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Read the guide

buyfag.moe
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>>144398804
Holy shit that's Kurumi
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>>144398868
Good eye, dude.
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Hope she is released soon.
hoping at WonFes.
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Please don't delay her.
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But what if it didn't come with an instruction paper?
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How long does surugaya usually take to process orders?
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Any colombiabros here with experience buying lewds? I'm thinking of buying Yui (pic related) but I'm not sure if I could get in shit for this. Alternatively I got a friend in FL who could pick it up for me but im also not so sure about how safe it is.
Checked the guide but it has no info on dirt countries, also I don't know if this would qualify as loli.
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>>144399183
They take like a week to ship
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>>144399160
At this point, seems like it will
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>>144399218

Try emailing your local congressman? Or druglord, whatever counts as government for you guys
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>>144399083
She'll probably be painted by then if I had to guess.
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>>144399165
Maybe just use stock images?
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>>144399297
Kekekeke, that's fucked up.
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>no place you can preorder C90 items
Time to move to Japan
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>>144398804
I want to fuck that clock
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>>144399218
They probably have better things to worry about than some guy importing PVC lewds, as long as you don't ship drugs with it you should be fine.

If you end up ordering it post results so other buyfags can learn from your mistakes.
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>>144399751
>live in Japan
>event only item
>can't attend
feels bad
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>>144398804
>Kurumi figure

Fuck yes.
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>>144400018

>implying you can post on /a/ from Columbian prison
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>>144400057
>implying he can't just bribe customs with cocaine so they leave him alone
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>>144400114

>Implying that bribing Columbian police/cartel with cocaine isn't like bribing an American cop with a donut when he already drove through Krispy Kreme on his way to arrest your pedophile ass
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>>144400057
Is this the best Kaori scale?
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>>144400651

Yes. The other two have terrible faces.

I own the Good Smile one and it is perfect.

>another scale for reference
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>>144400057
I have no idea what show she's from, but she's adorably cute. Sasuga 2d girls
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>>144401109

How have you not seen Your Lie in April?

Get ready to feel motherfucker
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>>144401109
The show is garbage, you don't even need to know.

>>144401139
Look at this reddit fuck, not people you want to associate with.
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Can anyone confirm if Nana's alternate parts are Kotobukiya only?
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>>144401160

I'm sorry you have shit taste friend
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>>144401139
>get ready to feel motherfucker
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What are the most beautiful figures you have seen so far?
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>>144398804
It looked like Euryale/Stheno in the thumbnail.

oh wel...
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>>144401302
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>>144401139
>Get ready to feel motherfucker
More like get ready for 14 year old kids having retarded existential crisis and a fuckton of deathflags. There are lots of better melodrama shows, the only thing it had going for it was the music.
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>>144400651
Thanks! I'll be looking out for this one
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>>144401343
>be glasses-kun
>"oh, it's evening and I'm outside, time to stare at the sky and use a disgusting amount of completely overblown and unnecessary analogies to seem deep and pretend that my pussy non-problem actually matters".

You are correct.
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>>144401189
The face is Koto exclusive.
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>>144401399
meant
>>144400812
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>>144401139
I'm not that into drama or shoujo.
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Any date on these bitches yet? I really want to get my hands on them to know whether or not I should be excited for the next release.
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>>144401302
Is it a dude?
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THICK FOR PREORDER
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>>144401629
Yes.
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>>144401629
No.
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>>144401302
The Sakura posted a few days ago took my breath away.
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>>144401629
Maybe.
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>>144401629
I don't know
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>>144401449

Dang, thanks
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>had shit sent to Tenso so they could forward it to me
>Amazon says it arrived on Friday
>they still haven't said anything about it even after I sent a ticket two days ago
Am I fucked?
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>>144402112
I think Monday was some kind of Japanese holiday. I only just got an email back from Ami about something I sent on Friday.
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>>144401629
Can you repeat the question?
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>>144402239
You're not the boss of me now.
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>>144401674
Cast-off or bust
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>>144402393
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this so sexy, I can't wait for her release
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I don't know why I keep ordering garbage from crunchyroll the discount on megahouse shit ain't worth this fucking wait
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>>144402431
I thought this was Rem and Ram, almost got excited
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>>144402440
>beliving promotional pictures
I bet the dress doesn't look half as good in person
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>>144399218
It's not loli so it's safe.
Loli is considered illegal on Florida but only if you ship it via USPS instead of a private carrier like UPS or DHL or if they find it in your possession.
She's fine though so you shouldn't worry.
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>>144402531
It's Alter. Their final products are generally spot on the prototypes.
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>>144402172
Yeah, it was Sea Day
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>>144402531
POORFAG DETECTED
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I just got my package from Mandarake, and 1 of the figures I ordered wasn't in the box or on the invoice. Has this happened to anyone else?
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>>144402393
>>144402431

Cute not pedo.
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>>144402393
>>144402431
They're two separate figures? Either way, I'm glad to see they weren't cancelled.
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>>144402662
I don't think he might be a poorfag unless that's Alter. I still regret buy Totori and Memeru.
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>>144402662
>implying I would have said that if I hadn't spend a shitton because I was trusting photoshopped promo pictures
no, you're still not fitting in
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>>144402730
yeah that's Alter actually
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>>144402393
Fuck, I almost to included them in my bingo sheet.
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>>144402799
Than there's nothing to worry about.
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>>144402393
>>144402431
>There will never be a Nanako figure
Life sucks
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>>144402393
I need that in my life
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Didn't Canada Post lose 80% of their business because of the strike threats? You'd think they'd work faster but they aren't.
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>>144402870
It's a shame, but I'm just happy to be getting anything at all considering how the show did.
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Maybe this year, right?
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>>144402440
Even my mom said that looks great.
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>>144402986
I've already lost hope for that one. At least we know Broccoli's Casko is painted.
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>$105
Anyone else get their order in already? Doesn't seem so bad when you see Aniplex charging $50 for only 4 episodes. Only the complete collection will include all picture dramas.
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>>144403132
You mean this abomination?
At least the face is way better than PHAT's one, but still... those breasts...
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>>144403252
I want naked apron Tamamo Neko.
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>>144403252
Those things ain't breast.
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>>144403241
>3.55 MB
>ge-ass
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>>144403252
Yeah, I know. Not a fan of the breast either, but I'm just happy she's getting figures. We also have MF's Tamacat too look forward to.
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>UK
>Illya and Kuro just passed through customs and passed to RM

It's been fucking stressing me out all day.
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>>144403303
Wonfes limited edition garage kit only.
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>>144403458
Mine got charged £25 in customs, but the UK never open parcels
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>>144403458
What's the point of living in the so-called first world if you can't even own dolls of small stature aliens without fear of going to jail?
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>>144403630
I've never had anything opened myself either. But it's still a risk.

Good thing people here like drugs and fake Nike so much, keeping those customs people busy.
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>>144403252
>>144403371
The face looks fantastic, but those watermelons attached to her chest destroys the whole appeal.
I know that nips love big breasted characters, but it's time to stop them. Phat's figure was really borderline, but this shit is just getting ridiculous.
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>>144403657
Could be worse, you could live in perpetual fear of being caught up in some terrorist act in a third world country

Thank god I don't live in France
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>they're releasing this slut and Kaito-fuccboi before Luka

Disgusting.
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>>144403657
Has anyone outside of Japan actually been sent to prison for possessing a loli figure?
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>>144403815
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>>144398804
>Broccoli
Shit
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>>144401302
The cutest.
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>>144403815
Fuck off, Meiko is great.
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>>144403053
No wonder you have shit taste. It's in the genes.
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>>144403815
>Gakupo never

It hurts.
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>>144402716
Double check to make sure all the figures you ordered were from the same store. You might have ordered one from a different store inadvertently.
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>>144403740
Truer words have never been spoken.
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>>144404056
Internet co. doesn't understand how to market.
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COME ON,
THIS WONFES
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>>144403819
Mad thad
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>>144404527
No, Thad was vanned for having actual cheese pizza
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>>144401617
Woah that looks awesome. What are they?
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>>144399218
>getting in shit over figure

you insult my inteligence
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>>144403819
As far as I know, it's only used as further evidence. There hasn't been a publicized case of getting arrested for loli figures, but if you attract police attention for actual pizza or some other crime, they tak on lolishit when they can to lengthen or ensure a prison sentence.
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>>144404293
What is her weapon? A baton?
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>>144403957
>>144403815
Hello. Both Meiko and Luka do not have good range/pitch and can only latch onto duets to survive.
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>>144402440
Don't like the face
That dress looks gorgeous though
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>>144404590
And then later vanned again for admitting that he had more on facebook, right after he got out.
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>>144404739
Baton/Teacher's Pointer

It mostly acts as wand that can pull off some crazy shit.
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>>144404293
That barely looks like Sakura though.
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>>144404935
That's because it's BB.
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>>144404935
That's the point
I love BB, regular Sakura not so much.
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>>144404915
>mooncancer
Yeah she's cancer alright.
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>>144404596
>>144401617

So I'm a bit confused here.
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-016710

Is it a garage kit? Says a six pack but only one is prepainted.

I'm really interested but I'm a casual buyfag at best and do not have the paint/equipment to have to make these.
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take my money
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GSC's Saber Alter is getting a re-release for 12800 yen. Pre-orders start tomorrow.
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>>144404996
Mooncell-Mooncancer
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>>144404915
What's the point of a pantyshot if the skirt is literally not even long enough to cover the panties on a straight angle?
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>>144405017
Don't like the base, and don't like the face.
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>>144405042
Twas a leotard
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>>144405079
That actually makes it worse. Fuck Cammy.
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>>144404983
>>144404984
Type moon and their dozens of variations of the same fucking character.
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>>144405010
Is this Amakuni?
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>>144405124
FGO is having a field day doing the exact opposite, aside from Okita I guess.
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>>144405017
The sword looks tacky as hell.
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>>144405275
k
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>>144405003
Each pack has 1 figure and you get 6 packs to a box.
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>>144403739
I wish they'd at least keep them consistent. It's like they're growing every year.
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>>144405017
I guess I'm going to be buying a second one of this.
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>>144402440
>Want this
>Can't afford to buy figs for a while
Neck me, lads.
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Goddamn this thing is soft
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>>144405472
You can lie to yourself hoping to get it afterwards on Mandarake.
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>>144403567
>garage kit only.
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>>144405017
>more sabers
no plz stop
I'm getting saber lily and alter's, now this?
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>>144405515
ayyy
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Got my first book order from manda

Just wondering, do they always seal the books with a plastic bag before packing?
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>>144405406
Ah, that makes sense.
Followup question:
Some of the images on other sites imply that the weapons are not painted, when AmiAmi and 1999 show them "finished." In the description, it says
>assembly required runner-style weapon parts

I don't mind the assembly, but does that confirm that the weapons are unpainted? Wouldn't that make it difficult to match the colors of the prepainted figure?

Sorry to be so persistent, but I'm pretty ignorant about a lot of these things and I want to make sure before I pull the trigger. I can't paint anything, and that worries me. I'm thinking maybe the caption on the right may indicate something, but I can't into moon.
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>>144405660
There is no end to the Saber Alter train.

And I don't want it to end.
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>>144405660
oh shit, AND the one in the bike from Fate Zero
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>>144405712
I love Saber Alter!
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>>144405705
Yeah, at least, going by few doujins I've bought from them.

>>144405703
These things are super soft. I might actually get the snow Maki because of this.
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>>144405010
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>>144402440
>thinking of cancelling because of no money
Maybe Ill give the preorder to someone.
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>>144405707
>I don't mind the assembly, but does that confirm that the weapons are unpainted? Wouldn't that make it difficult to match the colors of the prepainted figure?
If they're anything like most model kits, they'll come with instructions that say what paint brand and color ratio you need to color match.
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>>144405712
why does it sell so much? I bet at least half of the saber alter fags haven't even read HF or HA and even there she is almost irrelevant with just a handful of dialogues. I don't get the popularity, other best girls get shit while there are at least 2 sabers a month, stop buying all this shit so we get at least one good Rider, Caster, Wormslut or Rin figure each
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>>144401674
Matabei barely fits in my case. I want it, but I don't think I can squeeze in the thickness. I wish we had more measurements.

>>144403925
You know, I've had this sitting on my wanted list for ages, yet every time it pops up I don't spring for it. That probably says I do that actually want it, but it looks amazing.
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>>144403241
Oh hey, kinda forgot about this. Bit pricey, but I think I'll order it all the sa-

>Vision of Escaflowne Blu-ray release too
...this ain't fair Funi. This ain't fair.
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>>144406005
> paint brand and color ratio

Oh boy. I think I'm going to go for it, but I'll need to figure out to paint when they get here.

Is there a better place on 4chan, maybe toy, to ask for basic kit painting advice? I searched the guide but there's no section on how to paint.

The only thing I know is "thin your paints."
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>no 3 year vocational training with a standardized final exam in theory and practice that gives you a degree that is nationwide and beyond acknowledged that you're know what you're doing in your job
how do the rest of the world even compete
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>>144406559
wrong thread
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>>144406540
/toy/ has a couple scale model threads, and /tg/s painting guides might help too.

Worst case scenario that it turns out you hate it, you should be able to sell them piecemeal to people who didn't want to buy the full set and break even. I was thinking of getting a second set to sell out like that, but my July order is way too big already thanks to my Strike Witches addiction.
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>>144406661
Alright. I may come back in a month or two and ask more questions if /tg/ and /toy/ can't help me.

But thank you for your patience in helping me out, and godspeed on them Strike Witches.
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Why do you guys buy so many sluts? Get better taste, seriously.
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>>144406996
The only slut I own is you're waifu.
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>>144406996
They do it to fill the void in their sad lives.

SAD!
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>>144407242
I want to argue with you but you're right. I need help. I'm just so lonely.
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>>144407591
Do you need a hug?
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How do I scam amiami and get free/cheap stuff
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>>144407839
Use their ebay storefront.
Or buy something and see if you can get it via unregistered SAL.
You can figure the rest out yourself beloved.
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Someone posted a picture of a Kaname 07 doujin in here the other day. Is it out?
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>>144408000
>Unregistered SAL scam
"Your fault for not using better shipping" - ticket closed
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>>144408044
Nope trust me its easy to get your money back.
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>>144399207
>>144405010
>>144405808
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>>144402986
>>144403132
Don't forget, you guys are still getting this.
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>>144405017
Nice

>>144405227
It's optional. She comes with a standard alter sword too.
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>>144408000
Checked.
How long will this scam take, I need the items to sell fast to pay rent next week
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>>144403815
I can't wait.
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>>144408615
Wew lad, i don't think you'll be able to pull it off fast enough, better off scamming a store thats in your state/country.
The process also takes abit of time since you have to wait till after the full delivery window has passed before you can go the package never came route.
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>>144405017
I was waiting for this one, knew it was happening when all the others got rereleases.
Wishlist of items that are currently released is going to be completely bought up now.
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>>144408000
>how to get banned from amiami: the post
If you didn't get insurance for the package, you are on your own. It's in their website.
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HOLY SHIT WONFES
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>>144408867
>implying their website matters
Maybe my bank is just based af but the key is to deal with these issues through your bank, not amiami
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>>144406226
Maybe if people showed support for their favorite characters instead of passing on everything trying to play it cheap they'd get more merchandise.
Same reason Neptunia gets many games.
Put your money where your mouth is or stop crying, it's capitalism.
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>removing figure from stand
>foot breaks off
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>>144409186
Hope you got glue that isn't hot.
If you're not retarded you can fix it, there will probably be a seam but you should live with it if you have any respect for your own property.
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>>144409186
Hotgluing is dangerious.
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>>144409225
>>144409243
Good news is that it was at a seam already.
Better news is that superglue is cheap as hell.
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What is this pose trying to convey?
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>>144409356
unga bunga
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>>144408909
Has anyone actually done this and succeeded? In a first world country with competent banks I mean.
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>There are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who didn't pre-oreder this beauty.
Explain yourselves.
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>>144409526
Fight me instead.
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>>144409526
Not a fan of fat tits
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>>144409526
The show was generic as hell. Apparently it's cast off though, can't wait to see what the tiddies look like.
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>>144409526
No money, don't know who she is.
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>>144409526
I don't know who this slut is.
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>>144409615
>>144409627
That's sad.
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>>144409526
Because she's not Ludmila.
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>>144409688
Those spots on her shoulders are horrible.
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>>144409526
>not Lim
>not Lewdmila
That's why
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>>144409526
Bunny is always like putting an anime girl's head on the exact same body, it's shit.
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45% off on Amiami. What happened?
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>>144410022
Looks dumb
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>>144410022
Colour of her face is off
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>>144410022
Thanks anon, was waiting for this one to bin. Just picked it up.
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>>144410022
She doesn't look very appealing
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>>144409526

I'd take Lim, but I really just don't care to get Bunny/swimsuit figures before you can get them in their normal outfits. Heck, one of my favorite characters will never get a figure of her in her normal clothing/casual clothing. At this point, she has 3 figures and they're all of her in castoff swimsuits.
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>>144409186
>>removing figure from stand

>>144409526
>pre-ordering a bunny
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>>144405010
cashima*
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>>144409526
I'd buy a Ryuko bunny only
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>>144410864
This is exactly me.
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>"Inbound to customs"
>almost 5 days without change
Never had this happen before, what the fuck is going on?
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>>144408868
When is it again? I keep fucking forgetting.
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>>144411367
On my birthday.
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>>144411363
To put it plainly; you're fucked.
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I'm in Tokyo right now and I want to buy my favorite fatalpulse and rustle doujins but I don't really want to bring them through customs. Anyone has experience with sending items from Japan internationally? Anonymously that is. Every option it seems I have to declare who the sender is, but can I just make something up or do they check ID?
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>>144406996

All anime girls are sluts, being the waifu of anyone who wants them to be.

get over it.
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>>144411448
Why? What exactly happened? It wasn't lewd stuff.
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>>144409526
are those stockings real in all the bunny girl figures?
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>>144411487
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>>144411663
yes
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>>144411574
Honestly? Just give it another month. If you still hear nothing and the status hasn't changed then you will have reason to be concerned.
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>>144411727
neat
now if only they made one that really sparked my interest I'd get it no matter waht
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>>144411840
Alright, I guess it's still in the delivery window, but the fact it hasn't moved got me concerned. Thanks.
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>>144411945
I've had mundane stuff like manga and straps get stuck in customs for a week before. Just wait it out a little.
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>>144405515
The softest.
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>>144410022
They're fags who haven't listened to the album.
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>>144405017
Swimsuit Alter re release when?
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>>144413573
Why would it need one? It still goes for basically release price.
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>>144413009
>Shitty boy
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January, 2017 release just updated on MFC.

Preorders fucking when?
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>>144413619
Talking about Alter's which is more than 30% more expensive than release price.
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>>144410022
Fuck me.
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>>144402393
>>144402431
How do they connect the two individual figures?
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>>144413952
It looks pretty obvious that you swap out the hands.
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Got my 2nd mami fig in today and the anon who I bought it from sent this too. Pretty nice.
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When will GSC get good again?
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>>144414206
>flip over

What's on the other side, anon? please be Charlotte
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Finally have all of the amusement club.
Thanks for the Kyouko, poopclean.
Yui came in the mail yesterday.

Any tips on getting a camera to take better pictures? This was orignally 8mb before I cropped it, and it still looks like shit and this was a $300 camera.
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>>144414244
When they re-release their Korbo.
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>>144400057
Really feel like buying this but I feel like that's because I just watched it and it's still fresh in my mind. Will I remember her in a year?
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>>144414367
For starters how about try not taking your pictures in a dark cave?
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>>144414206
This is undeniable evidence that everyone in the buyf/a/g thread actually is a little adorable loli.
No one else would do something so cute.
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>>144414367
Turn your lights on.
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>>144413994
>>144413952
It's the upper torso that you swap out. Look at the seams on the neck and under the swimsuits. Aoi's arm also changes position.
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So I bought something from nippon-yasan for the first time a while ago. What the hell is all this level up bullshit?
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>>144414602
EXP gives you a new card, DP gives you points towards a 2.5% discount.
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>>144414452
Even if you don't the figure's pretty anyway.
If anything I would recommend buying it without watching the show.
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>>144414598
You're right, I somehow missed the horrible neck seams. I'll still buy them.
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>>144413906
why?
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>>144414638
>2.5%
>Just read that you need 10 for the discount
So it's even worse than Amiami's system?
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>>144414723
Because I bought it for regular price and then it binned.
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>>144414772
Speaking of this, is there any good way to tell if something will bin or not?
Besides it looking like shit of course.
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>>144413723
Wow that's not very soft.
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Anyone ever bought something from Otona-Sekai, more specifically dakimakura?
How the fuck do they sell for 15$?
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>>144415020
It's not a dakimakura, it's a cushion cover for a small, inflatable pillow.
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>>144414846
If there was a good way, then nobody would be placing pre-orders.
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>>144414846
Intuition
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I just finished Spice and Wolf. All of the media in the franchise. Now i want a Horo figure. (though i've wanted one since i started reading the first book so long ago)

But i can't seem to find any for sale almost anywhere that is a decent quality, and at least half-decent price. Anyone have any suggestions?
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>>144414731
Yes, but prettier. Not like you have any real hope of saving when you shop NY anyway.
>>
Rory came in, I put her with Seras and Death

did I do good?
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>>144415351
>Not like you have any real hope of saving when you shop NY anyway.
Explain yourself
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>>144415181
I suggest reading the guide.
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Will she bin?
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>>144412485
>tomato and khorosho
best taste
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>>144415711
>Madoka
>Bin
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>>144415781
Madoka herself binned.
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>>144415514
N-Y is really just good for one thing. They keep certain high demand figures in stock and available for well after release when everybody else sells out. However, they really rape you with the prices on these figures, often upcharging by 50-100% as soon as the thing is released. When you order a normal preorder from N-Y, their prices are fine, but the service tends to be inferior to Amiami, so it's a worse value overall.
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>>144415820
Well, being a Europoor I never use Amiami because it always turns out more expensive in the end, due to customs.
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>>144414431
This please , 400bucks kills me.
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>>144415817
They made a shitton and re-released her despite that, it was inevitable. Homura is popular, though, and people are going to want to complete the set so it's hard to tell.
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>>144415986
>implying the set will ever be completed at this rate

Kyoko when
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>>144405808
That face looks pretty bad.
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>>144415903
I've only had to pay customs once out of 6 times over the past year and that was because my package was too small for RSAL so they sent it with SAL parcel.
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>>144411052
>removing figure from stand
To put back in the box. It didn't come welded to the stand.
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woah
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>>144416341
Here in the Netherlands you get checked for customs no matter what, so undervaluing is basically your only option.
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>>144416103
we already have kyouko
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>>144414452
I bought it without watching and it's just really nice. You should get it.
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>>144414299
>>144414463
Here's the flip side.
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>>144415359
just got my rory in today fampi. I like her.
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>>144416578
Better marry that faggot before I snatch him away from you.
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>>144416578
>shit I don't know what else to say
That's pretty cute.
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>>144416578
>also, I have an account on MFC and I forgot to tell you that I hot glued it just for you. :^)
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>>144416535
Not from that set. I already have the older GSC scale and her RAH/cu-poche/nendo/other misc stuff.

She's mai waifu
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>>144416679
I didn't realize that we were getting another set of megucas. So far it's just Madoka and Homura?
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What are the recommended ways for buying this:
>>144401189
Does kotobukiya even ship internationally?
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>>144416578
Better put a ring on that ASAP.
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>>144416763
Hopefully so, I don't know if the others have ever actually been confirmed to be on the table.

I'm interested to see how they'll turn out, if they do make them all. The Madoka is gorgeous and so much better than the one from the first set and I still haven't seen a Sayaka scale I like.
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>>144416678
Get the fuck out already.
>>
>get hooker I see regularly to come over
>She agrees to fuck raw as long as I don't creampie
>Creampie her anyway
>While angrily flailing to the bathroom she knocks over my sonico and porkchop
>my Sonicos headphones are now broken

Fucking 3dpd
Can I use super glue to fix this?
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>>144417083
get out
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>>144416983
First refund my money, then I'll leave.
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Anyone know of a printing place that does custom sizes, or will I just have to get an 18x24 from Staples and cut it down to size if I want to get a backdrop for a Detolf shelf?
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>>144417083
That's what you get for fucking a disease ridden hooker in front of you're pure maiden waifu.
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>>144417083
>having your waifus watch as you fuck a disgusting aids-riddled crack whore
Is there no end to your degeneracy?
Fucking kill yourself already.
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>>144417172
Kinkos I think, any college could do it for sure.
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>>144417083
You deserve it.
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>>144417214
>waifus
>s
You need to die along with him
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>>144417172
>backdrop
For what purpose? That would look tacky as hell.
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>>144417340
Looks good to me
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>>144417326
I was assuming that with how much of a degenerate he obviously is, it would not be a stretch to say that he probably has multiple waifus too.

Haruhi is the only one for me.
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no figures of her ;_;
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>>144416639
>>144416667
>>144416921
oh boy. calm down buyfags, that's moving way too fast. so what if it is a qt grill who likes buyfagging.
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>>144417083.
>fucking 3DPD
But that's exactly what you did.
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>>144417083
>people actually believe this
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>>144417423
So it's a girl then?
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>>144417340
I just want a sky/cloud background for all my Strike Witch Nendos.

Though I can't imagine it looking worse than nothing/an unrelated series wallscroll like so many people do.

>>144417280
Thanks, I honestly forgot Kinkos still existed.
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>>144417083
>barebacking and cumming inside a hooker

How??? I cant get the ones I see to fuck without a condom. Do I need to pay more?
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>>144417083
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>>144417529
There are a few who offer it if you bring papers. And usually yes.
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>>144417394
I want a fig of her too.
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>>144417083
You can use superglue to kill yourself, and you should you complete retard.
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>>144417394
>your waifu will never have a figure
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>>144417083
>implying you didn't just remove their heads

10/10, I laughed
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>>144417663
>>144417578
all i ask for is one decent looking figure
but no ;_;
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>>144416911
Koto has a US store.
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>>144414463
Sorry anon, but I'm a 330 pounds neckbeard.
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>>144417734
And it's garbage. Don't use it. Biggest shitshow of a store I've ever seen.
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>>144417476
Maybe? I know what the name is on the return address but i'll let your imaginations do the rest.
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>>144417754
Same, but I'm around 250lbs
>>
Anyone want to meet up here
http://www.nekonation.com/events/brisbane/
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>>144417754
Your cover has already been blown, admit defeat.
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>>144417754
stop ruining our fun.
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>>144417754
Are you Pochaco?
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>>144417806
step up your game senpai

>>144417831
You won't make me post my fat rolls.
>>
>>144417729
rip maid. at least we can get best re:zero grill.
>>
>>144417083
This was the most pathetic thing read this year so far.
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>>144417855
I just want you to post your cute loli smile
(*^ω^)
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>>144417892
Hopefully by someone good.
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>>144417892
Rem is fine, and I know she's more popular. But just I hope they make more Emilia figures. At least one that looks good.
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>>144418009
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>>144418005
Is it too much to ask Alter. Stop making Saber and start making what we want.
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>*Photos are of a prototype and the actual product may differ.

You mean it's going to look even worse?
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>>144418093
This one doesn't even look like Emilia. Look at the eyes. At the hair. The pose sucks too.

They should make a scale with Emilia posing like in the left.
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>>144418186
she didn't deserve that shitty fig. RIP.
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>>144418255

At least it can't get worse, right?
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>>144418249
this fig just doesn't carry the spirit of the character at all. its like they just looked at some screen caps and threw assets at the sculptor and he did his best. I think something along the lines of left pic would be a better product, holding out for Alter to come in a rape my wallet.
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I need a Himeragi figure. Which one of these should I track down and buy?
>>
>>144418186
>>144418255
>>144418383
She's supposed to get another scale by GSC right? Everything's going to be fine buyfriends.Ainz-sama wills it.
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>>144418383
It can always get worse. Hopefully we get that second season(?) and they do a new run of figs. But who knows.
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>>144418435
Well, hey Miia got painted, a fig I had long assumed to be dead so I guess miracles can happen in the world of PVC. I'm holding of on preordering until they fix that elbow though.
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>>144418502
>Hopefully we get that second season(?)

Nothing was ever announced on that, right?

>Figs

Well, at least we're getting Nendos, and they don't look too bad either. Just need the rest of the cast maybe.
>>
Any good Nami figures that are pre timeskip
>>
>>144418123
But I want more Alter Saber Alter.
>>
>>144415530
Did. Still no help
>>
>>144418409
>holding out for Alter to come in a rape my wallet.
I love it when Alter does that.

>>144418659
I admit being saberfag myself, but I want scales of other girls too. Albedo, Ayame-sama, Emilia, Rem. I want them all.
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>>144417083
Please don't tell you are joking.
>>
I'm selling a Satsuki Phat if anyone is interested.
http://myfigurecollection.net/sale/105737
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>>144418612
Would she bin? Since it's a memeshow and all, and normies don't buy figures.
>>
>>144418988
>lagitlel
How goes the dating?
>>
>>144418411
Far left looks best.
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>>144409526
Stupid bunny outfits meme can go die, now.
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>>144399160
>Nozomi has such a cool outfit and pose, while Alter's Nico looks like an explodes christmas tree.

If I don't see anything nice at WonFes I have to go with this one, I guess.
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unf that mound of venus
did anyone else here get this FATTY?
>>
>>144416619
>>144415359

Why did it take so long for your Roris

I got mine months ago
>>
>>144419201
Thankfully I don't care about Nico, but I feel sorry for you guys. You ended up with the whole shebang when it comes to shit elements regarding Alter Nico, I don't think they could've gone with a worse outfit.
>>
>>144419243
American shops ship their shit out months after Jap ones.
Same reason why I'll never understand people who act like TOM is worth a shit, all american shops are good for is ordering something that comes out on a month you've got several orders on already so you can get it months later without a 600$ invoice.
>>
>>144419082
>How goes the dating?
Not interested in a gf, that means less money for me to buy what I want.
>>
>>144418612
Which is worse - seaports hair seam or Miia's elbow seam?

>>144419053
My prediction is that she will, but only because she'll get put up for something like 25k.
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>>144402393
>>144402431
YES!
>>
>>144419509
Does this mean you've closed your dating accounts?
>>
>>144418411
IEEE SEMPAI
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>>144418411
The one in the back (X-Plus) looks to be in her most iconic appearance (the prize fig looks mediocre so that's a pass), so I'd personally go for that one. Her face looks the best on the Alter one (leftmost), but it doesn't look unique to her character (she just looks like a generic scantily-clad brown-haired anime girl). I think the X-Plus one is more in-character. It depends on how you see her character though. Would you rather have a figure that shows off her strength (X-Plus) or one that shows off her sexiness (Alter)?
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>>144419201
Yea Nozomi's and Kotori's look the best while I'm not sure what they were going for with the rest. A sailor, a cat a xmas tree and phantom?
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>>144419535
There haven't been any other lamia figures though right? Might be something that collector's would jump on, just for the sake of having it, even if they didn't give a fuck about the character.
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>>144414431
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/RereleaseForOurWolfGoddess

apparently we aren't the only ones
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>>144419697
That's a great answer.
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>>144419847
I still don't understand why, since it doesn't look that good. In fact, none of her figures are great especially the more expensive ones. I almost dropped 40K on the Volks one, then I saw a picture of the alternate face which I was going to display it with.
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>>144415359
I regret not pre-ordering her. Now's she's sold out in most places or around 200$
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>>144419243
well I got mine via a third party, so they had to get it first then they shipped it to me
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>>144419776
Maki looks amazing. Nozo and Birb both look grand too.

Waiting on Eli and Honk, both should be great.

Thankfully I don't give a shit about Hanayo or Nico and they're two of the worst in the set. I like Rin but her figure isn't very good.
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>>144414367
Use flash at least?
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>>144420068
That is a nice asperger face.
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>>144420130
In stock at Nippon-Yasan for 11.5k.
Do it if you really want it faggot.
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>>144420311
It's the only smug figure of her and it looks like shit. Shame.
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>>144420068
No regrets. But definitely agree that the Volks alt face is crap.
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>>144420068
I agree that most of her figures are underwhelming, but I still like the GSC one. There's just no way I'm paying $500 for it.
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>>144420315
T-thanks anon-chan
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>>144420358
There aren't enough smug or grumpy looking figures in general, even if it fits the character. It's a shame that only nendroids and joint shit have those.
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>Found a site that stocks my waifu's WS cards
>There's a foil
>It's 70 US

Even for my waifu, that's a bit much for a slip of cardboard

I bought 2 of every other card though
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>>144420438
Any time.
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>>144420216
Umi looks good
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>>144418765
Give up because you're never gonna find a decent figure at a non-Jew price unless a figure is re-released or a new one is made.
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>>144420619
Damn I haven't seen hers. Looks nice! I'll probably end up getting the whole set at this point. /goodbyewallet
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>>144420619
I'm still not sold on those leg warmers.

Luckily my opinions on the characters almost synch exactly with the figure aesthetics. Character ranking on the left, figure ranking on the right.
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>>144420876
>Kotori that low on either side
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>>144420876
>Honoka that high
>kotori that low

Where are you getting these rankings from?
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>>144416965
Madoka arrived yesterday and I have Homura on pre order.
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>>144420876
Is this a nip ranking? 'cause it's shit.
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Your Waifu will never get a figure
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>>144421099
Never thought I'd say this, but I think Japan might actually have better taste.
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>>144420934
What can I say, I have high hopes for both Elichika and Honk's figures, plus Maki and Nozomi's already look amazing. Kotori's face bugs me a little which is the one issue I have with an otherwise almost-perfect figure.

>>144420990
I adore Kotori but it's a case of she's just not as good as the others. Also Honk is really endearing to me, hate all you want.

And these are my rankings.

>>144421099
Nico a cancer
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>>144418411
I wasn't even aware she got an Alter figure. I'd get her after release if her mouth doesn't look so weird.
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Miyu's up for pre-order.

Anyone gonna get her?
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>>144421168
Not hating, I was just wondering if it was from a poll or something since honoka almost always scores the lowest.
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>>144421108
my waifu is saber

she has too many figures
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>>144421168
Please.
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>>144421108
clearly you have shit taste, cause if you had better taste then your waifu would have had some done by now

fuck it now I'm curious, who you holding out for?
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>>144421230
Nice for you
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>>144421305
Please don't bully the fatty.
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>>144421305
>Nico at the top
>NozoEli bottom

Fucking awful.
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>>144421080
Where did you get her and at what price?
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>>144421411
you may think it is shit taste
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>>144421305
>top three
>nico rin maki

I don't care about the order. This is the correct trio. Good job, I'm proud of you.
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>>144421305
You do realise Nico being the No.1 idol is just a part of her persona and not actually true, right?
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>>144421210
Good lord dat ass. I wish I had the money to PO, but shes like $30 more expensive than Illya was when she was first released.
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>>144421525
I got her from ebay for AUD $115
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Be sure to eat your broccoli
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>>144421758
>>144421467
Smug idols are the best.

Here's what I think about the Alter series, at least the ones that are past the painting stage.
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>>144418411
Alter one.

Maybe we'll get another one to come along with the next OVAs.
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>>144420377
A friend of mine has the bottom left or at least something similar, got it off etsy for like £20, box was battered to shit though
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>>144421973
That's what Nozomi is for.

Rin's figure just doesn't do much for me, it's those stupid Mickey Mouse pants. Umi's socks give me similar feelings, although they're better.

Hanayo's neck scares me, also.
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>>144421906
Oh man. I assume you had been looking at Manda for a while with no luck then?
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>>144421960
Oh lord
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>>144421960
Wasn't the Illya fig from this series kind of meh? I remember I had it on preorder and canceled after I saw some of the preproduction photos.
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>>144422285
That and I was impatient.
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>>144421960
So how's broccolis quality?
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>>144421960
Pretty dull for 11k
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>>144405017
another Saber Alter? mmm I already have this one preordered >>144402440 so I think I'll skip it
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Have any Canadians recently had tracking stop at Dispatch from outward office of exchange before being delivered?
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>>144423160
Having worked two summers at the postal service, that means that your package was flagged
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>>144423160
I worked at the Postal Service for awhile, usually that means it was held for suspicious reasons.
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>>144423160
Don't you guys have a full on postal strike going on?
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>>144423268
No. That shit was dropped for now.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if they were using what's going on to be extra lazy.
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>>144422671
The reason I canceled by preorder for their Illya is because it looks like a prize figure. I'm not sure that this isn't just a rebranding of Griffon. Look at some owner photos and make up your own mind: http://myfigurecollection.net/item/287678
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>>144423395
Oh god that looks terrible.
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>>144423483
Not the same anon but, I really don't have that much of a critical eye for these things, what are the main flaws of the figure that make it look terrible?
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>>144423683
Face isn't great, arm fuzzys look awful.
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>>144423776
I have a bigger problem with her hair and the paint job on her suit.
Looks like shit.
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>>144423776
Is it the expression or the quality of it? I see the arm fluffy things though
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>>144423896
Yeah, the interior of her hair doesn't appear to be detailed and seems rather generic for a long haired character
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>>144423927
It's mostly the mouth it's just like a pinhole with lip gloss.
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>>144423683
>the paint color and shading makes her skin look transparent, like onyx
>the contours of her body look generic, few to no details
>the clothing on her torso looks exactly like what it is: painted on
>thick, blunt clumps of hair strands and fluff on her outfit that look unnatural and low quality
>has a generic round face that relies on the framing of her hair and low quality decal eyes to make her look Illya-like - nothing really unique about her expression or her facial features otherwise
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>>144423683
The hair sculpt, the mouth and the fur look pretty bad.
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>>144424010
The expression could be better but zooming on the mouth does show a difference between mouth and tongue colouring
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>>144424044
What would be an example of a good - amazing quality figure?
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>>144424105
The Broccoli figure is just an overall low quality product. It would be acceptable for like 4000-5500 yen, especially if it was specifically marketed as a prize figure. Take a look at Amakuni's Illya and Kuro figures that were just released if you want to know what a 10,000 yen figure ought to look like, in terms of attention to detail and degree of quality that is expected.

>>144424230
Regardless of how you feel about the lumpiness, or the kind of forced facial expression, this figure is WAY higher quality, and does everything right in all of the ways I mentioned in >>144424044 that the Broccoli figure does wrong - and more.
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>>144424230
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>>144424353
That hair is not worth 10k, buddy.
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>>144424353
I see what you mean, thanks anon, I'll be more observant when purchasing in the future
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>>144424461
The hair is fine. It has depth, the strands are clearly defined and sharp, and the painting is clean and looks good. Just because she doesn't have a massive mane of gradient hair with twintails blowing in the wind doesn't mean that her hair needs to be a huge ordeal. As long as it looks like the source material and is not distracting for having flaws or looking low quality, then it's successful in my book.

>buddy
There's no need for the passive-aggression.
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Only 14500
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>>144424353
As much as I dislike Prisma Pedoshit illya the amount of effort put into the figure is obvious.
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>>144417083
hahaha holy shit
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>>144424478
Keep in mind that there is nothing wrong with buying it anyway, just to have a figure of Illya or Miyu in these outfits. A lot of people buy shit quality figures just because they are collectors or because they really love the character that much. I'm just trying to make sure you don't make a mistake for lack of perceptiveness. If you can live with the likely flaws, then don't feel bad about buying it.
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>>144424353
>Regardless of how you feel about two of the most important elements of the figure

obvious pedoshit pandering
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>>144424676
Yep. That's a figure of a male character. Uh-huh. Sure is.
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>>144424676
Doesn't look as bad as I originally thought. Face still looks kinda off though.
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>>144424937
Obvious homosexual.
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>>144425044
Might be the light but he doesn't look pale enough
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So, can anyone who has her attest to her quality?
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>>144418988
>used
>sword has crack in the handle
>multiple owners
>hot glued
>$90

There are sites selling this brand new free shipping right now for $87.
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>>144425322
I said or best offer. I got it for $60 on ebay. I should have asked for at least a partial refund since nothing was said about the crack.
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>>144404098
They were from the same store, the box had enough room for another figure I think they just messed up somehow. Will they ever reply to my email?
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I-I just dropped $600 on figures, including my holy grail (Dizzy from Guilty Gear). Please tell me I did the right thing since I didn't by anything for an entire year.
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>>144425620
I started buyfagging this year and I already have 6 grand in merchandise and pre orders down the tubes friend.
If it makes you happy to be surrounded by your shit then buy it, I love it, I love being at work knowing I'm working for my plastic.
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>>144425620
$600 isn't bad for an entire year. You did good.
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July is shaping up to be a rough month for me, this is from AmiAmi alone.. Hopefully the yen stays at it's current value for a bit.

Post your orders for this month/next month.
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>>144425620
I'm going to hit 1300 by the end of the year, and that's before Wonfest. You're fine.

It occurs to me that I could just about have a shitty motorcycle though. There's a possibility it's time to rethink my priorities.
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>>144418005
>>144418123
>Rem by Alter
Sweet Jesus hear my prayer
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>>144425699
>>144425684
>>144425748
Thank god. I couldn't resist this beautiful figure at all. Too bad I work on a PhD salary though
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This will be my 4th figure that has a removable tail buttplug.

I had a hard time deciding between the grey tabbycat and the white cat version.
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>>144425777
>$600 for that Dizzy
Are you for real? People here are selling that for like $120 top.
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>>144425620
>Just dropped 65$ on a Gunbuster poster
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>>144425702
I only ordered this for this/next month
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>>144425829
I didn't spend $600 for her. She was $140 with the shipping. The other $500 was spent on Ryougi Shiki, Muramasa, two Kantai stuff, and Leafa.

Amazon and AmiAmi combo works well.
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Is there typically a lot of shill bidders on Yahoo Japan Auctions?

I won a few auctions recently and a number of them all conveniently ended ~100 yen or so short of my max bid. I know they like to take advantage or proxy services (i use my own account for bidding), and i'm not dropping a huge max bid really early or anything.
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>>144425829
He said $600 on figureS (i.e. more than one) including Dizzy
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>>144425902
Possibly? I just don't really enjoy having to make deposits in bulk amounts to toss at auctions.
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>>144425884
>>144425946
I somehow read that as "I just dropped that on my holy grail" only.

I'm retarded, I suck cock.
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>>144425884
>$600 for 6 figures
Are you a wizard?
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>>144426007
>I'm retarded, I suck cock.
Yes you are, anon. And yes you do.
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>>144426013
>still trying to force this hooker meme
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>>144426013
No one cares you fucking walking virus.
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>>144425902
I thought that's how auctions work. That's the minimum increment going to work.
Your max bid is 5,000. Someone else's is 7,000. They'll win the auction for 5,100 if the increment is 100.
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>>144426007
How long until China is a legitimate thread in 2.5D?
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>>144421960
>>144422887
Where's the Kuro one?
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>>144426013
Chump change. I spend a $1000+ every week to travel to a different country.
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>>144426144
And you still take time out of your life to post on /a/ in buyfag threads. What a guy!
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>>144425880
me too, got 3 others on preorder for later in the year and early next year
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>>144426117
Not anytime soon. They still have a long way to go.
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>>144426144
That's chump change, I'm Bill Gates.
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Did I miss wonfes?
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>>144426336
No.
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If you pre-ordered this and you don't plan to hot glue it, you're doing it wrong.
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>>144426389
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>>144426389
You're doing it wrong if you order that piece of trash at all.
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>>144426458
It's cute I guess, not worth more than £30 in my opinion
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>>144426389
>>144426426
>>144426426
I plan on hotgluing that fat butt
I'll be sure to post a video on /gif/
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>>144426664
I look forward to watching it when you do
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>>144426664
How much did it cost you?
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Is GSC in some deep shit money wise? Why are they re-releasing so many Sabers in such quick succession?
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>>144426713
His dignity and his soul.
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It's normal for tracking numbers to not work until a few hours later, right?
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>>144426776
Yes anon.
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>>144426776
Yes.
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>>144426760
Because the F/GO hype and by extension all fateshit still going really strong? Why wouldn't they capitalize it immediately?
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>>144426854
But she's always popular.
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>>144426694
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Help me build a collection /a/ would be proud of.
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>>144426959
>He's not subscribed to r/Cummingonfigs and the hotglue thread on /gif/
Pleb
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>>144427005
Get some Sabers.
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>>144427005
Dragon dildos.
Dragon dildos everywhere!
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>>144427005
Get started.
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>>144427005
Buy Miku, Sonico, Porkchop, boats and Saber figs.
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>>144427005
Get some Mikus if you want to fit in with us big boy
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>>144427052
Miku and Saberfags should just kill themselves.
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>>144427005
>letting strangers on the internet decide what is good figure and what is not
I will never be proud of faggot like you. Man the fuck up and decide on your own.
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>>144427077
I want to fit in though.
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>>144427052
Porkchop???
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>>144427135
Your mother's nickname.
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>>144426199
Myethos is making a pretty strong push for it and clearly they already understand my dick. Let's just hope they stick to originals.
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>>144427005
dont buy any
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>>144404935
Maybe we will get a true Sakura figure with Heavens feel comes out next year.
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>>144427342
To be fair to them I notice huge improvements with each new release, but overall I'd say they are still Freeing tier.

The character design makes up for the lack of quality though, at least in Alice ad Queen of Hearts.
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>>144427610
>To be fair to them I notice huge improvements with each new release
True.

>but overall I'd say they are still Freeing tier.
I'd put them above that, but either way for a second release from China that's pretty damn good.

>The character design makes up for the lack of quality though
I tend to agree. Even the clear semen-demon beer lady I posted had more design going for her than bunnygirl #8624512. They're trying and succeeding at that.
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>>144415359
Like that Death figure.
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>>144427608
I hope not, it's by far the worst route, and Sakura is by far the worst heroine.

I want some more Rin figures.
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>>144427805
>Saberfags falseflagging as Rinfags
Ebin
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>>144427805
>He serious.
I'm not even a Sakura fag and i still feel bad and enjoy a lot about her Rout.
I would happily put a nice figure of her with my Sabers.
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>>144427608
>get a true Sakura figure
?
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>>144427989
That ones ok.
I would like something Softer in tone and with daily clothing.
Never really a fan of dark grail Sakura.
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>>144408718
Im still so surprised this will exist.
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>>144425265
The paint is spotty at best. Sculpt is good though.
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I swear every other figure by Alter is Saber
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>>144428493
I love vanilla saber.
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>>144428493
>tfw no Illya or Miyu saber
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>>144428493
Nah. Just "3" this year. And that's not even counting the boys.
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>>144428563
I'd rather Ilya and/or Kuro Archers.

They really look their best, imitating their Onii-san.
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>>144405003
>>144405707
>>144406540
>>144406730

I'm still really excited about getting these. It's a fantastic feeling, isn't it?

First time I've been able to order anything since Christmas. Gonna skip some meals to afford these (and the associated paints)
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>>144428992
Good luck.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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