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Why was the adaptation done so badly?
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>>144397312
Shit director, all budget already went to Rakudai.
At least the soundtrack, OP and ED were good.

Full volume 12 translation fucking when.
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>>144397618
Never :^)
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Because its source material wasn't popular.

And so the publishers didn't see the need to give it much budget in the first place.
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>>144397675
It seem like volume 12 is being translated by someone else. From what I've read, prologue + 2 chapters have been translated.
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>>144397705
Which is weird, because the girls are legitimately better. In looks and personality. Even the MC is better.
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>>144398353
It wasnt
Stop this shitty meme right now, it was another generic harem LN
How can you expect a good adaptation when the souce material is fucking shit
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>>144397312
>magic academy haremshit
You can't polish a turd
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>>144397618
Isn't it fully translated?
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>>144399656
It is?
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>>144399509
Keep crying. The source material is gr8 m8. Good characters, fun action, nice lore, and simple development. That already puts it above the 99% of infested shitfests.
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>>144399868
This says it is:
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=106148

Too lazy to check krytyk's site though.
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>>144400535
https://krytykal.org/antimagic/volume-12/
Holy shit it's real.
Whoa
Shit
Thank you anon, words can't describe how happy I am right now.
>>144399918
Not to mention MGR soundtrack goes well with it.
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>>144400694
Happy reading anon. I've still got the last 3 volumes of Rokujouma, last vol of OSO and Grimgar before I start marathoning AntiMagic from the beginning.
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>>144400904
https://a.pomf.cat/tincnu.webm
Make sure you've a MGR soundtrack prepared. Do you have the list of soundtracks that fit certain fights?
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>>144397312
I want to watch it but no BD subs
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>>144402008
There definitely are.
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I love Mari!
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I was just about to make the thread, there was a double release for chapters 4 and 5 for Volume 12.
>>144399918
The fact that the tournament was ruined right off the bat as well as its setting being ever slightly so different put it above the rest.

Not to mention, decent male side characters.
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>>144399509
When you take all the small details out of a slightly intricate setting and rush the shit out of stuff, it turns out bad. Every fight was given the shtity CG treatment too.

Everything else went right though, the VA choice was unexpectedly amazing.
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>>144403073
Not to mention as soon as the author was given the get go he ditched them straight out of that shitty school setting.
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Don't forget to read the remainder of volume 12 with the OST playing in the background.
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>>144403520
Is there a consensus for the theme for this volume? Which fights are thete?
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>>144403564
There*
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>>144403564
Haunted vs Onii-sama
The latter kills Haunted at least a few thousand times in a span of 5 minutes.

Then there's everyone's struggle with Kiseki
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>>144397312
Not enough Ouka
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>>144403486
That too, there's actual plot that keeps the series going at a brisk pace without needing to introduce a new girl every volume for the MC to win over.
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>>144402917
Mari a shit!
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>>144403703
Ouka please
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>>144403624
The theme was understanding. Like most of the fights were pretty much just trying to persuade Kiseki. Not sure what song would work.
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>>144403737
Someone's gotta rip that bandaid off. The sooner you learn your waifu is shit, the better.
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>>144403703
Lapis is literally the best Anti-Magic girl, why do others even try to dispute this.
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>>144404070
2nd best*
Pic related.
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Vlad ;_;
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>>144404102
She's okay.
A bit plain compared to everyone else.
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>>144404256
>smokin' hot
>good cook
>has high class genes
>already thinking about having babies
>kicks ass even without any magical powers
Usagi is objectively the best girl in Antimagic.
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Last volume is out apparently https://krytykal.org/the-short-epilogue-and-why-on-earth-is-afterword-nine-pages-long/
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>>144404424
You can't get anywhere close to high-class genes when you've got gene-manipulating girls like Ikaruga around.
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>>144404463
I swear to god, if they don't have some kickass color spread for this one.

And that Another Mission 2 better have some Kyouya-Yoshimizu-Nero shenanigens
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>>144404424
She really is wife material.
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>>144404572
We've come a long way
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>>144404653
So did the illustrator.
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So who wins the MC bowl?
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>>144404653
We certainly have.
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>>144404782
It'll be a damn miracle if he even makes it out of this alive.

But if anything, Lapis is most likely to die.
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>>144404749
She's one of my personal favorites.
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>>144404572
>another kyouya illustration never
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>>144405148
At least we've got a lot of Kurogane and Haunted
Honestly though, Kyouya barely exists in the illustrations for as many times he shows up.
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For your ardent love for antimagic and the best girls, I shall bestow a spoiler upon you all.

Kyouya becomes a baker.
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>>144405303
Kyouya goes Clannad
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>>144404572
I hope Kyouya gets to fight Haunted too. Doesn't seem right that Kurogane gets to kill him, considering how much of a pain he's been.
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OTP.
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I see a time skip wndingw confirmed.

>>144404848
>Lapis is most likely to die.
Anon, ore wa...

;___;
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>>144404848
>>144406048
Lapis doesn't die, none of the girls dies and in fact, one comes back to life. Still... nghh. *sighs*

That's about as much as I can spoil. If you don't want spoilers, don't enter.
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>>144406197
>Comes back
Isuka?
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>>144405303
This is great, haha.

>>144406254
Maybe Nagaru.
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>>144405827
More illustrations
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>>144405827
I agree.
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>>144405827
I actually don't mind if they get together. Takeru can get with Usagi and Ikagura.
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>>144406906
Everything else is spoiler-heavy, I'm not gonna do you such a disservice.

And on that note, I'm off for today.
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>>144407172
Nothing else with Kyouya?
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>>144400694
I Thought Krytykal dropped AM for good, wonder what made him pick it up again.
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>>144407572
He never dropped it in earnest, just as a precaution in case jewpress lapped it up. They didn't bother so now he can continue openly again.
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Holy shit, I knew krytyk did those chapters shared through ghostbin (it was in his style and the fucking image files inside pointed to his site if you dug around a bit) but I didn't think he'd pick it up openly again, absolutely based. Really glad I didn't miss this thread.

>>144401043
The Only Thing I Know For Real = Takeru in God Hunter form
A Stranger I Remain = Laugh Maker
Red Sun = Haunted
The Hot Wind Blowing = Onii-sama
It Has to be This Way = Takeru and Kyouya especially Vol 9
I'm My Own Master Now = Takeru fights Onii-sama for the Truth
The Stains of Time = Orochi
Collective Consciousness = Sougetsu
A Soul Can’t Be Cut = Kiseki
Rules of Nature = Mech Dragons
Dark Skies = Orochi and Mother Goose
Locked & Loaded = Kyouya
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>>144404102
>>144404256
>>144404424
Barely noticed that she kinda resembles Sharo. Pretty cute.
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>>144408912
>Kyouya is rejected-Takeru
Heh
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>>144408912
Whoever came up with this list is a fucking great guy, my enjoyment of the series was really boosted from this honestly.

Glad to see Krytyk pick up the translations again, and I'll gladly recant all my previous statements in other threads where I referred to him as a bitch.

In hindsight it was pretty immature to complain about someone who was doing it for free and out of their own free time stopping. It was just pretty depressing to see a series so close to its conclusion get the translation suddenly dropped. So I really appreciate him picking it up again.
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>>144410490
Hope came back to us
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>>144411581
Was that hope you said? Good, feel hope. Feel happiness. Praise whatever gods you pray to. Because that will make the fall to despair all so sweeter.
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>>144411824
The face is so fucking perfect
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>>144409889
The illustrator also happens to be fond of bunnies in general. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Usagi's design was directly taken from Sharo's.
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Are spoilers on baidu?
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>>144413691
Krytyk will deliver
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>>144397312
12 episode industry killed anime.

I preferred if we had less shows each season but were longer. Not that before anime was better, but with longer series at least it had the redeeming point that you grew attached to the characters so at the end even if the show and characters were shit, you still would enjoy it anyway, cause you got attached to them.

Trigun for example was shit but eh, after 24 episodes you loved Vash

With 12 episode series that doesn't happen so we just have forgettable shows.
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>>144415221
If only Aniplex had picked this instead of Asterisk.
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>kiseki anon hasn't posted
Doesn't feel right without him.
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>>144413691
Just wait a day.

>>144415724
We must keep the thread alive until his arrival.
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>>144415724
He's a heretic
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>>144415221
I wouldn't go so far as to say it has ruined the modern industry, but he has certainly harmed a great deal of series. I recall examples like Angel Beats where they wrote it thinking they were getting a 26 episode series, and then told nearly at the last minute they were only getting 13 (which was steadily becoming the standard at the time).

In terms of resources it makes sense, they can put more quality into each episode and with some series this can really work out for the better. However a lot of them just leads to shows that feel half-baked, characters or plot-lines feel underdeveloped, and there tends to be a lot of pacing issues that come along with it too. Series tend to start off slow, and suddenly kick it to high gear, potentially giving a feeling of whiplash to the audience.

So it's certainly one of the reasons why this series' adaptation was a failure. Though it also had a lot to do with Silver Link trying to do multiple shows that season, assigning a rookie director to the show, and basically treating the show as a failure from the start (which is a shame because the score, the cast, and the designs were great).
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>>144415712
>Aniplex
God no, because then A-1 would be animating this and manage to be even worse of an adaptation. Really, I'd prefer if Silver Link topped playing with their dicks and put this as their #1 instead of Rakudai.
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What did she mean by this?
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Author reveals in the afterword that he didn't do incest end only because he doesn't understand wincest.

What a faggot.
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>>144419751
It was one sided obsession anyway on Kiseki's end
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>>144419751
The guy himself said, regarding romance, "it's one thing that I'm not too good at it, but it also doesn't fit the story"
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>>144420454
It doesn't really fit the story. Especially if it wasn't that well written. Good move by the author.
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>>144397312
>Why was the adaptation done so badly?
People always defend LN adaptations with "well the anime butchered it, the novel is better" but that seems like a load of crap.

If you like a light novel anime adaptation then most likely you will like the source material too, but is there anyone here who has watched an anime and hated/disliked it, but then went on to read the novel and actually found it enjoyable?

I want to see some examples.

On a side note, I actually enjoyed the anime for NGNL more than the novels which I ended up dropping because the writing/translation was just awful.
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>>144419751
>>144420454
>>144420722
Good guy author. Knows romance isn't that much of a focus and doesn't try to force it anyways.
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>>144419751
Well also because Kiseki was becoming too much of his own sister. He got too into it, to the point he felt disturbed by the idea of incest.
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>>144420966
>there anyone here who has watched an anime and hated/disliked it, but then went on to read the novel and actually found it enjoyable?
Me. I disliked Index's adaptation but loved the LN's. Same goes for DxD's third season. I can also say I didn't like DAL s2 but when I read the volumes that the anime covered I liked them. LN adaptations are usually shit because they're just a cheap ad for the source.
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>>144420966
>If you like a light novel anime adaptation then most likely you will like the source material too, but is there anyone here who has watched an anime and hated/disliked it, but then went on to read the novel and actually found it enjoyable?
There was this series, for one.

Aside from this?

Uh, Black Bullet I suppose.

Danganronpa, though that wasn't a LN.

Railgun, though that wasn't an LN either.

With this series though people can point to specific aspects of the novels that were enjoyable to read which were badly adapted for the anime.
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>>144420966
>is there anyone here who has watched an anime and hated/disliked it, but then went on to read the novel and actually found it enjoyable?

Yes. I'm one of the people that watched the first few episodes of Taimadou, found it shitty, but liked the lore, so I checked out the LN and found it great. That's literally what a lot of people are complaining about when talking about the anime adaptation. The LN is actually great, but Silver Link really dropped the fucking ball.
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>>144421162
>LN adaptations are usually shit because they're just a cheap ad for the source.
That's a fair point, but when you think about it: they pitch you the actual selling points of the series. Everything the novels add on top of that is just icing and sprinkles.

Also I'm curious:
Did you pick up the novels after watching the anime or before?
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>>144420966
Persona 4 although that was a game and not a LN.
Fate/stay night although that was a VN and not a LN.
LNs just generally suck but Antimagic Academy was at least fun to watch and had well described chuuni battles and SUFFERING backstory which was very poorly conveyed into animation.
For example in the second episode a fat King Arthur shoots a purple beam at Takeru which gets absorbed and used to cut fat King Arthur down.
Had they actually adapted what happened in the novel, fat King Arthur purges his armor to become superspeed King Arthur and has a bullet time superspeed duel with Takeru, then shoots the Knights of the Round Table at him who get cut down one by one in bullet time.
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>>144421268
The anime usually sells me on the premise, and that's what gets me to read them.

It depends on what. For DxD I picked up after the second season. Index I did it after watching both seasons. DAL also after the second season.
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>>144421268
>they pitch you the actual selling points of the series
too bad Antimagic couldn't even do that properly.
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>>144421691
How bad were the BD sales again?
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Anyone here have the soundtrack to download?
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>>144421037
It makes me wonder what the short stories will be about in Another Mission 2.

>>144421098
He doesn't have a little sister.

>>144420966
Pretty much what >>144421265 said. Also, aside from this would be Black Bullet. There's probably another one or two, but I just can't remember atm.

>>144421863
https://mega.nz/#F!AFNnWaYJ!AfieKq0BWf_xDRB5AFRT4A
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>>144421815
Below 1000 IIRC.
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>>144421863
>What is google?
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CALLING CALLING
sad that the other 2 haremshit was more popular
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>>144421996
>Kippu never bothered drawing Caligula nor Maximilian
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Imagine if this show got a Re:Zero-quality adaptation by White Fox.
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>>144422111
Does he even have a Hero Form? Also

>Anti-Magic Kurogane over Rakudai Kurogane
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>>144422384
He's got dual Witch Hunter armor
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>>144422179
Unfortunately isekai is the present hotness, magical battle academy is old and busted.
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>>144422179
I'd be importing the BD's.
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>>144422179
Stop being bitter about it. It wasn't popular so Kadokawa didn't give a fuck.
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>>144422915
Re:Zero wasn't that popular either.
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>>144422956
But ReZero was isekai story so it had potential to be big riding on the isekai boom. Antimagic was a mid-00s magic academy battle harem throwback so it only had the potential to fight over scraps with Rakudai and Asterisk.
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>>144422956
It was certainly more popular than AntiMagic's obscurity. Besides the point, it came out at the right moment just as the isekai fad had finally started gaining steam so obviously big investments all around.

If AntiMagic was written back in the late 00s when urban fantasy was at its peak because of shit like Index airing then yes it would have probably gotten better backing, better staff, and probably a better adaptation.

Now get over it.
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>>144422461
Damn that's cool. I'm kind of happy he wasn't the MC though. Characters like him are better in doses.
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>>144423722
Which is why he's so great
The chosen one is the side character
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>>144397312
Yes, but the source material was also shit. So there's that.
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Ouka did nothing wrong.
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>>144424412
When will this meme end.
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>>144424587
She did everything wrong. Laugh Maker should have killed her when she had the chance.
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>>144425064
When the "anime butchered it" meme ends.
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>>144425433
Which doesn't tend to be a meme when the anime does a piss-poor job of conveying the tone and setting of the source material, let alone accurately adapting the characters and their motivations. You get bad anime adaptations-hell, not even just anime-bad adaptations all around, while the source material is actually great.
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>>144425569
Also half-assing fights and changing the finale to anime original
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>>144425895
And cutting character interactions. Why did they do that to poor Lapis?
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>>144426035
Cause they would never reach her volume
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>>144426145
It was still mean.
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>>144397312
When the fuck is the LN artist going to make another art book?
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>>144426307
There was a Anti-Magic artbook?
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>>144426307
Hopefully soon.

>>144426659
No, he means an art book in general.
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>>144424587
She did execute a bunch of prisoners back before she joined the squad.
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Muh dick
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>>144427937
>Long-haired Usagi
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It has been a year or something already and I've forgotten most of the details from previous volumes. Gotta read all of it again to build up the hype meter for the final.

It's a real shame this series doesn't sell for some reasons. I'll buy it one day but as of now I lack the money and taking in books at this time is not a good idea, not to mention it's not easy to place an order from to my resident in the first place.
Anyone knows if author has a twitter?
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>>144427937
MUH
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>>144427937
OH SHIT.
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>>144427937
Aw, it's them at a later-wait
>short-hair Ikagura

N O P E
O
P
E
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>>144427937
>Everyone becomes EXE while Kyouya becomes a baker.
Not sure how to feel
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>>144428094
He does. He was naming his weapons in Fallout 4 with relic eater numbers
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>>144416261
Looking on the bright side though, I'm sure a lot of anime that normally wouldn't see the light of green were made thanks to the 13 episodes format.
Bad adaptions are going to be bad adaptions regardless of format. I'm sure there are inherently bad quality of this format but the same could be said about 24 episodes and in the end, it's up to the staffs to make best use of what they got. I guess if there's anything that really bother me is the fact that I'll never see any real ending to any series of adaptions as long as this 12 episode format is maintained.
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>>144428352
Any news on if he will do a new series? I look forward to a series with a less bullshit premise and more thought put into it at the start, instead of his half assing for the first few volumes.
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>>144428094
https://twitter.com/yanagimi
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>>144428401
I think it was mentioned here that he said he wanted to do a more light-hearted series next.
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>>144427937
Usagi looks like a proper maiden now.
Mari looks like some kind of detective character in her late twenty.
That Ouka is bretty fuckin good.
Suginami is now an office Christmas cake.
Is it just me or Takeru looks younger?
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>>144428566
He looks happier, which is why I'm wary of this photo.
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>>144427937
Wait, so I'm assuming that this means the series ended with an open ending romance wise considering this pic, and the fact that the author has stated he doesn't feel like he is good at romance right?
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>>144428331
Every badass of some sort always ended doing some healing jobs. Food maker seem to be a favorite occupation for war vets.
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>>144428672
Wait, him being a baker is legit? Fucking what?
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>>144428749
He's going full Clannad with Yoshimizu
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>>144428665
They're still young and alive.
Wonder what Kurogane is up to
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>>144428665
Most likely. But the fact that it's a time skip really makes me interested in those short stories now.

>>144428331
Wonder about Nero.
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>>144428846
Mistress and portable oven most likely
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What happened to Kiseki? she's still around right?
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Reading prologue and chapter 1 right now. Holy shit, the happening is fucking happening.
At this point they would be better off just rewriting the world.
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Mari = Lapis > Ouka > *
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>>144427937
I hate it when girls with long hair cut their hair.

Also, what the fuck happened to the dark elf.
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>>144429671
Which is what Orochi wanted to do but Takeru is a super fucking faggot.

Orochi wanted to rewrite a world where he could also get to experience a normal childhood with his own younger sister but Takeru was like fuck you, fuck that, I'm gonna kill you, instead.
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>>144430603
He didn't want a world made of an illusion, he wanted the real fucking deal.
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>>144431157
The new world is not illusion though? More like he didn't want everyone's struggle to be pointless or some shit, I don't remember.
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>>144431428
I really should reread the series.
But I guess his point was decent enough I guess, he wouldn't have met everyone if it weren't for the screwed up world they all ended up being in the first place
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>>144427937
>KIseki doesn't become human, still remains hyakki
>Mari is a teacher.
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>>144431766
That curse ain't going away that easily.
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>>144431480
Mother Goose did promise everyone will meet again in the new world, just without the memory of previous world, that one I remember for sure. To be honest at that point I thought it was a pretty good deal but at the same time, Takeru made a decent point. For me it's just rewriting the world and removing magic completely has a lot uncertainty and unforeseeable side effects to it and while everyone will get together again, it just doesn't sit right to throw out altogether the current life you have had until now.
I completely change my point now though. With Inquisition nearly wiped out, Tokyo is super dead, when the battle end the balance of power will be shifted to magic side which won't ended up well. I still sympathize with how Takeru feel but in hindsight, they really should have accepted Mother Goose deal.
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Well then, big Lapis spoiler.

>In order to return Takeru back to others, she decided to become a god by herself. To do that, she devoured Sougetsu's soul. She's an invisible and untouchable existence, but still appears to be by MC's side (he still retains soul-less(?) Mistilteinn) and he can somewhat feel her presence and hear her speak as hinted by epilogue.
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>>144431816
Mother Goose didn't intend to remove magic. She intended to remake the world completely, making it a land of happiness and social justice where everyone has magic.
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>Ctrl F
>shout
>No results

This was an issue. All the VAs were always shouting. Even my boi Hosoya.
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>>144431908
>This was an issue.
You again.
There was actually conflict that wasn't a trite tournament, why wouldn't they be shouting
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>>144432752
Damn, just the two
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>launging octopus is Ouka
Oh shit I realize now.
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>>144432752
So did they fuse into a heavenly superperson after all?
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>>144433199
>>144431873
^Spoiler.
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>>144433241
Better stay out of these threads for until vol 13 is completely translated.
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>>144433494
I don't think I can, I love you faggots too much.
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>>144433494
I can't fucking wait for a full TL.
Hopefully this means Another Mission 1 gets fully done too
>>
Now that it's finally over can we all agree AntiMagic is the worst battle harem of that season?

The dialogue was terrible; the story was nonsensical; the seiyuu's only had one emotion: angry; Mari wasn't even that cute.
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>>144434168
I missed you too.
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>>144434168
It's been a while.
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>>144434201
Now we're lacking just the stellafag.
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>>144435334
Please no, I'm glad he (mostly) avoided the threads during airing.
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Did anyone post this yet?

https://imgur.com/a/lYIk1
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>>144436735
Nope. Thanks, anon.
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>>144437066
Don't thank me, I just copy-pasta'ed from AS.
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>>144397312
They got poor writer, and basically faggots at publisher who forced them to adapt almost all arch in just 12 episodes.
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>>144437189
According to author's afterword (vol 12), they also had little time for adaptation, with lots of changes and stuff happening mid-way.
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>>144436735
>We never got to see Natch's human form

One fucking chance. There better be a artbook for this series. Or a materials or something. I need more.
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>>144438080
I'd imagine she was a cute loli.
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>>144438163
I always envisioned her more mature, kinda like Albedo but with small breasts.
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>>144438080
Just imagine nemesis from to-love-ru, just less lewd and more mature, and more depressing.
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>>144438163
>>144438229
>In her human form, Nacht wears a black, goth-loli dress and had blue and blackish hair. Her eyes are particularly dark and iridescent, and gave off a villainous hue.

This is what the wiki says about her human form. I really hope she's not a loli, but. I prefer for her to have a mature form as well.
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>>144436735
Fuck those Lapis illustrations are too cute
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>>144438544
It's Lapis who's too cute.
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>>144438636
This is true.
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>>144438341
Her voice is pretty mature in the anime if that's any justification. If they were going to do an anime original ending with Haunted they could've at least shown her human form the bastards.
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>>144439166
Seriously. They gave Nero a Hero Form but couldn't show Nacht's human form? The fuck is up with that?
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>>144439373
Being Nacht is despairing.
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What happened to Haunted at the end, I wonder?
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>>144440451
Haunted fights Hayato, draws against him or something close to that and is killed by Kyouya.

Then, he reappears at the very end as a last boss and is killed again by Takeru (for good, I think).
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>>144440562
So Kyouya got a chance to take him on after all. Nice. Also, Haunted himself said he was out of lives so I doubt he lived after being slain by Takeru.
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>>144441760
I bet it was something like him leaving one or two more lives just in case, and sacrificing all others.
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Thread dead?
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>>144444392
Probably.
Post more Lapis.
I really dislike the fact that Lapis will become the god, it should have continued with soul fuse
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This is the most criminally underrated battle harem.
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>>144444552
But that would have meant Takeru never came back to his haremu.
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>>144444392
ded
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>>144444552
More Lapis coming right up.
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>>144444552
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>>144440562
>killed by Kyouya.
Sweet justice
>>144439373
Same goes for Kyouya in general and a lot of other armors
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>>144440562
>Haunted was the last boss after all
Jesus christ, he just doesn't quit, what a guy
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>>144445271
Best Boy. Others can't compete.
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>>144438341
I think she is a loli
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>>144446609
She might be a bit older-looking and taller than Lapis, but not necessarily mature. Something like evil dark version of Mari?
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>>144421265
> The LN is actually great

What do you mean by great specifically?

Does it spare the reader of worthless forced exposition?

Is the prose in general competent, or is it either stilted or full of overly florid or repetitive passages that don't contribute anything meaningful?

Does it build the world through any semblance of "show, don't tell"?

Does it paint relatable multifaceted characters and support that by showing their interactions in combinations that aren't all "harem lead x harem girl"?

Do dramatic moments arise from humanly understandable conflicts between characters and their diverging personal values and goals, or is there an evil mastermind who's just evil because lol evil?

Are tragic moments emotionally justified, or are they the equivalent of the sudden appearance of the ever-looming Truck-kun, bane of Japanese school girls?

Most of the LNs that I've tried to read fail on at least three or four counts of these.
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>>144446920
I imagined her to be a bit more than Nero, to be honest.

>>144445008
Seriously though, I hope we get a materials that shows everyone's Hero Forms and the human forms of the Relics.
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>>144446920
There's a better description of her in Volume 6
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>>144447357
We need everything that isn't Takeru and Lapis in illustrations.
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>>144446053
You seem to be forgetting about Onii-sama, anon.

>>144446920
Speaking of Lapis, wasn't she the only magical heritage (that we know of) said to take on a different appearance? Being influenced by another's.
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>>144447477
All of them are influenced to some point. For example Vlad seems influenced by Ouka's father, just a little bigger.
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>>144447275
>Does it paint relatable multifaceted characters and support that by showing their interactions in combinations that aren't all "harem lead x harem girl"?
Yes
>Do dramatic moments arise from humanly understandable conflicts between characters and their diverging personal values and goals, or is there an evil mastermind who's just evil because lol evil?
Both. Done well.
>Are tragic moments emotionally justified,
Yes
>
Does it build the world through any semblance of "show, don't tell"?
Yes. Eveything is often hinted at or foreshadowed. Left around until the min characters or others in the know bring it up.
>Is the prose in general competent, or is it either stilted or full of overly florid or repetitive passages that don't contribute anything meaningful?
I would say no to the second. But the translation does have it's problems, so really who the fuck knows.
>Does it spare the reader of worthless forced exposition?
Yes. But also same as above.
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>>144448199
>Eveything is often hinted at or foreshadowed. Left around until the min characters or others in the know bring it up.
Except for Mari.
Now you don't bring that "foreshadow" about her answering question in class up. That one is not even close to qualify as a foreshadow.
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>>144448546
Mari wasn't meant to be foreshadowed though. She was always there.
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>>144448199
> > Does it build the world through any semblance of "show, don't tell"?
> Yes. Eveything is often hinted at or foreshadowed. Left around until the min characters or others in the know bring it up.

Sorry, I should probably have been a bit more clear there.

By that I meant things like instead of the narrator or protagonist explaining that "in this country, magic users are terribly oppressed" you would let the reader infer that as a more whole picture complete through smaller incidental moments like a magic user addressing a police officer with a fearful and overly subservient tone, or a mother desperately yelling at their child to not use magic in public.

The simple explanation doesn't build mood, doesn't work toward any kind of narrative priorities, and doesn't give any reason to care.

This is the kind of thing where a huge amount of literary work fails in its world building, with explanations and exposition TELLING about the world in a boring and matter-of-fact way like the most uninspired history books, instead of SHOWING what the world is like through the logical consequences.

You've convinced me to give this a try but the prologue chapter starting with exactly that kind of dry history recap doesn't exactly fill me with hope. Let's see if it gets better.
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>>144449219
First few volumes are pretty much the author bullshitting. Later volumes are the author pretty much putting his bullshit together into something reasonable. Honestly, you aren't gong to get something deep, but it's a fun action LN.
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>>144449219
Read until volume 5. If after that one you don't like it drop it, but that's when the author was allowed to let shit get real and what the anime.
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>>144449500
What the anime butchered*
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>>144449219
Not too many things are done well with the first 4 volumes
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>>144450329
Actually if you look in hindsight, after the stuff starts make sense, it's all right.
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>>144448199
>>144448960
Deus ex Mari is strangely enough one of my favorite parts of this series. I mean in any other story I would be raging at the asspulls, yet with Mari it was nothing but entertaining.

Truly the Best Girl
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>>144452074
MARI A MINI. A MINI.
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>>144452074
Because Mari needs something in the story to offset her being flat as a board.
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>>144452130
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>>144448199
>>144448960
Can I just say that I love the illustrations for this series? Like it manages to give a gritty feel to it while not draining all the color out of it to make it appear grimdark.

Seriously, ignoring the merits of the novel itself, it's really sad that even the art gets underappreciated.
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>>144452221
The art was what drew me to this. Both the LN and the anime have fantastic art direction.
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>>144452221
I would appreciate it more if we had more characters being drawn
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>>144452221
Volume 7 spread is the best.
This one is okay.
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>>144452531
Seriously. Shouldn't these sorts of stories have all the character illustrations by now.
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>>144452592
volume 7 spread doesn't have lapis or mari, so it can't be best.
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>>144452635
We just need Sage, Yuzuho, and more of Kyouya.
Yoshimizu too since her only appearance is based off what we see of Nero and courtesy of the anime
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>>144452074
>Truly the Best Girl
Indeed.

>>144452157
Being flat as a board is but one of her many alluring features.

>>144452221
The illustrator is great. It's pretty unfortunate she doesn't get that many projects, though. Besides this, Nourin is probably the only work people may know of that's by her.
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>>144452221
>>144452592
I like how the artist doesn't shy away from making the characters look serious and using their body language to convey their expressions.
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>>144452675
Atmosphere wise, I think it's the best.
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Is the LN over?
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>>144452697
Possibly in another mission 2.
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>>144452765
We get another Short Story volume
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>>144452765
I believe volume 13 is the last one, though I recall someone mentioning side-stories being written too, but I could be wrong about that.

>>144452741
Right? I feel like too many LN artists don't really have a good sense on body language. But the illustrations in this series really do a great job of conveying things.

I'm not quite sure how to describe it but somehow just simple things like Mari holding onto her hat a certain way, or the way popcorn man is casually holding his weapon really does give off a dramatic or epic nature to it.

Also there's just a lot of effort put into the pictures in general. I find that a good number of series tend to put most of the work in only the colour illustrations, while the actual images in the novels are somewhat lacking.
>>
>>144452765
The main story is over. There will another volume consisting of side stories, however (of which take place after the main story's conclusion).
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>>144453077
No, this is a good series that deserves more recognition in Japan and it's a shame that the anime completely ruined any chances of it picking up in sales.
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>>144453261
It's certainly at the highest tier of battle harems.
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>>144453261
It's surprising it got to 13 volumes considering lack of kissing, eroticism and other in-your-face fanservice you can find in everything else.
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>>144453261
Feels like an RPG with how much moving around they do.
>>
>>144453551
Hohum, could be a urban JRPG like 7th Dragon 2020.
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>>144453425
I believe in the afterwards the author was even talking about how he was surprised the publisher even let him write this many volumes. I guess they just really liked the series itself despite it not really being the best seller.

Honestly I'm glad we managed to get this many, and actually (from what I can tell) get a decent conclusion. Can't say that for many series, but I'm still a tad sad at the lack of recognition.
>>
>>144453425
The author said writing romance isn't really his thing. Also, he mentioned that the series was originally suppose to end on the tenth volume, but work for the anime was longer than expected and was told to write more.
>>
>>144453769
At least we actually have a translation. That's one silver lining.
>>
>>144444744
>sword>harem
Then again, comparing one's dedicated weapon(partner) against an assortment of girls is unfair.
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>>144453077
I also like how soft everything looked. Lapis was honestly made for this artstyle.
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>>144453685
Totally, change the dragons into Magicians/Gods and you get Antimagic, moreso if you played the DS game that gave a whole lot more lore.
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>>144454786
It would work well as everything, from an RTS to a MOBA.
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>>144455026
Or a fighting game
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>>144455128
MGR:R type spectacle fighter never.
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>>144455026
>>144455128
>>144455381
VR Helmet + soumatou (bullet time) + cutting bullets in mid-air!
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Why is she crying?
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>>144455888
Because you didn't post her in color.
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>>144456197
Why is she crying in color?
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>>144456976
She might be in color, but her tears are transparent.
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>>144457269
That's deep
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>>144457269
Her tears might be transparent, but her heart is obscure.
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>>144415724
>>144415845
I WANT TO CUM INSIDE KISEKI

Can't believe I almost missed an Antimagic thread
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>>144458775
You're getting old. That aside, it's slowly dying, unless some fresh discussions appear.
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>>144458852
Unless more spoilers drop, guess not.
But I assume everyone is reading Volume 12 or rereading the series.
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>>144458775
She is a demon and a heretic, not your waifu.
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>>144460635
I really hate how they colored the anime. It doesn't even give the same tone.
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>>144461133
It seemed too much like a cartoon.
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>>144461280
Yeah. Everything was so bright and light, and the lines were drawn so thin. It's pointless to complain about it, but it still bothers me, y'know?
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I'll see you all when more chapters come out
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What would you do if you were in pro golfer's position?
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hope it is not open end but harem end
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>>144452172
>tall girl with flat chest
Absolute bes- wait was she always that tall?
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>>144465812
Usage and Lapis are just really fucking short
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>>144465812
It makes her look way taller than she's suppose to be. For the record, Mari is 158cm, Usagi is 145cm and Lapis 135cm.
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>>144466350
>>144466500
She still look tall in that screenshot though, look at the WC sign.
Then again, this made me realize how good adult Mari is. Tall + flat = best.
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>>144466790
She's still short compared to the other three in the platoon
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>>144397312
For despair!
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>>144415724
Anon, that's a heretic not your waifu.
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>>144423812
Because he believes in his LAW.
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>>144464149
Hunt some witches and kill them. What else, gotta kill those heretics man!
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>>144468709
Good night, sweet Anti-Magic thread.
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>>144470342
See you next chapter.
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Farewell until next time, anons.
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>>144427937
Muh
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>>144427937
I have to wonder whose viewpoint this is in.
Does Kurogane lead the Inquisition?
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So nobody wins, right?
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>>144471236
>Does Kurogane lead the Inquisition?
That's what I'm assuming.
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>>144403703
Context of picture please?
I'm kind of interested.
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>>144471639
Takeru's Stand is worried about him because he's a guy who don't knows your own limits.
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>>144471639
Loli in picture is the human form of a legendary sword whose strongest ability has the potential to slay gods but to use it, its soul and its wielder's soul has to fuse into a single entity and she doesn't exactly want that but to continue using her abilities to face an ever growing list of tough enemies requires them to.
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>It's not another generic harem
>The interactions are fun and comfy
>The adaptation is bad, just read the LN
>It's just that the translation is shit
Every time
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>>144459761
She will always be my cute waifu.
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