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Madoka Magica

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Let's have a Madoka thread
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>>141611276
why?
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why ?
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>>141611276
Why?
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>>141611299
Either the OP really wants a genuine normal discussion about the Madoka-franchise (very unlikely), or the OP just wants to make another thread to see how long it takes until this funny tripfaggers-vs.-ack spam thing happens (most likely).
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>>141611276
Why?
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>>141611355
I doubt it's the latter.
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>>141611334
>>141611331
>>141611299
>>141611375
because legs
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>>141611276
Watching it with a friend. Did Blue murder some dudes on a train?
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>>141611420
They deserved it.
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>>141611420
Anime director said she didn't.

Urobutcher said that you can interpret it as you see fit.

In the manga (non canon) she did.
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>>141611912
So she's a murderous bitch.
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Hi, I'm Chuu. I tried with Madoka, but the pretention is just too much.
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>>141611912
So in summary, we have no fucking clue. Not enough for a court of law, but we just don't know.
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>>141612153
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I hope these threads get purged.

Actually hey everyone who is your favorite crack pairing?
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>>141612423
まどほむ
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>>141612423
ACK and Apple-chan.
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>>141612580
He said crack, not canon pairings.
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>>141612423

You're such a bad person, shitbag.
It's funny how you always make a thread to spite and attack people because you have literally nothing better to do in your pathetic life
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>>141611414
>>>/c/2659519
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>>141611276
>why?
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>>141612423
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Isn't there going to be a new movie this year?
Like in September?
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>>141613661
Have you been living under a rock?
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>>141613975
Actually yes I have.
Or was that an April Fool's Prank?
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>>141614130
There was an announcement back in November but we have no idea when it's coming out, it's still in its initial stages of production so I give it 2 more years.
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Mami-san!
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>>141614234
The plot is about Homura ruining everything with her evil witchcraft and the girls teaming up to murder her. Madoka never loved her and will be happy that the devil dies and goes to hell where she belongs.
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>>141612423
None, because crack in Madoka is shit.
Why that when you have great pairs portrayed in the story.
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Sometimes I'm akuma.
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>>141614796
And sometimes I'm a kuma.
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>>141614781
The canon pairs are as follows

Madoka x Your-Name-kun
Homura x Nobody, she will die alone and unloved in horrible agony as her soul is imprisoned in the worst level of hell
Mami x cake
Sayaka x Violinboy
Kyoko x food

All others are crack.
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So if by some insanity the vanilla ships are broken and we end up with a HomuSaya and MadoMami ending, does this mean that ACK has been defending crack the whole time?
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>>141614959
>Mami x cake
>Kyoko x food
kekles
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>>141614969
That would only be the case if some insanity happened because nothing in the story supports a romantic relationship between Homura/Sayaka and Madoka/Mami. On the other hand, we have dozens of evidence supporting the official pairings, so even if they're not end game they can't even be considered crack.
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>>141614969
Madoka is not gay and she hates Homura. She will have a boyfriend by the end of the series.
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>>141614959
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>>141615184
>Madoka/Mami
>completely crack

Anon pls
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>>141615247
Instead of giving a baseless answer, why don't you try providing proof for Madomami?
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>>141615247
At best, Mami just really wanted Madoka as partner so that she wouldn't be fighting alone or be alone in general.
Not everything has to be shipping, tumblr.
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>>141615360
>Implying the scene in ep 3 was not blatant yuri pandering
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>>141614959
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>>141614959
you forgot sensei x junko
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>>141615422
Take off your yuri goggles.
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>>141615482
>>141615538
>>141615088
>take my bait gaiz
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Why is Homu such a fucking piece of shit?
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>>141611414
Homura's legs are a miracle of the universe
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>>141615575
>Literally takes Madoka on a date in Shipping Pentagram
>Take off the goggles
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>>141615711
Battle Pentagram isn't canon.
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>>141615711
>portible games
Discarded.
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>>141611276
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>>141611276
Homura did nothing wrong.
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>>141615973
dumb frog poster
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>>141615973
>ywn kill ACK
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>>141615812
>Implying Madoka and Homura aren't soul mates
>Implying Sayaka and Madoka aren't best friends across time
>Implying Kyoko isn't isn't Homura's trump card
>Implying Sayaka and Kyoko don't share mutual feelings

The game isn't but the relationships are pretty accurate.
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>>141616584
Still not canon.
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>>141616584
The relationships are fine.
So long as you don't take the gags route serious.
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The only thing I liked about Battle Pentagram was this, if it weren't for Madohomu and Kyosaya I'd ship Kyouhomu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohf0n6ymcso
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>>141616903
Madoka never loved Homura and Kyoko thinks Homura is a cruel, evil monster.
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>>141612423
The best one.
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Is Homura autistic?
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>>141617074
>Madoka never loved Homura
Love, maybe not. But she certainly does see her as a friend. Best friend, if the dialogue at episode 12 is anything to go by
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>>141614959
>canon pairs
I don't think you know what that word means.
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>>141615690
Only one of those was me and simply poped in. Sadly it triggered your autism though.
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Shipping and yuri aside, I do hope Madoka and Homura finally end up together for once. It doesn't have to be yuri, but I'd like for them to work out their issues and spend eternity together. They're both lonely without each other.
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>>141614690
>implying
The movie is going to be about the gang reminding Homura of everything good she's done for them, and ascending her to Heaven to live with her waifu.
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>>141619506
Don't worry, it will. This may be a dark series, but it always wraps things up with most things having ended well
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Daily reminder that Mami best girl
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>>141619414
I feel like Madoka loving Homura isn't as much an issue as Madoka choosing Homura over duty. I think Rebellion did enough to make me believe she could love Homura if the plot nudged her a bit more in that direction, but I don't believe Madoka would put Homura over her dury as the Law of Cycles. That as the whole point of Homura accepting that it's possible they'll be enemies.
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>>141616308
>Everyone hates you and wants you dead
I know a few people that can disprove that assertion.
Also rude.
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>>141612681
Thanks for proving my point about how bad these threads are. Also was first time posting in here and didn't make the thread either. Shows how rabid and garbage these threads are, but hey think I'm that other guy if you want if that helps keep your sanity.
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>>141619668
>no one using it
>36 posters
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>>141619620
*second best girl
Behind Madoka
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>>141619269
You're a fucking cunt, anon.
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>>141619773
To be completely honest dude, I wouldn't know how to change my IP, even if I wanted to.
>>141619809
How does it "degrade" the characters? They're works of fiction. They, like all fiction, should be up for the viewer to interpret
>>141619830
Rude.
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Homura's a big girl
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>>141619713
I don't know, this thread was on page 10 before you bumped it.
Shame you just can't let it go.
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>>141619867
Homusaya is shit and you should feel ashamed of yourself.
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>>141619867
>Rude.

No, not rude, just accurate.
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>>141619927
>HomuSaya is shit
It is the most refined ship, and you know it deep within your heart.
Joking aside, It's my opinion, which is just as good as yours, so they kind of negate each other
>>141619952
Rude.
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>>141619996
>rude
Looks like we got a special little snowflake in here.
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>>141619809
Who cares, they're not real
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>>141619996
No it is shit because that's the objective truth. It doesn't even look aesthetically pleasing. You have shit taste and you're also a cunt that likes to spam your shit pair in every thread.
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Remember when crack wasn't spammed so much?
Remember when we had meaningful discussions with occasional circlejerk?
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best girl
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>>141612580
>>141612664
Kapplin is more canon if anything.
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>>141620479
Kapplin?
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>>141620594
Same exact images spammed over and over.
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>>141620594
Kevin-kunxApple-chan.
Reminder that KyoukoxApple is the only canon.
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>>141620620
>In the case of Madoka, that is exactly the case. There are only canon pairs.
The images I post prove otherwise
>There is not a single thing is story that supports the crack shit you are posting.
There's a reason It's called crack
>The pairs existing out side of the canon story means nothing, as the content itself is low quality BECAUSE of how it portrays the characters.
How does it portray them to make it low quality? Just different than what they canonically do, or how they canonically behave? Just because It's different from the source story, it isn't "low quality".
>Just because you can't effect the characters doesn't mean you can't produce content that degrades the characters with in the context of the new crack setting.
The crack setting doesn't degrade them though, as I've said.
>And the fact that you force these portrayed portrayed characters in these threads is what damages them.
Maybe they're "damaged" because you've made such a big deal out of it, and taken the fun out of all the recent Madoka threads.
>>141620725
I literally don't know what that is, but thanks for >>141620666 for clearing it up.
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>>141619380
yes, this is canon
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As someone who watched this all so long ago, can someone explain exactly what the deal with Homura is (Rebellion-wise)
She took Madoka's spot by force I get and I understand the only person to rival the equivalent of God is like the equivalent of the devil, or so they said
But why is she set up as a villain afterwards if all she did was take away Madoka's suffering and basically accomplished giving her best friend what she wanted all along
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>>141621554
Because Madoka doesn't want to be safe and happy
Homura "helping" Madoka requires directly opposing her
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>>141621554
The ending is meant to be that way. The problem is the Law of Cycles cant function without Madoka. Madpka cant be happy knowing she has a duty to do. Homura is also dead inside at this point because she fears Madoka will come to hate her.
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>>141621785
>>141621737
Shouldn't this not be Madoka's choice? Homura repeated years upon years (most likely?) trying to save Madoka and then at the very end everything she has worked for is ripped away, and when she finally has the chance to make things the way they should be it immediately paints her as evil which I just don't get. Also did her removing Madoka bring back a world with witches?
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>tfw I've finally got all my meguca Cu-poches set up on their own special shelf
>tfw Nagi nendos are either sold out or scalped
>tfw bad lighting so any pic I take looks like shit

Just fuck my shit up familia.

>>141620479
>>141620666

WEW 2 (You)
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Disregard that.
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>>141622067
Madoka isnt her property and Homura realized Madoka didn't want this at the end of Rebellion. SHE thinks she's evil. She isn't a devil and Madoka will forgive her.

>witches

Madoka's wish was to erase witches with her own hands. Guess what Homura pulled off? She rid the LoC of the thing that gave it power.
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>>141622067
>Shouldn't this not be Madoka's choice?
That's certainly Homura's point of view. Some would say that Madoka should be allowed have agency over her own metaphysical state of being.

>did her removing Madoka bring back a world with witches?
No, Homura mentions wraiths towards the end. Which means there are still magical girls, but Madoka probably (?) isn't one of them.
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>>141619380
Serious answer to a shitpost:

Probably not something of sufficient clinical interest to be on the autistic spectrum, but her social skills are definitely lacking. On the other hand, she readily displays symptoms of major depression and PTSD.
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>>141622213
Disregard this.
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>>141622238
Concept movie has witches back and familiars were still present in Homuverse
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>>141622139
>>141622213
>>141622338
It'd be easier if you just didn't post at all ever.
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>>141622360
>Concept movie has witches back
Since when?

>familiars were still present
Only Clara dolls and the same familiars that hitched along with Nagisa and Sayaka.
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>>141622213
>>141622338
Delete yourselves.
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>>141622430
>>141622430
Disregard these.
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>>141622338
Okay.
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>>141622419
Latest leaked pics had Kyoko fighting a witch and Sayaka temporarily becomes Octavia in the movie. Did you not see the rose witches familiars at the end of the film?
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>>141622419
Did you real think there would be zero consequence to splitting the LoC?
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>>141622552
At least Madoka can freely live her life.
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>>141622505
>Kyoko fighting a witch
We'll see.
Sayaka was Oktavia in Rebellion too, that's just part of the weirdness of her and Nagisa's existence.

>rose witches familiars
Yes, they came along with Sayaka.

>>141622552
I didn't say that. It's not unlikely that that witches are gonna show up again because they're like the most interesting part of the series and there's undoubtedly shenanigans going on with the LoC, but as of the end of Rebellion at least we're in wraith mode.
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I want to verb my noun in adjective.

>>141622489
Thank you.
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>>141622619
Her soul gem blackens, she becomes a witch, wrecks the triangle wraith, and then she is sealed by arrows. Kyouko is visibly fighting a witch. They had the dualistic power because they were under the LoC. Now they arent.

>>141622602
I agree tripfag. The best ending we can hope for is Madoka lives her life with Homu and they run the LoC together. I'm just saying drastic actions have drastic consequences.
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>>141623202
>They had the dualistic power because they were under the LoC. Now they arent.
Except we saw Sayaka summon Oktavia after the universe was rewritten.
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>>141623202
But if they do run LoC together, that would mean they have turned into concepts. Madoka would still be leaving her friends and family behind.
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>>141620137
Close.
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>>141623545
>From very beginning, to opt for the individual instead of the world, to affirm his own desire and ambition is to me an absoulte bad-end. If the world should be destroyed then there was no salvation whatsoever left. I think in the past I just picked the escape route by landing the story in way that is a bad-end in a macro perspective but a happy-end from the individual's point of view. However, “Fate/Zero” is a story that had the individuals fallen into misfortune but got the world saved. Perhaps this became the turning point like you said and finally I could write my happy-end. After that, be it “Eisen Fluegel” or “Madoka”, I approached to write works in which the protagonist may face ruin and destruction but to the world it holds a good ending.

Madoka and Homura living happy normal lives is exactly the type of ending Gen would never write.

>>141623260
She BECAME Octavia.
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>>141622672
>I want to verb my noun in adjective.

???
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>>141624004
>Homura >Kyouko >Madoka >Sayaka >Mami

Not even.
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>>141624696
He ironically meant the worst when he said best
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>>141619620
Dem fighting words, anon.
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Thank you based madoka
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Hey how come no one ever mentions Hitomi in these 'Best Girl' rankings?
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>>141624802
She might be best girl, but she is prone to loose head
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>>141624892
She's not relevant to the plot, and as such, gets marginal development. Some people hate her for "stealing Kyosuke from Sayaka," most don't have much of an impression of her.
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>>141624892
she honestly did nothing wrong.

that's coming from a Sayaka fag.
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>>141624928
We've all heard that joke a million times anon. Give it a rest.
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Grabbed both artbooks/production notes from the Madogatari event in Nagoya. Love the art in the rebellion one specifically.
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>>141624892
Try to name one good anime girl with green hair
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>>141625263
C.C.

Too fucking easy.
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>>141625255
>pissed off LoC
>Madostealing homu
LoC will have her revenge in movie 4
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HOMU BOOTY
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>>141625294
>C2
>good
Even Karen was better
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>>141625263
>>141625294
I FUCKING LOVE C.C.
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>>141624892
She's a demon. Don't trust her.
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>>141625255
Jesus. I don't want this Madoka watching me.
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>>141625412
Top 3 girls in Code Geass:

1) Pizza Onna
2) Lulu
3) Kallen
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Problem fucking solved.
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>>141625545
Nah b.

1) C.C.
2) Viletta
3) Princess Cornelia

Kallen is a whore and so is Shirley.
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>>141625545
>>141625697
>no syaruru nor roro
flawed lists
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>>141625466
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>>141625813
She's being cucked by herself.
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>>141624892

she's homophobic
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>>141625957
And yet completely goes lesbian for Homura in the PSP game.
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>>141626016
Gag route.
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Homu has seen some shit
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>>141626149
That being said, do people actually take the "That's forbidden loooooooove!"/"Girls can't love girls!" line seriously?
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>>141625762
>homu
>cowtits
What a waste
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>>141626269
What else could she have meant if she isn't a RAGING HOMOPHOBE?

COME ON
IT'S 2011
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>>141626310
She's not a homophobe, she's just a homuphobe.
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>>141625697

1) C.C. (though she's the only one who would qualify as a whore since the gal is immortal)
2) Kallen
3) Shirley

Vileta is bad and you should feel bad. Terrible anon.
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>>141625813
>>141625255
>clara style madoka
muh
MUH
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>>141626269
>Sayaka likes a boy
>Madoka wants love letters, but not necessarily from boys
>Sayaka makes jokes about being Madoka's husband
>One night with them alone and Hitomi thinks they're gay

Reminder Madoka is a raging faggot and her friends know it.
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>>141626699
The fact that Madoka is a homo was never in question.
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>>141626699
Yeah, she's a lesbian. And? Your point?
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>>141626480
I'm finding this cute when I shouldn't. This bothers me.
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>>141624892
This artist is dangerous
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>>141626645
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>>141627129
Dangerous to my nose
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Why didn't Homura lock up Madoka and turn her into her sex slave to stop her from becoming a witch?
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>>141628245
because of this little shit
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watching rebellion again, why is homu literally the best?
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>>141628245
Wouldn't that just make her turn into a witch faster?
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>>141629080
She is literally perfect.
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>>141629100
No, because she wouldn't be a magical girl. In a doujin I read, Homura doing this would just make it easier for Kyubey to contract her because she's mind broken.
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>>141629548
she is something special indeed
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>>141629912
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>>141629080
>>141629548
>>141629912
>>141630110

>all these rebels
I want heretics to leave
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>>141630110
>>141630250

homuhomu
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>>141630362
Satanists get out
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>>141630452
how can you call this face Satan?
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>>141630682
People that hate Homura:
>Sayaka
>Sayakafags
>Homura
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>>141630250
>Implying Homura is not the hero of the series.

This should be Madoka kissing Homira's feet because without Homura, she would literally be laying dead in a ditch.
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>>141630682
That was before you witch, the good old days

I miss this homu
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All this Homura love.
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>>141620137

Sayaka is best girl and objectively did nothing wrong.
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>>141630829
people that love homu: Literally everyone else
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>>141630943
All Homu's are Homura. Madoka says so herself.
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>>141630992
She basically caused Kyoko's death and made Homura's life harder.
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>>141630933
Stop deluding yourself anon, break free of that delusion and come back to the light
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>>141631013
Best girl is always best.
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>>141631039

Homura is a betrayer, I lost all sympy for her after Rebellion.

Kyoko did it willingly. In the grand scheme of things, all of this was Cooby's fault.
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>>141631059
But Madoka likes it better in the dark.
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>>141631072
Sayaka had the most help out of all the magical girls and dispite that fell into despair the quickest.
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>>141631072
Boo fucking hoo faggot.
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>>141631067
you have one homuhomu flavor to spend eternity with, which homu is best homu?

Pro tip: all of them
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>>141631169
Homura-chan is Homura-chan. All of them
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>>141629765
that doesnt make sense, mind broken girls dont possess enough will left to make a contract
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>>141631122
No she likes the light, and she wants you to enjoy it too, homu too!

Come back anon
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Would you date Oldoka?
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>>141628743
how would kyubey get into a locked room
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>>141631605
It's not really heaven if Homu's not there. If Homu goes, I will go too.
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>>141631039
Thanks for your opinion.
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>>141631702

She is the devil anon, she can't got to the light anymore. It's too late for her
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>>141631637
She's already eons old anon
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>>141631663
He's a collective existence with access to scientific techologies that are almost magic in their capabilities, ranging from granting wishes to capturing god, and you're fucking worried about how he gets through a locked door?
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>>141631039
Your opinion is stupid. If Kyoko didn't exist, Sayaka would have been fine.
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>>141631307
Homura walks into the arcade and catches a glimpse of Kyoko. Great just who I was looking for she thinks. As she closes in she notices Kyoko is on the dance dance machine. Almost immediately the flashbacks start. You will never be a dancer Homura! You're not graceful enough! You just don't have the talent Homura. She is ripped from her thoughts as Kyoko askes her to join in. She polity refuses although her very soul wants it more than life itself. She watches how graceful and elegant Kyoko moves on the machine. The sight both fills her with joy and destroys her at the same time. This hurts. All she can do its shed a tear a continue about her business and hope than maybe one day in some way she can shine just as bright. End.
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>>141631752
>Homu can't come back to the light
Sayaka, pls leave.
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>>141611276
Is there going to be a forth movie or did they really ruin Homura forever?
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Are Madoka threads usually this crowded by trip fags?
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>>141631819
I thought this was a new story from fap-chan and then I realized it was just nameshit. Still not bad though.
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>>141631787
That's stupid as well, seing as she still would've find out the truth behind soul gems and get Kamijou taken from her anyway.
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>>141631702
>>141631752
IT'S NEVER TOO LATE, EVEN FOR THE DEVIL

REPENT REPENT
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>>141631859
LURK MOAR YOU STUPID FUCK

also,

>implying ruined
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>>141631870
They're the same person.
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>>141631872
Kyoko started it all by challenging her sense of justice..
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>>141631924

Sayaka and Kyoko is the best friendship in all timelines.
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>>141631915
I'm new to these threads. I never bothered with Madoka until I learned it wasn't your typical moe.

Please, I need to know. I found rebellion pretty believable, as in its plausible for Homura to do that, but they retconned's Madoka sacrifice and made Homura into an yandere bitch.

I cried in the end of the series and pretty much was flabbergasted at the end of rebellion.
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>>141632037

That's exactly what they wanted you to feel anon. You are not a lone.

I myself was pissed at it, rooting for Homura all the movie until she pulled this shit. But I agree that is believable and it will be interesting to see where it goes.

Why did she took Coobie with her though? I think he was pretty much done but she grabbed it.
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>>141632037
Must have been the song. It sets the mood really well for the end of the series, I'll admit it almost got me as well.
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I love all of you, no matter what, there's no need to repent, I'll take the burden of your sins off your back
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>>141632121
I meant rebellion although the series was better in my opinion.
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>>141632161

THANKS BASED MADOKAMI
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>>141632037
Homura invalidated Madoka's sacrifice in the same way Madoka invalidated hers. Magical girls fight for their wishes, not hope or justice or greater virtues. Way to miss a key point.

>>141632106
That's not what they wanted you to feel.
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>>141632106
Me too, I even got sad at that part she was about to kill herself but then that shit happened. It is always nice to know I'm not alone.
>>141632121
>>141632191

It sets the mood beautifully. Both of them.
>>141632323
I understood what happened, it just didn't feel... right.
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>>141631787
Read the post you replied to again. You misunderstood what I was saying. Think a little before you post.
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>>141632459
>Someone says Sayaka was best and that she did nothing wrong.
It's true though. It was Kyoko and homura that were the problem.
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>>141632494
Listin guy, I know you are a Sayaka fan which probably explains why you aren't that smart but you really don't believe that do you?
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>>141632548
>He insults people even though he's wrong.

Here's the thing though. Isn't it true though? If Kyoko didn't exist or try and muscle herself into the City, Sayaka would have slowly been able to grow at a rate in which she could handle the stages. Instead she rammed herself into the scene and did major damage to Sayaka's body and her pride.

As for Homura, Homura made the mistake of getting too friendly with Madoka and it made Sayaka jealous. The way Homura acted would make anyone upset not to mention the threats she caused and how reckless she was when they fought together.
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>>141632670

From a Sayaka fag to another.

It's time to stop friend, no more.
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>>141632670
>implying Sayaka can't heal from damage
>Implying Sayaka didn't need the experience

Sayaka cause herself more trouble than any of the girls did. She refused free grief seeds from Homura and free food from Kyoko and Made Madoka feel bad about herself for not throwing her life away with her. She's garbage and you know it.
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>>141632670
Not only that but that was Mami's city who already knew and worked with Kyoko before the beginning of the series. Kyoko had every right to be there.
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>>141632747
>implying Kyoko knew she could heal from the damage.
She even said she expected Sayaka to be in the hospital for at least a week.

>Implying Sayaka didn't need the experience.
Uh, not the experience she got. It's not Kyoko was some kind of teacher.

>She refused a single grief seed because she wanted to get her own.
Yeah, what's wrong with that?

>She refused stolen food from Kyoko.
HURRRRRRR DURRRRRRRRRRR

>Made Madoka feel bad.
That's because Madoka was literally useless.

>>141632857
Uh, what? Are you talking about the non-canon mangas because that's not true in the anime timeline.
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Everyone agrees that Homura is the true hero of the series, right?
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>>141632933
>at least a week
Don't you mean months

>Kyoko is not a teacher
Experiance is experience.

>what's wrong with that
It caused her to fall into despair faster which in turn made everyones life that much harder when she could have easily just taken the free no work required grief seeds.

>hurrrr durrrr
Not suprised (Sayaka fan)

>Madoka was useless
I think you're forgetting she's the center point of the entire show and was easily the most powerful magical with her karmic destiny.
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>>141632857
Your TDS canon isn't accurate to the story's canon.
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>>141633073
>Don't you mean months
Semantics. She wanted to put her out for a while to teach her a lesson.

>Experiance is experience.
Uh, no? The wrong kind of guidance will only steer you wrong.

>It caused her to fall into despair faster which in turn made everyones life that much harder when she could have easily just taken the free no work required grief seeds.
All I'm reading here is that you don't understand Sayaka's character at all and you really have no reason to comment in any of these threads.

>Not suprised (Sayaka fan)
>He ignored my statement like a retard.

>I think you're forgetting she's the center point of the entire show and was easily the most powerful magical with her karmic destiny.
Please, please tell me all the episodes that Madoka got developing her character and then all the episodes all the other characters got. The reason I know you don't understand Madoka Magica is because you don't realize that Madoka so little real character development that it's almost criminal. The first three episodes had a Mami focus. The next 6 were all basically Sayaka, Kyoko, and Homura. Episode 10 basically showed us all of Homura and 11 and 12 was more Homura than Madoka.

Madoka was not the main character of Madoka Magica. It wasn't her story. The OP itself is sung in Homura's PoV.
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>>141633200
She knew who Mami was in the anime when Kyubey told her about her death so I'd take that over your word. Even if they somehow magically didn't know each other that was Kyoko's city fair and square as she overpowered Sayaka in their fight.
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>>141633039
Only autists and Sayakafags deny this.
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>>141633302
She knew that Mami's city already had a magical girl not who Mami was.
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>>141633290
>She wanted to teach her a lesson
Good.

>I don't understand Sayaka
I understand she caused above amount of trouble for everyone despite having the most help and best circumstances out of any of the girls and yet still fell into despair the quickest

>he ignored my statement
You literally said "HURRR DURRRR" and I didn't even ignore it I said "I'm not surprised (Sayaka fans) try again.

Madoka>Sayaka
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>>141633377
How exactly did she know Mami's name?
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>>141633432
You are going of a complete guess that Kyoko didn't know Mami where as tds and the anime suggests they already did. I wonder why Sayaka fans are looked down spon.
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>>141633446
I enjoy how you refuse to talk about my entire post. How all the time I proved you wrong. Not only that, but you can't be bothered to read the greentext which would explain why I responded with Hurr Durr. It's literally because you're a retard who doesn't understand the characters in Madoka Magica. It wasn't "free food", it was stolen food. You're a stupid person and you need to get out of these threads.

>How exactly did she know Mami's name?
I know a lot of people's names despite never having met them. It's amazing, right?
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>>141633496
Magical girls due to the territory system had at least some awareness of one another's existence.
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>>141633544
>looked down apon

>>141633432
Yea they do have a territory system and that territory was obviously Kyoko's. Thinking that Sayaka would get a city like that to start out with is not thinking at all.
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>>141633544
You literally didn't address anything in that argument and just went full on denial.
Really you're only argument was "hurr Sayaka fags are dumb".
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>>141633607
>stolen food
Who cares?

Unless you can prove you're theory about then not knowing each other it literally means nothing to me.

>stupid person
Nice insult.
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>>141633770
Not making any sense and you not being able to understand are totally different.
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>>141633763
>Who cares?
Get out. Just get out. It's like you don't understand any of the characters in the show.

Seriously. You're unwanted here. You're just another leech on Madoka threads. You're only here for the attention. Get out and never come back.
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This was kinda sweet in a weird way.

I'm not even a lesbian-shipping faggot
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>>141633792
And you once again fail to address the actual point of this argument.
You're full of shit.
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>>141633815
You don't have to be in order to view this as something nice.
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>>141633798
No really who cares. Stolen food isn't a big deal.
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>>141633821
What exactly is the point anon is love to know? What makes Sayaka so glorious?
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>>141633883
It's my phone changing words up on me. Let's try and stick to the point.
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>>141633904
You're English is shit and the point is that TDS isn't relevant to the story's canon.
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>>141633883
So prove to me they didn't know each other than? I'd love to see your hard evidence.
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>>141633973
*your
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>>141633874
Except it did to Sayaka. It mattered greatly. This is why you shouldn't be here. You don't understand the characters.

GET OUT.
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>>141633973
>not knowing to to read
I've already addressed that. Nice try.
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>>141633999
I realize it mattered to Sayaka and that's why she's the worst out of all the girls. She's caused everyone trouble because she refused to budge on her morels.
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>>141633987
How about the fact that when Kyouko tells Sayaka about her pass; Mami isn't anywhere near mentioned.
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>>141634049
She had a black and white view of morality.
Eating stolen food wasn't the right thing to do.
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>>141634054
Thats not proof at all. That's a theory at best. Why would she feel the need to tell Sayaka about someone she wouldn't know anything about that's not revelent to the story she was already telling her.
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>>141634084
Yea, flipping out on her best friend for not throwing her life away is more her style right?
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>>141634115
Reading and getting screwed over by spellcheck is different. I'm not in a situation where I have the time to proof read everything I post and fix everything auto corrected.
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>>141634103
Mami was a mentor to both Sayaka and Madoka.
She would've told Sayaka about her experiences with Mami as her mentor had she actually did have her as one.
They did vaguely know of each other's existence but it wasn't as close as you are convinced due to non-canon side material.
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>>141634168
I already did? You just didn't read it.
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Honestly, have nothing more to argue about you have to recycle the same argument about TDS/CD3 over and over when it's already been solidly proven it has no relevance to the actual canon.
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>>141634195
What are you talking about?
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>>141634270
Okay, since that's your last lifeline in your argument and you refuse to let it go lets just say they didn't know each other. Do you honestly think Sayaka deserved the city over Kyoko?
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Are you going to defend her refusal of help from Homura and Kyoko? It led to her death and even Kyoko. Homura should have finished her.
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Holy shit it's been 5 fucking years when will these threads cease to exist
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>>141634308
They did have awareness of one another's existence, dumbass.
It doesn't matter who deserved Mitakihara.
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>>141634403
>dumbass
Do you really think that helps your argument? My whole point is that Kyoko deserved the city and Sayaka had the easiest circumstances and yet fell into despair the quickest. Stop focusing the argument on one singular point to avoid it.
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>>141634378
She was arrogant, so?
Not like she never realizes how foolish she was later on.
Kyouko decided to sacrifice herself for Sayaka and it was all actually Kyuubey's fault for not informing her, her planned wouldn't have worked.
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>>141634482
Yea, blaim the cat with no emotions.
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>>141634391
never, evangelion threads are still going strong and this show is newer.

i have a question, what ability did Kyoko get pertaining to her wish?
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>>141612423
Madoka X Homura.
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>>141634412
I clearly said TDS and she knew Mami's name in the anime. You're acting like you have some fort of hard evidence they didn't know each other. At least I have something.
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>>141634517
It needed Kyouko out of the way, that way Homura would have no aid in battling Walpurgisnaucht and Madoka would have to form a contract.
That's pretty diabolical, it having no emotions doesn't excuse it's actions.
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>>141634595
Yea but if Sayaka just accepted help from the girls which they weren't lucky enough to have she would have been fine. She unlike everyone else had it easy but caused all the damage to herself.
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>>141634594
Literally your only argument to TDS being canon is that Kyouko knew Mami's name.
That's such a fucking stretch.
Both never mention anything at all that connects their past to the canon events.
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>>141634657
Well at least it's something. What do you have?
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>>141634649
She did, and she realized she was stupid for her actions.
There's your great personification character by flaws.
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>>141634714
So she did take the grief seed from Homura and accepted Kyoko's food and didn't fall Into despair?
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>>141634693
Again, there's no single reference in the anime and films.
Both characters never mention having a past with one another.
The anime explains why magical girls know of each other's territory and the ones who watch over it.
Explaining Kyouko knowing Mami's name.
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>>141634788
What? No.
She didn't take the stolen food because it was the wrong thing to do and she denied Homura's help because she was arrogant and didn't want help from anybody.
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to be honest Sayaka probably didn't need to fight witches at all. Homura likely would have done it all for her to keep her safe thus keeping Madoka happy. She had is easy.
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>>141634865
>Had it
Don't kill me now

>>141634854
Exactly my point.
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Don't even get me started on her wish.
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>>141634865
Magical girls do need to fight witches in order to collect their seeds to purify their soul gems.
If you're talking about her making a contract, we'll she foolishly did that for someone else despite being warned by Mami not to.
Kyouko made the same mistake too though and that's one of the reasons why they were the same.
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Homura is a good girl who deserves love and eternal salvation.
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>>141634953
What? to use it for another person's well being yet also selfishly wanting that someone's affections in return?
She realized how foolish she was.
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>>141634970
They could exchange grief seeds. Theoretically if they had a unlimited seed they wouldn't need to fight witches at all.
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>>141635056
Yea she was pretty foolish ha?
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>>141635059
But who would protect the world from curses then?
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>>141635018
I gave my reasons why I think they already knew each other. If you really care that much about changing my mind why don't you give me your evidence on how they didn't know each other instead of calling me names?
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>>141635116
If something like that happened where they all got infinite grief seeds I'm guessing they'd have to just fight them for no benefit at that point to protect the world although that's not the point I was trying to make.
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>>141635080
Yeah, but her flaws just made her out to be the most personified character in the story.
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I'm guessing they'd be extremely powerful as well considering that's where they draw their power from.
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>>141611276
Posting in threads while it aired was a very memorable time.

All the speculation threads.
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>>141635218
That's not what I enjoy in anime and that's why I didn't like Sayaka.
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>>141635261
I almost have nostalgia for those times. I was really into /a/ at the time. Not working, consumed with the rest of life.
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>>141635271
I suppose you'd rather prefer cardboard cutouts instead of fleshed out human characters.
Your taste is poor if that's so.
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>>141635300
And the morning lescue.
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>>141635334
I think Kyoko had the best backstory to be honest. You seem like the kinda guy who would like Shinji from Eva he's pretty realistic I'd say.
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>>141635373
I don't like Eva.
Kyouko's backstory is great too but shr also suffered ftom making the same mistake ad Sayaka only is she didn't fall to despair from it and instead changed her ego because of her actions.
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>>141635334
Right?
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>>141635505
Kyouko isn't a cardboard cutout.
Her ark's actually been concluded solidly too.
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>>141635488
It's not the same because Kyoko used her wish on her dad. Sayaka used her wish on some boy.
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>>141634378
>trying to murder saya
The only scene in the series that I felt Homu is fucking wrong.
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>>141635589
Homu isn't wrong Colonel Sanders. You're wrong.
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Why is character development such a big deal?

I don't see why characters have to constantly change in order to be good.
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>>141635563
Point is they both used their wishes for someone else.
Both wishes backfired from their potentials and both charcaters suffered from them.
Kyouko also loved storis where love and courage triumph over all. Was a lot like Sayaka during her early magical gril years as well.
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>>141635589
She was wrong for trying to murder Sayaka even though she was desperate.
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>>141635653
Except Kyokos circumstances were far harsher than Sayaka ever had to deal with and she was okay and relied on her strength to move on. Sayaka just kind of made everyones life hell and caused her own death.
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>>141635018
>tl;dr I'm literally autistic
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>>141635723
I've already mentioned above how Kyouko didn't succumb to despair.
She really only got in Homura's way actually.
Both Madoka and Kyouko were the ones who were chasing after Sayaka.
No doubt Sayaka did cause problems for everyone around her but she was an ideot.
Sorta her character.
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at least the worst Sayaka worshipper is gone. I can have an actual discussion without reading unpublished novels.
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>>141635814
That's because they wanted to save her.
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>>141635873
No shit, they were both worried about her well being and how reckless she was behaving due to her soul gem tainted.
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Nice cancer general.
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>>141635919
Yea, it really makes you think about all the trouble Sayaka caused everyone.
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>>141635959
The thread could have been worse, like yesterday. The quality improved a bit when ACK fucked off.
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Which is why Sayaka is indeed the worst girl. At least when you compare her to the others.
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>>141635986
That doesn't necessarily make her the worst character.
I'm really glad by the end she realized how foolish she was and accepted her fate other than undoing her wish.
Later returned for Kyouko.
Thought that was sweet since from there she and Kyouko got to become close friends with a deep affections for one another.

Stop with the meta.
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>>141636060
Rape?
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>>141636089
ACK does exist and he's that Kevin guy. You can obviously tell just by the way he posts.
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>>141636104
Ignore it, just a trigger mechanism from a retard unable to cope that there are multiple persons in this thread.
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>>141636058
Nope, Mami never had any second thoughts in recruiting two innocent bystanders and had no cincerns over risking their lives just so that she wouldn't be alone and wre chosen by Kyuubey.
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>>141636137
Kevin isn't ACk, warosushitter is ACK.
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>>141636096
Her and Kyoko becoming best friends is likely the worst part of it all in my opinion.
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>>141635634
How can you justify killing a fellow "nonresisting" meguca? She's not a witch, so has a human mind yet. It's obvious that she would turn into a witch shortly but then again, she's still a meguca. At least Kyouko beat the shit out of Sayaka because Sayaka kept being hostile to her and Sayaka was ready to fight against herself.

Sayaka has been so obnoxious. But it was way more obnoxious and unpleasant when Homura tried to justify her deed with Madoka's name.

>I will just kill you for Madoka's sake
Madoka sure will be pleased if she heard this.
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>>141636167
Well your opinion is shit and it's a shame you seem to hate something that really matters to your favorite character.
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>>141636196
I think you're highly underestimating Homuras desperation to keep Madoka safe. I really thought she was going to do it.
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>>141636209
Sorry you feel that way. I'm pretty sure Kyoko is a better character than Sayaka anyways. Maybe one day you'll see the light.
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>>141636196
Keep in mind that Homura has seen all of them die more times than she cares to count. She is very desperate to find her way out of the timeloops and save Madoka.

Sayaka was directly interfering with that for what was probably the hundredth time.
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>>141636251
It's funny how Kevin left only for you to show up and posts novels just like you. This is why nobody can stand either one of you.
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>>141636096
>Thought that was sweet since from there she and Kyouko got to become close friends with a deep affections for one another.
This, miss talking about the story's character relationships.
Too much off-topic meta going on these days.
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>>141636421
The image has nothing to do with me but I already know who you are and so does everyone else. I'm not arguing with you unless you go back to your Kevin form as its not even satisfying trashing you as anonymous. Bye.
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>>141636322
I'm always going to love the blue-headed baka, her flaws made her all the more human.
Better than a marry sue.
Night.
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>>141636484
I realize you want to delude yourself into thinking Sayaka is a good magical girl but don't make untrue statements about best girl.
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>>141636526
You forgot your trip.
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>>141636521
>untrue statements
What?
If you're referring to "mary sue" that wasn't addressed to Kyouko.
>deluding
Thanks for your opinion.
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>>141636696
You sure made it seem that way.

>thanks for your opinion
Made me laugh. I'm glad someone else uses this.
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Season 2 when?
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>>141636249
>>141636341
Of course I can sympathize with Homura's mental state. I know and understand how and why she ended up trying to kill Madoka's old friend. My eyes were also tearing when Homura broke down in tears in front of Madoka and confessed all things, that she came from the future to protect her.

But as I started it with "wrong or right", it hardly matters. Being desperate won't make their wrong deeds right when we only see cold hard facts.

Mami shot Kyouko and killed her. That did happen in one timeline . Of course Mami wasn't a psychopath. She was desperate. She had her own reason to shoot and murder "defenseless" Kyouko. Now we can investigate, and try to understand how desperate Mami was, why she ended up killing Kyouko. But that doesn't make wrong things right. Mami was wrong there.
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>>141636820
There is so many rumors it's hard to even speculate. I would worry about the movie though as that's what would be next. I heard that Inu Curry might be done after this so I don't know about another season. Their animation is unique to say the least.
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>>141636902
How about this Kevin. If you want to talk to me at least talk about the series.
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domination from mami san
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>>141636865
You just wanted to talk about Kyoko dying didn't you? That was a cheap shot.
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>hurr durr it's sayaka's fault kyouko died!
>no! It's kyouko's fault sayaka died!
Jesus christ all of you are retards.
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>>141636987
I just want to have sex with Mami and Madoka.

If everyone agreed with me, Madoka threads would be better.
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>>141636987
>hurrrr durrrrr
Actually Kevin we are talking about the series and movie and it's actually reverent despite how retarded you might think it is. Go cry somewhere else.
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>>141637028
>Mami
Kill yourself.
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>>141637059
Wew lad. Mami's a cutie.
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>>141636966
5 years and her eyes in that scene still haunting me
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>>141635589
She was wrong but that's because she's not human so you can't really blame her either.

Those are the first signs that she's gone completely mad which led to Rebellion
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>>141637101
It was sad indeed. I didn't even think it was real at first. It took me a minute to process what happened.
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I love Homura! I'm gonna MARRY her!!
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>>141637144
Well not like a full minute but a good couple of seconds. I wasn't even mad at Mami. I felt really bad for her.
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>>141637164
Not if I marry her first dude!
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>>141636987
It's me coobie's fault and sorry you feel uncomfortable to it.
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>>141637229
>giving a good lecture about being a zombie to Sayaka
>giving a false hope to Kyouko that she can save Sayaka if she tries

Haha, why is coobie so based?
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>>141637164
>>141637197
Didn't you guys ever once think about Mamis feelings? WHO IS GOING TO MARRY MAMI?!
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>>141637046
Your bias doesn't let you see that the reason kyoko died was because she 1.)took madoka along which caused her to feel distracted, and most importantly because 2.)she let her guard down around oktavia (she wasn't trying to kill her)so that allowed oktavia to deeply wound her
And that's not even mentioning the fact that kyouko could have asked homura for help when she arrived. instead of that she herself chose her own death. The circumtances were created by kyuubey, sayaka was as much of a victim as kyouko was.

and don't even get me started on kevin's retardation
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>>141637276
He >>141637197 will because Homura is LITERALLY mine.
t. Homura's husband.
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>>141637329
I am so sorry dude but Homura is in my bed right now and I am not even her husband.
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>>141637197
You better treat Mami with the respect she deserves. She's lived a hard life up until now.
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>>141637164
Should have bought this instead of the Ultimate Madoka fig.
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>>141637423
why not both?
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>>141637351
Fuck off Madoka. Homu told me she doesn't love you anymore. Now go marry Mami or something.
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>>141637423
I'm guessing it wasn't worth it.
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>>141637475
At that time I had no idea they were going to make a devil homura fig.
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>>141637292
Sorry I missed your post. Those are good points but I'm saying it shouldn't have escalated that far in the first place considering all the resources Sayaka had at her disposal. It wouldn't have mattered if she asked for Homuras help anyways as they wouldn't have been able to save her and Sayakas death coupled with everything else Kyoko has gone through finally pushed her over the edge.
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>>141637844
Yea I bet they're fun when you first get them but after a day or two aren't you bored of them? A lot of those figures aren't really considered cheap as well. Am I missing something?
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I love Sayaka
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>>141637953
She's ok-tier
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>>141637976
She's great tier*
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>>141638001
She's best tier*
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Homura > Kyouko > Madoka > Sayaka > Mami

Sayafags, when will they learn?
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>>141638120
While I don't agree 100% with that list it's at least respectable. I'd change one thing and I'm guessing you already know what that is.
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>>141637862
I switched to my PC so I'm able to type normally now
As I mentioned in my post already, Kyuubey was the one who created the circumstances for Sayaka's down spiral towards despair. I shouldn't even have to explain this seeing as that's alway what Kyuubey has in mind. Every magical girl in the history of ever has turned into a witch- Sayaka's process towards that point just happened to go quicker due to 1.)Hitomi's interference and 2.)Madoka throwing away her soul gem.
Take Mami for example, who despaired RIGHT AFTER learning the truth, as opposed to Sayaka who held her mental sanity for a while longer. Then comes my next point-Sayaka acting like a total cunt happened mostly because of the influence of her darkening soul gem. When she pushes Madoka away and blames her , as she's running away she realizes the wrong of her words. The series makes it a point that Sayaka has gone insane at that point and even Homura makes a mention that there's no way to salvage her. The viewers shouldn't expect reasonable actions from Sayaka either, even her sense of justice goes down the gutter, that should have been able to tell you that that wasn't even Sayaka anymore. Her only thread of sanity left is shown when she admits that she was a complete idiot seconds before turning into a with.

Not everyone possesses the mental strength that Homura and Kyouko do, and if we go by realism then Sayaka gets closer to how a girl her age would act than Homura and Kyouko do. That doesn't mean that Homura and Kyouko aren't great characters either, or that they're mary sue-ish; they're just different and in the minority.
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>>141638197
>you already know what that is
Sure thing

Homura > Kyouko > Madoka > Mami > Sayaka
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>>141638120
>having just one favorite
Homura = Kyouko = Sayaka > Madoka >>>> Mami
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>>141638280
Switch Homura and Kyoko. Sorry anon im Kyoko forever.
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>>141638347
>forever
Nah, you will betray her someday, by getting other 2D waifu.
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>>141638120
Sayaka > Kyouko > Madoka > Mami > Homura

Homushitters, when will they learn?
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If consider changing my mind if Homura was a dance dance fang in the teeth delicious apple type of girl. Homura doesn't seem like the dance dance fun rock and roll eating all the time girl Kyoko is.
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>>141638120
Sayaka >Madoka>Mami > Hitomi>Kyaku > Nagisa>Homushit
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>>141638450
>>141638533
I do hope Homu finally put Sayashit out of her misery in movie 4
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Best megucas and best ship. Homutrash can fuck off.
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>>141638519
>I'd
Why does Godess Madoka do this to me..
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>>141638657
I don't like the Kyoko Sayaka fan fiction pairing fans create anyways. I'm okay with this.
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>>141638626
I hope Madoka finally tells Homushit she never loved her
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>>141638731
Madoka can't do anything about it. Madoka will love her one way or another if that's what Homura wants.
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>>141638757
Finally someone admits Homushit is a manipulative, obsessive freak
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>>141638829
She takes what she wants. Just be happy she didn't actually want Sayaka dead.
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>>141638936
I was just happy that he didn't pair Kyoko up with Sayaka. Go away Kevin.
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Homura did some things wrong but she still has the best for everyone in mind. It's true that she's a tad bit obsessed with Madoka but that's only logical after watching her die hundreds of times and having Madoka shit all over her wish.

Sayaka did some things wrong, but she's just a fragile teenage girl that couldn't carry the burden of living out her life as a magical girl destined to have her soul obliterated after turning into the very same thing she was fighting against.

Kyouko literally did nothing wrong.

Madoka is an angel but she didn't value Homura's wish and never had any consideration for how Homura would feel after all she went through for her sake.

Mami is a yandere bitch.
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>>141639045
Mami isn't that bad. She just went a little crazy like Homura. You can't really blame her as she was probably very lonely and just wanted magical companions. At least Kyoko had her video games to keep her busy.
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