BLACKED

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>>144484930

Is this guy a rogue Kai who stole Future Goku's body?

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>>144484930
>Another evil clone type character
Cell is the best villain.


Cell>>>>Black

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>>144485076
> Future Goku's body

Black does seem to have a heart problem like Goku did.

Maybe after Future Goku died, he was given back his body for being a hero (like in the present timeline). And being dead allowed him to meet Kaioshin Zamasu

Freeza>Black(so far)>Piccolo Daimao>Buu>Commander Red>Cell>Pilaf

>>144485322
shit taste
Cell>Freeza>Majin Vegeta>Piccolo>Majunior>Vegeta> General tao>Black>Majin Buu>Super>Kid Buu>Etc>Raditz

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>>144485287
Is Black a Time-Breaker?

Maybe they'll introduce Towa and Mira. That's why they flashbacked into Future Trunks vs Dabura (Towa's older brother).

Also they'll probably make Future Trunks (and hopefully Future Mai) join the Time Patrol.

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>>144485466
Why else introduce the concept of time travelling being against galactic law?

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>best DB villain
>any answer other than freeza

>>144485287
>Zamasu

But Zamasu is from universe 10.

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Freeza is best villain. Vegeta was too.

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>>144485093
> had DNA from the greatest fighters ever
> only resorted to using Solar Flare and Kamahameha. And a one-time SBC as Imperfect Cell.

Why didn't he use spirit bomb? Freeza's planet-busting death ball? Big Bang Attack? Wolf-fang fist??

Why didn't he abuse Piccolo's regenerative abilities, with Saiyan's zenkai??

>>144485436
>shit taste
>Cell first
Irony the post

>>144485806
>Cell not the best
Delete your account

Why americans are so obsessed with Cell? He's not a great villain at all.

>>144486074
Because he's not a villain

>>144485287
He doesn't Goku just kicked him really hard in the chest, also he hasn't done that sense.

>>144486074
Probably because they didn't read/watch the original Dragon Ball, the initial dub of DBZ/Toei ruined Frieza character and they thought DBZ was serious business hence they obviously didn't like Buu. Which leaves only Cell.

>>144485579
>>144485729
Glad some people have good taste here
https://a.pomf.cat/isqjtj.webm

>>144486369
*Since

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>>144485322
>>144485436

Honestly I think Beerus was a great villain/antagonist.

Definitely a refreshing take on the typical "I want to destroy/rule the universe!". Not to mention actually beating Goku in the end of BoG (first time a movie/saga actually ends with the good guys losing?)

Beerus was just doing his job. Cocky, but pretty funny too. But cross him, friend or foe, and you're dead. He has a certain charm that's missing in other antagonists.

>>144485579
> best DB villain

OP said "intriguing", not best

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>>144486408
> the initial dub of DBZ/Toei ruined Frieza character

How so?

>>144487076
And than they overused him and he lost his charm

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>>144485598
Maybe you can cross universes in the Kai/after-life realm?

How else does Zamasu know about humans (which only reside in U6 and U7)?

>>144487076
>villain
>Beerus


>>144487152
Watch the Kai dub, original dub and compare.

>>144487458
>Beerus

Same can be said about Piccolo, Vegeta, 18...

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>>144487170
eh..he still doesn't give af

>>144488231
Not really.

>>144486074
Cell dindu nuffin wrong. He wuz a gud boi.

>>144488347
>hurr hurr guuuys so funny right?!
Not really, you can stop posting this every thread now.

>>144488414
this
Cell just want to fight like goku

>>144488444
>every thread
>exaggeration much
kys faggot :^) nice digits though.

>>144488450
Which makes his motivation to be a villain pretty lame

>>144485744
because only people with pure hearth can use spirit bomb, educate yourself before making stupid posts like this

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>>144486074
Why are mexicans so obssessed with GT?

>>144488820
I know that. He could easily make his own evil spirit bomb with Freeza's negative energy

>>144485744
Spirit bomb can only be used by GOOD people, cell is not good. I think he used a Big Bang attack against 16, but since that was such a short fight... ya. Would have been nice if he used more attacks.

Zenkais aren't as good any more because the power levels are so damn high now. The only time it really worked with Cell was when he blew himself up.

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>>144488862
> Cell blew himself up
> Regenerates with Piccolo's cells

So can Piccolo suicide bomb too?

>>144488935
Cell had everyones skills on steroids so no.

>>144484930
Do people not recognize Vegeta as that guy who killed all those people at the World Tournament?

>>144489019
They forgot about Goku who won a few times in the tournament too. Not to mention, the only green slug guy who has once tried to take over the world. People in DB have short memories.

>>144489019
Didn't they wish for people to forget the Buu Saga? So that Buu can hang around with Satan?

>>144488935
self destruct was either from the androids or Chaotzu as funny as that sounds

>>144488823
It has a great dub. Almost every anime from 80's and 90's had a great dub in Latin America.

>>144489233
but regeneration? picolo culdnt regenerate if his head was damaged

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> Goku/Vegeta loses to Beerus
> Goku/Vegeta technically lose to Freeza
> Goku/Vegeta lose to Hit

Maybe Trunks will beat Black? He will train with Vegeta, so he could get SSB soon

>>144489288
Latin America's DBZ dub was very good too.

They don't believe in censorship, and the acting is top-notch.

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>>144489357
>He will train with Vegeta, so he could get SSB soon
SOON

>>144489357
>Goku/Vegeta loses to Beerus
>Goku/Vegeta technically lose to Freeza
>Goku/Vegeta lose to Hit
and yet the Goku and Vegeta show meme exist

>>144485744
Zenkai only seems to kick in when he's close to death and triggers the ability from Frieza's race to survive mortal wounds.

So, to manipulate that, he'd need to basically blow himself up to basically a nucleus repeatedly.

Besides, Cell's too vain to think he needs to improve after becoming Perfect.

>>144489724
To add to this, there are limits to zenkai boosts. Past a certain point a saiyan no longer powers up from them.

The question is, why the fuck does some random ass Kaioshin wants to destroy freaking Earth and all of the Saiyan race?

And if he hates the Saiyan race so much, why is he impersonating as one?

Fuck, Toriyama, the hell is wrong with your plot?

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I want Raditz back.

>>144490144
>being this stupid
wew

>>144488820
>>144488862
He can use a green Spirit Bomb in the games.

>>144486074
Well it's not because of >>144486408 this for sure. I'd postulate that people really like Cell because they consider the ending of his arc a good point where the city could have capped off and finished. And I really can't blame them for that because I can see it myself. Don't listen to anyone who tells you "people liked Cell because they misunderstood Dragon Ball and that's why they didn't like Buu!" because that's uh

Well that's just retarded.

>>144490468
>the city.
Sorry I meant the series. Holy shit I'm sleepy.

>>144488820
>>144488862

Cell actually claimed that he could use the Spirit Bomb. It'd be useless though. He'd only be able to use the Freeza Saga version at best (nature's energy, with no extra energy given by willing people) which would be worthless against anyone above Freeza. No one would let him charge it up either.

>>144490546
>claimed that he could use the Spirit Bomb
maybe in amerifat version

>>144490468
>Cell is a good villain because the arc he was involved in seemed like a good conclusion to series
>not because the character himself is a good villain

Now that's retarded.

>>144490596
Cell claims it during his initial encounter with Piccolo, Kuririn and Trunks, right before escaping. It's in the manga.

>>144488935
Probably, Vegeta can do it and i don't see why everyone can't just use their power to explode themselves and everything around them.

POST MAI

Since the other topic is dead...

https://twitter.com/DB_super2015/status/756005953183502336

http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/news/news2016072101.html

We're getting an extended version of the Revival F movie, airs 28th August, Tv Fuji, about 12 extra minutes based on the running time. The only confirmed new scene right now is an extended remake of Future Trunks vs Mecha Freeza.

>>144488935
>So can Piccolo suicide bomb too?
Piccolo needs his head in order to regenerate, Cell has a combination of Piccolo's and Freeza's (able to survive even in small pieces) abilities.

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>>144490853

>yfw vegeta goku and trunks get trapped in the future when they go back to fight black
>black travels back to the present and the z fighters have to be useful for once while gohan trains to beat black

>>144491133
It could happen. But it's going to end with Goku and Vegeta coming back to save the day.

>>144489656
>Goku/Vegeta technically lose to Freeza

Vegeta won, Frieza just blew himself up

Gohan is going to save the day. Just you wait. Any day now.

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>>144490974
>extended version of the Revival F movie
Please Toei

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>>144490974
I want a training montage.

>>144485744

Not sure if bait or speedreader
He used Tien's multiply, Destructo Disk, Special Beam Cannon, Kamehameha, and Final Flash

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>>144491296
Freeza survived that, Whis still sensed him after Earth blew up.

Freeza technically won, but only lost because Whis wanted his fish sausage.

>>144491433

He must by default run up the stairs !

>>144490691
Hey now. He asked why people might like Cell. I cited a very strong reason as to why they might like Cell. People can like an antagonist because of the ongoings of their associated arc. Part of what essentially makes the central antagonist of a storyline IS the ongoings of their associated arc.

>>144490691
The dude that post was in response to asked why Cell was so popular. So the response in question was still pretty valid.

>>144490974
> extended version of the Revival F movie
> about 12 extra minutes based on the running time

OH SHIT

I wonder if they'll add Tagoma-Ginyu or Gotenks?

>>144489422
There was a little censorship in the DB dub. Mostly the sexual dialogue. The violence, OST, and even the scene where Yamcha accidentally grabbed Bulma's boobs were left untouched, though.

>>144491854
> where Yamcha accidentally grabbed Bulma's boobs were left untouched

Hell, they even had that scene in a DB commercial (one of those "coming up next" ones)

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>>144491642
>>144491687
>I cited a very strong reason as to why they might like Cell.
Not really it was a pretty stupid reason. Especially since most people liked the Artificial Human arc because they thought it was a good conclusion to the series (pic related) not because of Cell himself.

>>144491791
I really hope they add back the bit about Freeza's army hiring super mercenaries that was in Toriyama's original script and was cut from the movies.

It's due to fighting them that the main cast is supposed to get tired, rather than just random soldiers.

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>>144487170
You chat shit m8?

>>144488935
cell can survive being in small pieces thanks to being like freeza (see: RoF for freeza being alive after being sliced by trunks sword)

>>144492127
There is something off with gohan's tits.

>>144491433
only if its done like pic related. no RAAAAGH golden freeza in space blowing up meteors shit. it has to be a rocky montage

>>144489288
Taco-lander here. The GT dub was indeed really good. But all that means is that it was very faithful to the source material. GT was still shit and I don't know anyone who liked it around here.

daily reminder super is shit and the movies are better

RoF is being broadcast with added footage

literally NEVER watch the BoG or RoF super arcs

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>>144485744
> had DNA from the greatest fighters ever

> Why didn't he use Wolf-fang fist??

BHAHAHAHA

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>>144492673
Agreed

>>144489533

>yfw SSB Trunks will catch the attention of Future Beerus and he'll destroy Earth anyway

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>>144489656

>>144484930
If you seriously like a an fanfic tier villain like Black then you are definitely an underage. Fuck off

>>144492715
Volleyball fist then?

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>>144492916
Black is a better villain than anything GT gave us

>>144492772
desu i loved that shot, dunno if it even makes sense but it looks cool

>>144489656
Who are the ones allowed to do shit in Super? Vegeta and Goku, no one else.

>>144492911
is that real

>>144493082
tbqh fampai gt had good ideas for villains

baby - race that got btfo by saiyans and wants revenge
super 17 - ok i give you this one it was dumb
dragons - turns out dragon balls arent supposed to be abused like that old kaioshin said

>>144493215
Beerus
Whis
Bulma
Jaco
Piccolo
Mai
Bulma's father

Pay attention

>>144493313
Baby was okay

Super 17 encapsulates everything wrong about GT

The Shadow dragons was a cool idea...if only they had more people fighting the 7 dragons instead of Goku, with Pan tagging along being useless.

But I was also talking about the villains themselves. Like Omega...his personality was so very boring

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>>144493344
Don't forget Monaka, also remember the people trying to make Monaka appear badass.

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>>144493215
>>144493344

And Future Trunks. Presumably Kid Trunks and Goten too, since they're now in the end of the new OP

>>144493313
GT definitely had some good ideas. But the execution is so terrible that they all went to waste.

>>144485466
why is he so perfect?

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>>144493926
> dat smug

Also Nozawa is perfect for Black

>>144494094
She should definitely do villains more often.

>>144494094
The dub is gonna annoy me, they're probably gonna have Sean do his SS4 voice which doesn't fit the character.

But what if Black can turn into SS4?

>>144494246
I hated Sean's angsty SS4 voice

Why did he so that? SS4 Vegeta did it too, but it was less obvious as I was too focused on his super mullet

>>144486074
Cell games was the only tournament arc for those of us who grew up without Z
bitches love the tournament arc

also >>144486408
is partially right
in the states we got DBZ only, so we only saw SERIOUS BUSINESS which is why we hate BUU, cell was next strongest villain so people love him most

>>144494314
Well it's probably because of his range is so limited, i was watching the Berserk ova's last night and he was just straight up doing the Goku voice.

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>>144494279
at most he will have a white god super saiyan
a call back to xicor and a call back to baby vegeta having white hair

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Anyone else happy SSJ2 is getting all the love lately?

Why does Trunks has blue hair?

>>144494510
Yes, it's my favorite SSJ design.

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>>144487152
>>144487458
>Watch the Kai dub, original dub and compare.
Especially this scene

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>>144494812

Good taste.

>>144495157
Freeza using his species language in the original dub was funny as fuck, when all he was doing was laughing in the Jap dub.

>>144494395
Sabat is the same way. Though he has some decent range, most of the time he falls back to his Vegeta voice. I recently watched the dub version of Film Z just to see how Funi did with the voice acting. It was all right, but I couldn't listen to Zoro or Usopp without picturing Vegeta/Piccolo and Krillin.

>>144485466
>>144485566
Black is Zamasu.

By visiting Zamasu, they're about to make Black. Zamasu will probably be disgusted by Goku's bullshit around Gods

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>>144495582
This is Krillins VA, also his Piccolo has gotten worse for me.

>>144495829
>used to run some shitty animu fanpage back in the day
>got in contact with him for an interview
I can't even remember what I asked, but I'm sure it was a bunch of shitty questions. Fuck I'd hate to imagine the type of shit he got from every idiot with a Geocities/Angelfire/Tripod page back in the day

>>144493344
Who are allowed to do shit in fights? Beerus and Whis are ditched to the side because they are too cool for that shit, now we want dinner.
Bulma makes shit, I give that. Jaco is a meme that hasn't appeared in like ten episodes, Bulma's father sppears on blue moons.
>>144493534
>And Future Trunks. Presumably Kid Trunks and Goten too
FTrunks is going to job, Goten is written out of the arc because muh test and I bet Kid Trunks is just going to spend the rest of the arc sulking because Mai is wet for FTrunks.

>>144496507
Trunks/Kid Trunks' VA said that Kid Trunks would get some development too though, maturing through this arc, after being confronted with his future self.

>>144486408
>>144494339
>in the states we got DBZ only

Dragon Ball aired that next year alongside Buu in the US.

>>144496507
>Who are allowed to do shit in fights?
Z Fighters and Jaco vs Freeza's Army
Piccolo vs Frost
Future Trunks vs Black

>Beerus and Whis are ditched to the side because they are too cool for that shit,
Whis is training both Goku and Vegeta, you know there are other roles characters can fill right? Also they're the reason Goku knows about Zamasu.

>Bulma makes shit,
Yeah only the device that can find the Super Dragon Balls and the other device which will let them follow Black into Future Trunk's timeline no big deal.

>Jaco is a meme
Don't use "meme" as a argument it makes you look stupid.

Jaco is the person who caught Frost cheating and help Goku along with Galactic King figure out Hit's timeskip power.

Bulma's father sppears on blue moons.
He's helping Bulma to fix the time machine, pay attention.

>>144484930
>wants to kill humans and probably has a severe obsession with Goku as opposed to simply wanting to destroy or rule everything

Well his motive is certainly more interesting.

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>>144497188
>Who are allowed to do shit in fights?
Shit, forgot Beerus vs Champa

>>144497272
In the anime it was just a really lazy "punching super faster without going anywhere" scene though.

>>144497994
and?

>>144493313
>>144493458
I have no idea how's super 17 was bad.

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>>144495231
is this image cropped?

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>>144499159

It sure is

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>>144499238
pls senpai, post sauce

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>>144499341

Garland is the artist, anon

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>>144499341
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=57797903

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>>144500236
couldnt you just post it here? i dont have an account

>>144500301
nevermind, i found it thanks to this nigga >>144500154

I've honestly been really impressed with the Japanese acting for Black. He sounds sinister as fuck, yet somehow still sounds enough like Goku to be recognisable, yet totally different at the same time. It's insane.

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>>144500378
Garland is the artist of >>144500154. The artist of >>144495231 is takebuchi.

>>144500498
Black made me appreciate Nozawa more 2bh

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GOHANFAGS WHERE WE @?

RISE UP! OUR BOY'S TIME WILL COME!

>>144500498
It's the same VA

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>>144500544
i searched "Garland gohan videl" and found >>144495231

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>>144499341
>>144500154
>>144500236
>>144500301
>>144500378
>>144500544
>>144500626
guys slow down you are losing me

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>>144500626
Takebuchi probably stole the art. That pic is seen in Garland's gallery

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>>144500626
>GDI Takebuchi

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>>144500603

I'm here brother, the fire rises!

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>>144500722
Garland's art looks better.

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>>144500788

It is, comrade

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>>144500788
His art reminds me of Toriyama's artstyle in the 80's-90's

>>144484930
Black Gohan would have been a better choice. (F. Trunks' master, Goku's son, Goten's brother, Piccolo's disciple )

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>>144501337

Don't do that to Trunks, anon. That's too much.

>>144501337
Noone cares about Gohan enough

>>144501371
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>144501186

Goku-saaa!!

>>144501410
Sorry anon, only Gohanfags still care about him.

>>144501371
That's another reason to make a Black Gohan.

>>144501418
Stop now. It's not funny at all.

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>>144501605
Gohan is done anon, it's not going to happen. Time to let go.

>>144501337
gohan is a sucker, it wouldnt be believable he could beat anyone, they had to go goku or vegeta, but vegeta sucks too

>>144501418
>>144501662
This, stop posting your spank bank.

>>144501662
>>144501739

Samefag. I need those anons to post more DB lewds.

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>>144501701
> Gohan is a sucker
Black isn't Goku but Zamasu who stole Goku's body. So we don't care about that. And F. Gohan is badass

>>144501874

He'd have to steal Future Gohan's one armed body.

Well I wonder why DBfags flocking at 4chan a lot you guys have reddit?

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>>144501827
Use google retard

>>144501922
Gohan one armed body is more badass. It would have been more emotional for everyone to fight Black F. Gohan, especially for Future Trunks.

>>144501974
People like >>144502059

are the redditors lurking here

>>144485744
Dying is so hard for Cell he pretty much has to be reduced to a nucleus to get a zenkai. Remember that he didn't get one when Goku blew half of him up with Instant Transmission Kamehameha.

>>144501922
Wouldn't he have gotten his arm back in the afterlife kinda like how goku got his stomach back after getting hit by the makankosanpo?

>>144501922
>>144501874
Didn't Goku already explain to captain Ginyu why is retarded to steal his body? Goku's body has the raw power but not the techniques, neither the battle experience. Not digging this twist of Zamasu using Goku's body as a meat suit

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>>144502191
I wonder if he could have kept self destructing himself to gain zenkai?

>>144502249
Yeah maybe you're right. But it won't happen. Toriyama isn't original at all, he read DC comics, found that there are Evil Superman and plagiarized this fucking idea.

>>144502356
Probably risky. I don't think he intended to survive blowing himself up. He just happened to have a cell left and was able to reform.

>>144486074
It's because Amerifats are more attracted to generic "serious evil" shit than an effeminate aristocrat and a living bubblegum.

Same reason they worship Broly so much, or why they all got mad because Beerus looks like a housecat.

>>144491036
kek

Why the fuck are Funi beginning to dub Super if they haven't even finished Kai yet?

>>144502176
i bet hes a samefag too

>>144502537
Do you have a source on that? I haven't heard anything about Funi dubbing Super yet.

>>144502176
i asumed there will be (many) more.

>>144502537
It's almost like funi are no talent money grubbing hacks who only care about getting autismbucks from dubfags

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>>144502609
Beerus VA posted this scene from Ep 1 on Instagram with the caption "HE'S AWAKENED" which pretty much confirms they've at least started working on it. That anon is wrong though since they've been finished with Kai for a long time but for some reason haven't shown it yet.

>>144502842
I wonder if the dub will play down Goku's retarded personality that Super seems to have cranked up. He was always simple minded, but Super turned him into a legit mental retard.

>>144501337
Indeed. We would've seen Gohan's potential. And the reaction when F. Trunks met Present Gohan would've been amazing.

>>144502842
I wonder if they will dub the filler parts like that pink vegeta clone or skip it like the manga did.

>>144503076
>a legit mental retard

That figured out Hit's times skipping power when Vegeta couldn't

>>144503175
He's a high functioning retard when it comes to fighting.

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>>144502842
He already deleted that, also from Chris Sabats twitter

>>144503230
>he's a retard except when he's not, but he's still a retard

Nice nonargument.

>>144503304
Ever heard of high functioning autism?

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If Goku died in trunks universe, how come he didn't just come back from the afterlife like he always does?

>>144503304
Messi uses his autism to be the best football player in the world

>>144503340
Yes I have and outside of the lol autism meme it's entirely different from how Goku acts.

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>>144484930
Dragon Ball had a better Black.

>>144503408
Toriyama forgot

>>144503408

He'd get a heart virus again and it would be extremely painful

>>144503538
He's a dead guy

>>144503408
Wasn't he only allowed to for a day or something in the Buu saga? And that was after 7 years of schmoozing with the Kais. I'm also pretty sure that his entire family would have been dead by the time he got permission to return to Earth from the Kais, so why even would he at that point? Maybe to save Bulma I guess, but perhaps there's a reason on his end why he hasn't and maybe that reason is why this whole Black thing happened in the first place.

>>144502356
You can't get Zenkai through self inflicted damage.
Cell probably got Zenkai from his self destruction causing a chain reaction, making King Kai's planet explode.

>>144503408
Because the Dragon Balls are gone. Pay attention.

>>144503701
>Wasn't he only allowed to for a day or something in the Buu saga?
That was because of Baba not the Kais also she's most likely dead.

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>>144484930

>>144503408
Trunks could have resurrected everyone. But Furure Goku and co would be weak as fuck.

Super doesn't make sense at all. They said (in Episode 50 I think) that time travels weren't allowed since a small change in Present would affect Future. Then Present and Future are linked, and then why nothing has changed in the Future (Cyborgs were defeated).

>>144504339
I know, anon, it is very difficult living in modern times with a sub 100 IQ. I feel for you, I really do.

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>>144504339
Stop being retarded

Expect the unexpected, gohan will defeat black goku.

>>144504482
You must be a genius or a total retard to understand this illogical shit.

>>144504922
Sorry you're retarded anon.

>>144497188
>piccolo vs frost
yeah because that sure was a useful fight that made Piccolo's entry in the tournament worthwhile and wasn't taken away to satisfy vegetafags.

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>>144504339
Okay let me explain the time lines
Trunks Goes to the past the first time line on the top finds the deactivation blue prints of no.17 and 18 goes back to his time line uses it on his androids and he gets the time machine ready to tell every one the good news , but cell killed him and went to the past ultimately creating the third time line. Now this is the time line with the Trunks we are familiar with just like the original time line Trunks he went back in time and ultimately created the 4th time line the one with the whole majin buu and the gods arc takes place.

>>144505275
So there's another reason to the Z warriors death ? Goku didn't die from heart attack in the Future, the others weren't killed by the Cyborgs ?

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>>144505148
Piccolo has one of the better fights in this U7 vs U6 tournament (well in the anime version) using various cool abilities like his stretchy arms and the afterimage move, breaks Vados's barrier which tanked causal blasts from God of destruction Champa, even Frost himself says if Piccolo landed his Makankosappo he would have won.

>W-well he didn't win
Fuck off, I'm a Gokufag and you don't see me crying that Goku lost to Beerus twice, Freeza, Frost and Hit.

>>144505275
>all those non canon movies and GT
Trash

>>144505540
>>all those non canon movies and GT
It's out dated still waiting for quaman to update this chart, but it's simple to the point
>>144505463
You mean in the first time line the original time line Trunks went into? We are not sure, either majin buu kills them or not but yes the first time line Goku is alive and well so the most. part.

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>>144500603
Here's your dear Gohan anon

>>144504482
When Trunks gave the medicine to Goku and came back to the Future (Storyline 2 after 784) shouldn't Goku and co be alive ?

>>144490546
Best answer

>>144493009
>earth's greatest warriors
>imply Yamcha made the list
I wasn't aware Yamcha even had fans or that they were this delusional

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I know these scenes were filler, but was his changed personality not in the manga?

>>144486408
>that FotNS style music
Damn that's good

>>144506218
I think being thousands of times stronger than the average person makes you one of earth's greatest warriors, even if there are others millions of times stronger than average humans.

>>144496773
Damage was already done

>>144489357
Why was BoG such a goddamn good movie? It should be illegal to make such perfection and end up with Super

>>144506823
Because faggots will watch anything that has DB and Toriyama's names in it.

>>144505937
cute

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>>144507041
Even this ?

>>144494428
sup spic?

>>144507082
Especially that

>>144507082
>>144507138
Arale is just comfy gags.

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>>144501186
>>144501418
silly goku
chi chi was so lonely
she had to turn to her son for affection

>>144488823
I can assure you that only latino weebs are obsessed with GT

>>144506597

I watched the original DB here in the states as a kid, before DBZ on Toonami. Goku was called Zero.

>>144488823
>>144507961
You are insecure as fuck, because spics are licking Toriyama's dick for Super, saying it's the best anime ever and shitting on who disagrees. /a/'s autistic threads feel like that. I think a newpaper's weebside writes weekly sumaries for Super or some shit.

>>144501186
sauce!!

>>144487152

What about the Abridged Dub? Did that ruin Freeza?

>>144509779
Nah, DBZA Freeza was pretty good

>>144509779
Does abridged even count since it's a fandub?

>>144498670
>In hell, somehow, two scientist make a new android of 17, without parts, labor or any tools, called Hell Fighter 17, queer name, but stay with me
>Oh, never mind the fact that 17 himself not a Robot, but an Android and has a human body, so where did the get the body that looked exactly like 17, I don't know
>Somehow, Hell Fighter can mind control 17, from hell. You'd think if that's possible, it would happen more often
>17 proceeds to beat the fuck out of Trunks and Vegeta
>Then Hell Fighter and 17 fuse, and somehow makes a big Android 17?


It's a stupid fucking villain, and I liked Baby Vegeta and the Shadow Dragons.

>>144510350

Biggest problem is that SSJ4 Goku is weaker than Super 17. It was bullshit.

>>144510594
That too, why would two Android 17's beat SSJ4?

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>>144490255
A Radditzfag? Holy shit. I think now I may have seen everything

>>144505540
>non canon

Super technically isn't canon either since both the manga and the anime simply expand on Toriyama's notes.

Aside from the manga, Dragon Ball has no canon.

>>144510350
>>144510620
If Green Kai stole Goku's cold corpse ir even more stupid explanation he stole his body in the otherworld Super 17 is going to gave a rival in the asspulls competition and funny thing you are going to defend it.

>>144492872
>future Beerus

* 1. SSB is stronger than Beercuck

* 2. Trunks is from Universe 7

>>144511067
>If Green Kai stole Goku's cold corpse ir even more stupid explanation he stole his body in the otherworld
That would be stupid, that's why I think it's Goten.

>>144511109
You are going to trigger the shitposters.

>>144511109

It being Goten is even dumber than it being a dead Goku.

>>144488231
No Anon Beerus HAS to do bad things. He just so happens to love doing said bad things and isn't totally consumed by it.

>>144488450
What about him absorbing and killing all those innocent towns of people? Or that army of people?

>>144510854
>Super technically isn't canon
Quit being delusional both the anime and manga of DBS is canon.

>>144511161
Why?

>>144511375
That clearly isn't true. They both handle Toriyama's notes differently and make changes to the characters.

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Of all the non-dragonball Toriyama series, why is dragon quest so good?

>>144511504
cause it's consistent

>>144511504
You speak like he wrote DQ

>>144511375
>both the anime and manga of DBS is canon
No, the events that happen in both are canon, but the things that are unique to either format are simply official, not canon.

>>144489809
No its a percentage and thats why he got significantly stronger from his near death by Gohan. I read a fan theory a while ago that thought Zenkai was a method the body used to bring someone close to SSJ so i like to believe that. I also believe the same thing with Gohan and SSJ2.

>>144511487
>They both handle Toriyama's notes differently and make changes to the characters.
and Toriyama approves both of them. Deal with it.

>>144510768
Are they going to retcon Goten's girlfriend out or would she show up in Super one day?

>>144510594
It's sorta implied that 17 was mind controlled when they merged into Super 17, and that the original 17 left himself wide open so that Goku can kill him.

>>144511745
Also, why was 17 the exact same way he looked at the end of DBZ, but 18 aged?

>>144511790
18 didn't age, she just changed hairstyles and started wearing more conservative clothing.

>>144511790
Mom-bod

>>144511881
Oh, you're actually right.

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>>144511881
Yeah, kinda noticed that more on Heroes' PV/movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5UtpUTbmlE

Reminds me of how retarded and awesome the designs of the androids can be.

>>144512031
I love SSJ4.

>>144511646
Toriyama simply looks over Toyotaro's work again after its finished. He doesn't look over anything with Super. He just gives them notes and character art. The Black Goku arc was also an editorial office idea, so he may be even less involved than he already was.

Toriyama also provided initial character art for GT too, just like he does with Super. Face it, Super's manga or anime isn't canon to Toriyama's manga.

>>144506218
First, that's tien

Also I was joking. Same with the wolf-fang fist post earlier

>>144490468
Shut up retard.

Will Vegeta ever get his moment?

EVER?

>>144511904
>>144512031
She and Videl were the only women who looked great in GT. Poor ChiChi had that forehead and Bulma dressed in unflattering dress. Maybe if the animators weren't busy jerking off to Pan, ChiChi and Bulma could've been animated better.

>>144512088
SS4 would've worked better if Goku was an adult who transformed into SS4 to regain his physical prime.

>>144512421
>Maybe if the animators weren't busy jerking off to Pan
Can you blame them?

>>144512364

He already got plenty of legendary moments.

>Teary confession about his past while dying
>Turning into SSJ
>Epic speech to Goku about pride
>Final explosion

>>144512444

>plenty of moments
>All him getting cucked

>>144511067
> stole Goku's cold corpse

You know Goku's a hero right? Hero's keep their bodies in the after-life, where it's possible to meet kais

>>144512364
He already got his moment during the tournament when he dominated Frost, Cabba, and Magetta. What more does Vegeta need? A Super Saiyan God over Kaioken moment?

>>144512487

How did he get cucked about his speech to Goku or about his confession?

Why is Trunks in such a god damn rush when he has a time machine? Train as long as you want idiot.

>>144512501
>You know Goku's a hero right?
I know what you mean but:
Goku isn't a hero, but he ended protecting Earth.
Now fighters in the otherworld keep their bodies, but a physical form that they left their corpses in the mortal realm.

>>144510854
>being this delusional

Toriyama himself calls Super a continuation of his own manga.

>>144512251
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-06-03/dragon-ball-super-teases-future-trunks-arc-with-story-intro-new-visual/.102813
>Original creator Akira Toriyama is plotting the story and designing the new characters for the arc, including Future Trunks' design
Deal with it or keep your delusions to yourself.

>>144512523
Vegetafags still want him to beat/kill the main antagonist of an arc even though he has more kill count than Goku.

>>144491480
Why can Whis do this? He looks preoccupied with something trivial like introducing Beerus to cheesecake.

>>144512523
>implying u6 tournament is relevant
shits just glorified filler, pls

>>144512904
Whis is just extremely lucky. He moves without thinking, and somehow blocks everything 100% of the time

>>144484930
Have they replaced the stupid tautology of "super saiyan god super saiyan" etc. with "saiyan god" and "super saiyan god" yet?

>>144513105
It's always been "Super Saiyan God" and "Super Saiyan Blue" in the anime/manga

There was a small gag with SSGSS in the manga though

>>144486074
The only thing that i complain about him it's how fast he dropped the whole tournament thing. Would be great if he actually have fought/killed every warrior at that place one by one until lasts only Goku and Gohan but instead we had that literal asspul called Cell Jrs.

>>144513229
Thank fuck for that (and to you for informing me). That this part of the story actually has a medium without the movies' asinine nomenclature makes the world seem a slightly less shitty place.

Now if you'll excuse me I have a basement to dwell in.

>>144512364
Is there anything worse than manlet worshippers?

>>144513074
Retard pls

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>>144513239
>asspull

>>144513105
SSGSS is super saiyan blue in both manga and anime now. It's still dumb but too late to fix it.

>>144513361
People who are massive butthurt at the mention of his name?

>>144513479
Yep, that's all the post I replied to did. Just mentioned him.

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>>144490853

>>144513763

sauce?

>>144513959
http://p.twipple.jp/user/nagiraiun

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>>144513763
nice pic
Guess working for Pilaf helped in this case

>>144490853
have another new one

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>FUTURE TRUNKS WILL SACRIFICE HIMSELF USING THE TIME MACHINE TO MEND THE TIMELINES.

SCREENCAP THIS

>>144512659
Holy shit, now that I re-read my post it doesn't any any coherency.
*The fighters in the other world don't keep their mortal bodies, they keep a physical form, their corpses stay in the mortal real.

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>>144514695
>Implying this arc won't be the beginning of the Time Patrol

>>144514695
Fuck off, he will live happy with Mai and have shit ton of babies with her. Stop with the timelines meme. It doesnt make sense.

Toriyama will never allow Toei to kill off Future Trunks.

>>144514695
The timelines fix themselves. That's why Black got pulled back to the future; the rift he traveled through sealed itself.

>>144514805
>Toriyama will never allow Toei to kill off Future Trunks.
yet he allowed them and the toyble guy to kill of f bluma

>>144514804
Too bad Time Patrol Trunks is Present Trunks.

Traveling through time have consequences, and he will pay the price.

>>144514958
>Present Trunks.
Did you miss the sword? Besides Time Patrol Trunks is stated to be Future Trunks.

>>144514958
>Too bad Time Patrol Trunks is Present Trunks.
Yeah, that's why he starts disappearing when Future Trunks is fucked; because he's a completely different Trunks. Makes sense.

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>>144485093
Perfect taste

>>144486074
>He's not a great villain at all.
Of course not. He's Perfect.

>>144514852

The fucker from >>144514695 got a point.

The timelines cant fix itself when using the Time Machine.
Whis was talking before that traveling through time was dangerous. The ring from Black probably is restricted and cant let you stay in another timeline for a long period of time to avoid ltering too much the flow of time.

>>144515029
TP Trunks is known as Trunks:Xeno in the Heroes card game. He's probably different from F Trunks.

>>144492715
>implying yamcha was on that list

>>144515223
>Heroes card game
Non-canon fanfic game.

>Because of the events that happened during the Android Saga, Trunks had wished to atone for his sins, thus joining the Time Patrol
From Dragon Ball: Xenoverse which is based on Dragon Ball Online a game that Toriyama worked on.

>>144514695
>>144514958
>>144515192

Just Fuck off already guys. If you ant to talk about suffering and time travel fuckery, go shitpost in a Doctor Who forum.

Future Trunks wont die in a shitty way to "mend" timelines. Whats the point of him dying like that. He still has to save Mai and the future timeline.

>>144484930
The obcession with the word "Black" makes you look 7 times more weak than the normal.

You'll gonna die pacific.

Jesus, Super seems awful

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>>144510768
> anyone but Gine

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>>144514695
>not offering to suck dicks if that shit doesn't happens.

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>>144514695
Nah, pic related will happen

>>144490546
Why does anyone ever allow anyone with attacks that have Spirit Bomb-tier charge times to use them?

>>144514695
>A character seriously dying in Dragon Ball

Yeah, sure thing guy.

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>>144515976
Sa-sauce?

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>>144515811

>>144515976

in badly need of sauce

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>>144500603
I like him better for shota but I'll stand with you.

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>>144515976
could always be more lewd

>>144516319
They're always distracted.

>>144516471
>>144516525
>>144516627
http://dangerousbride.tumblr.com/post/147677723957/someone-had-to-do-it-%E3%83%84

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>>144484930
Tao Pai Pai ws a better villain than any of this garbage.

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>ultra saiyan will never be relevant