will japan ever top re:zero

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>>144308222
No.

Also;

WHERE IS MY FUCKING SPOON NIPPON

Is it an anime that will be remembered in ten years?

>>144308222
We get harem LN trash every season, so yeah

>>144308832
no chance, it's just the flavor of the month

I promised myself I would never watch another show about a teenager being trapped in a fantasy world.

>>144308222
This false flagging needs to stop.
下げる

Will /a/'s taste ever escape the realm of utter shit?

>>144308964
I don't know. This show is mostly popular with crossboarders and newfags.

>>144308938
that's the last time i'm watching one actually

it's fucking shit escapism, even more than SOL

SAGE THIS FALSE FLAG THREAD

>>144308951
>>144309059
Nigga its public knowledge that the threads are full of cancer from other boards/websites. There is no reason to false flag.

>>144308832
Won't be remembered next year, or whenever Steins;Gate 0 takes back the "BEST ANIME EVER MUH SUFFERING" TITLE

>>144308222
At being a shitty edge isekai?
Probably not.

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>>144308938
I did that too. And here we are now: watching another show "about a teenager being trapped in a fantasy world"
RE:ZERO is really good. A MASTERPIECE!

>>144308222
It's probably a much better show than 70% of /a/'s favorite animu.

>>144309330
>not pairing up
Fuck those.
And fuck my OCD.

any dark fantasy anime that hit the mark harder than this? Berserk, yeah, but anything else? I want to have good taste.

>>144309330
The author being a sadist and hating self-insert MCs lends the series some quality. It's actually fun watching the autistic, arrogant, prideful wanker stumble from mistake to fuck-up to painful death.

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>>144309330
>"holy shit, so many ram and rem"
>80% are males

It's definitely a well-made anime but it has nothing really special going for it. OPM will make a longer-lasting impression if you were to compare the two.

>>144309509
>no catboys
Plebs.

>>144308222
>REEE:Zero
ftfy
>>144309509
SUFFERING

>>144308222

Yes, Re:ZERO is shit, just like your opinions.

People underestimate how great this episode is. It was such a huge call out on Subaru's behavior.
This episode in context, actually cuts deep through Subaru's persona like butter.

>Haven't I already told you Natsuki Subaru? If your own lies do not convince you, they will not convince others.
>Because not once have you said you want to save Emilia.

Crusch spells it out for anyone still in fucking denial. Subaru doesn't do jack shit for anyone other than his own ego.

>What you just displayed was neither loyalty nor devotion. It was the dependency of a dog or the greed of a pig that knows only it's own desires!

Priscilla lays it all out. Subaru doesn't treat others as people. Only as objects of need or desire. And his inability to recognize the humanity others deserve makes him a beast himself.

And how does Subaru respond?

>Stuck up bitch forgot I saved her when we first met.

IN CASE ANYONE DOESNT STILL GET IT the narrative is drawing a parallel to every interaction and forming of relationships Subaru has had. It is a direct call back to both his rationalization that Emilia "owes him a debt she could never hope to repay" and a direct call back to him "rescuing" Rem, where afterwards him and Emilia discuss if he even saved her, or even was responsible for her harm in the first place.

>If you want to convince someone you are righteous, you need to show them something of merit. I see no such thing in you, Natsuki Subaru.

And Anastasia delivers the coup de grace for Subaru and the viewer. Subaru pretends he's the noble hero of a light novel or video game based on his own sense if self-righteousness. And the otaku viewer who has been self-inserting into Subaru this entire time, and probably sputtering outrage at these "bitches and whores who just don't understand what a Nice Guy Subaru is and how much he sacrifices for them" is left in a state of impotent rage like Subaru is.

>>144309849
thank you

Today's episode ended too soon, for fucks sake.

I NEED MOAR

>>144309849
Couldn't have said it any better. Glad someone understood the message of this episode.

>>144308222
WHY DO SHITPOSTERS ALWAYS USE SAME PICTURES FOR THEIR UNISPIRED BAITS?
https://boards.fireden.net/a/search/image/hFBuhF8-7t33BACuIi_WZg/

>>144309849
Hi JazzKatCritic

>>144309849
>faces a serial killer many times stronger than him just to stall for time
>for his own ego
>throws himself in front of demon hounds out of pure instinct and desire to save someone
>for his own ego
Fuck off, it's not that simple. Although autists will agree with you anyway just because they want to be on their made up anti self insert side.

>>144309849
Subaru isn't an asshole, he's simply broken after failing so many times despite trying so hard and then having no one around that's aware of the shit he's gone through. It's not like he's been egoistic from the start, he's gradually become that way because no one's been recognizing his constant efforts.

Subaru wants so much to save everyone, and yet everyone misunderstands his intentions.

Truly, only Reinhardt and Rem understand him. Too bad he was so dumb talking shit to Reinhardt, which's the only one who would listen to him.

>>144309422
>re zero
>dark fantasy
Anon...

>>144309849
>literally copy pasted from reddit
kekd

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Unless it has some crazy ending it will always be better than average for me.

The last two episodes have been pretty solid though to be fair so who knows.

>>144310209
His social interactions are terrible.
In the heat of the moment, and when it's a snap decision, he DOES shine through with heroic actions.

That's his good point.

>>144309849
>Haven't I already told you Natsuki Subaru? If your own lies do not convince you, they will not convince others.
>Because not once have you said you want to save Emilia.
That's not what she means she realizes he's doing it for revenge and not Emilia so she thinks he's just trying to use Emilia.

>>144310487
Yeah. Too bad that I actually agree with that post as well.

>>144310487
>kekd
>knowing that
Kill yourself you cancerous newfag.

>>144310209
But that's right, he only sees worth in himself when being of use to others. He feels the need to attention whore at all times because if he's not helping he feels useless. That's why he couldn't stand waiting a single afternoon while emilia solved her own business, and proceeded to fuck up at any given chance

>>144310585
Yeah, Crusch is a pretentious bitch who thinks she knows everything. Actually, all candidates except for Emilia are just like that, some are just more agressive than the others.

>>144309849
>autism

>>144310637
I swear this is the 5th posts I've seen from you today using "cancerous newfag", chill out mate

>>144309849
>
IN CASE ANYONE DOESNT STILL GET IT the narrative is drawing a parallel to every interaction and forming of relationships Subaru has had. It is a direct call back to both his rationalization that Emilia "owes him a debt she could never hope to repay" and a direct call back to him "rescuing" Rem, where afterwards him and Emilia discuss if he even saved her, or even was responsible for her harm in the first place.
What the fuck is this even trying to say?

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is this just a really lame flashlight icon or some rune and important for the plot?

>>144310922
If you heard it that often then you should really lurk more. Its pretty obvious that you are new.

>>144310922
Yeah, dude is totally only one person.

>this is the 5th posts I've seen

It must be because you are an actual cancerous newfag piece of shit

>>144310922
Maybe try not being one, so people won't call you that then

>>144311073
>>144311082
Not even him, friends.

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>>144310999
Considering his reaction, either that's the symbol of empty battery, or it's supposed to mean something else.

>all these people literally too autistic to follow 16 episodes of character development
Shame it's so hard to find people to discuss this anime with

>>144310999
It's the start up screen. The battery's started dying and now his phone is doing the thing where it keeps dying a couple minutes after turning it on.

>>144311229
that's why most shows have so many information dumps and long dialogues explaining what's going on. Because people are dumb

>>144311229
What are you even trying to say? Most people recognize that Subaru had some solid character development. It's just that in his case, his development have slowly revealed him to be a massive piece of shit, very different from your first impression of him.

Being a decently written character is not the same as being a likeable one. Don't be retarded

>>144310985
learn to greentext summerfriend

>>144310999
Airplane mode?

>>144311459
>It's just that in his case, his development have slowly revealed him to be a massive piece of shit, very different from your first impression of him.
Exactly the kind of autist I'm talking about.

>>144311229
This show actually showed who understands context, actually watches the show, and understands why the characters are doing what they are doing, to those who aren't.

People have been cuddled with long infodumps that watching this suddenly gets them mad because they don't understand what is happening, even though the show covered everything they are actually asking.

It's great.

>>144311566
Nice argument, retard

Are people really this dumb, that they think Subaru is an asshole or a shitty person?

No wonder you people are lonely autists. Completely incapable of understanding human emotions.

>>144311703
>Subaru is an asshole or a shitty person?
No, he's a fucking egotistic retard though.

>>144311639
Subaru isn't originally an asshole that's finally had his cover blown, he's turned into an asshole because his efforts kept piling up while no one else knows about them. Over time he's started craving for acknowledgment. Not because he was an attention whore from the start but because he's been broken over and over.
If you think Subaru has been an asshole from the beginning you should rewatch the entire series.

>>144311756
This. He's not a bad guy, it's not his fault he's the Bishop of Pride

>>144308222
Shouldn't be that hard considering after episode like 12 or so it just devolved to some boring ass repetitions descent into madness by the MC.

>>144308222
>will japan ever top shit:Zero
Already toped.

>>144311834
I won't lie, I wouldn't mind some dumb power-up if that turns out to be true.

>>144311930
Doesn't mir invisible hand rape preist call him Pride while ranting about how loved he is?
I thought that was a pretty big indicator.

>>144312063
He says he knows everyone's face but Pride.

>>144309849
He truly did nothing wrong. HAIL SAINT SUBARU!

>>144312114
There isn't a Bishop of Envy, is there?
Might come true if there's only Pride left

>>144312114
So Pride could be somebody else and Subaru has some kind of outside power because of how much Satella wants his dick?
I'll be mad if that's the case anon. 118.

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>>144312063
Yeah, I remember that but that doesn't necessarily confirm that it's true, right?

>>144312114
He said that in the LN? Because he didn't say that in the anime.

>Episode 16
>Still spending 20 minutes an episode for character developement OF A SINGLE CHARACTER.

Unless there's some massive timeskip or some incredibly awkward increase in pacing, this shit is going to end in a cliffhanger and you fuckers will be stuck waiting another year for the next season to do the exact same shit.

I'm not familiar with the light novel or the manga so I don't know how long that goes, but I'm guessing its not finished yet because this show clearly has no idea how it wants to end.

>>144312429
>I'm not familiar with the light novel
Opinion discarded.

Jokes aside, it will absolutely end on a brilliant note, don't worry

>>144312429
The LN has 6 volumes, and they are still adapting the third arc.

I think that the anime will only finish this arc.

>>144312513
The LN has 9 volumes out stupid.

Arc 3 ends in Vol9. Anime ends with Arc 3. So no problem there.

>>144311617
Reminds me of back when yarari aired. You can't even tell if it's just a loud retarded minority or if the average f/a/ggot is just stupid
And you know whar makes it funnier? The same people who can't understand those simple interactions, emotions, thoughts and behaviors are the ones that go around calling the character autists. It's hilarious

>>144312555
meh, i'm just dumb then. Still, nine volumes to cover only three arcs?

Holy shit.

>>144312686
Arc 4 is longer than Arc 1-3 combined.

>>144308222
Just adapt A Serbian Film.

Subaru isnt doing anything that would make him an asshole. He is in an alien place with no clues or hints as to what is going on. Nobody can even begin to help him with his dillema, and all the while he is stumbling around im the dark clinging to any stability he can.

You people expect too much from a 17 year old kid.

He's a kid. He isnt even a man. This is like throwing a high school kid into combat with no training and expecting him to be a bad ass. Only much worse.

>>144312555
>The LN has 9 volumes out stupid.
>Arc 3 ends in Vol9. Anime ends with Arc 3. So no problem there.
Like I said, its gonna be a fucking mess at this rate.

>>144312510
I doubt that considering its Episode 16 and they still haven't even finished character building, fuck man, last 3 episodes were just the same old "Drooling Kawasaki is having a mental breakdown" It didn't advance the plot at all, they literally decided to do something at the end of today's episode, and this shit is what, 20 minutes after intro/outro?

Its too much, man. At first I was glad its a 25 episode run, but now I'm just wondering why the fuck I'm even watching a person that can rewind time make decisions completely uncharacteristic of someone with said power.

>>144311552
That's the most retarded airplane I've ever seen

>>144312761
>This is like throwing a high school kid into combat with no training and expecting him to be a bad ass. Only much worse.

So like literally entire history of mankind up until like 50 years ago?

>>144312904
Except that he lived until now in modern Japan, so Subaru's as sheltered as it gets.

>>144312319
>>144312264
>>144312168
Maybe since Pride is the mother of all sin, Subaru becomes Pride once he absorbs all the other powers?

>>144312429
>A single character
Well yes that's what happens in most savepoint stories.

>>144312761
>This is like throwing a high school kid into combat with no training and expecting him to be a bad ass. Only much worse.
Jokes aside isn't that exactly what's happening?
Subaru is in way over his head and has no idea of whats going on.
Fish out of water, being thrown into a hurricane and blasted by debris and lightening ever five or so minuets.

Poor kid has it tough.
Still developed a bit of an ego though.

>>144312853
Do you have ADHD? It's going great so far. You're complaining about one of the main points of the show being focused

>>144312904
No, because people dont usually fight super humans with magical powers in a completely alien world, then come back to life after they die with memories intact.

And many people did not manage to cope with being thrown into the deep end in real life, let alone in Subaru's situation.

The arguments for why he is an asshole arent even good ones.

They boil down to him being an egotistical asshole because he wants to do things for himself as opposed to being purely altruistic.

Theres nothing wrong with putting your interests first; especially in such a dire situation as Subaru.

>>144312868
The MC is retarded, so, it fits perfectly.

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>>144312980
Holy fuck.
D E E P E S T L O R E

>>144312960
>A truant kid in modern japan
>Sheltered
kekekeke.

>>144313071
I'll wager he's less retarded than you are in the same situatiom.

>>144312980
But Satella would be the mother of all sin because she's the object of worship here. Maybe is Subaru decides to hoard the powers and then take on Satella with them he is definately pride.

>>144312992
You don't fucking say?
Couldn't have realized that without you explaining it to me, thanks faggot can you go choke on a dick now?

>>144313116
I disagree, but at the same time Subaru is neither 100% correct or 100% wrong, that's what makes him a good character.

He's still a fucking moron though

>>144309849
I'm glad that there are people who get this. Subaru does the nice guy act all the time and pretends that he doesn't really care about getting a proper reward(every time he does something good he only asks for an insignificant reward) just because this inflates his ego, but it's only when shit hits the fan that he shows his true colors.

>>144313037
>Do you have ADHD? It's going great so far.
Do you have reading deficiency of some kind? There's 9 episodes left and they still haven't fucking left namek you dipshit, it can be going amazing, this shit is not ending well.
>>144313050
>No
kay.

are there any english translations that don't read like they were written by a retarded Japanese kindergartener

>>144313124
Doesn't Satella love Subaru though and set this whole thing up since he died in the past and she wanted to revive him or something?

Aldebaran is a cute name

>>144308222
They already have. Multiple times. In fact, it's not even hard.

Is subaru going to ride the dragon

Why hasn't he showed anyone his phone till now? they might have figured out he was summoned

>>144312980
He already has pride inside himself as implied in arc 4 at the sage tower
Also
>Bishop of sloth detests and punishes laziness
>subaru is constantly denied self pride and has to rely on others for everything

Why didn't he just asked Beetlejuice for halp?

Reposting the brilliant analysis from last thread:

People underestimate how great this episode is. It was such a huge call out on Subaru's behavior.
This episode in context, actually cuts deep through Subaru's persona like butter.

>Haven't I already told you Natsuki Subaru? If your own lies do not convince you, they will not convince others.
>Because not once have you said you want to save Emilia.

Crusch spells it out for anyone still in fucking denial. Subaru doesn't do jack shit for anyone other than his own ego.

>What you just displayed was neither loyalty nor devotion. It was the dependency of a dog or the greed of a pig that knows only it's own desires!

Priscilla lays it all out. Subaru doesn't treat others as people. Only as objects of need or desire. And his inability to recognize the humanity others deserve makes him a beast himself.

And how does Subaru respond?

>Stuck up bitch forgot I saved her when we first met.

IN CASE ANYONE DOESNT STILL GET IT the narrative is drawing a parallel to every interaction and forming of relationships Subaru has had. It is a direct call back to both his rationalization that Emilia "owes him a debt she could never hope to repay" and a direct call back to him "rescuing" Rem, where afterwards him and Emilia discuss if he even saved her, or even was responsible for her harm in the first place.

>If you want to convince someone you are righteous, you need to show them something of merit. I see no such thing in you, Natsuki Subaru.

And Anastasia delivers the coup de grace for Subaru and the viewer. Subaru pretends he's the noble hero of a light novel or video game based on his own sense if self-righteousness. And the otaku viewer who has been self-inserting into Subaru this entire time, and probably sputtering outrage at these "bitches and whores who just don't understand what a Nice Guy Subaru is and how much he sacrifices for them" is left in a state of impotent rage like Subaru is.

>>144308222
It's a good show but acting like it is the best thing ever is just stupid and could be considered as bite.

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>>144313243
Agree.

>>144313350

HUEHUEHUEHUE

>>144313294
Does he actually detest it? I thought he was entertained by it greatly.
And it would make sense if he doesn't practice it himself, because he should understand it pretty deeply and know it leads to self-ruin

>>144313294
It's implied he has three essences, not that he has pride.

>>144313316
go away with your spamming reddit

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>>144313316
There is but one path

>>144311119
>>144311112
>>144311082
>>144311119
Wew we are reaching levels of ironic samefagging here

>>144313371
Br, please go home.

>>144312429
>another year

You wish. We will have to waith until arc 4 is fully adapted into LN

>>144308222
they never reached the potential of the 80's and 90's anime to begin with

>>144313470

Why can't they use the WN?

>>144313224
I have no idea, all I know is that Satella is batshit crazy and wants Subaru to love her like she loves him. I still don't even know about the first loop.

>>144313470
Where can I read the original WN by the way?

Why would anyone join the witch cult? It seems like it would suck.

You only think this show is good because it attempts to have an actual story instead of just being bland shit with no tension like the vast majority of anime series. It's like finding a restaurant that serves you instant ramen made with Mountain Dew instead of water and topped with Doritos in a neighborhood full of restaurants that only serve literal shit.

Protip: Badly written suffering is called "melodrama", and this show is a good example of it.

Re:Zero is great just for how much it triggers self-inserters.

>>144312761
Still unlikeable, with the mental maturity of a five year old. He spent this episode demanding things of people, expecting them to what he wants, when throws a tantrum every time they don't, just like every single episode before this. The only difference this time is that he gets told.

Why did Satella go full murderhobo on her fellow witches?

>Show is good
>Is mainstream
>Be a contrarian faggot and hate it
I'm such a special snowflake

>>144313535
Why would anyone join a normal cult? People are retarded.

>>144313535
It would suck also to be a villager under any of the future queens

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MOVE THE FUCK OUTTA WAY BEST GIRL COMING THROUGH

>>144313535
Power, cool robes and a sense of community that you just can't find anywhere else.

Reposting the absolutely brilliant and exceptionally well written analysis from above:

People underestimate how great this episode is. It was such a huge call out on Subaru's behavior.
This episode in context, actually cuts deep through Subaru's persona like butter.

>Haven't I already told you Natsuki Subaru? If your own lies do not convince you, they will not convince others.
>Because not once have you said you want to save Emilia.

Crusch spells it out for anyone still in fucking denial. Subaru doesn't do jack shit for anyone other than his own ego.

>What you just displayed was neither loyalty nor devotion. It was the dependency of a dog or the greed of a pig that knows only it's own desires!

Priscilla lays it all out. Subaru doesn't treat others as people. Only as objects of need or desire. And his inability to recognize the humanity others deserve makes him a beast himself.

And how does Subaru respond?

>Stuck up bitch forgot I saved her when we first met.

IN CASE ANYONE DOESNT STILL GET IT the narrative is drawing a parallel to every interaction and forming of relationships Subaru has had. It is a direct call back to both his rationalization that Emilia "owes him a debt she could never hope to repay" and a direct call back to him "rescuing" Rem, where afterwards him and Emilia discuss if he even saved her, or even was responsible for her harm in the first place.

>If you want to convince someone you are righteous, you need to show them something of merit. I see no such thing in you, Natsuki Subaru.

And Anastasia delivers the coup de grace for Subaru and the viewer. Subaru pretends he's the noble hero of a light novel or video game based on his own sense if self-righteousness. And the otaku viewer who has been self-inserting into Subaru this entire time, and probably sputtering outrage at these "bitches and whores who just don't understand what a Nice Guy Subaru is and how much he sacrifices for them" is left in a state of impotent rage like Subaru is.

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>>144313535
To get away from your ordinary every day slothful life.

steins gate copycat with more forced drama

muh suffering > oh wait I can go back in time to save the day > LUL

>>144313610
>tumblr1278389.jpg

>>144313316

>guy goes around saving people
>people complain because he isn't doing it for the right reasons

No wonder reddit liked this analysis.

>>144313535
Have you seen the fucking ruler candidates? I'd join a cult too if I knew one of these bitches is going to rule the country.

>>144308222
What did Re:Zero top, exactly?

>>144313610
It isn't a mythical beast?

Dropped.

>>144313610
So that's Lust?

>>144309025
>Re:Zero
>Escapism

haha

>>144313535
No internet, how else could they find a room full of similar thinking anonymous virgins to talk with?

>>144313376
He detests it. It goes back to his past where he blames himself for not acting and losing someone.

>>144313410
didn't beetlejuice knew all bishops but pride? Not much left to think, though I won't be sure either

>>144313316
Saving people is right, regardless of the reason. Also, stop posting this every thread

>>144308222
i don't think so

>>144313504
Because the most profits the higher-ups get from this is the LN sales. This whole show is just and and for the LN. If you watch it live, you see that the commercial breaks is full of ads about the Ln and other merchandises

>>144313682
You could always support the cute half-elf candidate. Joining a cult you would serve a different half-elf anyway, but with a crazy middle-manager to fuck you up.

>>144313693
Maybe gluttony

>>144313316
>>144309849

>wah wah the guy going around saving people isn't a perfect altruist
>hes a shit and im going to let people die because of that

Seriously?

There's a lot of political sense in what the 3 said, and I'd respect them more if they said that they were just letting Emilia die to cement their own claims, or that they didn't believe him.

Instead, they're going 'I'm not going to help, because you, personally, are a shit.'

That makes them infinitely worse.

>>144313504
Partially because the author is treating the WN like a first draft, adding and refining stuff for publication, a lot like how OPM is based on the manga instead of the webcomic.

Mostly because nobody makes money off WNs and there's no point in producing an anime if there aren't LNs to sell.

>>144313316
Do you think the missionary who saves the lives of third world peasants whilst extolling the virtues of their religion and clearly expecting converts, is a good or a bad person?

>>144313794

This. Refusing to save someone because you don't like the messengers moral compass is a shitty thing to do.

Which is fine, but they're also trying to take a moral highground, which is fucking retarded.

>>144313749
Maybe Subaru is the unacknowledge bishop of envy, I don't know.

>Subaru is acting edgy by pretending to go insane in episode 15
>Based beetlegoose calls him out on it
>Subaru is acting edgy by pretending wanting to kill the cult in episode 16
>Based Crusch calls him out on it

Pretty much the only enjoyment I get out of this show is how everyone immediately looks through Subarus attempts to be edgy.

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>>144313663

>complaining about lack of tension caused by time loops
>in a show centered around time loops

>>144313836
Good actions are good because of the will behind them, not because of the results.

>>144313854
The kingdom is done for

>>144313791
Is Gluttony the one that turns into a Dragon?

>>144313794

this

>>144313836
He's a bad person by the strictures of his own religion, assuming he's a Christian.

>>144313535
Same reason people join ISIS, gives them a purpose in life

>>144313719
>not dreaming of being called upon your bullshit and constantly suffering in newer and harsher unexpected ways

Boring normal life suffering isn't enough for me anymore anon.

>>144313535
Witch cult:
Pros: amazing fashion, cool powers(can melt into fucking shadows like its nothing), high combat ability, competent(if a bit insane) leader, lots of close friends you can trust
Cons: guilt

Empire Villager:
Pros: clear conscience
Cons: retarded rulers, unstable country, helpless against literally everything outside of magical barriers(even tiny dogs), no money, starve every winter, acquaintances but hardly any real friends

I'd say the choice is pretty obvious

>>144313688
it isn't actually a girl senpai, it's the much hyped white whale

>>144313925

>good actions are good because of the will behind them

Fucking retarded. It doesn't matter if a man charges into a fire to save a child because he wants to save the child, or because he needs the 15.40 an hour he gets for being a fireman, it's an act worthy of respect.

>>144313964
Other than the "a bit insane" part, this is true.

>>144313854
Finally somebody said something I can agree with

>>144313726
witch cult = 4chan (or 2chan since the author is jap) ?

SYMBOLISM.

>>144313794
What? A completely logical and coherent post in a REEEE:Zero thread?

Good to see someone sees that both parties have flaws

>>144313964
Clearly you start your own faction with Blackjack and hookers.

>>144313959

Everyone's a bad person by the strictures of Christianity.

That's kind of the point.

>>144309423
This actually.

>>144311350
You sound pretty jaded anon. Subaru is just an example of how a NEET would fare in a fantasy world. It doesn't make him evil. He's been in that world for a few weeks, and was introduced as someone aware of the fantasy world trope. It shouldn't be surprising he's still treating it like a game. The real fucked up thing is return by death and the accumulating PTSD. A lot of his deaths were torturous and unavoidable, and seeing people around him gruesomely killed has really fucked with his thinking. He's not just a dog, he's an abused dog, and other characters don't know nor care. Don't hate Subaru, he's just a scapegoat. Otherwise you're just asking for another Gary Stu MC.

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>>144314030
You need to brush up on your philosophy. People must only be treated as ends, not means.

>>144313794
This so hard. Priscilla wanted him to lick her foot to show his devotion and when he reluctantly does so he gets kicked.

If he didn't lick her foot wouldn't that show he was an actual piece of shit who wouldn't put his pride before others?

It would have it boring but best boy reinhard should have been around. He would have helped and Subaru wouldn't need to rely on these fickle piece of shit candidates.

>>144314188
>being kantian

>>144313964
>amazing fashion
Dressing up as a group of discarded black condoms together with your coworkers is not amazing fashion.

>>144313535
They realized that life is meaningless but couldn't go full nihilistic, instead just using a cult with a "greater cause" as a proxy for meaning.

>>144313794
I don't see what the problem is here really. Would you trust someone like Subaru? After that scene in court, being allied with Emilia, and acting like a fucking crazy lunatic? I would have hated that guy's guts and not wanted to help solely because of him. He has shown nothing likeable about his character to them. He was lucky they even gave him some of their time.

>>144314120
The act of desiring that would be evil as well, unless he hoped only for the salvation of their souls.

>>144314188
Go to bed, Immanuel

I liked how it showed the flaws in everyone in this episode.

Spoil me a bit but does subaru actually use what he learned from this episode and actually apply it later on?

>>144314188

That saying has absolutely no relevance to good actions being good because of the will behind them as opposed to what they cause.

post the white whale comic starring subaru

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>>144314245
>Dressing up as a discarded black condom is not amazing
>implying

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>>144314188
>WESTERN PHILOSOPHY
Fantastic joke anon, you should become a comedian

>>144313794

>Instead, they're going 'I'm not going to help, because you, personally, are a shit.'

Im pretty sure this is just wrong. Crusch called him out for being a shit, but the reason she didnt help is because Subaru didnt really give her any reasons to help him. Jewloli called him out for being a shit, too, but she actually helped him. She also made note of the fact that, similar to Crusch, Subaru didnt really give her much of a reason to help him. Its more "I'm not going to help, because you gave me no reason to; but you, personally, are a shit."

What you said is more or less true for Priscilla, though.

>>144309423
>The author being a sadist and hating self-insert MCs lends the series some quality. It's actually fun watching the autistic, arrogant, prideful wanker stumble from mistake to fuck-up to painful death.

It's actually not that fun. Part of the reason I hate those self-insert MCs and want to see them taken down a notch is because they become super strong with absolutely no effort and bitches go wet at the sight of him immediately.

Meanwhile he made his MC a huge weakling and most of the women in the series have either killed him, rejected him or just despise him for his personality. It's not fun seeing an one-sided slaughter from the strong to the weak, unless you're a certain ojou-sama.

>>144313682
What does the "kill maim burn who will tell you to and be casually killed by your superiors when they want to add punctuation to their statements" cult offer you that "kill maim burn as you like, I'm doing away with all power structures" Felt doesn't?

>>144313604
In a normal, respectable doomsday cult you would expect someone to get laid and do drugs. There guys just seem to get their shit fucked up.

>>144314337

Which, presumably, would be the reason he walked to a foreign shithole and started helping people.

Christianity is about saving yourself, and saving others. Missionary work is considered to be among the finest things a Christian can do within the faith, because they're helping to save others.

>>144314441
Kill yourself weaboo

waifubait and suffering - the anime

>>144314383
I'm not 100% certain but I'm pretty sure Subaru uses the knowledge of the White Whale, because it's hard to track, to get people's help.

>>144313794
>'I'm not going to help, because you, personally, are a shit.'
This is only true for that cunt Priscilla.

>>144313719
>haha
Kill yourself, retard.

How do I get Priscilla to like mwee?

>>144309849
Damn my nigga, that was an actual good wall text.

>>144314212
She's a bitch who would shit on him regardless of what he did.

>>144314534
Im guessing thats his trump card in all of this? It seems his knowledge of the witch cult means little to nothing

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>>144309509
>80% are males

>>144314469
>Meanwhile he made his MC a huge weakling and most of the women in the series have either killed him, rejected him or just despise him for his personality. It's not fun seeing an one-sided slaughter from the strong to the weak, unless you're a certain ojou-sama.
Rem likes Subaru. And Emilia doesn't despise him neither, she's just a bit disappointed because of the shit he did. She will eventually forgive him, though. Probably. And both had the chance to see that Subaru isn't that bad, actually wants to help, and is an okay guy.

>>144314506
>implying reading mountains of texts from logic choppers is more beneficial than practical eastern philosophy

>>144314539
>>144314466

Then why didn't they just say that?

Oh wait, it's because they're huge bitches who feel the need to take a moral highground against a NEET when they've just condemned a village to death.

>>144314564
Be a muscular kyoudai with disfigured face and an amazing helmet

To be fair Emilia getting killed would be an help to all the royal pretenders. Helping Subaru just has no advantage, regardless of his reputation.

>>144313410
this, nothing confirms he is pride yet

beatrice would have noticed if he was pride, it's pretty much safe to say that he isn't pride

it's just autists making shit up

Honestly haven't liked the show that much up in till this point these last 2 episodes have been fairly good though. But I still can't see why people are calling this show a masterpiece.

>>144314614
Yeah, from this episode, it's pretty apparent the candidates don't give a shit about the cult and Subaru realized that he needs something else to give him an edge.

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>>144311896
By who?

>>144314659
>against a NEET
Know how I know you're a pathetic self-inserter?

Why are the royal candidates so pretentious?

>but they're just calling out Subaru on etc.
You know that's not their motive.

>>144314639
Note "most" not "all", and Rem still killed him in the second timeline at the mansion.(Even if he was afflicted by the curse)

>>144314662
I could probably manage the muscular part, but do I really have to be disfigured if I'm still going to wear a helmet at all times?

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>>144314030
In reality, it's probably closer to a combination of both things, but if someone helped people solely for their own personal gain, it would be evil.

>>144314539
>>144314466

>if you don't help me everyone in a mansion and town is going to die and puck is going to freeze a significant portion of the country
>why should i help you you shit

This is in character for Priscilla, and maybe Anastasia. But Crusch should have wanted to stop the Witch Cult from murdering a bunch of people.

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>he can't tell anyone about the witch's curse

So why doesn't Subaru just tell everyone he can see the future? Problem solved.

>walk into love live! thread
>waifuism and nothign else

>walk into re:zero thread
>philosophy, history, and discussion about what makes each of the characters tick

are re:zero threads the best on /a/? I'll be honest the first arc and a half was pretty bland but it's got pretty tasty lately, easily a contender for my AotY

>>144314722
Shitty nobles. Peasants will eventually kill them all

>>144314758
>but if someone helped people solely for their own personal gain, it would be evil.

No it wouldn't.

>>144314777
People are already calling him a madman

>>144314721

Know how I know you don't have a proper response?

It's because you resort to ad-hominems

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>>144313610
Your mom looks hot, anon!

>>144314092
BUT HEY! THAT'S JUST A THEORY...

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Despite of her being the best and me wanting to be her slave,
why exactly did Priscilla get so mad when he threw his pride away and licked her feet?

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>>144313794
Finally, a man of reason.

Some people in these threads have a very twisted sense of morals. They see Subaru do good for selfish reasons, and they hate him. They then see Crusch and that purple loli let dozens of people die while refusing to lift a single finger for political reasons, and they applaud them.
Subaru is more of a hero than any of the candidates. I doubt that any of them, except maybe Emilia, would still be willing to try to save the day after being through what he 's experienced.

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>>144314822

>>144314697
No one said it was confirmed, and she did detect the witches smell. If beetlejuice couldn't tell if he was a bishop when the smell was stronger what makes you think beatrice can?

>>144314773
It probably isn't such a bright idea to spread around the info about Puck's doings when EMT dies. I mean she's a fucking walking nuke for lunatics.

>>144314722

>be a big shot aiming for the throne of a country
>a literal nobody nags you to help another candidate
>he has nothing to offer
>isn't pleasant to talk to

They just don't like him because he's a piece of trash from their perspective, anon

>>144314722
Not to mention none of them are wise or male. Like, who would give the reins of the country to any of the 4 candidates?
>one is a jew loli
>one looks like satan
>one is a massive,sadistic bitch
>one pretends to be righteous but doesn't deliver when needed
fuck them all

Alright; you faggots have convinced me to marathon this up until the latest episode. I have been holding off but these threads are prodding me into it. I just want to find the answer to this burning question I have, is the fanbase really cancerous shitbags who have no taste.... or not? Preparing my cringe meters upon the battleship. IM GOING INNN.

>>144314810
>>144314721

rekt

>>144314758
>desire is evil
Fuck off fatso.

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>>144308832
Yes, it's the new madoka.

>>144314810
Know how I know you don't have a proper response?

It's because you resort to argument from fallacy.
I'm not even the guy you were arguing with, I was just embarrassed by your post.

>>144314839
Priscilla worships pride and believes Subaru to be Pride, but Subaru showed no Pride meaning she was wrong

Subaru is on his way to becoming Pride

>>144313905
She calls him out for not loving Emilia enough not pretending to want to kill them, he wants to do it purely for revenge and not his waifu.

>>144314827
An anime to surpass Evangelion.

>>144308222
I don't know because its not done
It could end up being amazing or terrible or anywhere in between so just wait for it to be done before spouting your nonsense

>>144309849
> If your own lies do not convince you, they will not convince others.
>What you just displayed was neither loyalty nor devotion. It was the dependency of a dog or the greed of a pig that knows only it's own desires!
>If you want to convince someone you are righteous, you need to show them something of merit. I see no such thing in you, Natsuki Subaru.

I find all of these statements off-putting; they don't make sense in the context of subaru's relationship with those characters and the conversations they were having. They make all of these grand and "insightful" pronouncements / judgements of his character based on what? They barely know him. To them he's just an over-eager clown who seems to be ignorant of their society. Why the hell are they even bothering to talk to him at all?

We as viewers might know enough about subaru to condemn his character like that, but they sure as shit shouldn't. It doesn't make them seem like super smart politicians who can read people, it just seems sloppy and out of place.

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>>144314875
>massive sadistic bitch
I see no problem.

>>144314879
Don't lose faith in Emilia like most of these tards did, anon.

>>144314659

But they both said that. Crusch mentions it multiple times at the beginning of her negotiations with Subaru, even explicitly rejecting the one offer that Subaru has for her under the guise that it will happen regardless. Jewloli mentions it at the very end, saying that Subaru does not know how to properly negotiate because he is too invested in is own desires.

>>144314839
I think she got mad that he didn't even attempt to offer her anything in return and just immediately turned to begging. Also it's possible him doing that wasn't something she predicted which made her even more mad that she was wrong about something.

>>144314931

I'd already made my point.

Until he makes an actual rebuttal, I don't need to make another one.

>>144314777
He could try speaking in hypotheticals. Such as, "if we go to this place and do this, this very specific thing may happen."

>>144314921
>sub 10k sales
>new madoka

Im keking way too hard, reddit:zero fags sure are delusional

Yes. The author will win Nobel Prize in Literature at not so distant future. Such brilliance in mere Japanese light novel. Unimaginable.

Who would win in a fight, Subaru or literally anyone at this point? This last episode just told me that there's a good chance he would lose to a loli catgirl

>>144314915
Maybe you ought to give that brain of yours a good workout and read what I've written again.

>>144313794
don't dare use logic here faggot

priscilla best girl!

>>144314879
Remmebr, Rem is best girl

>>144314976
Emilia is shit and always will be shit

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>>144314822

>>144314973
>Licking feet isn't seen as a reward

The author does not have refined patrician tastes

>>144314931

nigga he'd already made a proper argument and got someone posting that ad-homimen meme shit in response.

What's he supposed to respond to that with?

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"What why? Do I need a reason to save others?"
From the Book of TouMAN, 3, 12, 23

>>144314777
Trips confirm plot hole larger than the black hole at the center of our galaxy

I think the real problem here is that Subaru went into these talks without thinking about it from the other parties' perspectives. They really don't have anything to gain by helping Subaru.

>>144315000
She's reading his mind 24/7 and will punish him if he makes any sort of effort to tell people.
This has been explained thousands of times already.

>>144315022
loli cattrap is in fact the father of reinhard.

The gramps is the father of the loli cattrap. They pretty hardcore swordmens but salt from the death of the grandmother of reinhard and reinhard being so OP.

>>144315022
Well i think Subaru can only win if he absorbs every power from every Bishop

>>144314777
Because they die. Dead people are not potential future assessts.

>>144314311
If you let your people die because you hate the guts of the guy who's pleading for them, you are a fucking terrible ruler, or at least wannabe ruler.

>>144315089
based touman

honestly NT9 does the whole dead loop way better than shit:zero.

>>144315076
When does licking feet of whores is considered a reward?

Checkmate m8.

>>144315099
Sounds pretty yanderish.

If she's really EMT wouldn't it be in her benefit for Subaru to better help her stay alive?

>>144315022
Subaru is the weakest. I mean shit when you have someone like Rem dying all the time that should tell you something about the power levels in this world. Subaru can never hope to catch up to anyone. He wins solely on future knowledge of events gained through repeated suffering. It's kind of funny to think how hilariously short his magical world trip would have been without his ability.

>>144314392
It does. If you save someone just for money, the action has no moral value. It only has moral value if it was done out of duty, i.e. you would save someone even if you weren't paid. Anyone can save someone if they were paid a billion dollars to do it.

>>144313964
This is actually pretty convincing.

>>144311617
I'd blame it on a racial trait, there's a lot of niggers watchiing anime. That race has basic problems with context and planning ahead

inb4 I want /pol/ to leave ;^)

>>144315165
Except Subaru doesn't have a superpower (at least not yet) and he lacks the impenetrable plot armor.

>>144314788
Not an argument.

>>144308222

Why lie to yourself

>>144314839
tfw subaru actually want to lick her foot even if she did not help him

>>144315257
Neither is yours. You made a statement and brought forth no arguments to support it. Why should I bother when you don't have the courtesy to do it?

>>144310999
I believe the name of this trope is called "Chekhov's Gun"

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>>144315228
Maybe I should start a cult

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>>144315100
the loli catperson is also a boy?!

ARE THERE ANY REAL CATGIRLS IN THIS WORLD? ARE THEY ALL TRAPS?! THIS IS TRUE SUFFERING

>>144313905
>based

Fuck off. All these stupid cunts acting like the shit. They wouldnt last through 1/20th of the injuries, pain, and trauma Subaru survived.

Yeah great job calling out a shell shocked kid whose survived unimaginable pain and suffering and is still trying to do right by the only people he has any affection toward in this world.

>>144315023
Maybe you should work out what your position entails before posting. You just labelled helping people evil if you desire something from it. Presumably you don't think helping people is evil therefore it's desire that's evil.

>>144314973
>>144314839

Post more Priscilla screenshots from this episode.

I Dropped this at episode 12, when felt gets introduced as a candidate for queen, does this get any better, or does it keep being generic otaku-bait with a few flashes of good directing?

>>144315097
Subaru is dumb. He is so dumb that he thought those self-centered bitches would agree to save people while getting nothing in return.

He is SO DUMB, that he even thought they would believe his nonsense talk.

Really, only Reinhardt would hear Subaru and try to help him.

>>144315022
author said in a Q&A he can beat that village loli who got her eyes torn out, Petra

Is there a law saying all royal candidates have to be pretentious assholes? Why is Emilia literally the only one close to a normal human being?

>>144313964
>Witch cult:
may die anytime if you fucked up even once to your leader.

>>144314758
Something that makes the world better cannot be evil. The betterment of the world is counted in lives saved, in troubles avoided, in money earned, in peace maintained. That's solid, tangible matter. Your definition of "good" could be applied to a clusterfuck of ruin and suffering, given it was the result of some noble action.

>>144315133
>If you let your people die
What basis is there even for this? Subaru can't prove anything he says is true or how he knows it and they get multiple reports of the witch cult constantly that don't amount to much. Nobody is going to take a chance on a crazy guy. You're being silly.

>>144314758
>but if someone helped people solely for their own personal gain, it would be evil.
So the act of a rich man who helps the impoverished only to make himself look better is inherently an evil act? Even if everyone is better off and noone is worse off? Uh huh.

>>144312868
Rocket mode.

>>144315165
Touman would resolve every problem:
>Candidates
Punch them and make them care for peasants
>Reinhard
Punch him and make him change his fate
>Cultist
Punch them and make them build orphanages
>Satella
Punch her and increase harem size
>White whale
Punch it and make sushi

>>144311229
In terms of how he tries to solve problems, subaru hasn't changed one fucking bit.

>>144315223

>the action has no moral value

Except that it does. It you consider a human to have worth simply because of their humanity, then preserving that worth is a net plus, regardless of motive. The action is given morality, not by motive, but by consequence.

Even if you deny this, then the action is still worthy of respect, due to the courage and physical skills shown. You could also argue that employment is a contract, and fulfilling a contract is a duty. If a man is employed to be a fireman, then it is his duty to save lives from fires. The action is done out of duty, and the fiscal reward is a part of that duty.

>>144315386
Not really
Beetlejuice just beat him up a bit, he left to dispose of Rem just like the other cultists

>>144315356
Yeah, he's incredibly dumb. He's not a bad person like all those stuck up ruler candidates are painting him to be, but he is incredibly stupid.

>>144314111
In fact, forget the faction. Just go with the blackjack and hookers.

>>144314839
you are a beta orbiter
kill yourself fuckboi

>>144315347

It garbage don't even bother

>>144309849
>And his inability to recognize the humanity

>putting his life on the line for children, and later the rest of the village
>only puts himself and Emilia first

yeah, um, nah

Although I will admit Subaru is a child who thinks himself the hero of his story, that's doesn't demerit the good he's done

>>144315221
If he fucks up, it's all but guaranteed to end in death for him, and then it just resets.
He's supposed to get good, not be guided.

>>144315398
>I pride myself on the fact I can tell when someone is lying, and I can tell you were being honest
Can't get out of it that way faggot.

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>>144315223
>Anyone can save someone if they were paid a billion dollars to do it.
The fact of the matter is you still saved someone.

That is tangible, that is reality. Who the fuck cares about some empty abstract reason?

>>144315347
nope it's still being generic and fucking sucks don't even think of coming back to watch it

thank you.

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>>144315341

>>144314758

>it would be evil

No, it wouldn't.

>Get paid money to hand out food to poor people
>this is somehow an evil action

>>144315411
He can't really change that just yet in the story. He has no leverage (yet). While his powers are strong, they take time to fully take advantage of.

>>144315133
>your people
The people in Emilia's domain aren't the other candidates' people. The candidates' knights and soldiers are their people, who will be sacrificed in a fight against the cult if they agree to help Subaru.

>>144315446
Reinhardt is the true hero of this show.

>>144315515
>>144315341
>>144314973

>there's a porn game with a girl who looks like Priscilla
>you get to mind-control her and rape her into submission
>It's been translated into english

Thank you, Japan.

>>144309849
Why are they all trying good give him political lessons and being ass holes instead of just helping him?


Also why did that bitch ask him to suck her toes then get mad when he did it?

>>144315565
Remember the part about them being royal candidates?

>chokes when trying to tell people he comes back in time after dying
>10 deaths later he decides to just tells what will happen

Jesus

>>144315335
>In reality, it's probably closer to a combination of both things
As in: in reality, a fireman probably saves people both because he wants to save lives AND be paid to do so.
>but if someone helped people solely for their own personal gain, it would be evil.
>SOLELY
Do you understand now, Timmy?

>>144315515
Doujins with her and her shota harem when?

>>144315533

I'm not talking about powers nigga. I'm talking about learning from mistakes and thinking before running his dullard mouth.

>>144315605
Can't blame the guy

>>144315484
What is your point? There is still no basis to trust Subaru about anything especially after what Anatasia mentioned how he already ruined his reputation right from the start and nobody will forget it. You would have to be as crazy as he is to believe a word of what he's saying.

>>144315605
He didn't tell them about his ability.

>>144314873
>be governor of state/rich ceo funning for president of country
>have influence over military and police, have own private well-trained security force
>some kid comes to you desperately asking for help because the next town over has an imminent terrorist attack and many civilians will die, including your political opponent in the electoral race
>refuse to even take him seriously because you dont like the cut of his jib, and he's annoying/had autism/smells bad

In real life a person like this would be universally despised by the entire country as a god damn selfish elitist snob and probably have their political career ruined (unless that person was Hillary Clinton but thats a separate discussion).

>>144315356
>Really, only Reinhardt would hear Subaru and try to help him.
This.

REINHARDT-SAMA FOR KING OF LUGUNICA 2016

>>144314659
Except they do.

>>144315565
They are trying to become the ruler of the nation.

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>>144315582
>>144315341
I want priscilla to step on my dick.

>>144315643
doujins of horny foot-licking when?

Concerning the morality of actions, it works something like this.

>Do a good action for a good cause: good
>Do a good action for a bad cause: Still good, but less so
>Do a bad action for a good cause: not explicitly evil, but misguided
>Do a bad action for a bad cause: evil

>>144315589
>Also why did that bitch ask him to suck her toes then get mad when he did it?
She doesn't want filthy peasant drool on her royal foot. She just wanted to humiliate him.

Priscilla probably has a lackey specialized in foot-licking for whenever she wants that.

>>144315646
His point is that Crush knows Subaru is telling the truth

>>144315689
What about shotas licking her feet?

>>144315411
He already started, by the end of the episode he came up with a new plan, made a deal with the merchants to relocate everyone but the whale ruins everything.

>>144315582
holy fuck link

>>144315705

Thank you.

How the fuck can people jump around trying to prove otherwise, when this is self-evident.

>>144315646
>they didn't think he was trustworthy
>one of them explicitly stated they thought he was trustworthy and refused to act
>what's your point, he isn't trustworthy
HURR DURR

>>144315688
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>>144315719
now this is some fine patrician taste

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>>144315605
>>10 deaths later he decides to just tells what will happen
He's done that before, remember when Ram and Roswaal got buttmad in the loop where Rem died due to the dog curse but Subaru couldn't explain how he knew anything?

>>144315705
Agree

>>144315736
>>144315688

It's called Saimin Kizoku.

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>>144315771

What was the deal with the old guy with the bandana? Why was Subaru the only one to see him or remember him?

>>144315674
I WANT TO SUCK REINHARDT'S HARD DICK.

>>144315582
This sounds amazing.

>>144315515
>>144315688
Thanks anons.

>>144315718
Even then there is nothing to gain from helping. He's asking for freebies from a rival. Actually they're not even rivals. Emilia isn't even considered a threat in the running. Nobody is going to vote for an elf.

>>144315753
Rem is so bad at twister

kek

>>144315831
probably he was a cultist

I'll lick Priscilla's feet for spoilers

>>144315831
It'll be explained but basically the whale consumes memories, only Subaru remembers

>>144315769
Calm down autist.

>>144315803

>It's real

Oh, yes.