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Why is there no middle ground between sexually impotent and a literal rapist in fantasy manga? Can mangaka really not comprehend how to naturally transition into 2 people having sex? In a lot of western stuff with heroes you have them generally having one-night stands with grateful peasant bitches or some rescued princess.

And this isn't exactly new either. I remember reading Bakuretsu Hunters and the MC, a self-proclaimed playboy and womanizer, spends the entire series trying to fuck the women he helps, only to be met with comedic foil from his 2 femdom bitch childhood friends. Eventually, near the end, he's finally about to stick his dick in a girl and chickens out at the last second saying "I have someone I like". He spent the entire fucking series trying to coerce the women he rescued into sex and pussies out at the end. He doesn't even have sex with the childhood friend that he chooses. The only time he gets laid is in the absent space between the original manga and the sequel.

It's particularly frustrating when the plot of the manga includes sex as a central component. Or when the characters are legally married and they still wait for some reason. It seems strange to be fighting life and death battles everyday and nobody brings up "I don't want to die a virgin".
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>>141724441
Japanese mindset is pretty fucked up when it comes to this sort of things. Then again, US of A is still stuck with that puritan complex, so it's not the only country that seems to have a problem with casual boning.
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>>141724441
Yeah they are retarded.
Like it's a big stuff to have sex when it's not.
Normalfag have sex around 2-3 times per week when they are young,have a girlfriend or go out.
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Considering the best fantasy manga has a pretty well done romance, even with consensual sex in the missionary position that results in procreation, I don't really know what to tell you.
I mean, there's lots of rape in it, too, but there's a teensy bit of "normal" stuff here and there.

The reason it's relatively rare in modern fantasy manga is that most fantasy stories are isekai or shounen, which will basically never have explicit sex. It's just not part of the demographic. Seinen series tend to have more sexual content but, even then, it's not pretty common for characters to sleep around a whole ton - simply because Japanese literature doesn't focus on things in general very much. Many manga series also bank strongly on teasing and sexual tension, so those plotlines will not be resolved until the end of the story, because they keep the readers invested.
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>>141724441
In Berserk, Casca and Guts have a sweet, consensual sex scene.
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>>141724783
That results in the blessing of a sweet child
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>>141724441
>Can mangaka really not comprehend how to naturally transition into 2 people having sex?
You think they would be mangaka if they did?
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>>141724441
I like it. Nice change of pace from the overly casual and shameless attitude of western stuff. The whole confession thing is really sweet, too. People just ask each other out extremely casually in the west.
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>>141724441
Those two are boring characters anyway.

Regular porn is still the best.
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>>141724441
Pretty sure that sex is going to be the endgame of this series despite the MC being fucking married to four girls who are all over his dick.
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>>141724441
Read interview with Asano on animenewsnetwork.
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>>141724441

>Why is there no middle ground between sexually impotent and a literal rapist in fantasy manga?
>It's particularly frustrating when the plot of the manga includes sex as a central component.

Because most mangakas are kissless virgins that dont know about human relationships. The " the plot of the manga includes sex as a central component." is just trend for make the medium "more mature" but is hilarious because most characters: females are prostitutes and males are scared for holding hands and stay pures forever.
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>>141726865
>Because most mangakas are kissless virgins that dont know about human relationships.
Most mangakas and artists are married, autist. If you draw guro, that doesn't mean you are serial killer
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>>141724783

Berserk only have one explicit page of 37 books
since 1988
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>>141726564

>Inio Asano
Are there sex in Dead Dead Demons Dededededestruction ? Dropped the manga weeks ago
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>>141727070
>DDDD
>Dropped
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>>141724763

There are mangas with consensual sex but the average /a/ dont care outside of Shonen Jump bubble and LNs
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>>141724441

Shounen is shit like the Adventure Time cartoon, do you expect to see sex in it?

But yeah it's a bit retarded that explicit ecchi and faservice like naked chicks wrestling each other and moaning covered in oil is considered age 12-14 but if you suddenly say two people had sex it goes straight into 18+. You can blame japan's half-assed perversion culture.
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>>141724441
fantasy is based in the middle ages and in the middle ages that was basically it.

I mean there was courtly love, but that was just in fiction. If female, you are married to the guy whether he was good to you are not and if the local barbarian hoard came and abducted you you'll probably be his breeding stock for life.
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I also find it very strange that characters who don't particularly love each other can't have sex unless one of them is being raped.

It's very rare to see two adult characters that are not in love and just happen to be friends, coworkers or acquaintances who enjoy each other's company and go out together to have sex once in a while.
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>>141727940
>casual sex
Keep this shit out
The west is already saturated with this shit
This is why western shows can never do romance right
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>>141728386
This. Absolutely this.
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>>141727463
Adventure time had plenty of implied sex, subtly or otherwise.

But you are right, Is really rare to see two characters even imply they are in an active sexual relationship.
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>>141724441
New chapter never.
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>>141729477
Jake and Lady Raincorn have had many many implications that they have sex. So many I'm actually surprised the network let them keep getting away with it.
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>>141727463
it's funny because it's sister manga shoujo tends to have sex scenes quite often
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>>141727940
>>141728386
I read a chink novel called Warlock in Magus world where where the MC was transported into a medieval world and everyone there tend to have casual sex constantly, including the MC

though there was no real romantic sub-plots at all and the MC mostly just keeps a professional relationship with the girls he fucked.
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Keep in mind these same people used a woman falling on a bed with her hair free as an implication of rough passionate sex or rape
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>>141727138
>not DDDDropped
You blew it
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>>141724441
I can understand the girls cockblocking because they want to be first, but this manga has the MC being betamus maximus for absolutely no good reason other than to draw this shit out. He leaped from cool guy to insufferable idiot no one could relate to and back and forth.

I still read it for the girls, but ideally this should be h-manga.
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>>141724733
But we are otakus. We don't want to be reminded of normal fags.
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>>141728386
>The west is already saturated with this shit
So what?
The west is saturated with basically everything, and i don't give a fuck about western shows, this thread is about anime and i'm talking about anime.

>This is why western shows can never do romance right
False, a lot of western shows did romance very well, and saying that if adult series start depicting casual sex -a completely common and natural human behaviour- then the entire industry will become worse, is a very stupid generalization and a fallacy.

It isn't either casual sex or romance, it's possible to have both if done right, and sincerely, most anime romance are cringeworthy garbage anyways. It'd be an improvement if producers dropped this idea and started focusing more on characters that have casual sex and keep a professional relationship outside of the bedroom.
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Insecure kimowota want the protagonist to fit one of two very precise molds: their own insecure self, or their juvenile idea of a badass, i.e. a sociopathic rapist asshole.
Japan as a whole is obsessed with fitting into molds, but kimowota take it to a whole new level.
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>>141732239
It's one reason why people like anime in the first place. Away with you 3dpd-normie roastie.
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>>141724441
Impotent rage is often a cause for rape, anon. There is no middle ground.
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>>141726564
>Japanese man admitting sex is normal
Amazing
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>>141724441
It's probably not that that they are not capable of it, but they just can't because muh purity jap faggots that would start to boycott the series just because their waifu had sex with a man.
I mean, just look at kannagi or what is happening to love live.
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>>141732656
Those are completely different situations. There's rarely any rage when a female character has sex outside of a few understandable situations that /a/ likes to blow out of proportion.
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>>141732543
Isn't Inio Asano a woman now?
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>>141724441
>this thread again
Jesus Christ, guys, how many times do you have to discuss this before you just come to terms with it.
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>>141734797
No. That was entirely bullshit, ANN or whoever reported it was taking a joke comment out of context because they're idiots.
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>>141727463
>>141730438
Fucking josei manga where the woman and man fuck every 2-5 chapters in between plot is how things should work. For some reason the main guy and girl will only have sex like once in the entire manga, they'll kiss maybe like 5 times. Whereas in real life sex is practically a daily routine and you kiss your lover like 8 times a day, more on dates.
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>>141732543
>author says the reason sex isn't common isn't because it's taboo but just because it isn't conventionally expected in certain genres
>anon's response is "holy shit, a Jap who thinks sex is normal!"
The irony is overwhelming.
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>>141735016
>Fucking josei manga where the woman and man fuck every 2-5 chapters in between plot is how things should work.
What? Why? Why do you need sex scenes every 2-5 chapters? I mean, I don't have anything against it, but that just seems like a really dumb statement if you apply it on any sort of wide scale.
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>>141735126
Romance + SOL = frequent sex scenes

And also sex is a good mechanism to wind down after conflict and offer insight through monologue during the act.
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>>141735234
>Romance + SOL = frequent sex scenes
No, it doesn't? That'd be even more restricting than "people can never have sex ever". Like, Bonnouji's one of the best romance SOL, and I think they only had on-panel sex once.
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As much as an edgelord the Yakushoku Distopiary guy is, I find the amount of sex he has quite satisfactory. He's not a rapist or a scumbag about it or anything, and he's giving them some happiness before he kills them.

If the plot requires him to go around in fantasy parties and fight monsters it should be expected that he can have sex with his companions along the way.
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>>141735327
After they had sex the first time most subsequent chapters implied their regular intercourse.
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>>141735425
Implications are not a sex scene.
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>>141735366
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You'd be surprised at how many manga dip in quality once the relationship is consummated
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>>141735366
>He's not a rapist or a scumbag about it or anything
Aside from the part where he let a girl he was planning to kill think he was romantically interested in her and might marry her.
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>>141735447
Now you're just being picky about the wording. They're clearly having sex quite frequently and that's all that matters.

But Bonnouji wasn't even a good romance anyways. It was more focused on the SOL than their feelings.
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>>141735505
And how does that make him a scumbag? He probably was romantically interested in her, but it's his job/destiny to kill her. How do you know his feelings were faked?
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>>141735555
>Now you're just being picky about the wording. They're clearly having sex quite frequently and that's all that matters.
No, see, they're quite different. For one, implications don't usually do the things >>141735234 mentioned that sex scenes do, and for another implications are often received very differently by audiences and more easily allowed/tolerated by semi-puritans.

There's really two pieces here - the one piece is sex happening, and the other is it being shown.
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>>141735682
They both have the same frequency of nonoccurrence. There's really not much else to talk about. There are hardly any manga that utilize fade-to-blacks too.

You're being picky about the wording. Just drop "scene" from the statement okay?
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>>141735612
>How does falsely giving someone the impression you might marry them make you a scumbag?
If this isn't self-apparent to you then I think we just need to agree to disagree.
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>>141735758
>You're being picky about the wording. Just drop "scene" from the statement okay?
I mean, sure, but then the reasons you gave no longer apply.
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>>141724441
Agreed. And lets make all women in manga total whores to reflect reality.
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>>141724441

>hey if you win this fight I'll fuck you
>awesome
>actually never mind, later

I'm still fucking mad.
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