It looks like these threads might be finally winding down. It seems like everything worth discussing has been discussed. Unless something major happens, I don't think these threads will have the steam to last until the big Schwarzesmarken event on June 18th.
Also, just for fun, a strawpoll. What VN do you want age to work on after Martyrs:
First for Irisdina a cute!
Since the first draft didn't go over as well as i would have liked, revised. Also it was only up for a little while.
Beatrix is locked into her final fight with Theo. She crashes into the buildings below her, and her cockpit goes dead. She pulls aimlessly at the controls, when suddenly, Theo's knife cuts into her, the searing pain ripping through her body. She awakens, sitting upright, in the large bed she has stuffed into her small duplex apartment. Her husband, Jurgen, is still lying asleep next to her, his arm draped over her lap. At the foot of her bed, the baby is still asleep in its crib. She looks around, bewildered, eyes slowly adjusting to the darkness. She takes a deep breath, slowly letting the air out, and starts crying. Jurgen wakes up, sits up, and wraps her in a warm embrace.
"What is it? What's wrong?"
"I died again."
"It was just a dream."
"I... I know."
Beatrix sinks back onto the mattress and lies there quietly for a while. Jurgen, who is now both awake and sitting over her, gazes into her eyes and brushes her hair away from her cheek. He leans over, and plants a light kiss on her forehead. Beatrix smiles weakly. She lies there for a while, just taking everything in. Somewhere a few blocks away, there is a delivery truck pulling into one of the local shops, its backup siren echoing through the stillness of the night, and waking up the songbirds roosting around the duplex. Neither noise particularly bothers her. Even the truck's siren gives everything a sense of peaceful normality. Jurgen lies down on the bed beside her. He's sniffing her hair again. Beatrix doesn't mind this sort of thing, but she's pretty sure it's not normal, at least, not the way he does it. She lets out something halfway between a sigh and a chuckle. Normal or not, this is certainly better than the alternative.
Who /NVA/ here?
I was born 15 months before the wall fell but here, have a Stasimouto
Blue and white.
>tfw I'm going to ruin the body of the sexiest women west of the Oder-Neiss in Martyrs
>implying it won't just be like pic related
Even if she is a secondary, Gretel will always be the main heroine of my heart
Someone needed to be saved in the name of love
Still, by the time it happened Beatrix was new in the Stasi and was affected by Jurgen''s death. So she probably saw on them the relationship she had with Jurgen
How much Beatrix and Gretel knew each other?
I want to see more interactions between the two girls
Beatrix was the reason why Gretel hated the stasi. Beatrix got kind of touchy with Gretel when she was intimidating her (like hugging her, stroking her cheek, and just fucking with her head).
>like hugging her, stroking her cheek, and just fucking with her head
>Muv-Luv / Total Eclipse / Schwarzesmarken
>Every thread is just Schwar
>No love for TE
I see what you guys are doing.
This is sad.
Cheer up friend. Tru-rabu never dies.
Nah, it just regroups on the other side.
>like hugging her, stroking her cheek, and just fucking with her head
So a just a troll and not a sadist? Seems still redeemable to me, at least in '78 that is.
And what would you have us discuss here about TE?
That's messed up, poor girl. Still can't help but wonder just how much info on her backstory they're going to include in Martyrs.
Nice resolution on that
Is that...Shotadore? What is he doing in uniform?
There are plenty of TE lovers here, don't worry.
desu we discuss TE somewhat here, don't worry.
Well for one, they're sort of rivals because Bea is Stasi, and Gretel is the Party. Gretel is scared of her, even though she knows how to do a lot of the same stuff.
>Nice resolution on that
You missed out on that one Chinkfag dumping HR scans a while ago, didn't you.
>666th get to have snowball fights
What do the Werewolves do on a day off?
Be happy that they'll only be dealing with old nightmares during their sleep instead of fresh ones.
Depends. If this is anime Wolves, they probably pick on Lise, be huge bitches to one another, or abduct civilians to torture for shits and giggles.
Throw Tea parties with lots of tea and cakes.
You have to bear in mind that she wasn't just in school. That and back then, the Party was MUCH stronger. You didn't rub people like her the wrong way.
Gretel has had the misfortune to come into a commisariat role at a time when the Party's authority started to wane against the unity of the military and Stasi.
There will be fresh nightmares.
They can never truly end.
Beato is seriously godlike at trolling. The way she does it seriously throws people for a complete loop, since they can't reconcile so many fundamentally different things from the same person.
Hurr durr I've only been in a special TSF school for elite samurai famiries, where we literally learn this stuff, whats a Laser-class?
The one you deleted silly. But if we wanna split hairs
>I kinda preferred the jerking off webm.
Oh that one? My connection got cut when I was downloading from the archive and I didn't notice it until after I've already upload that. No intention to make a short jerking loop from the very start.
If they do somehow make a sequel i really wonder how they would make it without the g element fuckery or based yuuko. or a fucker from draft exempt being put into military.
She is still part of the FDJ since the organization was for people up to 25 years
And I think that the blue shirt looks good on her
Type-00 Takemikazuchi is the best TSF there is, no substitutions, arguments, or debates.
No, the split point is at Unlimited.
Alternative was the split. TDA is after the failure of Alt IV, and the proceeding of Alt V, as far as I can surmise.
Alternative basically is one shotted, over because of various circumstances.
Yui a shit
Didn't you watch TE? She's a gigantic cunt at the start of the series.
Ah, but turns out there are hidden depths to our un-hero. And he calls out Yui's bullshit eventually. Turns out she really is just a cunt and a spoiled brat who can't stand things not going her way.
If Yuuya was such a bad person, why does everyone else get along with him great?
Look, anon, at least me, I'm not saying she's hated by me. But she is a pretty horrible human being.
By the time she starts realizing how horrible she's been, it's way too late. The only reason she gets ANY traction is because they made Yuuya practically oblivious or such to everyone else.
>Turns out she really is just a cunt and a spoiled brat who can't stand things not going her way.
She isn't. And if you actually watched TE instead of looking ate random screenshots you'd know that.
I said Yuuya, not Yui. Read again, friendo.
First of all, spoiled does not even begin to describe Yuuya. And when the series begins, Yuuya already learned from the time in his life when he fell into that thought process, and it cost someone dear to him their life.
Conceited? Yes, a bit still. Confident in his skills? All bluster, he's nervous as hell that he won't do as good in a real fight. Blunt? Quite. Spoiled brat who can't stand things not going his way? That doesn't describe Yuuya at all. He takes problems given to him by the horns, and works with them, even when he doesn't want to (in other words, the initial "banishment" to Alaska). And he puts himself 110% into that task.
Turns out Yuuya knows what he's talking about when it comes to being a pilot, and perfectly points out the utterly glaring flaw in Yui's, and by extension, her nation's approach to TSFs - that when it's an upgrade package trying to squeeze Gen 3 capability out of a Gen 2 machine, and when only elites are able to pilot the damn things, it's an utterly useless weapon trying to do too many things with too little, and that is going to get a lot of good people killed. And as he said, he'd be damned if he lets any people die in a TSF he tested.
High sensitivity isn't a flaw and all Japanese pilots get the training to use it properly. Yuuya was just complaining because he wasn't skilled enough to use a successful machine.
What's contemporary Anette doing?
Fuck no, Iris is shit.
Yui is worth two girls though I guess.
What do you mean by contemporary, like TE era, TDA, healanon universe?
These days I can't tell what timeline people are talking about. Hell I can't even keep 'em straight anymore.
>get off the ride once its done
God TE is so bad. The plot is stupid and nothing like Muv-luv, the characters are all bland boring stereotypes, barely any action and far removed from anything related to Muv-luv.
So Beatrix is the big proponent of giving the UN more bite and of erasing nationalism and presenting a unified front against the BETA while Iris is a nationalist who believes that the world doesn't want a unified Germany because it'll be too awesome and hates both the UN and western powers; why is Beatrix considered more evil/wrong than the rebels again?
Outside of the anime, which has this little gem, body count and amorality. But then again most of the haters don't hate Yuuko, who is basically a smarter version, with a morality chain and in a far less toxic environment.
There are a couple who are consistent on their morals, but they seem to forget that the plot of Alternative had the message that the right choice isn't always the correct one, and that sometimes great sacrifices are necessary.
>message that the right choice isn't always the correct one, and that sometimes great sacrifices are necessary.
She says exactly the same shit to Jurgen when he was depressed (before goofing off to cheer him up), which he seemed to agree with:
>"Your decision may not have been the "good" choice, but it was the correct choice. History progresses on the sacrifices of people, does it not?"
Really, I find her morality and predicament much more compelling than Katia's. Beatrix is in a really fucked up situation and desperation breeds amorality.
>Yuuko, who is basically a smarter version
A lot of the Japs say that had Beatrix become a scientist, she would have been equal to Yuuko, but thanks to Jurgen's influence, she went into TSF piloting instead.
>ベアトリクスが夕呼先生と同じ物理学(?)の天才だったら、 同じような生き方したかもな。代わりにベアトリクスには、デュルクに習って開花させたスパイの才能と 飛び込みで鍛えられた衛士の才能と なりふり構わないシスコンな彼氏がいたために、ああなっちまった。
>この３ヶ月早かった・・・ 夕呼先生≒ベア様とこのスレで見たせいか テオのロボット～のとこで何か考えすぎちゃったｗ
In any case, she's probably the most intelligent member of the cast (while Iris would probably be the most wise, ignoring the nationalism shit).
Thinking about it, Lise is also extremely intelligent (she's fluent in a couple of different languages at only 15/16, apparently) and is squandered in the stasi.
>Iris is a nationalist who believes that the world doesn't want a unified Germany because it'll be too awesome
But she is right
>I love Germany so much that I prefer to see two of them - spaghetti prime minister
You say that, but this actual dynamic played out between the A6M Zero and the F4F Wildcat, And long story short, focusing on pilot survivability and making the plane fairly easy to fly is why the Wildcat was a successful design and why Zero pilots ended up getting annihilated. "Git gud" is a terrible operator philosophy when there's no respawn.
That was one of the things that made this entire argument so entertaining to watch. As annoying and pigheaded as yui was, she was making a real argument used by real people.
Dont forget they ended TE with a superpower charge up then black screen...followed by a text saying Humanity won that day and Top Gun status is unknown.
Not even a closure on his story
Beatrix and Lise are still crazy good pilots. Beatrix herself can 1v4 the 666th and still almost win. I hear that the LN version is even more crazy, and still took down Annete and almost got Theo in a 1v2 melee despite missing an arm and having a damaged thruster.
Yui is a better pilot than either of them.
> "I can't live without you Jürgen, and you'd be lost without me, so I've decided I want to [help you by becoming] a TSF pilot"
Fucking GOAT material right here. Jürgen should have stuck a ring on her when he had a chance.
Probably. She's one of the best pilots in the world if she can stand next to the other Argos Flight members. Now Jürgen might give her more of a challenge, but even if he's the granddaddy of modern TSF fighting techniques, she's still absorbed 20 more years worth of TSF technique refinement than he has.
Assuming they're using the same tech, Yui would still come out on top, though it would be close. Beatrix is a very good pilot and probably the best one in Schwarzesmarken. Even so, Yui's been training her whole life for TSF combat. Furthermore, TSF pilots by Yui's time would generally be better than those in the 80's due to more refined piloting methods, and Yui is considered to be cream of the crop among that higher standard.
So if Beatrix didn't have all of her handicaps, how would the final fight have gone down in the LN?
Same. I'm just that good
I love how the thread just did a full pendulum swing from shitting on Yui to suddenly praising her.
Although it's probably just one guy samefagging like the one who always shits on the Shiranui.
Well they must be new because the last time anyone actually hated Yui was back when TE was still airing. Then Yui lost the Tortilla Chips and fapping to dead slavs became the hot new thing to hate.
Another major philosophical difference was very important: the US cycled out their pilots, especially their aces, to teach the next group of pilots. Kills also were spread around, instead of the flight lead being the one with the 'dibs' on the credit.
US aircraft also were hilariously tough overall. Read up on the P-47 Thunderbolts if you haven't already, alongside the P-40's. The Thunderbolt was known as the Juggernaut for a reason; the thing shrugged off hits that would have sent other aircraft down flaming.
Pure Pragmatism > Yamato Damashii.
Take that back.
>tfw you see one in real life
It's the most beautiful thing I've seen in this world.
This is best TSF.
Both are actually worse t.b.h
Always go with the logical plans that works even though there would be sacrifices.
Not some homicidal bullshit covered in the term of pragmatism or pride power nepotism bullshit
Your lack of faith disturbs me.
I like thick TSF's, I cannot lie, my other brothas can't deny...
>Thinking the F-22 looks bad
Holy fuck how many dicks do you suck a day anon?
You blind motherfucker. It's the sexiest thing in the sky.
And your Yuiposting pleases me since those Butt cheeks are divine.
Jap nobility is stil mostly useless though.
He's probably a fan of the 4th Gen designs, and I can't fault him; the F-15 and Fulcrum are aesthetically pleasing designs.
Anon, stating the obvious is not exactly arguing.
I guess you can say I was captn`ing.
Gen 3/4, and some highly specialized stuff like Blackbird which you can`t put into generations. There were gross uglies too like MiG-25/31, but then there was Su-27 and F-16.
If there is one thing that puts Jürgen above all other ML MCs, its his taste in Women.
>Actually liking eurocanards mk 2, french hissyfit boogaloo
You`re asking for impossible here. 29 wanted to look cool too, but was born a planelet.
There may be still a competition for the ugly crown in the fifth gen when T-50 gets an ass of its own and not some Flanker spare.
I thought it was his proactive rather than reactive attitude, his self-motivation, intelligence, sense of humor, and ability to actually play politics than just be a tool for others.
That's the spirit.
>"I can't live without you, Jurgen"
It's not like it wasn't already written on the walls. Her whole world revolved around Jurgen. He should have left her with a baby or something.
Only good thing the MiG-25 did was indirectly give us God's Plane
>his proactive rather than reactive attitude, his self-motivation, intelligence, sense of humor, and ability to actually play politics than just be a tool for others.
Too much talent in one package can be boring as well or rather is usually boring. Also, in the end quite a lot of people used him.
Being more attractive than the Eurofighter isn't exactly hard though, hell the Gripen does it. And I'm not exactly a fan of SAAB's designs in general. The Viggen is just vomit inducing to me for some reason, no idea why.
>I need to make sure that my baby will have a better future than my own.
Nah, the motivation would still be there to be a cunt. She likely wouldn't be as evil, but then again, Beatrix would probably be a believer in that sometimes you have to be evil so future generations don't have to deal with it.
Jurgen's ideals didn't seem that bad. They sound a lot like Katia's, just more pragmatic.
Axmann is a mastermind at politics. You can't really fault Jurgen for not being able to outsmart him. Any other ML protag would have been dancing in Axmann's fingertips or completely clueless (see Theo) instead of trying to stop him.
I think it's refreshing to have an ML protagonist who's at least a player in the game of politics, even if he gets outmaneuvered by guys like Abel. Even if he fails, that's a hell of a lot better than Takeru who never questions anyone or Yuuya who tries to ignore it (and then gets dragged in anyways).
And actually, he's not that perfect. He made mistakes and got half his squad killed in one of his operations.
Takeru's TDA appearance
I will never, NEVER find this not hilarious. He looks like he went full emo rock band edgy teenager, who blasts Linken Park all day and pretends to cut himself.
I know it's tempting to want a more assertive UN, when seeing the utter catastrophes our world's UN has presided over, but...well, it wouldn't necessarily be great. It could just as easily be our UN, except with big guns and even more Oil for Food scandals and raping children.
UN didn't really back anyone as an organization - both Alt IV and Alt V were ongoing. There were dedicatees of each.
She's pro-American, not pro-UN. Big difference.
Gretel wants the socialist world, wants an East Germany free from tyranny of the Stasi, but still wants supremacy of the Party, and continuation, nay spread of the proletarian dictatorship.
Iris wants an independent, and possibly wants socialistic East Germany, but without the elements that poison it. She's a nationalist first and foremost though.
Katia is sort of moe Bismark, she wants German unity under the principles of freedom, but wants a merger, wants to keep their character.
Beatrix utterly hates East Germany and hates communism, and wants to send them to the ash heap of history. She doesn't even care really for a united Germany, unless it's under the auspices of Washington. To her, defeating the BETA is the top consideration for humanity, whatever the cost, and that combined in her desire for freedom, Washington is her natural fit.
So you want another TE VN, is what you're saying, right?
I can get behind that.
Its not only that the baby would calm her down, but that it would take enough of her time to slow her career down to the point that she would have no power to influence the story. I believe this, since she doesn't seem the type to trust anyone else with her child after loosing Jürgen.
It is refreshing, but I do find this overflow of talent boring, but that's a matter of taste. But if the unreliable narration is there in BiS as well, it could be bias of the narrator, who could be Beatrix simply figuratively sucking his dick.
His mom was a gold-digger anyway who divorced his dad when his career hit a dead end. And rumour has it that her second husband was a Stasi member anyway.
>Not wanting to Unite the German Peoples under one Moeblob
Except, you know, it actually exists irl too, unlike the Type-00. Or the Shiruani for that matter.
I liked the YF-22 better, something seemed to have gotten lost in development, but I can't quite place what.
>tfw no F-20 TSF
The Chinks say Mercede's husband was stasi and say that's why he hated them. They also say he trips up quite a bit and puts his trust in the wrong people.
He's meant to be a Char expy anyways, so he takes a lot of Char's positives along with negatives. Had he survived and Beatrix died, I think he would have gone full CCA on the DDR.
>wanting to unite under a moeblob that cant shoot for survival on the ground
It is almost as if you want germany to become refugees and starve to death.
If she had fired in anger when she saw Vivi die then I would like her more.
She was also in East Germany for only 3 months. How can she be knowledgeable about the quagmire the DDR is in?
She's also only 15 years old. Being the daughter of some high ranking rebel shouldn't count for very much in this situation.
>Always has been
Sure, if you've been here all of three months ago.
I think you're confusing MAL with wikiafags still assblasted that their favorite girl didn't win the Yuuyas.
But why do you think Yui would win if given another VN? There's at least three other women for sure gunning for the Top Gun, and more if you count people not put front and center.
Don't you want to do your part for humanity and make Stella a mother?
>poster count doesn't go up as these replies are made
Uh huh. You should at least try to be less transparent.
That is true anon. I just was talking about the F-22 though. But yes, YF-23 is supremely sexy.
Well Yuuya isn't "technically" won yet, considering that the girl that was closest to it is now a ghost. Also, Yui knows about Yuuya now, and yet, that doesn't seem to have slowed her down.
Honestly the 15 years old thing doesn't matter, ate least in Muv Luv world where they can get drafted to go and die in the frontlines.
Over in our reality of course it would be a problem cause 15 year old girls on our plane of reality are one of the most vapid and vain creatures on planet earth. but over in Muv Luv land they barely have time for that shit before being put into military service.
The timeframe is a far better point, 3 months and she just shoops in and saves the nation? no wonder they called her St. Ursula afterwards cause that's a goddammed miracle.
Why not? You care about your dead waifu.
>She was also in East Germany for only 3 months. How can she be knowledgeable about the quagmire the DDR is in?
Considering that she is a girl that wants to unite the germanic people under one flag then she should have done her homework. Also 3 months already?
>She's also only 15 years old
She have been fighting the BETA for some time and she have been trained to hate them. I am unable to understand why she refused to fire at something which she have been trained to kill ever since she decided to become a pilot.
>Honestly the 15 years old thing doesn't matter
It does when other people should have way more political experience.
You must have lived in a different 2012 then, Yui wasn't exactly popular until she lost the Tortilla Chips and then we took pity on her for losing. Plus it's always cool to hate on the girl that wins.
Its a waste not because she is a cake, but because no one will touch that cake. And it seems that she doesn't want anyone to touch her either.
>She have been fighting the BETA for some time
She joined up in mid 82 and got shipped to the front in December 82. She's got a couple of months of experience at the most, and the Bundeswehr doesn't seem to train them for close combat.
Beatrix got inducted into the Stasi at 16, but both of them started their TSF piloting training later.
But she's a likable and interesting character.
Is that why Beatrix and Lise always get so much love compared to the other SMs?
Thing is she isn't running for office. She's just being used as a trophy on a pedestal while shouting "Can't we all just get along?"
Any 15 year old girl could do that, add in the fact she's already a soldier who fought in the BETA on the frontlines so that her credibility as a person can't be so easily discredited and boom.
It's easier to hate the Russians anyway.
>No one will touch that cake
She'll probably get a marriage arrainged for her by her family or some shit
or fucked silly by a slav or american pilot that scratches that TOP GUN urge she has
I don't read moon, but I thought her Uncle was still alive at least.
>no one will touch that cake
Her uncle isn't.
>Forcing a 16 year old girl into the stasi under Axmann
Abel is such a douchebag.
The Draken is sort of like a retarded puppy of a fighter aircraft to me, like it's trying so hard but it just looks adorably stupid the entire time.
>She'll probably get a marriage arrainged for her
Probably like this.
>There is a TSFiA where she is in her 30s or late 20s apparently.
There isn't. There is one where Lelouch leads an army of Typeｰ00's but Yui never appeared outside of TE.
>She is at the table along with Heim and other moderate rebels
No shit, you don't tell the pawn that she's a pawn. People don't like to be told they're dancing to someone elses tune after all.
>Still, been a soldier a fighting BETA don't give you an insight about the DDR
No, it doesn't. But military service is an easy thing to shove down people's throats when they start picking apart someone in the political world.
Basically, "How dare you question one of our heroes! you who are sitting in your home because of the sacrifices she makes!"
I think it's bullshit too, but at least I can see how it would've happened instead of just shitposting about it.
Top Gun maybe did, at least enough to send probably a 'Oh hey, sorry you died' note to her funeral while he was fucking a ghost.
I think it's stupid that the anime implies there's a happy ending, when really, if you aren't a filthy secondary, you know that they're all pretty much fucked. The LN's ending, with Katia, Theo, and Annete suiting up and walking towards an uncertain future is much more impactful.
Her father was the economic minister. He eventually told his daughter to sign on with Axmann because he wanted to use her as a mole inside the Stasi. Obviously, Beatrix resisted, but Abel won out (Chapter IX, where he apparently talks to her about it is called "Noblesse Oblige" or something)
Still a shit dad though.
To be fair, autismoe is really hard to hate. Especially when she stops getting so autismal.
They aren't all dead. And either way, there are plenty of other samurai and noble families still alive.
Iwaya is not actually her real uncle afaik.
That said, he more or less is like her real uncle, as he's known and been there for her since birth.
Im getting tired seeing this bullshit in every single thread.
Pls provide sources for you claims, where is the proofs?
To be fair, it's less annoying than constant LISE A SLUT posts.
I see what you did there and I approve
I'm getting tired of him posting it
Why was Cui never seriously considered anyways? She's top tier wife material.
What is your rank pilot?
Do they even have the correct rank insignias in muv-luv for the soviets? I dont remember such thing
>screen says everyone from TE died
That Cyrillic doesn't say anything about anyone in particular buying the farm, it just says that there were many casualties around the world during Ouka.
There's also the matter of this right after that.
Didn't even know that.
Well shit, I would deffo fund that.
Stella route when?
>Yoroi Mikoto route in EXTRA
But there is that one "bad" end where you end stuck with Mikoto on a raft in the middle of nowhere.
Will they show Beatrix's corpse being displayed by the Rebels in the BD/VN?
>Not after BiS.
>Implying that won't just encourage them to make her death all the more brutal.
Besides, she should be way more bloody in her last scene than she is.
Nah, if anything, that's just inspiration to Cookie to make it even more brutal.
Is there any background on Radhabinod? He must have seen some things in the Indian campaign.
These aren't the waifu's you're looking for.
>This is a Lt.Colonel
Why is Daryl so lewd?
>USMC irl female dress blues don't get thigh high boots
This hurts. In the name of Chesty and Smedley, I demand this be changed!
I may like the overall blockiness of the 80's DDR suits, but the boots on the modern suits are classic.
>41 year old russian MILF is a ruskie army Lt. Colonel in ML
>30 something ukranian MILF becomes prosecutor general of a Russian puppet state that is later annexed and Internet meme in RL.
Nah m8, Latrova is one of the more believable parts of ML and more if not most likeable part of TE.
>there will never be an alternate timeline where milf Beato and Iris are chit chatting with milf Latrova and milf Mira
>there will never be a prequel of them all in school together in the same grade
I was more concerned about the quality insignia, she may as well be a lieutenant because the important lines are not there.
They got the stars but lack the important lines and color.
I don't think they'd get along with one another.
Anon it hurts, stop!
TE was QUALITY! central anyway, let it be. And at least it wasn't like the ships in the Kamchatka arc.
>hey Ivan let's bomb our own base so we can havings of Japonsky railgun
>wonderful idea comrade! let's also send one of our best battalions to die
>what is this, laser class? they didn't say anything about laser
>good job cyka now we just lost many valuables bombers
They're pretty dumb in mubrub too.
The issue is that it's not clear if she's wearing a uniform that would have proper pogony ("rank boards") or just cloth epaulets on her tunic that are buttoned down, since the cut of the uniform is a little unclear. Either way, the plastic insignia wouldn't be gold (more likely they'd be the same color as the uniform itself, or dull green). Even if you assume it's a sort of dull gold, the plastic insignia would only be gold colored on an officer's dress uniform I think--otherwise, a dull color.
I assume they were patterning it off contemporary Russian uniforms, and just didn't bother doing a camo pattern.
Camo probably would have eaten the already strained korean budget. The LN and manga as well as the VN depict the Ruskie's with camo fatigues
The political drama doesn't even make sense. At least Sagiri's Rebels, Gegranne's Frenchmen, and the RLF didn't come off like mustache twirling villains, but real people dealing with a situation that's over their fucking head.
sm has the most disgusting banal atrophied 1-dimensional bond villains it's not even defensible, and as a consequence people who either meme too hard or feel the plot subjectively resonates them rely on attacking any and all other content in the domain pertaining to muv-luv
in short you are using divide and conquer tactics on the fanbase and I don't understand it
It's stupid how nearly every single characters misery and the general grimdarkness can just be explained by "lolz, stasi". They even have fucking concentration camps where they gas and burn the enfeebled or the undesirables (such as refugees).
I can't take either the evil semen demon nor the misplaced hentai villain seriously in this.
>Gretel will never confess to you
Why even live?
>Iris will never give her anal virginity to you
Why even masturbate?
>Not taking her life-virginity
A gun is neither as personal or phallic as a knife. Besides, Theo may not have penetrated her vagina/womb like he did in the LN, but he did touch her heart with his blade.
>A gun is neither as personal or phallic as a knife
It doesn't get much more phallic than this dude.