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Why is Bogue so cute?
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>>144461224
>Not Macross Freyja
One job, anon.
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>>144461267
It's Boguefag. They are still stuck on episode 7 of Macross Freyja so they are a bit out of loop.
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>>144461399
>Boguefags are stuck
Just like Bogue himself on his stock footage!
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kitto saa motto
motto saa gyutto
gyutto nee sotto
sotto nee kitto
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Soon, when Mikumo leaves Walkure and Freyja steps up as Ace

>Oh great! Another point for Freyja! Macross Freyja is at it again! I just don't understand why Freyja has to take the role of the Ace. Kaname has been around longer so she deserves to step up. It's not like only Freyja has fold waves! Who cares if hers are the strongest?!
>Such shitty writing! I can't believe it. If Freyja was going to be the Ace anyway like WHY EVEN PUT MIKUMO IS THE STORY IN THE FIRST PLACE.

It's going to be delicious asshurt all around. Im excited

>>144461224
Bogue is a cutie. I mean now he's all MUH REVENGE FUCK WALKURE but in the manga as a child he's very cute
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>>144461399
>They are still stuck on episode 7
Just like Minoringo, right? Stay salty Boguehaters.
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Oi
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Been Mirage is suffering ;_;
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Freyja torture porn when?
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>>144461714
Why is she a Boguefag, anyway? Maybe she already knows that her character will lose the MC bowl.
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>>144464470
MUH HAYAFRE

What Hoina wants, Hoina gets
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>>144462048
Freyja looks cute in that picture.
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Freyja pleases old men for money
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>>144465558
Try harder. You can do better.
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>>144466360
I doubt it.
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Odd's Hayate's dad is a bad person?

Humans really used nukes?

Freyja wins the bowl?

Mikumo survives the series?
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>>144467896
>Odd's Hayate's dad is a bad person?
0%
>Humans really used nukes?
50%, the other 50% is on Windermere or some third party enemy
>Freyja wins the bowl?
0%
>Mikumo survives the series?
100%
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This episode made my heart go doki doki
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I want to protect Mirage's smile
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>>144468377
>not gorigori
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>>144464205
Go read windnigga manga faggot. He's cute as fuck.
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Why is Mirage si fucking ugly?
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WHAT THE FUCK WHY
Klan doesn't deserve this ;_;
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>>144467896
>Odd's Hayate's dad is a bad person?
He's a good person that was made to do bad things.

>Humans really used nukes?
Like 90%. NUNS guys are pretty fishy. We'll see their motives soon enough.

>Freyja wins the bowl?
90% Freyja wins. 10% Sky end.

>Mikumo survives the series?
I say around 70%
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>>144468815
that came from somewhere else

>>144469336
Only reason why I like the movies better.
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>>144467896
What happened to that anon who was vehement that there was no possibility that Hayate's dad either dropped the bomb or had something to do with it.
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>>144469336
>Misheruuuuuuu
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Most wanted dick in Delta
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>>144469420
Oh shit does michael not die in the movies?
Once I finish the TV series ill watch those then.
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>>144469469
>your boyfriend will never make it snow for you
;_;
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>>144469549
Inorite? Hayate's raised the bar. Now I'm just like "Bitch, I don't care that we live in Cancun. Make it fucking snow!"

I'm still wondering how he got those snow machines tho. Did he buy them? Did he build them? Did he borrow them? I know it's the future but has technology advanced that much that a teenager can get snow machines for his precious GoriGori's birthday just like that?!
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>>144469704
Mirage said that he had no money so maybe he borrowed them.
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>>144469768
I like to think he borrowed the essential equipment but had to tweak it to produce snow. Something about him just working on it makes me happy. But still, he made it fucking snow for her birthday. I fucking can't. That's the most romantic shit I've ever seen and he didn't even mean for it to be romantic, he just genuinely wanted to get her the best gift because he thought she deserved no less than that. Like DAAAAAMN SON YOU GOT GAME
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>>144469487
Fuck my bad.

watch to find out
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>>144461557
I don't understand why people complaining about main character getting more screentime than secondary character.
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Am I the only one that thinks Mikumo's VA is the most talented out of the group?

Seriously, her voice is so vigorous and gorgeous.
It's so easily recognizable even when they sing altogether.
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>>144470315
About 85% of the people complaining are Miragefags that are angry that their girl isn't winning. And the other 15% are people who actually care about the storyline.

We've still got 10 episodes left though so I'm sure we'll get more characters getting screen time. I'm pretty sure we'll get at least 2 episodes centered around Mikumo. Also 1 about Arad and how he's connected to the Nuking of the Windies. Another Windies centered episode also seems pretty logical before the final battle.

But yeah. We'll see.
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>>144470476
>Mikumo's VA
>JUNNA
>It's so easily recognizable even when they sing altogether
Anon have you been sleeping under a rock? Mikumo's VA and singing voice aren't the same.
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>>144470899
Sorry, I meant singing actress.
Yeah I know the VA and singing voice are different persons, I was referring to her singing voice.
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I don't get why Miragefags are complaining.

I like both Freyja and Mirage and I'm okay with this development.
Hayate can marry Freyja and then get together with Mirage at age 30 when Freyja kicks the winderbucket.

They'll both be at their prime and Mirage will be a deliciouce cake.
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So she actually likes Arad.

Poor Messer should've fallen for Mikumo or Makina instead.
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>>144471098
What is truly amazing is that she is the youngest of the group.
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>>144470899
>Mikumo's VA and singing voice aren't the same.
What's the point in having a different VA and singing voice for the same character?
It seems all VAs can sing to begin with.
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>>144471422
Who is the tallest??
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>>144471727
Mikumo.
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>>144471762
I'm assuming those are the VA's and not the singers.
She doesn't look like JUNNA at all.
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>>144471354
>TFW Messer is treated like shit

Doesn't get the girl, and some faggot who can get singing buffs outclasses him crippling his rival.
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>>144470817
I'm musing over the direction style that they have been doing until now and how things are supposed to keep escalating, and I think what the directors had in mind was to do something like Guren Lagann p sure there was an explosion of butthurt Yokofags back then also.
I have my own complaints about the anime, but I'm willing to let that slide until the show has completed airing.
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>>144471422
Second from the left is the talking va of Mikumo
>JUNNA is not even in that pic
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Hayafre shippers can't possibly be this pathetic of ignoring the accumulating problems because of a ship.

Oh wait, they are shippers they don't care about quality or anything else for that matter.
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>>144472018
>implying Messer didn't get singing buffed in his final showdown
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>>144472170
>inb4 fuck off
there is no point in telling them, they are not using their heads to think
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>>144472252
Poor Messer. He is dead, but somehow suffers much more than anyone else.
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>>144471591

Anyone can sing, but pro singers actually sing well. VAs that can actually sing (ie Nana Mizuki) are rare.
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>>144472749
Nana is also expensive and its cheaper to have a new random singer that you won't need after the show ends and a B+ regular VA.
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Rewatching 7 and I noticed the instruments they use to measure Spiritia look pretty similar to the ones they used to measure fold output in Delta. I've always just assumed they were the same thing and Spiritia was just the word the Protodevlin used but I don't think it's ever been confirmed by word of God.
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>>144471591
>It seems all VAs can sing to begin with
Now what gave you that assumption? There's a ton of VAs who can't sing worth shit. Some happen to be talented singers as well but those are quite rare. While others train to sing but they don't compare to professional singers with raw talent.
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>mfw people think it's bad writing that the girl who has spent her entire life trying to live up to a legacy and focusing solely on the military isn't very capable when talking to dudes or even trying to form relationships that go beyond comradery
lol
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>>144472252
If you think Kaname's forced and emotionless singing was anything resembling a buff, you're retarded.

The girl only sang for him because she felt obliged to.
She only cares for Arad's cock.
Damn during Messer's funeral even Freyja cried more than Kaname, and iirc Freyja never even met the guy.
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>>144461556
Back when Walkure was better
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>>144472170
Delta is becoming stagnant and a little predictable but I still enjoy the songs and Mikumo the most.
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>>144465916
No, that's Ranka's job.
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>>144473792
And when is a good moment to make progress or anything related about those issues in you opinion? the episode before last?
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If we cut off Freyjas rune, will she die?
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>>144474330
We may see it we may not
Mirage isn't even a main character so I don't know why people assumed she'd have a lot of development after all kawamori wanted to do away with the love triangle
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>>144474336
I don't know, but I want to see rune bondage doujins.
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>>144474030
Even though this is low quality bait, I'll bite.

>If you think Kaname's forced and emotionless singing was anything resembling a buff, you're retarded.
Yes, Kaname's fold waves are not as strong as the ones that Mikumo or Freyaja produce, but they were enough to keep Messer from going full Var, and the light that appeared around the VF-31 is indication of the buff.

>The girl only sang for him because she felt obliged to.
She was hesitant because she knows she's not as good as Mikumo or Freya, and of course she was obliged to do it, that is her job as part of Wakure, but still she put feelings in her song when she takes out Messer's bracelet, and cries for him while singing.

>She only cares for Arad's cock.
She cares more for Arad because she likes him, but she still cared enough for Messer to call him to ask about his wound, she was happy to see him return to duty and sad when he left for new job.

>Damn during Messer's funeral even Freyja cried more than Kaname, and iirc Freyja never even met the guy.
This one is completely wrong, in that episode the only two people that actually shed tears for Messer were Chuck's Sister Marian and Kaname
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>>144474336
it will be very painful
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>>144474370
But Mirage having development doesn't has to be related to her relation with Hayate necessarily.
Only a first-time writer could think both things are one and the same, particularly her fans wouldn't like it.
I know I'm not her fan and i would hate it.
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>>144474631
For you.
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>>144474558
Its a surprise to know that there are still many others who failed to pay attention towards the series.

When i think about it, its pretty hilarious that back in the day when Greco was on air, Grecodfags kept on bringing up the "you're not paying attention" argument on the haters.
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Sheryl >= Mikumo >>> rest of walkure combined > Ranka
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Did you guys ever tried watching Macross Delta with VR gear? I tried it and it was just amazing!

The battles, the dogfights, walkure's concert and the interaction between the characters up close right in front of my eyes in 360 degrees! A great experience indeed!
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I don't want shinpi-sama's character destroyed by developing her character. But at the same time i know she wont be a decent character without it.
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>>144471354
>Poor Messer should've fallen for Mikumo or Makina instead.
The heart can't help what the heart wants.
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>>144475885
Dam, nice job by fans.
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http://macrossds.bn-ent.net/

Bandai Namco opened the teaser website of the upcoming TV Anime game the Macross Delta Scramble. The game will be available from 2016 October 20 in Japan on PlayStation Vita based on the original Macross Delta TV Animation.

The new title going to costs 6100 Yen + tax (package version), 5500 Yen + tax (download version) and the Limited Edition going to costs 9000 Yen + tax. The Limited Edition version will be available in digital edition too for 8100 Yen + tax.

According to Bandai Namco the new Macross Delta Scramble will be a flight-action shooter game following the original story of the 13 episodes long Macross Delta. The game going to has a brand new theme song the ワルキューレ (Valkyrie) and on the idol list we can find the new and the youngest idol of the year JUNNA who is only 15 years old.

Visit the teaser website of the game and wait for more information.
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>>144476413
>they still think Chaos and Windermeme will team up after this game poster
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>>144476413
Shirokishi looks so smug
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>>144476413
>final boss is keith
now I can avenge messer with my own hands
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>>144475976
Makina is too strong
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Are Miragefags still in the ICU?
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>>144477594
cringe dude
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>>144476460
Game only covers up to ep13 - of course Keith would be the final boss then.

Have faith anon, team up is coming.
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I think this is by far the most agonizing wait for the next episode yet.

Here's what I think will go down, Hayate learned that his father dropped the bomb, and it'll cue angst. If there's one thing that Freyja doesn't really have with Hayate is that they don't really confide in each other with their worries. Instead they tend to use each other as springboards for cheering up. When it's serious or dark talk, Hayate seems to rely on Mirage more. Meaning the whole father thing will lead him towards Mirage.

At any rate, the next few episodes will decide a lot.
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>>144478078
I say it will lead to him going to his father/mother.

He's not an orphan as far as we know.
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>>144478205
His father is obviously dead.
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>>144478078
19. Eternal songs
Mp3 player contains and eternal songs by all Macross iconic singers. I think that this episode is going to be about Hayate's father.
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>>144478270
>and eternal songs
*an eternal songs
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>>144478078
Next episode is about Walkure problem. Most likely their fold waves doesn't work.
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>>144478260
The plane wasn't consumed by the explosion iirc.

Arad wouldn't use Hayate as a pilot without telling him such huge truth, that would make him the worst of shits without any redeeming quality as a captain or human being.
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>>144478332
>doesn
*don't
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>>144478333
Arad talks about him in past tense. He's dead.
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>17. Scattering On Stage
Walkure's fold waves are fucked up
>18. Sense Emergence
Hayate's worried face that we have see in the 17 ep. preview is going to be at the end of the episode - cliffhanger
>19. Eternal Songs
Hayate's father secret, Freyja's Mp3 player
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>>144478078
That's an interesting theory. We'll see.
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>>144478459
>17. Scattering On Stage
Bogue goes kamikaze, huge stage explosion, Reina dies.
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>>144478333
We had numerous hints even before it, but in episode 14, Hayate downright says he is dead.
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>>144478545
Makina is supposed to be getting jealous when Reina is speaking to a guy. Reina x Bogue confirmed.
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>>144478749
Nigga, Chuck has been prepping Makina for months to be his meat slave. Reina can watch.
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>>144478749
Makina looses hope
Reina looses Makina's love
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>>144478916
>>144478749
Reina is the straight one.
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>>144478946
and Makina now can drink with Mirage and Kaname
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So this a nod or an actual early draft? When Mirage and Mikumo were still a single character.
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>>144480604
It's a fanart-esque joke piece.
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>>144467896
Odds he nuked windameres 95%
See above
Id say around 75%
80%
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>>144480604
>Mirage and Mikumo were still a single character.
I missed that bit
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What would be the most satisfying? Mirage winning the bowl, or her coming to terms with her problem on her own and becoming the new ace of Delta Squadron?
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>>144480991
Mirage winning

Female pilots in robot shows don't become aces
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>>144480991
She isn't going to be an ace that's for sure. She obviously is in a job that she doesn't like. She fits into the role of an administrator or something similar.
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>>144469336
Blame Ranka
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>>144480991
>her coming to terms with her problem on her own and becoming the new ace of Delta Squadron

This, I don't care about the bowl
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>>144480991
>coming to terms with her problem on her own and becoming the new ace of Delta Squadron
This is thousand times better than winning the triangle but I doubt it's going to happen.
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I miss Messer

Shame the white knight didn't
HOOO
No but seriously having captain buzzkill around was pretty nifce.
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>>144481124
>Female pilots in robot shows don't become aces
Doesn't Milia count
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man i hate this bitch,what is that diva actitude? she is beyond all bearing
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>>144481705
>hating perfection
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>>144481741
perfection my ass,this is perfection
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Most of expressions never gonna happen in the show anyway.
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>>144482019
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>>144482019
Muh heart.

Is this from the BD?
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>>144482019
2nd bottom right, looks like crying /v/'s wojak
>IT ISN'T FAIR
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>>144480991
Latter is already confirmed.
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>>144482200
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>>144482019
th-thanks kawamori
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>>144482019
All of them already happened.
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>>144482046
>>144482241
Winning attire
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>>144481518
I miss him too.
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>>144482842
What for is that helmet is here? Hayate doesn't wear a helmet.
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>>144473116
It is confirmed in an data book that in-universe, they later found out that spiritia is fold waves, they just didn't realise it at the time.
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>>144482200
>The awkward daughter of the Jenius house
>If I would make a female pilot then I figured I would make a daughter to the Jenius (Maxmillian Jenius' and Milia Farina Jenius' sixth daughter Miranda's daughter. Mylene Jenius' niece.) She has worries of being part of a Genius household, I thought it'd be interesting if she held unfree thoughts under her superfree grandparents.
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>>144482019
>she will never be this smug in the anime
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>>144481705
If she turns out to have no relation to Basara, I'm gonna have to burn a lot of shit.
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>>144482842
>Freyja in the middle

Kek, subtle
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>>144480317
Very nice!
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>>144482889
> Protodeviln > Zentradi
> Windy > Protodevlin

Windy is master race, king of the universe!!!
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>>144483129
Never gonna happen, but it would be great to see Mirage interact with the whole Jenius family.
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>>144483674
He just translate the comment from the picture, or you quoted wrong post?
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>>144483129
So Mirage's purpose as a character in this series is to overcome her insecurities and unfree thoughts? If this is what kawamori plans to do with her apart from the triangle, I have no problems with it.
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>>144483707
I think the "never gonna happen" was in regards to what came after it in his own post.
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>>144483781
It fits with the line "Fly like you want to". She doesn't have a want when it comes to flying. And her major arc will be finding it.
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>>144483707
>She has worries of being part of a Genius household, I thought it'd be interesting if she held unfree thoughts under her superfree grandparents.
>That's not gonna happen

Do you even read?
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>>144483707
Just my own wishful thinking.
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>>144483859
But that's the comment from Kawamori.
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Holyshit this is too cute
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>>144484391
Hng
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>>144484425
My heart
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Picked up the bluray myself and I looked in the little booklet and it did confirm what I thought about why we aren't seeing battroid that much.
Kawamori's being a little stuck on reality too much so he really finds it hard to justify using battroid since it just makes you a larger target and there's no point in fighting going out of the way to fight close quarters (unless it's to disable the other pilot).
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>>144484464
Damn, I wish they will get a happy end. At least let Heinze survive. He's too pure.
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>>144484391
>>144484425
>>144484464
>>144484503
Hnngh, too cute.

Make it happen, anime.
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>>144484483
I actually agree with Kawamori.
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>>144484483
Okay then. I already sastified from that battroid scene in episode 15.
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>>144484503
Sadly I don't think he'll survive. His death will be the trigger for Keith to break ties with his friend.
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>>144484483
But now we rarely witness cobra to battroid sequence. Hope he will come out with something new and fresh. For some reason, I feel that older series prefer more battroid than flight mode. So I think it a good way to distinct Delta from the mecha genre animes since humanoid mechs have been pretty common late
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>>144484575
>>144484580
Battroid was pretty much just made to CQC with zentradi. It's pointless now that Space War 1 is over
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>>144484391
>>144484425
>>144484464
>>144484503
>mfw this won't be how a Windy "kidnapping" will play out

But are these a parody of the 1st ED? Freyja's outfit looks familiar.
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>>144484751
Yeah, there're a lyrics on the pic.
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>>144484503
On one hand, he's throwing up death flags left and right. On the other hand, will Kawamori actually go through with killing a 9 year old?
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>>144484391
Bogue's face just gets me every fucking time.

But now I really want a windermeme highschool AU...
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>>144484819
After saw the thing he done to Kiyonon, I'm sure that no one can stop this mad man.
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>>144483563
Mikumo is likely their ancestress. It's about a mother's love too. And she only gives special fucks for Freyja and Heinz.
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>>144484503
>implying it won't be a Heinz x Freyja end
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>>144484994
I... I can see that happening
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>>144485007
>Heinz x Freyja
If Freyja loses the triangle and this happens, I won't even be mad. All hail Queen Gori Gori
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>>144485110
It makes sense since Heinz is the only authority to stop the war, do you actually believe he'll just stop Windermere from attacking just after Freyja sings? Hell no.
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>>144484483
Also Kawamori confirms that Mikumo was never supposed to be part of the triangle. The two idols one pilot thing was already done in Frontier. He doesn't like doing the same thing again.
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I don't understand those who compare SDFM with Delta. Or maybe I don't understand why they don't get the circumstances are reversed.
Misa didn't 'win' because Hikaru loved her more. She won, because Hikaru realized he wasn't good enough to be with Minmay, being with Minmay, meant give up what both of them loved. They drifted apart since they followed their opposite direction path, no longer communicate, Minmay didn't love him either. His love for Minmay was obsessive but inconsiderate: he didn't even buy her a birthday present, and gave her a medal lying it was her present.

Hayate and Freyja meanwhile share a special understanding, pay attention to each other's feelings, were able to stay together by following a similar path (they are nakama. He's her bodyguard and personal pilot). He knows what she likes and gives her the best birthday present which is thoughtful and amazing. Furthermore, all the Kawamori Macross couples besides SDFM lean on singer+pilot variant (or an hybrid):

- Myung (failed singer but singer nonetheless in the end) + Isamu.
- Sara + Shin.
- Mylenne + Gamlin (Gamlin + Basara for the ones who know the true end). Mylenne or Basara can fly but they are identified as singers.
- Alto + Sheryl.
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>>144485251
Oh, more interesting information?
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>>144485284
Just ignore them anon, also we don't know what will happening in thr future and Kawamori said that he don't want to do the same thing so there're no point comparing with the previous show.
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>>144485251
>He doesn't like doing the same thing again
>IMFUCKINGPLYING
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>>144485251
>He doesn't like doing the same thing again.
How to spot a Macross newfag 101

Let me guess, you actually believe he'll do something "new" this time around?
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>>144483274
It's metaphor for the topic of their conversation.
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歌姫2人との三角関係になると、また同じことの繰り返しになってしまいます。そこで歌姫と、女性パイロットとの三角関係という構造がしっくりきました。

blahblahblah
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>>144485448
Which topic, can you explain? Also i'm started to sick of this fucking middle girl meme, Mirage also havr middle spot in new OP fucking hell.
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>>144484391
I need this now.
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>>144485528
He said it himself.
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>>144485413
Military girl, idol girl triangle, idol wins. It's new.
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>>144485589
Hayate manages to make 99% of their conversations about Freyja.
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>>144484483
Curse you for being able to get yours so quickly. I'm apprehensive over just how long it'll take for mine to get shipped here
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>>144485670
What are the odds that Mirage will finally say something along the lines of "For once can we stop talking about Freyja? She's not even here right now"?
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>>144485771
"You're right. Maybe I should look for her!"

Even if Hayate and Mirage hooked up, Mirage wouldn't be able to have sex without Hayate crying out Freyja when he cums.
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>>144485302
The interviewer was asking him if he had problems with selecting the next new singers and Kawamori says that's where he ran into the most problems. It'd feel like he was choosing Minmei if it was one or Ranka and Sheryl if it were two. So when he was working on Macross F, he decided he wanted to do an idol unit instead next, except he didn't count on there being so many idol animes 8 years later.
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http://macross-matome.net/delta-chat/6644/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Nips loved episode 16 and Freyja. Nobody here is giving a fuck about Mirage's tears. They are busy fawning about Freyja, heroine of the year to them.
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>>144485771
Nah, i hope for once they make a scene that Mirage alone, not just package with Hayate.
I mean i'm fine if they just end the triangle in episode 16, now let's focus on personal development for her and of course other characters.
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>>144485771
>>144485820
The bullying is too far.
>>144485831
The out come of the idol unit is really greater than expecting. Damn, I love this mad man.
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>>144485935
I'm not sure why you link this when the site just simply copying 2ch's comment, you can go 2ch and see what are they discussing, it's not like they block us.
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>>144485831
The reason that there are so many idol anime now is in fact in no small part due to Frontier, which makes it funny
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When Freyja said she was halfway the life of a Windermerian, Hayate's smile faded immediately. Dude has a problem with that.
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>>144485935
Please stop pulling thing out from your ass. There're people who feel bad for her too. I started to sick of people hate Freyja because she got too much screentime and no one care about Mirage meme.
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>>144486096
Who wouldn't? The question is how that affects his actions.
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>>144486120
Well i know people in twitter care her, and...2ch anti threads.
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Planet NotDubai has native indigenous people (I thought they were all humans) and the booklet goes out of the way to mention that General Galaxy has large scale manufacturing plants located there.

Which reminds me, in this month's E, the Zolan girl from Dynamite make a cameo, and that mad scientist shows up in a Lucifer or something? I haven't picked it up yet, so I'm not really sure about it.
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>>144486173
Can we stop looking at 2ch anti threads. Can we stop looking at 2ch period and feel like we have to copy them. Christ.
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Come on guys stop the waifu war for a while since people is getting BD volume 1 now, i want some scan and maybe interviews from staffs or maybe seiyuus.
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>>144486096
He always make a serious face when people talking about her lifespan. You can see him doing that when Mirage mention it in episode 4 too.
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>>144486181
Oh, its out now? Sounds interesting.
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>>144485935
>>144486051
http://macross-matome.net/delta-chat/6713/
Better yet, post the one about the triangle so we can shitpost.
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>>144486339
>Mirage's love referred as "pale first crush"

kek
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>>144486339
Disgusting, even niconico also have a waifu wars because everyone just want their girl to win.
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>>144486120
>falling for Freyjafag cherrypicking posts
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children cartoons are serious business
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>>144486478
When this bullying will end?
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We already know about the original concept of Delta so I won't go into that, but the aerial dogfight in episode 3 is closest to what he had envisioned for the flying competitions in his original idea.
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>>144485831
>except he didn't count on there being so many idol animes 8 years later.
Walküre is on a level of their own compared to all those other idols, though. It's like they came to show the rest how it's done.
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>>144486181
>General Galaxy
Why am I not surprised?
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>>144486642
That's cool. I can see that. It's a shame macross the ride is a light novel and not an animated series. Would have been cool to see I think.
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>>144486642
And Hayate wins by being buffed by Freyja.
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>>144486676
That would be nice, but it can't compete with Love Live or Im@s, realistically.
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>new OP wastes almost 20 seconds with no vocals and just the series logo

Who is responsible for this
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>>144486903
Fuck, I really want a competition between 2 pilots pairing with their personal singer.
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>>144486985
I'm talking in terms of musical quality. I can only speak of Love Live but Walkure's songs are just on another level.
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>>144487069
To be honest after I listened to Macross's song I can't find another great quality song like this again.
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>>144487026
>Fuck, I really want a competition between 2 pilots pairing with their personal singer.

That's Keith/Heinz vs Hayate/Freyja
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Also, it looks like Kawamori wasn't really up for having a big war originally, since it makes it harder to portray the delicate movements of planes and do daily life scenes. Yasuda didn't want to make things too serious either, so Kawamori came up with the idea of mixing Macross Plus, which took a western movie approach, with Macross 7, which went with the manga approach.
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>>144486339
What? How can you not post about the shipping part. All the shipping shitposting could be so glorious
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>>144480991
what if mirage dies ?
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>>144487780
NO
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Last thing I'm going to post
The ZBP-104 is the NUNS serial number designation for the regular Regult and ZBP-106 is for the variant which incorporates the Queadluun Rhea's booster and arms.
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genocide fucking when m8's
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>>144480991
Both
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>>144487872
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. Now suffer misfortune for being able to read it before me in the first place.
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>>144487818
At least it will end the pain and will probably make her relevant,maybe
>>144487920
WINDNIGGER GENOCIDE SOON
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>>144484391
>>144484425
>>144484464
>>144484503
Why fujo arts are so ugly?
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>>144488277
#notallfujos

>>144480317 is also a mainly fujo artist.
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>>144486096

I too feel really uncomfortable about Freyjas being an old hag in windermere years.
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>>144482019
Bottom right and left are lust.

>>144482241
Top middle is the remarkably best.

>>144482842
>hayate's manboobs.

>>144484503
If someones is going to die, it's more than likely gonna be Heinz.

>>144485110
Heinz won't even make it to the end, Roid/Keith will kill him if he tries to stop the war.

>>144485284
>nakama
Cancerous word for shipping, you only hear that crap in Bleach

>>144485771
Not sure about that but punching Hayate at some point seems likely.
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>>144484391
>>144484559
>>144484911
>>144485633
More importantly why fujos are commenting?
>>>>tumblr
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>>144485935
>average freyjaposter
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>>144487780
NONSENSE
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>>144488453
She's a cute cake.
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>>144488532
But true fujos hate tumblr.
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>>144488219
I wonder what is in Kawamori'd mind when he creating her. "Here a Jenius girl who have a problem about legacy and can't fly as she want, her character development will be blush and gasp."
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>>144488792
Fujos are scumbag. There's no true or false.
They only care about delta so they can jerk off to windermere fags self-inserting as Freyja. As if they care about macross as a franchise.
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>>144489055
They're no worse than any other shipper.
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>>144489052
>fucking sponsors and their obligatory triangle

that's what happened
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>>144489246
I understand about the triangle, he can make it one-sided or somethings as he want. But he ruined her development, I mean suddenly she became a blushing flower in episode 10 and I was like "Woah that's fast." and now she cried made me suprised as fuck because I don't think she like Hayate that much.
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>>144489103
Shipping is always relevant in Macross because of the triangle. Fujos are latching onto a franchise they clearly don't belong.
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>>144489397
And literally sucking Freyja's dick like crazy.
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>>144489393
Would you shut the fuck up about ruining her development before the show is over? I've had it up to here with your crying every fucking thread. You're not seriously thinking its not gonna come. It's just low quality shitpost bait at this point. The only way of 'rebuttal' you'll have to this will be memes
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>>144489246
Most otaku will not watch macross without the triangle. Heck it's selling so low compared to frontier because the ship bait is so tame.
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>>144489534
>People should not complain about the lack of development of a character

nigga pls, even her VA feels the same
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>>144489693
>You do not seriously think it's not going to come
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>>144489397
>Shipping is always relevant

The only shipping that is remotely relevant is main triangle shipping, and even there it's usually people who are more interested in a contest than actually watching the story unfold. Shippers of all sorts are cancer.
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>>144489393
>she cried made me suprised as fuck because I don't think she like Hayate that much.

I think part of the issue is how Delta just randomly jumps forward in time and the implication seems to be that Hayate and Mirage spend a fair amount of time together offscreen because of their job which is pretty shitty way to develop a relationship.
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>>144489760
Yes I do

She is Zessica 2.0
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Didn't Hayate meet freyja in april? In universe its already november
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>>144489892
They met in April? I don't remember that being stated
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>>144489534
Perhaps you should fuck off out of 4chan and create your own site where only people that think like you are allowed to post.

Retard.
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>>144489892
I don't think we know when they met unless I'm wrong. I'm sure a few months passed but If I had to guess they met late summer season.
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>>144487069
Macross songs being on another level entirely is 100% accurate. But Love Live! did a better job of developing most of their idols' characters . They don't have a Makina or Reina in their group, and there's 9 of them.

Can't say the same for the cast of im@s though, even if I've only seen that once.

But yes, Macross music is better produced, I think that's a given. I wonder if they'll be as good live!
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>>144489814
That's definitely the main issue. We apparently missed months of development offscreen in this show and that's how we get stuff like this.
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>>144489983
Maybe you should get a new meme to push.
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Hayate and Mirage may spend time together as part of their job but that sure doesn't show in their interactions. Episode 16 mall scene is a clear indicator of that. When it's not about their jobs, Messer or Freyja, they're silent and awkward because they have nothing to talk about. That silent bench scene was pretty hard to watch. You'd a thunk that by now they'd at least be on a comfortable friendship level. Mirage is so co-worker/instructor zoned that it's not even funny.
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>>144489665
Frontier's sale point is the love triangle, even the OP lyrics is about love triangle and if you leak the old thread you will see so many shitposting about triangle and shipping wars.
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>>144487920
Already happening.
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>>144467896
Unlikely
Most likely
Unlikely
Likely
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>>144490029
Do they do anything other than developing their characters? Do they have other characters even?
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>>144490029
Idol group is a main character in Love Live! anon. That's why they got all the focused and development.
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>>144489534
Both are true, they are fucking up some stuff while doing other developments correctly at the same time.

The bad stuff that has already happened can't be changed but there are 10 more episodes in store, maybe they will make a roller coaster of twists that will leave everyone excitedor maybe not.

I wouldn't tag Delta as mediocre just yet, even if all episodes are already recorded so "whatever is going to pass has already passed?", but wait to see everything unfold by myself.
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>>144490107
Not much other than the main nine idols, but I was only talking about the idols. I enjoy slice of life stories, but the lore and worldbuilding (and politics/war, in the case of Delta) of Macross, on top of top tier music, definitely makes it superior.

But yeah if we're just talking about idols within an idol unit. Love Live manages to juggle nine better than Delta does with its five. And then im@s has their 12 that I can't really differentiate even by personality quirk.
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10/10 Mirage
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>>144490266
>One character treated in a way you dont like
>entire show is mediocre

Whatever, senpai
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>>144490308
My point is LL is doing pretty much nothing else but the idols.

Or that would be my assumption anyway, I don't watch it
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>>144490325
yeap whatever with you indeed
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>>144490066
Yeah that's pretty awkward scene. Hayate spend tine with Mirage more than Freyja but they didn't talk about their personal thing
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Birthday might be Freyja's but the Hesitation was Hayate's who was uncertain about his feelings.
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>>144490322
She needs a whip on her hands.
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>>144490765
Yeah damn I thought it gonna be Freyja concerning about her future, but even the short lifespan can't stop her passion. I love hoina so much.
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>>144490870
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>>144490765
>Hayate reaching out to Freyja and then pulling his hand back with a "what is this?" look on his face
>Ending scene with him looking at Freyja in adoration and sighing "Freyja..."

Yeah, the "Hesitant" part was Hayate's. I don't think we'll see more progress next episode though since it seems we're heading into plot shenanigans now.
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>>144490322
Would be perfect is they didn't reduce her chest so much.
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>>144489693
>even her VA feels the same
Except she doesn't you fucking piece of shit. That interview was reposted and translated here like 10 times already. Stop spreading this bullshit pulled from some shitposter's ass. She never said that and she never implied that.

I wish all mirageretards would kill themselves.
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>>144489393
>and now she cried made me suprised as fuck because I don't think she like Hayate that much.
Except that was the whole point of that scene. Even Mirage was surprised by her own tears. . She didn't expect that it would hurt so much because she didn't realise how deep her feelings turned to be. Do you even watch the show at all?

I guess I shouldn't have expected anything else from brain dead miragefaggots.
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How long until V2 is launched?
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>>144491142
>>144491271
oh fuck off samefag, are you filling a quota or something.
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What macross song would you like them to pay tribute to next/do you think Walküre could do justice (being an idol group and all)? In the style of Ai Oboete Imasuka.

(not counting my boyfriend is a pilot)
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>>144491262
Here's that interview, you fucking degenerate. Not sure why I am posting it since you can't read japanese anyway.
Also nice announcement of report.
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>>144490989
bomb 'truth' -> dad implicated -> Hayate angst -> throws away dad memento (fold quartz) -> decrease in resonance -> no support error

is what i think we're in for
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>>144491142
>>144491271
Literal cancer

>>144491366
Anything from Ranka. Her voice sounds close in range.
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>>144490308
>But yeah if we're just talking about idols within an idol unit. Love Live manages to juggle nine better than Delta does with its five.
Because that is an idol show about nothing but it's idols. Macross has larger actual plot, more characters outside of cute girls and mecha fights to also do. It's not comparable
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>>144491352
>>144491502
Nice comeback, but as I said I didn't expect anything else.
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>>144491366
I want them to do lion
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>>144491560
>shitposter expecting comebacks to his shit
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>>144491387
We have the full scan?
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>>144491349
>Messer dying in a head on attack
>WMD on Windermere
>The Snow came
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>>144490325
Not developing the character half of the fanbase want to see fleshed out.
Fans will still support us without any complaint!
What a smart move!
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>>144491779
he's a shit troll, don't give him replies
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>>144491636
I just showed two retards how wrong they are, one can't understand a simple scene, other blatantly lies about Seto's feelings.
For the last 4 days it's nothing but retards saying retarded shit about Mirage and apparently everyone must be tolerant to it. I'm genuinely tired of all of that.

>>144491716
I think I saw the full version posted here, but it would be almost impossible to find it in archives.
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>Arad
5 Delta pilots+4 pretty boys

My guess is that they will draw each unit for each of the nine volumes.
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>>144461557
Are all the Freyjafags are fujoshit self-insert like this degenerate?
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They updated 2nd BD package. Arad on his sieg is comfy as fuck.
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>>144491779
>half of the fanbase
In the last popularity poll on site which streams Delta Mirage wasn't even second or third most popular character in Delta.

>fanbase want to see fleshed out
And it doesn't matter, because story is written before authors can get response from fans. It's not an unusual situation when supporting character becomes more popular than expected. It doesn't mean that the whole story should be butchered and rewritten to satisfy some fans.
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>>144492092
Hayate look like a girl here.
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>>144492077
Apparently they are in this place, and particularly when you call out the bullshit.
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>>144492044
I want Arad to take me on a ride on his sieg
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>>144492044
Maybe. I'm expecting keith and bouge. But one could be of elysions maybe? Sigr valens? Bogue's and the twins drachens are completely identical.
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>>144492092
I missed badass Mirage.
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>>144492077
They are seasonal fags most of them don't even care about Macross
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>>144492218
Yeah, Delta Platoon, Keith, Bogue plus Elysion and Sigur Valens could be it too.
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>>144492325
Can't wait for based Ernest on the package.
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>>144492325
Also not convinced we won't see Roid eventually flying something later. Maybe, maybe not. It's a possibility.
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>>144492109
Because most of the Mirage fans have already dropped the series.
Fans want one of the two main girls get the development she needs. That has nothing to do with butchering the story.
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Guys, what if the series ends and there is no change to Windermere lifespan?
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>>144492636
You'd be forgiven for thinking that's not the case given the constant bitching.
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I can't wait until we get a BD cover with shinpi as focus
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>>144492642
What about it?
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>>144492077
Miragefags are getting so desperate, it's delicious.
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>>144492642
Maybe we will get to know about half blood windemere in the next 8 years.
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>>144492758
>how to spot a retard
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>>144492880
Stay salty, Freyja stronger than ever.
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>>144492753
Then they keep dying at 30, that's awful.

>>144492912
wew lad. gross.
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>>144492735
I love shinpi swimsuit.
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>>144492758
>implying there are any Miragefgs left
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>>144492986
They fucked up Mikumo's body ratio.
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>>144492954
Believe in Kawamori's magic.
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>>144492954
Yes. Agreed. That is pretty awful.

I think it'll be fixed though, because I think it's an arbitrary thing added by the protoculture. If this were to be true, then curing it would be a step towards reconciliation while at the same time, Roid's true heir of protoculture hypothesis would be smashed forever.
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>>144493058
Mirage's hip look wried too.
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>>144493135
Why would Protoculture's true heirs have ship lifespan?
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>>144492986
Too bad it's a poster, but if it was boxart people might get the wrong idea of the show's nature. Or something
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>>144493219
*shit
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>>144493219
That's what I'm saying. If it is proven in the show, that the protoculture did this to them, it'd be proof that they're not their true heirs.
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>>144493050
Then who is shitposting for the last 4 days?
Seriously, when miragefags were memeing about Ranka 2.0 and "older girl always wins", "Freyjafags are delusional" for 2 months since the first episode it was fine. People didn't complain too much about it. But their bitching after ep 16 is beyond annoying. They can't attack Freyja or her fans anymore so they attack everything and everyone else instead. It was fun to enjoy their tears for a day. But now I barely can stand reading these threads. It's nothing but toxic shitposting and whining.
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>>144492758
Shut the fuck up fujoshit.
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>>144492077
>fujos
>self-inserting as a girl, ever
Are you retarded? Fujos self-insert as men. FUjos view other women as competition and get jealous, they don't self-insert as a female character in a hetero couple. So instead they ship a gay couple and self insert as one of the men.
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>>144493135
I'm pretty sure they are so short-lived for a reason, probably they were planned as a warrior race or something, or they needed to give them one major drawback since their fold sensitivity plus their heightened physical abilities could get dangerous in the long run. As Windermereans are now, they can only think about marrying, fucking and raising kids to make sure their race doesn't go extinct. And grow apples and enjoy their short lives, basically. Because of this I'm willing to believe they were a mostly peaceful race like the Knights claim.

But yeah, I'll be surprised if they don't fix the lifespan thing. And unlike some people here I don't think it cheapens the message of the series.
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Holyshit here come the waifu wars.
>>144493227
>mfw no beach episode
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>>144493408
>what is episode 3
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>>144493135
>I think it'll be fixed though
I think it would go against everything this show built so far. Freyja doesn't worry too much about her lifespan and she definitely doesn't need pity. She lives to her fullest and enjoys every single moment. She even explicitly said she didn't want longer life if it would prevent her from singing.
And as it was mentioned lots of times in these threads humans have shorter lifespans than Zentradi, but no one fixes it.
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>>144493304
Cumulative issues here and there + running out of patience for such issues + cancerous fanbase + lack of critical thinking.
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>>144493444
That's Hayate and Chuck catching the mercat anon. I want girl in swimsuit.
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>>144493322
Don't be so salty, anon. Someday your favorite girl will be the winner and girl of the year too.
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>>144493463
The more interesting is if Windnigga fuck with Human will their descendants have a longer ifespan or not.
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>>144493304
Freyja isn't wrong per se but the stupid formula they use like a broken record requires you kinda shut off your brain.
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>>144493695
If they were integrated into UN for 33 years why didn't we see any half-windies in the show?
Windermerians are probably racist as fuck and don't allow their woman to have kids with other races.
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>>144493463
But the point about Windermere's lifespan is that it's really unfair when you think about it. They don't really have what one could call a 'normal' life cycle because it cuts their lives short just when a normal human has settled into adult life. Roid and Keith lament this, because how can they help and protect Windermere when they only have 10-15 years left compared to the rest of the races? If Freyja gets to live as long as a normal human nothing in her attitude would change. She would still be all carpe diem.

And Sheryl's illness getting cured didn't make any of her previous development or scenes look cheap.
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>>144493782
Or you could be a fan of the best girl right from the start. Very simple.
So far I'm enjoying every second of the show with Freyja.
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>>144493878
yes yes ofc
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>>144493304
>older girl always wins

They actually do but you're a newfag so here's a (You).
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>>144493815
>Wind men
Always white, attractive, have runes, gentlemen
>Earth men
Come in different tones of brown and other disgusting skin colors, no runes, mostly ugly, invaders, savage

No Wind woman in her right man would marry an Earth man. Also remember that they marry young, Earth men don't.
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How will Mirage recover from this one sided beat down?
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>>144493815
I want to see a half-windies so bad. Have to wait for 8 years is suffering.
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>>144476587
mikumo gorgeous
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>>144494141
Don't give them an attention just hide their post.
>>144494076
>have runes
What the fuck anon. To be honest I wanna lick Freyja's rune too.
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>>144493878
But I don't like always cheerful genki girl. I want to see less mentally handicapped Freyja and more best girl Mirage.
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>>144492092
>red
Freyja wins?
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>>144493982
Is this the first time you see the word "memeing"? Miragefags never cease to amuse me.
Also you forgot to repost one of those charts with "winner/loser".
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>>144494093
It's jus ta crush, she will move on. It's not like she's ever had a chance.
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>>144494336
>Freyja wins
>obviously alone in the front cover while Hayate and Mirage team up
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>>144494336
That's orange isn't it? Or maybe I have an eyesight problem.
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>>144494361
Here the first bluray. Hayate BTFO
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>>144493636
How about stop replying fujoshit. The hate is not on Freyja (she is cute) but dumb fujoshitter like you.
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>>144494361
There are 3 covers one each, come on.
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>>144494093
By winning.
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>>144494536
>F-Freyjafags are just fujoshit!
Nice damage control, Mirageloser.
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>>144494524
>Freyja shares a meal with Mirage

>>144492092
>Mirage tries to force Hayate to come with her while he looks reluctant

So next cover will have a sad looking Mirage while Hayate molests Freyja's rune?
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So, after this episiode, Freyja is going to be kidnapped(episode 17). The next few episodes will be Hayate being depressed over it and realizing that he isn't as good a pilot without having her around. Mirage is going to comfort him and they will get ample development together to the point where she will [probably] win the bowl. After which, Freyja will return and Hayate will get his wind buff back, but also be faced with having to choose between the two. If this happens, the choice will be Mirage by rules of logic.
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>>144494659
That will be the last BD cover. Freyja and Hayate's wedding with a sad looking Mirage.
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>Freyjafags scared that Seikan Hikou 2.0 just happened and they wished Macross Delta ended in 16 episodes

WEW
E
W
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The underage is out of control.
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>>144476413
>limited edition is 90 fucking us dollars
holy hell.
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>>144476944
Makina is for yuri lust
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>>144494710
>not crying Mirage
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>>144494659
>Freyja shares a meal with Mirage
That's cute I want them to interact more. Also I noticed that Mirage call Freyja as Freyja-san in this episode.
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>>144494707
But Roid has his eyes all over Mikumo, he's gonna target her in all likelihood.
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>>144494606
A lot of them though. You can't deny. And any girl fujoshitters associate themselves with is automatically worst girl.
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>>144494707
As always miragefags can only envision their girl winning with Freyja out of the picture, like her back off for no reason.
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>>144494825
did you cry while watching DYRL and Frontier?
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>>144494707
Please, make a believable scenario of Mirage winning while Freyja is there.
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>>144494802
Mikumo is gonna lose her singing power according to magazine spoilers, or she'll weaken. Either way, kidnappingfags are BTFO because it explicitly spoiled that Freyja and Mikumo will have a "role reversal in Walkure."
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>>144494707
Looking from the title of the episode I can't see any kidnapping happening.
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>>144494390
They meant Hayate is the blue of Platoon Delta. Freyja is the red Walkure. Blue and Red. If you've watched any shows you'll know the Blue and Red trope.

Also, you have their resonance which is being depicted as their "Special link". Hayate's is blue and Freyja's is orange. Blue and orange and complementary colors, two colors that when together they create a white light.

And then you have the concept of Delta which is each Singer with their Pilot. And Hayate and Freyja are the duo in this scenario.

So if you look at things from this perspective, it's like Freyja and Hayate were pretty much designed to be together/duo/couple/partnership/bonded/unmei however you want to call it
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>>144494881
I cried when Michel died.
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>>144494803
>girl fujoshitters associate themselves with
This is the most retarded thing I've read today. Do you even know what fujo means?
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>>144494917
Oh that's a cute detail.
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>>144494710
Or Freyja dying while convincing Mirage to take care of Hayate.
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>>144494917
So Makina is banging Chuck and Arad with Mikumo? cool
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>>144494899
>Mikumo is gonna lose her singing power according to magazine spoilers, or she'll weaken
Or just Freyja becomes stronger.
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>>144494803
>A lot of them though.
No shit Sherlock, Freyja is best girl. Most people watching this are Freyjafags.
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>>144494899
>no kidnap
>no Freyja molest Heinz with Walkure lewd song
Have to wait for doujin huh.
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>>144494899
Any other info anon?

Glad we won't get kidnapping troupe. Though the whole
>Hayate needs Freyja
From the event means he will probably toss the jewell away so he won't be able to resonate with Freyja anymore.
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>>144494921
Thanks to the movie.
>>144495014
WUT?
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>>144494825
>>144494897
I'm a Freyjafag.
I'm just going off of speculations that were made, specifically that Freyja would get kidnapped and Hayate would be unable to fly as well. I'm not specifically having her out of the picture for convenience.
I'm just very suspicious over the fact that Mirage isn't all that much of a competition for Freyja. inb4 muh pale triangle. I think I am fair in being a bit pessimistic/worried about Freyja winning. I've seen every Macross, but Freyja is my absolute favorite girl and I really want her to win.
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>>144494930
A lot of fujo also play otome games so?
They want to identify with someone from time to time.
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Okay shitters we know a couple of things of events to unfold because of spoilers:
1. Mirage gets more feminine and blushes more. Already got it.
2. Hayate notices Freyja and the triangle dynamic change. Just got this.
3. Mikumo's losing her singing strength because of some counterattack by Heinz, and Freyja will need to step up as center of Walkure. Soon? Next episode? It does not bode well for those who think she'll be out the picture.
4. Herman has a POV different from most Aerial Knights. He even expressed he hated the Var shit last episode and didn't really approve of it because muh honor. Already covered.
5. Freyja's gonna sing a song made by someone Minorin admires a lot. That was God Bless You by Maaya Sakamoto.
6. Hayate's gonna get new relationships or get his bonds deepened with Windermere and his dad. It's happening.

I'm missing some shit?
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>>144495014
You do know Makina is pink and Reina is green? Pink and green are complementary.
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>>144494659
Kawamori can't keep getting away with this
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>>144495141
And they ship the guys together. Look at Utapri, that shit has more homo doujins than your average homolust anime.
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>>144495148
And spoilers always get filtered to not really spoil anything important or beyond 1 or 2 weeks.
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>>144495148
7. Makina's upgrade for Hayate's VF.
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>>144495051
At least not yet.

>>144495029
No, it was explicitly stated Mikumo will be BTFO by Heinz and Freyja will have to buckle up and take her place as lead voice. Whatever she was planning to do, it would backfire.

She'll be Messer'ed without being killed like Messer. She needs to step down so the student can surpass her like happened with Hayate and Messer.
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>>144495267
Nobody believed Hayate was noticing Freyja with the implication that had in Japanese: as a love interest. And it just happened. It was out since Messer died too.
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>>144495234
Utapri also has a lot of hetero doujin so?
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>>144495295
>17. Scattering On Stage
Mikumo overextends while singing and falls into coma

>18. Sense Emergence
They need to fight without Mikumo for at least one episode

>19. Eternal Songs
Mikumo's backstory and protoculture secrets revealed.

I remember people were predicting this scenario for episodes 13-15 (that's when these spoilers were posted).
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>>144495267
Only point 3 and 6 are missing.

Delta's plan is gonna unfold this week for good or bad and Mikumo will be out of commission.

Hayate is gonna find out about the bomb, the most predictable prediction ever, in the last scene.
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>>144495445
Normal girls watch it for the het pairings, rotten girls watch it for the homo. Easy.
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>>144495276
This we never saw a source for, its a bit too specific, and we heard it so long ago it has to have been debunked by now
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>>144495034
Not true. Most people watch this are for waifu war.
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>>144495606
Or the fujoshitters can also like the hetero pairing.
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Who is the worst character and why is it Reina?
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>>144495148
>>144495276
8. Freyja will do something that is gonna prove just how much she loves everyone. Could be this episode or could be in episode 22.
9. Hayate is useless without Freyja.

If she's gone or semi-dead it'll be by episode 22 and looks like Hayate might have to man up and get her back.
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>>144495148
>That was God Bless You by Maaya Sakamoto
God Bless You was by Kitagawa Katsutoshi. Sakamoto did the lyrics for the other song, Kaze wa youkoku naku fuku.
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>>144495753
Reina or Makina.
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>>144495577
Sounds good. Or maybe Freyja's voice reaches Mikumo/inspires her to sing again. Just like she mentored her once. So role switch? Next time they would sing as equals. Freyja is definitely changing Mikumo. She has got her interested in birthdays and all that shit.
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>>144495809
The song Minorin wanted to sing was still in this episode. She loved both songs.
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>>144495148
>>144495809
Fun fact about japanese: It's awful at specifying singular or plural, unless you go out of your way to do so.

Minorin's blogpost about it, had a "daisuki" in front of both Kitagawa and Sakamoto.
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>>144495753
No tits.

Holding down Makina
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>>144495794
>9
Arad is gonna have to kick his ass and slap some sense into him.
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>>144495983
Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with that. Just pointing out that Sakamoto wasn't involved with God Bless You.
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>>144496283
>Everyone expects Mirage to do something
>instead is Arad who kicks his ass and pep talks him to save Freyer

What is more unlikely? For Mirage or for Arad to do something relevant? Maybe Ghost Messer Jellyfish could visit Hayate instead.
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>>144496283
If they make Hayate a total sissy like that it would be the nail in the coffin. Srsly hoping not.

Fuck the shit damn it anon.
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>>144497466
Maybe Hayate will get The Slap.
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>>144496283
>>144497412
>yfw Chuck is the one who motivates him
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>>144497546
He already got the Slap. Did you forget Mercat sensei slapping him?
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>>144497412
At this point? Mirage
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I hope we get a concert next episode.
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I'm pretty sure it will be Mirage who will slap Hayate to make him get his shit together and go save Freyja, thus Mirage giving up on her love and getting gud for episodes 22-26. Allowing her to say "fuck your dick Hayate, go save Freyja-san. I'ma get gud and kick some ass, I don't care about your disco stick anymore" would make me go all MIRAGE-SAMA SLAP MY TITS WITH YOUR ELF EARS PLEASE
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>>144497466
Hayate isn't a pussy like Alto
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>>144499535
This is kinda what I think will happen. Though not quite like that perhaps
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>>144499535
>and getting gud
How do you imagine that happening? You can't suddenly become an ace pilot just because you give up on your feelings. So it will be like this:
>Hayate, go save Freyja-san. Meanwhile I will continue be useless till the end of the show.
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>>144495794
And so Hayate and Mirage became the useless couple.

The End.
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>>144499535
If Mirage suddenly gets gud and Keith notices her I'm declaring Mirage as the true winner. Not going to happen but it would be hilarious.
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>>144476587
They made a new Mikumo figure! Yassss! They really been pushing Mikumo recently
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>>144499707
But it's her feelings, and shit that's holding her back. She's technically talented, just too predictable
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>>144499820
My sixth sense is telling me to cap this.
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>>144476587
Looks like they are promoting the two main female heroines of Delta
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>>144478295
An eternal songs? That makes no sense?
Can somebody translate the exact translation of the episode title?
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>>144474196
I liked Walkure when they were still underground, before they sold out
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>>144500455
Ignoring incorrect article used by anon why would not it make sense? "Eternal" is probably referring to songs from protoculture era and indicates Mikumo's episode.
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>>144481705
How far into the series are you? People who often don't like Mikumo at first, grows to love her eventually
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>>144499841
Mikumo and Keith will end up together.
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>>144483760
It doesn't make her worthy of third main character though. She could have easily been a secondary character. That spot should have been for someone else honestly
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>>144500682
Jesus fuck please no. I remember I was supporting this ship during first few episodes and I even made a small bet on it (>>140731522). But I hate Knights so much now (especially Keith) and I hope they all get nuked. That one eyed piece of shit doesn't deserve our goddess Mikumo.
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>>144485528
So basically Mikumo wasn't apart of the triangle because he didn't want a repeat of F, which we all already knew. Miragefags will find anything to justify mirage, it's really sad
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>>144500621
I think it refers to Hayate's father MP3 player that contains Eternal songs.
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>>144500621
Do you remember love ? Original version
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>>144496283
>Arad is gonna have to kick his ass and slap some sense into him.
Anon, Arad is unable to slap any shit into Hayate's head. The only person that was able to do it was Messer. Pray for ghost jellyfish Messer's help.
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>>144495753
I can live without Mirage. She doesn't add up anything to the story.
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>the Quarter starts surfing
>the fleet of Quarters shows up
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>>144492986
Mikumo has too much curves. Her swimsuit can't even contain her boobs.
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>>144495577
>17. Scattering On Stage
>Mikumo overextends while singing and falls into coma
Agree something happens to her. Thre is reason why Freyja is so sweating - she must work even harder.
>18. Sense Emergence
>They need to fight without Mikumo for at least one episode
I think that the person that senses emergence is Hayate, because of his resonance with Freyja which means that Freyja is in trouble.
>19. Eternal Songs
>Mikumo's backstory and protoculture secrets revealed.
I think it's Hayate's father episode.
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>>144492986
Their faces are from K-ON.
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>>144493826
It's not fair in your eyes because you keep comparing it to a human lifespan. It's normal for them, just as how how a human lifespan is normal to us. Why does nobody feel sorry for humans, whose life spans are way shorter than zents? Human's aren't going around, crying for longer lifespan like zents.
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>>144500907
Keith is obviously against this galaxy war but he's keeping his unhappy comments because he promised to serve his brother.
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>>144501544
>ghost messer and ghost mercat sensei team up
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>>144502067
>literally that one radio talk comic
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Reminder that Walkure has been a thing for like 4 months and already has a gold certified album
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>>144502229
THIS
I don't see any problem with Freyja's short life span. It's not a disease - it's natural for Windermereans.
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>>144495029
It's not possible for Freyja to become stronger. You guys misunderstand the concept of foldwaves. You can't produce any stronger than the amount you have. It's just your heart and emotions affect how it is utilized. This is why Heinz, with his super big runes, has the strongest foldwave of windies, however his heart/emotions are weak.

Mikumo has abnormally high foldwaves, for mysterious reasons. The role reversal/weakening thing is mostly her character development story arc
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>>144470476

She's got a power voice that's kind of uncommon in modern idol singing. Really the whole Walkure sound is kind of 80s idol style
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What is this expression trying to convey?
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>>144471591

I don't think Ami Koshimizu has even done any singing since Horizon. Also she's not signed to JVC so that could also be it
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>>144495577
Mikumo is getting weaker and weaker because she keeps rewinding/resetting the past. Her subconscious want's to save Freyja from her terrible ending. Which is why she keeps having flashbacks and memory loss. With each time travel she losses more and more memories, but she remembers her one goal, to shine more than Freyja so that Freyja will live. But sadly Freyja keeps getting stronger with each timeline ;_;
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>>144502786
fanfiction.net
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>>144503070
Nope, Madoka.
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>>144502786
And then in the end Freyja marries some random guy that was introduced only 3 episodes before the finale and that somehow ends the war and hatred. Keith gets captured by Hayate and spends the rest of his life in prison (with Hayate occasionally visiting him).
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>>144503070
Ruins have a Time chamber
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>>144503129
>some random guy

*Heinz

Freyja will persuade Heinz to pursue peace and Heinz will ask her to marry him becoming Queen Freyja (just like in my Viking stories) while the last standing Aerial Knight (Bogue) serves her in a brutal twist of irony since all of his comrades are dead.
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>>144472018
That's what happens when you do unnatural shit like riding another man's wind.
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>>144503212
While Mikumo remains an ominous figure and remembered by nobody, except Freyja. Then the third Macross Delta movie will be about how Freyja tries to rescue Mikumo
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>>144472018
Shit writing. Welcome to the club.
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WINTER is coming!
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>>144502229
>>144502417
"natural" is thrown out the window when they weren't in fact created by nature, but by a designer, the protoculture. It was thrust upon them along with their enhanced physical abilities, and it likely wasn't for their good, but to be used as a weapon by a race face extinction due to war.
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>>144503129
God that shit was terrible, fucking Butcher
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>>144503212
Stop reposting your fanfic, it's terrible.
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>>144503129
Don't forget

>Hayate and Keith develop a gay relationship
>Mirage fades into irrelevancy, occasionally driving Hayate to visit his lover
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>>144500907
>so much shit taste
Mikumo and Keith are perfect for each other, smug beautiful shinpi goddess deserves a smug handsome prince.
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>>144503859
War against what? No species created in the cluster had nothing to fear. As Roid indicated, their species, along with the species within that cluster lived in peace until the NUNS appeared.

None of the species in macross are natural. Even the humans and zents are created by the protoculture. The zents are the only species created for war.
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>>144504299
This is the biggest shit pairing even. Even bouge and Freyja have more substance than this. Don't lump that piece of trash, one eyes monster with Mikumo. Thank God, Mikumo was designed to not be interested in romance, because that pairing would have been the fucking worst. Go back to /m/ with that shitty fucking crack pairing
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>>144504899
More like Mikumo is style over substance: the character, Keith is too good for her.
>>
Kaname is my angel.
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>>144505041
Messah-kun you are dead
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>>144504954
No shit sherlock, Mikumo is just a walking plot device, Keith is a main character.
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>>144505041
so this is what we have to look forward to when we die huh?
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>>144504954
>Keith is too good for her.
AND WE AT ROBOTECHX.COM ARE ALL LAUGHING
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>>144505041
Since you're here, Messer, you mind passing on a message from Marian to Chuck, and his siblings?
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>>144505130
Same poster, making it seem like anybody gives a fuck about Kieth. You're sad
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>>144504299
I rather have Heinz Freyja.
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>>144505272
Wrong, but whatever helps you sleep at night. Also
>Keith
>not popular
Retard.
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>>144504794
The protoculture were destroyed by the war of the zentraedi and supervision army. The brisingr cluster is where they fled to last before they died out. Windermereans were their last creation. They bear all the signs of having been an intended war race. A weapon. Short lives aren't a 'natural' phenomena on them, its the result of the protoculture's effort of making a weapon.
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>>144505383
>#9
>popular
That's literally who tier.
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>>144505515
>Fold receptors
>Strong physical abilities
>Can resist VAR
>Live only for 30 years
Yeah, them being a weapon is my theory too. The 30 years thing was probably a countermeasure. Also, isn't their planet surrounded by a natural fold fault that makes access to it difficult? That would mean that Protoculture didn't want anyone to find out about them.
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>>144505515
The protoculture left for another galaxy.
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>>144489055
>fujos
>self-inserting as a girl
You don't know what a fujo is do you.
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>>144505635
Third most popular male character, that's good.
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>>144469420
But both of the climaxes were more enjoyable in the movies too
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Soon.
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>>144469487
TV Show: Michael dies.
Movie: Brera dies (he's more important than Michael, who is a side character), like a hero, destroying Galaxy.
Kiss in the Galaxy Shoujo Sheryl Manga (3rd continuity): Both survive, hook up with Klan and Ranka (Brera is non blood related).
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>>144506041
Delta TV show: Messer dies
Delta movie: Messer dies again
Kiss in the Rune Shoujo Freyja Manga: Messer survives, but Kaname cucks him with Arad
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I have a good feeling the Delta Blu-ray will sell over 200,000 copies
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>>144506372
You mean in total? Extremely unlikely.
Probably 10k average. Next time Kawmori should listen to sponsors and make a real love triangle.
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>>144506372
>>144506501
Who knows. Arguments can be done for low or high sales, we know shit noting of japan market.
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>>144506501
The problem is the characters, though. Too many one dimensional characters with zero development.
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What is even the point point of this love triangle

It's not a triangle if there's zero chance for Mirage to win, she's completely irrelevant to the plot and we're more than halfway through the show
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>>144506643
Ask Kawamori?
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>>144469768
old post, I know but that made me wonder, Hayate should be payed quite nicely being in the military and all, so what does he spend all his money on so that's nothing left?
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>What is even the point point of this love triangle
>What is even the point of Makina and Reina
>What is even the point of the twins
>What is even the point of Chuck's sister's crush on Messer
>What is even the point of Mirage
>What is even the point of episode 14
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>Freyja peaking out this early

Too bad freyjafags
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>>144506793
>Messer
>Chuck's sister
>Chuck's sister crush on Messer
>Messer's death
>Chuck's sister death

Oh boy. amazing, sincerely amazing.
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>>144506793
The twins are there to echo Bogue about new generation are fucking stupid vs older Windies who don't want war. Mirage is pointless.
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>>144505383
Wow why is Kaname so popular? I thought her lusting over Arad would turn fans away
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>>144506793
>>What is even the point of episode 14
This, to be honest. Literally the worst episode of Delta.
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>>144506793
>what is the difference between main characters and supporting characters

Mirage is billed as a main character but she's done jack shit over the course of the series. Messer has been more relevant piloting-wise to Hayate than she was. Mirage's impact on the show is laughable, yet she's featured prominently in promo and OP as a primary character competing with Freyja for the Hayatebowl. There's some argument to be made "b-b-but the show's only half over!" guess what? THE SHOW IS HALF OVER AND SHE'S STILL IRRELEVANT

There's no tension to the "triangle" at all. Freyja is 10x more relevant than Mirage is. Even an autist with zero concept of human interaction must've realized at this point that Mirage has no chance at this point. And even in the infinitismal chance that Mirage does end up winning, it won't be satisfying at all; it won't be a culmination of 24 episodes of bitter struggle, it'll just be a last-minute asspull by the director.

This show isn't a love triangle. It's HayatexFreyja with a third wheel.
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>>144506643
>Time really does fly, doesn’t it? (laughs) What’s the (love) triangle like this time?
>Yasuda: The main triangle consists of Freyja, Hayate and Mirage—we’re aiming for something that feels good, without the syrupy or muddled aspects that you often see in those midday soaps. I want a romance where the viewers feel like they want to watch over these characters.
So here's their idea:
They create 2 characters. One gets all the focus, she has greatest personality, she is cute, she is an idol, she has unique accent, she has rune which can shine and sparkle. The other character is literally who, she starts the show as a tsundere bitch and gets almost no screen time. So authors though that all viewers would obviously become fans of the 1st character and would not care too much about the second. Later people would be cheering for the 1st character during romantic scenes, but at the same time they would pity the second character a little bit.
But they didn't expect that bunch of idiots would pick 2nd character as their favourite before the show even started because of family name and "X always wins" memes.
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I'm starting to think that Delta's writing is not as good as I though.
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>>144507350
It's a pale love triangle and Mirage is just a supporting character. This isn't the first time adverts exagerrated something that isn't as true in the show. She's not pushed half as much as Freyja in promo shit anyway.
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>>144506793
The problem is 26 episodes. Macross 7 needed 26 epiosdes, while Macross Delta needs the amount that 7 had.

It's clear the staff had high hopes, and a lot of things going on for the characters (except mirage) which the wanted to establish. However they are restricted by the tiny amount of episodes
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>>144507244
This was before the Arad interaction got more substance, and after the KanaMesser hype. She will eventually fall back. I expect on future ranks, Kaname and Mirage to fall lower
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>>144507497
Mirage was a mistake.
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>>144507492
She's still getting a decent amount of screentime despite doing jack shit with said screentime. It's as if the writers initially decided for her to be a major love interest, but as the show went on she became less and less relevant, and at this point writers are only keeping her in there in a last-ditch effort to create romantic tension (it's not working)
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Are there any Freyja fans who think that Delta's writing is bad? Or is it just Miragefags?
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>>144507793
Not bad, but flawed. The first episodes were almost perfect but now the flaws are becoming more and more obvious.
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>>144507935
>>144507935
>>144507935
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Let us all be real here. Let us not sit and pretend like this is an actual real triangle, with the winner not already clear. This is just like Oreimo, where the winner was clear from start to end.

For people comparing the triangle to past generations - Misa can't be compared since she her story was added halfway through. As much as people shit on Ranka, nobody can deny that Ranka was a developed character. Ranka Lee had a personality, and substance, and development. She was also involved in the plot.

The triangle in Delta is an illusion, and Mirage fans are setting themselves up for failure and I don't even like Freyja that much.

Fair triangles are like Nisekoi, where both sides can present accurate and decent reasons. And for people pushing Mirage to win, you have to think realistically about Hayate's feelings. Hayate shows no romantic interest in her at all, even his friendship dynamic with Freyja is stronger.
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>>144503606
>dat Mirage
This bullying need to stop
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>>144507486
Its way better than F so far
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>>144507648
She's there to help develop the other characters and romance. She helped Hayate develop as a pilot and her comment made Hayate finally think about his feelings. She also took Messer's position and her problems as a pilot will have resolution, but her development is not the show's first priority.
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>these threads

Its like some of you faggots never watched a show with a love triangle before. You are out of your mind if you think Mirage is out of the race, specially with ten episodes left.
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>>144509501
Just like Zessica, right? Ganbare, Zessica!
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