cheap you can look it up.
>Especially more enpensiv than founding an entire didicated paramilitary police force, 1/2
You'd still need that or the city wouldn't be able to respond if something happened.
>How is that more expensive than finding either a cure or a way to process normal food in a way that the ghouls can survive on it.
Because their side goal is producing a cure or something like that. So all those diverted funds you were thinking of were going to your ideal solution, which hasn't shown results.
The whole idea of humans being responcible for saving ghouls is for the victims to help killers at personal cost.
Its a nice idea, but not something to be expected
They led the ghouls in the ward and no direct killings were allowed under sacchi if it was not for protection.
Manager distributed food from suicide victims towards several ghouls in his ward
>Maybe because they might get eaten?
Yes! But you keep ignoring the environment and manipulation that both average human and ghoul had to deal with.
>Ironically by virtue of her hobbies she was a monster.
Yes, just how monsters exist among humans aswell, also her background is what caused her development like that and still part of it was played to fullfill a certain role.
It is like you did not understand the manga and story at all, reading comprehension is not high with you is it?
>People are stupid.
>There are uproars about a police officer shooting a man in self defense.
Is this really supposed to be your argument?
If they take a dangerous individual out that is one thing, but if they wipe a family with little kids out that did not harm anyone and tried to live in a way that did not directly harm humans that is entirely different.
I get now, your problem is not reading comprehension and world understanding, but just being a major "muh fuck shit" fag.
>There isn't that much good to say about ghouls under investigation.
First examples we got were Hinami, Hinami's mother and Hinami's father, afterwards we got Touka and Ayato's father.
Touka herself and ended up under investigation because she tried to help Hinami, Rize was underinvastigation, because she was fucked up by V.
>The only clue we have to their goal is Arima's conjecture and keeping their identity safe is something most ghouls do.
They slaughter not only faulty, but also innocent ghouls left and right under the disguise of humans in the CCG.
Hell they had no qualms about killing the newborn Eto, because she was a hybrid that could have crosed boundaries as it threatend their might and control of the world.
At this point you are no longer a "muh fuck shit" fag, ....
Type in Malta clowns
FUCKING MEME MAGIC
.....but just a full blatant troll.
>Growing human flesh in a test tube doesn't sound cheap. It still isn't cheap you can look it up.
You know that your argument relies on the most expensive possible solution, also sofar no attempt at even doing that or researching that was done.
Oh hey but wait, CCG is doing exactly that with ghoul flesh in their laboratories wasting money.
You can try to reproduce the RC cells or find an alternative to it, you do not just need to fully regrow the flesh.
>You'd still need that or the city wouldn't be able to respond if something happened.
Or if can manage a way of coexistence you could simply create a normal combined police force of humans and ghouls instead of that major 100 billion dollar bullshit the CCG is.
>Because their side goal is producing a cure or something like that. So all those diverted funds you were thinking of were going to your ideal solution, which hasn't shown results.
They have shown no attempt at something like that sofar, the only thing they have shown is that they oppose anything that seems to threaten their worldview or control or power, even if it is a fucking newborn.
>The whole idea of humans being responcible for saving ghouls is for the victims to help killers at personal cost.
>Its a nice idea, but not something to be expected
Please stop trolling, no one can be this mentaly disabled.
>>They led the ghouls in the ward and no direct killings were allowed under sacchi if it was not for protection.
When was this said?
He just said for Rize not to get carried away?
>Manager distributed food from suicide victims towards several ghouls in his ward
How many people commit suicide in his area? Do you really think it would be enough for a large number of ghouls?
>Yes! But you keep ignoring the environment and manipulation that both average human and ghoul had to deal with.
Ghouls are antisocial by their environment I don't know how anyone could plan to work with them.
>If they take a dangerous individual out that is one thing, but if they wipe a family with little kids out that did not harm anyone and tried to live in a way that did not directly harm humans that is entirely different.
We have no proof there are many families like that.
Kids grow up and slaughter a bunch of people, its preventative. If Touka and Ayato were killed off when they were kids a lot of people would be alive.
Ghouls put ghouls first, why wouldn't humans put humans first?
>I get now, your problem is not reading comprehension and world understanding, but just being a major "muh fuck shit" fag.
You're just full of yourself, its easy to get people riled up calming them different.
>First examples we got were Hinami, Hinami's mother and Hinami's father, afterwards we got Touka and Ayato's father.
We don't know if Hinami's father killed people.
Touka and Ayato's father was fine with their mother going on killing sprees.
>You know that your argument relies on the most expensive possible solution, also sofar no attempt at even doing that or researching that was done.
RC solution is also expensive, there is no indication of a easy solution.
>Oh hey but wait, CCG is doing exactly that with ghoul flesh in their laboratories wasting money.
They is no indication they have artificial ghoul flesh.
If you read it reverse in Japanese it would be rei because re is a single 'word' so it would become re + i. It's like with anteiku, you can read it as kuitena (= don't eat) if you reverse the word.
I want this handsome bastard to make a return
>When was this said?
>He just said for Rize not to get carried away?
Reread the entire manga, like right now.
>How many people commit suicide in his area? Do you really think it would be enough for a large number of ghouls?
Japan has one of the highest suicide rates in the world and they mentioned rather early that a ghoul only actualy needs to eat like once a month and not even that much.
>Ghouls are antisocial by their environment I don't know how anyone could plan to work with them.
They are antisocial because they got no otherway to live, remember the organization that created paramilitary force that looks overly stupidly blown up just for killing them.
>We have no proof there are many families like that.
>Kids grow up and slaughter a bunch of people, its preventative. If Touka and Ayato were killed off when they were kids a lot of people would be alive.
>Ghouls put ghouls first, why wouldn't humans put humans first?
Are you fucking kidding me?
The entire point of her family was to show that investigators do not care if you actually harm humans or not, same case as with Arata the father of Touka and Ayato.
>We don't know if Hinami's father killed people.
We got shown that he worked as a fucking doctor.
>Touka and Ayato's father was fine with their mother going on killing sprees.
That was her brother after she was killed.
>RC solution is also expensive, there is no indication of a easy solution.
>They is no indication they have artificial ghoul flesh.
Did you miss that quinque degrade and have to be constantly kept alive, after all they are made of living beings.
how fucked is CCG
-lost zero squad
-Marude is about to start a fucking civil war within CCG ranks
is it even gonna survive this or will Marude start a new more non ghoul invested organization?
amon suspected this CCG conspiracy a while ago. i wouldnt be surprised if they had many experiments waiting to fuck everyone up. sunlit garden and probably some more dangerous half ghouls. wasnt ccg funding dr kanou? does he somehow fit in here? it seems like he has his own motives though.
>Reread the entire manga, like right now.
No, see pic.
>Japan has one of the highest suicide rates in the world and they mentioned rather early that a ghoul only actualy needs to eat like once a month and not even that much.
Japan has a suicide rate of about 20 out of 100,000 people.
Tokyo has a population of 14 million
If you do the math there would be about 2800 suicides per year in Tokyo.
If there were 200 ghouls in the ward, which seems like a low estimate, it would come out to 2400 people per year to feed them all.
If you think about it in order to feed the majority half of the suicides in the entire city..
If you add Shachi's ward to the case there would be no way that there would be that many involved in avoiding eating people.
>They are antisocial because they got no otherway to live, remember the organization that created paramilitary force that looks overly stupidly blown up just for killing them.
They are what they are and that is what they would be dealing with.
>The entire point of her family was to show that investigators do not care if you actually harm humans or not, same case as with Arata the father of Touka and Ayato.
Arata let their mother kill a lot of people its not like he was a saint.
Arata was also preparing for a fight.
>The entire point of her family was to show that investigators do not care if you actually harm humans or not
Thats wrong but its the rare case and there is no way to prove that they haven't killed anyone nor will they kill anyone in the future.
>We got shown that he worked as a fucking doctor.
Not in the manga.
>That was her brother after she was killed.
Touka admitted to killing a bunch of people out of spite when talking to Yomo at the end of TG.
She only calmed down a little earlier.
>Did you miss that quinque degrade and have to be constantly kept alive, after all they are made of living beings.
That wasn't mentioned either.
You have an optomistic opinion about everything but the CCG.
THE TRUE TOKYO GHOUL TAKES THE THRONE
SOMEONE POST THE GIF TO CELEBRATE
You could say the same thing about the number of ghouls
-Tsukiyama family lost
-11th ward decimated
-Aogiri killing off ghouls for the last 4 years
-Aogiri may be finished off
-Anteiku gangs exterminated
-6th ward just took a hit
They've been getting hit hard the last few years.
Both sides should be fucked.
There is so much story material that could've been done with Amon already. It fuckin pisses me off.
He was on Rue fucking Yoshitoki's shit up.
>wasnt ccg funding dr kanou? does he somehow fit in here? it seems like he has his own motives though.
Kanou worked with the CCG officially as an autopsy doctor, Kuroiwa Sr. remembers hearing about him having strange ideas a while back.
He might of worked with V, nothing is really known about his previous work.
Yeah, the Kaneki and Arima shit with the OEK pattern in the background were dead giveaways.
i mean you're probably right but it has equal chance of being takizawa.
I miss Haise. Post your favorite Haise moments.
The page on the left was one of the most hype moments in :re.
It's a shame that the fight following it was the most disappointing and poorly drawn chapter in :re.
They will be Kaneki's legacy when he dies like Haise is Arima's. They can also be the thing that gets thrown at Kaneki's face if he ever goes the self-destruct route again thinking he deserves to die because he does everything wrong. The Qs were one thing he did right. He's an inspiration to all of them like Arima was to any investigator.
Shirazu was a sacrificial lamb meant to develop the rest of the Qs and close the chapter on "Haise". Urie seems to be developing romantic feelings for Mutsuki, which will be stressed by her mental instability and likely lingering attachment to Kaneki. The new Qs could very well be fodder or a new generation type deal. Not sure about Saiko yet, since her development arc hasn't come up yet.
I really wished Ishida made Kaneki go the imouto route and have him actually spend a night a lone with Hinami.
HINAMI BEST GIRL
The page before that one always breaks my heart.
So everyone likes the twists?
Probably am the only one but was honestly disappointed.
Also in my opinion Ishida somewhat goes a bit overboard with whole symbolism stuff.
Oh well following the ride until the end
No the response to the twist has been mild and sometimes negative.
Nobody seems to care that much anymore.
Arima as the oek has been speculated for a long time, but its such a mild thing because he was just nominally in that role.
Kaneki becoming the oek has been obvious for a long time.
Only thing that people cared about was the possibility of Eto dying.
So how fucked are Kaneki and the rest of the Ghouls?
Will there be any new natural half-ghouls? I'm afraid that Ishida is going to introduce a shit ton of new characters in the next arc, only for most of them to die without any sort of development.
>I never thought they were cooperating all this time so thats what took me by surprise.
I thought that was stupid, Arima says he hated killing two chapters ago, then it turns out he was working to get everyone killed, because killing a bunch of people will make the world a better place.
People are contradictory by nature. He thought that what he was doing was for the greater good and that more people would be saved in the long run if he made some sacrifices in the present.
Well this is a different setting from what we are used to IRL, their motivations will not make much sense to us.
Anyway, Arima was brought up in the Garden, he had no choice if he wanted to live. I guess their(EtoxArima, current best ship) endgame is not to kill everyone, but to stop the killing status quo between Ghoul and Humans.
Kaneki was brought up this way, right from the original TG, his maturity under Arima and the current arc with Eto, im sure there were a lot of foreshadowing about the cooperation if you back read TG. Knowing Kaneki he would most likely try to end the conflict.. I guess? Ishida might write another twist.
He was killing to end the chain of killing. I think Arima liked the idea of looking for someone who could stop him because if he did, that person would definitely be able to stop V and would also put him to rest. In the end he was tired to be a tool while not knowing how to stop being one and wished someone would force him to stop. It's really shitty of Ishida to turn Arima into such an interesting character after he's fucking dead. Arima is basically proto suicidal Kaneki without the mommy issues.
>It's really shitty of Ishida to turn Arima into such an interesting character after he's fucking dead
It's genius too, all this time thinking he is just some flat character who is basically the end boss, then bam its so much deeper than that.
I'm no manga expert, but Ishida is literal genius for me when it comes to writing stories, if you back read TG once it is finished, I guarantee you'll love it even more with all the foreshadowing you will notice.
He is not Aogiri though, unlikely Kaneki will associate with them too.
>He is not Aogiri though, unlikely Kaneki will associate with them too.
Arima was going along with the plan.
Unless they miraculously escape Rue there shouldn't be many left for Kaneki to work with.
It's a little too optimistic. Revolution always involves death and the way that Arima and Eto have been hacking lives to create the throne for Kaneki, it seems too sinister. A throne made of blood and skulls of Kaneki's murderous parents, and Kaneki is gonna come clean by sitting in that throne? I don't think so.
I don't think Eto wants to stop the killing between ghouls and human, she wants to stop the oppression of ghouls and restore the primal status of human and ghouls. As she says, factory reset it, destroy CCG, kill the V. Doing so will make human fight ghouls harder.
Maybe I am wrong but this is how I see the situation, not in the rainbow light.
But on another note, this chapter was named "White rainbow" and it only happens when a rainbow is reflected by the moon, not the sun. It is an illusion, similar to Kaneki's positiveness and goodness of inheriting OEK title, a false delusion.
We are being tricked by Kaneki's narrative but Ishida has signaled that Tokyo Ghoul has entered Moon phase, not the positive Star phase as we have already passed it.
I'm loving it already because I have an autistically good memory for fiction but it still annoys me. Now I want to read more about Arima but all I'll get is breadcrumb flashbacks. We didn't even see Fura's reaction.
I'm no expert either but he's very good at character building and almost looks like he knows what he's doing with storytelling. The thing is, Ishida creates all these characters and gives them a proper story but willingly chooses to not show half of it and only focuses on unnecessary boring shit.
>I don't think Eto wants to stop the killing between ghouls and human, she wants to stop the oppression of ghouls and restore the primal status of human and ghouls. As she says, factory reset it, destroy CCG, kill the V. Doing so will make human fight ghouls harder.
Pretty much, hoping Kaneki isn't crazy enough to get rid of the CCG so ghouls can torture and kill without the hassle of someone fighting back.
Arima "founded" the Aogiri tree the same way Yoshimura did. It's because they both helped Eto and she was the one calling the shots. Arima wasn't the one leading it and most likely didn't approve of some of things they did or how they did it, the same way Kaneki doesn't approve of most of the things Eto does. It doesn't change the fact that Eto got results.
My biggest nag about TG is the number of named CCG investigators. Is it even necessary?
I have to google an investigator's name every other chapter for someone who was apparently showed a for a few pages, a few chaptera back.
Wouldn't be a problem with you and your memory tho.
>A reason? It's because i want to take this F*ed up piece of S world and F it up some more and give it a factory reset
It's your own fault for having such a fucked up short-term memory.
Well, she was actively looking for that one guy that could kill Arima. By accident or not, she found him and it was because of her violent gang that he turned into a monster capable of it. It's ironic though. That only happened thanks to Arima's own mistake back in the Jack case. If he didn't let Jason escape, Kaneki would never be tortured.
Back to Eto, she was also the one that managed to get the real story out there. She opened the eyes of many ghouls and also humans such as Marude. Eto was a villain and did unforgivable bad things all of her life but there's no denying that with the book at least she accomplished something. She plotted everything. She turned herself into a successful writer so that one day everyone would read the story that mattered the most thanks to her popularity.