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Read the guide before asking questions.
I love maki tbqh...
Also has anybody ever read the entire anki manual?
Im going to read it now since I have extra time.
Hi. Little bit confused about the highlighted part. Context is the protagonist's gay friend is sad that he's more interested in the girl that doesn't wear underwear to school than him. Is the protag going on to say that he could ruin her election chances and make her social life die because he could tell people she doesn't wear panties to school? Any help is appreciated, the following sentences are also bothering me a little cause I'm not sure if I read that right.
>decided to stop putting it off and spent the last few hours going over katakana
Should I spend some hours tomorrow going back over both kana to hammer it in before starting grammar?
>Is the protag going on to say that he could ruin her election chances and make her social life die because he could tell people she doesn't wear panties to school?
how the FUCK did you get that.
It's not like that.
"chairmans" are like a species on the top of the female status right?
(not really sure on this but meh)
The serious, stiff chairmans are extinct.
Nowadays chairmans are elected (to be in their place),
They erroneously think the class revolves around them,
They push annoying stuff to others,
And to be liked by the teachers they go on (lots of adjectives of frivolous, flippant, suspicious here) smiling to everyone (acting nice).
That's the sorta species they are.
They seriously should die. || They seriously make me want to die || <another annoyed to death expression here>
(not sure here)
I see a lot of people recommend starting with はなひらっ！ or よつばと！, but the list says とらぶる is easier. Any recommendations there? I've finished Timmy's Basic Grammar and kind of want to start reading now.
Why not just try it and see for yourself, they're all slightly varying difficulty levels, but with enough patience and time you can slowly suffer through whichever one you want
If you read a bit further he doesn't really like girls in general, so here he's saying that class reps exemplify the things he dislikes in girls
Oh, I think I got it now, thanks.
Not sure how I'd englishfy that... "they get on their high horses"?
Or something else similar
Seconded, I thought anons were being lazy asking for sauce but it actually isn't on ex, google, tiny, iqdb or saucenao...
ノリ is the second katakana word that sorta has the same meaning as it's regular meaning (乗り) but gives a (sorta) different meaning.
I only knew イク before that was used like this.
I think I need to read some more of other type of works...
Oh that too, but that isn't used in a different meaning. I think anyone could read アレ as あれ and have no issue understanding what it is.
While for イク you'd read that and "huh? where is she going now? Isn't she in the middle of... oh."
Same for ノリ, and this one pushes it even deeper imo. Cause they're like... "riding the mood" or something like that.
Why is it that particles are considered stand-alone words when romanized, but considered suffixes when words are divided in textbook examples?
Haven't ran PD for awhile. Might be more to find.
I find it hard to believe that the uploading scene in Japan is this dead. Those aren't even obscure titles I'm looking for..
Hm, judging by the file size those are probably the screenshot versions. Maybe it really doesn't exist after all
Because grammatically every particle attaches to the word/phrase before it, so that's how it naturally parses in japanese. But in romaji it starts looking like a single word and looks weird
>I find it hard to believe that the uploading scene in Japan is this dead. Those aren't even obscure titles I'm looking for..
More like Japanese people don't care about epub versions and are perfectly happy with scans.
Well putting it as a suffix is misleading if it is referring to a whole phrase like if you were to do
>kamino nagai onnaga suki
Romaji really only has two big purposes - to help very beginners read the language a bit and to help people who don't speak any japanese read japanese words approximately correctly. Putting particles as suffixes helps neither of those.
>how many are piratefags who aren't willing to buy the stuff they want to read
0. Nips like to brag and show off the things they buy even if they have to take screenshots of their e-libraries.
How the hell do you even buy Kindle versions on amazon.co.jp anyways? It tries to do some weird digital transfer shit and tells me to buy it on my local amazon or something, even though it doesn't exist there
If it helps make you feel better, unless you take 2 years before you attempt any native material your speed at the beginning is pretty irrelevant. All that matters is how much you read/listen once you can start and that you don't settle for being able to read/listen to easy material and stop challenging yourself.
What's a time frame to achieve N4 proficiency? Not to say that's what I'm aiming for, but just learned that my friend who's been studying japanese for quite some time now barely passed N4 apparently, seems pretty basic
I don't think you need a VPN. I'm in Europe and I buy them from JP Amazon all the time without one. I know that you need a VPN to buy in the USA Kindle store though because it's region locked. Could it be that people in the US are locked out of other Amazon's services as well? Do you have a screenshot of the message the site shows you?
Meant to ask "normal time frame". Basically what I was getting at was when it's expected to achieve such proficiency if you're at least semi-serious about learning Japanese, which friend seems to be
I've found for both reading and listening there's a nice medium in skill for super effective study. If you're too good you don't get much out of it, and if you're too shit then you need to look stuff up frequently which results in way too many breaks to surf the internet if your attention is shit like me.
I finally can watch anime well enough to actually watch it so my listening practice is way more effective now since fewer pauses = fewer distractions. Feels pretty good.
FUCK ME, I just went to check the message but this time it wasn't here and I accidentally bought a volume of 空ろの箱と零のマリア
Guess that anon got lucky, I'll rip it tomorrow.
They don't care.
>tfw you figure out the secret to writing in nip is to just write the sentence backwards
I honestly don't remember but I think I copy pasted the address of one of the packages I had around from another seller. It should be fine as long as you don't accidentally set it as a default address and ship your other Amazon JP purchases there. If you still can't do it even after entering an address, look for something that says Manage Content and Devices in your account options. See if Japan is listed as a country in the settings and if you have a device set.
Like the other anon said though, be careful when you're done setting everything up because they activate this thing where you automatically make a purchase if you click the button right next to the book. There's no confirmation page or anything.
>tfw you become so good at Japanese you don't have to think about grammar when writing
Whenever I see a new word when reading I add it to anki, that's fucking it.
Nowadays it's like 3 new kanji a day tops if I read some complicated stuff, and zero if I just read comedy manga like a lazy piece of shit.
>tfw 90.5% retention today
im gonna make it lads
There's a deck that I've neglected for quite some time because of school+recovering from surgery. There's a backlog of nearly 900 cards. I'm contemplating reseting it and starting from the beginning again, is that a good idea?
How far in were you? I was like 1k cards into core and it became impossible for me to use a computer for 2.5 months. I did reviews for a couple weeks and recuperated pretty quickly and now I'm at 1.7k. Information you learned then forgot can be relearned pretty easily.
It was one of two decks that I use in Anki. The other was Core deck covering the 6k tier of vocab that was easy for me to catch up on while the one in question is a discovered vocab deck with about 1100~ terms. I think I'll try and catch up the normal way even though it'll take a while.
>download Hantsu x Trash OVAs
>first one only had a subbed torrent for it
>watching it and not reading the subs at all
>until half way through
>translation is just wrong
>read the subs from that point on
>every second line is wrong
Is one of you faggots translating for this Wien-Subs group or what? Probably the worst subs I have ever seen
>end up putting into google translate
it's a romanian group. they hardly know english 笑
佐鳴湖なら Sanaruko lake か、lake sanaru だよ。前者は湖とlakeで意味がかぶってるけど、ごめんねおにいちゃん
I can recall the reading and meaning of words when they're written in kanji form, but I can't read shit when they're written in hiragana, save for very common words. It's like the kanji->hiragana conversion in my mind only works one-way. What do?
Greetings, Japanese-speaking fellows. Is there some Rikaisama fork that lets you export meanings other than the first? The sticky mode export trick doesn't always work, so sometimes I have to copy-paste the meaning using sticky mode, then put the word in the http://assets.languagepod101.com/dictionary/japanese/audiomp3.php?kana=XXX&kanji=YYY url to get the correct audio for it.
It's all very 面倒臭い.
>when EOPs say they can "kind of" understand anime with the subtitles off
>when EOPs repeat random words like "sugee"
>when EOPs completely butcher a word they just heard or type it completely wrong
>when EOPs think English loan words are somehow hilarious
I seriously thought this kind of thing was just limited to 12 year olds in the comment sections on Youtube, it's sad that the more Japanese I learn, the more second-hand embarrassment I get from weebs.
Quick, I need to learn Japanese before August 4. Where do I start?
To be honest I didn't even try I just saw that it was all words I had never seen and realized the できない
After all if you're using Japanese in real life you aren't gonna have multiple choices laid out for you to choose from.
>at 2k total mined words
heheh, only 28k more to go till im fluent
>it was all words I had never seen
well, kanken is a kanji test, not a word test and most of those are joyo in jukugo with non-counter-intuitive meanings
I can forgive the 1st one since 閨 is hyougai but 行 況 会 業 are simple
next time don't pee your pants just because it's kanken
Can you read like articles on NHK easy reasonably well yet? http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/
If yes, then see you've made progress. If no, you should maybe change your learning routines, they don't seem to be very efficient
You have all the anime, manga and VN characters in the world to choose from and you choose ponies
I always figured bronies were just people that craved that waifu feel but were too retarded to get into Japanese shit, what's your excuse?
>I'm not even a brony. I just have a few mlp pictures
I'm not gay. ive just sucked a few dicks and took one in the ass
I really do hope you get banned forever, but I also hope the people dumb enough to respond to you get banned too. It's not like you were hiding anything when you posted with Maki, and yet a bunch of retards who were either too new or too stupid to notice still replied.
that boy needs therapy
Why the fuck didn't I just try to learn jap as a fucking teenager instead of tugging my cock for hours.
6.3% could be legit given the correct circumstances.
>Do the typical anon method of hitting 'good' the first time you see the card (I knew I didn't know it, that is the correct answer - GOOD)
>Review it again 10 minutes later and get lucky
>Do 100 new cards
>Be sleep deprived/drunk the next day
>100 reviews of cards you don't know
I don't. I did a year ago, and I could pretty comfortably write out any kanji from memory, but after the radical mnemonics faded and I stopped bothering with practice, I forgot the vast majority.
You only need reading and typing.
one rep is enough if I get it right, I don't really see the point of covering a page in one sitting, I have way too many daily reviews for that
just make sure you're being accurate and using correct stroke order (or that whatever stroke order you're using leads to the correct result) or else it defeats the purpose of writing
First light, with the dew still fresh apon the morning grass, I haul my pack up with effort.
The birds are restless as I note the chill breeze sweeping up at me from the bedrock. There marks my quarry, old whitestone that moss has made its own journey.
I set my pack down and grab my tools, working away each kanji, the hammers wooden handle wearing down into the many callouses of my hands that anki brings.
i dont write anything you fuckknuckle
>Do the typical anon method of hitting 'good' the first time you see the card (I knew I didn't know it, that is the correct answer - GOOD)
This is literally what I do 99 times out of 100 because I'm not retarded.
>Review it again 10 minutes later and get lucky
You either know the card 10 minutes later, or you don't, dude. There's no fucking difference apart from saving a minute.
My retention is at 94%, before you ask.
Yes. The first time you see the card you're not expected to know it. So if you realise you don't know the card you have correctly answered the card.
If you know the actual word/can guess it then you mark it as easy.
this whole time ive been doing that wrong too..
Why would you think that you need to see every single card twice within the span of a minute? What the fuck would that even accomplish?
The first time you see the card, that's zero. You look at it again 10 minutes later to see if you remembered it. If you didn't, give it another 10 minutes.
So here's a question. . .will you ever get to the point where you are literally indistinguishable from a native?
I read a specific blog, and the poster is clearly native Japanese. However, he often posts in English, and it's so good you assume that he's either lived in America for a time (amongst the nogs), or is part American.
"Today, I couldn't not bump this new Riri x Drake shit"
Do you think it's possible after 7 years? That's my goal. (As someone who's 7 months deep in intermediate hell)
How do you guys hide learning japanese from your families and friends?
I personally only look up japanese shit with internet explorer that doesn't share information with my real browser.
If my family or friends walk next to my laptop I fucking alt+tab it to firefox like I'm doing something else.
The worst I've gotten was when one of the girls in my college class saw me writing kanji in my notebook.
I fucking had to explain that I was drawing a Chinese logo as a tattoo I wanted for a while.
She believed me, but that shit was too close. Stopped studying Japanese during classes.
Is there some kind of offline equivalent of realkana I can put on a laoptop?
I've got two weeks coming up at work where I have nothing to do but look busy with no internet.
May as well learn this shit
>How do you guys hide learning japanese from your families and friends?
i dont because they really dont care. ausfags are basically all normies that drink piss and laugh too long at bad jokes
Can someone explain why kanji is used in furigana here. I have never seen this done anywhere else. I'd assume it was a typo if it wasn't the only time furigana was used after using the same batch of subs for 20 episodes
Why would you hide it? Learning a mew language is something to be pride of. My family encourages me and is happy I'm doing something productive instead of only playing video games on my spare time.
Because chances are you'll fail.
>Parents find out
>They tell the entire extended family that "anon is learning Japanese!"
>Hey anon, I heard you've learnt Japanese. Say something to me
Furigana isn't just for explaining pronounciation etc, it can be used to give alternate words to explain the meaning, nuance, stylistic choice etc. Kanji in furigana is pretty common in for example VNs
Not sure why it's used in that case there though
I don't really give a fuck who knows, I don't try and hide it but I also never talk about it
My family don't know what the difference is between China and the rest of Asia, and constantly ask me how my "Chinese is going", and my friends are all ultra normies that don't understand the concept of doing something that you're not getting paid for
Needless to say I'd rather just keep that shit to myself
My family never touches my computer, probably because I've always made a huge deal out of it even if they just look at my screen.
I think the reason it works is because they all pretty much sense that using a computer is like my only hobby and source of relaxation, and I've explained to them that when I think someone might possibly be looking at my screen I get really self-conscious, even if I'm not doing anything weird, and it fucks up my ability to relax.
Maybe you could try saying something like that
Nah they're just stereotypical retarded normies, if anything they're proud that I can speak another language, they just can't seem to get to grips with the fact that asian countries other than China exists
I only do it when I'm alone and I use my tablet with headphones. If someone comes in my room, I just press the lock button. No one has any reason to try and use any of my devices so I have nothing to worry about, but I put passwords on all of them regardless.
Sometimes, when you want to be """clever""", you can write the implied meaning of what you're saying normally, and then write the literal meaning of what you're saying in the furigana. Or the other way around.
If anyone ever finds out that you know Japanese, they will ask you to translate every goddamn instruction manual and street sign they see, and then they'll act like you're the asshole when you tell them to stop wasting your time.
>someone mentions you are learning Japanese to someone else
>"Really? Say something in Japanese, anon!"
Japanese grades are the same as UK years plus 1.
Their Grade 1 is equivalent to our Year 2.
Their Grade 10 is equivalent to our Year 11.
Their Grades 11 and 12 are equivalent to our two years of College (or Years 12 and 13 of Sixth Form, if you were a posh cunt).
Yeah, but it's a bothersome process.
Manually put the save file from anki PC on to your mobile. Then when you return home put the mobile save on to the PC.
Repeat this process every time you switch from PC to mobile and back.
It might take 2 minutes every day.
Depression is genetic.
I have 0 friends. The only time I leave my home is for class. Afterwards I return immediately.
I have never been outside of my hometown. I speak so little of my native language that I have struggles to even respond to my teachers in my own language.
But guess what. I'm the happiest person I know.
Meanwhile my Normie brother with a child hundreds of friends and a good career has crippling depression. With a suicide attempt that paralyzed his left arm permanently.
I believe depression is a mental disease you are born with. Like autism, you can't really cure it. You were always meant to be depressed or not depressed at all.
I don't know if I'd say that, I've had phases of depression before, but I managed to get out of them, now I haven't been depressed in years despite being full NEET mode
I'd imagine it is possible for anyone to get out of it, it's just hard as shit and depends a lot on the luck of your circumstances
If I keep doing 20 new words a day in anki, playing some VN every day, and start listening more when I have a better vocabulary, can I get to the point where I'd be able to take normie Japanese classes when I study abroad? Pic related is J-Cat score from a few months ago
hahahaha you fucking loser.
My two trips to Japan were fuckfests with cute girls I met online.
>tfw I know Japanese now and enjoy coming to these threads once every few months to watch retarded weeaboos attempt to learn a language they'll never really master
I've been learning Japanese since 2010 and I can only barely read simple manga now. It's not a problem with being a slow learner, I just got distracted too easily and too often and once I missed my reps for a few days I lost all confidence and ended up avoiding my reps and learning in general for several months while I did stupid shit like play vidya instead, and this cycle happened several times.
I started late 2009 and can have fluent conversations. I still struggle to read VNs written by autistic edgelords but other than that I'm fine.
It's nice not having to actually study this language anymore. I've moved on to Mandarin.
Any brain "disease" is also bullshit. It's just weak-willed people trying to find excuses for their actions/consequences.
I don't mean to brag but I'm the unluckiest person I've ever, ever seen. I even joke to friends that the universe conspires against whatever I want to do currently, and they even say "it doesn't look like you're kidding".
I could simply say "baaawww the world hates me" and do nothing being diagnosed with some Z brain disease but I say "fuck you world" and move on.
As twin studies show, genetics play an important role for depression, although one can't claim there to be a monocausality.
>How do we know that genes play a role in causing depression? Scientists look at patterns of illness in families to estimate their “heritability,” or roughly what percentage of their cause is due to genes. To do this we find people with the disease who have a twin, and then find out whether the twin is also ill. Identical (monozygotic) twins share 100% of their genes, while non-identical (“fraternal” or dizygotic) twins share 50% of their genes. If genes are part of the cause, we expect a patient’s identical twin to have a much higher risk of disease than a patient’s non-identical twin. That is the case for major depression. Heritability is probably 40-50%, and might be higher for severe depression.
>This could mean that in most cases of depression, around 50% of the cause is genetic, and around 50% is unrelated to genes (psychological or physical factors). Or it could mean that in some cases, the tendency to become depressed is almost completely genetic, and in other cases it is not really genetic at all. We don’t know the answer yet.
>We can also look at adoption studies, to see whether an adopted person’s risk of depression is greater if a biological parent had depression. This also seems to be the case.
You do realise people that have shit like depression are incapable of just saying "fuck you world" and moving on, right? If it was possible for everyone to just magically declare that everything's amazing at their own will then surely shit like negative emotions in general and suicide wouldn't even be a thing
I can't help but call bait whenever someone says this kind of shit because it just seems like no one could possible be stupid enough to believe it, but you never know, there are a lot of stupid people in the world
I shouldn't even reply, I really don't want the thread to get derailed or anything
>People in families with shit, poverty and problem filled lives are more likely to be depressed
>It must be genetics! But we don't know what gene causes it!
>Oh, also adopted people are more likely to feel unwelcome and depressed, much like their parents who never wanted them, ie. genetics
Notice they're just looking at patterns and "estimating" "heritability"? Anyway, this is getting out of DJT
If you really care, read this:
The issues you raised here >>144487231 are easily controlled for, by the way.
He *specifically* said
>although one can't claim there to be a monocausality.
If you're responding saying that genetics *can't* cause depression, you're objectively wrong.
Other things also cause depression, but genetics objectively cause depression.
Jesus I don't get IME, how do you customize it
I want to get rid of "EN" mode because it takes me one additional ALT+Shift to get to Japanese since my default is DEU. Anyone know how to do this?
>Not becoming skilled at japanese and opening a ramen shop or becoming a seiyuu in Japan
Why are you even learning Japanese?
>tfw Jena only has JLPT N2 despite sounding like a native
Yeah but that guy is probably the equivalent of muslim refugees in Europe.
I know A 60 year old turkish man that lived in my country for 40 years and doesn't speak a single WORD of my language. Not even hello and goodbye.
You can actually notice that he is an older man now with brain damage due to Alcohol. Why the fuck does he talk so slowly like a 50 year old alcoholic. He is only 40.
He only has like 20k subscribers what do you expect
It's not like his videos were ever that big, he's just got somewhat of a name for himself here and in other niche Japanese learning communities
didn't mean to talk shit, but actually it's not so bad, it just took a few days to get the views on.
It just felt like it wasn't that much when you compare it to the first few japanese lessons, my bad
Is there some lighthearted video content that I can watch that still teaches me some japanese while also giving me some downtime?
I usually lay in bed for an hour with my laptop before sleeping.
Instead of watching random let's plays I would rather watch some videos that actually thought me some shit.
Compare even his first few to his last few, and you'll see a huge disparity. It's basically that way for any learning thing period. Which just goes to show that if you make it anywhere in moon you're clawing over all those thousands of failed weebs who didn't get further than kana and the first chapter of genki.
Nihongo no Mori on Youtube. It's great because you learn grammar concepts while also gaining listening comp. since most of the videos are in JP. They are some light-hearted skits and jokes thrown about during the lessons.
I don't have "Settings" there. I'm on Windows 8.1
I don't even have EN here in these options, it only shows up in IME. Maybe it's because my OS is English, I dunno
I have the opposite problem
I just want to read all day, but I'm busy with real life.
My copy of the Kodansha Kanji Learner's course just got here.
Look at the clock in the bottom right corner.
Now look a little bit to the left.
There should be an empty space in your task bar.
The task bar is the bar at the bottom of your screen.
On that empty task bar space, click with the right button of your mouse.
Now look for something that says Tool Bars or similar. It should be the first option.
Now look for something that says Idiom Bar. It should be the second option if you count from the bottom. Tick it.
Now you should have the bar with two letters next to the clock. Now you can right click on it like the other anon showed you on that webm.
If this doesn't work, give up. You will never learn Japanese.
This is how it looks for me.
>Now you should have the bar with two letters next to the clock.
I had that from the beginning - right clicking on those letters doesn't give me Settings, and left clicking brings me to this >>144490241
I think it depends on what you want to say.
~ながら seems to be used like "during X, Y goes"
~間に seems more like something regular and in the past "in the time X happens"
~時に seems more like "at that time of X"
~と中で seems more appropriate for something like "when I was in the middle of X"
And probably tons of others but these are the ones I can remember now.