[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | | Home]

Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1610

This is a blue board which means that it's for everybody (Safe For Work content only). If you see any adult content, please report it.

Thread replies: 520
Thread images: 85

File: DZT.jpg (235KB, 1000x750px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
DZT.jpg
235KB, 1000x750px
Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
http://dekinai.neocities.org/

Previous Thread:
>>144454813
>>
File: からー.jpg (78KB, 639x433px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
からー.jpg
78KB, 639x433px
>>
File: anki-nee.jpg (139KB, 500x573px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
anki-nee.jpg
139KB, 500x573px
Don't forget you can still do your アンキ while riding the 新幹線
>>
>don't do kanji, do vocab
Aren't they the same thing? Or do you just mean to learn to recognise the hiragana equivalent?
>>
File: memed.jpg (26KB, 328x466px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
memed.jpg
26KB, 328x466px
>>144499479
Is djt going to appropriate every meme girl on the board?
>>
>>144471217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv6Vye1JCjo
>>
File: ぞい.png (208KB, 524x402px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
ぞい.png
208KB, 524x402px
>>144499390
>>
>>144499536
Not every kanji is actually used as a word on its own. Though it can still be somewhat useful to have a general idea of what a kanji means on its own, for guessing the meaning of jukugo you don't know or something.
>>
>>144499536
Kanji is just what vocab is made up of, not the vocabulary itself

With kanji study you just learn that 食 has the connotation of "food", and that it's made up of the radicals
>>
>>144499536
Kanji is not words, vocab is words. If you learn 200 kanji you will know close to 0 words. If you study 200 vocab words you will know 200 words. You need words to read, you read to learn.
>>
>read manga series
>build deck specific to manga series
>delete the entire deck once I stop reading the manga

Anybody else doing this?
>>
>>144499873
No

Why would you do that
>>
>>144499479
>implying I have 新幹線 in アメリカ
>>
>>144499873
If the words are common or important I don't really see the point. Also why not just stop doing the deck instead of deleting it completely, so you could always go back?
>>
>>144499873
I really hope not because that's completely retarded but someone probably does.
>>
>>144499873
You should have exported it to everyone else
>>
>>144499873
I just mine everything to a big ass deck as I come across it. My problem now is if I read as much as I'd like I'll end up with way too many reviews. The solution is probably just to skip words once I feel like reviews are starting to be too much.
>>
all jokes aside, you better do some kanji study. it'll make it easier to mine later on. unless you have a thing for drawing. yeah i'm an idiot, just telling other idiots
>>
>>144500095
This was my issue

I gathered so many useless situational vocab only used in a specific chapter in a specific manga


Constantly making fresh decks for new reading materiel ensures that I learn the most common words shared between all manga first, while spending time on situational vocab only as long as I actually read the manga this vocab is used in
>>
>>144500148
Don't worry, we're all blind.
>>
First time in a DJT thread, I've just begun learning Japanese again after a hiatus and I'm still struggling slightly to differentiate the topic particles は and がbeyond the obvious stuff such as differentiating one specific item from a group, and use in question sentences. I checked the link and I just want to clarify things.

Would it be right for me to say that you would use は to describe the property of a noun, and you'd use が to state what that noun actually is?
As in
(noun)は(adjective)
(noun)が(noun)

as in

田中は日本人です
Tanaka is Japanese

田中が犬です
Tanaka is a dog

Is this at least, one of the main differences?
>>
>>144500235
I can't give up the sweet feeling of acquiring words. Just hit 2k mined. It's something tangible I can look at to feel like I'm progressing, even if it doesn't mean much.
>>
>>144500361
Didn't you read Tae Kim? Summed up in one section. が is more like an emphasis.
>>
Native reading speed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOj-FJE1hEU

Can you keep up /djt/? Haha.
>>
File: Untitled-1.jpg (277KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Untitled-1.jpg
277KB, 1920x1080px
I was watching God Eater and I heard this:
> ピタを倒さなくては
Googling it gave me:
> implied ない + て + は なりません

oh japan
Watching anime is also learning.
>>
>>144500590
>Can you keep up /djt/?
From the several minutes of it I watched, yes I can. I guess I am become native.
>>
>>144500902
He waits for the voices in voiced scenes if you noticed. If you can keep up with the non-voiced monologue, why the fuck are you here?
>>
>>144500590
SAYA IS CUTE


C
U
T
E
>>
>>144500590
Go back to discord.
>>
>>144500095
The solution is to deal with it and keep going, half a year later the amount of shit you'll need to mine will go down drastically.
>>
>>144500148
>it'll make it easier to mine later on
I don't see how. Remembering what kanji means is already trivial and doesn't justify a separate study and no kanji study will save me from kanji with gazillion reading or vague ass kana only words.
>>
File: こんにゃく?.jpg (279KB, 800x800px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
こんにゃく?.jpg
279KB, 800x800px
Don't start with that shitty Hanahira VN. Read Yotsuba.

It's great.
>>
>>144502500
Too late, started with Arifureta.
>>
>>144500600
Not try watching it without subs to study for real
>>
>>144500361
stop trolling nobody care you attention whore
>>
>>144500438
Thanks for the pointer, I actually began learning Japanese with him originally.

So to straighten things out, if we had
田中は背の高いです
it would be a general statement about Tanaka being tall, however if somebody asked
誰が背の高いですか
you would reply with
田中が背の高いです
>>
>>144502485
Some people have more difficulty differentiating kanji than others
>>
>>144502767
don't waste a single more thought on this dude

you'll get it from reading rather than studying
>>
>>144502767
fucking hell it's 背が高い not 背の高い (wtf の before an adjective).

The only thing you need to know is you can only use は once in sentence for the rest just learn by heart all the expression and sentence in which you use が。
>>
File: 1468668159334.jpg (458KB, 830x1200px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1468668159334.jpg
458KB, 830x1200px
>>144502500
This

I was frustrated as FUCK when starting japanese

Then I discovered the yotsuba reading pack / decks
>>
>>144502767
>背の高い
You can only use this when you're modifying a noun. Otherwise, like now, you have to use 背が高い.
>>
>>144502983
Yotsuba is pretty magical

I remember it being somewhat of a bitch at a beginner level though because of all the slang
>>
>>144502980
>The only thing you need to know is you can only use は once in sentence


This is true, except for those very common cases where there are multiple はs per sentence
>>
>>144503045
Which is where the reading pack comes in

The vocab PDF (not the deck) translates the slang to "normal" japanese
>>
>>144503091
There's only reading packs for the first two volumes though isn't there?
>>
>>144502980
>>144503043
my bad, was being quick and sloppy on my part
>>
>>144503131
By the third volume you'll have a good enough grasp on the slang.
>>
何事もやらずに後悔するならやって後悔したい

Guys I don't know what's being said here, I think my problem lies in the するならやって part, can anyone enlighten me or is there not enough context?
>>
>>144503537
>何事もやらずに後悔するならやって後悔したい

I want to regret doing If you regret not do nothing happened
>>
Is it okay if I don't bother with RTK and just learn the particles instead?
>>
>>144503537
Never mind I just got it, I was confused because I thought the したい was just modifying that last 後悔
>>
Can I ever take breaks from reps? Must I do them everyday?
>>
>>144503699
Yes
Everyday
For the rest of your life
>>
File: 1465161449198.jpg (193KB, 728x546px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1465161449198.jpg
193KB, 728x546px
>>144503699
I took my first break yesterday for the first time in 3 months. 何でもいい
>>
>>144502980
>fucking hell it's 背が高い not 背の高い (wtf の before an adjective).

This is normal though. の can replace が in clauses, and even outside clauses, if you imply a word like 人 as the modified noun, or simply bend the grammar like happens very often. Though it doesn't sound quite natural here, just pointing it out since the "(wtf の before an adjective)." made it seem like you didn't know
>>
>>144503815
>and even outside clauses
Can you give an example?
>>
File: 1468434595494.png (681KB, 960x476px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1468434595494.png
681KB, 960x476px
>>144503699
You cannot stop.
>>
>>144503724
>>144503774
>>144503911
But what if something comes up where I can't do anki for a day like if my arms break or something?
>>
>>144503911
It's actually worse than Sisyphus. Our rock grows larger each time
>>
>>144503952
You still have feet.
>>
>>144504014
What if I break those as well?
>>
>>144500955
>why the fuck are you here?
Habit. I've been here so long I don't know how to live without these threads.
>>
>>144502189
?
>>
>>144504032
You can set up your computer to use eye movement for the mouse and blinking for clicking. There's literally no excuse, if you're conscious, you can do your reps.
>>
>>144503952
If you have an actual life you can take moderate breaks. If you're a stinky hikki fucker with a lot of free time you have no excuse.
>>
>>144504032
Use your dick.
>>
>>144504115
How can I set that kind of thing up with no hands or feet?
>>
>>144503864
Well the sentence 背の高いです he posted itself could be used, if it was obvious that he is talking about a 人 he wouldn't really need to say that word.

And indeed if you for example try search for that sentence in quotes on google you get no less than 163 000 results
>>
>>144504173
>And indeed if you for example try search for that sentence in quotes on google you get no less than 163 000 results
Something about the results make me question their legitimacy though
>>
>>144504118
>If you have an actual life you can take moderate breaks.
Forever dekiani
>>
>>144504319
Well the uses in natural sentences in random blogposts or BBSes obviously won't float up to the front page but be buried somewhere in the pile. 163k results can't all be bogus
>>
File: aaa.png (20KB, 628x409px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
aaa.png
20KB, 628x409px
>>144504562
>163k results can't all be bogus
Try looking at later pages
>>
File: imouto.jpg (159KB, 640x1136px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
159KB, 640x1136px
おはようおにいちゃん

はやおきはさんもんのとく
>>
Can Rikaikun be used for mining decks?
>>
>>144504622
美羽の寝顔に落書きしてもいいですか
>>
>>144504748
No

Use firefox with rikaisama
>>
>>144504900
alrighty
>>
Jesus fuck Anki ramps up quickly.
>>
>>144503911
I took a 3 day break.
Whatcha gonna do about it?
>>
>spend all free time doing anki
>have no time for grammer
>thus can't read
help
>>
>>144502597
Tried a few times already, I get about 75~80% of everything (on "normal" shows. Scientific stuff or other stuff I'm not used is terrible).
Still not the in the level where I can find it enjoyable to watch it without subs, and I watch for enjoyment so I don't plan on dropping subs anytime soon...

>>144504622
おはよう、いもうとさん
はやおきはさんもんのとくって何? 俗諺か?

「Good things comes to those who wake up early」みたいな?
>>
>>144505764
Try this
>do less anki
>study grammo
>read
>>
>>144505817
>do less anki
how
>>
>>144505860
Decrease your new cards per day
Don't do production cards
>>
>>144505860
tell it to stop bullying you. it will stop
>>
>>144505898
Decrease to what?
>>
>>144505903
Yea that always works
>>
>>144505971
To N = C/2 + 10, C >= 20, where C is your current number
>>
>>144506086
>C=20
>C/2=10
>10+10=20
aaaaaaa
>>
What's the recommended texthooker? I remember AGTH being the normal one, but that was quite a long time ago, is there a better one now? AGTH is kind of a bitch to set up too
>>
>>144506177
There are a couple of models that decribe the recommended behaviour at sub-20 levels, the most accepted of which encourages that you give up
>>
>>144506281
ITHVNR is the best one currently.
>>
>>144506304
Fuck it I'll just stick it to 15 and call it a day.
>>
File: 1468752999032.png (64KB, 558x189px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1468752999032.png
64KB, 558x189px
>>
File: 1465638124916.jpg (70KB, 463x470px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1465638124916.jpg
70KB, 463x470px
>>144506393
やめて
>>
>>144506317
Ah, thanks, I'll check it out now

I don't usually bother with them but I downloaded a VN that crashes when you alt+tab out of it, so don't have much choice
>>
お前の言うことは信じられない..!!
>>
Are there any good nip fonts that look like (legible) handwriting for the purposes of anki?
>>
I hate it when one day the Japanese just flows into your brain without even having to think about it, and then the next you can't understand shit no matter how much time you spend on it

I wish I was just in top form all the time
>>
>>144507445
Sure
http://designpocket.jp/dl_font_category/detail.aspx?bid=15427
Buy this and upload it for us
>>
>>144506281
Look at the resources page in the OP. All of the cool kids use the set-up with Firefox.
>>
>>144507464
Same here it's crazy how on a good day I can read and not have to think mostly in English, and the next day I get shit on
>>
What do you do when you fall asleep doing reps?
>>
>>144507550
A good idea is to disable Firefox auto-updates so it doesn't break your Rikai setup every 5 minutes and only use it for mining, using a non-shit browser for regular browsing.
>>
>>144507596
See sweet japanese dreams.
What the fuck else can you do when you fall asleep?
>>
>>144507669
Yeah but what the next day. I didn't finish reps.
>>
>>144507878
Finish your reps when you wake up.
>>
Just realized it was オナニーの日 (might still be depending where you live)
>>
Do you guys practice handwriting Japanese or do you stick to just being able to read?
>>
>>144508084
I practice writing kanji, but not because I want to be able to write them, just because it helps a lot with retaining them
>>
>>144506393
if you can't read this you'll never learn japanese
>>
>>144508084
I can write my name and address, worked quite well for me so far.
>>
>>144500590
>Native reading speed:
>a playthrough video of a VN
Please commit sudoku.
>>
>>144508025
But now I have more reps to do. And if I have 200+ cards left when I fall asleep it counts for nothing.
>>
>>144508213
ギブアップ
>>
>>144508286
no u
>>
>>144508206
Are you trying to imply something here? Please be more obvious.
>>
>>144508213
What the fuck else do think you can do?
Time leap back a day?
Your only options are doing your reps or giving up.
>>
>>144508409
Thank you anon I will just do my reps and hope not to fall asleep doing them the next day.
>>
>>144508619
Try to do them earlier. I always do mine in the morning because I can concentrate the most then and I ont procrastinate as much.
>>
>>144508783
My schedule is wake up -> work for 7 hours -> do misc chores -> play some vidya or watch anime so I don't kill myself -> do reps -> sleep.

I'll try but no promises.
>>
>>144508783
I don't know if it's just me but, I found that after doing them in the morning everyday for like a month or so, my retention started going to shit, so I started doing them in the evening everyday again and it went up, so maybe the key is just not doing them at the same time everyday for too long
>>
>>144509089
It's best to do them whenever you're most alert. I'm alert in the morning because I sleep properly.
>>
>>144509089
There's some studies indicating that retention is better for people studying shortly before sleeping, as they get more benefit from sleep's ability to help you store memories made during the day.

Just feels very counter-intuitive, since your concentration is lower when tired, but remember that retention isn't necessarily correlated with how good you feel you are at doing your reps.
>>
>>144509080
How're ya gonna learn if you don't read
>>
>>144509080
>work for 7hrs + misc choes
god don't remind me how horrible my life will be once my money runs out in a few months and I have to get a job.
How did the world come to this?
>>
>>144509922
My money ran out months ago, feels pretty shitty being poor but fuck I really don't want anything to do with the outside world
>>
>>144510012
Same. I feel like the whole business world is a game played by faggots who want to take their chances throwing their time down the drain for a chance to get rich and buy tons of crap. Half of it is all artificial bullshit and time sinks just to prove you deserve to move up the ladder or something.

People who are willing to live a mediocre life where the most expensive things they'll ever own is an apartment+car+computer should get an entirely separate deal. Like 4 hour work day, tops.
Let all the money grubbing retards play their own game.
>>
>>144510810
Get good enough to do freelance translation then.
>>
>>144510810
That's a defeatist attitude. I kind of fucking hate you spoiled piece of shit.
>>
>>144511231
and I hate you people who are so dull you can't find anything better to do with your time on Earth than to throw it down the drain so you can buy some nice shiny shoes.

"Defeatist" my ass. I'm probably more productive than you on my spare time. Just because I don't want to put on pants and drive somewhere for hours every day to do what basically amounts to "face time" for shit I could get done at home in half the time and with twice the quality doesn't make me spoiled.

Go play your stupid normalfag game pretending the average workman isn't being tremendously exploited for profit, maybe one day you'll kiss enough ass and throw enough of your time down the drain to be able to buy a jetski.
I bet your life will be really fulfilling then.
>>
>>144511231
>I kind of fucking hate you spoiled piece of shit.
Why is accepting an ascetic life style in exchange for more free time spoiled
>>
>>144511708
>and I hate you people who are so dull you can't find anything better to do with your time on Earth than to throw it down the drain so you can buy some nice shiny shoes.
I need to work to fucking eat, you cunt.
>>
Are there better scans for the Read Real Japanese series? The ones on the CoR suck.
>>
>>144511708
Poorfag job or university professor, it doesn't really matter because in both causes you work at least 8 hours a day.
>>
File: earning.jpg (126KB, 455x455px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
earning.jpg
126KB, 455x455px
>>144511955
and you really think in this modern world 7hours of your time every day is the price of food?

That's honestly a very outdated concept of the way the world works that the people at the top don't want everyone finding out.
>>
>>144512327
That's the way it works in a 3rd world shithole, princess.
>>
>>144512402
Country doesn't matter. We're talking about the way things _should_ be here dumbass. Not the way they are.
The resources of this planet are, contrary to popular belief, capable of allowing every human being on this planet (and even much more than that) to live in a house with food and running water and without even requiring them all to work.

If you're ok with letting the money grubbing power hungry morons hold the entire planet down then that's your business.
>>
>>144512647
I'm not okay with it but I need to feed myself too. And holing up in your room sure is a good way to fight the power, isn't it?
>>
>>144512845
What's your point? I said I'm going to have to get a job too eventually didn't I?

Can't a guy dream without being attacked for it? I don't need you waving your 3rd world "I'm a real man because I know real strife" penis in my face
>>
File: confucius.jpg (439KB, 937x1088px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
confucius.jpg
439KB, 937x1088px
汝無幫說日本語之朋.
>>
>>144512402
We have a global post-scarcity economy. The first world countries profit off of the poverty of the shitholes. It's blatantly wrong to pretend that's just how shitholes are.
>>
What made you take that first step in learning the moonrunes, /djt/? Here's mine.

>go to a vn thread
>find out about monobeno, of course it doesn't have a translation
>someone told me i should try learning japanese
>i asked how long it would take
>he said '1 week, 2 weeks tops to read monobeno'
That's what got me to start learning Japanese, specifically so I can read Monobeno. That's it, there's no other reason. I didn't think it would take this long.

It's been 2 years since then. please send help.
>>
>>144513428
I read Monobeno after like 1 year 4 months
>>
File: 40616634_p0.png (278KB, 600x800px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
40616634_p0.png
278KB, 600x800px
Any good ways to practice listening of everyday spoken japanese?
>>
>>144513516
Variety shows
>>
>>144513428
Learning solely to mock EOPs.
>>
>>144513428
I realized I was doomed to be NEET forever and might as well.
>>
>>144513428
The Kiseki series. Now that practically all the series will be translated in English by 2018, I think to myself why do I even bother.
>>
>>144513428
After I finished reading Chaos;Head and Steins;Gate I realized I could probably learn Japanese faster than someone will translate their sequels, then I remembered always seeing djt in the catalog, opened thread and read the guide.
Finishing Chaos;Child now, everything worked out.
>>
> 洞窟へいくのですか?王国の騎士様なら止めはしませんが、気をつけてくださいね

Could I get a hand with this sentence? I'm not sure what the kingdom knights are supposed to be doing (or not doing) here.
>>
>>144514329
What are you confused about?

>王国の騎士様なら
>(私は)止めはしませんが
>気をつけてくださいね
>>
>>144514329
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/conditionals
>>
>>144514388

the 止めはしませんが part

if the knights don't stop you, be careful?

??
>>
File: リア充.png (321KB, 500x558px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
リア充.png
321KB, 500x558px
昼休み時間
みんな、ウェイ!!
>>
>>144514761
止めはしません is like a more emphatic negation of 止める. It's used in this case to contrast her actions - The speaker won't stop the person, but they will (at least) tell them to take care.
>>
>>144513428
Watched enough anime and realised I knew Japanese. Now I just lurk here since I got nothing better to do
>>
File: 1318177589862.jpg (152KB, 793x720px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1318177589862.jpg
152KB, 793x720px
>>144513428
Eh, that's an interesting topic...

> learned only kanas at young age because Dragon Ball Z was popular
> dropped studies, never found something interesting to motivate me further
> 20 years later I find this Rocket Monkey eromango that I really, really wanted to know what's going on
> Tried to read it, was understanding it "no shit" I said to myself
> "just to make sure" I attempted to translate it and posted around here to get corrections
> some anon helped, but surprisingly there weren't many mistakes
> still now I don't know how the fuck I learned moon after only knowing kanas with a single guide and about a week or so to translate that
> I say it's 20 years of anime

Said eromango:
http://exhentai.org/g/933990/62b3ae09b3/

I think I'm kinda like >>144514992
>>
>>144513428
No subs.

No translations for games.

Erotic audio came later (when I already knew a good deal) as a bonus.
>>
>>144513428
the guide was here and id been watching subbed anime since 2001, picked up a few set phrases

saw the guide around /a/ while shitposting some made up mahouka webms about 8 months ago, picked up core and just bumbled my way through 第06巻 of yotsubato. started 'mining' it but just for the habit i guess
>>
Looking at the date of some old files, I saw that I've been learning Japanese since 2008 and I haven't fucking learned this shit language (N2 level at best).
>>
>>144517159

> I've been learning Japanese since 2008 and I haven't fucking learned this shit language

Me neither. I can read shit but I can't understand it.
>>
File: n2-question.png (768KB, 799x2061px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
n2-question.png
768KB, 799x2061px
This is the difficulty of your average N2 reading question. Are you there yet?
>>
>>144518054
This reminds me why I hated school. They made me read boring shit
>>
>>144499381
Faggot question

What's the best place to download VN's with japanese text?

Yeah I'm a retard and I've been struggling with it, nyaa doesn't have many seeders so it's not an option...
>>
>>144518533
respect yourself anon
>>
>>144519421
ok I'm smart

so back to my question, where to download VNs?
>>
>>144519518
>ok i'm smart
then you should be able to figure it out on your own
>>
>>144518533
https://sukebei.nyaa.se/
>>
>>144518054
Hmm sorta interesting read maybe because I'm think somewhat alike...

As for answer... 2?
>>
why is perfect dark so hard to setup? i feel like i need to become a computer expert just to use it.
>>
>>144518054
>chinese font
You can't expect me to read that shit.
>>
>>144518054
That's N2? Shit, I'd guess like N4.
>>
File: 1408243400210s.jpg (2KB, 125x93px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1408243400210s.jpg
2KB, 125x93px
wew lads it took me 3 hours to just get through the intro for Baldr Sky. This shit is going to take me 100+ hours to read completely
>>
>>144520314
Remember some idiot here took 11 months to read Flyable Heart. You'll definitely do better than he did.
>>
Is it an improvement?
>>
>>144500361
Tanaka is the Japanese person
Tanaka is a dog
>>
I've been doing Anki diligently for 1 year. Took Jcat, and my score is just sub 200.

Fuck. Few more years then.

What have I been doing wrong anons.
>>
>>144520595
Going full DJT.
>>
>>144506729
あれ?
お前が何を語りませんか?
>>
>>144520881
>何を語りませんか
>>
File: 876554421907.jpg (9KB, 344x209px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
876554421907.jpg
9KB, 344x209px
>>144520881
>お前

失礼な人 
>>
>>144520476
translations are not interpretations of characterizations
>>
File: 1331871123274.jpg (190KB, 442x650px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1331871123274.jpg
190KB, 442x650px
>>144520466
>idiot
>>
File: 1425231335692.jpg (162KB, 640x800px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1425231335692.jpg
162KB, 640x800px
>>144521403
What're you reading at the moment, and how are you finding it?
>>
>>144505789
You can earn bonus three Mon who wake up early.

mon:むかしのYen
>>
>>144522343
Zero no Tsukaima, 41% through it so far and I am enjoying it. Reading it really makes me want to watch the anime again. Zero no Tsukaima and Shakugan no Shana were some of the first series I watched when I started getting into anime, and I've always wanted to be able to read the LNs. It is great that I can actually read them now, despite not understanding or misunderstanding a lot of sentences. Unfortunately only the first ZnT novel is in the AZW pack, so I might have to switch over to Shakugan no Shana or something else for my second LN.

The good thing about reading LNs is that I can actually see my progress. I love seeing my % read steadily, but slowly, rising. Reading on my Kindle is nice because it is easy to look things up, but the dictionary kind of sucks, especially compared to Rikaichan.

My goal for the year was to read 3 VNs, but right now it is looking like it will be 2 VNs and 1 LN.
>>
I'm trying to read a PDF but the text, despite being written horizontally, is interpreted as if each character is on its own line. When I copy and paste it, I have to remove the line breaks, and rikaisama won't parse it. Is there any way to fix this?
>>
File: imouto.jpg (15KB, 300x225px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
15KB, 300x225px
おにいちゃんおなかすいた

ちーずけーきたべたい
>>
File: 1444258345233.png (80KB, 500x421px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1444258345233.png
80KB, 500x421px
>tfw I will never be Japanese
How do you fellow weeb friends cope with this feelio?
>>
>>144522950
チーズケーキはめーめです、実際は
>>
File: mencius-2.jpg (133KB, 900x750px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
mencius-2.jpg
133KB, 900x750px
>>144522951
汝漢.
>>
File: imouto.jpg (74KB, 440x448px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
74KB, 440x448px
>>144523020
じゃあ鮎、鮎たべたい

しゅんだよ
>>
>>
File: ゼロの使い魔.jpg (195KB, 1280x1798px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
ゼロの使い魔.jpg
195KB, 1280x1798px
>>144522830
i liked that show cept for the middle seasons, got kinda slow
>>
File: 1329898862449.jpg (3KB, 109x126px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1329898862449.jpg
3KB, 109x126px
>Life falling to pieces around me
>Going to fail MCAT miserably
>Crushed under weight of parents' expectations as future med school student
>Know I just won't cut it no matter how well I do on this soul-crushing exam
>Try to ease the pain by studying foreign language, which I've loved doing since elementary school
>Been working on Anki for almost a year now, and plan on seriously focusing on studying Japanese beyond nightly reps next year
>Cards keep mentioning doctors, how hard one has to work to become one, how important a doctors' job is, etc

why does it have to hurt me this way

it also taught me 転ぶ about a day after my grandfather fell down the stairs and was hospitalized, he died about a week later
>>
>>144524821
Funny that ZNT has come up in this thread, my original plan was to attach this very image to my whiny post about Anki.

The novels are way, way superior to the anime. They completely skipped over the 8th novel, which is the most important one for the development of Saito's character. Man, that was years and years ago and I'm still pissed thinking about it.
>>
File: 1373345532933.png (869KB, 942x531px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1373345532933.png
869KB, 942x531px
>>144524866
I forgot the image. That's 3 precious posts I've now completely thrown away in this thread. Now I just look silly. I told you my life was falling to pieces.
>>
>>144524830
>MCAT

Just take the JCAT instead.
>>
>>144524866
>They completely skipped over the 8th novel, which is the most important one for the development of Saito's character. Man, that was years and years ago and I'm still pissed thinking about it

they always butcher something about the adapation, im still mad about the last two eps of claymore and im still a filthy secondary.. or even tertiary since i could probably fumble my way through the raw now
>>
>>144524971
THIS

It's used by real universities!
>>
>>144525034
>>144524971

They may understand how hard I work on my Japanese, and how good I am with foreign language in general, but I'm already like $4,000 in the hole preparing for this med school exam and I can't even imagine how poorly I will handle their disappointment when the inevitable comes. I think its too late to jump ship.

I also can't make rent this month!
>>
>>144525190
very nice i look forward to your next blog post man just maybe don't fucking post it on the 4chan anime board you fucking whiny pussy
>>
File: confucious.jpg (47KB, 570x362px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
confucious.jpg
47KB, 570x362px
>>144525313
有䚴乎?
>>
>>144522830
Shakugan no Shana was the anime that got me into this lifestyle too, good times. Probably won't get around to reading the LNs though since there are too many better series and they take so long to read.

Are you still only reading a few tens of minutes each day? Because that's really not a good idea.
>>
Hey /djt/ I don't study moon, just pick up some with anime. How come yasashikata is subbed as "was kind" when kata means something like a method (like in yarikata)? Shouldn't it be translated as "way(s) of being kind"?

Surprised how prominent this is, I sent multiple complains regarding this shit to the dumbfucks who officially translate chinese cartoons. Should I just watch raws? We all know that subs are localized to hell, and let's not get started with memesubs like commie either.
>>
Just a minor question.
この辺りは昔、湖だったであろうと思われる。DoIJG translates this as "I think that this area was probably a lake a long time ago."
but it sounds more like "It is thought that this area was probably a lake a long time ago" or "It appears this area...... etc."

This is more consistent with DoIJG's entry for 思われる and the fact that 思われる is in passive form. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think 思う would be more appropriate for the DoIJG example right?
>>
>>144525958
Now you mention it, it's been years and years since I read through ZNT... last time I did there were only 12 novels and I hadn't even begun studying Japanese yet (obviously I was reading translations). I reckon I should pick it back up for some more delicious reading practice. I need to do a better job complimenting my reps with other material, and reading is probably where I slack the most!

Last I heard, they were going to continue through with the rest of the novels after Yamaguchi bit the dust. That was a while ago, though, I wonder if you know how much progress has been made? I'm pretty clueless.
>>
>>144526125
かった is what you're hearing. Katta, not kata. It's being conjugated in the past, 優しかった is the past-tense of 優しい (kind)

Many things will conjugate in the past with a かった at the end. Yasashii and other verbs that end in い all do it.
>>
>>144526249
Read the second part before you bother responding to an unfunny shitpost.
>>
>>144526125
>Should I just watch raws?
Just dont. please
>>
>>144526271
Your shitpost is also unfunny and I'm responding to it, too. What are you going to do about it?
>>
>>144524003
釣りに行くってことね?
せいぜい頑張れよ
>>
File: ZnT.png (81KB, 262x499px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
ZnT.png
81KB, 262x499px
>>144525958
Yes, I am still doing that, even though I know it is a bad idea. One night my power went out for several hours and I ended up reading more.

>>144526136
The first one with the new author was released earlier this year.
>>
>>144526491
Very neat, thanks. I'll look in to getting my hands on the novels past 12, I should still have the first 12 saved somewhere but lord knows if I have the translations alone or the originals as well.
>>
>>144526128
Not necessarily.
http://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/4897790.html

Personally I'd probably interpret
>この辺りは昔、湖だったであろうと思われる
like you say, but Japanese heart is mysterious.
>>
>>144526632
>思われます

Oh yeah...
Thanks!
>>
File: imouto.jpg (416KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
416KB, 1024x768px
>>144526445
はやく釣ってきて

ちなみに帰り道にお魚屋さんあるからね

がんばっておにいちゃん
>>
File: 1422391674548.jpg (1MB, 1900x1353px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1422391674548.jpg
1MB, 1900x1353px
>>144526491
You really need to find a way of getting yourself to read more. What about reading several things at once, like a VN and an LN and a manga of different genres, so when you're not in the mood for one you can switch to the other? Or just setting up a certain timezone each day and not letting yourself do anything but reading during that time?
>>
>>144526902
I don't think forcing it will work. Eventually I will really get into a story and then it will happen naturally. I have a hard enough time getting myself to do my over 1 hour of Anki every day.
>>
>>144527908
Why would you do that much anki? Just read.
>>
>>144527908
Reading is infinitely more important than anki
>>
What is a good dump of resources, I want to download a lot of resources since I will be away without internet for a while and I want to study.

Is there a torrent like the Gentoomen Library?
>>
>reading Japanese reports about garbage disposal at 4am
did I made it yet
>>
>>144527991
>>144528015
I can't learn new words unless I use Anki. I didn't mine while reading Flyable Heart and I learned almost no vocab from it.

I do my Core5k reviews, 10 new words in my mining deck, and 3 new cards in the DOJG deck. I don't even really review the DOJG deck, I just read the short description on each card and hit Hard. I only get 70-80% retention on my mining deck, so my daily reviews keep increasing.
>>
>>144528059
Here
http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=18035
>>
>>144528130
Consider the possibility the reason you failed to learn new words from Flyable Heart wasn't because you didn't mine, but because you only read it for like 10 minutes a day most of the time.

Also, how can you introduce 13 new cards a day and take over an hour? What the fuck?
>>
File: 1460648091563.png (65KB, 229x173px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1460648091563.png
65KB, 229x173px
>>144528130
>>
>>144528272
No one cares you piece of shit hang yourself.
>>
File: reviews.png (226KB, 716x807px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
reviews.png
226KB, 716x807px
>>144528206
This is just for my mining deck. Core5k reviews are about 10 minutes. DOJG review is only a few minutes per day, but I have to read 10-15 pages in the book for the 3 new cards so that takes awhile.
>>
File: imouto.jpg (9KB, 225x225px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
9KB, 225x225px
鮎が食べられないなら

鮭を食べればいいじゃない
>>
File: fish201310.jpg (853KB, 1500x1000px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
fish201310.jpg
853KB, 1500x1000px
>>144528532
鮭...
香辛料は?
>>
>>144528532
魚かな
魴鮎鮖鮑鮗鮃鮒鮓鮮鮠鮟鮨鮫鮴鮭鮪鯉鯀鯒鯑鯏鯆鮹鯨鰉鰆鰈鰒鰊鰛鰍鰄鯵鯖鯣鯢鯤鯔鰯鰥鰰鰡鰭鰤鰺鱆鰻鱈鱇鱒鱠鱧鱶鱸
どっちだろう
>>
>>144528702
>Fish kanji

Nope
>>
>>144528532
tfw you will never learn all the kanji for various animal species
>>
>>144528532
滅茶苦茶ことは言うな。だって、鮎は魚の王様だわ。
>>
File: imouto.jpg (19KB, 448x336px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
19KB, 448x336px
>>144528702
はんぶんくらいしかわかんにゃい
>>
>>144528875
できない
>>
>>144524830
I went through something similar other than the grandfather thing. Ended up dropping out of medschool, now I'm a 25 year old NEET who's still shit at Japanese, but I guess at least the doctor related flashcards are mature enough that I don't see them more than once a year. Best of luck to you.
>>
海賊の仲間割れで、サメの餌って事だろ
>>
File: imouto.jpg (16KB, 321x241px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
16KB, 321x241px
>>144528662
しいたけと、バターで、ホイル焼きにするよ

べっ べつにおにいちゃんにたべてほしくなんかないんだから
>>
>>144528875
半分くらいはすごいとおもうわ
俺は鮎、鯵、鮮、鮫、鮭、鮪、鯉しかしらない
>>
>>144529278
Didn't you know 鯨?

I figured that was one of the more common ones
>>
File: VN rec chart.png (4MB, 1100x3829px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
VN rec chart.png
4MB, 1100x3829px
>>
Is finishing core 2k enough to watch kids anime without subs?
>>
>>144529391
Nope, for some reason I've only ever seen クジラ written in katakana.
>>
>>144529458
Probably not
>>
File: 1463897374163.jpg (127KB, 602x474px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1463897374163.jpg
127KB, 602x474px
>>144529410
My rec chart is better than your rec chart
>>
>>144529458
Understanding shit raw is only like half based on whether you know the vocab or not

I have 11k mined vocab, on top of the 2k words I did in core, and I just barely understand like 3/4 of your typical SoL show, and that's after quite a lot of practice

If you want to understand raw anime you have to practice your listening comprehension not your vocab
>>
>>144529458
It's enough to understand what's going on quite well. I've switched to watching all my shows shows raw if I get to them before the subs drop, and I have a good handle on what's happening.
>>
>>144529568
>2k is enough to understand japanese quite well
wow, guess I'm done

thanks everyone!
>>
Why do I find it so hard to find good VNs

All I want is a nice VN about cute girls doing cute things like in my animus
>>
>>144526893
いや、自分が食べたいものなら自分で釣りに行けよ
俺に押し付けんな
>>
えろげを読むこと、私は日本語を勉強する。
それに日本はおもしろい国、だから勉強を。
私はいつからたびに出ましたい。これまで正しかったか?

まあー、どうせ日本語が習わないでしょう?ジャストファックマイシットアップ。
>>
>>144529780
Did you even read the post anon was responding to?
>>
File: 1446207657510.png (300KB, 469x540px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1446207657510.png
300KB, 469x540px
>>144529780
>he doesn't know english
>>
>>144529901
大体の意味ぐらいは通じたが、正しいとは言えないね
まだ先は長いぞ、兄ちゃん。
>>
>>144529860
Probably bad taste on your end.
>>
File: kotori3.jpg (133KB, 603x628px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
kotori3.jpg
133KB, 603x628px
>author wrote 身を結んだ instead of 実を結んだ

is it a mistake? or does it have some deeper meaning?
>>
File: imouto.png (131KB, 1140x1024px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.png
131KB, 1140x1024px
Gでた!

たすけて!

なんでもするから!
>>
File: 1432433645532.png (128KB, 500x281px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1432433645532.png
128KB, 500x281px
>>144530067
t-thanks
>>
>>144530098
I'm sure I'd enjoy any VN, it's just I'd rather play anime SoL style VNs but they don't seem to really exist that much, or at least I never see people mention them
>>
>>144530259
My condolences.
>>
>>144530112
>or does it have some deeper meaning?

Well pretty hard to answer that without any context.

身を結んだ sounds erotic
>>
>>144530067
意味が通じるなら別にいいだろう
正しい文法なんてクソ食らえ
大事のは相手がボクの気持ちをわかるかわからないのか
それしか要らないさ
>>
File: yui4.jpg (91KB, 720x720px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
yui4.jpg
91KB, 720x720px
>>144530373
the context was really long and stupid so I elected to leave it out

but it was spoken by a character and used exactly like 実を結ぶ
the context did involve a ダッチワイフ and potentially some alien corpses and some plans involving them that might "bear fruit" but I'm not sure if that has any significance to 身 or what

sometimes I feel I'm missing some sort of education on how to interpret kanji in this language, or confirmation on exactly what the process of choosing them entails or exactly how deliberate a switcheroo like that one might generally be
this same book pulled 震感 on me
>>
>>144504172
communicate with the nurse with your eyes and learn morse code
>>
>>144530712
>the context did involve a ダッチワイフ and potentially some alien corpses

lol what the hell are you reading


Either way, Japanese people can make typos too, probably a good idea to not overthink it
>>
Fuck, I guess I'm gonna have to save up and buy the anki app. I miss studying everywhere I go, I miss studying when taking a shit and my anus dries up and it hurts when I wipe.
>>
File: 1469107426930.webm (3MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1469107426930.webm
3MB, 1920x1080px
>>144531055
its the apple tax, deal with it
>>
>>144531055
Just use the website
>>
File: qwe.jpg (144KB, 1318x1082px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
qwe.jpg
144KB, 1318x1082px
How do I solve this problem /djt/? There are 2500+ due
>>
My mom assumed 幼女戦記 was like a Japanese version of Schindler's list or Anne Frank's Diary or something when I described the plot to her as "a Japanese man is reborn as a young girl in Nazi Germany" and commended me on reading it. I didn't have the heart to tell her the truth.
>>
>>144532085
I've recovered from 2500+ and even greater backlogs inside one day before. The trick for me is to do it in little chunks with breaks in between. In my case I decrease total remaining cards by 100, take a 5-minute break, repeat. You pretty much need to set aside an entire evening for this though.

The other option is to just get the skip today's reviews add-on and deal with a slightly higher than normal workload for two weeks.
>>
>>144532154
That looks prtykwl, is it hard?
>>
>>144530674
いや、よくないっしょ。文法とかそういうことの問題じゃない。言いたいことがしっかり相手に伝わっていなければそれは本当の心の通い合いとは言えない。気持ちとかそういうあいまいなものだけじゃだめなんだ
>>
>>144532203
Yes. It's an actual novel (not an LN) and it's aimed at adult readers. I'm having some trouble with it and I'm pretty high level.
>>
>>144532243
Lame, I probably wouldn't have a chance with it then, I'll keep it in mind for when I'm a nihongo master
>>
>>144532154
Is it Jewish crap about killing Hitler and sabotaging the Wehrmacht or does he fight on the side of good?
>>
File: imouto.jpg (138KB, 500x750px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
138KB, 500x750px
せいりてきにだめ

みぶるいする

Gみたくない
>>
File: 1467842739109.png (162KB, 560x555px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1467842739109.png
162KB, 560x555px
>>144532098
>>
>>144532180
Thanks, I was half expecting troll responses.

I assumed the skip today's reviews addon was a bad addon. It just sounded like a "don't do work" addon. But if it can spread them back out over a number of days I might try that. I've never used any addons that modify when cards are due though. I wonder if I should just do the hard thing and review them all normally.

I really want to get a proper schedule and plan down, to get it back under control, say by the end of the month. If I don't have a plan to stick to, I don't know if I can ever get them down. So the former sounds more tempting, since it would give me a set amount to do each day again. But if I do it once, I could get into the habit of skipping in the future, which seems like a bad habit.

I had something like this happen before, I just made a new deck (the 2016 one) and capped the old decks, never adding new cards to them. Eventually they came down over a period of months. I don't really want to do that again because a lot of the words in 2016 are quite new and I mined them all myself, so it's stuff I do want to know in the near future, but the thought of going through 2500+ cards is so intimidating.
>>
>>144532459
If you install a lazy add-on it'll become a crutch and you'll abuse it.

Set your daily review limit to something like ~1000 and finish that many every day. If you want to do more, go ahead, but make sure you finish those reviews every single day.

After a week or so you should be back on schedule.
>>
>>144532377
Gってなんだ? じろじろ?
>>
What's 英梨々? My understanding is that it's related to the British but I just need to know what it really means.
>>
蒲鉾を食べてみたい
>>
File: Untitled.jpg (104KB, 645x499px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Untitled.jpg
104KB, 645x499px
これはさきほど誰かに訳しっていっかい確認がほしい
「挟む」正解か?
>>
>>144532986
It's a cultivar of fruit known as the English doublepear. I don't have one on hand but you might be able to find pictures of it on google.
>>
File: 英梨々.jpg (82KB, 500x500px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
英梨々.jpg
82KB, 500x500px
>>144532986
>>
>>144533074
何を言ってるかあんまりわからないが、「はさんどこう」は「挟んでおこう」を略した結果だと思うよ。
>>
>>144533103
I did search images for it in Google and the only images that comes out is related to this slut >>144533124 and I don't even watch her animes.
>>
>>144533153
ありがと
俺の日本語はくそだよね
>>
File: imouto.jpg (22KB, 600x337px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
22KB, 600x337px
>>144532819
なつになるとでてくる

あくいのかたまりだよ

>>144533011
どーしてかまぼこなの?

>>144533074
なにかとなにかのあいだにおいてとどめておくことは

はさんでおくだよ
>>
>>144533215
Imouto help me: >>144532986
>>
>>144533190
its her name
>>
When doing Anki vocab I am finding myself reading and understanding the word rather than recalling the Japanese word and actively translating it. It's much faster this way so it kinda feels like I'm just trying to power through the set and be done with it. Is this a good sign that I'm learning or is it a bad habit to get into?
>>
>>144533215
かまぼこはおいしそうだよ
からといって材料とか味とかぜんぜんしらないけど
>>
>>144533214
ああ、初心者なら当然のことよ。だが凹まないで頑張ればいつか上手くなれるよ、たぶん。
>>
>>144533316
can't really understand what you are saying but sounds like it might be a good sign
>>
>>144533325
食べたことあるから言えるけど、結構美味しいと思うよ
ただ、大嫌いな人もいるらしい
>>
>>144533316
You need to be able to recall the meaning and the reading. Whether you recall the meaning through English words or picture or memories doesn't matter. Don't got through your reps with a silent mind, you should be saying the reading to yourself.
>>
File: imouto.jpg (82KB, 596x597px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
82KB, 596x597px
>>144533325
ふだんたべるのは、かにかまだよ

かにかまはすごくよくたべられているとおもうよ

>>144533386
お正月の縁起物は、きらいじゃないけどおいしくはないかな
>>
>>144532986
it's a character's name

it's pronounced えりり

梨々 is also a name
>>
>>144520476
Isn't it translated by ex-working designs people?
WD basically wrote fanfics over other people's games and are pretty much responsible for inspiring all the cancer we see in video game translations today. Every time I remember them I feel more motivated to learn Japanese.
>>
>>144520476
>戦る気

what
Is it supposed to be やるき and if so, I didn't know you could use 戦 for やる
>>
>>144522950
私も
>>
>>144536187
はーいチーズケーキ一口食べてあげる~

わ~いチーズケーキじゃなくて私の精液でした~残念~
>>
other than the first thousand jouyou kanji ordered by grade, is there an official order to the jouyou kanji taught in japan?
>>
File: koolkustomkanji.jpg (38KB, 632x477px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
koolkustomkanji.jpg
38KB, 632x477px
rate my custom kanji
>>
>decide to learn japanese (yesterday) because why not
>start by memorizing the hiragana
>using that one online tool
>doing perfectly
>change the font
>can't recognize half the characters
>>
>>144536532
There used to be but there isn't anymore I don't think

You can use kanji kentei levels if you want
>>
>>144536575
欲學, 可學!
>>
I wonder, do Japanese people see their own writing system as cumbersome and inefficient as we do?
If they do, are there any movements to modernize and simplify it? Or are they proud of it because it makes it harder to learn for filthy gaijins?
>>
>>144536558
It's shit

I like the look of having 言 in the middle like that though, don't get it much, only recall it in 獄
>>
>>144536823
>獄

I always smile when I focus on that kanji because I imagine some unfortunate fellow caught between angry cats and dogs growling in his face and biting him.
>>
>>144522838
How about a tool like Capture2Text?
>>
>>144536880
I always smile at 嬲 for the same reason
>>
>>144536721
Do you ever see English spelling and pronunciation as terribly inconsistent?

Like seriously there are practically no solid rules for how a word's spelling will relate to how it's pronounced. There are general guidelines at best.
I really feel sorry for foreigners trying to learn English that would have to put up with this bullshit, especially considering English is the most common second language in the world.
>>
>>144536721
They grow up with it so I doubt they hardly even see it as a problem

It's not like there's nothing but disadvantages to kanji either, there are plenty of aspects that makes using them beneficial
>>
File: 肉便器.jpg (96KB, 724x720px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
肉便器.jpg
96KB, 724x720px
>>144529410
>text hookers
>>
>>144536721
Many young Japanese will tell you they don't like Kanji. Dunno about old people
>>
File: 1461948765583.png (602KB, 963x720px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1461948765583.png
602KB, 963x720px
>俺達の記憶を基準にするならここは遠い未来だけど、俺達の肉体を基準にするならここは現代なわけだ。

I don't get the second part here. Context: People wake up, no memory of anything except history up until the 21st century. They see something that shouldn't be possible in the 21st century.

>If they did something to our memory, then this is the far future
>If they did something to our body (???) then this is the present

Or something like that? I don't get what the body has to do with anything
>>
>>144536721
As someone else already said, do you frequently think about English pronunciation being changed so it makes sense, or abolishing capital letters because they're really unnecessary? Japanese people have more important things to care about than a language they already know, the same goes for any person with regard to their native language.
>>
>>144537155
I don't mean the rules and exceptions. I mean the very basis of the writing system. English is really easy anyway.
I'm talking about why are kanji still used, when they have kana which reproduces the syllables in a word just as well, and doesn't have you memorize thousands of kanji. There are homonyms in every language, but their meaning is effortlessly determined from the context.
And in its turn, kana itself is excessive. All syllables can be replaced by a combination of consonants and vowels. That would help to reduce the number of characters used in writing by a magnitude, like in languages that use alphabetical system.
>>
>>144537311
If you use our memory as a base this is the distant future, but if you use our bodies as a base it's the present
>>
>>144537354
>English is really easy anyway.
A Japanese person would say the exact same thing about Japanese
>>
>>144537365
Ah that makes much more sense, thank you.
>>
>>144537323
Well, as a non-native English speaker, I often think English could do away with articles. But I guess you're right, I don't often think about my native language in that way. But then again, it's writing system is also alphabetical and isn't nearly as complicated as Japanese, so I don't think it's in a dire need of any more simplification.
>>
>>144537354
Most Japanese seem content with their current system and are probably not going to be in favor of changing it for the foreseeable future. If you're not willing to deal with kanji, you're fucked. Kanji isn't really the hardest part of the language either, just the most visually intimidating one.
>>
>>144537428
Would they really? They probably spend an extra year or two simply learning their own language compared to the western world.
>>
>>144537474
Don't japs leave compulsory education earlier than most countries in the west?
>>
>>144537458
It's more of just the easiest excuse for quitters. 99% of people who attempted to learn Japanese give "kanji" as the reason for quitting.
>>
File: 1459609751772.jpg (57KB, 292x292px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1459609751772.jpg
57KB, 292x292px
>It's a "japanese would be better if there was no kanji" thread
>>
>>144537474
All this talk about what's easy or hard...
In a sense, I feel japanese is easier, or more specifically, more free than english.

There's no prepositions of the sort and everything feels more image/concept based.

I've been practicing moon sentences for less than a month and they feel way easier than english, which it took me probably years to stop typing in broken english (and even now it's still not perfect).
Besides the times I pick wrong verbs or words/concepts, there doesn't seem to be something like "broken japanese", just "that's a really weird way of saying that".
>>
>>144537545
Hey, I may quit even before that. Don't bully kanji.
Maybe it's because I'm an engineer, not a humanities or linguistic graduate, so the whole concept of kanji seems really excessive and redundant to me personally, especially when they came up with kana later.
>>
>>144537655
>I've been practicing moon sentences for less than a month and they feel way easier than english, which it took me probably years to stop typing in broken english (and even now it's still not perfect). Besides the times I pick wrong verbs or words/concepts, there doesn't seem to be something like "broken japanese", just "that's a really weird way of saying that".
I don't have a reaction image for this.
>>
>>144537620
I'd like to think no one actually believes that

The language would look ugly and boring as fuck in kana only

I love kanji, even if they are a giant pain in the ass and make up like 75% of the time spent learning
>>
>>144537545
if it weren't for kanji they'd probably give up after encountering non baby level grammar or realizing how much vocabulary they have to learn anyway.
>>
>>144537655
>there doesn't seem to be something like "broken japanese", just "that's a really weird way of saying that".
I find it hard to believe the Japanese would agree with that statement.
>>
>>144537765
with that logic i bet you're an american trained """engineer"""
>>
>>144537655
汝欲認簡語, 學文言文.

>>144537797
吾也無之.
>>
>>144536532
There's no particular order after kyouiku kanji, they learn the rest by reading.
>>
Let's summon いもうと so we can ask him what he thinks of kanji

おいで~おいで~
>>
>>144537814
they don't, vocabulary does. any idiot can learn their 2k kanjitachis in 2 months of jerking off to meme-onics. doesn't mean they'll be able to read.
>>
>>144537961
>Vocabulary does

Yes, but kanji makes the vocab learning process longer than usual
>>
>>144538004
That's true, learning both at the same time is harder.
>>
>>144538004
Not him but "making learning vocabulary take longer" and "making up 75% of learning japanese" are pretty different dude

If 75% of your Japanese studying is dedicated to studying kanji, or even vocabulary in general, then you're doing it wrong. Tragically wrong.
>>
>>144538106
Was maybe a bit of an exaggeration, maybe not for the anki addicts in this thread though
>>
>>144536721
They already simplified some of them to questionable results, no idea where else would you want them to take it, but I have no doubt that any further "simplification" would lead to something terrible.
>>
>>144536558
smartphone kanji
>>
>>144538178
That's what they call a Freudian slip, ankifag
>>
>>144538400
>Freudian slip
Thanks, I'll have to add it to my anki deck
>>
>>144538106
learning vocabulary as a beginner is much better than wading through baby shit looking up words and grammar every 2 words and asking dumb questions here.
>>
>>144538611
>studying japanese only consists of vocabulary study and reading native material
oh boy
>>
>>144539455
Considering it's my 3rd language I think I know how to learn.
If you're one of those retards who read grammar books or, worse, textbooks, you are either wasting your time or just too dumb to learn grammar while reading.
>>
>>144539568
If you're the kind of beginner you're describing, the one that has struggle with baby shit, then you should spend more time on grammar than vocabulary. If you are better than the beginner you're describing you should spend more than on reading than vocabulary. In no case should you spend the majority of your time on vocabulary.

>3rd language
It's so adorable you think that's worth mentioning, oh man
>>
>>144539718
>than
time
>>
>>144539718
Except I'm not a beginner, unlike you apparently since you think that grammar takes a significant amount of time to learn compared to vocabulary.

Or like I said, maybe you're just too dumb to look things up while reading and understand it without studying it on its own.
>>
>>144540096
>Except I'm not a beginner
I really hope you weren't counting English in those three languages you've learned.
>>
>>144540234
Whatever helps you feel better about your stupidity, kiddo.
>>
>>144540307
>grinding the basics through reading because you dont like grammar guides
ishiggydiggy
>>
File: 1469202783115.jpg (109KB, 599x435px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1469202783115.jpg
109KB, 599x435px
>>
>>144540511
>grinding the basics through reading because you don't like Rosetta Stone, WaniKani and Genki
Same logic
Don't feel bad, there are plenty of other idiots who can't handle "just" learning and have to avoid challenge by reading guides. You are not alone. I'm trying to help you realize that it's not actually necessary, but it seems your head is a little too foggy to comprehend this simple fact.
>>
File: 1441120331150.jpg (81KB, 312x488px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1441120331150.jpg
81KB, 312x488px
>much prefer manga over VNs
>but OCR is a pain in the ass to use
Back to Flyable Heart it is, then.
>>
>>144540754
Are you seriously saying <1 month learners should sacrifice efficiency for the sake of feeling better about challenging themselves? Jesus Christ dude. Honestly in your case I don't think there's further need to, you seem plenty challenged already.

But please, do continue telling people to ignore every learning method aside from anki droning and reading hanahira on repeat until you're fluent if that's your jam.
>>
Quick someone come up with a mnemonic that'll help me forever be able to differentiate 掠める and 竦める

I've been getting them mixed up in anki for far too long
>>
>>144541213
Learn radicals, you stupid sack of fucking shit. You use your hands to steal shit, while crouching and cowering are just forms of standing.
>>
>>144541083
I don't read shitty VNs, but I see how people who spend their time doing that would find that whole "learning" thing difficult.

When I started out I read a bit about basic particles. Since this is /a/ I expect people to at least recognize the most basic of grammar and there is no reason to waste time reading guides for the rest when you can look it up as you go. It's not like vocabulary where if you can't read the kanji you have to look it up by radicals or draw it.
>>
>>144540733
やめろぞい子ちゃん!
大好きだ!
>>
>>144541307
I know radicals I'm just bad at mnemonics
>use your hands to steal shit
I didn't even know 掠める could mean to steal shit to be honest, I've only ever seen it mean to graze or skim across something
>>
Today I did Anki for 26 minutes and then I read a visual novel for 2 hours and 35 minutes.
>>
File: 1464882784722.png (419KB, 1072x1920px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1464882784722.png
419KB, 1072x1920px
>>144541739
>>
>>144541739
Should've done Anki for 3 hours and 1 minute.
>>
>>144541739
Should've done Anki for 1 minute.
>>
>>144541739
>read a visual novel
You should just give up on life
>>
Today I did Anki for 0 minutes, masturbated for 46 minutes, cried for 15 minutes and shitposted for roughly 450 minutes.
>>
>>144541739
Should've read that visual novel for 3 hours and 1 minute.
>>
File: zawarabi.png (114KB, 566x829px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
zawarabi.png
114KB, 566x829px
I edited a mincho font someone recommended to me to make a font good redistributable font for using in kana decks.

https://mega.nz/#!8JkymDia!5dA2fI9tPMIycxQTZ7uKLGAjAyPsYKIxu2SQviL1Hbk

"Why not use IPA Mincho?" Because IPA Mincho is unbalanced in ways that make absolute beginners have a harder time recognizing gothic and kaisho kana (bear in mind that the canonical form of all japanese characters, the 教科書 form, is very similar to kaisho and not to mincho).
>>
>>144541739
What visual novel are you currently reading?
>>
>>144542198
>to make a font good redistributable font for using in kana decks.
to make a redistributable font good fur using in kana decks*
>>
How did japanese do numbers before Westerners showed up
>>
>>144542423
Probably 一二三四五六七八九十
>>
>>144542423
零一二三四五六七八九十百千万億兆京垓秭
>>
>>144542548
>垓秭
mined.
>>
>>144542423
壹貳參
>>
>>144542548
>10⁴³
For what purpose?
>>
>>144542730
Useful when counting the number of dicks your mom has taken
>>
>>144542781
ひどいやけど
>>
>>144542781
Savage
>>
>>144542964
関西弁か、「酷い火傷」を言っているか判断できない
>>
>>144543023
関西弁の場合は、「ひどいんやけど」
>>
>>144543023
Pah didn't even realise that
>>
>>144543023
俺も関西弁だと思った
>>
>>144542423
一 十 百 千 万 億 兆 京 垓
>>
Any anons with experience in chinese?
>>
>>144543470
Yeah sweet and sour chicken balls are pretty dank get some of them
>>
>>144543470
I once accidentally downloaded a VN in Chinese. Does that count as experience?
>>
>>144543590
How far into it did you get before you realised something felt off
>>
>>144543580
Damn you made me hungry
>>144543706
I think it does
>>
>>144543706
The first line. My computer is set to Japanese locale, so the Chinese showed up as random symbols and weird looking kana. I came here to ask what was wrong and people told me I downloaded a Chinese translation.
>>
>>144543470
maybe, depends on what you want


is there something to read for punctuation or are they included in grammar guides?
>>
>>144504055
I wish I were you, but just for the japanese part, not the small dick part.
>>
>>144519657
you're a nigger

>>144519752
this guy is a bro/10
>>
So I've taken 4 years of Japanese and one of that year was in my university which was upper division, forgot a good chunk of it though.

Is there a decent method of practicing Japanese on the phone that isn't flash cards? Never really learned well with those. All I really need is new grammar and vocab.
>>
>>144544115
ひどいやけどやねん
>>
>>144544403
I watched raw hentai on my phone last night and I think it went pretty well
>>
>>144544403
>So I've taken 4 years of Japanese and one of that year was in my university which was upper division, forgot a good chunk of it though.
So you're at the absolute beginner level, huh? Start reading, boy.
>>
>>144544685
Yeah I'd say no better than 1st grade at BEST.
>>
愛刀二おかしな名を付けられた身としては、他人事とは思えない。

上の文の「愛刀」は何ですか?
>>
reminder that grinding vocab is supplementary to learning a language, and if you are spending more than 40% of your time grinding anki over reading/using the language then you are just wasting time
>>
File: 1456856489240.jpg (532KB, 640x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1456856489240.jpg
532KB, 640x1080px
>>144546232
I was with you until you pulled a percentage out of your ass.
>>
>>144546449
I think you'll find that percentage is backed up through years of scientific research
>>
>>144546787
If it's not 50, 65, 71, 80, or 95+, or a negative thereof, a percentage won't show up in phenomena.
>>
>本人はますます渋面になり
What is the purpose of using the verb stem of なる here? Google gives me nothing.
>>
>>144547166
Becomes? Are you retarded or something?
>>
>>144547257
How does it differ in meaning to using なる instead of なり?
>>
>>144547303
なり is like なって
>>
>>144545027
文脈がないこの野郎。
とにかく、想定だけど恐らく刀の名前だ。
おかしいな名ってもあるんでしょ
>>
>>144547655
Sorry, in what way exactly?
>>
Anyone can rec a good OCR Kanji lookup for android devices? I'm frustrated at having to lookup radicals in order to find the right kanji. The one I found in the 'mobile devices (old)' doesnt recognize the raw mangas stored in my phone but detects the translated ones for whatever reason.
>>
>>144548497
ocr manga reader
nothing else is even relevant
>>
File: imouto.jpg (142KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
142KB, 1280x720px
おはようおにいちゃん

しらんできたよ

いいあさになりそう
>>
>>144548632
>>144548632
That's the one I have. For some reason it doesn't recognize the raw mangas I have but detects the translated ones.
>>
>>144548879
then try to identify why it's not opening the raw manga folders
>>
>>144548497
I was also looking for one but like many, I couldn't find anything better than OCR Manga Reader.

There IS one that seems a bit better from the little I tested, however it isn't free - Yomiwa.
You can get a free week of the premium features (which includes an OCR which seemed nice in the 2 images I tested it) but I forgot to test it more along the week so meh.

If you're more of a patient type though, I'd recommend picking any dictionary you want (Akebi for example, pretty good) and Google Input, then setting it to japanese.
Then you scribble whatever you think it is and google magically figures that for you.

Surely it's a pain when you don't know like 90% of the kanji but when you don't need to look that much is sorta nice - I also think it helps my retention since I have to draw it, sometimes more than once.

Anyway, in case you test Yomiwa please tell your input later, I'm still considering buying it if it's OCR (and other features which I already forgot) are good.
>>
>>144499479
Anime name?
>>
>>144549429
meme-chon
>>
>>144549429
呑々日和
>>
File: 8248124683.jpg (43KB, 600x450px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
8248124683.jpg
43KB, 600x450px
昨夜はピザーを食べりながら、テレビでスポンジ・ボブとテニスの王子様を見た
>>
>>144513428

I was tired of meme translations and when I bitched about it people only said to learn japanese.
>>
>>144551011
I guess now you know they're not meme translations after all.
>>
>N1模擬試験完了しました
Got 155/187 with 53/61 in 語彙/文法, 55/63 in 読解 and 47/63 in 聴解. Feels good to be honest

Thanks to the anon who informed me of the test test collection, if you're here
>>
Is RTK worth doing all the way through? I'm 1k in and I feel like at this point learning random kanji won't help me as much as mining ones I find through reading and learning them in context.
>>
>>144552677
It isn't even worth starting.
>>
>>144552677
If you don't do RTK all the way through you might never learn important kanji like 呎 and 浬!
>>
>>144552815
I expected this reply
>>
>>144528702
Is it just me or do all of these fish kanji have the 魚 radical?

I think there's got to be something to it.
>>
File: 025.jpg (81KB, 430x391px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
025.jpg
81KB, 430x391px
>>
>>144554794
source
>>
File: ぞい.png (203KB, 523x393px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
ぞい.png
203KB, 523x393px
>>144554794
>>
>>144554755
>鯨
>fish
>>
>>144528702
>鯵
>鰺
thats cheating!
>>
>>144551698
>47/63 in 聴解
Watch more anime
>>
>>144554794
Which h-artists/writers have you seen employing 振り仮名 in their compelling content? I really enjoy that.
>>
聞いたの、NEETたち。this new guy's voice is annoying, I miss core dude #1
>>
>>144555296
I will for sure
>>
>>144555591
Which 暗記声優 is your favorite?
>>
File: 万歳.png (229KB, 374x342px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
万歳.png
229KB, 374x342px
>>144555644
>>
>>144555644
>that kanji means anki
>Anki = the programs name
>Anki = memorization
>Anki, the program, helps you learn to memorize things
holy shit my mind is blown
>>
>>144555012
Its kanji contains the fish radical. So it's a fish.
>>
>>144556265
What about 蛙
>>144556099
Same goes for rikai sama
>>
>>144554794
that's an awful filtered background
>>
>>144556265
>144556265
Does たこ switch from being a fish to being an insect if I write it 蛸 instead of 鮹?
>>
The old third year textbook had SMAP and "Sekai Hitotsu Dake no Hana." They finally got with the times.
>>
>>144556933
I like Daylight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fILiIOG5Iaw
>>
>>144548734
おはよういもうと、元気かい?
俺は数年前からたまにここに覗きにくるけど、なんで妹ちゃんいつも来てくれるんだろうってずっと思ってたんだ。

詮索ですまないが、ここにくる経緯を教えてくれないかね
>>
>>144555644
Core5k girl is best.
>>
Hey, /djt/.
Started learning kanji today. What is the importance of the "on" reading of the kanji? Is this important to know in instances where they're using borrowed words?
>>
>>144555115
Hey I don't actually know what most of the kanji mean or anything, I just コピペ'd all of the kanji with the 魚 radical on the left.
>>
>>144556331
Apparently also a fish.

>>144556392
I suppose?
>>
>>144558736
Learning vocab is a more efficient use of your time. Only study an individual kanji if you are having a hard time remembering a vocab word. The on reading is the original Chinese pronunciation I believe. All kanji have at least 2 different ways to say them.
>>
HELP I'M FORGETTING JAPANESE
>>
>>144559399
How often do you study
>>
>>144559184
I'm afraid that I'm just confused on the lexicon here. So if vocabulary and kanji are not synonymous here, how do I go about learning the vocabulary? I've been studying words for a while now, just using the hiragana/katakana forms.
>>
>>144559736
anki core2k/6k deck.

RTK if you have difficulties with kanji vocab words in anki.
>>
>tfw can barely handle 20 new words a day
>>
>>144559801
Haha, I'm downloading it right now as we speak. I happened across some kanji flashcards from a colleague, so I figured those would be the same as the Anki cards. Checking them out now. sorry for the newbie questions.
>>
Holy shit I read 4 whole hours of compelling content today. My brain feels like it's on fire right now. O thou compelling content, why are thee so compelling?!
>>
File: 1.png (81KB, 210x336px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1.png
81KB, 210x3