So isekai is generally about a single person put in a fantasy

Grimgar takes place in Ovelord world.

>>143699422
>MC had this hot piece of ass and tits for a trainer
Man, the MC for Grimgar was full on gay.

>>143699422
Who cares, it's all the same shit anyway.

>>143700114
shut your mouth hole

So, Magic Knight Rayearth?

There are WNs where an entire class gets transferred to another world, but these are usually to facilitate some kind of persecuted otaku revenge fantasy.

Why couldnt grimgar be as good as Goblin slayer?
>tfw didnt get to see delicious Grimgar girls getting turned into goblin sex slaves and beaten after a 16 hour goblin gang rape that leaves the mcovered in cum and oozing out of every hole

>>143699422
Both is isekai

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>>143702331
>he hasn't read the manga

>>143699422
>But what about multi-man isekai?

That's been a thing since at least back in Narnia. Lots of 3-5 person groups getting hero-summoned. They just aren't getting all the way to anime form as often. There was a Shining Tears one years and years ago, for example, though that was game first and anime second. Or ones like Hagure Yuusha, which is about Earth being the source for lots of single summons, and what happens when the survivors come back.

There are even some trashy revenge fantasies where a whole classroom, or a whole floor, or even the entire school campus gets transferred over at once. I haven't heard of any good ones yet, though. Since the main source of these today is amateur webnovels, I would guess the ones that focus on fewer real-world characters are easier to write.

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>>143699422
Been there, done that and probably better than most of the stuff out today, as long as you stick to the 1st OAV series.

As it turns out the writers who want to write Isekai suck at ensemble casts and just use other perspectives to show off how cool the MC is or how evil the bad guy is, this should surprise nobody.

Why are most Isekai's shit? What does it take to make them good?

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>>143699422
There's a game series like that

I mean it did have an anime, but we don't talk about the Cybuster anime

>>143699422
Multi-man isekai is just focused on one person of the group being used as a sacrificial outcast. Said person is always the revenge porn MC.

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>>143703157
>I haven't heard of any good ones yet, though

Not a fan of Kumo-chan?

Also, Mushoku Tensei technically had 3 people being transported

>>143703647
Arifureta redone with the MC in a support role for the rest of the cast and focused on item description porn and social dynamics never

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>>143699422
it's a blast, just ask this guy

>>143703157
>There are even some trashy revenge fantasies where a whole classroom, or a whole floor, or even the entire school campus gets transferred over at once.

Battle Royale was good, this premise has potential

>>143703647
What about Drifters?

>>143703767
>has his own loyal beastkin waifu AND badass chocobo loli waifu
>still a cunt

0/10 shieldhero you had one job

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>>143703460

Wanderers was okay

best girl never wins though

Local Knight Hans is pretty good, where all the isekai characters are side characters and the main character is a native.

>>143699422
>But what about multi-man isekai?

Shieldbro was literally that. To the extent even the enemies in the last 1/3rd of the book were also edgy Isekai protagonists taking full advantage of the extracurricular knowledge they have.

>>143703876
>beastkin
Demi-human you bloody idiot. He does get a cute mole beastkin later on though, and a dog type demihuman that can transform into a husky puppy beastkin

>>143703767
I really hated this manga. I can't really explain it, but it's one of the few times where I actually felt that it was nothing more than the author being angry about other people. It was too petty to be a good revenge story.

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>>143703949
I'm still kinda miffed that they lobotomized Ifurita for the tv adaption. And they should have kept Rune Venus as a delicious christmas cake.

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The problem with isekai isn't the number of people who get transported it's the fact that it's rarely about more than neet heroes making game references.

Look at El Hazard. It's Isekai AND it's Harem but it was great. And why? Because it actually had a plot that went somewhere, characters with real personalities beyond wanting the MC dick and was before anything else an actual fantasy adventure.

Also the "villain" was the best character. This nigga was great. watch the dub

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>>143704343

Id be mad and I see where you where coming from, but she was also kind of hilarious and genuinely cute so I actually kind of liked her. She and Jinnai made a great duo.

And I appreciate there was no redemption arc or anything sappy like that.

The TV version of 12K, but I can't remember what happened to the two other bitches

>>143704300
Well there has been some rumors that the guy who did the WN of shield hero was accused of having touched a little girl but i don't know for sure. Perhaps another anon has info about it

>>143699422

it´s called Discworld saga.

>>143699422
This woman is pure uncut sex

>>143704388
>Class President is a megalomaniac that nobody respects

Where has this been all my life

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>>143699422
Also thanks op i wanted to post shields. The hiatus is killing me and OTS don't want to release the extra chapter that came with vol 6 of the manga for some reason

>>143704764

there's also psychotic lesbians and the hero has to cross dress

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oh and sexy insect queens

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>>143699422

Someone should make FF Tactics anime

>>143705085
It's escapism!

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>>143704388
"Oh no! Someone else has run out of alcohol"

I loved El Hazard back in the day and I think it still holds up today. The grand imagination and development of the setting, the characters and the complete story told over the course of 7 OAVs is setting me into nostalgia mode to this day. Also helps that the mc wasn't the one with the flashy superpowers.

I'm hoping to this day that we'd get fantasy animu in a well rounded package as this, but apparently, it ain't easy, only a few go into the same vein.

>>143704843
Don't forget the cat armor.

Digimon did it. For some values of "fantasy world".

>>143705085
>instead of the final episode, the studio airs a half-hour PSA about Japan's declining birthrate narrated by Marshe

>>143699422
>But what about multi-man isekai?
El hazard did it 20 years ago, 12 kingdoms did it some years later, is not a new thing

>>143705557
But Digimon wasn't about NEETs or videogames so it's fine

>>143707488

it was about merchandising which makes it directly related to both NEETs and videogames

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>>143699422
It seems to me like the massive popularity of lone otaku isekai is only a recent development. Multi-man isekai is pretty damn popular in shoujo.

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>>143700404
Considering his terrible taste in beards, you might be onto something there.

Mary a shit.

>>143709378
There's this LN about 3 HS friends caught up in a summoning circle meant for one of them and end up in another world. The Hero and his childhood friend go fight demons while the other guy who apparently stayed behind in relative safety turned out to be a modern magi and wend off his own path to find a way to return himself and his friends home.

It's called "This world's magic is too behind" by the way

>>143699422
Digimon

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>>143709378
Is shieldbro shoujo?

>>143710135
Something tells me "no".

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>>143709498
Mary a cute

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>>143711582
I wonder if it would if it was told from Raphtalia's side of the story.

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>>143700404
She's a total slut. If I'm not mistaken, in the LN she admits she broke up her last party by sleeping with all three men in it at the same time.

>>143711883

What is happening here?

>>143699422
>So isekai is generally about a single person
Where did this distinction come from? I mean, yeah, that's the most common setting, but it's not at all a rule.
It's just the elevens following the format of other popular web/light novels, without putting much original content into it.

Both are pretty much "isekai" anyways. Just a difference in details, but nips usually still use the same format and execution.

>>143703511
Because it's a very easy theme to write a power-fantasy in.
"This guy is just like you, and knows all the pop culture you do!"
"He's now a super genius baby, and became OP, using the same smarts YOU have!"
"This world also doesn't have a stigma against polygamy, so he can have a REAL harem!"

ect ect...

And because everyone writes about a D&D styled world, none of them really bother to do any world-building of any kind.

>>143699422
Konosuba has multiple people from Japan running around in the fantasy world. Most of them have some kind of overpowered weapon/talent and have affected the world in some way or other. Megumin's clan was made by a Japanese guy who was modifying people to boost their magic potential and abilities and gave them Chuuni names as a joke. Also the current Demon King is some Japanese guy who defeated the old one and took his job

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>>143709498

Mary a best

>>143699422
shield bro?

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>>143713484
Yes

>>143699422
Mushoku Tensei but the writing is terrible. It's full of cliché tropes, memes, and forces references. plus the MC has a shitty personality and is overpowered as fuck.

There's only 2 people from "our" world stuck in that world though, and one of them doesn't want to go back.

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>>143711883
>>143713465
>this much delusion

The bitch betrayed Best Boy, she deserves to be burned alive.

>>143704388
For the longest time I've looked for the perfect example of an evil protagonist and now realize that Jinnai is the perfect example of that.

An evil asshole who does horrible things but without any of the edge just hair brained schemes and megalomania

>>143703510
As it turns out most writers who write light novels suck at writing in general. That in itself is not surprising, what is surprising is that so many awful LNs continue to get anime adaptations.

>>143699422
Jesus, if I had an instructor like that, I'd be constantly hitting my groin into her ass until I came buckets. Then, she'll tease me and be insisting for her to remove my shorts because I'm too exhausted training. After removing, she'll see my penis covered in semen and be instantly cum on her tits.

>>143717096
As it turns out, most anons who pot shit like yours suck at posting in general. That in itself is not surprising. What is surprising is that so many awful posts continue to get posted.
You are right about the LNs however

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>>143702253
>There are WNs where an entire class gets transferred to another world, but these are usually to facilitate some kind of persecuted otaku revenge fantasy.
This. There's never one where they apply their combined knowledge to thrive, it all deviates into bullying, rape and murder, goddamn.

>>143718343
Lord of the flies bullying, rape and murder?

Arifureta seemed to be not going that way until it;s revealed that people got evil once they got magic power

>>143705085
Earth Tactics Advance is somewhat similar

>>143718343
There are some that I can't recall offhand since who wants to read something like that? I want my edge. Anyways, there is always one if you look.

>>143699422
We need Barbara doujins

>>143718343
You remind me of that manga about an MC that has to kill allies for a temporary power up.
The premise is already dumb as it is.

>>143699422
That would be called El Hazard.

>>143719365
Its geslleschaft blume or something like that

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>>143712491
None of those complaints apply to Isekai no Seikishi Monogatari.
The harem one kinda, but all of Kajishima's series have Harem End.

>>143715567

>ranta
>best anything

>>143699422
Needs more H manga

>>143715567
Fuck off faggot, Ranta is shit.

>>143712336
Barbara-sama's slutty adventures spin-off never.

Just end it famalam.

>>143715567
>Ranta
>best boy

I feel absolute agreement.

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>>143720404
>>143721244

>>143719365
>manga about an MC that has to kill allies for a temporary power up
Oh yea that one. It was an okeyish/decent edge simulator.

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>>143699422

Someone took their vitamins.

>>143719662
i never understood geslleschat blume. if theres a limit to like lv90-99-999 / real numbers. And the demon lord('s) are ridiculous non-real numbers whatever that means how are they gonna ever win? Are the slayers supposed to kill everyone on a level to powerup? are they supposed to walk around trying to chop up everyone they see lying on the street to powerup? is there like some button they press that kills everyone on x level? and it feels like the big bad and the good guys are basically the same people from what i've seen in recent chapters. the story itself is just pretty stupid. does the mc turn back on the other slayers like that other guy or what?

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>>143703554
It exists, it's called Twelve Kingdoms/Juuni Kokuki.

While there are a handful of chosen ones who makes the transit just fine and usually come over for a reason, there are a lot of people who come through accidentally and generally have a shit time because they have no grand destiny planned out and more importantly cannot speak the language of the new world.

Asano had a hard life.

>>143705085
Marche wasn't completely full of shit.

Mewt was kind of a tyrant and you can't just effectively overwrite and kill six billion people just because your fantasy world is rad. Albeit a fantasy world that's overrun with constant gang wars.

The game bungled the shit out of its morality because Marche's argument hinges on the world not being real when it pretty clearly is.

>>143724142
Can't you see it's not healthy?

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>>143715567
damn straight

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>>143726394
well i do hope this thread lasts till tomorrow but in case it isn't, see you later anons.

>>143723053

fuck off, Leeroy

>>143713465
This. I miss Grimgar already.

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>>143728808
Instant ED cure.

What was that isekai where it's an entire bus full of students and the MC has mind control powers?

It looked like it would be absolute trash but now I wanna read it.

Is it possible for an MC to be completely OP without also being a Mary Sue AND also not raise a lot of Frodos?

>>143699422
>that visible ass
Dear fuck.

>>143715181
>MC constantly whines about how weak he is
>is about the third strongest in the universe
>some people actually buy his whining and say it's not just another OP protag wankfest

>>143720304
Aura and Yukine are the best girls. Second place goes to Doll.