ITT: Manga that got axed and/or had inconclusive FUCK YOU endings

The worst about it is that it wasn't even axed if I remember right, author got just fed up.

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So disappointed by the ending, there was so much shit that was left unexplained ...

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>>144354278
I'm still sad.

Itoshi no Karin.

recently the manga about a teenage guy and girl that solve mysteries revolving the island they live in

I think kid is able to predict near death and death

It was interesting until the final chapter left in a huge cliffhanger with the bad kids talking to head honcho guy warning the head honcho about the teenage detectives

The final page was the author apologizing to the readers because he has a illness and won't be returning for a while , nearly two or so years pass and he passed away without ever giving the readers a single update

To this day I don't know if he had cancer but the manga was good and I'm severely disappointed we will never get a at least rushed ending

>>144358654
Shindere Shoujo to Kodoku na Shinigami, was it?

>>144354278
Shinigami sama to 4 nin no kanojo and shindere shoujo to kodoku na shinigami. Fuck you too, OP.

Cage of Eden. That's the one that comes to mind.

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It's Korean, but damn what a shitty ending. The first 2 or 3 volumes were a pretty cool Hellsing ripoff, and then suddenly they throw away the entire plot up until that point and it veers off into propaganda about Japanese war crimes against Koreans, complete with mini history lesson epilogue encouraging readers to "uncover the truth" and absolutely nothing from the first half gets resolved or explained.

>>144354278
I'm still fucking mad for that one, OP, thanks for reminding me.

>>144358921
Yeah

>>144358480
>Itoshi no Karin.

Triggered

>>144359494
That reminds me of Veritas which ended completely out of no where. The author blamed the internet and now works in an office somewhere.

>>144358480
10/10 girl, 7/10 series, 4/10 MC.

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>>144354278

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At least the author was able to not take themselves too seriously about the end.

Also, seconding on everyone's opinions about OP's choice.

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Ratman was ahead of its time.
Had it been released now in the age of capeshit it wouldn't have gotten axed.

>>144359952
One of the few times a porn artist has made me cry.

>>144359959
Underrated series

>>144360016
I don't think you can call a monthly that lasts something like five years axed.

>>144359791
Pretty sure he's doing Action Idols. Although, that's been on hiatus for like half a year now.

>>144360016
Didn't it just end? I'm pretty sure it wasn't axed

>>144359959
Source? Google gives me nothing.

>>144361514
Boku ni Koisuru Mechanical. It's a fun read, but only 14 chapters long.

>>144360016
I would agree with >>144360640 and >>144361356 .

There is a difference between "axed" and "ending in a way that appears unsatisfactory."

>>144358376
Still mad.
I'll never not get mad at this, fuck.

>>144354278
Yeah, that was bullshit.

>>144358654
Oh shit, is that what happened? I liked that manga.

>>144360016
>>144360016
THIS

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>>144354278
Sun Ken Rock. It was actually entertaining until the last few chapters where absolute bullshit character assassination happened out of nowhere. And that bullshit "ending" just made it worse. It felt the author let something in his personal life affect his work.

>>144354278
Did anyone ever figure out what the solution was?

>>144362074
He literally said in his extra for the last volume that he was writing a revenge story for 24 Volumes and changed it for the last because some vietnamese cuck wrote him a letter after the paris incident, telling him that he is grateful for the anti-discrimination subplot in Sun Ken Rock. He was so touched that he threw all his ideas out for the actual end.

>>144358480
The ending was fine and conclusive, wasn't it? It was the middle that dropped the ball.

>>144362344
The end was literally see you in 5 years.

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Final chapter even had a preview for the next storyarc.

Also, Mx0.

>>144362287
Well that's bullshit. Isn't that why editors exist? He spent 140+ chapters building up the relationship between Ken and Yumin only for her to fucking shoot him right when he was about to win the final battle.

On top of that she not only gets away with it, He hands her control over everything he owns and fucks off somewhere

>>144362994
>Shina_Dark

Who remember those anime PVs from SHAFT and thought we were getting an anime adaptation?

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Might as well post the legendary of all fuck you endings

>>144363029
Yes, that's the point. Instead of a Revenge Story he changed it into one about forgiveness.

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>>144364908
>not posting flowers
I was on with the actual ending we eventually got. But SK Flowers got a raw deal. It ended when the only interesting character showed up.

>>144366120
Fuck Flowers, it was shit anyways and it didn't really get any sort of ending it just sot of stopped and Takei decided to not continue it(good thing because he literally shat on the OG Shaman King with this garbage, not to mention the atrocious pacing)

Flowers "ending" was a good thing
OG Shaman King Princess Hao ending 12 years ago was bullshit on the other hand

>>144365294
Fucking informed my local authority over this.

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>>144354278
SOON

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>>144359913
>4/10 MC
Yes, but he had his moments

>>144366296
The actual ending to shaman king shat on the series. It's incredulous cynical where even though they talked Hao off of his ledge, he is still right about humans. and the next shaman fight will probably have significantly less people because the idea of spiritualism in modern society is dying off. Very few people actually come to a satisfactory conclusion to their story lines. With flowers even though it started off really bad and revise a lot of things that didn't need to be touched it was getting better.

>>144362079
There was not!
Was just an excuse by the author.
>>144362994
Still so fucking mad!
Right after they implied that his wife is still alive and actually a holy knight/hero out to kill him.
We finally reached the point of background story and main plotline being revealed.

>>144360016
Ratman was okay, but the final villain was garbage. Plus, it was clear that the author was at least thinking about wrapping everything up when he was told to rush the ending.

It could have been better, but I didn't feel like Ratman suffered too badly from "sudden ending" syndrome.

>>144367047
Wrong, wrong and wrong
You completely missed the damn point of the series just like a plebeian speedreader

He's not "right" about the humans, he's way too one-sided because he had a lot of their negative thoughts float into him against his will because of the Reishi which skewered his view on humanity in a major way and he couldn't see the good points

This is where Yoh differs from Hao, he never had the Reishi so even though he didn't like humans he did see good points about them(eventually meeting Manta helped that too)

Now Flowers really shat on the series
>The kids are cunts
>Hana is an asshole
>Alumni is a failure of an Anna and really annoying
>Men is creepy
>Yoh and Anna killed by a fucking Helicopter
>Jeanne killed by some bitch somehow
>Horohoro is a neet
>Lyserg nowhere near to be found
>Redseb and Seyram are evil for some reason
>G8
>Tamao is now a lame Anna clone but tries so hard to be edgy as fuck it's insufferable
>Ryu is a bum instead of seeking his best place with this buddies
>Chocolove is still in jail
>Ren is nowhere to be fucking found while his wife gets murdered
>Jews from Yahabe have literal asspull powers with no explanation
>New Asakura branch out of fucking nowhere
>Yohane's sister is a literal shitty rehash of Tao Jun
I could go on and on

Only good thing was Death Zero
And it's a joke how Hao was a better mother to Hana than fucking Tamao was
And another fucking thing, why wasn't Hana left with Yoh's grandpa at Izumo? Why did they drop him off at useless Tamao?
If they had dropped him at Yoh's Grandpa Hana might have been more mature by the start of the series

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Psyren is one I'm still upset about. It had a lot of really cool ideas and excellent characters. It's just a damn thing it wasn't popular enough and the author had to rush everything.

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Could have negro boxing Berserk in the wild west fighting KKK apostles but no apparently.

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>>144356382
He's dead anon

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>>144354278
We lost this for Nisekoi. It was actually interesting with a nice little romance story without the bullshit and cock teasing.

>>144368329
>We lost this for Nisekoi.
Worth the trade
Chitge > Double Arts

>>144368329
I will never understand all the outrage over this. It was nothing worth crying over.

>>144368677
*Chitoge

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>>144368329
It was axed, but at least it had a cute open ended ending. Also who knows, now that Nisekoi is ending the author might come back to this.

>>144367644
Calling me a speed reader when you missed what I said about cynicism and Hao.

One of Hao's biggest points is that humans and shamans are kind of incompatible and he's kind of right. Not because he can read minds, but because society had become increasingly secular. Shamanism is dying far faster than it did previously because the world doesn't care for it anymore. Even the humans who found out about the SF just sent an army to try and kill off the remaining contestants and try and take the GS for themselves.

Yoh and Hao are two sides of the same coin, but neither of them is objectively right and the series goes great lengths to show that. Yoh is just more agreeable because he'a not genocidal.

Aside from that I agree about flowers except for a few characters. Chocolove's story is about forgiving himself and redemption. So him being in prison is fine because he's serving time for his crimes. Lyserg being Mia is fine because he's a detective doing his job. Horo Horo is a sticking point because it hilight my problem with the the OG ending. He get's the most back story charactization of the whole cast and it amounts to nothing in the end. Same with Ryu, he just gave up on his dream to be an actual father figure for Hana.

But like I said, death zero was a turning point because he's actually interesting so we both can agree on that.

>>144368937
>One of Hao's biggest points is that humans and shamans are kind of incompatible and he's kind of right.
A point which pretty much everyone in the series made
The problem was that Hao's "solution" to kill humanity was absolute bullshit

Hao went the wrong path when he couldn't get over his desire for revenge
As Ohachiyo says to him at the end of Mappa Douji, "In the end you're nothing but a human"(well that's not the actual quote it's actually much longer but I just simplified it)

You could argue that Hao would be similar to how Yoh is had he never went the wrong path

I don't see how it's cynical, if anything the ending showed that Hao's soul was finally somewhat at ease thanks to Yoh

>>144369542
>I don't see how it's cynical
The cynical part is how even though Hao's philosophy was proven wrong. He revived everyone to live in a world where some of the cast are unable to fulfill their dreams. They even hilight that in the last chapter.

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>>144367644
>Jeanne killed by some bitch somehow
I'm still mad.

>>144368884
yeah, and maybe kubo will come back to Zombie Powder...

>>144370070
Well I think that's the lesson in Shaman King
Sometimes you don't get what you want in life
It's the bittersweet truth that fits a bittersweet manga like Shaman King

But it also means that you don't need to stop trying(like Yoh who promised Hao he would make the world a better place)

I think people tend to misinterpret the message of the series because it's not really that straightforward

Hao's major problem was that he cared too much about the world that surrounded him to the point where he forgot about himself(and then Yoh saved his soul)
After that ending there was no way Hao ever considered annihiliating the human race ever again but he made Yoh promise to him that he would make the world a better place(just to test his trust)...after all when Yoh died in Flowers he didn't destroy the human race

Instead, what bothers me in Flowers is that for example in Horohoro's case he's not even trying...he should be at the mountains trying to raise those Fuki Fields

Stuff like Yoh/Anna getting killed by a Helicopter is straight bullshit tho and is cheap shock at best

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Still salty at how decent this manga actually was considered that I always dislike Bleach.

>>144370829
And ruin it?
No thanks

>>144370306
She shouldn't have given Shamash to her stupid son

Then again that Jew Bitch and their Jew powers...what the fuck
They never made any sense

>>144359952
Still mad

>>144370306
Also I wanted to see Milf Jeanne dammit
FUCK YOU TAKEI

>>144367644
>Yoh and Anna killed by a fucking Helicopter
>Jeanne killed by some bitch somehow
>Horohoro is a neet
>Ryu is a bum instead of seeking his best place with this buddies
>Chocolove is still in jail
>Ren is nowhere to be fucking found while his wife gets murdered
What the actual fuck? What is author thinking?The old casts doesn't deserve those at all.
Thank god, I only read the first chapter of flower.

>>144371305
I honestly don't know what he was thinking
Shaman King didn't need a sequel in the first place

>>144371523
It was because Shueisha were starting up a new Jump branded Magazine and needed a big series to drum up interest/sales to start it off. They went and asked Takei to do a continuation of Shaman King for it and Takei isn't exactly going to turn down work. It's ironic considering they cancelled Shaman King in Jump and yet they asked for a sequel series to it for their new magazine's #1 manga.

Also that magazine was shitcanned which is why flowers unceremoniously stopped getting updates.

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>Nice premise
>Seinen
>Good fap

>Got axe'd
Still mad

>>144372084
I'd completely forgotten about that. Now I want to reread it but I know it'll just make me mad.

>>144358480

FUCKKKKK. I will never forgive /a/ for recommending this and then seeing the shit it fell into.

Negima. Always Negima. The ending to Negima was worse than all the genocides, Holocausts, rapes, and everything combined.

>>144371982
I still don't understand why they thought a that was a good flagship for Jump Kai, anyway. It was a seinen magazine with a bunch of mysteries and atmospheric SoL and sci-fi stuff, and they decided that the best way to drum up interest was with a sequel to a cancelled battle shounen.

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>>144367659
This. I think another ten chapters would have done wonders for its conclusion.

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I WILL NEVER FORGIVE THEM

>>144372084
>seinen
Shounen.

NEET Princess Terrass

>>144373494
>Shounen
Champion Red is a seinen magazine. The shonen ones are Monthly and Bessatsu Champion.

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>>144359096
This. Something about it was so enjoyable and I understand that he had to wrap it up because it got axed but fuck me it was dumb.

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why CLAMP

>>144373952
Fucking clamp

>>144373871
It changed demographics, it was shounen when Lives was running.

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>>144354278
I'm still mad that the author waa force to change the premise.

>>144374540
This

>>144367659
this

>>144365294
still mad

>>144374540
Wait what?

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>tfw some of these were in your backlog

Also finished this recently. It was okay for the ecchi parts.

>>144354278
Stealth Symphony. The rushed ending was actually a wild ride. Very obviously axed though.

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In dire need of a third season with anime original ending.

>>144359959
>Congratulations!
That's a pretty cute way to handle the axe.

>>144374540
Going off the first couple chapters I don't think the gritty setting he was writing was going to be that enjoyable anyways.

>>144375747
My favorite way to handle the axe was Mission School, where the mangaka basically just gives up and spends the last volume on the characters finding out the manga was being cancelled and trying to save their world by doing random shit to drive up appeal and talking about all the other things he'd done to try to avoid cancellation before. By far the best part of a mediocre series.

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Soil. Not dead in actuality, but no scans in three years.

Its hurts.

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>>144375669
I pretend that the tentacle space penis didn't shit out a kid and that he actually got Kobayashi pregnant.
I support this belief with the fact that he said that they'll "have to apologize to mom later" and asked his daughter to come with him when he does, while Tsumugi was standing right there next to them.

>>144377370
I want a doujin where the captain basically clones Tanikaze and hand them out to the trap and penis alien
>you get a Tanikaze
>she gets a Tanikaze
>I get Tanikaze too, except I'm the captain so I'm gonna have a harem of Tanikaze to gang bang me for MANY NIGHTS

>>144377334
One of my favorites but no scans for three years? Has it really been that long?

>>144367644
>>144371305
>>144371523
>tfw you are the only person who liked flowers
I really wanted to see how Hana would grow and change

>>144377687

Just about. No chapters since August, 2013.

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If we're talking incomplete series...

>>144377967
Fuck this was actually good. Didn't the brothers have a falling out?

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>>144354278
I'm STILL FUCKING MAD about this manga.

wasn't Togari axed?

>>144368709
People miss it because it was better than Nisekoi.

>>144365294
fuck you

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>>144354278
This one hurts the most. It was looking fantastic, and then he fucking dropped it in favor of bikes. Hell, I was one of the few people who liked Noririn on its own, but it was not at all worth it.

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>find a series that seems to peak your interest
>follow it weekly/monthly for years to where you look forward to it the most
>practically dedicating your life to the series
>it gets a shit end from an ass load of common Japanese reasons
>a possibility of you having lost up to 10+ years of your life just for following said series
>the cycle repeats itself with you all over again with a new series
Why? Why do we keep doing this to ourselfs?

>>144378015
I so want more Black Lagoon!

>>144356521
But that one had a happy ending.

>>144380876
This will be Bleachfags in a few weeks

>>144378015
We're supposedly getting a new volume soon. The author had some issues with his publisher and refused to serialize any chapters in the magazine.

Let's see
>Kaze no Stigma
Really liked it but author died
>Mx0
I remember reading it all in one sitting and hoping there was a sequel under a different name but nope
>Iris zero
I think I saw a thread about it coming back up but didn't go in it, the author is always sick though so who knows how long it'll stay around
>HOTD
That faggot author never finishes shit and had a perfect excuse to not finish this
>The legend of Maian
That gook fag either never finishes shit or gives crappy endings. That or they stopped being translated
>Cage of Eden
That was a big fuck you, and he's using his old characters in Deathtopia which feels like a fuck you as well instead of a throwback to CoE.
>HSDK
I'm not sure if it got axed or not but that ending felt shit with just a picture hinting at Kenichi ending up with Miu
>Air Gear
Ending just felt horrible but that new chapter was a bit better, has there been anymore news with that?
>Reborn
Literally felt like everything that happened didn't matter at all
>Kurogane
I wish it went on more before the axe
>Asu no Yoichi
Wish it wasn't some crappy open ended shit
There's more but I can't remember their names right now.

Has Koisome Momiji been mentioned here yet?

>>144385156
>Iris Zero
It's coming back in Septemeber

>>144358376
Nisekoi is his revenge. This is what you get for not buying Double Arts Onederafags

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He said he'd get back to it once he finished Last Order, but LO was originally just supposed to be an extended retconned ending that lasted forever and now has a sequel series of its' own, and I don't know that he would be allowed or would even want to go back to it 16+ years later, so I think it's safe to assume it's dead.

>>144362994
My anger still smolders to this day.

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This was pretty good and got cancelled.
Teppu's ending sucked too.

>>144385810
>September
Try a week from today, the issue that says September comes out in July.

>>144378883
at least he got to end it in the same way this guy did >>144359959

>>144354278
Author said in his blog/twitter that he had written himself into a corner.

>>144371982
>They went and asked Takei to do a continuation of Shaman King
Probably not exactly what happened
Takei had teased a sort of continuation back in the day with Funbari no Uta to begin with

I think the good sales of the Kanzenban restored Shueisha's faith on the property(Flowers eventually went on to become a top seller in it's respective magazine too)

The sequel was still a mistake though...particularly the way Takei executed it

>Also that magazine was shitcanned which is why flowers unceremoniously stopped getting updates.
Other series from that magazine moved on to other magazines so you're wrong, Takei simply took that opportunity to stop the series(which was a good thing imo because it was a trainwreck)

>>144377784
>I really wanted to see how Hana would grow and change
I think the last part with Death Zero and Hana looking to finally mature(I swear Hao is literally a better parent to him that shitty Tamao) was the best part and the part that most fans liked

But he shat on the old series so much and the pacing was so goddamn bad for a monthly series that the journey there wasn't worth it...I mean ffs it took literally 3 years for the damn shit to get a bit interesting

I'd be down for a redo of Flowers if he made it good this time around but I doubt that would be case

Can't an artist just continue their manga in another magazine? Or publish it as a webmanga if magazines don't want it? Or sell it on some doujin convetion?

>>144358376
Are they Gon and Kilua?

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The fuck was this?

>>144358376
that hair is fucking stupid

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>>144359952
>Didn't live long enough for doujins

>>144387866
>>144385810
Is it coming back for good? It was probably my most favorite manga when it was getting updates.

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>Has a interesting premise that breaks away from the usual generic shit
>Axed
>Generic shit pumped out that you've read a million times
>Goes on to make a ridiculous amount of volumes

Every fucking time.

>>144387583
This shit was great, but I admit the tournament arc got really boring the longer it got.

>>144388720
>Can't an artist just continue their manga in another magazine?
The magazine has the rights to the series usually so it's a bit complicated

>>144388861
Reminds me of the guy from Musashi:Samurai Legend

>Itazura na Kiss
Author died. At least the anime got the ending

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>>144389058
>Generic shit
>Goes on to make a ridiculous amount of volumes
Just wake me up from this nightmare.

>>144389058
More like
>Has a interesting premise that breaks away from the usual generic shit
>Turns into generic shit or the pacing gets so goddamn bad to the point it become a slog
>Gets canceled

>>144389586
When will the rest of the chapters be scanlated dammit?(and before you say there's an official version, I don't have money because neet)
I loved what I read, Naoki is a godtier asshole character

>>144354278
>ends the whodunnit with "figure it the fuck out yourself"
I was a little upset at the time, but thinking about it now makes me laugh

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Went off the rails at the end, but before that was a pretty enjoyable yokai story in a college setting.

>>144362994
Just when Shina Dark was getting extremely good, it got canned.

there is no god...

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>>144370848
Came here to post this. Fuck bleach

>>144373601
mangaka is fucking lazy piece of shit now. I think nobody care for his manga anymore but nostalgia fags.

>>144374540
e-explain please anon-kun

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>>144354278

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>>144365294
oh well at least the author make a new series now.

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It seems interesting. I don't know it got axed.

>>144390126
Looks like KoF the manga

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Still waiting for the sequel we were promised.

>>144389728
wow its been a while

the author's new work is good too sadly no one is translating it

>>144387866
Is there a source for that? I believe you but I'd also like to see where you got the information from. P-pls anon

>>144388492
> Other series from that magazine moved on to other magazines so you're wrong
Not him, but that's probably a case-by-case thing, and it's possible (though we obviously don't know for sure) that Shueisha's other magazines just didn't want it. I mean, clearly not every single manga from Kai was going to get continued somewhere else.

>>144389523
Man I hope ib will get a continuation in the future somehow.

>>144388720
In WSJ you need to get to at least 100 chapters before you can move magazines. Guess why Mx0 ended at 99.

>>144390689
>and it's possible (though we obviously don't know for sure) that Shueisha's other magazines just didn't want it.
That's impossible, Flowers was the best selling title in the Magazine

>>144391210
I hope not, it's best forgotten

>>144391541
>Flowers was the best selling title in the Magazine
Yes, but it was also basically a battle shounen. The things that got continued were mostly unusual stuff (Musume no Iede, 87 Clockers, Koshoku Robot, etc.) that probably just caught an editor's eye by being different, and some of them got picked up by shoujo/josei magazines and even other publishers due to circumstances. Whereas Flowers, even aside from being a mess, didn't really have much to differentiate it from other fighting series. If someone had picked something like that up, it would have been primarily for sales, and while it was the best-seller in Kai (largely, I assume, because it was a mainstream-type series in a very eclectic/niche magazine that was clearly not planned around sales in the first place), that's not really enough when shit like WSJ and WYJ that might have taken it are already full of higher-selling battle shounen (and UJ already had/has Jumbor to fill their shitty-Takei-sequel quota).

>>144391636
>WYJ
>battle shounen
Fucked that up, but whatever. Mainstream fighting series.

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Still mad about the """Hiatus"""

>>144391636
>Yes, but it was also basically a battle shounen.
Literally doesn't matter at all
Takei was the one who decided to discontinue it in the end

>>144391836
Caught up to the LN, there's not much you can do about that.

>>144388619
>I think the last part with Death Zero and Hana looking to finally mature(I swear Hao is literally a better parent to him that shitty Tamao) was the best part and the part that most fans liked
Part of what made Death Zero good was the fact that Flowers didn't have many interesting shaman/spirit dynamics. All I can remember is the illuminati plus and chuuni swordsman and the rest are expressionless oversouls or oni. Amidamaru wasn't given the same dynamic he had with Yoh and Death Zero was looking like the stern spirit that would force Hana to learn some self control since both of them are prone to fits of rage.

>I'd be down for a redo of Flowers if he made it good this time around but I doubt that would be case
Same. Conceptually I like some of what flowers was doing but it would have to be a major overhaul since stuff like the G8 just really fuck with the setting.

>>144391846
Wait, do you actually have a source on that? Because if you do, then I'm obviously wrong and there's no need to waffle around citing its sales and shit for circumstantial evidence. If you don't, then yes, that does matter for the relevance of your circumstantial evidence, and I already explained why.

>that feel when literally everything you read dies a horrible bland death, goes into hiatus hell or quickly goes to shit after a certain point.
i fucking hate everything, also i will never see a continuation of beet the vandel buster.

>>144392049
>i will never see a continuation of beet the vandel buster.
It started back up this year anon. After 7 years we're back on track.

>>144389995
Pic is 'Goblin Slayer', I can't speak for the WN/LN, but the manga's first two chapters are grimdark/edgy but going by spoilers it gets more light hearted later on.

>>144389995
Nips self-inserted as the Novice group and got killed off and or raped. It pissed them off to no end that the author was force to change how he wrote his own book

>>144391976
It'd have to have some major changes for me to like it

Just retcon all the shit he did to the old cast
>No Yoh/Anna getting killed by Helicopter
>No Jeanne getting killed
>Horohoro is not a neet and if possible give him in a arc where he makes those Fuki Fields and Hao rewards him by bringing back Damuko to life(and then afterwards have Horohoro show up when Hana and co. are in danger to save them and possibly mentor them same way Mikihisa did with him,Ren and Chocolove)
>Retcon edgy Anna clone Tamao
>make Alumni more likeable/less violent and make her a bit more original
>make Men less creepy and more tolerable
>make Hana less of a cunt, like I get he's supposed to be a brat but tone it down a bit(e.g have him be nice to Amidamaru once in a while dammit)
>Have Lyserg play a role where he's sort of a detective and he detects that Hana's life is in danger
>Have Chocolove be released from Jail earlier than expected because of his good conduct
>Have a bit of focus on Faust, what happened to him(was he even in Flowers? I can't remember) because I remember him saying he would work on Anna's inn but we never got any closure to that
>Have Ryu help train Hana or something instead of just being a bum doing nothing
>Come up with more original characters to replace old ones instead of just "Here's a fat version of Ryu lmaooooooo"
etc.

Goddammit, I'm a better writer than Takei is

>>144389995
LN didn't start off so dark

it was pretty light but kept it realistic in terms of how a goblin/orc party would fuck you up

>>144391983
It was the best sold series in the magazine, there's my proof

He also ended Ultimo too

I'm guessing he did it because he needed to decrease his load and wanted to work on Nekogahara

>>144392602
My biggest problems are with the overall cosmology of Flowers. I got the impression that once your term as Shaman King is over you dissolve into the great spirit. Instead you apparently keep your retinue and just fuck off to your own partition while the new guy takes over. Which would be cool until you realize that somehow they still can effect things in the world and also have the power to impeach the newest king. The Flowers of Maize is also just a ridiculous excuse to have another shaman fight when all you need to do is have people targetting Hana because of his connection to Hao in the first place.

I don't mind the old cast doing their own things and stepping aside to allow Hana to have his own story. And I think characters like Lyserg and Chocolove are fine as they are written. Horo Horo should have just become a farmer living in the country working towards his dream. Damuko staying dead is fine by me but I was never happy with the whole "only takes her true form once" rule. But it all falls in line with the bittersweet tone of Shaman King so that's just personal preference. Faust is never actually shown in flowers from what I remember but he did promise to help the inn out. It looks like he just chose to stay dead with Eliza though so maybe something changed, it just needs to be explained.

Things I liked in flowers:
>Seeing the previous shaman king's influence on the world
>Death Zero

Biggest changes I would make are
>Remove FoM tournament,
- Just have the Illuminati come after Hana and his family because they still have some power in the world and they resent Hao for threatening the paradigm they have held for 500 years.
>Remove G8
- Previous kings should be represented by the factions they left behind. Whether it be organizations like the Illuminati or bloodlines in the case of older kings.
>Introduce Death Zero earlier
- Hana needs his own spirit guardian so do that sooner than later. Amidamaru is too passive for that role anymore.

>>144354278
Anything by Yasuhiro Kano. Guy is cursed.

>>144392626
>It was the best sold series in the magazine, there's my proof
I already fucking addressed this. Sales are not everything.

>He also ended Ultimo too
Ultimo ended a year later, and Jumbor is still going. There's no reason to think he was specifically ending all his series to free up space.

>>144392991
But he finished it as a doujin. Actually, Takano's fucking great about not abandoning his shit. Blood Alone was originally a set of doujinshi in like 2002, and then he got it published years later, and then it got canceled so he found a new publisher, and then they canceled it too so he finished it as a doujin again. And he also managed to get that Cronos Haze reboot running like twelve years after the original got cancelled.

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What about manga that got axed but had good endings? This is pretty much the only one I can think of.

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I just hope the author will come back some day and give it a proper ending instead of the clusterfuck we got.

>>144393073
He's not cursed, he's just mediocre. He's gotten way more chances than he actually deserves.

>>144393131
Sales are important no matter the way you look at it

Maybe he just got tired of working on it, and maybe he realized just how much he fucked up

>>144392961
Well I wasn't thinking of making Lyserg, Chocolove, Horohoro main characters

I was just thinking of having them as side-characters that show up once in a while to assist Hana

How's this? We could have Damuko just go back to her human form permanently and then leave for heaven while having an emotional farewell scene with Horohoro and then Horohoro moving on and finding another spirit...that would fall in line with Shaman King

But that would remove all the plot besides the other Asakura branch(even though I don't like fucking G8 and I was very confused with the whole FoM thing)
Also the whole Yahabe/Jews thing was very confusing

>Remove Amidamaru
Fuck no
Keep him and do a double-spirit medium with him and Sakurai same way Men does with Shamash and Bason

>>144392991
>>144393195
It has ended? How far is the translations to the ending?

>>144393423
>I was just thinking of having them as side-characters that show up once in a while to assist Hana
One thing that's tricky for me is having old characters show up in a sequel series. You need to balance how much of a role they will have. I'm fine with them not being in flowers to any real degree because I was interested in seeing a different perspective on things. Kind of like how the adults in SK left things to their kids, the new problems in the world should be left to the next generation. Mentor roles are fine but you don't need to have every character come back just for nostalgia's sake.

>>Remove Amidamaru
Not what I said. But Amidamaru is really forgettable in Flowers because he's lost a lot of the stern nature he had. He's too subservient to Hana and it throws their dynamic off. He became closer to early Bason. Hana needs someone who will help him reign in his outbursts and pairing him off with Japanese red baron was a step in the right direction.

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I don't think it's been cancelled, but what the fuck happened to Joshi Shougakusei Hajimemashita?

>>144384023
It ended way too soon

>>144393461
We're almost done with the last volume of the official publication, and then there's one self-published volume and I think he's still planning to publish more of it that way. I don't speak nip, though, so I'm not entirely clear.

>>144356382
Great ending which brought the story to its end, both litteraly and metaphorically.

The giant idiot is both the parody of a shounen protagonist and a metaphora for the author's attempt at ending his story. Which, of course, the main character claws against and ultimately destroys.

While the last fight allows him to bring forward everything he learned as a fighter, it is disrupted by a convenient plot device, a litteral "dynamiting of the story", brought to the reader by a mad storyteller.

Nonetheless, the main character ultimate banter is a rejection of any transcendance and of any meta-discourse on the media itself.

tl;dr Shamo is a master piece, and it's ending is a literary lesson.

>>144393620
Oh, that is okay than. I can understand why it was cancelled desu, with how things went in this last volume.

>>144393734
I thought the ending all right, not spectacular but rather uplifting.

>>144393578
I agree
I'm thinking of them in a more Silva-role or something
Horohoro and/or Chocolove could do that(they could also show up to take care of some small fries leaving Hana and co. to take on the big guys), while Lyserg would be more off-hands and instead play the detective and inform Yohmei, Tamao etc. when he finds something suspicious/dangerous
The Hanagumi Waitresses could be ordered Tamao to help in fights or something too

I just don't think completely neglecting the old character is a right thing to do and I think you can reinvent them in a good way if you do it right


I get what you mean, but they could have a sort of mini-arc addressing that
The "early Bason" comparison makes sense since Amidamaru laments Hana being so sad and mad all the time and he feels like he's not able to help him

>>144366706
Bleach was like canceled a year ago, Kubo got an ultimatum to just fucking end it already and was forced into starting the final arc.

>>144393726
I liked the fight. I'm a little lost on the lore, but I think that's as much to do with the poor quality and speed of translations (I can barely remember everyone's name after like three months without a chapter, and then they start changing their romanizations and shit to boot) as it does with the actual manga.

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Ending was rushed as fuck

>>144394340
Yeah, the monthly wait for each chapter certainly doesn't help with the lore aspect.

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nobody post this yet?
the most rushed ending ive ever read

MonsterXMonster. I guess having a shitty NEET protag for so long got under elevens' skin.

>>144394278
>was forced into starting the final arc.
He started the final arc 4 years ago

>>144394513
Why their face all looks same?

>>144392991
No wonder it was cancelled, people read it for loli and then here motherfuckers have a year-long fighting-story arc about Merlin'n'shit nobody cares about. Or some boring criminal case with no lolis.

>>144389728
>Genki Spider Girl
There is no justice in this world if series like this get canned.

>>144394105
Given how short Flowers is. I think trying to give each core member of OG Shaman King decent screen time would take too much away from a new cast. I like the idea of mini-arcs dedicated to these characters and Takei had already done Zero (which gave backstory to Sati of all people) but I would want that stuff as side content.

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>>144395095
Forgot my pic, damn this series is a decent read.

>>144394513
I'm about to pick this up.

You're making me worried.

>>144395330
There's nothing to worry about. Just drill a hole in your skull and enjoy.

>>144394410
yeah, like everyone got a panel, final battle is like 2 guys started fighting the cut to the next scene...
at least we got the message and boy mc never got a peaceful like with eh... what's her name again sanchi??

>>144394513
fuck off it the one and only ending
I know from beginning that there is no salvation for him, things can only tumbling down

>>144394513
it wasn't that bad. Honest question, but how did you expect it would end?

>>144394820
it's got to do with the protagonist going absolutely nuts at the end. Not that during the whole manga he was normal to begin with, but he reaches new levels of insanity by the time you reach the latter half of the fifteenth volume.

>>144395095
Well it all depends on the pacing
Somebody skilled enough can pull it off, but Takei was literally writing Flowers as if it was a Weekly Manga...he was completely clueless to how a monthly manga should be paced

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>>144393235
This.
The last chapter is basically Aka being upset because ib got cancelled and decided to fooling around by cockblocking Sera and Kuro moment

>>144362994
Ah this, fuck... I didn't even believe it's ended until around 2-3 years after.

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Sure, dying is a valid reason to not continue it but it's still too bad.

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>>144365294
Fuck this

>>144393131
>Ultimo ended a year later, and Jumbor is still going
Ultimo only ended a year later because the magazine it was in was published infrequently, and was also canceled and he had to wait for its replacement to start. Jumbor is just on indefinite hiatus now.

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>>144390609
Official next issue preview for the magazine.

>>144393213
The ending for that actually goes on for a few more pages in the volume release.

>>144368677
>Shitoge<actual shit

>>144391228
>In WSJ you need to get to at least 100 chapters before you can move magazines. Guess why Mx0 ended at 99.
Why is Jump so scummy?

>>144402901
He's making that up, you realise that, right?

>>144401431
>Taboo Tattoo
Holy shit, I always think "Saber" whenever I see her

FrankenFran.

I get a little madder each time I remember.

>>144373453
What they did to yandere is a fucking crime.
Fuck them.

>>144380319
>owari to hajimari no mairusu
My fucking negro.
And yeah, I feel pretty much exactly the same way. Fucking Kitoh.

>>144384535
I can see why people had a problem with it, but I thought it transitioned pretty well into that decision.

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>>144403718
That's enough for today

>>144358376
We could have had more of this
Instead we got the stupid shit that is nisekoi

>>144403575
He's kind of reusing some of the setting/premise for Futago no Teikoku, but that just makes it worse because he clearly has no intentions to ever revisit it.

>>144402995
The author of Taboo Tattoo also does the art for the Fate/Zero manga, that might be why.

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>>144404388
>rushed ending
Nigger, it's been slowly ending for like five years.

>>144365294
People have superheroes that drive them to do good things everyday

All I have is this guy, well, and maybe Reigen.

>>144404426
>implying it won't have an inconclusive FUCK YOU ending

>>144404743
It can't be more of a fuck you than everything since Deicide has already been.

>>144404796
I have absolutely no doubt Kubo could pull it off if he tried.

>>144358973
I think the author literally died who did shindere shoujo, so it can't be helped.

>>144404743
The only FUCK YOU ending I want is to the shipping.