Why isn't anime badass anymore?

>>141832481
>Badass

You need to be at least 18 old to post on 4chan

Sao happened

>>141833065
More like SoL moeshit like gay-on.

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Anime became for faggots and pedophiles only

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>>141832481
Shut ins and their loudmouths now control the industry as the vocal minority.
>tfw we will never have animes like this
https://youtu.be/Wskhs2YMZJk

https://youtu.be/6lrl5Kj79u4
>tfw those types anime styles will never develop into this
https://youtu.be/PN_CP4SuoTU
>mfw

Still got it.

>>141832481
I would have liked to say that Akame ga Kill did it, but even that show was too half-assed, they should have keep the edge instead of going full shonen mode.

Thread is beyond shit.

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>>141833765
>I would have liked to say that Akame ga Kill did it
No KLK did

>>141832481
you should watch RE: Zero, it's legitimately brutal.

>>141833359
Was that a fucking demo reference? Is this whole thread a Demo reference?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4DcCVIPJJ0

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There's no imagination anymore. Only full-blown otaku pandering.

If it's over ten years old it's badass.

If it's new it's EDGY.

>>141836029
Well yeah. Ultra violent old OVAs where usually more creative with their settings than "Angsty Highscooler: The Self Insertion".

>>141832481
>What happened?
women

Is this one of those threads were people that don't know shit about anime circlejerk about the "good old days" while they mostly talk obscure as shit OVA?

>>141835930
What movie is this?

Didn't i hear that Yoshiaki Kawajiri still wants to make another Ninja Scroll movie but can't get the funding?

>>141835177
>Was that a fucking demo reference?
Yes.

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there are still lots of badass animes

there's just a lot more stuff being made in general so there's going to be way more shit as well
especially because such a huge part of the demo is really weak self-indulgent people with no taste for sex, violence or complexity in their anime

>>141836396

They were also almost universally shit, including the one in the OP, that's a minor point people tend to leave out of these threads.

>>141832481
Things like your pic are harder to distribute and sell, because of stupid shit like age ratings being allowed.

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>>141836477
SF Shingeki Lensman

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>>141833307
It hurts to live.

Anime nowadays focuses too much on trying to outdo the past and failing miserably at it. Take a look at Dragon Ball Super. I would rather rewatch the Buu Saga.

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quality thread op

>>141836845
They where shit but are enjoyable because of their 80s cheesyness. New shows that try their hand at gritty grimderp take themselves too seriously while still following shitty anime cliches by the numbers.

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>>141836942
On that note anyone dissapointed with 009 vs Devilman? Even Go Nagai has toned down his hyperviolence

>>141832481
Japan's economy happened

>>141837149
>using literally the only anime airing right now that is remotely similar to old anime as an example
>thinking this is proof of anything
try again kiddo

>>141836845
This. Every fucking "MANLY" gore OVA people jerk off is better left in the past.

>>141836859
I this anything more than a generic action movie that happens to be animated?

>>141837394
All generations of anime are garbage. The only good anime is the anime you enjoy. Your taste is shit.

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>>141837425
Too many problematic CIS white males for you buddy?

>>141837580
No, you.

>>141837425
It's got "alphas," anon, that makes it automatically good and creatively superior to a generic anything else.

>>141837583
Is there anything that even comes close to this style of beautiful matte backgrounds? That's the one thing that sticks out to me the most, that particular type of mechanical/electronic backgrounds with the lights and panels and weird wires and antennas and all that.

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>>141837717
Kenshiro is superior to whatever limp-wristed preteen edgelord void of principals your spineless numale ass self inserts as.

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>>141832481
nothing happened, you just aren't watching the right anime

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>>141837808
>self inserting

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>>141837745
I don't understand why they just died off in the late 90's or so, too much stuff looks bland as fuck these days with no detail.

Just a reminder that TV anime is shit and literally for children. OVAs and movies are the only viable formats for people who aren't autistic man children.

>>141837923
They also help rack up your watched anime count.

>>141837808
>Kenshiro
>good character
I swear nostalgiafags just want anime to be like Western blockbusters.

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>>141838030
All anime should be like mahou shoujo.

>>141837201

I liked the first episode, but the rest of it was pretty fucking lame

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>>141836860

>>141838030
Go to bed Akagi

>>141837923
OVAs are only a viable format if you're mentally fourteen and think quality is directly related to the amount of gore and death involved. Otherwise you run out of material pretty quickly.

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The driver is badass.

>>141832481
Japanese developed shit taste and it became all SoL and moeshit now

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I dont know why people think violent=good, its almost like there is only 14 years old turbonerds on this board.

Look to akame ga kill, 99% of the cast dead because the author cant write for shit and can only sell on shock value for edge 14 year old teens, is this what a badass anime is?

You guys are bad with your "muh violence, muh mature anime for mature and enlightened guys such as myself" in the same way autistic waifu fags are bad with waifufaggotry.

Neither side actually wants more quality, you just want anime to carter to your own refined brand of autism.

>>141833279
pornography is the most effective form of societal control.

>>141832481
>/v/ criclejerk

>>141839544
>I dont know why people think violent=good

Blame Game of Thrones

Everyone is a violent psychopath, killing and rape happen literally every milisecond and there are no colors besides shit brown and gray = mature

>>141839544
That's because AgK was practically softcore guro and now it isn't. I used to really love it but now that it's actually trying the series is falling apart.

>>141839808
Game of thrones isn't bad though, every main character that died had a perfectly fine set up for death and fit with their established character. Even if it come when you least expected it. At least for the first four seasons. Ned, Oberyn, Robb, Tywin, Joffrey and Robert all died in sensible ways.

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>>141840023
>Game of thrones isn't bad though

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>>141833279
>>141835930
>>141839335
Where did it all go so wrong?

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>>141840120
>gangsta
that's not even funny as a joke dude that anime bankrupted manglobe

>>141840103
>look at me with my contrarian opinions guys!!!
end yourself

>>141840206
>ASoIaF
>bad
>a contrarian opinion

You people are so up yourself.

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>>141840206
Shouldn't you be back on tumblr buddy?

>>141834957
yeah... hes died like 10 times now...

We are getting Drifters this year (from the creator of Hellsing):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4DcCVIPJJ0

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>>141839878

One of the only characters that I came to like was Bols because he at least seemed somewhat human and not just a caricature, of course such a thing would never be allowed in agk and he and his family were killed off.

>>141835930
Ugh I'm flashing back to that manga from Junji Ito

>people honestly think otaku pandering is a new thing

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>>141832481
>What happened?
People grew up and got bored of edgy teenage shit

>>141841048
>People grew up
More like grew out, and the millennial demographic replaced the target audience.

>>141840374
Man, last Sunday's episode was painfully predictable in every way

>>141840992
It's not old or new, it's something that doesn't actually exist.

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I too miss these non existent old days

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>>141841255
How would the main driving force behind the entire anime industry not exist, Jaden?

>>141841339
Why do people use this image like it represents all the studios and writers in japan

>>141841339
There's that image again.

The studio in question has basically never produced anything, he is not speaking on behalf of the entire industry, and there were and are people making "non-otaku" anime all the time, so his complaints are groundless.

Someone is not pandering just because they're making something you personally don't like.

>>141837917
think harder, what happened in Japan during the 90s. jesus crisis weebs are so tunnel vision

>>141840374
god that one snapping is the worst

>>141837917
>too much stuff looks bland as fuck these days with no detail.
Look at some other anime from 90/80s and you will see that on average they even blander than now

>>141836516
Yes. He made a teaser trailer to drum up funding but nobody's biting.

>>141837917
>too much stuff looks bland as fuck these days with no detail
The quality of background art in TV anime has gone up by leaps and bounds, and you sure as shit can't accuse it of lacking detail.

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>>141832481

>>141841863
What's bottom right and the one above it?

>>141841448
I've always wondered, did that owner describe what he personally wanted to make? I mean, for all I know he could be the world's biggest advocate of yaoi bungee-jumping hentai.

>>141836516
That's what happens when you don't do anything for fifteen years and the studio you work at goes bankrupt in the meantime.

>>141837583
I need to look this up. The aesthetic is gorgeous. I can't believe there are kids who will talk shit on this in favor of modern anime.

>>141841927
Anon, zoom in on bottom-right a bit, I guarantee you can recognize it.

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I thought illya was pretty bad ass

>>141841968
He seemed to want anime for the general public, which of course was being made and still is.

>>141833117
Moe has a very small niche market, there's no way it can ever have such a huge effect of the whole industry

Stop blaming the non factors

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>>141833307
>that Star Wars video
>that music
Holy fuck that was great

>>141832481
I think its because in the 80's and 90's, movies and cartoons were just..... different, y'know? they all have that weird feel to them? I think that's what changed

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>>141842030
I can't understand why this movie isn't more legendary and didn't get a bunch of sequels

Absolute fucking joy to watch, has mostly nothing to do with the original pulp stories but what the fuck ever

>>141842100
That's so broad, though. It just seems silly that people assume this literally who whose name they aren't even given in the photo would have made something good, let alone cater exactly to their tastes, just because he apparently doesn't like what he's making right now.

>>141842120
>....
Fuck off.

>>141842124
The couple clips that have been posted remind me of portions of the first part of FF7. More specifically, the raids on the Mako reactors and the escape from Shinra HQ.

>>141842124
>>141837583
>>141836859
Literally Han Solo and and Chewbacca in mindless pewpewpew action.

>>141842164
Many people are incredibly deluded and think everyone that makes anime, manga and videogames really want to make stuff like "mature and deep stuff" like "the good old days" and not what they currently enjoy doing

>>141842221
spot the woman

>>141840374
What is that finger snapping fucking fuck.

>>141842336
>everyone who doesn't like my 80s action schlock is a pussy!
And you people have the gall to act like you're the last bastion of sophisticated taste or something.

>>141840120
You're pretty good.

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>>141842413
You sound like a pussy who looks down on movies like Die Hard or Predator for not being sophisticated enough for you as you sit in your fedora drinking a wine cooler watching some gobbledygook Dutch black and white "cinematic presentation" followed by playing Gone Home and The Last of Us.

>>141842208
Why are you so bothered by a simple ellipses?

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>>141842413
you're aware Lensman is basically a more off the wall apeshit version of Star Wars written by an insane scientist right? Japan did their own thing with it but first and foremost the principle objective should be to deliver on action and adventure which from these webms this anime seems to have accomplished.

>>141842557
You sound like an American.

>>141842362
liberals prefer to snap instead of clap because clapping can trigger other liberals' made-up anxieties
It began in poetry clubs since that's where they congregated back in the 20th century before social media was around

>>141842557
Having non-lowest common denominator taste doesn't make you a hipster.

>>141842838
Sure seems to be the case in your situation buddy.
I bet you're the type of person who legitimately hates Kenshiro for being a 'moralfag'

>>141842320
Most Westerners have this idea that creators and fans (otaku) are totally different, mutually exclusive groups of people in Japan. The creators want to make stuff like Akira, GitS, Bebop, Angel's Egg and Evangelion (exactly the kind of anime that Westerners are into, what a coincidence). The fans are nothing but whiny manchild hyper-consumers who just want tits, panties and uguu, and every time the creators provide those they are merely engaged in pandering.

In reality, the difference between creators and fans is non-existent in Japan.

>>141842881
If it were any modern protagonist with muscles that aren't bigger than my head, you'd be in those greentext threads calling him a pussy moralfag, but when someone from the 80s does it it's immune to criticism.

>>141842557
>Last of Us
>sophisticated
Maybe for video game standards, but this isn't \v\.

>>141842557
Honestly, if anyone held up Die Hard and Predator as the fucking apexes of the medium that we should be striving to return to, I'd be right there with that anon in looking down on those faggots. Silly manly action is fun and all, but nostalgiafags make it out to be somehow the pinnacle of art while everything else is pandering kiddie shit, and that's just laughable.

>>141843033
Spot the numale. How many DRUMPF protests ya been too lately?

>>141837394
Oh fuck you. Angel Cop is great.

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>>141842987
>you'd be in those greentext threads calling him a pussy moralfag

Nope, because modern anime protags have no morals, and when they do they sure as fuck aren't like Kenshiro's. I'd watch tokusatsu if I wanted actual heroism in Japanese media.

>>141843087
You're really invested in calling anyone who doesn't agree with you an SJW/hipster.

>>141843140
>modern anime protags have no morals
They sure as fuck do, it's what people complain about all the time. "HE'S TOO PRUDE ABOUT SEX," "HE DOESN'T KILL HIS ENEMIES," "HE SHOULD BE SLAPPING EVERYONE MORE."

>>141843143
Well let's be honest, if you legit don't think Die Hard and Predator aren't at the very least 9/10 movies you can' call yourself male.

>>141832481
the new jojo is pretty good. i say this as some one who stopped watching the original series after episode 6 only to pick it back up for the last couple to see how it ended

>>141843227
What are people like this even doing on a board like /a/?

>>141832481
Kyoani saved anime is what happened

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>>141843335
Fuck off.

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>>141837149

You've to be more specific next time.

>>141832707
You do realize what site your on right?

>>141833307
>Otaking
Opinion immediately discarded.

>>141833307
>Star Wars

Congratulations. You just blew up a medical ship.

You fucktards.

>>141832481
>badass = bloodshed
Well, a massive backlash against the evil animus happened, so it's generally avoided.
And besides, massacre stuff was always rare, it's just that in the 90s tons of OVA were made that catered in some way to Americans, so they were more violent.
Also, stuff like Blood-C is still being made.
Typical distorted nostalgia crap.

>>141841927
The one above it is Gundam Unicorn, I'm certain you can recognise bottm right if you try.
I'm not entirely sure what the one to the right of Hyougemono is, Break Blade? And on top and bottom of Steins;Gate I'm drawing complete blanks.

>>141833307
>tfw those types anime styles will never develop into this
Good.

>>141838030
What do you expect, they grew up with stuff tailormade for the American japanimation fans.
They refuse to realize that it was always a minority of the market.

>>141843851
OVAs weren't made for Americans. They simply did not have any content restrictions like television anime does.

>>141839808
>blame GoT
For a trend was was strong in the 90s?
Hell, think of GoT whatever you want, it's still one of the better violence-festivals.

>>141837809
>Posting as decade old show
Pajeet pls

>>141832481
You're watching the wrong kinds of anime.

>>141843914
top is valvrave

>>141833307
>animes

>>141844109
Absolutely no way.
Different art style, the machine might be red and green but it looks nothing like VVV I Hito. There weren't any interfaces like those in Valvrave either.

>>141844171
It's Tiger & Bunny

>>141832481
Provide specific examples instead of a single baseless assertion if you want to have an adult conversation

>>141844201
Makes sense, thanks.

>>141843227
They are good ACTION movies.
They do pretty much everything right in being some of the finest examples of that genre.
But, surprise, they suck at everything else, because they mercifully don't try to be much else.
The problem is less people being nostalgic about the action stuff (especially since RL action stuff sucks these days, give me some old Arnold or Jackie Chan movies over those any day), but, as said, that nostalgiafaggots (especially amongst the animu fandom) think it's everything there should be, because they were 16 years old edgy teenagers listening to Linkin Park and reading Rob Liefeld comics when the 90s-animu-wave hit.
And that would be fucking boring and monotonous.

>>141833117
>keion started moe
You know nothing about anime.

Berserk airing this Summer should get you excited if anything, anon.

Jojo Part 4 has had plenty of gore up til now.

There's even a scene where a dude bites a dog's head off and spits the blood from the head in the dog's owner's mouth.

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>>141832481
We stopped having protags who are old enough to have left school. Even in pure fantasy or scifi settings, there will be Japanese highschool out of nowhere.

Pic related -- rare exception.

>>141844481
K-On ruined anime: >>141840120

>>141844679
Because Giant Killling was such a hardcore badass anime.

>>141838101
I don't like that image please delete it

>>141837745
I like those more broken down wires and pipes depictions of the future rather than the shiny hologram spotless apple products future we get now.

these threads are always the same

its a mix of

>i don't like to research anime and watch a lot of it and truly know the genre, i rely on other people to do that for me and just watch what's popular on /a/
>that means i can name old series that are like this easier than I can name new series that are like this
>my ignorance has tricked me into believing that there are no new animes

and

>i'm too retarded to accept that popular tropes and aesthetics change over time
>i am a fucking hipsters and never satisfied with what is current and popular

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>>141844880
Is there a name for the future looking like broken down rusty shit? Or is that just 'industrial'? VOTOMs had that look too.

>>141841325
The point isn't that we think this stuff was the majority of what was made. It's that there was a time in which it was made at all. There simply is nothing now that is comparable to the high quality ovas of the late 80s and early 90s.

>>141843531

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But we still get good stuff.
And the old stuff was full of shit as well.

>>141833307
TIE Fighter is pretty fucking good though.
I hate how everything is rotoscoped making the movement feel so weird, but the guy worked over 3 years for this and there is definitely some passion.

>>141844995
>i am a fucking hipsters and never satisfied with what is current and popular

Sooo /a/?

>>141845213

boku no google

>>141845213
metadata

>>141832481
>badass
Kill yourself you fucking 12.

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>>141832481
>blood=badass
Are you 12? Like what, Poopa, Akame ga shit, Chaos Dragon, Freezing?
Guess what they have in commmon? They're the worst manga and anime of the decade and not even good to laugh at, just plain dogshit.
Gb2Gaia faggot or lurk more.
>>141833117
>moeshit
>>141839878
>I used to really love it
Holy mother of shit fucking taste the weekend summer is strong.

>>141844995
>popular tropes and aesthetics change over time

This is huge and I don't see it come up that much. all these webms look dated as fuck, which has come to be cool now. I think we're moving to a new cyperpunk trend with gits getting an awful Hollywood reboot along with a blade runner sequel. vaporwave gaining popularity could also be pointed to as evidence of the comeback. Anime will probably put out some 80s aesthetic shit too.

>>141846715
A new something sure, but not necessarily cyberpunk (emphasis punk). The current sci-fi trend is more towards a 'cleaner, smoother and less gruff' aesthetics. At least that's the impression I'm getting.

>>141846834
It definitely has been, but i think we're going to see a return to slums and grittiness because things have been moving to the cleaner side for years. at least I hope so.

>>141840374
>Giving a shit about Osha anymore
>Cheering for Daenerys "LITERAL FUCK UP" Targaryen

>wakemeup.jpeg

I urge you to compare any season from the 1980's to a recent one. Aside from OVA's, there really wasn't too much airing for adults at all. The past was not as good for anime as you think.

>>141832481
The gore has to be animated. Ain't nobody got the budget for more animation.

>>141847722
The fight scenes in Kabaneri have to be animated too. Everything has to be animated.

>>141844481
they started its ruin. Fridge moe up the entire show with no plot or substance whatsoever

>>141847854
Have you ever considered the idea that you are pretentious and superficial? And what do you think moe anime is generally about anyway? I didn't see a lot of plot in Minami-ke and Ichigo Marshmallow either.

>>141838498
crying about your dead kid is not badass.

>>141832481
moeshit happened

>>141848034
have you considered that you have issues when you start judging others as superficial while keeping yourself high up on a pedestal away from judgement and criticism ? I dont have to be superficial to KNOW your favorite shows are shit but if it helps you come to terms then call me whatever you want. There is positive, negative and something people often forget which is neutral ground. Not everyone is your enemy just because they see one aspect of your life as total shit

An entire season of nothing happening doesnt amount to a show. SoL is the Reality Tv of anime. enjoy your jersey shore

>>141848239
This. >>141840120

>>141846987
The thing is that as technology progresses, the classic cyberpunk aesthetic becomes less and less representative of what our future might look like.

Fiction imitates reality, and with the current real-life trends toward minimalism, wireless portable tech and clean-looking computers and robots, current sci-fi works draw from that rather than the clunky, gritty, outdated cyberpunk look.

>>141848239
Did you mean "Chuunishit happened"?

>>141840120
Saved.

>>141847293
>Aside from OVA's, there really wasn't too much airing for adults at all.

That's bullshit, you'd know if you actually watched the stuff. The kids shows of the time have more worth while in them than the 'mature' but mostly bland OVAs.

>>141848531
He didn't say anything about quality of those kids shows, calm down.

>>141848676
>The past was not as good for anime as you think.

Yeah, fuck your mom too.

>>141848797
Brush up on your reading comprehension and contextual awareness.

>>141840120
What anime is that on the right side, 2nd last row in the middle?

>>141849027
Zankyou no Terror.

>>141842124

link for torrent? I prefer sub one

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>>141836657
ma nigga

>>141838030
>Kenshiro
>Not good character
You can pinpoint the exact moment shitposting started

>>141832481
The shock value wore out.

>>141832707
> Badass.
Because everyone now in anime are pussy.

because new world order want everyone pussyif and can Fight back.

Why do I keep see thread about people bitch about big boobs your fucking nuts it big boobs are best thing in the word.

>>141842557
>"cinematic presentation"
It's called kino you low-grade memer.

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>>141848282
what the fuck is this post

>>141848282
>An entire season of nothing happening doesnt amount to a show.
You've never actually watched SoL shows, have you?

Anime costs a lot of money to make.

>>141849408
Not him, but you should kill yourself for having a cancerous taste like this.