>The end is approaching.
What did he mean by this?
I still love Kaname!
>>144125706
Who?
Please ignore the other thread. It was made before I saw a new one was already posted
WINDNIGGER GENOCIDE SOON
>>144125676
He mean:
>Mikumo will win Freyabowl
>>144125706
Definitely the best girl.
So, about that Splash Free ED featuring the Aerial Knights
>Keith is walking through the deserts of Al Shahal getting all thirsty and hot
>the other Knights are at the city and there is a water shortage
>meanwhile Roid is at Ragna doing government stuff
>the cut scene is the Knights at a Ragnan underwater club dancing like the fuccbois that they are
>the background dancers are VAR'd soldiers in BDSM suits
>back in Al Shahal, the Knights at the city board the Sigur Valens and fold to Ragna
>Roid is waiting for them and they go swim the Ragnan sea
>Keith finds his VF and folds to Ragna also
>he sees the knights swimming with Roid
>Roid's rune flash, he looks straight at Keith's VF and invites him to swim
>Keith strips down to his swimming trunks and skydive down to the sea
>>144125801
NUNSHIT GENOCIDE HAPPENING
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4063815498/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_api_2kMHxb5B84CCP
>>144125903
Another retelling? Boring.
>>144125801
>>144125887
How about neither
>>144125903
First tankobon of the straight adaptation manga? the one we haven't seen any scans of?
>>144125903
>No Mirage onthe cover
>>144126067
It's the ranobe.
>>144125881
Poetry
>>144126105
Ah.
>>144126081
Because she's not an MC. The good MCs are Hayate and Freyja. The bad ones are Roid and Keith.
Mirage appears as part of triangle because she's interested in Hayate, not because she's core to the plot.
>>144126081
Who?
>>144125881
I want this so bad.
>>144125881
Which Walkure has best style?
Reminder that Freyja is pure
>>144126166
>Twins had more dialogue in the last episode than in the whole series so far.
>>144126269
Mikumo hands down.
Freyja's a cute but no one can beat that shinpi allure.
>>144126269
Fashion style?
I'd say Kaname and Mikumo.
>>144126269
Mikumo hands down.
Mikumo's style is urban chic.
Freyja is teenage sweetheart
Kaname is casual adult
Makina is girly shoujo
Reina is emo-ish loli
>>144126298
HOI NA
>>144125887
>>144125979
How about fuck off
>>144125676
That the end is aproaching. Next!
Guys I just cracked the shipping code. God it's been shoved at us since episode 10 and we were all too stupid to see it.
It's said that when they declare their love under the jellyfish they're bound forever.
Freyja declared her love for singing
Hayate declared his love for flying
Endgame FreyjaxSongs
Endgame HayatexFlying
Bound forever. The true otps
>>144125801
Windermeme has alot of cute girls. I don't want them to die
Has this been posted before?
>>144126269
Mikumo.
I want a sweater like that.
>>144126764
Holyshit you're the true genius.
>>144126770
Here is one cute girl mixed with cute dude for you.
>>144126269
Mikumo and I don't even like her that much.
>>144126797
Yes
>>144126797
what does it say?
>>144126770
You should not going about conquering the galaxy if you didn't want your civilians to die
>>144125676
It means they've only got 8-ish episodes left before the show ends.
>people still think that in the end Delta and Knights will team up
Team up against who? I hope you understand that in the end we need to get epic battle with songs and shit. We need something like Alto vs Brera and Isamu vs Guld. Or at least fleet vs fleet SDF/DYRL style.
1) NUNS. Delta would not fight against NUNS because of few evil officers. Besides NUNS pilots are just fodder anyway.
2) Epsilon. Do they even have any forces?
3) Sigur Valens or sudden protoculture shit ala birdman. It would be lame.
Final battle should be Delta vs Knights.
>>144126838
Now we can stop fighting over the Hayatebowl. Bring out the fan art of MUH SONGS and MUH FLYING
Hayate having intimacy with his siegfried-chan.
Freyja having romantic encounters with song-kun.
>>144125676
I don't think I could handle seeing shota Bogue being told a NUNS attack killed his parents and three of his sisters.
>>144126851
Sorry but I've already chosen my favorite
>>144126997
11 episodes left to be accurate.
>>144126797
>Freyja is young and didn't really understand the independence war when it happened, which is why she can be so interested in the outside world. It's similiar to how the different generations in Japan view the world after www2
>Hayate is skilled boy who couldn't find what he wanted to do thus didn't stay with any one thing very long. He's a character who ought to be understandable for many young guys of this age. It's a story of him meeting Freyja who hurries to live and finding something.
>>144126851
Oh my. Is that aFuta?how very progressive.
>>144127087
When NUNS kills all filthy Knights and gets back to Windermere this cutie will become my personal breeding machine.
>>144126770
>Windermeme has alot of cute girls. I don't want them to die
There's quite a number of pregnant women in the audience
>>144127124
>Freyja is young and didn't really understand the independence war when it happened
This explains the difference between her and the Knights. Roid and Keith were 13 and 12 so they could grasp the war better, plus they were forced to fight against NUNS because Windermereans were being decimated. Bogue was her age but being a Knight and having more than half of his family killed also made a difference.
>>144127124
Oh thanks.
I've been wondering if perhaps female Windermereans don't age the same as male ones. In the Manga centered around the aerial Knights we see Heinz's mom. She's already patchy which is the sign of nearing your limit yet she doesn't look past 25.
>>144126532
You're gonna get Shirkoshied.
>>144127281
>Bogue was her age but being a Knight and having more than half of his family killed also made a difference.
We saw several flashbacks with Freyja standing against burning house. She probably lost someone too (especially since her parents are never mentioned in anime or manga). So it's Freyja's pacifism vs Knit's butthurt and revanchism. They have similar circumstances, yet Freyja managed to forgive humans. She wants everyone to live happily in peace. And that's the main reason Knights are wrong in this show, not because they do evil things, but because they don't see the path of peace and UNDERSTANDING. This is the message Kawamori tries to send us in Delta.
>>144127224
That cutie would break your dick off with her vaginal muscles. Windermere women are unrapable.
>>144127062
>Team up against who?
Probably the true enemy. There is going to be a giant thing that has to be stopped. It's happened in every series since DYRL
> I hope you understand that in the end we need to get epic battle with songs and shit. We need something like Alto vs Brera
I'm pretty sure Frontier TV and 7's final battle were "epic" enough without a rival battle
>>144127798
I'm not saying that you aren't right, but Keith and the rest of his squad went through different circumstances than Freyja that coloured how they perceive this war and the past one. Thus for now UNDERSTANDING doesn't come as easy to them when they had to see NUNS decimate their own forces and then blame them for a bomb that most likely wasn't used by Windermere but by someone else, whether it's NUNS or a third party.
>>144127909
She is Windermerian. They live only 30 years. It's part of their instinct to make as many babies as possible. They are unrapeable not because they are strong and can resist, but because they never refuse and thus it never can count as rape.
>>144128040
>I'm pretty sure Frontier TV and 7's final battle were "epic" enough without a rival battle
Can't you fucking read? "Or at least fleet vs fleet SDF/DYRL style." Frontier ended with fight against Vajra. It was basically fleet vs fleet battle with Vajra queen as special enemy.
>Probably the true enemy
Again, who? Epsilon suddenly pulling their own fleet out of nowhere?
>>144127798
“And those who, when tyranny strikes them, they defend themselves. And the retribution for an evil act is an evil one like it, but whoever pardons and makes reconciliation - his reward is [due] from Allah. Indeed, He does not like wrongdoers. And whoever avenges himself after having been wronged - those have not upon them any cause [for blame]. The cause is only against the ones who wrong the people and tyrannise upon the earth without right. Those will have a painful punishment. And whoever is patient and forgives - indeed, that is of the matters [requiring] determination.”
[Quran 42: 39-43]
>>144128326
Maybe hijacking the Sigr Valens with technology.
>>144128462
I'm not sure if Sigr Valens can be an enemy worth Delta + Knight combo.
>>144128462
>>144128566
>Hacking the Sigr Valens
Nah, they're gonna take of the mindcontrol ruin network the Windies have so helpfully set up for them.
Plus a reminder that so far we've only seen the one epsilon guy. He could just be a proxy agent or something. THey obviously have enough supplies to outfit the Windies for their war against NUNS anyway, so they're not completely without firepower.
>>144128844
>Nah, they're gonna take of the mindcontrol ruin network the Windies have so helpfully set up for them.
by taking the Sigr Valnes
Keith you little shit you're going to lose your brother and you'll have no one to blame but yourself.
>Ah, believe in me baby
>I'll forgive you in a chaotic climax
>>144128890
But in the last episode Heinz was singing from Windermere. I think it's the center of the network and not the ship.
>>144128566
Taking Sigr Valens = taking over mindcontrol network = having the entire mind controlled cluster going against Delta (immune) and the knights (also immune).
Final battle could be going against big bad + mooks while at the same time trying to disable the Valens and thus stop the mind control. Once Valens is down Walkure will cleanse the Var with their song and everyone is happy.
>>144125676
It means that Windermere is about to be razed to the ground.
>>144126269
w2c kumokumo sweater?
>>144125676
>What did he mean by this?
God fucking damn this has to be the most annoying meme I've seen in a long time. It's not funny in any way, shape or form, and the worst part is I see it on every single goddamn board.
>Evil Roid
The poster didn't lie then. Keith's injury will probably heal near the end too.
Keith is so fed up with Roid's shit. Now the question is, will Bogue side with his beloved Keith-sama and Mastah or will he side with Roid for the NUNS genocide?
>>144129650
forgot pic.
>>144129653
If Roid's side kills his Mastah I can perfectly see Bogue siding with Keith.
>>144129650
>huge Mirage
>the poster didn't lie
>>144129767
who?
>>144129650
So he'll regrow his lost eye?
>>144130007
That's much better. A++
If we're gonna dissect the poster, Hayate's body and pose are placed in direction towards Freyja, as if he's walking towards her. Also his necklace is shinning and pointing to her as well.
Sakura kawamori
>>144130304
*sasuga
>>144130162
The power of songs heals everything.
No seriously, I can imagine his eye healing after he finally abandons Roid's plan and sides with Chaos.
>>144130304
>>144130443
Kawamori does it again. Hayate and Freyja interacting, smiling at each other and doing the plane hand sign while Mirage watches.
>>144130362
So he'll regrow an eye? Who tf does Keith think he is regrowing organs? Eren Jaeger?
oh hey that other artist did do one today too
>loses depth perception
>gets even better
Sometimes Japan, I fear for your sanity
>>144130946
Runes ain't gotta explain shit
>>144130946
>relies less on his unreliable vision and more on his superhuman sixth sense
Of all the valid complaints you could make, this wasn't one of them.
>>144130830
Does this artist have a twitter? I need my daily dose of HayaFre
>>144131047
Then why even use eyes?
Although now that I recall, there was some nonsense about feeling the wind more or something.
>>144131063@glmin_delta
>>144131145
Because not everyone is as gud with the sixth sense as shirokishisama. Losing an eye forced him to use it more, and it works.
Your panties are way too much in a tight knot.
I approve. A++ fanart. Quality content
>>144130443
>>144130527
sasuga Kawamori
The world is a better place because HayaFre exists
At which episode was the series on when you guys began to watch? I arrived on episode 11. Just in time for all the Messer angst.
>Roid
>>144129650
I think the poster was to show that Keith and Roid were the most important of the Knights
>>144131848
I've been watching since 0.89
>>144131848
Since the preview. I've been waiting for my Freyja fix this since winter.
I was avoiding Macross because I'm not big on idol animes. Something about them just doesn't work for me. A few years ago I had given Frontier a go but gave up after the fuckery that was the Sheryl's panties episode.
Finally decided to give Delta a shot after I saw some gifs on Tumblr and was like "oh hey, that girl is pretty cute (freyja). I guess I'll give it a try" And I did. As soon as Freyja came on and started giving her inspirational speech on not giving up and thriving towards her dreams I WAS HOOKED.
>>144131848
Saw ep 1 + 2, then left for a little bit, then came back in time for all the buzz about ep 13 and marathoned the rest while waiting for ep 14.
>>144132021
>>144132073
Same waiting for more quality songs though.
>>144132301
Great job. Now go watch the rest of the franchise inbetween episodes
>>144132301
>gave up after the fuckery that was the Sheryl's panties episode.
Literally the best Frontier episode. A pleasant break from action and romance for some comedy and fanservice. I appreciate this episode even more now after that weak and bland attempt to achieve the same effect in Delta's episode 14.
The moment my heart pledged allegiance to HayaFre
>>144132301
Had you enjoyed Frontier up until that rather infamously poor episode? It's kind of a one off horror show. I'm saying you might want to consider trying it again. Or maybe just the movies instead. But then I'm again I'm just a huge franchise nerd who watched it all.
So, does anyone else want Hayate in a dress?
>>144133266
Don't think he can pull it off as well as Alto can desu.
Keith and Bogue on the other hand...
>>144131145
Probably because using their runes is hard work. Freyja's won't turn on unless there's imminent danger and poor Heinz is going to die before he gets to 15 at the rate he's using his.
>>144132694
>Sheryl's panties episode
>The best Frontier episode
>Not Episode 4
>Not Episode 7
>Not Zero tribute episode
>Not the final episode
Sheryl's panties episode was fucking cancer and it introduced a subplot of Sheryl going to Alto's school that didn't even go anywhere
>>144133442
>all episodes are about action and/or romance
What's hard to understand about "pleasant break from action and romance for some comedy and fanservice"?
>>144133266
Not quite it, but...
>>144133345
Heinz is the indisputed delta champion of that
>>144133591
>undisputed master
>>144130946
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_perception
>15 cues for depth perception available with only 1 eye
>only 3 additional cues with 2nd eye
>also one of those 3 (Shadow Stereopsis) is completely useless in space fight anyway
>>144133660
Heinz was made for the dick
>>144133660
This is how you could have successfully overthrown NUG Roid.
>Walkure's popularity plummets
>Chaos goes out of business
>Heidi brings in massive amounts of cash thanks to galactic otaku
>use her to promote apples and maybe throw some subliminal messages in her songs
With all these discussion going on and no one brings up the discussion on who actually is lady M?
>>144134278
They'll probably keep it in secret through the whole show
>>144126269
It's a tie between Mikumo and Reina. Makimaki's is cute though
Has anyone else started liking Reina more and more? I have, and it literally came out of nowhere.
Frontier - person behind SMS = Mr Butler
Delta - person behind Xaos = not gonna introduce?
For now we do not even what actually is lady purpose for forming Xaos and her ambitions while Frontier clearly introduces Mr. Birler's intentions
>>144134526
Birler** damm autocorrect
>>144126764
Damn. You might actually be on to something. I'm sure that means something
>>144134278
It's not really that important of an issue. It's someone with knack for being a politician or business dealer, and they have a lot of dosh, since Xaos is a rather recent, but highly valued fold communications company.
It's not gonna be Minmay, could be half a million alternatives from the Jenius clan, or just be someone new entirely.
>>144134278
>>144133537
Because it wasn't done well at all. Also, the animation was ugly as shit, you know that's the worst animated episode in the whole show
>>144134909
>>144134962
>>144134648
At least frontier introduces Mr. Border and his intentions so will be expecting lady M to be introduced. Furthermore, don't u think that all the members and protocols in Xaos are selected and made up by lady M with a purpose? We wouldn't be surprised to know that it is lady M that approves hayate to be part of the Delta before him even taking the exam. Lady M's actions is basically a mystery.
>>144135005
>>144135027
Mr. Birler** damn autocorrect
>>144135060
>>144135106
>>144135152
>>144135005
HAMBURGER
>>144135266
>>144135027
Arad handles all of Delta's recruitment as per the official glossary.
>>144128893
>cockroaches.jpg
>>144135474
STOP STOP STOP CANNOT FUCKING UNSEE
>>144134278
Most to least likely
Milia
Mylene
Some other Jenius
Mikumo
Minmay
Some undercover Protoculture with Mayan in their name
Mao
Misa
Random Bridge Bunny with an M name (there's lots)
Myung
Bobby
Lucy
Nanase
I think that covers just about every female with an M name.
>>144135322
Do you think they will give these two a shoujo manga adaptation with a happy ending?
>>144134909
>>144134962
>>144135005
>>144135060
>>144135106
>>144135152
>>144135266
>>144135322
fanartists are dicks ;_;
>There are still people who think smug Major doesn't have an obvious darker agenda
>>144135757
Major Balance ain't villain
>>144135757
You mean Valan or whatever it's his name? I'm more wary of him than of Berger so far.
Any kind soul out there that can translate?
>>144135027
Mr. Birler was not an underlying mystery of Frontier. It's not like they were mentioning this shadowy owner of Frontier the whole time, he just was in the background. Also after he's introduced, he's completely inconsequential to the story to the point that he's not even in the movies. It's not the same situation as from the way Delta has portrayed it, Lady M is supposed to be something of an enigma, she's even influencing certain events in the plot like assigning them missions and slowing down the time for the nuke to go off. What I'm trying to say is that it's not very comparable so saying "at least Frontier introduces Birler" isn't exactly right
>>144136025
>>144136025
uh.. tiny.. hurts my eyes.
>MakiMaki picked out a swimsuit for me
>Oh, freyja-chan that's cute.
>Oh?
Then Hayate is all like lecturing her on being careful or some such (like fuck i can't really tell with the kanji). Basicly the context seems to be that he's rather overprotective or possessive and covers her with his jacket and Chuck is like "Oh he's that kinda guy"
Freyjafags stop bullying miragefags. They barely post anymore, I feel bad for them. Have this miragefags
>>144136420
Nice try Freyjafag
>>144136420
Have some rare HayaMira fanart.
>>144136377
He's telling her she can't get a tan if she wants to be an Idol.
>>144136377
Thank you so much for the translation! :)
>>144136547
If you have anymore feel free to post it. I may push for Hayafre a lot, but I don't mind thisor MiraFre
>>144136420
If it wasn't for the whole "no fold receptors" thing, I would kill to see this happen. Heck, I'd want to see it happen even as a gag thing
>>144136557
Ah, that's what it was. Thanks.
>>144136781
Unfortunately they have very few fanart. I actually have more MiraFre and BogueFre than HayaMira.
>>144136880
Mirage should stop following Hayate everywhere and bond more with Makina. Resonating with her will make her stronger and help with her inferiority complex problems.
Ranka > Frejya
>>144136947
Who cares? They're both losers.
>>144136947
Sheruru > Ranka
is keith a gary stu?
>royal bloodline
>forsakes it to become a chivalrous knight
>beats everybody
>gets beaten by fold hacks, but automatically comes back stronger after losing an eye
>>144136360
Based on your justification, they should introduce Lady M tho
>>144136981
no because he's from windermere
>>144136925
MiraFre is ridiculously cute.
>>144136420
It's pics of someone OTHER than shinpi wearing her costume that makes me realise how lewd it acutally is.
All those nude scenes has goddamn desensitised me.
>>144136971
Mirage > all
>>144136880
>>144136781
MiraFre is the good shit
I always liked how since the 1st episode was all over protecting Freyja and worried for her safety. Sasuga atashi no otp
>>144136981
Windermere is Gary Stu: The Faction.
Heinz killed bajillions of Spacy through Var yet no one blames him because they're the fujoshit faction.
>>144137074
except Sheryl
You know, it's really unfair to mention Sheryl at all, because she is better than any other girl (except Basara) by a ridiculous amount.
>>144136947
>>144137150
>and then Freyjafags claim she's not Ranka and proceed to falseflag as Miragefriends posting /u/ garbage
Should be added to the collage.
To ranka overshoot there, what makes you to like her ?
>>144137248
Lovers out there***
>>144136981
>chivalrous
>Using terrorism and biological warfare
>Attempting to execute an unarmed prisoner
Too much cuteness
>>144135322
>Kaname with her hair down
>Kaname in comfy clothing in her bed
I want her
>>144137145
Give me Minmay over Sheryl. There's something about her flighty personality and girl next door qualities that I can't get enough of. Sheryl felt too much like a celebrity to me.
>>144136420
Just biding our time anon
>>144137485
She's grieving for her lost love you sick fuck
>>144137538
Hey I didn't say I wanted her in that situation/moment, I just want casual Kaname.
Then again, I'd comfort her in this situation aswell.
>>144137538
She didn't love Messer, you dumbass. She's in love with Freyja
Beach episode when? I want to see Walkure in swimsuits.
>>144137520
What do I think about Ranka? I find her character cute in Frontier especially her voice and the way she talks.
One thing I like about frontier is the writers are good at depicting disappointing moments. Example, Ranka's tv show got turned down and all she sees in the backgrounds are screens of sheryl's picture with the sad aimo ost. There are many more examples as well.
>>144135679
Cross Mikumo off the list. Episode 14 proved she has nothing to do with it. Mikumo summoned Kaname in order to gain information on the operation. Kaname, being the leader of Walkure, has more intel than Mikumo.
Mikumo even had a plan, and utilized Kaname to relay this plan to higher ups, rather than hearing about if from Lady M
>>144137003
Yes they should, I'm saying why it's taking longer
>>144137863
But anon, you must hate her because some fags thought she may have had a shot at the Altobowl. So you must hate her because she isn't Sheryl
>>144136947
State your claim because we may need to have an argument
Phoneposting is already a strike against you
>>144136503
Correction. Mikumofag and Reinafag
>>144137520
Sheryl is a radiant star, shining brighter than the sun itself.
And the only way for someone like her to go is down.
The inevitable fall and the way she manages to survive it are what make Sheryl so great.
And Sheryl can do the flighty fun girl next door better than anyone else, because she never loses her radiance.
It's less adoration and more admiration, really.
>>144137065
Mikumo is so lewd, we don't even notice what lewd is anymore. it's become natural.
>>144137213
Do you seriously just have nothing better to do than this?
>>144137518
One true paring of Delta. Can't wait until they transcend and become legends in Delta
>>144137957
Mikumo said she have a plan again Windermere when she talks to kaname in the dressing room. The plan mikumo mentions has not been executed yet right? I wonder what plan is it
>>144137520
Minmay fucking sucks
>>144137138
>no one blames him because they're the fujoshit faction.
When will this retarded meme stop? Delta has zero homolust.
>>144138229
that too
>>144138233
if you put your gogges on you quickly realize that Windermere is ridiculously gay, they might as well rename it the homo planet.
>>144137992
More like you must hate her because she's a terrible character.
>>144138306
Why is she terrible? State your reasons.
When Hayate made that stunt, against Mirage, based on the seacat in ep3, what was that a reference to?
>>144138306
It's been 8 years.
>>144138299
Even with goggles there really isn't anything. The closest thing I can think of is the Roid->Heinz<-Keith nii-sama bowl. Other than that nothing.
>>144138299
Even fujos disagree. I was expecting an explosion of Bogue/Keith art after the third chapter of the manga but there was none.
>>144138476
Since I don't own an actual pair of goggles, I'll have to use my imaginary goggles.
Here's what I see:
Roid x Keith
Roid x Heinz
Keith x Heinz
Bouge x Hayate
Bouge x Keith
Bouge x other Windermere pilots
Jesus christ. It's been 8 years. You Ranka and Sheryl fans need to calm down.
>>144138594
Please, there is no animosity between Sheryl and Ranka friends, because everyone knows thatSheryl is the best.
>>144138372
>pampered annoying brat
>needy and inmature
>throws temper tantrums
>retarded crush on Alto
>traitor
>looks and acts like a child
>ugly character design
>>144138444
Reina was such an upgrade from Ranka.
>>144137138
>Heinz killed bajillions of Spacy
And nothing of value was lost.
>>144138594
They're ridicilous bitter still
As a fujo I could see the appeal in:
Roid x Keith
Keith x Bogue
And as a yurifag I can see the appeal in:
Freyja x Mirage
Freyja x Mikumo
Doesn't mean I can ship them though, something about Delta doesnt appeal to my homoship tendencies. Delta is literally the first anime I've shipped het in the past 5 years.
>>144138535
Instead there was some loliBogue/Freyja fanart. Even fujoshi ship het or yuri in Macross.
>>144138766C-cute
>>144138766
Bogue/Freyja is 2cute4me.
>>144138476
Not that anon, but the knight squad's manga runs in a fujo magazine. They're more targetted towards females in general though.
>>144138747
I'm another fuji and I have got to agree with you. Macross is for the het mostly and some yuri. If I want some homo there are other series. I think what makes the het appealing in Macross is that I think the female character generally are a lot more interesting than those in other series.
>>144138594
Still Ranka and Sheryl is what made Frontier so popular. Both their characters and songs. Ranka is just there to ruin alto and sheryl's mood. Still ranka is better than walkure and minmay
>>144137248
I love every Macross girl. Ranka is great because she matures from someone with zero self confidence into someone with enough conviction to go against the entire colony to do what she feels is right. For better or worse she's an idealist, it loses her the bowl because Alto wasn't her prince on a white horse she imagined him to be but on the flip side she achieves UNDERSTANDING because she was the only one who knew what the Vajra really were and she knew fighting them wasn't the answer.
>>144138854
Agree. I wanted them to interact more and become friends.
>>144138854
Man where are you finding all the good Bogue/Freyja fanarts? Pixiv literally only has 2 and that's it.
>>144138898
>Still ranka is better than walkure and minmay
I completely disagree with both of those. The fuck is wrong with you?
>>144138944
Twitter. Pixiv is old and busted.
>tfw the knights get more bizarre het art than homo art with their peers
>>144138908
This. The fact that she was willing to do something Alto really, really didn't like was prove of how much she had grown up.
>>144138944
Twitter.
>>144139013
According to Twitter, Freyja is the town bicycle. Which is weird as the show isn't really like that at all. If you only saw the ship fanart, you would think Delta's a shojo
>>144138731
Nope he mind controlled most of the fleet. You dont suddenly die when you are vard you know.
>>144139043
Looking for old images in the future is going to be pain in the ass.
>>144138873
Inorite? Since there's so many female friendships in Delta I find myself constantly going "Oho, Mirage and Freyja would be cute. Heh, but Mikumo can teach Freyja many things." For some reason Mikumo/Freyja reminds be a bit about Shizuma/Nagisa from Strawberry Panic. Something about strong female characters does that to you. Or then again I could just be projecting my homo ass on them.
But at the end of the end I'm all about the HayaFre.
>>144139043
It'd be fun to see Delta's demographics. From twitter I gather that a lot of them are women.
Also, this one came from a fujo. See? In Macross they ship het.
>>144139098
meant to >>144139013
>>144138942
I bet they would have been good friends under other circumstances, same with Keith and Hayate. They are very similar.
I could understand if you were saying Movie Ranka because Ranka in the Frontier movies is a much better and more proactive character but you're telling me you think TV Ranka's good? Really? Like holy shit, Ranka in the show is so ridiculously annoying. Not like Mylene annoying but more like "what is she even doing here and being a main character" kind of annoying.
>>144138672
Still Ranka is as bad as you think compAred to minmay
>>144139112
I also like that Kawamori gives zero fucks about muh purity, harems and having female characters be completely devoted to the main lead, unlike in other series. For example, part of Ranka's character development in the series was getting over her crush on Alto, and it's confirmed she married someone else once an adult.
>>144139215
My jaw literally dropped when I first saw that scene in the manga. Man fuck the NUNS for making sweet shoutas suffer.
>>144139215
I still have hope that Bogue will become friends with Freyja and the rest of WalkureI-I can dream, right? ;_;.
>>144135701
They saved Michael from Frontier in the movies and manga, maybe there's still hope for Messer.
>>144138731
REMOVE WINDERMERE
>>144139040
>>144137248
Finally someone spoke up for Ranka! See ranka is a decent character after all! She is likable, her songs were nice and her charActer serve purpose to the story
>>144139303
War turned their wings white wings black. The metaphore is not the most original one but it works.
>>144139359
Dere bogue when ;_;
>>144139150
Well like they say, it's Macross Precure. Of course it's going to appeal more to the female crowd, and by that I mean the ones who aren't fujoshi
>>144138859
>Messer and windtwin
I do not approve
>>144139298
Wasn't it implied that in the end Ranka ends up with her bro?
>>144138055
Sheryl had her fun moments. The date episode was great, but no one can match Minmay in terms of flightiness. One moment she's having an intimate conversation with Hikaru and two minutes later she's like "Hikaru? Oh yeah that pilot guy he exists I guess." Her kind of being 100% in the moment attitude does it for me.
>>144138202
She knows that Walkure can overpower Heinz, and that Windemere only has one wind singer. One possible plan is to remove the wind singer, for example by luring the knights away and then kill or kidnap Heinz.
Another is to remove the control over the ruins, but I'm not sure if Mikumo knows how to do it.
>>144139504
>her songs were nice
Yeah I'm going to disagree with this hard. I only liked Seikan Hikou out of her songs. Niji-iro Kuma Kuma was okay I guess. Everything else I've pretty much forgotten except for Aimo because the show wouldn't let me
>>144139233
Not as annoying as minmay tho.
>>144139528
We got sad Bogue instead. His expression here >>144125676 really hurt. Fuck NUNS.
>>144139544
>Well like they say, it's Macross Precure.
Can we seriously still think of it like that at this point?
>>144139590
In Sheryl's manga they imply they are dating.
>>144139661
What about my star?
My boyfriend's a pilot?
>>144139759
Sheryl
Minmay
>>144139795
There is a ranka version for that. She even sang DYRL, the legendary song
>>144139865
that doesn't change that dyrl is minmay's song.
Sheryl > walkure, in terms of characters and songs agree?
Best Ranka songs
Seikan Hikou
Anato no oto
Blue Ether
Niji iro KumaKuma
Hokagou Overflow
Hoshi Kira
>>144139922
well yeah.
Walkure is just discount Sheryl plus four.
>>144139951
For some reason I really like Sou Da Yo.
>>144125676
Bogue a shit
>>144139951
Finally someone spoke up for Ranka!!!
>>144128040
>every series
7.
This team up stuff is stupid. Nobody wants it with the way the series is being developed now.
>>144140039
Twitter disagrees with you.
You think a Hayate wakes up every morning, brushes his hair and is like "wait, gotta put my 5 inch hair clip in"
>>144139922
May'n's voice ain't that great so I disagree.
>>144139951
>nop
>maybe
>good taste
>good taste and animation
>nope never
>nop
soudayo & song bird are patrician taste
PD Sheryl best girl
>>144141337
Her songs are still top notch. Unlike walkure just relying to computerized beat music.
>>144141497
I'm talking about her voice, not her songs.
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20160713-00039819-exp-musi
Walkure Attack beats Dreams Come True in overall album sales once downloads are factored in.
Walkure stronk.
>>144139922
well, JUNNA is young and have a amazing voice
Minmay's best songs!!
Silver moon, red moon
Tenshi no enogu
0G love
My boy friend's a pilot
Sunset beach
DYRL
One more I forgot..
I have to say that minmay's songs and her voice is one of the things which made SDF memorable . Especially silver moon, red moon which is alwAys played in the series. Tenshi no enogu somehow gives me a sad feeling about it. DYRL is legendary
>>144141714
Implying walkure cannot survive without junna. Might as well made it solo instead
>>144139922
May'n voice comes nowhere near close to JUNNA's
>>144141497
And May'n relies on auto-tune because her ass can't sing. Her songs are awesome though, but only because of her composer
>>144139951
I literally only cares to remember two of those
>>144140494
7 has Gepelnitch turning into a black hole as the giant thing that needs to be stopped
>>144141497
Oh please. Both May'n and Walkure have perfectly worthwhile songs. Except Walkure being a group can do into multiple kinds of songs that sound different from rank other. May'n's songs as Sheryl are one particular type of music
>>144141826
Bullshit. The point is that they are a group. Minor in has a great voice too. Actually just based on Axis alone, I would say if Mikumo had the most powerful voice, Kaname has the most soulful
>>144141609
Was download sales a thing when F was airing?
I guess no one here appreciates minmay's song and her voice? Since no one is discussing about her.
>>144125852
Vagina bones like those should be illegal
>>144142919
There isn't too much to argue about because 80s j-pop is different from current. I like her songs well enough
>>144142143
He was more or less self-destructing and wasn't being presented as a common enemy. More like Basara was trying to save him. The closest thing to a "team-up" was Sivil helping Basara out.
I don't like the idea of having to make a third enemy faction just for the sake of getting two sides to fight alongside each other.
>>144126269
m'esser
>>144137134
Best white knight
>>144143134
It's just wet dream of windfags who want their pretty boys to end unpunished for all the crimes they did.
>>144143716
But that's gonna happen regardless. Though at least half of them will die
>>144143716
Is Delta your first Kawamori show? Assholes, villains and antagonist get away scot free all the time.
What the hell did Hayate's dad do.
inb4 dropped the bomb
>>144144354
Hebanged Hayate's mom
>>144144354
He cheated on his wife with a Windemerian who would go on to give birth to Freyja
>>144144354
>deserted
But then soldier was kinds overreacting. Besides not enought drama for Hayate
>defected
But then where is he now?
>caused the war
Even though windies were already displeased with NUNG they needed some kind of sparkle. Hayate's dad raped some girl and angry windies started the rebellion.
>he wanted to prevent some evil NUNS operation and stole fold quartz (now in Hayate's necklace) required for it. He was obviously declared as traitor.
Eh.
I seriously don't think he dropped the bomb. That's very "squishy" plot twist. But on the other hand I can't come up with any good alternative.
>>144144065
I haven't watched Logos, but in one of the recent Kawamori shows, more than half of the antagonists were wiped out. Some were killed in battle and some offscreen, then their king turned them into zombies before biting the dust.Ouiii, mon empresss..
>>144144065
>Fudo
Still mad. That cuntbag deserved to die, not a happy ending with his lover.
If I cum on a Windermerian's runes does this show total dominance over them?
>>144144766
>That's very "squishy" plot twist.
What does that even mean
>>144133660
MY DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!
I wish to lick the Makinas
>>144138908
>Ranka
>mature
She didn't, even Kawmori admitted that Ranka was still very much a child at the end of Frontier tv series. In fact that's why her personality was changed in the movies. She gained more confidence but she didn't mature. Also tv series Ranka thought that she still had a chance with Alto.
>>144136781
MiraFre is adorable.
>>144145799
I want to eat Makina'scotton candy
>>144145824
So basically, like everybody thought Movies>TV series
>>144145666
It means it's easy to fuck up the story with plot holes. People argue about possible explanations on how and why he bombed Windermere for 3 days already and they still can't bring up a single solid theory.
Also for some reason nips think that children are responsible for parents crimes. Not legally, but from thhe point of social perception. And it can make father-son drama look completely retarded for western viewer. It still hurts a little when I remember how the same drama ruined Penguindrum.
>>144146185
Essentially, it's really Movie Ranka, Kiss in Galaxy Ranka>Every Ranka based off of tv series.
>Immelman learns about his dad, mirage tries to talk to him
>"what would you know about it, your parents were both great people, everyone hates my dad. Go away"
>"I'm glad we patched things up between us. You're my best friend now. I'll brb, freya just jumped off the ship again. I need to go make love with her "
>>144146323
>implying Freyja is getting out of the imoutozone
>>144146288
I posted my (what I thought was very logic) theory and nobody even farted my way
Hayate's dad was part of nuns, special ops. Travels around a lot, always on secret missions. While he was stationed in Windermere he meets baby Freyja and gives her the music player. He ends up finding out about the NUNS plans to nuke the winds and thinks about deserting/exposing them. But before that he confides in Arad in secrecy. Arad tells him not to do anything rash, that he could get himself killed. Somewhere along the line Hayate's dad gets discovered that he knew the NUNS secret. So they threaten him. Hayate's mom is a military nurse so they have easy access to her and Hayate is just a kid. Basically now Hayate's dad is put to the test. They force him to throw the bomb or they'll torture his family. So he does so. Throws the bomb against his wishes because he wants to protect his family. But he knows that the NUNS won't let him escape so easily now that he knows how evil they really are and what they're capable of. So to hide what he knows and to ensure that his family won't be in any danger, he crashes his plane and that's the fire that we see in Baby Freyja's flashback as she's holding the music player. If he's dead the secret dies with him and the NUNS see no reason to pursue his family. Arad puts two and two together and leaves the NUNS and joins Chaos instead.
The NUNS tell all the others that were stationed one Windermere that Hayates dad nuked the winds. So they framed him.
>The NUNS carried out their experiment
>Made Hayate's dad do the dirty work unwillingly
>Their secret is safe bc Hayate's dad is dead/sacrificed himself to keep his family safe
>They framed Hayate's dad to make him be the bad guy
>Special ops blame Hayate's dad for all their comrades who died which would explain why that guy Hayate saved was all like What are you doing with that man's son.
>>144146409
>Hayate teases Freyja about her rune, something he already knows is very sexual
>People still implying Hayate treats her like an imouto
Clearly I've been treating my sisters wrong all this time.
>>144146580
I thought everyone sexually molested their imoutos?
>>144131848
The pv, I like Macross.
>>144146696
Only sick fucks do that. Jesus christ.
>>144146288
>Also for some reason nips think that children are responsible for parents crimes. Not legally, but from thhe point of social perception.
Why do you think it is only the Japanese? The entire China and Korea is still doing that with the Pacific War.
>>144146413
I could copy paste the same answer you got previous time, but I'm too lazy to search through archives. In the end I will end making same arguments every time because no one reads previous threads.
Actually, I will ask it again for millionth time.
>So he does so
He threw it on NUNS forces.
And if Arad knew everything why didn't he expose NUNS crimes? He is protected by Chaos now, it's not like NUNS can shut him up. Arad looks like a honest guy who wouldn't let the truth to be buried. He could clear the name of his friend and prevent the whole war.
>>144146288
>Also for some reason nips think that children are responsible for parents crimes. Not legally, but from thhe point of social perception. And it can make father-son drama look completely retarded for western viewer
Okay first of all, how is that the show's problem? Second, doesn't that say more about the perception of the outside looking in than it would about the show itself?
Third, people have been spitballing theories this entire time. You or at least some people in here have been super autistic about it by screaming "NO NO, THAT CAN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE X" when all we are doing is posting theories, you know, speculations? Thoughts? General predictions on the direction without calling direct attention to it based on our own personal opinions?
>>144146807
Arad never brought anything to light because he figured that Windermere wouldn't retaliate (I mean they did nothing for 7 years). The NUNS put everything under the blanket and moved on. Arad thought it'd be better to keep quiet about everything. If he said anything his life would be in danger and another war would break out. A war would mean even more innocent lives would be wasted. So he kept quiet.
Years later he ends up meeting Hayate and Freyja and that's why he thinks "Looks like fate bound Hayate Immelman and the Windermere"
>>144146764
>>144126770
It's really weird for me watching this show when I live not far from somewhere called Windermere.
>>144146950
The lake?
>>144146696
Holyshit. You're not hentai anime protagonist.
>>144146889
>If he said anything his life would be in danger
That's why I said he is under Chaos protection. He doesn't look like a coward who would be afraid of such things.
>and another war would break out
How? Windies already think that NUNS did it. This reveal would change nothing for them. Actually if NUNS officers responsible for it were punished it would calm Windies and would prevent the war.
Your theory is acceptable only if Arad is a coward who doesn't care much about his friends, truth and world peace.
>>144146696
It's fine to molest cousins. But your own sister? Disgusting.
>>144147069
That's the one.
>>144147081
My thoughts exactly. I hope anon's theory ain't true cuz that'd mean Arad is a sleazy coward.
>>144147081
I do think another war would have broken out for the mere fact that organizations would retaliate against the NUNS. Plus, the world thrives around stealing other people's weapons and research. They'd start bombing each other to get their hands on the potential information that the NUNS would have.
Plus, if you have fake peace why throw it all to hell and stir shit up. Hayate's family was probably told that his father died in combat or smt. All the people that were involved in the windies incident were sworn to secrecy.
So then logic would push Arad to not do anything.
At least those are the actions I would think are the best course.
>>144146879
>all we are doing is posting theories, you know, speculations
And other people post arguments against these theories. That's all part of speculation.
>>144147295
Cont.
Also, if Hayate's dad sacrificed himself to keep his family out of trouble, why would he expose what happened in the past. You know people are stupid and would still say "YOUR FATHER KILLED PEOPLE, HE COULD'VE DENIED HIMSELF"
You people need to get off your high horses. Not everything in morality is so black and white. Shit is gray af.
Be honest, /a/. Which ships do you ship?
>>144147510
Hayate/Freyja
>>144147295
Your whole post is beyond retarded. You have no idea what NUNS is and how it works.
>that organizations would retaliate against the NUNS
Which organizations? What are you even talking about?
>the world thrives around stealing other people's weapons and research.
Whay? The whole galaxy is in single fucking alliance.
Imagine that it's revealed that American army did some beyond terrible war crimes in Iraq. Would it end in a war? No, just lots of generals will be arrested. There won't be any war, soldiers won't be protecting those generals if they are proven criminals. There would be still lots of other generals left to replace them.
>>144147387
Because protection and changing identity doesn't exist.
>>144147650
It's just a theory bro. Calm the fuck down. This is why a lot of people don't even like to participate in the discussions anymore. You're taking the fun out of speculating and throwing theories around.
It's alright to not agree with it and even point out inconsistencies but it's not ok to act like a total asswipe.
We get it. You take your anime seriously. Just don't be such a jerk about it. Some of us are actually trying to have a good time.
Personally, I can't wait until Mikumo makes her big reveal. I hope it's glorious. I hope she does her nude routine for it.
Reminder that Mirage is Zessica 2.0
>>144147510
HayaFre
>>144147510
I ship only the best!Arkos
>>144147892
I wish Mirage was this hot.
>>144147820
If you don't want to argue you just don't respond.
If you want to post retarded things but don't want to be called a retard then you should try a different site.
>>144147510
Kaname/Messah
>>144148038
You must be real fun as company.
Anyway, just enjoy your things your way and I'll enjoy things my way. I think we can both agree on that. Have a good day.
>ring finger in front
Can people actually do this? I don't even get close, whereas with the middle finger at the front it's really easy.
>>144148665
Shinpi is not Human
Right OK. I know this is disgraceful but has anybody seen any Macross body pillows yet?
>>144149039
*Delta ones
>>144148665
It's mysterious, isn't it?
>>144149039
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Anime-Macross-Deruta-Freyja-Wion-Dakimakura-Case-Hugging-Body-Pillow-Cover-/172220099909
I searched around but so far there are only Freyja and Mikumo ones
>>144149483
Best girls.
>>144147510
Well definitely not that one because it's insane and ridiculous at this point
>>144149483
Ohgod, FreFre so cute, yet so sexy
>>144149795
But they look cute together.
>>144126269
mikumo is love
I want to fuck her till her belly bursts
>>144129021
why would you use her
what a fucking sluti want to fuck her
>>144130527
>inb4 freyja is hayate's daughter from the future. >Mirage is not the mother.
>>144131154
What a shitty drawing
They didnt even make hayate suck her rune
>>144137538
>rebound sex
only plausible solution
>>144137764
bitch shes in love with me fuck off
>>144136420
h-holy fuck that cute
>>144137538
>implying
She was never in love withnhim and is grieving for a comrade. A perfect situation for comfort sex.
>>144144667
that would have been a crazy plot twist
>>144136420
Hayate is such a homo
Does anyone know the song from the very first episode that hayate is dancing to? There is no info on it.
>>144150217
I like this one. The artist is both talented, and has good ideas.
are you guys ready for freyja's rune pika?
>>144150317
Literally wtf
>>144150854
It's Jiritick Beginner.
>>144144667
>cheated on his wife with a Windermerian
He's just helping out with their population crisis
>>144150854
It's JiritikkuBeginner. Third song from the Walkure Attack album.
>>144151057
I wish this was a bigger meme.
>>144151508
Delta isnt popular enough to produce memes.
I think the Windermeians are the worst part of the show.
MIRAGEFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>144151842
They're fujobait that's why the show tries to make them sympathetic and fails hard in every way
If they were just regular pretty boy enemies fujoshits would complain that Delta is just another Gundam
>>144151905
Who?
>>144150317
WUT
>>144151822
Why?
Are you guys starting to like the new OP song more now?
>>144151941
We already told you that they are not fujobait, retard.
>>144152104
It's not bad. But doesn't have nearly the same impact as OP1.
>>144152136
Why have pretty boy knights like that in their fancy uniforms if they're not for rotten girls? They are.
I just realized all those shitposts saying Hayate is gay are true. What kind of straight guy gets on a robot/jet plane and proceeds to dance? The fuck man.
>>144152328
As a gay guy, Hayate triggers my gaydar. Look at his non-sexual friendship with the girls. There's been other little things here and there too.
>>144152195
>what are non fujoshi girls
Delta has zero homolust, no close male friendships, no passionate bonds between men. There's nothing for fujos in Delta. Like some anons said before, even the girls who are usually into homo don't ship homo here, they are into the straight pairings.
>>144152540
Well, that may be the reality, But that doesn't mean that the original design wasn't for fujos. Didn't someone say that knights manga is published in a rotten girl magazine? You're wrong to say they're not for fujos.
>>144152670
>But that doesn't mean that the original design wasn't for fujos
Character designs, you mean? What the hell is a fujoshi character design?
Just give up. The show has zero fujobait and zero fujo following. Even 7 had more homolust than Delta.
>>144153034
7 was gay, but manly gay.
>>144152045
If you look anywhere online, the attention being given to is odly pretty minimal. It hasn't become "big". Shows like Re Zero on the other hand are stealing the thunder. That's what it feels like to me.
>>144152104
SQUEEZE ME is cute but it's still disappointing compared to OP1. The reused footage makes it even worse.
>draw pretty boys
>give those pretty boys some screentime
>try your hardest to make them "not as bad" villains
>NO THEY'RE NOT FUJOSHIT STOP
Sure, and Quattro Bajeena is not Char Aznable.
>>144153034
Now that I think of it, not even the magazine spreads are gay.
>>144152517
Yeah. As a bisexual female, he does kinda activate my gaydar a bit. The way he was so hung up on Messer always seemed a bit odd to me. Like I got where he was coming from but yeah...
Oh well. Here's to hoping he's at least bi and will show an interest in the female body. MUH HAYAFRE SHIP
>>144153390
Do you know what fujos are? It's not about being handsome or appealing to women. It's about male characters being fags. Wanting to suck each other's dicks. Fujoshi are women who like GAY FUCKING.
>>144153390
Not as bad pretty boys villains are automatically fujoshit now? The fuck am I reading.
Look at this pic, this is fujobait.
>>144153526
Why is Gamlin being hugged by blond Micael?
>>144153526
Another example of Kawamori fujobaiting. Now tell me if Delta has something that looks like the Cayenne/Shrade scenes or this one.
>>144153142
Re:zero is a literal death trap for normies.
They will shit themselves watching it.
>>144151320
holy fuck thanks
I've been a fujoshi for the past 7 years of my life and I can safely say that Delta has 0 fujobait. There's not really any bromance that awakens my fujo senses.
A lot of the time it doesn't even have to be about pretty boys. Fujo shipping is mainly about chemistry between male charas. Some shows are great for this, others aren't.
Like shingeki no kyojin for example. That is full of fujobaiting and the producers know it. We're all over that shit slutting Levi and Eren and all the others.
Delta just doesn't work when it comes to BL tones. It works great for Yuri though so that's a huge plus for me although my main ship is HayaFre.
>>144153526
Best bromance ever.
>>144153869
>That is full of fujobaiting
>Levi and Eren
What the fuck am I reading. The only fujobait is anime-only Jean and Marco and he's dead
>>144154044
Bro. Have you not seen the official anime art that gets released? Full on Levi/Eren fujobait.
LeviEren is great bc the way we fujoshis see it is Levi is this awkward mess of a OP soldier who can't properly express himself but he gradually warms up to Eren and cares for him as his superior. And then you have Eren who has idolized Levi and now Levi is his mentor who has been entrusted with his life.
JeanMarco is good but Marcos dead so I can't ship that.
Many ship Bert/Reiner but Bara isn't my thing.
Don't even get me started on Erwin/Levi. Just no. Never in a thousand years.
Anyway. My point remains. No fujo shipping in Delta.
>>144153869
Yeah about yuri, I always feel lesbian vibe from Mikumo when she interacting with Freyja.
>>144153869
Do the fujos really like the Tales of series? I see that get said a lot.
>>144154281
Mikumo/Freyja reminds me a bit of Shizuma/Nagisa from Strawberry Panic. Mikumo is like Shizuma, the older onee-san type that is mysterious but oh so alluring with a dark mysterious past. And then Freyja is Nagisa, the genki innocent Kouhai who admires the onee-san senpai and is very intrigued to know more about them.
We yurifags now.
>>144154538
Mak/u/ros/u/. Macro/ss/ when?
>>144154488
>Sorey/Mikleo tag on Pixiv
>1517 results
And a lot of artists don't post on pixiv anymore. Fujos love Tales of.
>>144154488
Let me tell you something. If an anime has cute male charas, strong male bonding/bromance, uniforms/armor the chance that we're gonna be there shipping is 99.9%. Boys being bromantic with other boys is what really gets us going.
So yes. The answer is yes.
>>144154256
I don't know about promoart, the story itself isn't gay. Eren and Levi haven't grown close or anything. Mikasa is the endgame. Reiner and Berthold are both into girls.
Funny you should dismiss Erwin and Levi though, I forgot to mention it's the only other thing that counts as fujobait now that it seems like Levi's gone half-crazy over him or something in the latest updates.
In any case Shingeki no Kyojin is false fujobait, since those arts you talk about don't resemble what's actually happening in the story. I wonder why didn't Delta try that, it could have lured in a few fujos who'd end up looking it anyway.
>>144154827
You just don't understand the fujoart, my friend. We don't see the gay potential with our eyes, we see it with out hearts. Also I hate Erwin/Levi, don't utter that nonsense in my presence. I will never understand that ship nor do I want to.
Mikasa isn't Endgame. That's a true imoutozone if I ever saw one, not like the Freyja imoutozone Miragefags insist on.
If Delta were to fujobait I could see it with Roid/Keith. Bogue wouldn't work because he's too annoying and doesn't have that BL appeal.
>>144154827
>I wonder why didn't Delta try that
Because even Animage, a female oriented magazine, has Walkure spreads and posters. Walkure strong.
>>144155028
>Also I hate Erwin/Levi
Why? Strangely it's one fujo ship I can find acceptable, which is rare. They're friends who trust each other. Eren/Levi in comparison makes no sense at all. Eren is a kid and scared of Levi while Levi is 30+ and made a squad just to emotionally torture Eren into waking his powers. It's creepy.
>>144155126
I won't complain. Mikumo's swimsuit was god-tier.
>>144155028
Not the anon you are replying to but funny that you dismiss Erwin/Levi when is supported by the canon story more as a relationship development (not romantic but from the ones that is actually developed) when Levi/Eren has only fujobait promo art that it was only during the anime time.
Not to say you can't dislike/hate the pairing but if you go by canon standards in how the story represents relationships, then Erwin/Levi has more potential.
Anyways, as also a fujo I didn't see any bait here besides Keith/Messer but that was on the crack side because
>Muh Shiro Kishi
>Muh Shinigami
There could be fujovibes from Roid/Keith because they are childhood friends etc. but really Delta is a free fujobait territory 90% of the time.
I like my Hayate/Freyja and Mikumo/Freyja.
>>144155418
Hayate/Freyja/Bogue would have been better. Mirage is alright but she just can't compete. At least Bogue is fun to watch.
>>144155358
>>144155418
I've never liked Erwin. He's too manipulative. He wouldn't hesitate to sacrifice anyone as long as he reaches his goal. Whether they be his subordinates, or his friends, Erwin is all about the bigger picture and won't stop until he gets what he wants. I could never ship someone like that. I may be fujo trash but I have standards.
On the other hand Levi while awkward is a caring person. He's "squad members first, bigger picture after". Levi didn't form a squad just to torture Eren, it was to protect him and at the same time supervise him. And if you want to be technical, all the trials and experiments Eren has gone through have been because of Erwins orders. Levi has pushed Eren to persevere, but has never forced him. He's all "You make your own choices" and he comforted Eren (in a very Levi way) when Petra and all the others died.
Frankly im all about letting Erwin kick the bucket and having Armin be the one to survive.
But back to Delta. Keith/Messer is good too. But Roid/Keith has more potential.
>>144155751
Also. Forgot to post this. Yeah Eren may be 16 but I have my line pretty blurry. If you're old enough to be in the Military, kill titans and be ready to die, then you're old enough to accept if you want a dick up your ass. But to be fair, when I ship Eren/Levi I ship it in an AU sense where Levi and Eren are closer in age and not killing titans.
I'm a huge sucker for reincarnation AU's.
>>144155524
Would Bogue act tsundere towards Freyja?
>It's not like I hate your or something b-but I don't like your music, you hear me?
I agree it would be more fun to watch with Bogue's reactions.
>>144155751
That's fine. I can see why you don't like Erwin and it's one of the reasons I don't to. I was just saying that by the story standards an Erwin/Levi thing is more canon that Levi/Eren because of their history and relationship.
Each to their own at the end. I don't really care about shipping in Shingeki anymore as I have lost interest in the story.
For Keith/Messer they could totally pass it because pilots who have an obsession with each other and are enemies but they never did.
With Roid is your usual childhood friend thing which is pretty cute in the manga thus far. They have a history and all but they never push it as well.
So I go for Hayate/Freyja mostly here.
I am sure Freyja can win the Hayatebowl but you never know. I don't dislike Mirage but I can't help but see how small her connection to Hayate is in contrast with Freyja's, so if she wins the Hayatebowl without any significant character and relationship changes, I call bullshit.
>>144155751
Erwin's goal, to find the truth, is beneficial to humanity. Whatever his goals Erwin worked hard as a proper Commander and is wracked by guilt anyway. He also gave up on all of his dreams fight for the greater good. And all the people who died fighting under him chose to do so after he told them the grim reality of fighting titans.
Protecting and supervising Eren was supposed to be what the squad was for, but the chapter clearly showed his intentions weren't kind. Armin himself questioned why them when there were others more skilled for the task. All the experiments and trials Eren has gone through were necessary for figuring out his powers and Hanji was the one directing the specifics, but the only time where emotional scarring was involved to make Eren improve was Levi's independent decision.
>>144155946
He's still 15.
I'm fascinated by the way you seem to think. It reminds me of Rankafags insisting the end was open when Sheryl was the obvious winner. Want to make a Shingeki no Kyojin thread we can take this discussion to?
>>144125676
I know I'm late to the party but wow, what a shitty opening, its just a slideshow.
Its trash. Someone tell me they just didn't have the new one ready in time and threw a bunch of random shit together instead.
>>144156407
I keep hoping it's just temporary though I know it's not.
>>144156146
>I'm fascinated by the way you seem to think. It reminds me of Rankafags insisting the end was open when Sheryl was the obvious winner.
Come on now. My way of thinking may be a bit odd but I'm in no way what you describe me as. While I accept what I ship, I do realize there are limits and that certain things won't happen. Im perfectly aware when a ship has actual canon potential and when a ship only has potential in my mind. I've been doing this whole shipping thing since I was 11 so after almost 14 years I know when and how to pick my battles. I ship what I like and I enjoy it regardless of whether it can happen or not.
I'd take you up on the making a thread offer but it's almost 1 am here and I'm tired af. Maybe some other time. :)
>>144156894
I don't think that because of your ship, but because you said Erwin will do anything to achieve his goals and won't stop, when he very clearly gave up his life and goals for the greater good in the last chapter I read. He also told everyone to leave him behind when he lost his arm.
And you said Levi formed his squad to protect Eren. While that was what this squad was supposed to be for, and they had more suitable soldiers to do that as stated by Armin, Levi very clearly said his intentions were to force Eren into waking his powers out of desperation for his friends' lives.
Those are facts but you seem to ignore them.
>the state of this thread right now
It must be Thursday because we've obviously ran out of things to talk about. At least you homo lovers are civil.
>>144142919
Minmay's songs and voice were awesome in the 80's. Sadly Mari Iijima voice havent aged so well...
>>144157208
See that's the thing. I'm going to assume you're talking about the chapter where Erwin and the rest of the of the scouting legion rode into their deaths to distract the ape Titan. Erwin clearly stated that he didn't want to do it. That he knew the logic thing was to sacrifice himself and the others to create an opening for Levi. Yes Erwin is manipulative and yes Erwin is always willing to go to lengths no one would ever go to just to achieve something. From my pov everything with him is about sacrifice to reach an end. And in that situation he realized that his sacrifice was necessary. That's the scary thing about Erwin. As for him shouting for his subordinates to leave him behind, that was because he had lost all hope. Maybe he thought none of them would make it or he did hold on to that whole "the end is what matters" ideology. I don't find morality to be a thing Erwin concerns himself with. He'll sacrifice anything to achieve an end result, even if that includes himself. It's been stated by Levi and other characters that Erwin is insane and most do not agree with his plans but at the end of the day Erwin has a goal.
As for the Eren matter. Yes Levi created the squad to "force eren to awake his powers" but if I recall correctly Eren himself was on board with the whole thing of awakening and experimenting in order to have a better grasp of his powers and increase their chances of winning.
Morality and perception of a situation is a weird thing, isn't it?
>AoT discussion
>Shipping shit
>Fujos blogging
What happened to this thread?
>>144158977
It turned into a general.
>>144147510
HayaFre and MesaKana. And yes I'm aware that shipping the latter one is basicly wishing for Kaname to be heartbroken at this point. But maybe it can carry over to the movie
>>144159415
>shipping for losers
>>144159440
well at least im not alone
>>144159551
We are not alone, and our ship won't sink for it is a Ghost ship.
>>144159889
What if Kaname dies too? Then you'll really have something to ship.
>>144159919
then they'll be reunited
Are u guys nuts or something? It will never be HayaFrej in the end. Why?
In SDF, Minmay was obviously supposed to be with Hikaru with all the screentime, development and other possible shit but in the end Hikaru ended up with Misa.
In frontier, Ranka Lee was obvious to have the highest chance to be with Alto but in the end the whole scenario fucked up and Alto ended up with Sheryl.
Now in Delta, shippers say Haya will be with Frejya because of "muh song and muh pilot resonance shit" plus the amount of screen time Haya gets with Frejya. Obviously in the end will be both Mirage and Hayate.
The obvious cycle continues bois. Just you wait and face it. Admit Mirage will win the bowl in the end.
>>144159889
Arad/Kaname will happen.
>Hayate's dad dropped the bomb/was made to/was framed, whatever.
>Disgusted with his dad, Hayate throws away the fold quartz, not knowing what it does.
>Next time Freyja sings, Hayate doesn't resonate without the quartz, shocking them both. Cue drama of both blaming themselves for making it not work
>Mikumo defects. Cue more drama with walkure split apart. Leads to first real idol showdown in Macross.
>Third party(ies) make their move. Take control of the VAR network is likely.
>Hayate and Freyja learn to resonate without the fold quartz OR the fold quartz is returned to Hayate by Mirage.
I'm fairly sure the above will happen. Did I miss anything?
>>144160513
Wouldn't mind that if it's conducted nicely.
Just want Kaname to be happy.
>>144125676
Some anons won't live to see the end of this series.
>>144160643
U missed mirage in the picture
>>144158977
>calling it AoT
As if you were any better, Redditor.
>>144160468
>kawamori wants to remove some vital parts of macross blah blah blah...
>>144160868
Fine. That Anime With Cancer Fanbase.
Happy?
I guess the only way to satisfy both Frejya and Mirage fags is to have two different Delta movies dedicated to the fans. One movie is HayaMira route and the other is HayaFrejya.
>>144158071
To sacrifice everything for humanity, as opposed to your own goals, is something the while scouting legion is SUPPOSED to do. That's the entire meaning of their salute. And when he said to leave him behind, it was because they should focus on getting Eren to safety, which was so obvious I'm surprised at you.
Erwin's plans are often risky which gets shock from others, and of course the corrupt nobles hate him and the mob doesn't understand. But that is the nature of their fight. If he didn't go to such lengths there's no way to win. And the Legion and the people who know him best follow and believe in him, first of all Levi knows and trusts him the most, despite having a harsh tongue because that's just how he is. His real thoughts are made clear.
Eren said he was ok with the experiments on himself, but he didn't actually know about Levi's plan. He didn't agree to have his friends held hostage. He just felt horrible when he remembered the old squad who died.
You talk about morality yet the things Levi has done are no problem? That's hilariously selective. Everyone has sacrificed and went to great lengths for their goals. At least Erwin never raided a mansion and hurt innocent servants for information.
It seems like he did something wrong from a military perspective. I think it's a misdirection. Arad knows Hayate's dad and even states that his dad would be proud of Hayate. Arad and the captain were both part of NUNS and are now private contractors. Whatever happened on Windermere probably caused them to leave. My theory is that Wright did something to protect Windermere - Most likely dropping that bomb in the safest place possible. Whatever he did, he clearly tarnished his name as far as the military is concerned, but Arad still seems to hold him in high regard.
Arad was trying to block the soldier from seeing Hayate clearly! Could there be enough family resemblance that the guy would have recognized him as an Immelman? Keith was shot down 7 years ago! He may not have been "White Knight" level of skill, but still noteworthy. Who shot him down?
>>144158071
>>144161193
Found an SNK thread. If you wanna continue go here >>144128185
>>144161221
>even states that his dad would be proud of Hayate
Wasn't that a mistranslation?
>>144160468
Wait, what the fuck anon. I thought that Sheryl was main heroine.
>>144160980
They will aguring about which one is canon so no.
>>144161578
If sheryl's main heroine, alto wouldn't have hesitated on choosing sheryl over ranka.
>>144161317
It was in a way. The comment is that he resembles that person. That person is almost assuredly the dad now, and the way he resembles him is almost assuredly the way he flies. And if so, the line that the dad would be proud of him for flying a lot like he would, makes sense. so the line kinda gets a free pass.
>>144161612
>large amount of screentime and cock sucking treatment in movie
>not main heroine
Okay then.
>>144161578
you can cut her from the story with next to no problem.
>>144161613
Lucky for gg.
>>144160643
I can see Freyja trying to send her song to Hayate but she can't. Such a delicious drama.
Hayate will be with Mirage till the end.
>>144161724
What? If there're no Sheryl Ranka would not acting like a heart breaking emo and can still sing to Vajra.
Since next episode is Hayate's birthday, i wonder what kind of present will he receive? Will Frejya give him something more special as compared to what sheryl and Ranka gives to alto?
I wonder what will mirage give hayate as a present. A kiss maybe?
>>144161859
He will only get "Your dad suck" as a birthday present.
>>144161859
I don't know what Mirage could give to him but we know Freyja will sing a new song. Not sure If it counts as a birthday present.
>>144161724
If Sheryl wasn't around then Ranka still would have been captured by Grace and would have possibly destroyed Frontier, and the Vajra wouldn't have stopped attacking humans.
>>144161852
If there's no Sheryl then Ranka doesn't become a singer at all.
>>144160468
Comparing SDF to Frontier is comparing Gundam to Muv Luv.
Sheryl won very early as opposed to Delta where the MC hasn't realized elf pussy yet much less rune pussy.
In episode 15 of Frontier the MC already copped a feel of Sheryl's hopes and dreams multiple times plus he already kissed her.
>>144161859
Freyja will sing a birthday present to Hayate which will cheer him up and give him the courage to pursue a relationship with Mirage.
This would make everyone happy.
>>144162852
as always miragefags can only envision their girl winning with Freyja out of the picture, like her back off for no reason.
>>144162852
I never watched the other Macross, what happens when the other girl wears a china dress?
>>144162970
>I never watched Macross
>other girl
>other
>wears china dress meme
Sure you haven't. Suuuure.
>>144156407
>>144156497
You must be new to the "Kawamori OP2s" thing
Does anyone have a link to the new OP's MV?
>>144163109
Nope, I'm reading MAL posts where they argue certain scenes from the previous Macross shows applicable to this show.
>>144162970
It means they lose the love triangle
The OP doesn't look good for Mirage.
>>144160468
>SDF
SDF is a poor example because it was not supposed to be a love triangle originally and Misa was to be in a relationship with Global. Obviously this got changed but it wasn't this way in inception
>Frontier
Okay now this is just straight up fucking delusional. Ranka had absolutely no chance. Maybe at the beginning when they were first being introduced is one thing but when you are at the point Delta is now, Sheryl was completely going to win. It was mentioned in an earlier thread but when you really watch Frontier, it's pretty damn clear this was going to go with a Sheryl end quite early
So in relating to Delta, in all Macrosses, the one who wins is the one who actually shows the most development with the main character over time. It's not just because of convention it's because of the way the story goes except for that SDF example I've posted. It's not like anybody seriously thought Mao would win in Zero for example
And on that note, you just continue the trend of people who say Mirage will win thinking she will win because of previous Macross events, not because of any traits of her own.
>>144163195
SUPAAA NOVATIC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDJut50TzmQ
>>144163258
It looks like Hayate's looking past Frefre though. What does that mean?
>>144163309
which means Hayate decides mirage over frejya
>>144160980
Oh yeah, that other DYRL movie where Hikaru chooses Minmay, the 7 movie where Basara realized his hidden feelings for Mylene and that second set of Frontier movies where Ranka won are totally necessary things right?
Listen anon, let's be real here. Look at the works of Kawamori in the past like 20 or so years. Think about the ones that have "love triangles" in them. Have any of them ever really had it debatable as to who the winner would be? Seriously think about it. It's less that there's a love triangle and more like there's a main pairing and the audience is just waiting for it to happen
>>144163303
Thanks man.
>>144163182
It's not like those other Kawamori shows excluding Frontier were music oriented ones though.
>>144163367
Akino > Walkure
>>144163367
Lion does the 95% reused footage thing too though. As does AKB0048
>>144163327
Just because the winner is clear does not make it "less there's a love triangle". The mere existance of three people in each case makes each of them a love triangle. It only stops being a love triangle when the third wheel gives up
>>144163422
Lion is better than Super Novatic.
Was there really an interview that said they were saving the better songs for the second half?
>>144163424
I was never indicating as such. I'm just saying it's obvious early on.
>>144163512
OP 1 is better than it too. It was just one of the VAs that said as much. They might just have shit taste in music.
>>144163546
M-maybe she meant the insert songs.
>>144163512
There wasn't an interview saying anything.
It was Toyama on the radio show a few weeks ago saying that she really liked the new op and then Minori saying that her favorite song is the one in the next episode.
The stuff about better songs in the second half came out of nowhere.
So by your replies here about "it's obvious early on who is going to win" means it's Freyja in Delta? Or Sky x Hayate will be the real OTP at the end?
>>144163512
It was a VA (Reina's I think) saying that there were a bunch of songs still to come in the second cour and that her fave was amoung them.
I enjoy Macross recap show but they completely shat on episode 14
>>144163632
>there were a bunch of songs still to come in the second cour
I honestly don't remember anyone saying that.
>>144163605
>>144163632
What is the truth?
>>144163656
What part of you even doubts we'll be getting new songs? We're getting one the very next episode.
>>144163631
Here the real end game. >>144126764
>>144163635
>Ep 14
Because it was shit anon. The only real points of interest were chaos's lack of funds, Keith's injury and the bad state of the ship. Everything else was just pointless fan service - which didn't even advance the triangle at that.
>>144135679
Forgetting Lady GaMlin
>>144163683
I'm saying I didn't hear Toyama say in the radio show that there are a lot of new songs in the second cour, that's it.
>>144163656
I think it was part of one of the Gori Gori radio segments, an anon posted a translation on a past thread. The one where Reina's VA was a guest?
>>144163708
I'm asking, why do you need to have heard him say that to not realize that's true anyway? Or are you just going for the angle, that it wasn't said?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiX9DT8EIxo
Why is this song sound like a sad song?
>>144163751
>People are saying Reina's voice actress said this and that in Gori Gori radio
I'm saying she didn't say that, and I'm not saying that there won't be other new songs in the second half.
>secondary heroine
>zentradi
>girl with a pet
Mirage will never win.
>>144163819
Right. I don't recall it being said either. And we both know there's coming more. Thanks for clearing it up.
>>144163848
Okay I know of the first two loserflag but where does the girl with a pet come in? Mylene's furball?
>>144163848
Misa was a secondary heroine
>>144163901
To be more specific, it's Zentraedi girls with pets
>>144163635
It hurts me when people who're supposedly big on macross, are completely dumbfounded why Hayate and mirage threw their clothes in zero g. Like come on. Hikaru does it in frigging SDF.
Can we not comparing with other Macross series?
>>144163941
do u have a valid reason for this?
>>144163935
Throwing clothes I get, it's just Mirage's constant blushes + being overheard to be doing something 'naughty' + being caught in compromising positions that make me roll my eyes. Like if it advanced the triangle (Hayate being equally flustered) then that's fine, but otherwise what's the point?
>>144163901
Himiko too. Inb4 but Mikono! Evol's traingle was Mikono/Amata/Kagura.
>>144163996
It's kinda annoying when some one said "X was XX so Y will be XX too."
>>144164001
It was for trolling shippers
>>144164001
It's funny?
But regardless, I agree with him. There's an obvious reason they tossed their clothes, not just because it would be service
>>144164041
Mikumo and Kaname look a bit derp, but Freyja and Makirei look super cute.
>>144164041
Kumo is not smiling. Betrayal imminent.
>>144163935
Eh, I usually like listening to them, but that was the first time I had to stop. THEY came off as really stupid discussing it.
Mastah Herman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Arad
>>144164041
Makina looks so much better without pigtails. Why did they choose to go with that?
>>144160468
The fuck are you smoking? Ranka had zero chance with Alto, he showed zero interest in Ranka all through out the series. He spent most of his time with Sheryl and she was the only girl that he chased after.
SDF was about Hikaru moving on from his crush on Minmei, that was obvious from fairly early on.
>>144164213
I bet there are anons on these threads who are older than Mastah and still virgins.
>>144164384
>SDF was about Hikaru moving on from his crush on Minmei,
Minmayfag damage control.
>>144164568
Did you even watch the show?
>>144164065
Yeah their recap of 14 came closest to shipperfaggotry and windhatnmg faggotry but at least they showed restraint.
I find it interesting that even Herman himself thought their tactics were cowardly
>>144164739
Herman and Cassim questions Roid's methods while the younger generation Aerial Knights followed rashly and blindly.
>>144164568
Anon, did you even watch the show?
>>144164739
They are Knights. They go against what knights typically would do. But the point is that they have no other option since during their independence war NUNS decimated all their fighters.
>>144164999
>decimated all their fighters
>meanwhile 6 planes could take out multiple space fleets
>>144159415
This is really cute! Oh my!!
>>144164739
You gotta fight fire with fire.
>>144165042
NUNS don't mind control people
>>144165036
I just really like Hayahaya's expression in the top left panel
>>144165026
Not this again. Anon Keith only took out the ~7 fold jamming machines. Heinz's song did the rest, the fleet literally tore themselves apart after beign varred. 6 planes did not physically take down an entire fleet.
>>144165026
mobius 1 could do it on his own
>>144165049
They blow them away with bombs instead
>>144165049
They drop dimensional eaters and kill millions of civilians instead. They don't deserve an honorable fight.
>>144165085
>>144165088
They blew them up because they were uppity
NUNS don't go to war with planets just because
>>144165062
I love it all. I wish something like this would happen in the anime. It would actually be pretty in character
>>144165088
It says the bomb was dropped on a NUNS base. What about that don't you understand?
>>144165096
No they werent uppity. Also bombing a city of people which contain your own troops as well makes them that morally reprehensible
>>144165136
>No they werent uppity
Nice try Windfag
>>144165133
What is Carlisle City?
>>144165159
Exploited by their occupiers and not giving them independence makes NUNs that firestarter
>>144165162
In the glossary. It's official. You still wanna claim it wasn't dropped on a NUNS base?
>>144165096
>victim blaming
As expected from NUNSfags.
>>144165133
What part of it killing millions of windermerean civilians don't you get?
>>144165208
>Hayate's dad is a filthy traitor
>>144165208
Yes. And it's in the show and glossary that millions of civilians died. And it's also in the show that NUNS think nothing of detonating a reaction warhead, again killing innocent civilians, their own soldiers as well as a few of the enemy. But the purpose of it was just to get data. Where are you going with this exactly?
>>144165265
Can you link me to were it says millions died?
>>144165216
So NUNS just started a war for nothing?
>muh millions of civilians
Maybe Windermere shouldn't have started the war. The fact that they hired Ernest and company to teach them how to blow stuff up is already telling.
>>144165208
Why cant the base be in Carlisle city too? The bomb killed windermereans and NUNs alike
>>144165208
>a dimensional weapon was dropped in Carisle area, dealing enormous damage to the civilians and NUNS militairy personnel stationed there.
It wasn't dropped on a NUNS base, it was droppes in an area that included the base, there were cities too.
>>144165297
Because their assholes?
>>144165294
Mirage, episode 7.
>>144165297
They started a war because they didn't want to lose those GOAT Windermere pilots.
>>144165330
>Hiring Ernest
Wasn't that to teach them how to lead fleets and rage space battles and stuff? AKA stuff they'll need to learn if they want to be an active part of Spacy in the future.
>>144165294
About 13 minutes 20 seconds into episode 7, Mirage says it. She also states that Windermere used it against NUNS, but we've had reason to question that now, haven't we?
>>144165330
More victim blaming, amazing.
Martin Luther King, Jr: We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be **demanded** by the oppressed. Frankly I have never yet engaged in a direct action movement that was "well timed,” according to the timetable of those who have not suffered unduly.
When did Macross fans get the idea that UN Spacy/NUNS was a benevolent organization?
>>144163779
probably because that's her last concert before diving on a black hole?
>It's another NUNS vs Windfags shitfling
>When both sides are in the wrong
>>144165446
Not 7 years ago. Just because Windies are assholes now doesn't mean they weren't the victims 7 years ago.
>>144165479
Windies aren't victims, they had a bloody civil war which NUNS tried to stop.
>>144165406
When NUNS dropped a bombed and killed tons of civilians just like America did in WW2. Murrikans selfinsert.
>>144165479
Yes, and they are in the wrong NOW too if you didn't notice.
>but they started it first!
>>144165499
>they had a bloody civil war which NUNS tried to stop.
This guy.
>>144165525
Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and killed thousands of Americans
>get around to watching the new episode just now
>that ending
So it's pretty fucking obvious that Hayate's dad is the one that fucked up Windermere now.
>>144165479
Yeah Windies were the wronged party 7 years ago, but their actions now are putting them in the same league as NUNS.
Kawamori is probably going to make the UNDERSTANDING end heavily focus around ending this cycle of hate / revenge - everyone putting aside their differences and anger and past grievances and starting afresh on a new page.
>>144165590
Only after Windermere and their ship gets glassed to the moon
Its one thing to remove the local NUNS in their planet but forcefully mindcontrolling everyone and declaring war on the universe is another
>>144165446
Noone is genuinely a windfag. I'm certainly not though I get called it quite often. They obviously in the wrong. The thing is rather they're not alone there. We're seeing a lot of wrong doing by others, but why does this mean that we suddenly think windermere is in the right? Hello?
I also take objection when people group up muh fictional factions into ridig unmoving blocks like that. I really don't think the whole of NUNS were in on the MDE plot. It doesn't benefit them. Its probably a smaller secret faction within NUNS, maybe they're even infiltrators from Epsilon. Likewise, the whole of Windermere isn't taking part of this war, it's the enraged royalty and their knights. Your average windermerean commoner seems pretty clueless on what's going, which you'd expect from a feudal society as exemplified by both Freyja and everyone's surprised reactions to the new war being announced by Roid. Heck we're even starting to see a divide within the knights themselves from this.
I guess its just more fulfilling to most fags to make three word posts about windfag/Nunsfag genocide when? instead though.
>>144151057
>Freyja's face after she uses Rune Pika Beam on Colony ship
>>144165623
>Only after Windermere gets glassed
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>144131848
I think it was on 8 or 9 when I started watching it.to be honest I don't browse /a/ much and didn't even check to see if there was a thread until episode 13
>>144165554
Good point, NUNS is even worse than America. Japan killed thousands of Americans, Windermere on the other hand was the one that was suffering heavy losses.
>>144165636
Killing Hayate for revenge when?
>>144136420
>Mirage in Walkure costumes
I didn't know I needed this.
>>144165709
They were suffering equal losses otherwise Windermere is still NUNS territory.
>>144165623
The cycle of hate must come to and end, anon but I agree with the windermerians's army forces.
>>144165634
Pretty much, not everything is black and white, but it tires me to see the same shitflinging again and again, I really hope the third party will show up soon.
>>144165797
Windermere was losing.
>>144165525
>implying the bombs weren't the better choice
Jap civilians were literally throwing themselves and their children off of cliffs to avoid US troops because the propaganda they were fed implied we would rape and torture them to death.
Plus the estimated amount of lives that would be lost on both sides and the cost of the invasion as a whole and the fact that the US population was getting tired of war at that point.
We gave a fair enough warning and dropped flyers telling people that it was going to fucking happen for days before we did it.
>>144166014
>because the propaganda they were fed implied we would rape and torture them to death
Which some of US soldiers did
>>144166014
Actually the threat of communism scared imperial Japan more than bombs