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One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my.....
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>>144586970
It's Yuma because he sucks at card games!
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Still catching on to the most recent episode.

Didn't expect Yuya's dad to appear this early.
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>Dennis regrets betraying the Lancers
>hides his tears
>commits sudoku
Please no, I wasn't ready for this.
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>>144586970
Holy Shit Shinji is such a faggot
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>The top three guys are cooler than the bottom two.

What went wrong?
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>>144586970
Whats up with Yami's pose.
He has that sassy chick hip pose going on.
Also for what is this poster for?
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>>144587161
BBT sequal.
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>>144587141
This show started appearing to kids by making the main characters little kids
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Episode 116: 太陽と月の守護者 - Taiyou to Tsuki no Shugosha
(Guardians of the Sun and Moon)
As Yugo rushes toward one of Academia’s towers to rescue Rin, he runs into the "Keeper of the Eastern Tower.” At the same time, the "Keeper of the Western Tower" faces off against Kaito, who is trying to rescue Ruri.

Summary:
Yugo learns that Rin is being held captive in one of Academia's towers, and rushes over there to rescue her. Standing in his way is the "Keeper of the Eastern Tower". At the same time, the "Keeper of the Western Tower" faces off against Kaito, who is trying to rescue Ruri. Can the two of them rescue Rin and Ruri!?

Cast:
Sakaki Yuya
Yuto
Yugo
Hiiragi Yuzu/Serena
Kurosaki Ruri
Rin
Gongenzaka Noboru
Shiun’in Sora
Kaito
Tenjoin Asuka
Sakaki Yusho
Narrator
Akaba Leo
Apollo
Diana
Extras

Script: 前川 淳 || Maekawa Atsushi
Direction: 児谷直樹 || Kotani Naoki
Storyboard: 児谷直樹 || Kotani Naoki
Animation Director(s): 蛯名秀和|| EBINA Hidekazu
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>>144586970
>Road of duelist
Wait what is happening at Akiba on the 13th-17th August?
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>>144587339
Exhibition, from DM timeline to Arc-V.
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>>144587374
Ohhhhh sweet, I will definitely check it out when im over there
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Does Rin crave the banana?
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i believe only one of them had the privilege of fighting the king
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>>144583754
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>No Reiji

Well I guess we know who's not staying relevant any time soon
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Sora will be the mysterious voice, he'll reveal in a flashback which will include the other lancers how he got from synchro to here.
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fuck happened to this kid man
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>>144587565
Gotta dedicate more screentime to Kaito.
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i am still butthurted that Jonuichi lost to Marik that one time
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>>144587678
if marik wasnt a cheap shit and had to make it a pain game jou would have won, canon the better card game player
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>>144586970
I just noticed that Yuya is probably stonger than every other protagonist due to him knowing all the summoning methods.
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>>144587644

He just needed some fine pussy to tap
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>>144587327

Who the fuck are Apollo and Diana?
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>>144587644
his series got better
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>>144587761
didn't she spend all her time fucking kaiser
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>>144587827

Kaiser was a fucking pussy which made her didn't give a shit and crave getting railed by a homosexual instead
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>>144586608
I honestly think that monster would look half decent in theory.
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>>144587327
>Ebina
Hell yeah
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>>144587513
I hope Reiji gets punched by the end. It would make up for a lot of shit the show has done.
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>>144587284
Judai and Yuya are the same age, or were anyway
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>>144585375
Not bad
>>144586608
HA
>>144587513
I feel bad for Reiji, does he ever catch a break?
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>>144587762
probably tower guardians
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>>144588121
>I feel bad for Reiji, does he ever catch a break?
poor sap needs an on-screen holiday at the very least. an on-screen,plot-relevant holiday. to the fusion dimension. maybe say hi to dad.
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>>144587327
Fucking amazing. We are gonna enjoy two duels, Yugo and Kaito and Rin and Ruri talking with Ebina animation. You can't literally ask for more
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>>144588251
I hope this is a joke.
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>>144584835
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>>144588251
>can't ask for more
Kaito dying on the moon tower and Shun dueling Ruri and saving her instead.
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>>144587644
a little bit of edge but wholesome lot of manliness.
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Oh dang drawfag is back?

If it's not too late can I request a very obviously evil Selena luring Yuzu into one of those "cardboard box held up by stick" traps?

What she uses as bait is up to you
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>>144588398
HAHA
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>>144587644
He merged with a Yandere duel monster spirit and traveled the cosmos to kill the light of destruction.

>>144587761
Judai is gay Anon.
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>>144588432
>Shun dueling Ruri and saving her instead
Fuck that Gary Stu
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>>144587678
Marik wasn't even taking that duel seriously for most of the duel which makes it even more salt inducing.
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>>144588251
>Rin
Literally a nobody
>Kaito
Oh yeah Ruri's 'brother'
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>>144588617
That was the point of his character. And you have no idea what gary stu means.
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>>144588251
You're kidding right? Yugo vs Rin is going to be boring as fuck, since we don't know shit about her. Don't get me started on fucking Kaito vs Ruri.
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>>144588617
Kaito is more of a stu, it isn't even his show.
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New art from based Kaz.
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>>144588856
Yeah but he is a Legacy character so i can forgive that
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>>144589012
Are they playing Yugioh Duel Links?
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>>144589113
They are playing Pokemon go bakura and ash share the same voice actor in Japan
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>>144589113
Pokemon Go.
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>>144586970
yugi cuz the only kog
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>>144589012
>they're all playing Pokemon go
God damn it Kaz not you too
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>>144589012
>this art
Kaz strikes again.
So when do we get real life duel disks
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>>144589012
I was going to ask how did they get future tech but then I realize they used Duel Disks with life like holographic technology that is close to being hard light. A smart phone is nothing compared to the tech created in the 90's in the Yu-Gi-Oh world.
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>>144589186
>pokemon
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>>144589012
>dat Marik
>implying Atem won't pull off evolutions in the middle of a battle right out of his ass
FUND THIS
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>>144586970
Holy shit Yugi looked pretty retarded but it was badass at the same time.

I can't for any reason find anything badass about this midget in the left, what the fuck is wrong with his design it looks like absolute shit.
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>>144589411
>Yugi

That's Atem retard.
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>>144589012
The girls literally don't care
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>>144589411
Blame Kaz. He was probably drunk when he design him
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>>144589499
more like they were left behind
pokemon is the new ride
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>>144588761
Fuck im hype for it
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>>144589498
Atem was a nig.
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>>144589578
>when you sell your foodstamps for hair extensions and card games
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>>144589541
Kaz didn't design any of the Arc-V characters. It was the same artist who did the Zexal Manga.
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>>144587327
I think they will make some situation for Shun save the day.
I hope.
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>>144589012
>that Bakura, Rishid, Malik, Mai and Ishizu
Why weren't these people in Dark Side of Dimensions?
They'd look amazing in the new animation combined with Kaz's art.
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So will we ever get VIZ scans for the rest of the manga?

Only the first 7 volumes.
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>>144589749
They better.
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>>144587084
>this early
we're in the final arc.
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>>144587327
Great, now all we need left is Yuri, then we have all the counterparts in the house.
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>>144589839
Left from the pic.

That guy looks cool compared to the other midget
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>mfw there are still people who insist pendulums ruined the game
>when flip effects were made relevant for the first time
>when fusions were made relevant again
>when synchros were made relevant again
>when rituals were made relevant again
>when tribute summoning was made relevant again
>when normal monsters are relevant again
>and now fucking UNIONS were made relevant for the first time
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>>144589411
Yeah, the tomato sucks. I wonder who in their right mind would design and write that character.
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>>144589934
>Mfw DMfags
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>>144589800
Oh well..
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>>144586970
Based Kagami
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Yuu's bonding/dating with their respective Ruri's when?
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>>144589659
I was talking about Yuma not Tuya
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>>144590136
Never.
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>>144587327
>Sora in cast
>No Crow, Reira, Reiji, or Tsukikage
You know what this means? This means that only Sora is returning and the others are just in 115's cast because they appear in flashbacks.
>No Sawatari
What's up with that? Unless Reiji, etc. actually do appear and Sawatari goes with them
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>>144575320
>Reform with No Wasted Draws but with Yu-Gi-Oh instead of Mahjong
fund it
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>>144589775
Bakura was in the movie. Having the other characters in there would be pointless since their stories already finished.
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>>144590247
>Serena cards Sawatari
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>>144590290
Based Serena.
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>>144590290
>carding NEO NEW
He's gonna use that Extra Deck and defeat her
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>>144590290
>Sawatari dies to Serena in Ebina animation
YES
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>>144590136
>Yuya and Yuzu are entertainers that like to get a lot of sun to tone their fit bodies
>Yugo and Rin are adventurers
>Yuto and Ruri are your average Japanese couple that do traditional Japanese things
>Yuri and Serena are like college roommates

Fund it.
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>>144588398

Beautiful
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>>144590290
>Sawatari not getting to lose to Yuri before getting carded

Sawatari dies to Yuri, Yugo then dies to Starve Venom upgrade, Yuri then dies to Fusion Pendulum
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>>144590464
You and me are nigs now
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>>144590464
>Yuya/Yuzu are a beach couple
>Yugo/Rin are a adrenaline couple
>Yuto/Ruri are a jap couple
>Yuri/Serena are friends that regularly fuck

Perfect
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Man, victory feels so empty when it is not how you wanted it...

I just wanted for Dennisfags to recognize that Dennis was way worse than Sora as a character and as a person, but I honestly didn't want him to commit seppuku.

I even tried to rationalize to my inner raging Sorafag by saying that Dennis was a coward but not even that convinces me that that was completely unfair of the writers.

Fuck this show.
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>>144591652
Be grateful your character is getting screen time again.
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>>144592144
I know but I'm still in shock... My face is like Reira's right now to fully diggest that best boy is back...
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>>144586970
How do the different series' anime and manga compare? Are the original's anime adaptations decent? How about the spin-off's manga adaptations? Any reason to take in both for any of them (besides the skipped chapters from DM).
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So, who exactly is coming back to the plot? I forgot once I got past the "ZOMG SORA" hype.
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>>144592909
It's just sora, we all knew.
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>>144592981
Ah, OK. Thanks.

Since Sora is the only one coming back, I hope that they use him wisely.

Since as I mentioned before, I did want for the other Lancers to come back, I wasn't kidding about that.
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>>144593150
>I hope they use him wisely

Anon, I....
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>>144593217
If Yuzu gets brainwashed he's probably going to end up dueling her with Yuzu BTFO'ing Sora to make seem threatening. Then cues Yuya vs Yuzu.
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>>144591652
I found dennis carding himself hilarious and something that made a mediocre episode a 10/10 one

And you just know hell be uncarded for the happy end
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>>144587141
Are they? From a mature standpoint, they really don't look all that 'cool'. Just edgy.
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>>144593217
The writers, anon, the writers. After the fiasco with Dennis, I can only hope that Sora gets better treatment.
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>>144593279
I found it disappointing. And why he did not duel Shun or Yuya?

Demoting Shun was a mistake (Yes, I did say that).
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>>144593286
>holds cards close to them because they don't let people in
Anons it's worse than we thought
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>>144593321
I will agree with you on the shun getting sidelined. I miss imoutoman
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>>144593431
i-ITS JUST LIKE ME
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>>144593431
>meanwhile, Yuma and Yuya are brimming with confidence and joy
I like their kind better.
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>>144589012
Funny how Bakura's Va's the same as Satoshi.
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>Accel World movie came out today
>Already leaked thanks to Chinese
>Meanwhile DSOD has been out for 3 months
>Only 15 minutes out of 130 leaked
>No more in sight

This fucking sucks.
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>>144593506
You just like fuccbois
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>>144587327
>tfw Sawatari gets drafted back to Synchro over Sora because Reiji wanted to fuck with him for his sheer uselessness.
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>>144593560
>Judai isn't a fuccboi
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>>144593286
What? None of them look edgy. Do you even know what edgy is?
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>>144593607
Nope, he used to be one but now he has edgy looks (he can be cute with his attitude tho).
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>>144587201
Is this for real?
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>>144593536
Fuck DSOD, I want the detective Conan movie.
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>>144593691
They're the epitome of edgy. Especially Yusei.
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>>144593703
Have you not heard about it? Kaz has been promoting the shit out of it fr a few months.
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>>144593782
I legit havent been keeping up with the series since zexal.
Im a relic
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>>144593703
Kizuna through Jigens
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>>144593703
No, it's just a poster for a Yugioh event in Japan.
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>>144593703
No.
It's just another 20th anniversary promo.
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>>144593321
>>144593446
To me, I believe the whole Shun issue would have been a lot better if they’d switch it with Kaito, have him tag with Yuya against the sisters overall his rage almost becomes his major downfall(like they did with Zexal and a major reference) until Yuya’s tries convincing him that what’s doing won’t help anybody. Even then after they would win Kaito would try to card them but then realizes it truly won’t accomplish anything then later have him risk himself to protect Shun and the other resistance. Overall, things would have been better in said area but I get that they’re also trying to reference Kaito’s apparent Gary Stu like action with him being in Zexal as unbeatable but it kinda messes the things Arc-V’s trying to do. Sure at first Shun seemed a bit of both Crow and Kaito but more balanced. All I’m hoping for would indeed be if Ruri(brainwashed or not beat him which very unlikely) or Shun appears later.
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>>144593758
HE CANT HELP IT. HE WAS DRAWN THAT WAY
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>>144593913
Stop criticizing Yuma then. He... he was drawn retarded.
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>>144593868
The worst part is that Kaito doesn't FEEL like Kaito. He feels like a rehash of Shun.

Kaito is Dennis 2: Raidpator Bugaloo.
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>>144589908
>that panda

I had completely forgotten about those commercials until now.
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>>144594021
>Kaito is introduced
>goes through Shun's entire character arc in the span of 12 episodes
>is now tasked to save Ruri in his place
Is this what they call suffering?
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>>144593758
Yusei may look edgy but he himself isn't edgy. He's a kizunabot and the second coming of Jesus. Well he's more of a anime depiction of Moses but he's pretty much a prophet of the Crimson Dragon.
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>>144594080
This is what is called not being original and replacing fine characters.

I think Tvtropes calls it "Replacement Scrappy".
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>>144594145
Judai IS edgy though.
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>>144594021
This. A Kaito that doesn't toss swords and spears or shout HARUTO isn't Kaito.
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>>144593953
Yuma is retarded but a good boy. I like him for that reason.

He is way better than Yusei at any rate.
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>>144586970
I want the inevitable next series to have chara designs done once again by Hara Kenichi.
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>>144591652
>I just wanted for Dennisfags to recognize that Dennis was way worse than Sora as a character and as a person, but I honestly didn't want him to commit seppuku.
>I even tried to rationalize to my inner raging Sorafag by saying that Dennis was a coward but not even that convinces me that that was completely unfair of the writers.

Dennis was the sole-person that green-lit the whole genocide without giving a single damn about what he did and he mocked Shun in front of him during the duel he was found out, not only responsible for Ruri’s kidnapping, and as he said betrayed Yuya and Shun(who knew/speculated he was spy).

From Yushuo’s perspective it seemed like while Dennis did do messed up things he was still a student and tried his responsibilities as a teacher to help him out while trying to convince Dennis to leave Academia to try redeeming himself. Instead we get suicide via carding.

Dennis' "death" was his own easy way out of trying to make any sort of real redemption for himself. Say what people will about the Xyz arc rushness and Synchro arc's controversial pacing but I believe it’s message back try redeeming themselves by helping out the remaining survivors through and through rather they be forgiven or not. It also worked with Sora(even if it wasn't that great) he openly betrays Academia mostly for his relationship with Yuzu and Yuya while trying to make amends what he did to Tsukikage's brother.
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>>144594145
He can actually be pretty cute
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>>144594353
I know he did bad but suicide is the coward's way out. If you want to make up your actions, JUST FUCKING MAKE UP. Don't run away from your problems.
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>>144594171
Judai is can't be edgy he doesn't even know what edgy even means. Judai just goes about life at his own pace.
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>>144593953
No Yuma is a good hearted dumbass.
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>>144594505
Judai just looks edgy.
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>>144594316
Yuma is nowhere near better than Yusei. Yusei has more development than Yuma and his development stalled much later than Yuma who was just a brash idiot that couldn't do shit until a shinny blue alien came along and taught him how to get gud.
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>>144593758
Its not even him committing suicide. It's the fact that we hardly knew him as a character and what he was feeling inside that makes the suicide feel less impactful.
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>>144594571
Because it's season 4 Judai who had his waifu's tastes imposed on him.
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>>144594490
Dennis seemed to be under the impression that he couldnt go back to yuua and shun He probably knew theyd forgive him but he probably wouldnt have been able to forgive himself for betraying them

Maybe
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>>144594603
Meant for >>144594490
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>>144594560
This.
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>>144594602
What the fuck are you saying, nigger? Yusei has literally zero development over the course of 5D's. Take off your nostalgia goggles and notice how Yuma went from being an idiotic kid to a capable duelist while Yusei remained the same all the way until the end.
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>>144594602
Yusei doesn't develop at all.
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>>144594668
>this fucking scene
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>>144594751
This scene is the proof of Yuma's forgiveness, shut up!
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>>144594858
I think he was agreeing with you.
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>>144594858
That's why I'm crying. It was so touching.
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>>144594751
Sorry, didn't watch the gif. Thought you were insulting.
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>>144594900
I know, just noticed.
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>>144590136
Would Shun approve the fact that his bestie is dating the imouto of his?
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>>144594684
>>144594708
Yusei's development is subtle but he did become a bit more relaxed and expressive as Yusei can get. Yuma started out as an idiotic kid and remained one until the very end.
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6776849
Post MADs
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>>144594903
>That's why I'm crying. It was so touching.
This sounds like something that would be posted on tumblr. L-like I would know or anything...
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>>144594668
I want to be the purpose that's mean but to me it didn't really feel as much as Vector actual pitting Yuma's forgiveness or finally realizing how completely naive he is. It also doesn't help that the episode previous to it he flat out played all of them except Nasch(who knew the whole damn time he was faking it and was already passed the point of ever giving him any chances). They're all their own person I get that, but there are also limits to how much you can easily forgive a person that messed up your life or tried to mess up your life in many ways.
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>"Yuya"
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>>144595176
Now fuck
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>>144595004
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm20555248
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Yuma has the most development out of every protagonist, followed by Judai. Then comes Yuya. Yuya did develop and much like the other protagonists his character arc revolves around dueling; he was a lousy entertainer in the beginning and the show went out of its way to show us that(he got beat up and went berserk when he tried to ENTAME against Kachidoki, he almost died when he fell on his neck after getting BTFO by Jack) and he's now a very capable entertainer. The thing is that his development just doesn't feel believable. His converting the whole Synchro Dimension to egao wasn't believable, his converting of Kaito and Edo isn't believable, etc. That doesn't necessarily mean he's a bad character like some extremists claim, but it does mean that he needs to struggle again in order to become interesting like he was 30 episodes ago.
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>>144595052
I've never been on tumblr, and I found this image on google.
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>>144595200
Why do so many people want to see them fuck? They're like 14.
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>>144595403
Because they're such a great couple.
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>>144595176

Are Yugo and Rin the first Yu and Ruri to play 'doctor'? Wouldn't surprise me if they do it regularly growing up
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I'm going to rewatch GX

should I use the viewing guide?
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>>144595874

No,just get your game on and start sailing my sea na no ne
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>>144595403
It's because their at the age where love is innocent and where it develops. The again, saying to fuck each other is way too overboard.
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>>144595298
How is Yuma the most developed when he stays the EXACT same throughout the whole show? He's still the same good hearted dumbass from episode 1 to the end. All that changed about him was his dueling skills.
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>>144595874
>going back to the things were
>impossible
Not with the Numeron Code it isn't. And you get to keep your Barian friends too.
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>>144595874
>tfw no scene in Arc-V has surpassed Yuma vs Nasch

Zexal may have been a mess but it did some things right
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>>144596357
>nothing surpassed theoretically the final duel of zexal

Gee, I wonder why?
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>>144587327
Omg omg omg omg omg omg omg Yuya is dueling again!!!! I am soooo happy!!!! It's been a long time! Can't wait for more entermates!!!!!
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same anon from earlier.

never watched the subs outside season 4

goddamn, the season 1 opening is catchy as FUCK.
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>>144596567
Mono plz
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>>144596554
lol
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>>144590410
I still wanna know what the fuck that extra deck is. Did Reiji just give him some rank 4's?
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>>144596567
Yuzu or Grace, calm yourself.
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>>144587644
He murdered his friends and cardgames got serious
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>>144589012
Where does he post his art?
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>>144596961
He has an instagram now which should show up if you just google his name
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>>144596936
Murdered would imply with his own hands.
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this card has such a big fall from grace. it's sad, really.
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something doesn't look right here.
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>>144596232
Fucking this. Yuma is the Dasuke of Yu-Gi-Oh, thaking the spotlight from other characters and allowed to develop.
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>>144597953
I wish they would acknowledge FlameWingman as the ace even though it is Judai's favorite card. It's a fusion afterall.
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wow, the shipping in gx starts fucking FAST.
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sho a cute
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>>144596232
I wouldn't argue that Yuma is the most developed (I don't see how that could be anyone but Judai), but he changed a lot from episode 1, so I don't know you're talking about. His development kind of plateau'd in Zexal II, but in Zexal I he came a long way from being a stubborn retard who was literally tsundere for Astral.
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>>144598513
He's a Yugi expy, while Judai is a mix of Atem and Joey.
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>>144598513
He's a hanger on coattail riding piece of shit.
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>>144586970
>Be King of Games
>Be the only person in the poster to not have a card
Doesn't deserve his title.
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>>144598513
Well his ass gets kicked to the curb by season 4 so have fun
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>>144598472
I love how in the end only Judai turned out to be a reincarnation but Sho ended up being the Mokuba clone of the series
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>>144598664
>kicked to the curb
>becomes a blue
>and surpasses his brother while using an absolute mess of a frankensteined deck

this isn't my first time watching GX.
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>>144598619
Except Yugi is way better and less annoying
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goddamn, she is THIRSTY right off the bat.

also, I much prefer her dub voice.
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>>144598513
He becomes shit later on.
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>>144598709
I mean as Judai's no homo
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>>144598569
He's still a stubborn retard that's tsudere for Astral. He just grew more dere for him later on than tsun.
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>>144587644
He's already half Xehanort.
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>>144598819
oh, well yeah, sho can't compete with johan.

I also preferred this guy's dub voice, even if it was borderline racist.

and why the fuck do duelists need to learn ALCHEMY?
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>>144598873
No pointed ears or golden eyes Anon. He hasn't been Norted just yet.
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>>144587678
Marik was shit at the game. Even Mai would have beaten him if Ra didn't have bullshit chants you needed in order to use it for some reason.
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>>144598886
Alchemy is the power of Fusion, duh.
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>>144598940
chemistry, maybe.
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>>144598863
Not really. Yuma may be dumb in some ways, but he doesn't do stupid shit like disregard perfectly good advice because he doesn't want help.
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>>144598909
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>>144598924
This. Even Token Female Lady Woman would've won if he wasn't an even worse cheat than Atem
>I fuse my slime and metal token
fuck you
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>>144598819
>Judai
>homo
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>>144589908
Spirits/Gemini meta when?
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>>144599000
Still no pointed ears so he's not another Xehanort.
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>>144598767
>I much prefer her dub voice.
>>144598886
>I also preferred this guy's dub voice
Fuck off.
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>>144587678
>>144598924
The Jounouchi one made me especially mad because Marik straight up lost the game, Jounouchi just passed out because of magic bullshit.

It's like if someone took a gun to a card game, shot their opponent, and then everyone else went, "OH, WELL, I GUESS YOU WIN!"
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>>144598997
True but I just don't like Yuma's character.
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>>144599019
Silly anon I said no homo
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>>144587644
He killed his friends, fused his soul with a herm spirit and was death for a day.

Also Johan (this mostly)
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>>144599129
I don't either but I still find him less annoying than Yuya.
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>>144599127
the dub was shit, doesn't make some of the voices good.
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>>144599019
>using the only instance in 180 episodes that you could even stretch to use as evidence that Judai cares about girls

Uh huh.
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>>144587827
Kaiser was the fuckboy of Fujiwara and maybe fubuki
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>>144599153
Everyone's eyes looks so shit in that picture
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>>144599178
No, it doesn't.
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>>144599129
That's fine, but it doesn't make him undeveloped, which was the original point of argument.
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>>144598569
How did he change though? He just went through some struggles when Astral left him but other than that there's nothing else to his character. He's literally the same person he was at the start.
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>>144599164
How? I like Yuya more as a character than Yuma in that he actually evolves as a character and finds his own entamate duel.
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>>144599229
He's still under developed in my eyes. I expected him to grow and evolve but he remained the same from start to finish.
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>>144598513
Sho is a backstabbing piece of shit who got pissed when someone who was actually supportive and useful say that he was the better friend, left his friend when he needed him the most, let his brother die and then steal his deck, and has a shit archetype that never went anywhere.
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>>144599359
underdeveloped != un developed.
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>>144599220
Yugi looks decent. Also I like the fact SM is his ace monster on the pic
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is yuma and yuya any different at all
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>>144599276
You didn't watch Zexal very closely if you think that. In the beginning, he was stubborn to a rotten degree and disregarded other people and their help because he wanted to do everything on his own. He even went back on his word when he was dueling Shark because he was selfish and just wanted to win. As the show goes on, he learns to use his head and cooperate with people.

I actually am one of the few people who liked him better at the start because at least he was flawed and interesting. But he definitely changed.

>>144599292
>finds his own entamate duel

He's still just parroting his dad's ideals.
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>>144599458
Yuya looks good. Yuma doesn't.
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>>144599468
>Parroting his dad's ideals

Not really, his duel with Kachidoki Tyler sister had no mention of Egao or his dad whatsoever, it was him showing his entame to the sisters and Kachidoki. The only time he's parroted about the ideal in duel was against Edo.
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>>144599598
It doesn't matter if he's saying "egao" or his dad explicitly. At the end of the day, the idea and what he's trying to do are completely the same.
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Can we at least agree that Yusei is the least developed main character?
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>>144599659
Exactly, but his entame style of dueling is different to his father.
>Also completely the same
There are many other characters that believe in this as well. It isn't only a father/son deal.
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>>144599765
Yes. Yusei a shit.
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>>144599765
Yes. He has no depth whatsoever.
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>>144599792
>Exactly, but his entame style of dueling is different to his father.
How?
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>>144599792
The point is that his personality and ideals never changed. It's dumb to say he evolved as a character because he plays his cards a little differently.

It's even worse because we spent an entire arc with Yuya beating himself up over this shit, but basically ended up back in the same spot anyway.
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>>144599807
He's not even a shit, he's just there to duel and be Jesus. The only one he could relate to in the cast was Bruno, and that was because he was the closest thing you can have to a living motorcycle.
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>>144599833
Yuya engages the audience with his catchphrase and surreal comebacks.
>Inb4 mug action cards though
While Yusho puts on a display to engage the Audience.
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>>144599885
He's evolved as a character in the sense that he's much better at what he does than he was before.
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>>144599935
All Yuya does is run around grabbing action cards which is boring as fuck.
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This is a semen demon
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>>144599458
Yuya is a fuckboi, Yuma isnt.
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>>144599942
That's not really character development.

And anyway, the only reason he's better as what he does is because the writers decided it's time for everyone and their mom to suck his dick. He's hardly doing anything different.
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>>144600060
Yes, that's character development. Please tell me when your definition of "development" makes it in a dictionary.
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>>144600121
You literally admitted that his personality and world view have not changed in the slightest.
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>>144599468
Ok but that still doesn't make him the most developed character. That's just one aspect of him and it's pretty small compared to what other characters have gone through.
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>>144600019
Please kill Kaito.
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>>144600210
KILL THE XYZ MANLET!!!
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>>144600179
So? I'm not the guy you were debating with a few minutes ago. I literally don't care about that.
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Shun x Ruri OTP
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>>144600200
You haven't been following my posts. I never once said he was most developed. I don't even like Yuma.

But it's just plain wrong to say he didn't change. He sure as hell is more developed than Yuya, too.
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We GX now?
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>>144600373
If only.
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>>144600286
who's shun

did you mean kaito
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>>144600373
Once Kaito get killed by Ruri. Or Rin. Or Yuri. Or Shun. Or Sayaka. Or Yuto. I'd even take Asuka killing him.
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how until the yearly Sawatari great duel and defeat?
I hope be against Serena or for Serena's sake
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>Sora listed
>Sawatari isn't

What happen to Yuya's group?
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>>144600652
It's also strange when you realise Yuya, Yuzu, Serena and Gon are voiced as well.
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>>144600474
Hail fusion
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Guys the reason why Sawatari isn't voiced in 116 is because the nigga is unconscious. Remember he was talking smack to solo in the preview? Solo probably BTFO'd him in a duel.
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>>144600715
>all of Shingo's cards have finally been printed
>he's been in nearly every shot with Gon for a while now
>Gon is listed without him, and they're in close quarters to it isn't just distance
Sawatari is going to die, isn't he?
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>>144594668
Does anyone have a webm or something of this scene? I need it.
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>>144601319
If he gets carded that means he didn't even get a full episode dedicated to it. It would be a joke
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>>144601497
To jack off to?

Perv
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>>144601616
No, to shead manly tears over.
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>>144601615
>it would be a joke
Fits his character perfectly.
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>>144601616
People don't jack off to characters who aren't Bakura.
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>>144601812
>jerking off to poor Bakura
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>>144601746
Well, you're not wrong
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>>144594634
>aqua dolphin covering neos

Fuck, I laughed
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>>144600179
Of course his personality and ideals arn't going to change as he strongly believed in making everyone smile though dueling. Jack had to spell it out to Yuya that he needed to duel his way to entertain and make people smile though dueling. There are many characters who have been inspired by this message and Yuya has influenced alot of people to find their own entame and now it was his turn and he did. Yuya evolved though his journey to not rely on the words of other but his own. It is okay he was inspired by his deadbeat dad but he did have to find his own voice in the matter.
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>>144602336
The thing is is that Yuya isn't doing anything different now, it's just magically working for no real reason.
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>>144602464
It might not be believable right now, but that's how it is. Yuya did develop.
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>>144602484
Nah, he just got a brainwashing card from ciggy dad
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>>144602556
>still saying that after getting BTFO by >>144602336
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>>144602336
>Yuya evolved though his journey to not rely on the words of other but his own.

But he still relies on his dad's words and the card that is the catalyst for those words.
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>>144602712
And?
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>>144602336
>>144602484
>>144602608
Dude, that's not development. It's just the writers being lazy and suddenly making everyone fall at Yuya's feet when the actual character did nothing to earn it.

Also, there was good reason for his ideals to be adjusted a bit, because "I'm going to go into a war zone and tell people who lost their homes and families that they need to SMILE HARDER" is downright disrespectful. But ARC-V is running with it, it seems.
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>>144596554
To be honest almost nothing in Arc-V has surpassed anything in any of its predecessors, with the exception of character design. And that's just from a purely aesthetic standpoint. Outside of doing a few things differently, it's a pretty bland Yu-Gi-Oh! It hasn't been even remotely as emotionally charging as its predecessors since Reiji vs Yuya 2.
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>>144602800
>when the actual character did nothing to earn it.
Did you watch Synchro? His ideals were trampled on by literally everyone, but he still fought on to make people accept them and he ended up beating Jack.
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>>144602797
Which means that point is dead and a lie. Yuya didn't develop much. Everyone else in the show just became retarded.
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>>144602882
>Yuya and Yuzu are the emotional core of the series with Reiji being the stoic rational counterpart
>HAHAHAH LET'S SEPERATE THEM IN HOTEL ROOMS
>HAHAHA LET"S WRITE REIJI OUT OF THE SHOW
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>>144602800
This. I wish Yuya actually talked to and spoke with people when he was doing this egao shit. It feels more like he's talking at people than anything resembling a genuine conversation. It's especially jarring because Jack just said last arc, Duels are like conversations.
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>>144602907
He did nothing to make people accept his ideals. He just won duels. He didn't change their worldview through hard work, hitting the pavement to see why they act the way they do and trying to understand their situation. He just kept pushing forward because he felt he was right and ended up fixing a class problem with one duel. He didn't even interact with people too often either because he was locked up most of the arc.
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>>144602907
>His ideals were trampled on by literally everyone, but he still fought on to make people accept them and he ended up beating Jack.

But there is absolutely no reason WHY people should suddenly accept them. He didn't start doing anything better or change his methods or ideals.
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>>144602933
The way they handle Reiji really is a crime. I get that he's the leader so he can't just act rashly and has to behave differently from Yuya for the sake of the Lancers and everything they're trying to accomplish. But I still wish a greater amount of focus was put on him and his activities and the duality between him and Yuya. They have, or had, a really good dynamic going and it sucks we aren't going to get to see more of it. Reiji versus Yuya round 2 honestly felt like just the beginning of an in depth exploration of the two.
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>>144602464
His magical entame dueling is working now because the writers had to stupidify the villains from genocidal soldiers into mentally ill and easily amused children. Yuya didn't develop in the slightest.
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>>144603009
>>144603057
In Synchro it makes sense, because he's the King and Synchro's will is something that bends to the Kings. His ideology defines Synchro's ideology by extension. That's just how their fucked up society works.

However it doesn't make sense in Xyz or Fusion.
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Yuya stuck in egao mode. Yuzu lost any potencial development she could of had and is now just another Kotori. Sora went from psycho to nice again to jobber all off screen, Shun's entire character was sidelined in favor of a legacy character, Gon, Sawatari and Reji's development was killed in favor of bad writing, hotel rooms, legacy character shilling from Kaito and Crow, everybody in academia are extremely terrible even when they gang up on people

Arc-V after Standard wasn't a mistake it was a goddamn wreck. I can only imagine the next series being even worse.
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>>144603165
No no no no no. That's stupid and opens up another whole mess of problems. The people of Synchro should hate the king system since Jack did nothing to help the commons. There is no reason for them to like him. If the king has as much influence as you say he does then people should have been trying to attack Jack for not helping them and instead sitting on his ass all day and night.
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>>144603165
>because he's the King and Synchro's will is something that bends to the Kings
But what about that whole part showing how a lot of the Commons thought little of Jack and getting into arguments with his fans because he's done little to help the City? Although that major disagreement within the crowd came up like 2 times and conveniently went away.
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>>144603009
Bitch this is YGO. Winning card games IS "hard work".

Sure, he sorta lucked into it, but still. Card games are the be-all-end-all. Don't let the fact that a few people decided to ignore card games fool you.
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>>144603347
>I can only imagine the next series being even worse.

Depends on who writes it.

I hope they don't ask Ono and Kamishiro back after this. I'd even rather have Yoshida at this point.
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>>144603356
He's referring to the anyone that is the King, in this case Yuya.
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>>144602464
>magically working for no real reason.
Nigga is trying to stop an interdimensional war from hitting his door steps. He's working for a reason and that is trying to stop the senseless violence. Yuya maybe just a kid but he's doing shit most adults would never try and that is find a peaceful outcome than more bloodshed.
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>>144603415
But anon, in other YGOs, it's never been "just" the card games that convert someone. Duels are duels, but they usually also involve conversation and interaction and a clash of view points. Yuya never has meaningful interactions with anyone.
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>>144603446
Exactly. And this pisses edgelords off.
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>>144603098
Those two literally haven't conversed in over 40 episodes. Since there's 20+ episodes left along with the writing staff giving up, their rivalry is utterly nonexistent. Every other series had the two rivals talk at least once every arc as well.
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>>144603532
That's because Arc-V suck at interactions. They want the viewers to imply on the situation that's taking place rather than showing it.
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>>144603440
Yuya wasn't even king when people started sucking his dick and that doesn't wash away everything about Jack. Yuya didn't even give a speech or anything. He left before even talking to the people of Synchro so there is no reason for them to be so gaga over him. It's poor writing.
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>>144603415
The problem is how the stakes are tacked onto the duels. When it's a good guy vs a bad guy (like a duel against a Barian or Dark Signer), and if the good guy wins, then the root of the problem is being remedied directly.

The City's problems as they were presented were clearly not in just 1-2 people's hands. But they were tacked onto whether or not Jack won the duel as if they were.
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>>144601864
>even Bakura has more screen time than Reiji
What the hell is he doing? Bakura had small relevance in the first 2 seasons but season 5 is where he got good.
We're at the last arc and still so sign of Reiji anywhere
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Where were you when Reiji got Misawa'd?
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>>144603415
It's more believable when it doesn't involve real world implications. Arc-V deciding to take a real world issue with no mystical implications and straight up solve it with card games is terrible.
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>>144603446
>>144603560
It's not about being edgy, you retards. Going "stop being mean to each other and just smile!" when there's a fucking war going on is absolutely shallow, unrealistic, and shows that no thought has actually been put into solving the problem.
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>>144603576
Following onto this, it's the reason why most scenes don't seem convincing. An example that is upcoming to this is Yugo vs Rin. We only know Rin from flashbacks and at a minimal amount of flashbacks, which makes the tension and effectiveness of the reunion/duel boring.
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>>144603446
Except the stuff he does has absolutely no reason to work.
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>>144603446
Here's the thing, Yuya's actions are just beating people at card games and them suddenly agreeing to be good. Synchro had no reason to give a damn about Yuya defeating Jack expect the possiblity of seeing the once proud king be humliated like many of the other commons. It was fucking class warefare with a city wide riot, they beat a cyborg to death during said riot and clearly didn't care if they killed the tops kids as well, in fact, they were itching to in their own words "drag the tops down to hell" You don't calm emotions like that down just because some outsider put on a good show. You remind the "king" about the rules of this place and torment him and either throw the outsider out as a "thank you" for him allowing you to get your revenge or you subject him to the same treatment since he's not a topsie or a commons so nobody would really give a shit who guts him

then there's Xyz, these fuckers carded babies, old men who couldn't defend themselves, left families broken, surviavors desperate, straving and PTSD'd, destoryed the place and took massive pleasure in it. For a new world? If anything that was for a world for them and them alone, you don't call people you're trying to save fucking prey like those academia students did. Then Yuya shows up and suddenly because he bested their commander it's all good now?

There's only so much bullshit a kids show should be allowed to get away with and this is it. Fusion is even worse, these people know they have to capture and card these lancers and they not only stop after Yuya beats NPC=kun they fucking watch as they leave and give no shits.

Dennis suddenly caring about Shun or Yuya in what they think of him is yet more off screen "I'm a good guy now" development, Those feelings are hollow as shit when he did nothing but taunt Shun during their second duel and laugh at chaos giant tearing up the place. If they really wanted us to believe Dennis was at all conflicted they failed.
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>>144603446
He's not trying to find a peaceful outcome. He's just telling people to stop fighting in the most juvenile way possible and it works. You know why most adults wouldn't do that? Because it's retarded and if someone is aiming weapons at you they have some type of reason. I'm sure the US has asked ISIS to stop multiple times. But that doesn't work because they are set in their ideals.
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>>144603434
Kamishiro's proven they're a good writer when they want to be. I'm willing to bet that most of this is either Konami leaning in or Ono being a massive 5Dsfag. Could be combination of either.
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>>144603446
To move on, resolve, and forgive is of course a good message.

But the way it's done in Arc-V is frankly a bit cynical, or not genuine. When Yuya helped Chojiro to ENJOY himself again and work out of a funk, that actually felt genuine. Back when Shuzo had his duel with Yuya to teach him something, that message felt genuine since you could feel that he cared as a teacher.

When egao is used so the writers don't have to put in any effort into resolving an arc, it comes across as insincere and tarnishes whatever they're trying to accomplish. These people are adults who have had extensive experience as writers in the industry, so there is no way they aren't at least somewhat aware of how they're using egao to excuse themselves from having to try, or using it to haphazardly tie things up after writing themselves into a corner.
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>>144603749
But Yuya is ultimately right. Senseless bloodshed is a bad thing, and trying to stop the war as a child soldier is a noble act in itself, no matter how childish you think it is.
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>>144603916
Yes, he is right. However, the fact that the enemies mindset changes after one encounter with him is the problem. Yuya's doing what he's suppose to do but that doesn't mean the bad guys should oblige to it just like that. I blame the poor writing and execution.
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>>144603916
No, you're missing the point. People have complicated reasons for being in conflict, and simply going "Stop and be happy!" is patronizing and completely ignores the issues people are struggling with. If you want to find a peaceful solution, first you have to understand the view points of the people involved.

Instead of telling these genocidal maniacs to smile and somehow having it work, why don't we point out that Academia is indoctrinating these kids and their lives actually suck? And why aren't their any consequences for all the shit they've done to the XYZ people after they converted?
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>>144603916
It's not about Yuya being wrong or right, he's right it's about convincing the other party that he's right in a realistic manner instead of pants on the head retarded acceptance. I'd like it somebody acknolwedges that Yuya's right but for the sake of the world this has to be done but they won't do that because god forbid we have an actual conflict in this story this close to it's end. The writers are fucking lazy, this might be the laziest writing in a YGO series and I'm ashamed they went this route after such a strong start. They turned what could of been a good grey story into a completely boring black and white story. What the fuck happened after episode 52?
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>when all your Yu Gi Oh knowledge comes from watching GX back in the day
I feel so uneducated...
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>>144603916
Of course he's right. That's not the problem. The problem is how the show and the other characters handle him being right. He doesn't come from a position that has the right to tell people how to live their lives. He doesn't understand their anger and emotions. He came from a privileged background. He doesn't get why the commons are so mad or why the resistance in Xyz is so angry and blood thirsty. He can't empathize with their emotions. It's childish and handled fucking terribly.

Child soldiers trying to stop wars isn't anything new to anime btw. Uso is a child soldier done fucking right and Victory does a tremendous job of showing just how fucked up people from all sides are and how you can't just reason with everyone.
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>>144603916
>But Yuya is ultimately right. Senseless bloodshed is a bad thing.
That I can't argue with you.
Although, the problem lies from the opposition. They can't just stop doing whatever they were doing after losing once to him. They need to give Yuya hardship to defend and justify on their own goals. Even early Synchro gave Yuya more hardship about his ideals than Academia did, which is quite sad.
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Everyone it's a kids show created to promote the card game without any involvement from Kaz as he never wanted his but ultimately gave in. Of course antagonistic characters are going to convert to good. If you want a more realistic story but never dove into some social matters after the first arc then watch 5D's which is the more "adult" Yu-Gi-Oh.
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>>144604472
Being a kid's show isn't a good excuse for bad writing.
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>>144604472
Stop with this shitty excuse already.
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Where do you guys go to read the DM manga?
I'm having a hard time finding the DM era manga to read, and kissmanga has shit quality
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>>144604472
but 5ds is bad
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>>144604598
Post 64 it is.
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>>144604472
Please. I bet half the people here have already watched 5D's twice over however much you watched it, you patronizing goon. The problem is how it's executed, which has been laid out multiple times by now.

Even disregarding how villains act during and after conversion, there's been nearly fuckall when it comes to charismatic or entertaining villains with at least a little depth. The closest was Bennis, but he's tucked away in a card now.
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>>144604666
Satan confirms.
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>>144604687
>you patronizing goon
>>>/out/
>>>tumblr
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>>144604719
Tumblr owns 'goon' now? Would you prefer mong or retard?
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>>144604472
Arc-V had the potential to make antagonist characters conversion convincing, but for some reason they just made them one-off threats. Literally the only villains heel turn that was convincing at the slightest was Sora.
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>>144604472
Literally every other YGO has dealt with these types of conflicts in a less retarded fashion. Even fucking Zexal.
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>>144604799
Remember when people were actually surprised that Yuya and Yuto put their duel disks away and discussed things in a civil manner and how Yuzu simply talked since into Serena instead of dueling her to make her stop?
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>still like the show
>unable to discuss the current episodes because of the bad vibes this thread gives off
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>>144604547
>>144604799
There is clearly alot they wanted to do but time is running out and the show is to wrap up next year in March so they had to rush some things. Pretty much Synchro should have been shorter like 25 episodes or so to get to the main event that is XYZ and Fusion.
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>>144604961
Maybe the show should've tried harder to be less shit
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>>144605002
maybe you should try to be less annoying
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>>144604153
I-its a Khartoum anon relax

Everything will be daijibouti
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>>144605047
Take your own advice first, then I'll consider it
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>>144604974
It wouldn't have even mattered that Synchro was 50 episodes if character interaction had been allowed to happen. Instead of a shitty tournament, we should've had a saga that involved the Lancers actually working together.
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>>144605047
This so much
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>>144604961
ARC-Vfags had this coming after shitting on the other series constantly for the first two years of the show's run.
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>>144603601
Wasn't Bakura ass the whole time, jobbing in every way, and only Zorc Dragneel was killing everything in sight for about 12 episodes?
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>>144604961
maybe stop liking shit shows?
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>>144604961
Eh i still like it bro

I like gow yuyas grown and rhe butthurt egao causes random anons
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>>144604961
I still have hope but at a minimal amount.
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>>144605071
I would rather have Reiji there taking the lead and preparing everyone to go up against daddy.
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Looks like the "Synchro had an amazing finale!" argument is finally dead and buried.
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>>144605477
But it did
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>>144605129
>this is our revenge
don't worry faggoto, by the time ARC-V is over it'll already have surpassed your favorite show by miles
you can screencap this
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>>144605512
This thread proves otherwise.
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>>144605477
It was a lot better than XYZ to say for least.
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>>144605533
It's just going to get worse over time. There is absolutely no way this show will be good by the end by how much ground is left to cover in so little time.
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I didn't know there was a new Yu Gi Oh protagonist. Is he as disappointing as Yuma?
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>>144605543
>I-I don't find it believable so it's not good!!
It was great because of its execution.
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>>144605582
Literally worse.
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>>144605569
shhh, let it die
we'll discuss it again in a year
>>144605582
No, he's great. He tried to push his ideals for 100 episodes and got BTFO as a result, but he finally has achieved the success he deserves.
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>>144605582
It's not about being disappointing, it's how the villains suddenly agree with him after little time.
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>>144605601
This thread has people complaining about every single part of it including the execution which was the worst part.
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>>144605680
Yissssss

He is also very qt a textbook power bottom
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>>144605553
That's an understatement of the fucking century.

It's the worst arc of the entire franchise.
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>>144605713
>this thread has people whining endlessly at each other
Am I supposed to care?
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>>144605745
When you can't counter their arguments and just stick your fingers in your ears you lost the argument.
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>>144605803
But I wasn't part of the "argument", faggot.
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>>144605847
Then go read the arguments and understand why it was bad
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>>144605803
>I win the argument!
Sure is Reddit around here.
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>>144604581
Madokami has it all. Probably also batoto
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>>144605985
>Arc-Vfags accuse others of being Reddit
>Meaning they must go to Reddit in order to know what it's like

Talk about irony. Tell me more about Reddit is.
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>>144606146
Reddit loves Arc-V more than NAC and definitely more than /a/ from what I've seen
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>>144606129
>Madokami
im checking now, but batoto does not have it.
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>>144606146
>ARC-Vfags
>assuming things out of the blue
The way you talk is just so cringeworthy. I'm saying that you should take these so-called arguments back to Red dit where you belong.
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>>144606246
Sure in other words you're saying you're from Reddit

How about you go back there
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>>144606383
People have been arguing and debating on 4chan before Reddit even existed. Sorry you can't take the show you like being shit on for being bad.
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>>144606449
>still going on and on about the show when I don't even care about it
Dude... Are you actually buttblasted because I found you out?
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>>144594668
I'm disgusted. I can't believe that of all scenes, this was good to you? Yuma basically said "I'll kill myself even though you killed all my friends and was just about to kill me again, I'll protect you." Yuya is slowly inching his way to become even worse then Yuma but I'll hold my tongue because I'm fucking nauseous right now.
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>>144606560
Found what out? You sure are coming to conclusions and if you didn't care about the show you wouldn't be defending it so hard.
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>OP shows Shun at the tower
What a joke
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>>144606720
I'm not defending it. I'm attacking you directly.
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>>144606818
M-maybe Kaito will really die?
ARC-V OPs have always lied to us.
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>>144606902
I hope so.
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>>144603587
Nah, he talked to the people of Synchro on one or two occasions. They didn't like what they heard until he persistently kept winning out. Listen, what you're talking about IS bad writing, but in Synchro's Dimension it gets a pass because "winning to get your ideals across" is literally how things worked there. It's persisted though, and overstayed its welcome. I'm not saying I fucking like it, but it definitely can be excused in Synchro. It's this Xyz/Fusion shit that is unacceptable.
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>>144606849
>The arc was great because of its execution!
>Not defending the show
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>>144605175
His duels were pretty good and had significant impact even when he was losing. The Battle City duel is the best example of this.
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>>144606990
When did I say that?
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>>144606953
>but in Synchro's Dimension it gets a pass

No it doesn't.

>"winning to get your ideals across" is literally how things worked there

Show examples of that and wasn't that a problem the commons had in the first place?
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>>144606990
Executions part of the show

I dont even like arc v but come on retard help our cause by being less shit
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>>144607025
It's just him nitpicking.
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>>144604961
You should talk about it anyway and laugh at all the butthurt faggots who got their hopes up that it would be the "best Yu-Gi-Oh! ever" when it was really their first series in the franchise.
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>>144606990
Don't bother arguing with these guys. At this point I'm pretty positive they're legitimately underage b&.
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>>144607025
>Show me where I an anonymous poster said something

That chain started with someone saying the arc was executed well.
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>>144607063
>This isn't the time to be dueling!
>Then say that with your dueling!

>Odd-Eyes Saber Dragon episode.
>Everyone finally stops shitting on Yuya when he stops trying to pacify them and just blows his opponent the fuck out.
>Jack outright says at one point, no one is going to listen to someone who isn't fighting and winning.

It does get a pass in Synchro, because at least there, it's established that it's the society's fault. I'm not saying Synchro is fucking good or anything because it's not, but it's the dimension where Yuya's bullshit makes the most sense, so you can stop getting super defensive.

>And wasn't that a problem the Commons had in the first place.

Yeah, if I recall correctly it was. So what? What does that have to do with anything? Are you saying they should still be fucking angry, because we've established by now that yeah, the resolution of their riot was disappointing. They should have still been angry.
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>>144604961
When people go to a length to dissect why they're dissatisfied with the current state of the show, it's because they genuinely care (or cared) for it, at some point or another.

If you're seeing it 24/7 (I come here only on the weekends usually) it can get tiresome, but there's no ignoring that people (including the nips from what I see on nico) feel like their favored characters are getting shafted, there could be more character interaction, some duels could have been a lot better, etc.

Tbh I didn't think Standard was that hot either (except for a few great moments), but Yugioh has almost always at least held to its emotional core. It's hard to have that when most of the characters that aren't nobodies are hardly shown interacting in any meaningful ways. Or don't get shown at all.
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>>144607170
You're really not good with anonymous posting. As I said, you should really go back to Red dit.
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>this entire thread
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>>144607350
Anon, I want you to know that you sound like an absolute blithering retard and should probably stop.
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>>144607278
>It does get a pass in Synchro, because at least there, it's established that it's the society's fault. I'm not saying Synchro is fucking good or anything because it's not, but it's the dimension where Yuya's bullshit makes the most sense, so you can stop getting super defensive.

The whole solve problems with your dueling mantra doesn't work and has done nothing for the commons. They shouldn't believe in something like that.

>Yeah, if I recall correctly it was. So what?

They shouldn't fucking care about winning duels because that shit obviously hadn't been working for them before
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>>144607005
I honestly agree with you. But his villain cred is shit because he couldn't win against ANYONE important. At least Thief King Bakura could have done some damage but nothing to note of I think.
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>>144607089
In terms of average quality, I'd say it's still the best Yugioh ever. It's the only YGO series that's kept me entertained in some respect for its entire run aside eps 19 and 20.

GX had half its show crammed with filler.
Zexal was zexal.
5Ds had the entire WRGP situation
DM had shitloads of filler, and disregarding that, I didn't like Duelist Kingdom particularly much.
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Best boy coming through.
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>>144607836
ARC-V was only passably decent for 1/3 of its run, and its high points never reach the highs of any of the other series that came before it.
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>>144607840
>implying
tomato is the most delicious fruit
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>>144607656
Their entire caste system works because they all believe that the strong should rule the weak.

Hell, the only reason shinji wanted to rise up was because he wanted to be a tops citizen lording over commons.

Yuya doing his straight pendulum combo was an application of that which the city's never seen and it embodied a viable alternative that trumped the embodiment of their system, Red Demon's Dragon Tyrant.
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>>144607694
I had fun watching him lose, so I guess it's good enough for me. Vector is pretty much like Bakura 2.0 though. He has that same kind of distinct flavor, but he ran through Merag and Durbe.
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>>144607982
I disagree entirely. I was more hyped during 93-99 than at any point during zexal or GX.
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Arc-V is diseased, rotten to the core!

There's no saving it - we need to pull it out by the roots. Wipe the slate clean. BURN IT DOWN!

And from the ashes, a new Arc-V will be born. Evolved, but untamed! The weak will be purged and the strongest will thrive - free to live as they see fit, they'll make Toyetics great again! ...In my new toyetic, best girls and edgelords will die and kill for what they BELIEVE!

Not for money. not for card shilling! Not for what they're told is right. Every character will be free to complete his own story arc!
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>>144608006
Tomato a shit.
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>>144608131
>>144608131
>>144608131
Never talk about my waifu like that again.
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>>144595403
Lots of people fuck by that age and they're a cute couple. It'd be a little ridiculous to expect that sort of thing to be hinted in a kids show, but it's understandable that people would like some sort of hinting of that.
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>>144607694
He won when he dueled Pegasus with lasers and that ultimately led to Kaibacorp basically getting a monopoly on Duel Monsters.
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>>144606818
>>144606902
>LEO Corp rocket
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>>144607836
It's just average though, and that's a problem for me when I compare it to other series. In trying to be as smooth a ride as possible, it's sacrificed any semblance of identity. Its high points aren't ever high enough to justify its profound lows. It doesn't have a soul. It's the worst Yu-Gi-Oh! series because of that.

You can say what you want about every other series and its faults, but they were iconic and had their own individual merits. They were exciting. Arc-V is bland as hell, and it's extremely ironic that the series centered around a Duelist who wants to be an entertainer is the most boring of the five. It fails at being a drama. It fails at being a shonen. It hardly even feels like a Yu-Gi-Oh! series.
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>>144608082
Did you watch GX or ZEXAL?
Did you watch GX or ZEXAL without meme opinions weighing you down? Because GX was a much nicer watch for me than Arc-V, and the same can be said for ZEXAL. ZEXAL was much more exciting.
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>>144608411
Are you watching ARC-V without meme opinions weighing you down?
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>>144608460
Yeah. I am. I had taken a long hiatus from these threads and have only recently returned. The change in quality is fucking massive, I don't understand how anyone but the biggest stan couldn't see that.
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Arc-V had more potential but is actively squandering it with Kaito duels and EGAO

Ending could still be good

Emphasis on "could"
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>>144608015
Their caste system didn't work at all because the "weak" were living in poverty. There were people complaining about the poverty including Shinji. Shinji hated how the tops arrested people on false charges, Shinji told the commons to fight against the injustice that was being done to them. For fucks sake, remember his duel against Tsukikage. Shinji was a pretty interesting character early on. Before he turned into a retard. He had good arguments against the system. Yuya pendulum summoning against Jack had nothing on that. Shinji already wanted the weak to rise above their oppressors.
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>>144608021
Bakura compared to Vector is like comparing a hot wheel to a honda. It's basically the same concept, but the entertainment value is lopsided as fuck. Vector also was actually a psycho, had gorgeous animation, and actual wins. Damn even a better voice actor.
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>>144604897
Yeah cuz with ZEXAL we had bad guy rival turn into a good guy rival because ...?

Oh but the other bad guy rival turned into a good guy rival because ... something about muh otouto?

Now hold on I know for a fact that the first main villain became a good guy because ...muh family or something about some red alien?

Wait hold the fuck up, I'm telling you faggots that the villains who massacred the main character's friends including the one who massacred them too and tried to kill him multiple times AND the bad guy rival turned good rival who turned back into bad guy rival were all redeemed because ...?
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>>144608325
>It hardly even feels like a Yu-Gi-Oh! series.
Agreed. Other series went pants-on-head retarded a lot of the time, but that was part of the franchise's charm and at least they were over-the-top in an exciting way.

ARC-V is a snoozefest. There's never any point in getting excited for anything because every character that isn't named Yuya gets shuffled out before they can do anything worthwhile, and every development that could possibly be exciting is somehow avoided. I have no idea how you take the concept of an interdimensional card game war and make an anime this stale and uneventful.
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>>144608533
Fuck off. You always pop up with that retarded posting style just to restate what someone else in the thread already had, or posting something people already assume for themselves like it's more meaningful because you're the one to post it.
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>>144604961
Then leave anon. Let them be eternally buthurt.
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>>144608270
I kek'd. In the manga he ripped the fuck out of his eye like an uchiha and killed him, but Pegasus was a fruit so I don't know if that matters. He lived on in GX though.
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>>144608665
It's a one-man conspiracy.
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>>144608583
You can't just add "muh" and think it automatically trivializes things. All the villains in Zexal had their ties to their family/friends and their inner conflict actually shown in detail prior to them turning around.

Vector being redeemed was completely retarded, though, I'll give you that.
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>>144608665
I'm flattered that you can recognize me via text alone

You're really falling for me, Anon-kun!
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>>144608564
>actual wins

I think you mean "win" as in singular to two insignificant jobber. Vector's record is garbage for a major villain.
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>>144608665
I also type like that

With three lines and spaces

Is it a haiku?
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>>144608583
They at least had their personal reasons, no matter how shitty they were. It's not good, by any means, but it's better than turning because some fruity kid entered a warzone and told you to smile more.
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>>144608583
If you trivialize anything like that, it'll sound retarded. Shark and Kaito weren't instantaneously converted to Yuma's side or anything. It happened over time and it didn't happen because Yuma told them to smile. It happened because he continued to be himself in the most genuine way possible and showed them kindness, again, and again, and again. And it wasn't even that alone that swayed their opinions of him. His determination to become a substantial duelist garnered their genuine respect.

Besides, Kaito was never really evil to begin with. He performed a bunch of heinous and depraved acts in the interest of helping his brother, but he felt terrible about them halfway through the first section of the series. He even openly admits this in ZEXAL II.

Shark was hardly evil either. His personality was the product of his family being destroyed, in a similar fashion to Kaito's. He was lashing out at and hurting others to numb his own pain, in the same fashion as a typical schoolyard bully.
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>>144608411
I tried to watch GX a few years ago and dropped it at 81 eps and then skimmed the rest for interesting character focused eps. It just started getting too stupid and ultimately too boring for me to enjoy during season 2, which is ultimately unfortunate, since I could tell later on that the stuff in seasons 3 and 4 was of a generally higher quality, but by then I was too burned out after what I saw of season 2 to really care.

I marathoned zexal around the time it ended and while I managed to finish it, there were a lot of episodes I had to force myself through, particularly during the WDC. Probably would've dropped it at 29 if Anna wasn't introduced in that very ep. Watching yuma's stupidity have ultimately no effect on any part of the narrative due to the "astral dies if I lose" bullshit also took me out of the experience since he literally couldn't lose or the plot would end, and thus it lost any sense of tension for me whenever Kaito, Shark, the Arclights and about half the barians (Nasch, Mizael, Vector) weren't in focus.

And even then, the speed of Shark's turn to the barians really rubbed me the wrong way and practically ruined the character for me.

I won't deny Zexal having some high points, but it's too bogged down in its own bullshit for me to personally give it a pass.
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>>144609048
Fair enough.
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>>144609048
How can you comment on ARC-V having higher high points than GX when you didn't even watch the part of GX with the high points?
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>>144609168
Because he doesn't want to go through GX's horrible beginning to watch its so-called high points. 100 episodes of shit is too much for a single good season.
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>>144609168
It's like if someone said Arc-V was pure shit if they'd just started watching during Synchro.
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>>144609323
That's fine, but then you're not qualified to say how ARC-V compares to GX.
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>>144608583
>Comparing Kaito and Shark to genocidal soldiers.
>Two young men with bad family lives are on the same level as Academia's so-called elites.
>Academia
>The people who razed Xyz
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>>144609400
Standard was great, and Synchro is still better than GX's first 100 episodes.
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>>144609461
Saiou versus Edo and Saiou versus Judai > All of Synchro
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Will the jobber duo of Xyz ever return. I just want Allen to print more Trains.
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>>144609535
Jack vs Sergey and Jack vs Yuya > what you mentioned
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>>144609461
>Synchro is still better than GX's first 100 episodes.

No it isn't. Hell no. Kaiser was more hype than anything in Synchro. Saiou was a better and more compelling villain than Roger and seeing Kaiser's fall into hell, Edo's whole character arc, Yugi's deck, Kaibaman, Manjoume Thunder, Camula's arc and the return of Ra was far better than Synchro. You're out of your mind.
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>>144609572
>Jack versus Yuya
>Better than ZA WALDO
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>>144609545
I can't stop laughing how they get btfo'd.
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>>144609598
Yeah? Well, why don't you explain yourself then?
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>>144609461
I'd never say that GX handled its supporting cast well, but even the first 100 episodes were better about developing characters, having them interact with each other, and giving them a group dynamic than ARC-V during Synchro and beyond.
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Anyone else feel like Yugo should have been the protagonist of Synchro? He sort of feels unimportant in his home dimension.
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>>144609572
Jack vs Sergey was boring as fuck, two characters I didn't give a shit about that weren't going to be important in the long run.
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>>144609572
>Implying either of those were better than ZA LIIIIIIGHT RULAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>144609744
Explain what? You said that Standard was great and for no reason said Synchro was better than GX pre 101. Synchro didn't have enough content, character interactions, character development, villains or consistency to be better than early GX. Edo's arc alone blows away Synchro.
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>>144609903
He's right you know.
And that's a little sad because Edo's arc wasn't that good until the ending.
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>>144609903
Synchro had much better moments, Roger was a credible villain(unlike Saiou) and Edo's character arc was the only good thing about GX's season 2.
The worst part was Judai getting the Neo-Spacians.
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>>144609943
>Edo jumping around like batman and taking out criminals wasn't good
>Edo treating Kaiser like a child wasn't good
>Edo blowing Judai the fuck out while berating him wasn't good
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>>144610008
>Roger was a credible villain
Every fucking thing he did blew up in his face, he was a joke.
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>>144610016
You know what, you're right. Sorry, I wasn't really able to figure out if that should be counted as Edo focus or Judai focus.
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>>144610032
I stopped taking Roget seriously after he tried to help Serena cheat but she didn't take his bait. He can't read people at all.
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>>144610008
>Synchro had much better moments

No it didn't.

>Roger was a credible villain(unlike Saiou)

Saiou orchestrated nearly every single thing that happened in S2 and gave us 0TK. Roger was a shitty duelist who is only known for losing his shit. Saiou went around defeating the main cast and caused a cult to rise on the island due to his influence. Saiou was able to force his cards to get their broken effects and took control of a satellite system. Saiou and his relationship with his sister was more touching than anything that happened in Synchro.
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>>144610008
>Roger was a credible villain, unlike Saiou.
Almost every move Saiou made went in his favor. He was in complete control of everything important and he almost razed the surface of the planet. Every thing Roger tried to do went terribly. You honestly must not remember GX very well or you're biased towards Roger's design if you think Roger beats out Saiou.

Edo's character arc made up the bulk of GX's second season, but it had other great moments like with Judai versus Manjoume. Also the Neo-Spacians were cool and Neos was a total bro.
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>>144610142
>taking roget seriously ever
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>>144610176
>Saiou went around defeating the main cast
Yeah, because the main cast wasn't full of fucking jobbers except Judai. Really impressive.
Roger had a mystery surrounding his identity. It made him threatening.
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https://youtu.be/njAK4iwqAAM
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>>144610294
>Roger had a mystery surrounding his identity.

Guess what? The writers never bothered to explore it.
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>>144610368
Have you even watched the end of Synchro? His identity was revealed.
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>>144610294
>Yeah, because the main cast wasn't full of fucking jobbers except Judai. Really impressive.

Well it wasn't. Manjoume, Kenzan, Edo? That's a pretty big deal. He 0tk's Prince Ojin too.

Roger never beat anyone. A mystery surrounding someone's identity doesn't make them threatening. It makes them interesting for a little while. Saiou was much more interesting and genuinely compelling.
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>>144610359
Wow that is actually really well done. Better than the actual OP1
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>>144610294
>Roger had a mystery surrounding his identity. It made him threatening.
I thought Roger's identity was pretty obvious from the start

Maybe it was the purple outfit he wore than just screamed Fusion
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>>144610359
I wish this was the OP for that arc.
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>>144610480
>Manjoume
He's the biggest fucking jobber.
>Sho
>Asuka
>Misawa
>Crowler
Remember them? They were all useless during the Seven Stars arc.
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>>144600035
It's funny how the protag that looks the most likely to take dick is actually the straightest one.
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>>144610472
Yeah, he worked for Academia. Whoop-de-doo. The writers still didn't bother to explore why he left Academia, what his relationship with Leo was, or what even compelled him to join the ranks of Academia in the first place.

All we got was a power-hungry villain who turned on his own people with no depth to it.
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>>144610521
Honestly? There was never any sort of mystery as to who he was or what his role in the story would be. His exact character could be pinned down at a glance, and anyone who was familiar with 5Ds knew he was Synchro's answer to Godwin and therefore would be an antagonistic figure. An antagonistic authority figure with a sketchy background. You could look right at his face and tell from the get go that he was going to be that guy, that guy who wanted to maintain a position of power over Synchro and wasn't really concerned with Fusion or the other dimension's doings.
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>>144610642
Asuka beat one of the Seven Stars though.
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>>144610642
Saiou didn't fight any of the people you just named except for Manjoume.

Also, Asuka took down Titan in Seven Stars.
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>>144610582
>>144610359
It'll fit OP 6 to be honest.
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>>144610642
Asuka was one of the only two besides Judai that actually beat a Seven Star.
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>>144610694
>implying there was depth to be found in a villain that was simply corrupted by a greater force
Saiou's backstory was the most generic backstory in all of YGO.
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>>144586970
Yusei was the best protag
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>>144610761
>Wakamoto will never kidnap you to the shadowrealm
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I think I'd like it if Arc-V ended with Leo's plan succeeding and it actually creates a better, fused world for all the people of the four dimensions.
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>>144610807
Yusei was literally Jesus.
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>>144610642
Saiou never dueled Sho, Asuka, Misawa or Chronos. Manjoume is also pretty strong, he's not the biggest jobber. He consistently loses to Judai, he lost to Asuka, he lost to Amnael, and he lost to Saiou. He has a lot of duels though and he wins the majority of them.

Just because he wasn't taken as seriously in the anime after being humbled doesn't mean he's a jobber.
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>>144610874
He lost to the fucking duel zombies.
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