Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1609

日本人, 人類恨之

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今日も一日「ぞい」と言うぞい

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>>144454851

書き込み

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEULybZnLO8

これを見てて下さい
楽しいぞ

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I love maki tbqh...

Also has anybody ever read the entire anki manual?

Im going to read it now since I have extra time.

>>144454942
I'm afraid I've already watched it about 600 times since the last time you posted it

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Hi. Little bit confused about the highlighted part. Context is the protagonist's gay friend is sad that he's more interested in the girl that doesn't wear underwear to school than him. Is the protag going on to say that he could ruin her election chances and make her social life die because he could tell people she doesn't wear panties to school? Any help is appreciated, the following sentences are also bothering me a little cause I'm not sure if I read that right.

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>>144454950
私も真姫が大好きよ

>>144454991
なんか…　ごめんね

屁

>>144454813
can you fuck off with your dyke shit op

>>144455169
How about you fuck off out my thread BITCH

>>144454813
>decided to stop putting it off and spent the last few hours going over katakana
Should I spend some hours tomorrow going back over both kana to hammer it in before starting grammar?

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おはようおにいちゃん

きのうはよくねむれた？

>>144455063
>Is the protag going on to say that he could ruin her election chances and make her social life die because he could tell people she doesn't wear panties to school?

how the FUCK did you get that.

>>144455221
糞暑いからまったく眠れない

>>144455289
im not as good at japanese as you, thats how

>>144455221
いいえぜんぜん

夢にいもうとさんの頭をなでなでしている

そして目を覚まして、いもうとさんがいないと気付いて、泣き出してしまった

よくなかったよ

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>>144454813
いい写真

にこまき大好き

>>144455335
The basic idea of the sentence comes from

委員長なんて{description}
そんな人種だ

>>144455482
>写真
お前の頭は大丈夫ですか

>>144455502
thanks ill give it another shot

>>144455183
if no one tells you how gay your thrad is how else will u ever know

>>144455063
> そんなことはない。
It's not like that.

> 委員長なんて人種は女子の筆頭格じゃないか。
"chairmans" are like a species on the top of the female status right?
(not really sure on this but meh)

> 真面目でお堅い委員長なんて絶滅した。
The serious, stiff chairmans are extinct.

> 今時の委員長はその場のノリで選ばれて、
Nowadays chairmans are elected (to be in their place),

> 自分中心でクラスが動いていると勘違いして、
They erroneously think the class revolves around them,

> 面倒事は他人に押し付けて、
They push annoying stuff to others,

> 先生から好かれるためにヘラヘラと胡散臭い愛嬌を振りまく。
And to be liked by the teachers they go on (lots of adjectives of frivolous, flippant, suspicious here) smiling to everyone (acting nice).

> そんな人種だ。
That's the sorta species they are.

> マジ死に晒せ
They seriously should die. || They seriously make me want to die || <another annoyed to death expression here>
(not sure here)

>>144455519
全然平気です

あのOPって何を言うですか？写真じゃないの？

I see a lot of people recommend starting with はなひらっ！ or よつばと！, but the list says とらぶる is easier. Any recommendations there? I've finished Timmy's Basic Grammar and kind of want to start reading now.

>>144455759
>(to be in their place),
>その場のノリで

Nah.

>>144455759
much appreciated never read a LN before and this is a huge leap from manga for me

Anyone know where I can find text / epub files of 空ろの箱と零のマリア? The ones on nyaa/CoR are screenshot files

>>144455482

What's the source for this?

>>144455875
Why not just try it and see for yourself, they're all slightly varying difficulty levels, but with enough patience and time you can slowly suffer through whichever one you want

>>144455759
> 委員長なんて人種は女子の筆頭格じゃないか
If you read a bit further he doesn't really like girls in general, so here he's saying that class reps exemplify the things he dislikes in girls

>マジ死に晒せ
マジ死にやがれ

>>144455771
「映像」だと思うよ。
「画像」や「画」もかもしれない。

>>144455904
(to be on top of that place)?

>>144456072
>(to be on top of that place)?
Still no.

http://www.weblio.jp/content/ノリ
>その場の雰囲気に合わせて調子づくこと。場の空気に乗る形で物事を行うこと。まともに考えたら行わないようなことを行うにいたる場合も多い。

>>144455482

源はくださいだ。

>>144456117
Oh, I think I got it now, thanks.
Not sure how I'd englishfy that... "they get on their high horses"?
Or something else similar

>>144456171
>>144455972
Seconded, I thought anons were being lazy asking for sauce but it actually isn't on ex, google, tiny, iqdb or saucenao...

>>144455875
>I must post this every thread until I get a response

>>144456254
>Not sure how I'd englishfy that... "they get on their high horses"?

Not the girls, the people voting for them.

>>144456254
Neah you didn't get it
ノリでやる is kinda similar to just 適当にやる
そのときそのときの気持ちで行動して後先考えず or some shit

>>144455972
>>144456244
>>144456254
http://www.mediafire.com/download/sdnv1vjeoq0081y/Bitter+Sweet+Birthday+QC.zip

>>144456072
そうですか？「映像」はテレビみたいな言葉思ったけど
よく分かりません笑

でも「画」なんとなく分かる気がする。ありがとう
日本は難しい

>>144455957
>>144455957
お返事ください。

>>144456258

Damn straight nigga mmm mmm

>>144456295
>>144456446
Uh, that's even harder to englishfy then.

The 適当 seems easier to understand.

I pity translators, truly do.

guys if i talk like a ギャルオ will i be made fun of

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>>144456528
可愛い、可愛い過ぎる
心臓が堪まらない

ありがとう

ノリ is the second katakana word that sorta has the same meaning as it's regular meaning (乗り) but gives a (sorta) different meaning.
I only knew イク before that was used like this.

I think I need to read some more of other type of works...

>>144456743
we're all little girls here

>>144457012
Surely you know about アレ

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>>144456756
気に入ってくれてうれしい！

>>144457083
Oh that too, but that isn't used in a different meaning. I think anyone could read アレ as あれ and have no issue understanding what it is.

While for イク you'd read that and "huh? where is she going now? Isn't she in the middle of... oh."
Same for ノリ, and this one pushes it even deeper imo. Cause they're like... "riding the mood" or something like that.

Is there a guide on how to set up Perfect Dark?

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>>144457132
女同士の恋愛はもっとも純粋な愛です。

残念だけど現実は全然違う。

>>144457647
>Tfw I can't stand and actively avoid normal romance in anything but yuri romance is incredible

My heart has spoken

箸を出来るか？

>>144457916
「使える」のほうが自然かと。

>>144457341
>Oh that too, but that isn't used in a different meaning

It's as much different as anything else.
お前の趣味はちょっとアレな気がするけどな

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>ゆり

>>144457479
What are you looking for on PD?

>>144457951
サンキュー

>>144458105
I'm wondering if this >>144455957 and other epubs/mobis/txts are on there that aren't on nyaa.

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Why is it that particles are considered stand-alone words when romanized, but considered suffixes when words are divided in textbook examples?

Who else /slowfag/?

>>144455957
If it's not on cor or nyaa then you're most likely out of luck, your only option is to buy the digital version from amazon and rip it.

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>>144458256
Haven't ran PD for awhile. Might be more to find.

カタ（堅？）英語みたいなカタ日本語ことがあるか？
文章を練習しているそれで気になていた。

>>144458637
I find it hard to believe that the uploading scene in Japan is this dead. Those aren't even obscure titles I'm looking for..

>>144458744
Hm, judging by the file size those are probably the screenshot versions. Maybe it really doesn't exist after all

>>144458853
Perfect Dark is dead. New content is hardly ever uploaded. Just a bunch 危ない content.

My brain is shit. I can't remember anything. Please god strike me down with lightning and end this masquerade!

>>144458966
I'm wondering if they moved on to some super sekrit private tracker.

>>144458427
Because grammatically every particle attaches to the word/phrase before it, so that's how it naturally parses in japanese. But in romaji it starts looking like a single word and looks weird

>>144459086
I know this feel

I forget fucking English words all the time despite being English, don't know how I'm supposed to ever get good at Japanese

>>144459117
Maybe you will have better luck with Share? PD has always been less popular, but it was good for h-adventure and エロヴォイス.

>飲み物買って最後一割残ってるとこまで飲んだら味が急に濃くなって「あっ、これ混ぜるべきだったんだな」と気付かされるその時の気持ち

>>144459138
I think I prefer it treated as a suffix desu, but maybe that's because that's how it works in Ўзбек тили, and that's the only language I know with anything similar.

>>144458853
>I find it hard to believe that the uploading scene in Japan is this dead. Those aren't even obscure titles I'm looking for..
More like Japanese people don't care about epub versions and are perfectly happy with scans.

>>144459635
I doubt it, those don't display well on Kindles.

>>144459503
Well putting it as a suffix is misleading if it is referring to a whole phrase like if you were to do
>kamino nagai onnaga suki
Romaji really only has two big purposes - to help very beginners read the language a bit and to help people who don't speak any japanese read japanese words approximately correctly. Putting particles as suffixes helps neither of those.

>>144458560
Me. Feels bad being retarded.

>>144459663
And how many Japanese people own a Kindle? And of those, how many are piratefags who aren't willing to buy the stuff they want to read?

>>144459757
>how many are piratefags who aren't willing to buy the stuff they want to read
0. Nips like to brag and show off the things they buy even if they have to take screenshots of their e-libraries.

How the hell do you even buy Kindle versions on amazon.co.jp anyways? It tries to do some weird digital transfer shit and tells me to buy it on my local amazon or something, even though it doesn't exist there

>>144459746
>>144458560
If it helps make you feel better, unless you take 2 years before you attempt any native material your speed at the beginning is pretty irrelevant. All that matters is how much you read/listen once you can start and that you don't settle for being able to read/listen to easy material and stop challenging yourself.

>>144460139
You need Japanese VPN and some fake Japanese address to go with your credit card information or else they'll tell you to fuck off.

What's a time frame to achieve N4 proficiency? Not to say that's what I'm aiming for, but just learned that my friend who's been studying japanese for quite some time now barely passed N4 apparently, seems pretty basic

>>144460360
Anywhere from 2 months to 10 years.
What kind of dumb question is that?

>>144460360
Anything less than N1 in a year and you might as well give up on japanese

>>144460139
>>144460281
I don't think you need a VPN. I'm in Europe and I buy them from JP Amazon all the time without one. I know that you need a VPN to buy in the USA Kindle store though because it's region locked. Could it be that people in the US are locked out of other Amazon's services as well? Do you have a screenshot of the message the site shows you?

>>144460475
Meant to ask "normal time frame". Basically what I was getting at was when it's expected to achieve such proficiency if you're at least semi-serious about learning Japanese, which friend seems to be

>>144460627
I'm European as well. You did enter a Japanese address though, right? How do I get one that isn't obviously fake, or do they not care at all?

I've found for both reading and listening there's a nice medium in skill for super effective study. If you're too good you don't get much out of it, and if you're too shit then you need to look stuff up frequently which results in way too many breaks to surf the internet if your attention is shit like me.

I finally can watch anime well enough to actually watch it so my listening practice is way more effective now since fewer pauses = fewer distractions. Feels pretty good.

>>144460627
FUCK ME, I just went to check the message but this time it wasn't here and I accidentally bought a volume of 空ろの箱と零のマリア
Guess that anon got lucky, I'll rip it tomorrow.

>>144460698
They don't care.

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>tfw you figure out the secret to writing in nip is to just write the sentence backwards

>>144460847
W-Was it volume 7? I've read 1-6 already but I guess other people might appreciate it so if you want just put it into the CoR or something.

>>144460972
No, it's the first one.
It's better be good or else you owe me 730 yen

>>144457341
ところで俺のアソコを見てくれ。こいつ、どう思う？

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>tfw less than 50% retention

>>144460698
I honestly don't remember but I think I copy pasted the address of one of the packages I had around from another seller. It should be fine as long as you don't accidentally set it as a default address and ship your other Amazon JP purchases there. If you still can't do it even after entering an address, look for something that says Manage Content and Devices in your account options. See if Japan is listed as a country in the settings and if you have a device set.

Like the other anon said though, be careful when you're done setting everything up because they activate this thing where you automatically make a purchase if you click the button right next to the book. There's no confirmation page or anything.

>>144460914
真乎?

>>144461216
Ah, I think I set it up correctly. How do I register my Kindle with the jp address though? It seems to go to my local one

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>>144460914
>tfw you become so good at Japanese you don't have to think about grammar when writing

>>144462357

I want to hug that creature.

>>144462357
I want to know this feeling.

>>144462357
>tfw you dont trust anything that you write and end up putting into google translate and its still wrong so you give up and keep reading

How do guys study Kanji? x amount a days, studying by priority or rules?

>>144462632
Whenever I damn well feel like it.
It's been working out so far.

スレで一番強い日本語を見せてちょうだい

>>144462632
Whenever I see a new word when reading I add it to anki, that's fucking it.
Nowadays it's like 3 new kanji a day tops if I read some complicated stuff, and zero if I just read comedy manga like a lazy piece of shit.

>>144454941
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1469032012321.webm

>>144460680
>>144460360
That happens when your learning method does not involve reading native content.

>>144462719
oyobi desu ka

湖水
湖

What's the difference?

>>144465037
>lake water
>lake

You wouldn't have had this problem if you had done RTK like you were supposed to

>>144465234

That's the lake kanji with the red tiger radical attached.

Has the "kyou mo ichinichi ganbaruzoi" scene happened yet?

>>144466699
watch the anime

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>tfw 90.5% retention today
im gonna make it lads

There's a deck that I've neglected for quite some time because of school+recovering from surgery. There's a backlog of nearly 900 cards. I'm contemplating reseting it and starting from the beginning again, is that a good idea?

>>144467607

How far in were you? I was like 1k cards into core and it became impossible for me to use a computer for 2.5 months. I did reviews for a couple weeks and recuperated pretty quickly and now I'm at 1.7k. Information you learned then forgot can be relearned pretty easily.

>>144467812
It was one of two decks that I use in Anki. The other was Core deck covering the 6k tier of vocab that was easy for me to catch up on while the one in question is a discovered vocab deck with about 1100~ terms. I think I'll try and catch up the normal way even though it'll take a while.

>download Hantsu x Trash OVAs
>first one only had a subbed torrent for it
>watching it and not reading the subs at all
>until half way through
>translation is just wrong
>read the subs from that point on
>every second line is wrong
Is one of you faggots translating for this Wien-Subs group or what? Probably the worst subs I have ever seen

>>144468128
we are all purposely gathered here just to annoy you with poorly translated subs

>>144468416
I fucking knew it. You absolute faggots

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>>144462535
>end up putting into google translate
>google translate

>>144467607
>surgery
お帰り

>>144468128
it's a romanian group. they hardly know english 笑　

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>>144465234
lake districtは、「湖水地方」って訳すことになっているよ。湖水はほかにはあんまりつかわないかな

佐鳴湖なら　Sanaruko lake か、lake sanaru だよ。前者は湖とlakeで意味がかぶってるけど、ごめんねおにいちゃん

Guys I've figured out how to learn Japanese

Just watch 20 animes a day

I can recall the reading and meaning of words when they're written in kanji form, but I can't read shit when they're written in hiragana, save for very common words. It's like the kanji->hiragana conversion in my mind only works one-way. What do?

>>144470457
Read more

江

Up shit creek without a water craft.

>>144470483
I saw this coming... I guess what I consider "very common words" is going to increase as I read more.

>>144470528
>江
The left side is a common radical and the right side is LITERALLY the pronunciation. Why the fuck would you need some weird mnemonic

>>144470645
b-but rote memorization is for a-autists...

>>144469085
im too much of a coward to post it here

>>144467812
>Information you learned then forgot can be relearned pretty easily.
I wonder why that is.

>>144470645
>the right side is LITERALLY the pronunciation
That's never fucking used. Don't think I ever saw a word where it reads as こう

>>144471815
Think about how you write え in katakana for a second

>>144471815
The right side also looks like エ, so...

>>144471815
エ

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>>144471861
>>144471864
Shit, I feel dumb now.

>>144471905
Good.

>>144471905
It's ok anon, we are all dumb.

>>144471905
fun fact: when kukai was inventing the kana he made エ from 江

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bY6qZLCQsU
So, would you become an English teacher and help out Japan?

>奉仕の仕方を教えておかんとな
>おかんとな
What's this mean?

>>144472225
おかないと

ない is sometimes shortened to ん.

>>144472225
おかないとな

どいつもこいつも大嫌いだよ

このスレにいる人は日本語絶対にできないから。

自殺はどう？是非やってみろ

>>144472396
はいどうぞお先に

>>144472396
自殺したら嫁さんは悲しむから、遠慮しておきます

>>144472396
You are so cool with your self-assessed N3 Japanese, you sure showed all us weebs.

>>144472325
>>144472332
thank you

>>144472118
No point teaching English to them when none of them actually want to put in the work to learn it

>>144472500
あッ、サンキュー！

>>144472532
嫁？お前なら嫁できないよなボケ

>>144472576
ちょっとマンコをみせてくれボケ
俺の日本語最高

>>144472741
I, too, watch filthy frank.

>>144472741
>お前なら嫁できないよなボケ
失礼ね。二次元の嫁ならいっぱい居るんだよ？

>>144472741
ボケボケ連呼すんなボケ

>>144469700
真っ直ぐな言葉すみません、いもうとさんはジモティーさん？

>>144472788
俺は汚いフィランクだよ

>>144472808
あっ、確かに

参りました

>>144472861
ボケボケボケボケボケボケボケ
ケ
ボ
ケ
ボ
ケ

これからどうする？ハ？

>>144473070
なにもしないさ
お前が痛いまねしてまで俺をいらいらさせたい寂しい人間だっていうことを証明しただけだ
満足かい？

>>144473070
ガキかよ

これからは英語で禁止かな...

>>144473448
そうだな
で、さっそく大事な質問だけど
俺を超える日本がこのスレにいるか？

>>144473508
自分より強い相手は必ずこの世のどこかにいるんだ
それを覚えておいた方がいい

みんなアニメみたいに話すw

>>144473858
そんなことないもん！
わたしの日本語はすっっごく自然だよ！

>>144473858
その辺については仕方ないと思う

>>144473858
俺たちみんなアニメだからね
ネット上のコミュニケーションは相手の次元が一つ増えたり減ったりしてもなにも変わらない
相手が幼女だって言い張ったら幼女だし、能力者だって言うんなら能力に間違いない
自分の想像力次第で体験する世界も違う
そういうものだよ

だからお前がネットで俺たちと話してる限り、自分が二次元の世界にいると考えればいい

まあネットでいくら充実しても童貞なのは変わらんけどねｗ

>>144474052
>俺たちみんなアニメだからね
はい
俺らはアニメだ

>>144474142
そうよね
みんな、アニメよね

>>144474415
>を
>ある

Tae Kimでも読み直せ

>>144474469
読めた、しかし俺は早く忘れた

滅多に練習だから

>>144474052
外人日本語はとても痛そうに見える

>>144474596
>滅多に練習だから
納得

（滅多に練習しない、の方が正しい使い方だと思う）

今日の日本の会話がたくさんあります

ごめんなさいN４です

Greetings, Japanese-speaking fellows. Is there some Rikaisama fork that lets you export meanings other than the first? The sticky mode export trick doesn't always work, so sometimes I have to copy-paste the meaning using sticky mode, then put the word in the http://assets.languagepod101.com/dictionary/japanese/audiomp3.php?kana=XXX&kanji=YYY url to get the correct audio for it.
It's all very 面倒臭い.

>>144474764
ふっつ「無い」いいのか？　それは誤解はず

>when EOPs say they can "kind of" understand anime with the subtitles off
>when EOPs repeat random words like "sugee"
>when EOPs completely butcher a word they just heard or type it completely wrong
>when EOPs think English loan words are somehow hilarious
I seriously thought this kind of thing was just limited to 12 year olds in the comment sections on Youtube, it's sad that the more Japanese I learn, the more second-hand embarrassment I get from weebs.

>>144474831
N4を合格出来れば「日本」と「日本語」の違いが分かるでしょう？

>>144474877
すまない、言いたい事は全然分からない

>>144474845
try pressing u and then press r while hovering over the kana of the word you want

>>144474750
外人が言うのか
っていうかここの外人の日本語と普通の外人の日本語とが随分違うよ
ここの人は読んでばかりいてラノベみたいな書き方になってるかもしれないけど、
普通に日本語を勉強してる人はそれどころじゃない
まともな文一つも書けないのがほとんどだろ

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できない

>>144474913
>when EOPs insult the writing of a really good author because the translation is shit
This annoys me the most

>>144475200
yeah i get pissed off when people say romeo tanaka sux also

>>144474952
「滅多に練習しない」だが、滅多に「ない」うちの意味あるでしょう？
俺のせいかも、「練習しない」だけです

the double negative makes me thing it was 'because rarely dont practice' when i wanted to mean 'rarely practice.'

>>144475200
Or flat-out saying that Japanese people simply can't write.

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やっぱ日本語むりっす
素直に諦めます、はい

賨

>>144475248
It's not a double negative, it's how the expression (滅多にない) is used.

Try googling it and you will see a lot of examples.

>>144475170
>>144475258
これをどこから？

>>144475374
ah i see it now thanks, my card only has kana on it for some reason
even jisho lists it with negative verb

>>144475393
http://www.nihongokentei.jp/challenge/kentei_top.html

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Quick, I need to learn Japanese before August 4. Where do I start?

>>144475593
you can start by reading the guide >>144454813

>>144475593
You cannot learn Japanese.

>>144475593
なぜですか

Ｈ ＝ 一番レアな漢字

>>144474845
That would certainly be a nice thing to have. If the top definition isn't the one I want, I just don't mine it at all. Doing it manually is too much work.

>>144474913
I hate that because I speak Japanese, people automatically assume I'm a weeb, when I hate 70% of all anime

>>144475839
何言ってるのよ？　ほら見て、”工”。
超普通な漢字、な？

もし女の体になってたら、一番最初に何をするんだろう？

>>144474913
What's a EOP?

>>144476060
>learning japanese
>uses 4chan
Yep, you're a weeb

>>144476060
コテハンは黙れ

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>>144476060

>>144476138
English only peasant

Newfags have tried to change the P to "plebian" for some reason but they are objectively wrong

>>144475200
Regarding that, anyone know how good is Kamachi's writing?

I've tried to read the To aru's translations and always give up.

>>144476102
はい

>>144476102
体毛処理

>>144475258
>got both right
I don't even know how to read the first one but I recognized the second kanji's meaning

if you can't get the 2nd one you're bad at guessing

>>144475170
務めて→努めて
万来の拍手→万雷の拍手

万雷の拍手なんて使ったことないぞ

>>144476494
To be honest I didn't even try I just saw that it was all words I had never seen and realized the できない

After all if you're using Japanese in real life you aren't gonna have multiple choices laid out for you to choose from.

>>144476615
Now could you have written those down on the test or did you just type out the pronunciation and choose what looked right from your IME?

3月から日本にいるけど、再来週アメリカに帰ります。アメリカに帰る前に何をした方がいいと思いますか~

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>at 2k total mined words

heheh, only 28k more to go till im fluent

>>144476755
今東京の近くに住んでいます。

>>144476781
Fluency is possible with 6k words as is demonstrated by 日系

>>144476755
秋葉原にでも行けば～

>>144454813
What's with the unorthodox kanji choice in that homoerotic statement? Is this some sort of meme?

>>144476876
Which 6k words?

>>144476755
大きい花火大会見に行こう

>>144476622
>it was all words I had never seen
well, kanken is a kanji test, not a word test and most of those are joyo in jukugo with non-counter-intuitive meanings

I can forgive the 1st one since 閨 is hyougai but 行　況　会　業 are simple

next time don't pee your pants just because it's kanken

>>144476892
what if i told you youre gonna put in another 1k hours and only move forward another inch

thats life thats japanese

>>144476892
You're here for life now buddy

Enjoy teaching your grandkids all about the wonders of anki

>>144476926
What about it is unorthodox? Looks normal to me.

>>144476892
Congrats on your sunk costs fallacy.

>>144476892
Sounds like you're either retarded or don't actually like any Japanese content.

>>144476978
It's not 漢検

Anyway if it's that easy go take it. It will probably mean a lot more than N1 would

>>144477009
I assume he's talking about 同志

>>144476892
>spent over 1k hours
That means you spent only 333 hours because 33% rule. You probably heavily overestimated yourself.

>>144477009
女の子同志 as opposed to 女の子同士.

>>144477088
>>144477095
Oh, yeah. I completely overlooked that.

>>144476876
If "fluency" means only with a vocabulary you can fluently speak and it doesn't include all the words you can understand.

>>144476896
もう行きましたが、そこでおすすめがありますか？

>>144476947
あー、楽しそうですよ。どこでいいですか。つまり、どもで花火の情報が見つけられますか。おすすめがありますか〜

ちょっと聞きたいことあるよ。最近、俺の立場をよく考えていて何かに気付いた。そのことはアニメが大嫌いよ。だが、アニメがそもそも日本語を勉強し始めた利用ださって思ってて俺は今一体どうして日本語の勉強を続く？

それではみんなの日本語を勉強する利用が知りたい。最初は？今？

>>144477242
最初はエロゲー
今もエロゲー

>>144477302
>video games
>MLP
Yeah seriously kill yourself garbage.

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>>144477302
>pony shit
enjoy your ban autist

>>144476926
This thread is actually a covert communist recruiting station. Don't tell anyone.

>>144476892
Can you read like articles on NHK easy reasonably well yet? http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/

If yes, then see you've made progress. If no, you should maybe change your learning routines, they don't seem to be very efficient

>>144477242
lang-8.com

>>144477209
再来週までなら長岡まつり大花火大会が一番おすすめ
東京からはかなり遠いけどね
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SHUKE6vF2w&feature=youtu.be&t=238

>>144477459
Yeah other than vocab in some parts I can read that fine.

>>144477611
Well there you go, the lack of results is just in your head

>>144477209
お勧めといっても自分はPCパーツ屋か電気工作の店位ね

>>144477792
Drink bleach.

>>144477792
Have more confidence.

>>144477792
I have nothing to add but I just wanted to give you some of that attention you crave

so here you go

>>144477792
You have all the anime, manga and VN characters in the world to choose from and you choose ponies

I always figured bronies were just people that craved that waifu feel but were too retarded to get into Japanese shit, what's your excuse?

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>>144478004
>I'm not even a brony. I just have a few mlp pictures

I'm not gay. ive just sucked a few dicks and took one in the ass

guys my ankl review rate for young cards is only 70% is this gonna fuck me in the long run?

>>144478004
I really do hope you get banned forever, but I also hope the people dumb enough to respond to you get banned too. It's not like you were hiding anything when you posted with Maki, and yet a bunch of retards who were either too new or too stupid to notice still replied.

>>144478060
yes

at this rate all of your mature cards will lapse by early-mid 2017, at which point you will have unlearned japanese

>>144478082
>but I also hope the people dumb enough to respond to you get banned too

>He says while responding

>>144478082
What does that mean?

>>144478047
im gay

>>144478060
no one is going to fuck you in the long run virg

>>144478158
質問は一切受け付けません

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>>144478158
that boy needs therapy

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>>144473061
いいえちがいます

>>144473061
はいそうです

>>144476615
つとめてはすぐわかったけど

あたしもばんらいのはくしゅは、なかなかわからなかったよ

拍手にくっつくのは「せいだいな」が多いんじゃないかなあとおもうよ

>>144454813
fuck off to t/u/mblr bitch

>>144478925
>いいえちがいます
>はいそうです

俺のとうさんはニンテンドーで働くだよ

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>6.3% retention

Why the fuck didn't I just try to learn jap as a fucking teenager instead of tugging my cock for hours.

>>144479273
6.3% retention?

Surely you're unlearning the language at that point

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>>144479273

>>144479273
>implying you had a critical period
of stupidity, maybe

>>144478210
彼はシーツの白の色に似ている。

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>>144479273
>6.3% retention
post proof

How do you guys practice your kanji writing?

Just fill a notebook page over and over writing a kanji or is there a better method?

>>144479382
>>144479617
6.3% could be legit given the correct circumstances.

>Do the typical anon method of hitting 'good' the first time you see the card (I knew I didn't know it, that is the correct answer - GOOD)
>Review it again 10 minutes later and get lucky
>Do 100 new cards
>Be sleep deprived/drunk the next day
>100 reviews of cards you don't know

>>144479752
I do the RTK deck with recall cards, I write down every kanji in paint with my graphics tablet before pressing the show card button

Hi lads I'm back from my ban from calling some cuck a cuck

>>144479752
I don't. I did a year ago, and I could pretty comfortably write out any kanji from memory, but after the radical mnemonics faded and I stopped bothering with practice, I forgot the vast majority.

You only need reading and typing.

>>144479771
>tfw this horrible cycle fucks you up for a week before you can even manage to get back on track
Do it two weeks in a row and you might as well relearn it all

>>144479752
one rep is enough if I get it right, I don't really see the point of covering a page in one sitting, I have way too many daily reviews for that

just make sure you're being accurate and using correct stroke order (or that whatever stroke order you're using leads to the correct result) or else it defeats the purpose of writing

>>144479771
>Hitting good when you don't know the card

People do this?

>>144479752
First light, with the dew still fresh apon the morning grass, I haul my pack up with effort.

The birds are restless as I note the chill breeze sweeping up at me from the bedrock. There marks my quarry, old whitestone that moss has made its own journey.
I set my pack down and grab my tools, working away each kanji, the hammers wooden handle wearing down into the many callouses of my hands that anki brings.

i dont write anything you fuckknuckle

>>144480079
Someone's been reading too much

>>144479771
>Do the typical anon method of hitting 'good' the first time you see the card (I knew I didn't know it, that is the correct answer - GOOD)
This is literally what I do 99 times out of 100 because I'm not retarded.
>Review it again 10 minutes later and get lucky
You either know the card 10 minutes later, or you don't, dude. There's no fucking difference apart from saving a minute.

My retention is at 94%, before you ask.

>>144480075
Yes. The first time you see the card you're not expected to know it. So if you realise you don't know the card you have correctly answered the card.

If you know the actual word/can guess it then you mark it as easy.

>>144480079
you could've written 35 kanji in the time you used on this post

>>144480130
>if you realise you don't know the card you have correctly answered the card.
woaah

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>>144480160
this whole time ive been doing that wrong too..

>>144480234
Why would you think that you need to see every single card twice within the span of a minute? What the fuck would that even accomplish?

The first time you see the card, that's zero. You look at it again 10 minutes later to see if you remembered it. If you didn't, give it another 10 minutes.

>>144480287
>What the fuck would that even accomplish?
Learning Japanese. I guess if that isn't your goal randomly press Good on cards you don't know, your choice.

>>144480287
i guess ive only just recently been able to tell when its a new card, and not one ive seen before and forgotten

>>144480287
So by your logic, what is the Again button for new cards for?

So here's a question. . .will you ever get to the point where you are literally indistinguishable from a native?

I read a specific blog, and the poster is clearly native Japanese. However, he often posts in English, and it's so good you assume that he's either lived in America for a time (amongst the nogs), or is part American.

"Today, I couldn't not bump this new Riri x Drake shit"

Do you think it's possible after 7 years? That's my goal. (As someone who's 7 months deep in intermediate hell)

>>144480337
When you think you know the card and get it completely wrong. That means you incorrectly identified it.

>>144480337
For idiots, or for people who need extra help so they set the intervals to 10 30 instead of 1 10.

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あのねおにいちゃん

アイロンかけるものあったらだせば？

>>144480365
no

>>144480365
>implying his american friend isn't proofreading

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How do you guys hide learning japanese from your families and friends?

I personally only look up japanese shit with internet explorer that doesn't share information with my real browser.

If my family or friends walk next to my laptop I fucking alt+tab it to firefox like I'm doing something else.

The worst I've gotten was when one of the girls in my college class saw me writing kanji in my notebook.

I fucking had to explain that I was drawing a Chinese logo as a tattoo I wanted for a while.

She believed me, but that shit was too close. Stopped studying Japanese during classes.

>>144480691
I don't have family or friends.

Is there some kind of offline equivalent of realkana I can put on a laoptop?

I've got two weeks coming up at work where I have nothing to do but look busy with no internet.

May as well learn this shit

>>144480691
Move out.

And don't be so ashamed of your fucking hobbies, jesus christ.

>>144480737
Just download a screenshot of a kana table.

>>144480691
Why would you hide that? It's not like being a weaboo, people respect language-learners

>>144480691
>How do you guys hide learning japanese from your families and friends?

i dont because they really dont care. ausfags are basically all normies that drink piss and laugh too long at bad jokes

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Can someone explain why kanji is used in furigana here. I have never seen this done anywhere else. I'd assume it was a typo if it wasn't the only time furigana was used after using the same batch of subs for 20 episodes

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>>144480691
Why would you hide it? Learning a mew language is something to be pride of. My family encourages me and is happy I'm doing something productive instead of only playing video games on my spare time.

WHY IS IT SO FUCKING HOT

HOW DO I COOL DOWN DJT HELP

>>144480753
>>144480782
Because chances are you'll fail.

>Parents find out
>They tell the entire extended family that "anon is learning Japanese!"
>Hey anon, I heard you've learnt Japanese. Say something to me
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMTYnfTI97Y

>>144480799
Furigana isn't just for explaining pronounciation etc, it can be used to give alternate words to explain the meaning, nuance, stylistic choice etc. Kanji in furigana is pretty common in for example VNs

Not sure why it's used in that case there though

>>144480691
I don't really give a fuck who knows, I don't try and hide it but I also never talk about it

My family don't know what the difference is between China and the rest of Asia, and constantly ask me how my "Chinese is going", and my friends are all ultra normies that don't understand the concept of doing something that you're not getting paid for

Needless to say I'd rather just keep that shit to myself

>>144480691
I hid it too well and now none of my friends or family know except for my cousin who is a harem fanatic

>>144480839
Careful someone's gunna call you poor for not having an aircon

>>144480892
>constantly ask me how my "Chinese is going"
they're asking you if you have a job yet

>>144480892
I guess I should stop reading the easiest stuff I find enjoyable and start challenging myself

>>144480691
My family never touches my computer, probably because I've always made a huge deal out of it even if they just look at my screen.

I think the reason it works is because they all pretty much sense that using a computer is like my only hobby and source of relaxation, and I've explained to them that when I think someone might possibly be looking at my screen I get really self-conscious, even if I'm not doing anything weird, and it fucks up my ability to relax.
Maybe you could try saying something like that

>>144480986
Shit. Meant to reply to >>144480879

>>144480949
Nah they're just stereotypical retarded normies, if anything they're proud that I can speak another language, they just can't seem to get to grips with the fact that asian countries other than China exists

>>144472706
But that just means you'll have a long-term job, since no one will learn English well enough to replace you/kick you out.

>>144480691
I only do it when I'm alone and I use my tablet with headphones. If someone comes in my room, I just press the lock button. No one has any reason to try and use any of my devices so I have nothing to worry about, but I put passwords on all of them regardless.

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おにいちゃんおなかすいた

チョコかってきて

めいじのみるくちょこね

>>144481000
based on your actions I'm pretty sure it's because your family thinks you're hoarding massive amounts of pornography

>>144480365

いや、無理だろ
特にお前のような人には
早めに諦めたほうがいいぜ、兄ちゃん

>>144480799
Sometimes, when you want to be """clever""", you can write the implied meaning of what you're saying normally, and then write the literal meaning of what you're saying in the furigana. Or the other way around.

>>144481510
太るぞ

>>144481510
自分でやれ、この駄妹が

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>Tfw できる every other day

>>144480691
I normally don't mention that I'm learning Japanese to anyone, mostly because I can't come up with a good reason and just say, "I like it".

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>>144481749
>tfw don't give a shit anymore

>>144481829
Be honest. Just tell them you want to watch vaguely pedophilic cartoons in their native language.

>>144481856
私の目ぇぇぇ
血が止められないぃぃ

>>144480691
so far i've only told my 母上 and that was only because she literally came up and asked what i was doing, she didn't give a fuck and hasn't even mentioned it since

>>144480839
buy a fan and only drink ice cold beverages

>>144481896
Obviously I can't admit that

>>144481896
>vaguely

how is bakana spelled in nihongo? why isn't it in any dictionary

>>144480753
>>144480782
>>144480815

If anyone ever finds out that you know Japanese, they will ask you to translate every goddamn instruction manual and street sign they see, and then they'll act like you're the asshole when you tell them to stop wasting your time.

>>144482257
Probably because it is baka na.

>>144482257
have you tried "pakana"?

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>>144481682
>>144481701
ぷー

>>144482332
It's sakana for sure

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>>144482274
>someone mentions you are learning Japanese to someone else
>"Really? Say something in Japanese, anon!"

>>144482274
They have Japanese street signs where you live? California?

>>144482428
I hate this shit the worst

i was playing Twinkle Star Sprites 2 and one of the characters said something like "maketaiyo"

that translates as "I really want you to lose!" right?

>>144482274
My family and closest friends have known I'm learning Japanese for years now and I can count the number of questions of that kind I've gotten with the fingers on one hand.

>>144482691
No, it translates to "I really want to lose"

>>144482428
お前のために踊るだけのお猿さんじゃないぞ。失せろカス。

>>144482440
Family trip to Japan a while ago. Never again.

>>144482697
You're more fortunate than I am., then.

>>144482691
たい is personal experience or so dojg has lead me to believe

is there any site that includes audio of the news like nhk easy but for intermediate/higher level?

>>144482691
If they wanting someone else to lose they've would've used ほしい rather then たい for the reason that >>144482922 mentioned.

>>144483005
Just watch Japanese news channels. Every country has a 24 hour one.

>>144483024
I tried but got lost in meaning halfway since they speak for fast for me. A script would be nice I think.

>Tfw trying to translate Japanese school years into American school years and then working out what the fuck that means in UK school years

Just kill me now senpai

>>144483520
>American school years
That shit isn't consistent either.

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さみしかろ

かなしかろ

さもありなむ

こゝろありしや