>The end is approaching.
What did he mean by this?
So, about that Splash Free ED featuring the Aerial Knights
>Keith is walking through the deserts of Al Shahal getting all thirsty and hot
>the other Knights are at the city and there is a water shortage
>meanwhile Roid is at Ragna doing government stuff
>the cut scene is the Knights at a Ragnan underwater club dancing like the fuccbois that they are
>the background dancers are VAR'd soldiers in BDSM suits
>back in Al Shahal, the Knights at the city board the Sigur Valens and fold to Ragna
>Roid is waiting for them and they go swim the Ragnan sea
>Keith finds his VF and folds to Ragna also
>he sees the knights swimming with Roid
>Roid's rune flash, he looks straight at Keith's VF and invites him to swim
>Keith strips down to his swimming trunks and skydive down to the sea
Because she's not an MC. The good MCs are Hayate and Freyja. The bad ones are Roid and Keith.
Mirage appears as part of triangle because she's interested in Hayate, not because she's core to the plot.
Reminder that Freyja is pure
How about fuck off
Guys I just cracked the shipping code. God it's been shoved at us since episode 10 and we were all too stupid to see it.
It's said that when they declare their love under the jellyfish they're bound forever.
Freyja declared her love for singing
Hayate declared his love for flying
Bound forever. The true otps
Windermeme has alot of cute girls. I don't want them to die
Here is one cute girl mixed with cute dude for you.
You should not going about conquering the galaxy if you didn't want your civilians to die
>people still think that in the end Delta and Knights will team up
Team up against who? I hope you understand that in the end we need to get epic battle with songs and shit. We need something like Alto vs Brera and Isamu vs Guld. Or at least fleet vs fleet SDF/DYRL style.
1) NUNS. Delta would not fight against NUNS because of few evil officers. Besides NUNS pilots are just fodder anyway.
2) Epsilon. Do they even have any forces?
3) Sigur Valens or sudden protoculture shit ala birdman. It would be lame.
Final battle should be Delta vs Knights.
Now we can stop fighting over the Hayatebowl. Bring out the fan art of MUH SONGS and MUH FLYING
Hayate having intimacy with his siegfried-chan.
Freyja having romantic encounters with song-kun.
Sorry but I've already chosen my favorite
>Freyja is young and didn't really understand the independence war when it happened, which is why she can be so interested in the outside world. It's similiar to how the different generations in Japan view the world after www2
>Hayate is skilled boy who couldn't find what he wanted to do thus didn't stay with any one thing very long. He's a character who ought to be understandable for many young guys of this age. It's a story of him meeting Freyja who hurries to live and finding something.
When NUNS kills all filthy Knights and gets back to Windermere this cutie will become my personal breeding machine.
>Freyja is young and didn't really understand the independence war when it happened
This explains the difference between her and the Knights. Roid and Keith were 13 and 12 so they could grasp the war better, plus they were forced to fight against NUNS because Windermereans were being decimated. Bogue was her age but being a Knight and having more than half of his family killed also made a difference.
I've been wondering if perhaps female Windermereans don't age the same as male ones. In the Manga centered around the aerial Knights we see Heinz's mom. She's already patchy which is the sign of nearing your limit yet she doesn't look past 25.
You're gonna get Shirkoshied.
>Bogue was her age but being a Knight and having more than half of his family killed also made a difference.
We saw several flashbacks with Freyja standing against burning house. She probably lost someone too (especially since her parents are never mentioned in anime or manga). So it's Freyja's pacifism vs Knit's butthurt and revanchism. They have similar circumstances, yet Freyja managed to forgive humans. She wants everyone to live happily in peace. And that's the main reason Knights are wrong in this show, not because they do evil things, but because they don't see the path of peace and UNDERSTANDING. This is the message Kawamori tries to send us in Delta.
>Team up against who?
Probably the true enemy. There is going to be a giant thing that has to be stopped. It's happened in every series since DYRL
> I hope you understand that in the end we need to get epic battle with songs and shit. We need something like Alto vs Brera
I'm pretty sure Frontier TV and 7's final battle were "epic" enough without a rival battle
I'm not saying that you aren't right, but Keith and the rest of his squad went through different circumstances than Freyja that coloured how they perceive this war and the past one. Thus for now UNDERSTANDING doesn't come as easy to them when they had to see NUNS decimate their own forces and then blame them for a bomb that most likely wasn't used by Windermere but by someone else, whether it's NUNS or a third party.
She is Windermerian. They live only 30 years. It's part of their instinct to make as many babies as possible. They are unrapeable not because they are strong and can resist, but because they never refuse and thus it never can count as rape.
>I'm pretty sure Frontier TV and 7's final battle were "epic" enough without a rival battle
Can't you fucking read? "Or at least fleet vs fleet SDF/DYRL style." Frontier ended with fight against Vajra. It was basically fleet vs fleet battle with Vajra queen as special enemy.
>Probably the true enemy
Again, who? Epsilon suddenly pulling their own fleet out of nowhere?
“And those who, when tyranny strikes them, they defend themselves. And the retribution for an evil act is an evil one like it, but whoever pardons and makes reconciliation - his reward is [due] from Allah. Indeed, He does not like wrongdoers. And whoever avenges himself after having been wronged - those have not upon them any cause [for blame]. The cause is only against the ones who wrong the people and tyrannise upon the earth without right. Those will have a painful punishment. And whoever is patient and forgives - indeed, that is of the matters [requiring] determination.”
[Quran 42: 39-43]
>Hacking the Sigr Valens
Nah, they're gonna take of the mindcontrol ruin network the Windies have so helpfully set up for them.
Plus a reminder that so far we've only seen the one epsilon guy. He could just be a proxy agent or something. THey obviously have enough supplies to outfit the Windies for their war against NUNS anyway, so they're not completely without firepower.
Keith you little shit you're going to lose your brother and you'll have no one to blame but yourself.
>Ah, believe in me baby
>I'll forgive you in a chaotic climax
Taking Sigr Valens = taking over mindcontrol network = having the entire mind controlled cluster going against Delta (immune) and the knights (also immune).
Final battle could be going against big bad + mooks while at the same time trying to disable the Valens and thus stop the mind control. Once Valens is down Walkure will cleanse the Var with their song and everyone is happy.
>What did he mean by this?
God fucking damn this has to be the most annoying meme I've seen in a long time. It's not funny in any way, shape or form, and the worst part is I see it on every single goddamn board.
Keith is so fed up with Roid's shit. Now the question is, will Bogue side with his beloved Keith-sama and Mastah or will he side with Roid for the NUNS genocide?
If we're gonna dissect the poster, Hayate's body and pose are placed in direction towards Freyja, as if he's walking towards her. Also his necklace is shinning and pointing to her as well.
oh hey that other artist did do one today too
The world is a better place because HayaFre exists
Since the preview. I've been waiting for my Freyja fix this since winter.
I was avoiding Macross because I'm not big on idol animes. Something about them just doesn't work for me. A few years ago I had given Frontier a go but gave up after the fuckery that was the Sheryl's panties episode.
Finally decided to give Delta a shot after I saw some gifs on Tumblr and was like "oh hey, that girl is pretty cute (freyja). I guess I'll give it a try" And I did. As soon as Freyja came on and started giving her inspirational speech on not giving up and thriving towards her dreams I WAS HOOKED.
Same waiting for more quality songs though.
>gave up after the fuckery that was the Sheryl's panties episode.
Literally the best Frontier episode. A pleasant break from action and romance for some comedy and fanservice. I appreciate this episode even more now after that weak and bland attempt to achieve the same effect in Delta's episode 14.
The moment my heart pledged allegiance to HayaFre
Had you enjoyed Frontier up until that rather infamously poor episode? It's kind of a one off horror show. I'm saying you might want to consider trying it again. Or maybe just the movies instead. But then I'm again I'm just a huge franchise nerd who watched it all.
Probably because using their runes is hard work. Freyja's won't turn on unless there's imminent danger and poor Heinz is going to die before he gets to 15 at the rate he's using his.
>Sheryl's panties episode
>The best Frontier episode
>Not Episode 4
>Not Episode 7
>Not Zero tribute episode
>Not the final episode
Sheryl's panties episode was fucking cancer and it introduced a subplot of Sheryl going to Alto's school that didn't even go anywhere
Not quite it, but...
Heinz is the indisputed delta champion of that
>15 cues for depth perception available with only 1 eye
>only 3 additional cues with 2nd eye
>also one of those 3 (Shadow Stereopsis) is completely useless in space fight anyway
This is how you could have successfully overthrown NUG Roid.
>Walkure's popularity plummets
>Chaos goes out of business
>Heidi brings in massive amounts of cash thanks to galactic otaku
>use her to promote apples and maybe throw some subliminal messages in her songs
Frontier - person behind SMS = Mr Butler
Delta - person behind Xaos = not gonna introduce?
For now we do not even what actually is lady purpose for forming Xaos and her ambitions while Frontier clearly introduces Mr. Birler's intentions
It's not really that important of an issue. It's someone with knack for being a politician or business dealer, and they have a lot of dosh, since Xaos is a rather recent, but highly valued fold communications company.
It's not gonna be Minmay, could be half a million alternatives from the Jenius clan, or just be someone new entirely.
At least frontier introduces Mr. Border and his intentions so will be expecting lady M to be introduced. Furthermore, don't u think that all the members and protocols in Xaos are selected and made up by lady M with a purpose? We wouldn't be surprised to know that it is lady M that approves hayate to be part of the Delta before him even taking the exam. Lady M's actions is basically a mystery.
Most to least likely
Some other Jenius
Some undercover Protoculture with Mayan in their name
Random Bridge Bunny with an M name (there's lots)
I think that covers just about every female with an M name.
Any kind soul out there that can translate?
Mr. Birler was not an underlying mystery of Frontier. It's not like they were mentioning this shadowy owner of Frontier the whole time, he just was in the background. Also after he's introduced, he's completely inconsequential to the story to the point that he's not even in the movies. It's not the same situation as from the way Delta has portrayed it, Lady M is supposed to be something of an enigma, she's even influencing certain events in the plot like assigning them missions and slowing down the time for the nuke to go off. What I'm trying to say is that it's not very comparable so saying "at least Frontier introduces Birler" isn't exactly right
uh.. tiny.. hurts my eyes.
>MakiMaki picked out a swimsuit for me
>Oh, freyja-chan that's cute.
Then Hayate is all like lecturing her on being careful or some such (like fuck i can't really tell with the kanji). Basicly the context seems to be that he's rather overprotective or possessive and covers her with his jacket and Chuck is like "Oh he's that kinda guy"
Freyjafags stop bullying miragefags. They barely post anymore, I feel bad for them. Have this miragefags
If you have anymore feel free to post it. I may push for Hayafre a lot, but I don't mind this
Unfortunately they have very few fanart. I actually have more MiraFre and BogueFre than HayaMira.
Mirage should stop following Hayate everywhere and bond more with Makina. Resonating with her will make her stronger and help with her inferiority complex problems.
MiraFre is ridiculously cute.
MiraFre is the good shit
I always liked how since the 1st episode was all over protecting Freyja and worried for her safety. Sasuga atashi no otp
Give me Minmay over Sheryl. There's something about her flighty personality and girl next door qualities that I can't get enough of. Sheryl felt too much like a celebrity to me.
What do I think about Ranka? I find her character cute in Frontier especially her voice and the way she talks.
One thing I like about frontier is the writers are good at depicting disappointing moments. Example, Ranka's tv show got turned down and all she sees in the backgrounds are screens of sheryl's picture with the sad aimo ost. There are many more examples as well.
Cross Mikumo off the list. Episode 14 proved she has nothing to do with it. Mikumo summoned Kaname in order to gain information on the operation. Kaname, being the leader of Walkure, has more intel than Mikumo.
Mikumo even had a plan, and utilized Kaname to relay this plan to higher ups, rather than hearing about if from Lady M
Sheryl is a radiant star, shining brighter than the sun itself.
And the only way for someone like her to go is down.
The inevitable fall and the way she manages to survive it are what make Sheryl so great.
And Sheryl can do the flighty fun girl next door better than anyone else, because she never loses her radiance.
It's less adoration and more admiration, really.
Since I don't own an actual pair of goggles, I'll have to use my imaginary goggles.
Here's what I see:
Roid x Keith
Roid x Heinz
Keith x Heinz
Bouge x Hayate
Bouge x Keith
Bouge x other Windermere pilots
>Heinz killed bajillions of Spacy
And nothing of value was lost.
As a fujo I could see the appeal in:
Roid x Keith
Keith x Bogue
And as a yurifag I can see the appeal in:
Freyja x Mirage
Freyja x Mikumo
Doesn't mean I can ship them though, something about Delta doesnt appeal to my homoship tendencies. Delta is literally the first anime I've shipped het in the past 5 years.
Instead there was some loliBogue/Freyja fanart. Even fujoshi ship het or yuri in Macross.
Bogue/Freyja is 2cute4me.
Not that anon, but the knight squad's manga runs in a fujo magazine. They're more targetted towards females in general though.
I'm another fuji and I have got to agree with you. Macross is for the het mostly and some yuri. If I want some homo there are other series. I think what makes the het appealing in Macross is that I think the female character generally are a lot more interesting than those in other series.
Still Ranka and Sheryl is what made Frontier so popular. Both their characters and songs. Ranka is just there to ruin alto and sheryl's mood. Still ranka is better than walkure and minmay
I love every Macross girl. Ranka is great because she matures from someone with zero self confidence into someone with enough conviction to go against the entire colony to do what she feels is right. For better or worse she's an idealist, it loses her the bowl because Alto wasn't her prince on a white horse she imagined him to be but on the flip side she achieves UNDERSTANDING because she was the only one who knew what the Vajra really were and she knew fighting them wasn't the answer.
Agree. I wanted them to interact more and become friends.
Twitter. Pixiv is old and busted.
>tfw the knights get more bizarre het art than homo art with their peers
This. The fact that she was willing to do something Alto really, really didn't like was prove of how much she had grown up.
Inorite? Since there's so many female friendships in Delta I find myself constantly going "Oho, Mirage and Freyja would be cute. Heh, but Mikumo can teach Freyja many things." For some reason Mikumo/Freyja reminds be a bit about Shizuma/Nagisa from Strawberry Panic. Something about strong female characters does that to you. Or then again I could just be projecting my homo ass on them.
But at the end of the end I'm all about the HayaFre.
It'd be fun to see Delta's demographics. From twitter I gather that a lot of them are women.
Also, this one came from a fujo. See? In Macross they ship het.
I bet they would have been good friends under other circumstances, same with Keith and Hayate. They are very similar.
I could understand if you were saying Movie Ranka because Ranka in the Frontier movies is a much better and more proactive character but you're telling me you think TV Ranka's good? Really? Like holy shit, Ranka in the show is so ridiculously annoying. Not like Mylene annoying but more like "what is she even doing here and being a main character" kind of annoying.
I also like that Kawamori gives zero fucks about muh purity, harems and having female characters be completely devoted to the main lead, unlike in other series. For example, part of Ranka's character development in the series was getting over her crush on Alto, and it's confirmed she married someone else once an adult.
War turned their wings white wings black. The metaphore is not the most original one but it works.
Sheryl had her fun moments. The date episode was great, but no one can match Minmay in terms of flightiness. One moment she's having an intimate conversation with Hikaru and two minutes later she's like "Hikaru? Oh yeah that pilot guy he exists I guess." Her kind of being 100% in the moment attitude does it for me.
She knows that Walkure can overpower Heinz, and that Windemere only has one wind singer. One possible plan is to remove the wind singer, for example by luring the knights away and then kill or kidnap Heinz.
Another is to remove the control over the ruins, but I'm not sure if Mikumo knows how to do it.
>her songs were nice
Yeah I'm going to disagree with this hard. I only liked Seikan Hikou out of her songs. Niji-iro Kuma Kuma was okay I guess. Everything else I've pretty much forgotten except for Aimo because the show wouldn't let me
Minmay's best songs!!
Silver moon, red moon
Tenshi no enogu
My boy friend's a pilot
One more I forgot..
I have to say that minmay's songs and her voice is one of the things which made SDF memorable . Especially silver moon, red moon which is alwAys played in the series. Tenshi no enogu somehow gives me a sad feeling about it. DYRL is legendary
Oh please. Both May'n and Walkure have perfectly worthwhile songs. Except Walkure being a group can do into multiple kinds of songs that sound different from rank other. May'n's songs as Sheryl are one particular type of music
Bullshit. The point is that they are a group. Minor in has a great voice too. Actually just based on Axis alone, I would say if Mikumo had the most powerful voice, Kaname has the most soulful
He was more or less self-destructing and wasn't being presented as a common enemy. More like Basara was trying to save him. The closest thing to a "team-up" was Sivil helping Basara out.
I don't like the idea of having to make a third enemy faction just for the sake of getting two sides to fight alongside each other.
Is Delta your first Kawamori show? Assholes, villains and antagonist get away scot free all the time.
But then soldier was kinds overreacting. Besides not enought drama for Hayate
But then where is he now?
>caused the war
Even though windies were already displeased with NUNG they needed some kind of sparkle. Hayate's dad raped some girl and angry windies started the rebellion.
>he wanted to prevent some evil NUNS operation and stole fold quartz (now in Hayate's necklace) required for it. He was obviously declared as traitor.
I seriously don't think he dropped the bomb. That's very "squishy" plot twist. But on the other hand I can't come up with any good alternative.
I haven't watched Logos, but in one of the recent Kawamori shows, more than half of the antagonists were wiped out. Some were killed in battle and some offscreen, then their king turned them into zombies before biting the dust.
Ouiii, mon empresss..
I wish to lick the Makinas
She didn't, even Kawmori admitted that Ranka was still very much a child at the end of Frontier tv series. In fact that's why her personality was changed in the movies. She gained more confidence but she didn't mature. Also tv series Ranka thought that she still had a chance with Alto.
It means it's easy to fuck up the story with plot holes. People argue about possible explanations on how and why he bombed Windermere for 3 days already and they still can't bring up a single solid theory.
Also for some reason nips think that children are responsible for parents crimes. Not legally, but from thhe point of social perception. And it can make father-son drama look completely retarded for western viewer. It still hurts a little when I remember how the same drama ruined Penguindrum.
>Immelman learns about his dad, mirage tries to talk to him
>"what would you know about it, your parents were both great people, everyone hates my dad. Go away"
>"I'm glad we patched things up between us. You're my best friend now. I'll brb, freya just jumped off the ship again. I need to go make love with her "
I posted my (what I thought was very logic) theory and nobody even farted my way
Hayate's dad was part of nuns, special ops. Travels around a lot, always on secret missions. While he was stationed in Windermere he meets baby Freyja and gives her the music player. He ends up finding out about the NUNS plans to nuke the winds and thinks about deserting/exposing them. But before that he confides in Arad in secrecy. Arad tells him not to do anything rash, that he could get himself killed. Somewhere along the line Hayate's dad gets discovered that he knew the NUNS secret. So they threaten him. Hayate's mom is a military nurse so they have easy access to her and Hayate is just a kid. Basically now Hayate's dad is put to the test. They force him to throw the bomb or they'll torture his family. So he does so. Throws the bomb against his wishes because he wants to protect his family. But he knows that the NUNS won't let him escape so easily now that he knows how evil they really are and what they're capable of. So to hide what he knows and to ensure that his family won't be in any danger, he crashes his plane and that's the fire that we see in Baby Freyja's flashback as she's holding the music player. If he's dead the secret dies with him and the NUNS see no reason to pursue his family. Arad puts two and two together and leaves the NUNS and joins Chaos instead.
The NUNS tell all the others that were stationed one Windermere that Hayates dad nuked the winds. So they framed him.
>The NUNS carried out their experiment
>Made Hayate's dad do the dirty work unwillingly
>Their secret is safe bc Hayate's dad is dead/sacrificed himself to keep his family safe
>They framed Hayate's dad to make him be the bad guy
>Special ops blame Hayate's dad for all their comrades who died which would explain why that guy Hayate saved was all like What are you doing with that man's son.
>Hayate teases Freyja about her rune, something he already knows is very sexual
>People still implying Hayate treats her like an imouto
Clearly I've been treating my sisters wrong all this time.
>Also for some reason nips think that children are responsible for parents crimes. Not legally, but from thhe point of social perception.
Why do you think it is only the Japanese? The entire China and Korea is still doing that with the Pacific War.
I could copy paste the same answer you got previous time, but I'm too lazy to search through archives. In the end I will end making same arguments every time because no one reads previous threads.
Actually, I will ask it again for millionth time.
>So he does so
He threw it on NUNS forces.
And if Arad knew everything why didn't he expose NUNS crimes? He is protected by Chaos now, it's not like NUNS can shut him up. Arad looks like a honest guy who wouldn't let the truth to be buried. He could clear the name of his friend and prevent the whole war.
>Also for some reason nips think that children are responsible for parents crimes. Not legally, but from thhe point of social perception. And it can make father-son drama look completely retarded for western viewer
Okay first of all, how is that the show's problem? Second, doesn't that say more about the perception of the outside looking in than it would about the show itself?
Third, people have been spitballing theories this entire time. You or at least some people in here have been super autistic about it by screaming "NO NO, THAT CAN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE X" when all we are doing is posting theories, you know, speculations? Thoughts? General predictions on the direction without calling direct attention to it based on our own personal opinions?
Arad never brought anything to light because he figured that Windermere wouldn't retaliate (I mean they did nothing for 7 years). The NUNS put everything under the blanket and moved on. Arad thought it'd be better to keep quiet about everything. If he said anything his life would be in danger and another war would break out. A war would mean even more innocent lives would be wasted. So he kept quiet.
Years later he ends up meeting Hayate and Freyja and that's why he thinks "Looks like fate bound Hayate Immelman and the Windermere"
>If he said anything his life would be in danger
That's why I said he is under Chaos protection. He doesn't look like a coward who would be afraid of such things.
>and another war would break out
How? Windies already think that NUNS did it. This reveal would change nothing for them. Actually if NUNS officers responsible for it were punished it would calm Windies and would prevent the war.
Your theory is acceptable only if Arad is a coward who doesn't care much about his friends, truth and world peace.
I do think another war would have broken out for the mere fact that organizations would retaliate against the NUNS. Plus, the world thrives around stealing other people's weapons and research. They'd start bombing each other to get their hands on the potential information that the NUNS would have.
Plus, if you have fake peace why throw it all to hell and stir shit up. Hayate's family was probably told that his father died in combat or smt. All the people that were involved in the windies incident were sworn to secrecy.
So then logic would push Arad to not do anything.
At least those are the actions I would think are the best course.
Also, if Hayate's dad sacrificed himself to keep his family out of trouble, why would he expose what happened in the past. You know people are stupid and would still say "YOUR FATHER KILLED PEOPLE, HE COULD'VE DENIED HIMSELF"
You people need to get off your high horses. Not everything in morality is so black and white. Shit is gray af.
Be honest, /a/. Which ships do you ship?
Your whole post is beyond retarded. You have no idea what NUNS is and how it works.
>that organizations would retaliate against the NUNS
Which organizations? What are you even talking about?
>the world thrives around stealing other people's weapons and research.
Whay? The whole galaxy is in single fucking alliance.
Imagine that it's revealed that American army did some beyond terrible war crimes in Iraq. Would it end in a war? No, just lots of generals will be arrested. There won't be any war, soldiers won't be protecting those generals if they are proven criminals. There would be still lots of other generals left to replace them.
It's just a theory bro. Calm the fuck down. This is why a lot of people don't even like to participate in the discussions anymore. You're taking the fun out of speculating and throwing theories around.
It's alright to not agree with it and even point out inconsistencies but it's not ok to act like a total asswipe.
We get it. You take your anime seriously. Just don't be such a jerk about it. Some of us are actually trying to have a good time.
I wish Mirage was this hot.
>ring finger in front
Can people actually do this? I don't even get close, whereas with the middle finger at the front it's really easy.
I searched around but so far there are only Freyja and Mikumo ones
But they look cute together.
Does anyone know the song from the very first episode that hayate is dancing to? There is no info on it.
are you guys ready for freyja's rune pika?
They're fujobait that's why the show tries to make them sympathetic and fails hard in every way
If they were just regular pretty boy enemies fujoshits would complain that Delta is just another Gundam
>what are non fujoshi girls
Delta has zero homolust, no close male friendships, no passionate bonds between men. There's nothing for fujos in Delta. Like some anons said before, even the girls who are usually into homo don't ship homo here, they are into the straight pairings.
Well, that may be the reality, But that doesn't mean that the original design wasn't for fujos. Didn't someone say that knights manga is published in a rotten girl magazine? You're wrong to say they're not for fujos.
>But that doesn't mean that the original design wasn't for fujos
Character designs, you mean? What the hell is a fujoshi character design?
Just give up. The show has zero fujobait and zero fujo following. Even 7 had more homolust than Delta.
If you look anywhere online, the attention being given to is odly pretty minimal. It hasn't become "big". Shows like Re Zero on the other hand are stealing the thunder. That's what it feels like to me.
Yeah. As a bisexual female, he does kinda activate my gaydar a bit. The way he was so hung up on Messer always seemed a bit odd to me. Like I got where he was coming from but yeah...
Oh well. Here's to hoping he's at least bi and will show an interest in the female body. MUH HAYAFRE SHIP
Do you know what fujos are? It's not about being handsome or appealing to women. It's about male characters being fags. Wanting to suck each other's dicks. Fujoshi are women who like GAY FUCKING.
Not as bad pretty boys villains are automatically fujoshit now? The fuck am I reading.
Look at this pic, this is fujobait.
Another example of Kawamori fujobaiting. Now tell me if Delta has something that looks like the Cayenne/Shrade scenes or this one.
I've been a fujoshi for the past 7 years of my life and I can safely say that Delta has 0 fujobait. There's not really any bromance that awakens my fujo senses.
A lot of the time it doesn't even have to be about pretty boys. Fujo shipping is mainly about chemistry between male charas. Some shows are great for this, others aren't.
Like shingeki no kyojin for example. That is full of fujobaiting and the producers know it. We're all over that shit slutting Levi and Eren and all the others.
Delta just doesn't work when it comes to BL tones. It works great for Yuri though so that's a huge plus for me although my main ship is HayaFre.
Bro. Have you not seen the official anime art that gets released? Full on Levi/Eren fujobait.
LeviEren is great bc the way we fujoshis see it is Levi is this awkward mess of a OP soldier who can't properly express himself but he gradually warms up to Eren and cares for him as his superior. And then you have Eren who has idolized Levi and now Levi is his mentor who has been entrusted with his life.
JeanMarco is good but Marcos dead so I can't ship that.
Many ship Bert/Reiner but Bara isn't my thing.
Don't even get me started on Erwin/Levi. Just no. Never in a thousand years.
Anyway. My point remains. No fujo shipping in Delta.
Mikumo/Freyja reminds me a bit of Shizuma/Nagisa from Strawberry Panic. Mikumo is like Shizuma, the older onee-san type that is mysterious but oh so alluring with a dark mysterious past. And then Freyja is Nagisa, the genki innocent Kouhai who admires the onee-san senpai and is very intrigued to know more about them.
We yurifags now.
Let me tell you something. If an anime has cute male charas, strong male bonding/bromance, uniforms/armor the chance that we're gonna be there shipping is 99.9%. Boys being bromantic with other boys is what really gets us going.
So yes. The answer is yes.
I don't know about promoart, the story itself isn't gay. Eren and Levi haven't grown close or anything. Mikasa is the endgame. Reiner and Berthold are both into girls.
Funny you should dismiss Erwin and Levi though, I forgot to mention it's the only other thing that counts as fujobait now that it seems like Levi's gone half-crazy over him or something in the latest updates.
In any case Shingeki no Kyojin is false fujobait, since those arts you talk about don't resemble what's actually happening in the story. I wonder why didn't Delta try that, it could have lured in a few fujos who'd end up looking it anyway.
You just don't understand the fujoart, my friend. We don't see the gay potential with our eyes, we see it with out hearts. Also I hate Erwin/Levi, don't utter that nonsense in my presence. I will never understand that ship nor do I want to.
Mikasa isn't Endgame. That's a true imoutozone if I ever saw one, not like the Freyja imoutozone Miragefags insist on.
If Delta were to fujobait I could see it with Roid/Keith. Bogue wouldn't work because he's too annoying and doesn't have that BL appeal.
>Also I hate Erwin/Levi
Why? Strangely it's one fujo ship I can find acceptable, which is rare. They're friends who trust each other. Eren/Levi in comparison makes no sense at all. Eren is a kid and scared of Levi while Levi is 30+ and made a squad just to emotionally torture Eren into waking his powers. It's creepy.
I won't complain. Mikumo's swimsuit was god-tier.
Not the anon you are replying to but funny that you dismiss Erwin/Levi when is supported by the canon story more as a relationship development (not romantic but from the ones that is actually developed) when Levi/Eren has only fujobait promo art that it was only during the anime time.
Not to say you can't dislike/hate the pairing but if you go by canon standards in how the story represents relationships, then Erwin/Levi has more potential.
Anyways, as also a fujo I didn't see any bait here besides Keith/Messer but that was on the crack side because
>Muh Shiro Kishi
There could be fujovibes from Roid/Keith because they are childhood friends etc. but really Delta is a free fujobait territory 90% of the time.
I like my Hayate/Freyja and Mikumo/Freyja.
I've never liked Erwin. He's too manipulative. He wouldn't hesitate to sacrifice anyone as long as he reaches his goal. Whether they be his subordinates, or his friends, Erwin is all about the bigger picture and won't stop until he gets what he wants. I could never ship someone like that. I may be fujo trash but I have standards.
On the other hand Levi while awkward is a caring person. He's "squad members first, bigger picture after". Levi didn't form a squad just to torture Eren, it was to protect him and at the same time supervise him. And if you want to be technical, all the trials and experiments Eren has gone through have been because of Erwins orders. Levi has pushed Eren to persevere, but has never forced him. He's all "You make your own choices" and he comforted Eren (in a very Levi way) when Petra and all the others died.
Frankly im all about letting Erwin kick the bucket and having Armin be the one to survive.
But back to Delta. Keith/Messer is good too. But Roid/Keith has more potential.
Also. Forgot to post this. Yeah Eren may be 16 but I have my line pretty blurry. If you're old enough to be in the Military, kill titans and be ready to die, then you're old enough to accept if you want a dick up your ass. But to be fair, when I ship Eren/Levi I ship it in an AU sense where Levi and Eren are closer in age and not killing titans.
I'm a huge sucker for reincarnation AU's.
Would Bogue act tsundere towards Freyja?
>It's not like I hate your or something b-but I don't like your music, you hear me?
I agree it would be more fun to watch with Bogue's reactions.
That's fine. I can see why you don't like Erwin and it's one of the reasons I don't to. I was just saying that by the story standards an Erwin/Levi thing is more canon that Levi/Eren because of their history and relationship.
Each to their own at the end. I don't really care about shipping in Shingeki anymore as I have lost interest in the story.
For Keith/Messer they could totally pass it because pilots who have an obsession with each other and are enemies but they never did.
With Roid is your usual childhood friend thing which is pretty cute in the manga thus far. They have a history and all but they never push it as well.
So I go for Hayate/Freyja mostly here.
I am sure Freyja can win the Hayatebowl but you never know. I don't dislike Mirage but I can't help but see how small her connection to Hayate is in contrast with Freyja's, so if she wins the Hayatebowl without any significant character and relationship changes, I call bullshit.
Erwin's goal, to find the truth, is beneficial to humanity. Whatever his goals Erwin worked hard as a proper Commander and is wracked by guilt anyway. He also gave up on all of his dreams fight for the greater good. And all the people who died fighting under him chose to do so after he told them the grim reality of fighting titans.
Protecting and supervising Eren was supposed to be what the squad was for, but the chapter clearly showed his intentions weren't kind. Armin himself questioned why them when there were others more skilled for the task. All the experiments and trials Eren has gone through were necessary for figuring out his powers and Hanji was the one directing the specifics, but the only time where emotional scarring was involved to make Eren improve was Levi's independent decision.
He's still 15.
I'm fascinated by the way you seem to think. It reminds me of Rankafags insisting the end was open when Sheryl was the obvious winner. Want to make a Shingeki no Kyojin thread we can take this discussion to?
I know I'm late to the party but wow, what a shitty opening, its just a slideshow.
Its trash. Someone tell me they just didn't have the new one ready in time and threw a bunch of random shit together instead.
>I'm fascinated by the way you seem to think. It reminds me of Rankafags insisting the end was open when Sheryl was the obvious winner.
Come on now. My way of thinking may be a bit odd but I'm in no way what you describe me as. While I accept what I ship, I do realize there are limits and that certain things won't happen. Im perfectly aware when a ship has actual canon potential and when a ship only has potential in my mind. I've been doing this whole shipping thing since I was 11 so after almost 14 years I know when and how to pick my battles. I ship what I like and I enjoy it regardless of whether it can happen or not.
I'd take you up on the making a thread offer but it's almost 1 am here and I'm tired af. Maybe some other time. :)
I don't think that because of your ship, but because you said Erwin will do anything to achieve his goals and won't stop, when he very clearly gave up his life and goals for the greater good in the last chapter I read. He also told everyone to leave him behind when he lost his arm.
And you said Levi formed his squad to protect Eren. While that was what this squad was supposed to be for, and they had more suitable soldiers to do that as stated by Armin, Levi very clearly said his intentions were to force Eren into waking his powers out of desperation for his friends' lives.
Those are facts but you seem to ignore them.
See that's the thing. I'm going to assume you're talking about the chapter where Erwin and the rest of the of the scouting legion rode into their deaths to distract the ape Titan. Erwin clearly stated that he didn't want to do it. That he knew the logic thing was to sacrifice himself and the others to create an opening for Levi. Yes Erwin is manipulative and yes Erwin is always willing to go to lengths no one would ever go to just to achieve something. From my pov everything with him is about sacrifice to reach an end. And in that situation he realized that his sacrifice was necessary. That's the scary thing about Erwin. As for him shouting for his subordinates to leave him behind, that was because he had lost all hope. Maybe he thought none of them would make it or he did hold on to that whole "the end is what matters" ideology. I don't find morality to be a thing Erwin concerns himself with. He'll sacrifice anything to achieve an end result, even if that includes himself. It's been stated by Levi and other characters that Erwin is insane and most do not agree with his plans but at the end of the day Erwin has a goal.
As for the Eren matter. Yes Levi created the squad to "force eren to awake his powers" but if I recall correctly Eren himself was on board with the whole thing of awakening and experimenting in order to have a better grasp of his powers and increase their chances of winning.
Morality and perception of a situation is a weird thing, isn't it?
What happened to this thread?
HayaFre and MesaKana. And yes I'm aware that shipping the latter one is basicly wishing for Kaname to be heartbroken at this point. But maybe it can carry over to the movie
well at least im not alone
We are not alone, and our ship won't sink for it is a Ghost ship.
then they'll be reunited
Are u guys nuts or something? It will never be HayaFrej in the end. Why?
In SDF, Minmay was obviously supposed to be with Hikaru with all the screentime, development and other possible shit but in the end Hikaru ended up with Misa.
In frontier, Ranka Lee was obvious to have the highest chance to be with Alto but in the end the whole scenario fucked up and Alto ended up with Sheryl.
Now in Delta, shippers say Haya will be with Frejya because of "muh song and muh pilot resonance shit" plus the amount of screen time Haya gets with Frejya. Obviously in the end will be both Mirage and Hayate.
The obvious cycle continues bois. Just you wait and face it. Admit Mirage will win the bowl in the end.
>Hayate's dad dropped the bomb/was made to/was framed, whatever.
>Disgusted with his dad, Hayate throws away the fold quartz, not knowing what it does.
>Next time Freyja sings, Hayate doesn't resonate without the quartz, shocking them both. Cue drama of both blaming themselves for making it not work
>Mikumo defects. Cue more drama with walkure split apart. Leads to first real idol showdown in Macross.
>Third party(ies) make their move. Take control of the VAR network is likely.
>Hayate and Freyja learn to resonate without the fold quartz OR the fold quartz is returned to Hayate by Mirage.
I'm fairly sure the above will happen. Did I miss anything?
Wouldn't mind that if it's conducted nicely.
Just want Kaname to be happy.