SAEKANO

Megumi is so hot and cute. Truly the best girl.

I just came here to check for an actual discussion or at least a detailed summary of Volume 10. Although I wont expect too much due to the last thread.

Eriri a best.

>>144457483
Sorry meant to say Eriri a shit.
Autocorrect haha

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>no ass
who cares

>>144457464
Everyone cockblocks everyone, they all remain sexually frustrated aside from MC who married 2D long ago.

so Nothing Happens:The Volume?

Megumi a shit.

>>144457464
There's just much to discuss. Vol 10 is another vol 9 with Utaha instead of Eriri. Maruto has been holding out development for two volumes in a row now. Funny how a side story like GS2 has had the most development after volume 7.

>>144457650
>nothing much*

>>144457464
>4th reply in and Megumifags have already shitpost

>>144457539
pleb

>>144457697
Sup ESL Eririfag.

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Sorry but
>Utaha was rejected in V7
>Utaha still forced even though she has left the circle and already lost the Tomoyabowl
>Her story was supposed to be over
ahahah.I was delusional
reminder she is still in the game,
Vol 7 Tomoya's first kiss by Utaha
Vol 8 look picture happy couple
Volume 10 confirmed Tomoya has feelings for her and Utaha no lost the tomoyabowl Utaha still loves him so sorry but she is still in the game, especially since Tomoya hasn't picked anyone yet.

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>>144457539

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Here we go again.

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>>144457938
She won't win, but at least she's ahead of Eriri in the race.

>>144458152
>ahead
Let's not get crazy. Tomoya subconscious made a love letter/confession in the form of a dedicated route for Eriri. There was even a H-scene, to boot.

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>>144458152
I don't think so, anon.

>>144458282
>>144458431
He just did the same for Utaha this novel.

Can someone explain to me why Utaha has lost already? I'm guessing it's because E and U left T, but it seems like people are singling out U more. Is it just because volume 10 is about to switch to focusing on U again?

Also, is it delusional to think E and U still have a chance? Why would they even be the LN anymore if they didn't?

>>144458496
Did he? Spoilers aren't clear. We know Tomoya cares about Utaha and have an image of her in his mind that he idolizes, but is it actually love?

>>144457938
>Yes, the main heroine in the story is exactly like Utaha — a prodigy, a goddess, a creator — but that’s exactly the problem: even without the main protagonist, the heroine is capable to walk down her own path. There is no way such a strong girl can be the main heroine of the game.
>Those words pierced through Tomoya’s heart. Both of them who used to walk together are now continuing on each of their own path.

I think it's now definitely over for Utaha, anon.

>>144457608
Essentially. We always knew Utaha was sexually deprived and crazy.

>>144458605
Tomoya wrote an Utaha route, but the heroine in that route doesn't reflect the real Utaha. The real Utaha is stronger and would never limit herself by getting together with Tomoya. She would keep on aiming higher and higher with her writing career.

>>144458605
Utaha never really stood a chance. Tomoya author-zoned her hard before the series even began.

If you're familiar with Maruto's other works, you'd see that girls like Eriri (girls with past connection with the MC) are favored over girls who don't share that bond no matter what, so you can't rule her out until Tomoya actually picks someone else.

>>144458605
A few factors. Utaha have been benched since volume 7, wasn't a part of the love triangle the author was building, and she did took herself out of the race in volume 7, or at least that was her intention with the whole betrayal-so-you-will-remember-me plan.

Volume 10 is a return for Utaha, but it seems like the author's intent is to give Utaha route closure, as suggested here >>144458661.

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>What do you?
>...I drive.

>>144458777
>>144458825
>>144458838

So the idea is T idolizes U so much he can't possibly see her in a romantic light? Sounds like bakemonogatari shit.

Is it weird to assume that this being addressed in vol. 10 means it'll be "fixed" later on? Or is it for sure "closure" instead? The pierce heart quotes makes me think T will reflect on it and change himself somehow.

Honestly I just want more suffering on both sides. Vol 7. was definitely the most entertaining for me, even if it gave off NTR vibes. I'm really hoping for more love triangles, or an ending where nobody wins.

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>>144458960
It's more like Utaha isn't the moege heroine he's looking for. It'd be a hell of a lot easier to explain if the last few paragraphs of the last chapter were translated.

>>144458960
It's too soon to tell if any of that is definite. Right now Utaha's statement is a challenge directed at herself so she can develop. She can't accept the heroine Tomoya made because she herself isn't as strong and perfect as the girl Tomoya sees and believes in.

If Utaha doesn't win KM, I'll cry.

>>144458960
Megumi will win in the end, unfortunately. That is set in stone.

>>144458960
It seems more like the heroine needs to complement the MC and vice versa. Utaha and Tomoya never had that kind of relationship. They're on completely different wavelengths. No matter how much she tries, she won't have good chemistry or an intimate relationship with him that can bud romance.

>>144459231
I don't think she will lose in her own manga, but Maruto is a well-known sadist and can make Mayu the winner without a problem.

>>144459301
>unfortunately
Why is that? She's the girl who has done the most for Tomoya, and their relationship is what works best for both of them.

>>144459227
>>144459326
I'm pretty convinced now that U won't win based on what everyone is saying. I try to imagine a scenario where they get together and it doesn't make sense, in light of what's happened in vol. 10.

It's looking more and more like her ultimatum about becoming better is closure or an end rather than romantic hopes.

What about E though? There's a lot of parallels between her and U, and I similarly can't imagine a situation where she would get together with T. It feels like the only realistic ending would be something like Spotted Flower, where content creators don't win, but the "outsider" does.

>>144459565
Well, Eriri has it a lot easier than Utaha since she was Tomoya's first love and he still has feelings for her. That's why I mentioned Maruto's other works where that girl typically trumps the competition in the end regardless of the setbacks and apparent impossiblity of the relationship.

The author should have kept focusing on the new circle. Bringing Utaha and Eriri back and keeping the focus on them, especially after all the drama they caused in volume 7 for leaving, and how it meant to symbolize them parting ways for a long while, leaves a bad aftertaste in my mouth.

I guess he can't pull a timeskip like he did in WA2.

>>144459871
I think it's more like he either has no idea how to write for the new circle or he outright hates writing for the new circle.

>>144459723
It feels like there's a pattern with her though, where whenever T gets comfortable with her or they reconcile/get together for a bit, some crisis occurs and Eriri essentially backs out.

I guess realistically it's only happened twice, but she seems to seriously prioritize her identity/work over a relationship, and this makes me think the journey to an end with T and E would be long and hard if not impossible.

Now that I think about it, it feels like the other end of the spectrum compared to U and T. T "rejects" U, but in E and T, E "rejects" T.

>>144459871
>>144459980
What I'm hoping for is that the light being shined on E and U is a precursor to an eventual larger scale conflict between their two circles. That'd be delicious to read about, especially since the author has been teasing it ever since the commercial.

>>144460105
Really? Past Volume 7, it's been really boring to read about Eriri and Utaha. They're always the worst parts of the LNs.

>>144459723
Doesn't the girl that emotionally suffers the most usually win in Maruto's works? If we go by that then either Eriri or Utaha would win. But Megumi is like a wrench in the system and her win is too obvious.

>>144460178
The fact that they're acting so flawed is entertaining to me, as well as how their flawed actions cause conflict on the MC and their group dynamics. I really enjoy the drama that occurs from it - I'd much rather have that rather than see M and T be lovey dovey or something like that.

Eventually I'd like to see focus on the new circle, but it should be based on their conflicts/inadequacies they feel because of E and U. I want to see a combination of suffering and "trumping" on both sides, and wouldn't mind having more E and U arcs to see it.

>>144460257
>the girl that emotionally suffers the most usually win in Maruto's works?
That's not even close to being true.

I can perfectly see a nobody wins ending in Saekano, where Tomoya will still have his feelings for Eriri.

>>144460397
That would set the fanbase on fire and kill Maruto's career, but considering how badly planned the whole thing has been so far, I wouldn't put it past him.

>>144460105
Prioritizing her artist career shouldn't be a problem for Eriri if only she knew how to handle things properly.

But yeah, I agree. It feels like Saekano is the opposite of WA2. Here, the "true love" isn't meant to be. Eriri and Tomoya simply aren't meant to be together. Eriri may have the win served on a silver latter, but she will find a way to fuck it up.

>>144460397
>>144460530
On a scale of 1 to 10, how susceptible to fans and outside pressure was Maruto when writing White Album 2? I've never read the WA VN, but was the ending a surprise or expected by the fanbase?

>>144460726
VNs are different. They're all released at once while LNs are released in stages. And frankly, it's a VN, no one gives a fuck about who wins because everyone wins in their own route.

>>144460726
Kazusa is almost universally the most popular girl in WA2. The thing with VNs is that you write routes for each heroine and they are all canon, though one route is the "main". With LNs, you can only have one route.

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>>144460858
Dumb question then. But why is everyone so sure of Maruto will do? It seems like their conjecturing from his other projects, and some explicitly say that his producer or fans will dictate the ending.

>>144460924
>It seems like their conjecturing from his other projects will dictate the ending.
It's not that I'm saying Eriri will win for sure. In fact I'm a Megumifag and think Megumi will be the winner, but given the author's record, it isn't delusional to think Eriri has a chance.

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She deserves better.

>>144461229
Sorry, it wasn't too clear but I'm actually asking this because of the last Saekano thread, which was admittedly full of shitposts. In it, a lot of people just kind of assumed Maruto was the kind of author to bend over to fan's popularity contests and the like.

>>144461305
It's pretty obvious he bends over considering how he keeps forcing Eriri and Utaha into the story.

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>>144461305
Fun fact, Maruto actually expected the lively, hot and dream of every otaku, Utaha and Eriri to be way more popular than the apparently boring and plain Megumi when he released the first volume. He even assigned Eriri to the first cover. Then Megumi would be winning people over as the story advanced and people discovered more things about her character. That was his plan.

To his surprise, LN readers were all over Megumi since the start. Of course, that didn't change the way he wrote his story. He kept denying Megumi a novel cover and any kind of romantic development with Tomoya for the first 6 volumes while the other heroines got even several novel covers and raised flags with him here and there. And all that paid off with volume 7.

>>144461888
So what he's doing now is just extended teasing?

Or is the takeaway that he'll try to go against the grain because it didn't pan out like he wanted to?

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>>144462309
It seems like this is the editor telling him to drag the story out. He already forced Maruto to delay volume 7 and release a side story in its place to match the airing of the first season of the anime. The story will probably have a volume 7-tier twist shortly before S2 starts. I wouldn't be surprised if he releases another side story next.

>>144462309
Who knows, if that was really the plan then Megumi would have more screentime.

>>144462551
That sounds pretty hilarious, considering how editor/writer relationship is a pretty big dynamic in the writing. He has pretty strong opinions/ideas about them - wondering now if it's a bleed effect.

I find it hilarious that Saekano, a story about making good works and pleasing the audience, is totally botching both parts.

Megumi a shit.

>>144462771
How was Japan's reaction to this volume?

>>144462812
You're a shit.

>>144462836
Same as here, mostly negative.

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>>144462551
Eriri's mom is so hot. I'd pick her over her daughter any day.

Considering volumes 9 and 10 are just Tomoya rehashing both Eriri's and Utaha's plot points into a scenario format, does that mean that Maruto will stretch this out even further and give each of the other girls their own volumes before finally finishing this?

>>144462554
Probably saving her so people to generate more expectation. I'd really would have preferred focus on Izumi and Michiru though instead of Utaha and Eriri though.

>>144463187
There's no material from Izumi and Michiru to rehash.

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>>144463086
She looks like Eriri with black hair though.

Megumi a shit.

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>>144463396
But with a mature and sophisticated aura.

>>144463494
She's older so that makes sense. Eriri's aura is of the cute and angelic kind that contrast with her inner Creator side's self.

>>144457310
I love Megumi but I am already tired of seeing her in that bikini despite being the first time she wears it in the novels.

>>144463835
In canon, it's the second time.

>>144464130
Did I miss something?

>>144464220
Izumi mentions that the old circle held a beach training camp the year before. In the furigana it says it's a S2 spoiler.

>>144464296
Oh, I bet they will pull another episode 0 again.

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in vol7 Tomoya's room having a love consultation session for him. Megumi seems to have gotten Tomoya to admit that Eriri is his first love. She asks him if he's going to confess to Utaha, who graduates the next day. Tomoya says Megumi's questions are getting too much for him(hesitated to answer of his question tsundere) and asserts that he admires Utaha (as a writer).
Kato know the feeling of Tomoya for Utaha
megumi asked him about his feeling about her (Utaha).. directly... and didn't was a clearly answer because his feeling about her ambiguous. And the other hand, he said Eriri was his first love(was).
I would say it's the latter as well. Eriri is very special for Tomoya, but I haven't really seen anything that necessarily indicates Tomoya is still in love with her.
Megumi knows and understands Tomoya quite well, so I would like to think that she already knew the answers to the questions, but she asked him anyway just to confirm.
brief summary about volume 10
>As always Tomoya acted like a huge idiot, this happened mainly because when he heard Utaha rejecting his heroine (which means rejecting the way he feels about Utaha) his feelings were affected too(Why???friendship yes but it is obvious that his feelings for her are stronger) and now Tomoya and Utaha who used to be together now started to move away, on different paths.

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>you will never make a girl this angry because she's jealous of you

>>144457993
Eririnigger is completely destroyed here

>Reading summaries of later volumes
>Megumi just casually eats over at Tomoya's place
>Casually bathes at his place
>Casually sleeps over whenever she wants

This seems too obvious of a win.

>>144466289
But she doesn't have romantic feelings for him.

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>Utaha loses confidence because of Akane, but Eriri is strong enough to withstand Akane now
>Now it's Eriri turn to protect Utaha

Eriri x Utaha is the best pairing reminder.

>>144466649
This is bullshit. If Akane treated Eriri as badly as she treated Utaha, she'd be dead already.

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Too cute

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>>144466289
I hope their intimate and close atmosphere isn't foreshadowing for suffering in the future. Or if there's suffering, there has to be a happy end.

>>144466890
Do you honestly believe Akane would go easy? As I recall, she ripped Eriri hard the first time. Eriri haveimproved but Akane is still harsh. Eriri kinda got used to Akan'e critique and accepted that she still have some ways to go.

Eriri a huge shit.

>>144467097
And Akane has only gotten worse with Utaha. Akane finds some good things with Eriri, with Utaha she rips everything to shreds and calls her a talentless hack.

>>144467139
How is that? Utaha should be improving too. Besides, Eriri cried the time Akane destroyed her in GS, didn't she? She didn't lose confidence then, instead she took it upon herself to improve with strengthened resolve. So Akane going all-out wouldn't make Eriri take a step back.

>>144467369
No, if anything Utaha has gotten worse. Akane said everything she wrote was crap and told her to start over. Meanwhile Eriri's stuff just keeps getting approved.

>>144467601
What's the reason for that? Don't tell me it's boy problems. Utaha is so above that.

>>144467707
Utaha's only written love stuff. This is fantasy adventure.

>>144467747
Could that be Maruto making fun out of himself after writing a sci-fi series like Classroom Crisis when he had only written romace?

>>144467810
Maybe. I feel like Utaha really is Maruto's self-insert.

>>144459545
>Why is that?
Because foretold heroines and their development is boring.

>>144468015
Typical underdogshitter mentality.

>>144460105
>some crisis occurs and Eriri essentially backs out.
>Eriri may have the win served on a silver latter, but she will find a way to fuck it up.
Hello no. Isn't easy, everytime she is things fine Megumi starts making her uncalled remarks and indirect commentaries triggering said situations.

>>144460858
WA2 fandom calls Touma the True End of the game, and if you know Setsuna route, that shit is depressing and in no way is good at all, feels likea bad end.

>>144460924
This time is different, is a LN, Maruto works for a Brand and with an editor.
>says on vol.5 novel is close to end.
>vol.7 feels like an end
>actually isn't actually the End XD
>stretches the shit out of its contents
>brings back characters that left
>reduces the "winner girl" screen time
To be honest the planning for Saekano after vol.7 is shit and is clear that they're only milking the series as much as they can.

>>144467935
He's a fellow writer so he probably feels a sense of kinship. Akari is the same way with Rohan; not the same personality but still a fellow mangaka.

>>144461888
He never said that faggot, stop spreading lies.

>>144462682
I don't know where you got that from but the author-editor relationship can be pretty strained and cause stress affecting the quality of the story.

>>144468272
>everytime she is things fine Megumi starts making her uncalled remarks and indirect commentaries triggering said situations.
Megumi had nothing to do with Eriri's fuck up in leaving the circle, delusional Eririfag.

>>144464356
>there are people who will defend this piece of shit of MC

>>144468272
You don't need to be a genius planner to see that bringing back Eriri and Utaha is a bad idea.

>>144468355
>He never said that faggot, stop spreading lies.
You sure proved him wrong.

I find ironic that as interesting as Megumi could have been her as end girl sounds boring and predictable.

To be honest I don't want any of the girls end with this faggot if spoilers are true. He isn't deserving of such cuties and said cuties don't deserve such a fag that will cause them to suffer.

>>144468015
Most series aren't romantic free-for-alls. If you're rooting of a side chick, you're bringing disappointment on yourself senpai

>>144468472
>2 of 3 herpines leave
>sales decreases
>force them back
This is why.

>>144468207
>>144468475
>>144468358
Here is your (You)

>>144468355
>He never said that faggot, stop spreading lies.
Maybe you should read afterwords and interviews. If you can't, you can check the first blog that did the summaries for this series, I think it's mentioned in one of the comments.

>>144468633
The sales never decreased.

>>144468683
>I was only baiting and pretending to be retarded

>>144467369
>>144467601
Actually, it's different, Eriri takes the critics and as harsh as they are she can endures it because it wasn't Tomoya the one doing the critics.

Utaha in the other hand thought her work is something what Tomoya would like so by doing that she lost focus and Akane called her on that. She realised that and felt like shit.

At least that's why I understood with my moonfu.

>>144468740
>>144468683

>>144468683
Nice argument.

>>144468757
Utaha tried to write like she did for romance novels and gave it a bittersweet ending. Akane called it half-assed and told her to go for a good or a bad end. She also called Utaha talentless. You have to keep in mind she praises Eriri here and there while she's been doing nothing but shitting on Utaha for weeks.

>>144468788
>>144468740

>>144468846
Remove Tomoya.

>>144460105
>What I'm hoping for is that the light being shined on E and U is a precursor to an eventual larger scale conflict between their two circles. That'd be delicious to read about, especially since the author has been teasing it ever since the commercial.
Not happening, author pussied out on this.

>*15,215　Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata Vol.7
>*30,569　Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata Vol.8
>*28,488　Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata Vol.9
>*23,800　Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata Girls Side Vol.2

Sales actually improved after volume 7. That anon is talking out of his ass.

>>144469222
Vol.8 and 9 was when anime was airing right?
Then it explains the decrease for GS and I bet vol.10 will show another decrease.

>>144468846
Utaha brought that upon herself.

>>144468846
>good or a bad end.
Fucking this. A lot of hacks in the industry try too hard to be 2deep4u and fuck up things for worse leaving open plot threads.

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>>144468522
I dunno. If the story ends like in volume 7, Megumi as an end girl would be the most exciting scenario possible.

>>144469701
Jews gonna jew, anime really gave the boost producers wanted but not the development novelfags wanted.

>>144469765
Aniplex could just be dicks and change the LN's story to boost sales.

>>144457310
>Worse girl is not on op
Finally some good taste

>>144469872
I think they already did.

I expected the novels post vol.7 to be perhaps about Tomoya growing the fuck up after E and U left, but nope. It's all shit over again, and I feel likes E and U are being wasted.

>>144469292
I think GS2 had a significant decrease because it was a side story. Vol 10 should sell a bit more, but let's see the actual sales in the next days.

>>144469986
The adaptation for Vol 1-4 wasn't very faithful. I think they knew the LNs weren't that great and that they had to be creative.

>>144469974
But she's there on the left

>>144470143
Very funny faggot. Tell me, what's so good in being a contrarian? Jusy getting them (you)s?

Why didn't Tomoya just give Utuha the dick? She would calm down by a lot and be much less of a drama whore. Megumi wouldn't mind and Eriri needs to hang from a tree.

>>144470296
Megumi hates sharing.

>>144470050
They're doing it wrong though.

>>144470296
He is a faggot, just like Raku but with glasses.

>>144470277
Contrarian? She has maybe 2 fans.

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>>144457310
The series needs more Megumi lewding.

>>144470354
They're doing a great job though. By all means, Saekano should have flopped hard, but they didn't go the easy route with the faithful adaptation and used their brains.

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>>144470354
No, you should be comparing Tomoya to Sorata. They even have the same VA.

>>144470296
He's beta and puts her on a pedestal.

>https://saekanosummaries.wordpress.com/2016/07/21/volume-10-summary/

Feeling tired. I'll write the rest later.

>>144470555
She doesn't want to be on his pedestal since she knows it author-zones her.

>>144470346
She doesn't seem like the jealous type. I read she was fine with Utaha kissing him.

>>144470395
>2 fans
Could you remind me who got life sized "figure"

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>>144470563
Thanks anon.

>>144470434
We are talking about the novels anon not the anime.

>>144470486
Sorata at least make moves on a girl and dated her.

>>144470616
I think you need to reread my post and then take a hard look at the picture.

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>>144470616
They are making one for Utaha as well. I guess no one really gives a shit about Eriri in Japan.

>>144470605
>I read she was fine with Utaha kissing him.

>>144465219
This does not seem like she is fine with it.

>>144470656
I don't think Aniplex has anything to do with the LNs. If they did, you can bet your ass there'd be tons of Megumi pandering.

>>144470616
Idiot.

>>144470881
That was because she thought Faggoya was fooling around with Utaha without being in a proper relationship.

>Tomoya
>having a serious relationship
Pick one Megumi.

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>>144470656
>Sorata at least make moves on a girl and dated her.
And fucked her.

Sakurasou is my tiny bit of hope for Tomoya fucking Megumi in Saekano.

>>144471037
>>144471003

>>144470605
>She doesn't want to be on his pedestal since she knows it author-zones her.
Yeah but the problem is he doesn't understand that. Tomoya is a beta with a complex, any other guy would be more receptive with all that sexy thrown at him.

>>144465219

Wow what a bitch.

>>144471003
Jokes aside, the idea of girls sharing the MC in a harem is hot but sadly almost never happens, unless it is a shitty battle harem.

>>144471160
How do you know Utaha is throwing him "fuck me" signals? She could be teasing him.

>>144470881
>This does not seem like she is fine with it.
That is just a pic of a more or less blank expression.

>>144471511
>How do you know Utaha is throwing him "fuck me" signals? She could be teasing him.
Now you're thinking like Tomoya.

>>144471511
Are you dense? That look is a look of absolute hatred.

>>144471572
>Megumi
>capable of hatred

But she's a complete angel.

>>144457523
>megumifags proven shitpost starters.

>>144471511
Fuck off Tomoya.

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>Izumi realizes she’s had it wrong all along and resolves to draw the perfect tearjerker ending where the blonde heroine gets killed off.

My sides. Izumi needs more focus.

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>Takes a shit
>Calls it a girl

Why the fuck is this allowed?

>>144471833
All of her scenes are so cute and funny. It's a shame she keeps getting shafted for Eriri and Utaha, their scenes seem so rehashed and boring in comparison.

>>144471794
Fuck off.

>>144471895
>Buttblasted megumifags were exposed as blatant "shitposters" at the last thread.
>continues to shitposts at the next thread.

>>144471893
She'll get her chance to remove Eriri soon I hope.

>>144471981
Maruto has done nothing but jerk over how great Eriri is for the past four volumes. It will never happen.

>>144471976
Whatever helps you sleep at night, ESL Eririfag.

>>144471572
It doesn't to me. Maybe it seems like she is a little put off but not furious.

>>144471562
She plays them off as jokes though.

>>144472032
Damn. Maybe he will realize that no matter how hard he shills Eriri she's never going to be popular and thus Izumi will have her time to shine ;_;

>>144472034
Is ESL the new buzzword for Megumishitposters now? Are you really going to nitpick someones grammatical error from over 5 hours ago? You can quit projecting now Purjeet your inferiority complex is showing.

>>144472044
>She plays them off as jokes though.
Silly anon, don't take women at face value.

>>144472180
You have to go back.

>>144472233
Woah Purjeet this is America, you can't just tell us white people to go back to Europe. I get that you're Indian, but you're not that kind "Indian".

>>144472147
I think he knows Eriri will never be popular. He keeps shilling her because she's a personal favorite.

>>144472180
>>144472292
Fuck off crossboarder.

>>144472326
Has Maruto ever stated who is favorite girl is?

>>144472185
She should drag him to a room, be half naked and open her legs.

>>144472347
>Megumifags literally succumbing to /a/'s Godwin's law
Wew lad

>>144472429
It's obviously Utaha. At this point Megumi has so little screentime it's safe to say Maruto hates her.

>>144472451
Not even a Megumifag. Fuck off with your cancerous shit.

>>144472489
If there is one girl Maruto hates it's definitely Michiru. She's probably the kind of girl that tormented him when he started getting into otaku culture.

>>144472429
Maruto's preference in girls were split between Eriri and Utaha. Note how he typically likes to write strong tsundere and older kuudere.

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>>144472519
>Not even a Megumifag
That sounds exactly like what a Megumifag would say. By the way I'm totally a Utahafag too.

>>144472663
>a Utahafag

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Utaha is best girl.

Don't reply if you don't agree with this post.

>>144472588
There is nothing strong about Eriri.

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>>144472694
>literally nitpicking a grammatical error
Sasuga Purjeet your dedication to the English language is an inspiration to us all.

>>144472835
>Purjeet
Is that the name of you dad or something?

>>144470563
>It had been about two hours since we left Tokyo Station. I had finally gotten the honor of sitting next to Megumi…Megumi-sama. Though her words hadn’t gotten any friendlier.

>This dark atmosphere, pressure, despair. This is what it feels like when Megumi gets dark.

When the fuck did Megumi become the yandere?

>“Really, just how much do you love her?”

Megumi should admit that she wants the D.

>>144472898
>Name of you dad
Hey your facade is beginning to crumble. During the last thread you said that "No U" comebacks are not allowed anymore so why the hell are you going back to your cheap tactics again.

>>144473078
I was just asking since you seem obsessed with calling people by that. Or is it part of your crossboarder slang?

>>144473051
Sometimes I think Megumi is secretly a very jealous and spiteful girl.

>>144472733
I wonder why Utaha is still in love with Tomoya. She needs to move on.

>>144472778
I'll bite. Strong have many definitions, and Eriri is strong. She is very passionate, determinate, and works hard even it means getting hurt or hurting others, even if she doesn't want to. But Eriri is weak as well. She has pride and likes to keep a tough front, but she can break down and get emotional, which is reserved for people she doesn't mind showing weakness in front of.

>>144472916
Maruto doesn't know where to go with Megumi's character, so he just made her a yandere.

>>144473250
You can put it that way but no way Eriri would be considered a typical strong female.

>>144473159
Nah I just used the first foreign name that I could think of. If you're not Indian just tell me Pho Nguyen, Xia Po Ming, Carlos Hermanos whatever the hell your name is.

>>144473264
>>144472916
She's just teasing Tomoya. If she was serious about it she would break down like in volume 7.

>>144473351
Having "strong" as a trait is not the same as a strong female character that is defined by being strong. There's a difference.

>>144473400
Ask your mom, I told her my name last night.

>>144473505
Well, you said Maruto likes to write a strong tsundere.

>>144473201
>Sometimes I think Megumi is secretly a very jealous and spiteful girl.
Of course, a little jealousy is cute.

>>144473565
That was about his preference. Eriri is strong and she is a tsundere. The traits that he prefers were split between Eriri and Utaha.

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>>144473513
>Resorting to your mom jokes
Confirmed underaged poster
>last night
Living in the Far East

Why do you keep digging your own grave man, holy shit man just quit now. You know what I'm gonna go ahead and have mercy on you by going to sleep right now. I know it's in the middle of the day there in the Philippines but it's 12 oclock at night for me. Good night Marco Santos, or should I say, "good morning" instead?

Serious talk, Maruto's favorite is either Megumi or Utaha. The former for character and the latter for design.
I don't think he hates anyone in the cast. Suffering is just inherent to his writing ability.

>>144473716
>can't handle the banter
>proyecting

Sure thing, my dear ESL.

Imagine Saekano without Eriri.

>>144473843
it would be 10/10

>>144473201
I think she's putting on that jealous facade to test Tomoya.

>>144473843
It'd be 100x better. Remove Utaha and then you have a true masterpiece.

>>144473843
100% boring.

>>144473899
Nah, Utaha can stay as a breeding sow whose body gets ruined by the pregnancies while Megumi remains perfect for Tomoya.

>>144473812
>I was bantering just fine without resorting to "No U" tactics and your mom jokes
>proyecting

Whatever helps you sleep at night, ESL Megumifag.

>>144473843
Might aswell watch paint dry or go watch Normalfags walk around in the park.

>>144473973
Weren't you going to sleep? Hurry up before your parents nag at you again.

>>144473843
It would be shit.

>>144473843
It would certainly be a massive improvement. Only contrarian faggots would say the series would be shit without her.

>>144473843
Saekano without conflict, drama, and a Goddess like Eriri would be boring and less fappable. Search your feelings, you know it's true.

>Tomoya probably still thinks none of the girls like him after all this

At least faggots like Kodaka were just pretending to be retarded.

>>144474191
The conflict from Eriri is bad and cringeworthy. It's no coincidence that the Eriri volumes are considered the worst.

>>144474012
I will go to sleep now. Thanks for worrying about me but I don't have to worry about my parents nagging me after I moved out of the house, but my Boss might get mad if I'm late tommorow morning. I hope you have a good day yourself Attetekumbo Bimbojata I really hope you find a job soon so that you can finally provide for your family instead of spending hours at the Internet cafe shitposting on 4chan or Scamming old people online.

>>144474191
This. Only insecure Megumifags would disagree.

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>>144474191
Utaha and Michiru already provide all the fapping material I need from this series.

>>144474303
>>144474191
I bet you also thought Aoyama was good for Sakurasou because she brought up conflict and drama.

>>144474275
Nice projections dude.

>>144474375
>Aoyama
>conflict and drama
Pick one.

>>144474422
Watch the show again. I won't tell you to read the LNs since she's irrelevant as fuck there.

>>144474441
>no talent sob story to sympathize with her
>conflict and drama
Again, pick one.

Only post-volume 6 Eriri is good. She went a bit to shit in volume 7 but GS2 made her likeable again. I don't get why her rabid fans try to sell her as the greatest thing to ever graced this series and the only reason the series is worth following when that's far from being true from an objective standpoint.

>>144474498
She had her own drama and conflict. She was a big failure and the show sure was dramatic about that. But then again, the whole second half of the anime was shit.

>>144474375
Eriri is nothing like Aoyama. How the hell can you even compare the two? In any case, Eriri is way more interesting and actually stirs the pot elevant.

>>144474513
You said it yourself, they're rabid fanboys.

>>144474578
>drama and conflict
Describe it. Protip: you can't since Aoyama is a pushover and internalized her issue.

>>144474655
Both appeal to underdog and tsundere fags.

>>144458605
Because she's not Megumi.

>>144474712
That's it? That's a far reaching generalization.

>>144474707
That's exactly her drama and conflict. The show didn't portray it in a comic way, did it?

>>144474513
>greatest thing to ever graced this series and the only reason the series
Nobody does that except Megumifags.

>>144474803
I'll paraphrase the posts above
>But Saekano without X and Y that only Eriri is capable of providing would be boring shit!

>>144474513
Volume 7 made her more interesting and a not a total souless heroine that prioritized wanting the D over everything else though.

>>144474857
We already knew she would prioritize herself over Tomoya since volume 3.

>>144474849
Nice blatant twisted insinuation that still doesn't support your implication. On the other hand, Megumifags always praise how perfect Megumi is, muh blessing, the only girl that matters, and so on.

>>144474954
>100% boring.
>Might aswell watch paint dry or go watch Normalfags walk around in the park.
>It would be shit.
>Saekano without conflict, drama, and a Goddess like Eriri would be boring and less fappable.

Is that better? I'd like you to find posts saying that Megumi is the only girl that matters.

>>144473843
Replace her with a girl who's taller, shy, sports pig tails, wears glasses, has big breasts, no facade.

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>tfw S2 will not have an ED as good as MERRY GO ROUNDO

>>144475026
I'm >>144473947. What's wrong with what I said?

>>144471833
Based.

>>144474232
Still better than 8man who is in complete denial about it.

>>144475060
It will if they have Megumi's VA do the ED and she gives a performance on the level of Axia.

https://soundcloud.com/user-310349678/macross-delta-axia-full-ver

>>144475074
Nothing really. I know all Eririfags care about is their girl and don't really like the series.

So Utuha still pines for Tomoya even after all the shit? I thought she got over him by kissing him.

>>144475131
You're a mind reader? Tell me what I'm thinking now when I read your post.

>>144475138
>implying Maruto knows what he's doing

lol

>>144475127
Megumi's VA has a suprisingly good range. She reminds me a bit of Ai Kakuma.

>>144474232
He knows Utaha is in love with him. He just doesn't reciprocate.

>>144474896
Wait. You're basing it off that one remark made in a humor atmosphere when she and Tomoya shared a real close moment? You can't take that seriously. All the attempts Eriri makes and shows throws her into the serious love interest pool. It isn't until volume 7 that showed she has more character than just that

>>144475177
So you like series that you find 100% boring? That's weird.

>>144474857
Volume 7 shit on her development by making her a coward unable to personally tell Tomoya she was leaving.

>>144475207
>You're basing it off that one remark made in a humor atmosphere when she and Tomoya shared a real close moment?
NO, I'm talking about her flashback.

>>144475197
Vol 10 doesn't make it seem like he does.

>>144475190
No kidding. When I heard her in Cinderella Girls I couldn't tell it was her at all. It's too bad she doesn't get more roles.

>>144457310
These girls would be cool to be with. Eriri would be hell. How can someone want to be with her?

So who wants the dick? Eriri and Utaha only?

>>144475218
That's cute.

Saekano is pretty boring. I'm not a fanboy so I'm not going to be deluded about it. Most harems aren't perfect, and even less are actually good. Most people enjoy harem for a handful of reason. Eriri is my reason and she's the main factor that helps me through a boring series like LN. That isn't to say there aren't a few other things that are enjoyable.

>>144475350
Read the summary. It's written 'Megumi wants the D' all over the place.

>>144475233
Not him, but that's stupid. Eriri development progressed, it didn't take a step back. You personally not liking the way she handled it != backwards development.

>>144475233
She still told him and it was an emotional scene. You're being overly critical for no good reason

>>144475267
When she was a kid and when Tomoya didn't consider her feelings either? That's low and you know it.

>>144475368
I am not seeing it. She really is an enigma.

>>144475357
Looks like I was right after all. But no problem, you're entitled to your opinion.

>>144475492
Kids are actually more likely to cling onto their childhood friend than anything. Most of them only get separated for external reasons. No one can say they didn't see it coming when Eriri pulled that shit in volume 7.

>>144475543
I know right. She's probably just toying with Tomoya.

>>144475604
You technically aren't right. But since I mostly enjoy the series for her, you'll just twist it and say that's the came anyways.

>entitled to your opinion
You sure? You attacked anyone who doesn't agree with your opinion though.

>>144475796
>came
case*

>>144475543
I thought it was pretty clear in the Girls Side 2 that she is confirmed for wanting the dick.

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>>144457310
Blessings.

>>144475796
No, no. I just questioned why Eririfags tend to put her on a pedestal while putting everything else in the series down. It's like they're a hivemind.

>>144475853
Does it really? It seems more vague than what people imply.

>>144475904
Where? Eriri can't even get decent praises without making some other certain fans mad and uptight. In terms of praises, Megumi gets them all the time to high heaven level, so why don't you say anything about that?

How much of the reason why Utaha and Eriri left had to do with Tomoya not giving them the D?

>>144475977
Maybe that's just how I saw it from the summaries. That last conversation with sleeping Eriri though was pretty definitive to me.

>>144476083
>Utaha - 100%
>Eriri - 50%

>>144475026
>Actually quotes them this time
>And still none of them directly supports his implications
Not better for you. People that don't agree with your or like her as a favorite doesn't mean greatest hing ever. And there's nothing wrong with having her as a favorite because people have different opinions.

Suck it.
>>144244409
>>143512872
>>134814368
>>133072450
>>131897826
>>137394003
>>139879078

>>144475981
Because it's actually rare to see someone praising Megumi but not liking the rest of the series.

>>144476127
I've seen tons of people who likes Eriri most also like Utaha and the otaku culture aspect of the series. So, what now?

>>144476190
Good for them? They don't represent the group I was referring to.

>>144476127
>Saying they like everything (when they don't), but Eriri just to spite her fans and shitpost her
The only thing rare here is seeing them not do this.

>>144476253
Nice persecution complex.

>>144476249
>group
You said every Eririfag.

>>144476289
I said her rabid fans.

>>144475981
>>144476253
This is true. inb4 denial.

>>144476285
Nice irony.

>>144476125
>totally missing the point
>quoting random threads and not posts

>>144476321
>I know all Eririfags
Direct quote.

>>144476332
Nice double irony.

>>144476356
>Implying
>Not reading them to know full context

>>144476360
>I know all Eririfags care about is

Read it properly this time.

>>144476389
Doesn't work like that when you're the one being ironic.

>>144476423
How is that different? You assumed to speak for all fans.

>>144476442
But I'm not being ironic.

>>144476469
>all fans
No, all those rabid fans care about. But to be honest, Eririfags saying that they like Megumi or Izumi or Michiru or Tomoya or the story overall are so rare they might as well not exist.

>>144476480
You won't fool anyone. You can't even say anything concrete against >>144476125 that proves you wrong.

>>144476410
Those threads are full of tiring shitstorms except that Antimagic thread that I don't know why you even quoted.

>>144476565
>that proves you wrong.
You would like to believe that right?

>>144476513
You're backpedaling now. You generalization and implied something that isn't true in a general sense, and you did that by talking about all of her fans. Even in your reply to me, you literally said you know what every Eririfag thinks and likes.

>>144476631
It does. It's okay, you're scared and want to excuse yourself by saying reading is too hard.

>>144476666
>backpedaling
No, you can't read. Also, their posts are simple just like their tastes. It's not hard at all to infer what they think and like.

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what if instead of a final volume, you get a short VN for all possible endings

to fit with the theme of the game

>>144476717
>wasting time reading shitty old threads
Just give me concrete quotes if you care so much.

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>>144476806
Ben-to kinda already did that.

>>144476774
If I can't read then we wouldn't be having this argument. You dropped "rabid fans" and connected that to the believe you knew every Eririfag. You don't differentiate them or specific a certain group. Your statements are clearly worded in a way to mislead people into thinking every fans act the way you implied here >>144474513. By the way, your opinion does not equal fact.

What they like is is as obvious and simple as any other fans. Your point here is moot.

>>144476992
You really don't get it. Their hivemind-like responses to the post asking about Saekano without Eriri was what made me question their reasoning. So every Eririfag that falls within that mindset is included in my argument and if they don't share that mindset they do not. Simple as that.

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Mayu is cute. CUTE!

>>144477248
Your post here is the "what I meant to say" response. I laid out conclusive facts based on your quotes and logic that isn't misinterpreted at all. Your wording and assertions was clear.

Most of the quotes you greentexted hardly supports your assertion. You quoted mine and even the anon who made a reasonable argument. It's obvious doubt in your mind here is posts that you disagree with, probably because they have the word boring in them.

>>144477474
Has Norway gotten off their asses and translated anything related to Saekano yet?

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Megumi come to stop the arguments

>>144475884
Old hag!

>>144477525
No, you assumed I was speaking for all Eririfags because you misread one of my lines.

Saying the series would be boring or shit without one side character is confirming they don't really care about the series. It's not about disagreeing, because they're entitled to their opinions, but the fact most Eririfags who post here only bother to the series for one girl and yet are so vocal and hivemind-like about it.

>>144477691
I want Megumi to stop my erection.

>>144477867
>misread
Show it then. If you can then I'll concede, but I've gone over your posts several times and I'm certain I didn't misread anything.

>one side character
The truth you've been hold down finally slips up. You're definitely a hater just saying if you believe the second main girl is just some side character. I'll humor though. Saying it's shit or boring without her is an opnion of those who obviously likes her most and it's "entitled" opinion. There's no doubt for you to pick at. There's no designation that suggests greatest thing ever strawman you implied. People can like other things, but still watch mainly for certain characters. That's nothing new around here.

Megumifags actually do what you complained about more than anyone, yet you don't say at hing about that. Why? Because you like her and in your opinion that's true. To sum it up here, it's okay if fans you like are vocal and mainly care only about Megumi, but it's not okay for fans that do the same for Eriri, regardless if they like other things or not too.

>>144478173
>show it then
>>I know all Eririfags care about is their girl and don't really like the series.
All they care about, not they all care about.

For the rest, yes, I already told you they're valid opinions. The greatest thing ever is my interpretation of the posts saying the series would be boring because Eriri oh so singlehandedly makes it interesting with her drama and conflict, aspects that aren't exclusive to her by the way. Call it strawman if you want but that's how I see those posts. And no, I've seen arguments even between Megumifags, they are the largest group and their replies at least are varied. In the end, that's the issue here, the hivemind-like replies.

>>144477532
No. I wish I could be more advanced in my moonrunes to help translating shit.

>>144478475
>All they care about, not they all care about.
You forgot >>144476992. Your wording was explicit. There's is no misunderstanding. You may have cleared it up now by expressing what you intended to convey, but that's a different point.

You're trying too hard to make people who likes her most and watch or read it for her into a special case that needs to be examined and criticize when it isn't new or exclusive to her, it's not even remotely new or exclusive to harem in general for tons of anons. Occam's razor. The reason you make a big deal out of this is because you don't like her. That's it.

>that's how I see those posts
Through biased vision since Megumifags do it too. They are the largest base so they are objectively higher on the vocal count. Check your original argument. The real issue was you generalizing entire fanbase for something that actually seldom happens in the way you were strawmanning.

>>144475350
The main 4.

Megumi a shit.

Eriri a feces.

>>144478905
>all they care about is != they all care about this
>You're trying too hard to make people who likes her most and watch or read it for her into a special case that needs to be examined and criticize when it isn't new or exclusive to her
Not really. Utahafags like Utaha but they are hardly ever vocal about things that aren't Utaha. They don't try to shill her as the ultimate reason the series is good. Eririfags on the other hand treat their opinions as facts and try to convince everyone that Eriri is what makes the series good. Every Eririfag who talks about the series is like this and that's what's bothersome. Questioning those fans isn't generalizing.

>>144475197
Dude, the guy literally implied there was no way she could be in love with him and said hat to her face.

He isn't pretending like Kodaka, Tomoya is a full blown asexual autist.
>>144475350
Everyone.

When will Maruto drop the a-bomb on the fans so there can finally be peace?

>>144476886
But bento's mc was good.

>>144483635
>the guy literally implied there was no way she could be in love with him and said hat to her face.
I wonder if that hurts.

>>144483635
I don't remember that part happening. Utaha literally kissed him, there is no way he doesn't get it by now.

>>144483753
You mean burrying Eriri in the desert?

>>144488516
That doesn't mean anything if Megumi doesn't win.

>>144488575
She will. This does not slip.

>>144486232
Sounds like Volume 10.

>>144489056
Yeah, I don't remember any part in V10 where Tomoya acts like he doesn't know Utaha loves him.

>>144488575
She will win and it'll be glorious.

Man, this week has been a delicious butthurt party of shippers of series that just ended. I wonder when will this one end.

>>144489041
>>144489559
There are people on this board who genuinely think that Megumi won't win for sure and will act all surprised when it finally happens.

>>144489994
It will depend on how Maruto plays it out too. Something like the end of the WA2 anime will make most people go nuts.

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>>144490487
>It will depend

>>144489559
It's probably going to be an open end.

>>144490620
I mean, there are ways this author can elicit an emotional response from the most people possible, even those who are extremely familiar with his works and/or well-versed in the harem genre.

>>144490776
That'd be lame but I'd take it over an upset Eriri victory any day.

>>144490776
No way it ends without a climax between Tomoya/Megumi with Eriri getting silver/bronze/poop medal.

Even fucking Nisekoi of all things had a romantic conclusion. I don't see why this won't have one.

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I'm going to marry Megumi and make her the happiest girl in the world.

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>>144471833
>tfw no qt illustrator gf who wants to remove Eririscum

>>144457539
I do because I'm caucasian and like normal asses as opposed to huge bubblebutts.