Danganronpa

>>144469021
Gozu.

Where the fuck is Togami

How much would it cost to pay some dude to read the DR novel to me?

>>144469071
Toko's rape dungeon.

>>144469070
But then how will Naegi get around?

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>>144469071
He'll appear in Mirai-Hen at some point according this this promo art

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Seiko is CUTE , CUTE !

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It still hurts guys

>>144469290
Yeah RIP

>>144469230
Can't wait to see his interactions with the FF characters. Wonder what he thinks of them.

>>144469234
She isn't she carrying a truth drug with her 24/7

>>144469311
Probably thinks they're a bunch of cunts. His kind of cunt, but cunts regardless.

>>144469311
>You want to know what I think of them?
>Tell him Naegi

>>144469395
I'm surprised that he doesn't ever try to carry an entire conversation through Naegi. He probably could.

>>144469311
He'd probably respect yet hate Munakata because both are power hungry maniacs who want believe their way is best

He'd probably wouldn't give the others much thought

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>>144469234
She's gonna make it, right? She's gonna survive all this bullshit, right?
Asahina's death was already bad, if she dies I'm auto suiciding my own self to death

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Just enjoy the ride

This show doesn't make sense

>>144469465
She's too meaningless and uninteresting to survive. Then again, that didn't stop other such characters from surviving.

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Will they cover all DR0 in just one episode?

>>144469465
Out of her, candy girl and blacksmith, only one of them is surviving at most.

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>>144469596
>One of the couple guys die
>Surviving one kills self because muh love
>Seiko lives
Please

>>144469590
I want to know more about the version of the DR1 cast that agreed to be locked inside Hope's Peak.

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>>144469290
>worst girl comes back from 6 years of irrelevance only to die in the second episode like the trash she is

>meanwhile best boy is coming to save the day soon

Wonderful time to be a Togamifag

>>144469021
DONT FORGET TO VOTE FOR WORST DR2 CHARACTER

http://www.strawpoll.me/10792673/

Hiyoko was vote out alredy, no need to mention it

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UTTERLY AND DESPAIRINGLY PERFECT
REMINDER THAT SHE DID NOTHING WRONG
DESPAIR IS WORTH THE PAIN

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>>144469807
I want to fuck Junko's despairingly tight butthole and her little teddy bear too.

It doesn't matter anymore. The only character I cared about is gone now, and I can watch the rest of the series without tension.

>>144469737
DELETE THIS

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>Brozu is 100% confirmed to die
>Easily the best character in DR3 in merely 2 episodes
He's gonna be ganged up by Boxer and P4 protag saving Naegi. Save me from this ride of DESPAIR

>>144469737
Togami is more or less the best guy in DR1
Behind Weedman

>>144469201
He'll hop a ride on not-Monoca's sweet ride.

Will Bandai and Asahina appear in the theater with Chisa tomorrow?

I hate vague talents like "class president" used just so they have an excuse for "they're good at everything"

>>144469465
embrace that DESPAIR anon.

>>144470029
I've been waiting for exactly that to happen all week, and will be very disappointed if they don't.

>>144470029
No

>>144470086
He'll probably have another talent which he entered with.

>>144470149
Why would you think that? It's completely baseless.

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I am excited for tomorrow

>>144470149
"Super High School Level Fuckwad"

>>144470029
I could see that happening since they have the counter goin g down in the opening.

>>144470168
There was another ultimate student council president in Zero. They could either accept one ultimate president a year, or accept an ultimate with a different talent who then becomes the ultimate high school level president.

You're right, it is pretty baseless, it's mainly just hope that they wouldn't be that lazy.

>>144470208
>Sonia in the background

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>>144469465
You can either embrace the despair or let the fact that she will die will mortify you.

>>144470250
As long as they're in different years, it doesn't matter. There's a new Ultimate Lucky student every year.

>>144469021
my vote goes to animator or the boxer

inb4 the attacker doesn't realize they're the traitor and monokuma's message activates his or her brainwashing

>>144469465
its seems she has a secret past, so until they reveal that she is safe

>>144469234
I just wanna hug and kiss her

>>144470276
Good point, I think in my head Lucky Student always seemed like a special case.

>>144469465
She was a traitor. A traitor never lives. You should have known that

>>144469776
WTF why all that Teruteru hate? He was a cool guy. He made the first chapter very memorable

I want so much Chiaki pandering tomorrow.

>>144470468
Thanks for reminding me that there actually is a character I hate enough to bother voting for.

>>144470468
Too perverted, too annoying and generally childish.

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So what are the chances Chisa is the traitor?

>>144469465
>Her redemption will be she sacrificing for candy ass bitch

If this happened i will stop watching the serie. Shit why do worst non deuteragonist girls always survive?

>>144470468
I dont think he is. And if he is, at least he isnt Hifumi or Leon.

>>144470468
The hate for him is most likely leftover hate from his case.

>>144470539
No, Teruteru sucks. I was really glad that he was the first killer, so I didn't have to deal with him as long as I did Hifumi.

>>144470468
I'm not 12, so I don't find "pervert" characters very funny.

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>>144470488
I'd be okay with that.

>>144470539
>hating a guy that love her mother enough to kill for her

I dont know many people in a situation like Teruteru that keeps its cool so much time. He was stronger than he looks.

>>144469021
So it's clear that:
>Murdered
Chisa
Asahina
Seiko
Gozu
Scout

>Killed by poison (breaking the NG code)
Bandai
Blacksmith
Boxer

>>144469230
whos the guy with red eyes?

>>144470708
I wasnt big on Chiaki and Hajime in DR2 but I kind of want that now.

>>144470730
Blacksmith seems to easy to avoid, though. He just has to not eat her candy.

>>144470571
That's fine. I'll agree with you on Hifumi though.

>>144470718
He just wanted to see his mama again.

>>144470751
Hajime.

Blacksmith has so many fucking death flags it's not even funny.


>>144470788
Reminder that her bio says her candy is addictive and she'll shove it in his mouth and he'll forget about his NG code.

>>144470788
MACAROON! OK? MA-CA-ROON!

>>144470527
It'd be really fucking lame if they did another body double or just outright put a fake corpse in again.

>>144470871
It's possible though. You know, because everything is being taken as a fucking red herring

>>144470871
It's not like there's a super doctor or nurse to guarantee that she's dead. Could be faking.

>>144470774
Same, but mostly because Chiaki was sweet as hell and I did not expect her to show up in Zetsubou-hen at all.

>>144470871
>again.
I don't know why I typed that. I don't think they've done this in the first place, but it would be stupid.

>>144469776
>Naegi getting so much hate

Why you all faggot hate weeaboo Joker so much?

>>144470965
Killer Killer did it

>>144470965
Isn't there an Ultimate Make-up artist in Killer Killer that made one?

>>144470488
Fuck off

>>144470991
KK is Kodaka sponsored trash

>>144470965
I honestly think it'd be great. Despair Chisa sounds really hot.

>>144470751
It's obviously Izuru

>>144471029
I don't actually read it, so I'll have to take your word. It still appears to be canon, from the plot summaries

>>144470947
>>144470948
I think it'd be way more interesting (and likely) that the other arc will reveal that she knows something about who the traitor actually is which would give him/her a reason to want to take out her first rather than anyone else.

>>144471029
That's a weird way of spelling Danganronpa

>>144471032
Same for Despair Chiaki. Or Kirigiri. Or a lot of them, really.

>Dangan Ronpa 0 manga never

Are novels really that popular in Japan? Why isn't it all manga?

>>144471094
And then it doesn't and the entire reason Chisa is the MC is so we know her motives for killing the FF.

>>144471092
Killer Killer is better than anything DR related as of recent. It's worth the read. The first two chapters were decent it only starts getting shitty when they announced it was a DR Gaiden

>>144471172
Novels are pretty popular man.

>>144471172
DR0 is short, and can be all cover in just 2 episodes

>>144470208
What emotion is Nagitos face trying to convey?

>>144470730
So how would Kirigiri and/or Naegi die then?

Mutual three-way suicide between Naegi, Kirigiri and Junko?

>>144471237
Novels are lame!
>>144471247
Is it confirmed to be in the anime?

>>144471254
Hope.

>>144471254
Disappointment, that even his cleaning talent is outshined by well-trained hamsters.

>>144471207
Shut the fuck up, Kodaka.

>>144471092
It is, sadly.

>>144471292
yes. The anime will focus on the main events part, when the novel focused on the dead characters

I didn't know the despair half was the first thing Chronologically.
Wew

>>144471371
Yes, but do recall that the despair act is going to be the closing act on the entire series. I think the last episode will be something post DR2.

>>144470260

I just noticed that. She's actually pretty cute when she's fawning over Gundham

>>144471433
http://www.nbcuni.co.jp/anime/danganronpa3/special/index00380000.html
Zero seems to take place near the end of the despair arc and the entirely of future is happening after 2.

>Chisa's hair is original in Despair
>Brown in Future
UHHHHHHHHH

>>144471506
I know. The bulk of everything in despair is going to be pre-DR1 stuff. But it doesnt make sense to have despair go last right after Naegi gets his final HOPE win when we know how it all ends.

I think the last episode or the last scene of Despair will be DR2/post-DR2/postMirai-hen.

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>>144469290
I know. I keep hoping that there's some way she's not dead, but damn, the more I think about it, the less likely it seems that she'll get back.

Only things we really have going for her "revival" is that the door was fixed when they all woke up, and that Kuma somehow had enough time to bolt down the walls of an entire skyscraper. So maybe the killing game is a farce in some way. I'unno, man. I just really didn't want her to die.

>>144471069
>>144470824
i suppose, i didnt think it was Hajime/Izuru because Hajime already shows up in that cast

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>>144471254
"I'm gonna tear dat ass up."

>>144471658
He's gonna be filled with despair soon.

>>144471658
So does Chisa. FF Chisa is grouped with the Mirai Hen characters and Teacher Chisa is grouped with the Zetsubou-Hen characters.

Someone correct me here since I'm not 100% sure I understand the game in 3.

So there is a traitor and that person killed the teacher chick, and that same person woke up during the first sleep period to kill Asahina and will continue to do so unless he/she is killed?

So what exactly is the point of the death conditions?

>>144471806
Assumedly. There could be a twist where the killer is a different person each time on NG code and nobody is willing to die.

>>144471806
To hinder the participants in some way. Supposedly, Persona Man can't open doors. Naegi isn't allowed to run. It's going to mostly be stuff like that. It's a currently a popular theory that Naegi is going to find himself in a scenario where he'll not save someone in time simply because he can't run without killing himself in the process.

http://manlyronpa.tumblr.com/post/147728833732/dr3-musings-juuzou-sakakura

Truth

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I just want these two bakas to make it

>>144471806
The main goal is to make the hope group to be in despair, not just to kill them

>>144470401
Secret pasts are always revealed during trials.

>>144471851
>nobody is willing to die
Well, actually, maybe Aoi Asahina WAS

>>144471927
Am I really on /a/?


(You)

>>144471964

I want to fuck Genocider, Toko too.

>>144471964
Those two are gonna make it just fine.

>>144471866
>It's a currently a popular theory that Naegi is going to find himself in a scenario where he'll not save someone in time simply because he can't run without killing himself in the process.
Damn that would be brutal.

>>144472025
Which is why she didnt get the NG code to kill.

Though that would be a lame twist I think.


It's either the boxer or gozu that is the traitor.

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What if she shows up in Despair? Not as Chiaki or anyone else, just as herself?

>>144471866
>Naegi is going to find himself in a scenario where he'll not save someone in time simply because he can't run without killing himself in the process.
"SORE WA CHIGAUZO"
>hijacks cripple's motorized cart

>>144471866
Oh so you mean if they fall asleep in a closed room and someone dies then they can rule out the president dude because he can't open doors?

Makes sense, just seems kind of dull if it's going to be one person for the whole show. I liked the murders in the videogames because it kept you guessing on what possible motives each person could have.

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>>144471806
If you listen to what Monokuma says, he says there's "basically" a traitor.

Much like how Caitlyn Jenner is "basically" a woman, the statement is suspect.

As the rules stand, this whole "traitor" set up might actually be a situation where there's a new "traitor" every round.

I mean, think about the "win condition" for a bit.

The game is "won" when a night passes with no deaths.

Now, viewed through the "one traitor" rule, this means that you can stop the baddie and save everyone

But have a "different traitor every night" rule, and suddenly the game gets a lot more grim.

>>144471927
It makes sense. People will excuse the remnants for everything just because "muh DR2 waifu" while FF wants to kill their asses off for starting all this shit

>>144472041
>responds with autism

Predictable

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>Pharmacist has her face mask on her sprite
>Gozu has his bull mask on is sprite
>Tanaka THE FORBIDDEN ONE has his scarf on his sprite

>Hotwheels doesn't have her scarf on her sprite
It's probably nothing, but it's weird

>>144472125
Like sure, Remnants of Despair should have been killed.

Then again, Junko has a very specific kind of insanity and Naegi just so happens to counter that.

In any event the Future Foundation is full of cucks and they all deserve death except Moralfag Nurse

>>144472195
She'll probably take it off near the end.

>>144472195
Hotwheels is a meta mystery

The writers know goddamn well we're thinking she's either Monoca or Junko

>>144471567
They're dark times, anon

>>144472195
Why is he the forbidden one? Is that just something he went by in his early days or does the studio not want a lawsuit from sunrise?

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>>144471927
Totally agree with this. Makoto gets too much fucking credit for being a "hero". He's not. I agree with Juzo on this one. That little faggot literally got carried around by Kyoko the whole time. It's disgusting that people even like this guy and even word defend his actions concerning terrorists. People have some pretty shit taste in this Fandom

But knowing Kohacka he's probably going to have the Future Foundation leaders look wrong for rightfully wanting to execute the DR2 cast and punish Makoto because "muh protagonist and his hope" without developing this annoying faggot and have him learn that not everyone see things his way on this retarded "hope is key to life" bullshit

Laughable story and protagonist. Hopefully Kohacka actually does a better job with the next story and protagonist in NDRV3.

>>144472224
Really? Only retards think she's monaka.

>>144472293
In the DR universe hope IS the key to life, that's the whole point of the fucking series.

Anyone find it weird that Monokuma knew to fuck with Usami and turn her into Monomi almost immediately? Unlike DR1, which was globally broadcasted, DR2 happened on an isolated island, so the mastermind must have watched the simulation unfold, or was part of the simulation. My money's on the obvious AI!Junko got uploaded after the events of SDR2, but it still opens up the fact that the mastermind is related to SDR2.

>>144472279
The latter.

>>144472207
>Then again, Junko has a very specific kind of insanity and Naegi just so happens to counter that.

But that's not a good excuse at all

>In any event the Future Foundation is full of cucks and they all deserve death except Moralfag Nurse

For what? Trying to kill off terrorists? What kind of retarded logic is that?

>>144470527
100%

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Yeah, Makoto is way too moralfag for sparing Edgelords who killed millions of people each

But on the other hand, Future Foundation Members are proving themselves to be right dicks and aren't showing any sign of slowing down. They can get fucked

>>144472361
>what is Hajime
>what is Komaru

Fuck off you dumb Makotofag.

>>144472377
To be fair, putting the Ultimate Despairs in the Neo World Program is basically executing the Ultimate Despairs while also saving the 77th class.

>>144472365
Maybe it was an instinctual thing for the Monokuma AI. See a retarded bunny, turn it into your cute imouto.

>>144472125
It's not really "my DR2 waifu" it's more that they're victims just like everyone else and they got fucked over by Junko just as hard as everyone else. They were just normal(as normal as you can get in DR at least) kids that got mindfucked and exploited by Junko.

Naegi knows that and it's why he tried to rehabilitate them. FF and Munakata just want to kill them because they're asspained.

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>>144472361
>In the DR universe hope IS the key to life, that's the whole point of the fucking series.


Yeah if you ignore the other two games in the series where they say Hope is actually fucking dangerous bullshit

>>144472224
And not Chiaki?

Monaca is absurd. She is not Monaca.

>>144472365

DR2 killing game was broadcasted to all the FF facilities / members.

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>>144472377
I'd usually agree the whole "spare the villain" is dumb shit.
But in this instance, I think we're underestimating Junko. The way she's presented is she has a supernatural ability to instill despair into people and change who they are. 77th class were clearly good people at some point, if they can use a machine to revert them to a previous state before they met Junko, why not do it? They could massively help in cleaning up the planet.

>>144472436
>>144472454
Explain?

>>144472502
I thought it was just Naegi's crew

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>>144472361
Did you miss, like, the two other Protagonists in the series who reject Hope?

Did you miss the insane guy whose fixation on Hope constantly gets people killed?

>>144472377
>But on the other hand, Future Foundation Members are proving themselves to be right dicks


They're being right dicks mostly to a traitorous faggot who protected those edgelords who literally destroyed like most of the world

How are they supposed to feel about that to having these monsters BTFO and nearly killing them then some dumb faggot steals them all and goes off protecting them shitting on all their hard work and the people they've lost fighting these murderers.

People keep looking at it through hopeboy's eyes because they don't want their DR2 waifu or husbando to get put six feet under like they deserve and aren't looking at it from the Future Foundation's eyes.

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>>144472377
If the niggas are so against the Edgelords why would they give them a 2nd chance?
Hope Pops seems really chill but everyone else doesn't seem to care 'bout them. Like, the way the Dong Foundation is being portrayed don't seem the kind of niggas 2 give second chances to the Remnants.
RIP FARMER MAN OF ANNOYING VOICES

>>144472545
Have you fucking played DR2/Another Episode?

They outright say how Despair and Hope are two sides of the same coin.

Hence why Hajime decides to focus on the future and Komaru decides to just help people, because Shining Beacons of Hope is how you get Batman and the Joker fighting for all eternity

Hope and Despair are like Ying and Yang you faggots, both are bad and both are good.

>>144472442
That's such a dumb copout answer but no surprise there.

>>144472589
I believe he was being sarcastic, anon.

>>144472446
There is no Monokuma AI. All AI Monokumas have all been puppets for AI Junko to continue being a bitch.
>>144472502
Did it? Wouldn't Naegi's "betrayal" be so much less of a shitshow if FF knew about what Neo World Program was? I mean, Naegi and pals risked themselves by uploading themselves into the simulation, and in the simulation they explained the simulation and its purpose. Naegi is on trial for harboring the Remnants of Despair, and no one in the Future Arc has referenced anything about the Neo World Program.

>>144472622
I played DR2 but I have poor memory.

>>144472545
>Explain?
Komaeda is the living proof that hope can be bad.

>>144472545
>excuse for the Remannts' actions
>"I-I-It was all Junko! Don't underestimate her despair speeches! She'll talk you into destroying the world! You can't fight it man!!!!"

>>144472566
>>144472664

Now, I may be wrong, but I sorta remember Monokuma saying that near the end. Always thought it was being broadcasted to all the FF facilities.

>>144472624
Future a best.

>>144472709
Komaeda is living proof that the FF was right.

Though to be fair to Komaeda I'll give him some credit on being the only one among the Remnants who truly understands what they all deserve: Death.

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>>144472715
So you think they're just bad people?
There's a reason Junko is the main baddie for literally everything.

>>144472459
Literally only the stupidest people think it's Chiaki. I'm talking the absolute bottom of the Danganronpa barrel, and that's saying something.

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Was nice to see this annoying shitter die.

>>144472780
Pretty sure the concept of yin and yang isn't so much that "both are good" as "one creates the other and cannot exist without the other"

>>144472811
Chiaki is a lot more likely than Monaca or Junko.

>>144472802
Exactly.
Everyone of them deserves to die nigga.

>>144472715
She is one of the most intelligent and charismatic people on the planet with a literally infectious ideology preying on a bunch of insecure goofball high schoolers. How is it any kind of leap that someone that convince the whole entire world to erupt into anarchy and convince huge numbers of people to commit mass suicides can't manipulate good people into becoming horrible people?

>>144472814
>Tripfag being a fucking retard
Wow.

>>144469737
Wait a minute. Weedman is supposedly outside of the building and isn't participating in the game. What if Togami is the 16th?

>>144472833
No, she isn't. There is literally 0% evidence that she is Chiaki, and quite a lot against it. Anyone who thinks she's Chiaki has to concoct intensely convoluted scenarios that go against the entire narrative to try and shove her into this role, and it's really fucking inane.

>>144472804
>>144472851
He's baiting, ignore him.

>>144472802
I don't disagree with the FF's view on the Remnants being punished along with Naegi though I feel if they try to make some amends for their actions or try to save the FF and the world, they should at least be locked up for a long time if not for life.

If they refuse to comply or are still bad, then outright execution for all of them and even though I love most of them, I can't say I'd feel sorry for them that much if they decide to disobey.

>>144472811
Miaya actually being Monaca or Junko would be most retarded "plot twist" in the series

>>144472814
Why couldn't he have a normal voice?

Why did nobody give a shit that he died except for that one girl?

>>144472589
>muh hard work
I would understand if the NWP was doomed to fail, or even still in progress, but it's largely already succeeded. All you're doing is arguing for the equivalent of the spite-reasoned death penalty, which does not work.

>>144470208
>you will never teach your pets to clean because you have no talent
Why is my existence so worthless?

>>144472917
It would be retarded, no doubt. But only one one hundredth as retarded as it being Chiaki.

>>144472895
>There is literally 0% evidence that she is Chiaki
That's fucking wrong though because neo world program work.

There is 0% chance for monaca however.

>>144472908
Why would you punish them? If they're reverted back to pre-junko state they would literally have no memories of doing any of that stuff, what would be the point of punishing them?

>>144472905
>baiting
>telling the truth
>baiting

When you have nothing else to say, you run away like a coward. What a joke

>>144472954
That's not evidence, that's a link between two completely separate characters.

>>144472942
Fuck off hinata.

>>144472967
>Completely ignoring Junko as a character
>Not baiting

>>144472945
You really don't think Monaca and Junko being Miaya is more retarded than it being Chiaki?

>>144472945
Chiaki at least has connection to the neo world program and opportunity to become another character since her status is up in the air after future arc for now. Monaca would just be a random asspull because wheelchair and I wont even mention Junko

>>144472920
If he had a normal voice I wouldn't have minded him at all. And yeah it was pretty weird that literally no one cared when he died. I bet they all found him annoying too

>>144472945
It would not.

>>144472839
Yeah the Remnants should all die. Komaeda was right.

If DR1 and DR2 class were to have a full on battle, which class wins?

DR1 gets Mukuro. DR2 gets Hajime minus Izuru Kamukura.

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>>144472629
Really though, there's no reason to punish the RoD if they aren't even the same people anymore. Executing them would just be even more pointless bloodshed to appease the masses.

>>144473017
But why spare Monoca? Fucking Hopeman

>>144472814
#BlackLivesMatter

>>144472945
How did Monaca suddenly become older and obtain a high position at FF so quick?

Chiaki's status is up in the air.

>>144472851
That kind of nonsense wouldn't hold up at court and nobody would give a fuck.

She talked a bunch of weak and pathetic teenagers into destroying the world and instead of resisting they went with it. It wasn't brainwash. They got influenced and chose it.

So yeah the more I hear these lame excuses for these guys, the better

>>144473010
A) Chiaki has to be real, which hasn't been determined as true yet.
B) She would have to have changed her name and her talent, which has no precedence
C) She would have to have programmed herself into the Neoworld program twice, since she's apparently the template for Monomi, which makes no sense

>>144473009
>>144473016
Chiaki is literally the stupidest theory possible

>>144473019
DR1 class had some really strong people.

>>144472890
How would Togami be the 16th?

>>144473094
I'm not making an argument for it being Monaka. That's stupid too, but I'd be more likely to believe that she killed and replaced Miaya than the ridiculous series of events required for it to be Chiaki.

I can't wait until it's revealed someone salvaged all of Junko's memories from when she lost them all in DR Zero and jammed them in one of the FF fuckers. It's never not Junko, when will you cucks learn?

>>144470086
Some talents are just far reaching. "class president" and "housewife" seem to be far reaching shit that means, can do whatever the fuck we want.

Making Chiaki real was a huge mistake

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>>144473100
>A) Chiaki has to be real, which hasn't been determined as true yet.

>>144473019
Nekomaru and big tits could probably carry DR2 cast honestly.

>>144473149
No one has ever presented compelling evidence that Despair isn't another VR. Not once.

>>144473137
Oh anon i know

It'll be Junko in V3 too

I read capeshit it's always the fucking joker

>>144472959
Because they fucking killed people and destroyed the world you literal autist. What do you say to the victims? They let the Remnants get off scot free?

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>>144473100
>A) Chiaki has to be real, which hasn't been determined as true yet.

>>144473164
>No one has ever presented compelling evidence that Despair isn't another VR. Not once.

>>144473129
>ridiculous series of events required for it to be Chiaki.
Such as Chiaki just being alive at the end of despair arc? You do realize there are year gaps here.

>>144473144
Your lack of punctuation is making you too obvious.

>>144473126
People are suspecting FF has been moved to a different, but identical building because of that missing knife in the door. Moving them to a different location would take time. Who's to say the mastermind didn't capture Togami during that time, as well?

>>144473019
Sakura and Mukuro.

>>144473164
Fuck off.

>>144472999
>retard excusing the remnants actions on Junko giving them speeches that they could have resisted if they weren't such weak faggots

I want to see your Osama Defense essays

>>144473098
The entire universe of danganronpa wouldn't hold up in a court.

Also let's not forget things started really getting out of hand when HPA decided they were gonna give free brain surgery to bring about maximum hope. I think anyone higher up who worked at Hope's Peak should be held just as guilty as the remnants.

>>144473185
Miaya and Chiaki share no characteristics. Not in looks, not in temperament, not in talent, nothing. It would require a ridiculous series of events for her to change that much.

>>144473223
Yep, exactly.

>>144473129
Her killing and replacing Miaya would be way dumber than Chiaki somehow becoming mute/paralyzed and getting another talent ("gamer" is kind of a fishy talent to begin with anyway). How would Monaca even impersonate Miaya except by pure coincidence, "because she looked like her", or some other nonsense?

>>144473100
>B) She would have to have changed her name and her talent, which has no precedence
Huh, Junko changed her talent from Model to Analyst in Zero. Junko did both in Zero.

>>144473019
Does this include all potential backup? Kuzuryuu's clan, Gundham's animals, etc?

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>>144473098
You just refuse to realize how powerful Junko is, she basically destroyed the world off ideology alone, she's like Hitler on cosmic steroids.

>>144473154
I don't see them being Sakura, who seems to be hands down the strongest character physically we've seen in DR.

>>144473180
Don't say shit to the victims, let them think they're dead.
Killing them is just out of revenge, it's not do accomplish anything, no one will learn a lesson or be better for it. If they weren't reverted back to pre-Junko then I'd agree, but if they are then it's just masturbation.
>>144473238
>such weak faggot
Who are all either smarter than you or physically better than you. But keep being an internet tough guy.

>>144473144
She is Dangan 2 heroine. If Kirigiri is real there is nothing wrong with Chiaki being real as well.

>>144473098
>That kind of nonsense wouldn't hold up at court and nobody would give a fuck.
Good thing the FF is just a trigger happy kangaroo court since Junko literally destroyed civilization :^)
>She talked a bunch of weak and pathetic teenagers into destroying the world and instead of resisting they went with it. It wasn't brainwash. They got influenced and chose it.
The same logic can be applied to the billions of people who either killed themselves or committed horrible things in the name of the cult of despair. Are you trying to say people who are brainwashed in cults are just weak idiots? Stop being a fucking edgy kid.

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>>144473164
>D-Despair Arc is a VR
>T-T-Technically there is no proof against this.

>>144473036
Again just dumb copout answers on letting literal murderers get off scot free but then again most of the fanbase are terrible people.

If it wasn't the DR2 characters, you guys wouldn't be defending these actions.

>>144473180
>What do you say to the victims?
That they're dead, because they are.

>>144473290
Gundham only gets four devas, Kuzuryuu is on his own expect for Peko.

>>144473154
Mukuro has never received a single hit through.

>>144473270
You got me, that particular argument appears to be void.

>>144473256
Yep, it would be dumb. Still more plausible.

>>144473310
This is literally every response to that theory. It's amazing that people even feel the need to respond with this worthless garbage.

>>144473296
Oh shit yeah I totally forgot about Oogami.

>You just refuse to realize how powerful Junko is
Exactly. Anyone who argues differently hasn't really paid attention or doesn't understand the material very well.

>>144473248
>not in looks
Try inverting her color scheme in one of the promotional shots.

>not in temperament
She has Monomi, and in particular she has already alluded to the fact that she does not enjoy being left "alone". Plenty of room to build into that in the Despair arc.

>not in talent
She was already pretty much acting as a permanent therapist to Hajime in SDR2. If you think a shift to something that was just as natural to her in that game as playing games is outlandish, you've seen nothing yet.

>>144473242
As shitty as HPA was you're literally putting the actions a school did on some kid's head that he consented to to literal mass murderers and terrorists' actions towards the world?

Are you serious right now?

>>144473296
I'm convinced you were defending 9/11 bombers' actions

>>144473346
You post worthless garbage, you get it back.

>>144473270
Ultimate Model was just a cover for her being Ultimate Despair. Her Ultimate Analyst ability in Zero was just her extreme intelligence isolated from the rest of her talents. As she taunts in SDR2, while Hope's Peak was trying to create the ultimately intelligent human, she already existed at an intellectual level of an Ultimate Ultimate.

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>>144473379
>I'm convinced you were defending 9/11 bombers' actions
I'm convinced you're a retard.

>>144473309
So much retard in one post. Typical for a remnant supporter when they have no real counter argument at all

>>144473180
They'd be much more useful alive and rebuilding the world than dead. Just imagine how faster it would be if they had fucking Kazuichi on their side.

>>144473129
>but I'd be more likely to believe that she killed and replaced Miaya than the ridiculous series of events required for it to be Chiaki.
How would monaca grow 30 cm taller and get tits in one year when she is 10-11 yo?

>>144473368
>inverting color scheme
Seen it, anyone who says it looks like Chiaki is grasping for straws
>Monomi
Monomi and Chiaki are completely different people with different character traits
>basically a therapist
Yeah, that's the way being the Ultimate works. Good argument.

>>144473387
Is this all you do when you literally have no arguments?

All the side material and there's no pre-quel going through Junko growing up as a kid and how she became the girl she is?

>>144473320
Well I hope terrorists kill your family and then you forgive those terrorists for it when they say sorry

>>144473346
>Yep, it would be dumb. Still more plausible.
It really fucking isnt.


>monaca somehow became really good at hacking and programming in a short amount of time and infiltrated an organization easily to be the ultimate therapist.

>>144473426
Height is easy to fake in a wheelchair, and tits are easy to fake when you wear a lot of layers. I don't believe it's true, I just think it seems less stupid than Chiaki.

>>144473443
>appeal to emotion

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>>144473019

I'm assuming the classes have access to outside sources and any weapons necessary
An asterisk denotes ambiguity over whether they would actually be useful or not

Members of DR1 cast that could actually do anything in a fight
-Sakura (Martial Arts)
-Mukuro (Soldier)
-Oowada* (Might have gang/ weapons?)
-Togami* (Might have access to weapons due to money and influence)

DR2 Cast
-Peko (Swordsmanship)
-Mikan* (Access to lethal doses of medicine)
-Nekomaru (His Strength + I don't know if Mechamaru ever existed in reality but that would further his strength)
-Akane (Her Strength)
-Gundham (Control over animals)
-Souda (Can build War Machines)
-Sonia (Access to literal armies)
-Fuyuhiko (Yakuza relations)
-Komeada* (Being super lucky he may accomplish something)

Whether you keep or exclude the debatable ones the DR2 cast wins by a landslide.

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>>144473443
Please follow Nagito's example and kill yourself.
For hope, of course

>>144473429
>Is this all you do when you literally have no arguments?
Your argument is literally Chiaki isnt real and Despair arc is a simulation.

>>144473452
Look, I could make arguments for Monaka all day, but it's a stupid theory and I'm tired of playing the devil's advocate for it.

>>144473429
Monomi and Chiaki are clearly related. Miaya looks similar to Chiaki. Miaya doesn't talk. Miaya had a hand in the neo world program. Miaya clearly had some shit happen to her in the past, which is convenient because we can be almost certain Chiaki was in deep shit when class 77 turned to despair. There are a lot more potential connections to Chiaki than fucking Monaca of all things, who just "kind of looks like her" and has a wheelchair

>>144473019
Hard question.
SDR2 has stronger people overall reminderr that Gundam and hajime are more ripped than owada But DR has mukuro.

>>144473392
I am just saying that Junko has done both. She changed her entire appearance and her talent. It isn't unfounded that it could happen with this little knowledge. If I was Ultimate Baker but all I ever did was play Football all day, I could easily switch to Ultimate Football player.

>>144473443
>Terrorist kill your family
>Their memory is wiped to that of a baby's
>They're raised like normal people and turn into completely different adults
>Kill them

That's what you're saying we should do

>>144473487
>Look, I could make arguments for Monaka all day,
You really couldnt.

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>>144473357
>m-m-muh Junko

No its only desperate faggots who are pining to Junko's talent as an excuse for these guys' actions. She didn't put a gun at their heads. She said shit and if they'd have been Makoto, they could have fought it. She's not invincible

Buuut instead they go off to follow her and destroy the world :')

But people will continue fishing for more excuses for these guys it's hilarious .

>>144473481
Yep, and all the evidence from DR2 says I'm right. No one's ever been able to debunk it, and you're more than free to hit up the archives or replay the game to know why.

>>144473517
I guess you'll never know, because I'm really not going to bother.

>>144473546
>Yep, and all the evidence from DR2 says I'm right.
How?

>>144473576
Whoops, you only read the first sentence, friend. Better check the second.

>>144473546
>Yep, and all the evidence from DR2 says I'm right.
It doesnt. And the Chisa theater at the beginning of despair arc even further shoots you down.

>>144473421
Yeah. He could be building stuff for them on the other side of the prison walls with the rest of his friends while they stay there for the rest of their lives

Or he can just die.

Either way, it's not like anybody would miss them. They can always build their own shit

>>144473590
The Chisa theater explicitly suggests that there will be a happy ending, which adds more weight to the VR theory.

>>144473576
>>144473590
He's trying to get (You)s.

>>144473587
Again.What evidence you have?

>>144472071
Why gozu? I haven't seen anything pointing that way.

>>144473625
I'm not reposting the massive walls of text I've done in the past. I just came in this thread to shit on the Chiaki theory, I don't care what you believe if you're too lazy to figure it out on your own.

>>144473019
DR1 class has Junko
She snaps her fingers and orders them to die and they obey
DR1 class wins

So if the remnants of despair are so unforgivable and mindhacks don't matter in terms of guilt, would you murder every last child in Towa city? I mean it's the same situation as those kids did tons of fucked up shit while under control of despair.

>>144473546
If is a simulation.
Why was Yui building a new school there? He will probably never interact with the Sdr2 cast.
Why would a NPC talk with other NPC about something like that?

>>144473503
Yeah we should. Who gives a fuck what happened to their memories afterwards

But you're probably a Naegi dicksucker who'll go with his retarded ideal because your DR2 waifu will die if you don't. If it had been anyone else, you would be bashing people lior Naegi.

>>144473660
Good question. I have no great answer other than that it is meant to serve as both a prequel and an end to the story.

>>144473546
Are you being retarded on purpose? Chisa's account in both episodes of the two anime premiere pretty much indicate it's a prequel. Not to mention its in the fucking official timeline. Chiaki existed or could still exist. It was never stated that she was not based on a real Chiaki.

>>144473647
Because you're baiting.

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>>144473546
>>144473587
>"I have evidence"
>"look it up yourself"

>>144473680
>Who gives a fuck what happened to their memories afterwards

The thought process of a literal child.
I know you won't admit it, but we all know you're underage.

>>144473475
Half of the list for the DR2 cast is nonsense and shows your bias

>>144473615
She says if she wonders if it can be considered a bad end. Not that it's a fucking happy ending.

>>144473019
If you put Izuru on DR2 side, they win.

DR2 easily gets blown out if they dont have him.

Nidai is a manager, not a fighter.

>>144473697
You got it. I'm too lazy to bother tonight.

>>144473713
"So does it have a bad ending, you ask?"
"Hmm, I wonder"

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Say something nice about Seiko .

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>>144473711
Did you even watch the first episode of Mirai-hen? That's the kind of shit that happens.

>>144473702
Again keep spouting the same retarded nonsense hoping some sense comes out of it.

I'm sure it will come eventually

>>144473747
>"So does it have a bad ending, you ask?"
>"Hmm, I wonder"
Thanks for literally proving my point. The ending of DR2 isnt a bad end but I certainly wouldnt call it happy.

>>144473344
Mukuro could probably Nidai and Akane by herself. There are advantages to being big and strong but being small and quick also has its perks

>>144473756
She's cute

Reminder that the DR2 guys turned themselves in
In any modern justice system you do not execute someone with no trial
Munakata just wants to rule the world and to do that he needs to take care of all resistance, like the remnants and Makoto

>>144473772
Well, they purposefully left it wide open, so you might be right, but it's disingenuous to say that very obviously refusing to answer the question of "does it end badly" definitely means it'll be bittersweet.

>>144473443
if your analogy is in any way similar to what actually happened in universe, then
>and then you forgive those terrorists for it when they say sorry
wouldn't happen because they are already dead.

>>144473759
You mean watching the SDR2 kids getting BTFO by the FF leaders?

Yeah I did

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Reminder that komaeda is hinata's endgame

>>144473760
Not him but the modern ideal behind an institutional justice system is prisoner re-education not punishment
Or do you think Junko was right in having the murderers die?

>>144473791
>Munakata just wants to rule the world
>based off no evidence

Yep speaking like a true despair supporter who will come up with the most ridiculous nonsense to demonize a group trying to save the world yet shield your shitty killers who destroyed the world

But go on.

>>144473855
That just looks like Shinji and Kawrl to me.

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>>144473475
Okay, the rules are. Every member of the class has to participate, they will only have the shit they probably carry on person or can be found on Hope's Peak, which lets be honest, could be whatever under the sun.

Members of DR1 cast that can actually do battle
Mukuro
Toko
Sakura
Mondo
*Possibly*
Leon
Ishimaru
Kirigiri
Junko

DR2 that can do battle
Peko
Nekomaru
Akane
Gundham
*other usefulness*
Mikan(lethal doses of medicine)
Souda(Can build war machines)
Komaeda(supernatural luck)

Hijime is normal, the DR2 cast does not give a fuck about what Junko's titties have to say, Naegi just smiled at Mukuro, meat is on the line for Akane, Fuyuhiko winked at Peko, Togami just had Naegi tell Toko his opinions.

The fight is on.

>>144472814
>kugumiya dying
It was a good start to the episode

>>144473837
It never shows them losing.
Munakata would have killed peko and the others without doubt,he really hates them.
Also,how the fuck they caugth gundam and sonia?

>>144473833
Nope they aren't dead. They're still alive and hopefully Komaeda will correct it. He seems to be the one with common sense on that island to know where they should all really be right now. The afterlife. Then they could be forgiven.

>>144472567
Nagito don't have true hope, he just insane

>>144473756
She wasn't the first to die.

>>144473913
>Naeigi just smiled at Mukuro
It's over DR1 wins.

>>144473913
>Hijime is normal
Hajime is more ripped tha mondo according to the official chart,same with gundam and souda.

>>144473867
>but the modern ideal behind an institutional justice system is prisoner re-education not punishment


That's not true in the least what the fuck

And Japan would be even harsher about their punishments and that's how the DR universe would handle it like

>>144473913
What about twogami? He seems to be really fast and strong and the fat would protect him.

>>144473837
I don't know about that
Excluding Chiaki who might or might not have joined them but the entire DR2 class survived while Munakata whines about "muh lost friends" in Future ep 1
>>144473900
The fact that he's building another HPA overseas to wrestle control from Jin like fedora-man warns Jin about?
The fact thst he takes matters into his own hands and acts like he's the leader of FF without actually being the leader?
The fact that he starts a manhunt on Makoto and tries to cut down anyone in his way?
He's either a power hungry guy who wants to rule everything, or just a fanatical templar knight

>>144473913
So, basically, Toko, Sakura and Mukuro VS Peko, Nekomaru and Akane.
The rest can't be that useful in comparision, except maybe Gundham and Souda.

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>>144469070
I fucking swear I'll QUIT if Gozu dies too early

>>144473756
Cool mouth thing
>>144473937
And Kuzuryu

>>144473988
>That's not true in the least what the fuck

Yes it is, what the fuck is wrong with you?

what's the best subs for this? should I just go with horriblesubs or are there any better

>>144473988
It is, it's why the death penalty is outlawed almost everywhere
In civilized countries re-education is key when dealing with prisoners because the state takes a moral high ground

>>144473913

In short, Ultimate Martial Artist, Ultimate Soldier, Ultimate Biker and a fucking Serial Killer vs Ultimate Swordsman, Ultimate Team Manager and Ultimate Gymnast then.

Yeah DR2 team is fucked.

>>144473988
How old are you?

>>144473937
They probably lured Ghundam in with some animals in cages and they got Sonia by capturing Ghundam.

>>144473937
Now that I think about it, how does the info DR2 gave make any sense?

One of the emails said they found 15 students safe. Then the other said they discovered the recovered students were the Ultimate Despairs, at which point Naegi stole them away. When could an encounter like the one shown in the episode happen?

>>144473937
>It never shows them losing

They clearly were if Fuyuhiko had to send in Peko, who promptly gets swatted aside by Munakata like she's a fly then they had to bring in Nekomaru and Akane who I'm sure got wrecked by Izayoi and Sakakura.

That's probably where they got captured there unless Izuru stopped watching and found some way for them escape

>Also,how the fuck they caugth gundam and sonia

Eh probably sent other members later like Gozu to handle them

>>144474053
You might as well quit now because, if there's anything we've learned from the last two killing games, it's that the best characters always die.

>>144474086
With the exception that the Biker is pretty useless, unlike other guys from DR2 like Souda.

>>144474105
>who promptly gets swatted aside by Munakata like she's a fly
Not really, as he had back up right next to him and she didnt really.

>>144474105
>Gozu going to catch Ghundam
>Ghundam sends an elephant at him
>Gozu just powerbombs the fucker into the dirt
I wish we could see the capturing of the despairs.

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>>144473937
>Not wondering how they caught Metal Greasy Solid aka Twogami

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>>144473905

how about this one?

>>144473967
She is carrying Naegi on her back the whole fight.

>>144473970
That just means Monda is a pushover but he does have combat potential. I doubt Souda does anything more than watch Sonia suck Gundham off.

>>144474008
He has his night vision goggle and Ibuki just told him he was cool.

>>144474032
Super Highschool Level seems to be code for bullshit so if Ultimate class president means, sword skills than anything is possible.

>>144474059
No its not. They punish them for with a sentence and then get the re education later.

>>144474075
Yeah but we're talking about Japan and the DR universe were execution is still a thing

>>144474087
How old are you?

So how did Naegi manage to get Izuru into the machine? He couldve 1v1ed those FF guys.

>>144474176
They got in voluntarily, remember

>>144474143
Yeah no he knocked her aside like she was nothing without even trying.

>>144474156
Yeah. Really makes you think how much Izuru had to damage control to make up for the Remnants getting their asses kicked by the FF.

>>144474105
>probably sent other members later like Gozu to handle them
Can gozu beat a army of elephants? he was breeding for a knive.

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How could the FF ever beat Imposter?
Look at how good he is at dodging lasers and how fast he's running using his imposter abilities

>>144474094
The way Future is set up is impossible bro.
You can find inconsistencies all over the place.

>>144474176

Izuru was the one who put in the monokuma virus, remember?
He got in voluntarily as part of the greater plan

>>144474086
Komaeda is a walking bomb of random bullshit, don't count the other students out just yet.

>>144474176
Izuru didn't resist because he had AI Junko on a floppy disc. It was all according to keikaku.

>>144474176
That was their plan. Did you not play DR2 at all?

>>144474250
I wonder what would happen if you tried to counter Nagito's luck with Naegi's

>>144474156
It'd be cool if we do during Despair. But like the other anon pointed out, I'm not really sure how it works that FF didn't know who the 15 students were until after Naegi took them away.

>>144474094
- Naegi finds a lead on survivors
- sends a report
- FF: "Cool, help them"
- Naegi finds survivors
- sends a report
- FF: "Wait, those are Despairs, kill them"

>>144474219
Well I mean Gozu is a tank and can break down walls and floors with his elbows so I'd think be OK with some backup

>>144474218
Izuru probably gave up after all of them got caught since he had Junko's AI with him so he was gonna master plan his way out of the rehabilitation.

>>144474223
Superior stealth capabilities that come naturally to the Ultimate Imposter.

>>144474287
Not really since they did have a hand in capturing them. We saw it in the first episode man.

>>144474086
I wonder how they'd all stack up to Ultimate Hope Izuru. I think Izuru could BTFO out of all the DR1 and DR2 Ultimates combined if he was serious.

>>144473756
Actually cared about someone dying, pretty cute.
Best grill/10 would kiss her passionately and hold her hand

I just finished DR2. I loved it better than the first.


So question,

Did nobody in the future arc of the cast except maybe Chisa even know about Izuru's origins? Kirigiri was surprised at what happened and what she learned in trial 6 after all. I dont know if the old chairperson in future arc knows anything about that.

>>144469776
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10792673/
why isn't everyone voting for komaeda?

>>144474277
It is a death game, Naegi will combine his luck with HOPE to always come out on top. Plus Mukuro would be carrying him the whole class vs class deathmatch.

>>144474411
because Teruteru exists

>>144474311
>An entire and important facility like Jabberworck Island is possible to be accessed by the lowest ranked division and has no supervision
>The FF didn't intervene immediately after they realized they were Despairs
>An organization whose main members seem to utterly despise the Remnants would spend their resources on Therapy treatment
Good shit

>>144474411

Because he's LITERALLY the best character in the entire franchise

>>144474411
Hate Mahiru too much. Literally only reason people aren't voting her is cause she's a girl.

>>144474311
Exactly, so how did they end up fighting the despairs in the first place

>>144474170
Execution is a thing because Junko decided to make it a thing in the DRverse
Justice isn't about revenge or punishment you dipshit, why don't they just kill everyone if that were the case? Why do prisoners get a reduction on their prison time for showing signs of improvement or good behavior?
Remember Brevik got 21 years for terrorism