Guys, this chapter is fucking incredible for so many reasons.
Boku no Hero Academia >>141605187
Shokugeki no Souma >>141605920
Y U U M A
DOES HIS UNPREDICTABILITY AND MADNESS KNOW NO BOUNDS?
EVERY FUCKING BATTLE WITH THIS GUY, SOMETHING NEW
Can you IMAGINE the hatesex between Rokuro and Katori?
It would be so intense.
He can't attack with it and close his wounds at the same time. The scorpion bandage is a stopgap.
what did you think would happen
Though at a certain close range her sniping should become less accurate.
The cover is gorgeous.
Keep going OP, you're doing God's work.
Oh yeah, and it's convenient how much Asteroid and Spider look
I didn't notice until now that he's switched in the bottom panel to setup for this attack
What a fucking turnaround! The whole fucking battle just turned with this chapter. It was always in Tamakoma-2's favour, but this was a windfal.
Katori is going to take one of these two out next chapter, somehow. Wouldn't end the chapter like this otherwise.
So anyway, yeah, fucking amazing.
In another series there would be at least one doujin of Osamu having a threesome with Katori and Kitora, it would start as hatesex, but then Osamu would take the lead. Sadly this will never happen.
>Kitora: "These wires aren't a method to score points, they're way of helping your team-mates"
>Osamu immediately uses the wires to score points
This technique wouldn't work at all against Azuma. Against an ibis sniper you can't stay still for long or you'll get snipped through a building. They also can't have Chika sit in one spot against people with long range. This won't work against Azuma, Ninomiya or Kageura squad.
On the battlefield don't hesitate, just act. It's blow out or not at this point, who gives a shit about points?
He's good,too. If he still had his other arm he could of blocked Osamu's attack,too. Katori's mistake is what caused his loss here.
>He's good,too. If he still had his other arm he could of blocked Osamu's attack,too.
Nah. He could have blocked it as he is now using a Shield, but he didn't know it was coming.
Ninomiya definitely won't. He'll say they only got the blow out they did because of Captain Katori's lack of leadership skills and Kanzaki's unwillingness to tack decisive action until it was too late and finally, no enemy sniper to keep Chika under pressure made it effectively a handicap match for Replica squad. If you want a Ninomiya complement they'll have to impress him in a match where their opponents are just as into this as they are.
>mad-tier creativeness and adaptation powers
>god-tier keikaku balancing on the precog tier
>could probably do EXTERMINATUS on the Neighbourhood alone
Literally "plz ban or afk" team. And it will only get stronger with Hyuse
I want punished Osamu going back to the past to kill his former self, like Archer did it. I don´t like Shirou, but the the trope about your future self being so done that has to go back in time to kill you is good.
Slightly apprehensive that all this focus on Katori could mean she might still pull out a win over Osamu and Yuma. She hasn't shown anything ace-like yet...
If she takes the two of them out at the same time she's taken out, that'd leave the follow-up chapter a 1v1 between Chika and Teruya.
As a military organization, is it really rational to make squads only have 3 or 4 people and rely exclusively on one intel operator?
Real militaries value team work of course, but in much larger groups and they expect you to be able to team up with more than 2 people.
It just seems inefficient.
In many ways the series is contrived and inconvenient, period.
It's really one of those things you have to accept. At its foundation, even something as simple as the existence of trion and the means to use it being Border-exclusive is so goddamn absurd and would never happen in reality.
>>Raygust in sword mode
Thruster her now, Osamu.
Nah, she would probably say that she was right into teaching Osamu spider and his usage was "not bad".
Border is a private organization. It's structur is quasi military but it is still private.
>3 or 4 people, with full radar, half a dozen weapons strapped on and quite easily able to take out any normal weaponry you can imagine
It makes sense to have operators for smaller squads in this scenario. Though only if you have to do small time operations.
As seen in the invasion arcs, squad works together and share any info anyone obtains.
They can work together though, the 3-4 member teams are just platoons or whatever.
Thing is that Trigger users are much more powerful and efficient than normal soldiers, they can also do a lot of shit that would make your head hurt. So having someone command let's say 12 of them at the same time is just too much.
Still it's obvious that the main reason is not making it convoluted for the reader
They really should keep firing. Raygust is tough, but it'll break after enough punishment. Inukai was on the verge of beating Osamu by just keeping up the machine gun fire until the shield breaks.
>Yuma and Mikumo doing combat as a tag team
It's about time.
Hope the next chapter has more sick combos like this.
She might not say it, but she'll certainly think it. Kitora wants glory but doesn't want people to know that she wants glory.
The problem with that is Chika. If they get into position to take some shots at Osamu, it means that they're exposed to Chika's sniper fire.
Basically both Katori's and Kakizaki's units fucked up royally by not splitting someone off to take out Chika when they encountered resistance in trying to reach her. That's left them fighting Osamu and Yuma, while Chika has a line of fire to support them. Forcing them to either constantly be moving, or constantly be in cover, to avoid being hit by Chika.
It's not so unrealistic. Even in real life soldiers tend to be grouped into 3-4 member fireteams, which are then grouped into 8 to 12 member squads. Small teams where everyone fulfils a different role are more practical for modern urban warfare and you can group them together if you need numbers. There's also the fact that having a small number of people in combat simplifies things for the mangaka.
The bizarre aspect is that the teams are able to choose their own make-ups. In real life they don't let every soldier equip themselves exclusively in grenade launchers and the grenade launcher accessories.
Going by the precedent of every other Osamu Kitora interaction, Osamu will get a compliment from someone, Kitora will get annoyed, then Osamu will explain Kitora's role. She's got a bit too much pride to mention it herself.
It's a shame Osamu and Kitora started off on the wrong foot. Osamu's constant desire to tell the truth and congratulate other people goes alone perfectly with Kitora's desire to be congratulated.
Well she does respect/like him to some degree, considering him a rival/someone she can't stop being concerned over.
She is regularly annoyed with him and would likely be even if they started on a good foot. She actually did him a favor at the start of the series after realizing he wasn't just some showoff brazen punk (vouched for him when he had to meet with Border execs).
Most teenagers in border wouldn´t be in border if they were told by organization which trigger they have to use. I mean, it sound like tons of fun choosing your own style, with this system you get things like Arafune team or the one man army that is able to stay in the upper rank of the B-class being the only guy in his team.
Hell, with some luck you can ask for your dream one, like Yoneya´s spear. You could even ask for a flore trigger and maybe they would make one.
I hope this means a rivalry is formed, 143 chapters into the series. Now for glorious hatesex doujins.
I'd argue osamu gets assists for both of yuma's kills this match due to the wires, and you could probably make a case for chika getting 3 assists in the first match when she blew that one team out of the house into the welcoming embrace of yuma's scorpion.
>I'd argue osamu gets assists for both of yuma's kills this match due to the wires
I will give him kakizaki for Osamu but tunroe or whatever his name was is a chika assist
B-rank 16(3) killed by Yuma
B-rank 17(3) killed by Yuma (Assist by chika)
Tally up: Yuma six kills and Chika three assists
Tsu killed by Yuma
Hisato killed by Yuma (Assist by Chika)
Arafune Kills Chika
Arafune killed by Yuma (Trion Loss)
Suwa is killed by Osamu (Assist by Yuma)
Tally up: Yuma 3 Kills and one assist, Chika one assist plus one death and Osamu one kill
Sniper qt killed by Yuma
Ko killed by Yuma (Assist by Chika)
Osamu is killed by Nasu
Tally up Yuma 2 kills, Chika one assist and Osamu one death
Osamu is killed by GODzuma
Yuma kills Okudera
Yuma is killed by Ninomiya
Tally up Yuma gains 1 kill well also a death and Osamu gains another death
Tunroe is killed by Yuma (Assist Chika)
Kakizaki is killed by Yuma (Assist Osamu)
Wakamaru is killed by Osamu
Roko is killed by Osamu (Assist Yuma)
Tally up (so far) Yuma gains 2 kills and an assist, Chika gets another assist, Osamu gains 2 kills as well as an assist
Anon it's Tomoe. And in match five you can count Osamu and Chika for the assists.
Kakizaki and Tomoe had problems to navigate due to wires.
Kakizaki lost an arm due to Chika.
Wakamura was already hurt due to Yuma.
Arm and shit.
Roko lost an arm to Chika.
In this round all of T2 got a piece of the defeated ones.
The operator doesn't look sorry, she looks like she's had enough of this fiasco. Like she's wasting her time and wants to go home where she doesn't have to deal with their shit.
Didn't know you were giving only 1 assist per kill; I was assuming the first out on kakizaki was an assist to both, as was the second on katori (already missing on arm due to a chika LB). Yuma also landed a decent cut onto rokuro, but I don't think it was significant enough to factor into him going down.
Really depends on whether you give an assist to a significant contribution, or any contribution at all; I was leaning towards the latter. Still, that's a pretty neat chart/timeline you typed up, so thanks for that, anon.
>Tfw to many characters and you messed up
For some reason i always thought only the explosion itself would deal damage.
Since the blast, and the flying rabble is physical and would have troube to deal damage.
But will her backstory make her seem worse or better? From what I'm reading it seems like Katori thinks Osamu's motivation is shit. She had a better motivation to make the away team and gave up on it, therefore Osamu shouldn't try to make it because he has flimsy determination
Maneuvering and being accurate an Ibis when her opponent is so close doesn't seem doable, and she doesn't have anything to gain by blowing more buildings up
What she should do is go full Shield and buy time for her team. I don't think there's anything Teruya can do that can break a Shield generated by Chika
Plus you can't defend yourself once you're caught, since thinning out the shield in an attempt to block the Asteroid will earn you a Raygust to your face.
I don't think you can even counter that move if you're not a shooter or a Scorpion user. He probably could've beaten Inukai with it.
I never thought to look, personally. The way some people were talking I had already assumed we'd never get it. Which would have been awful, considering the OST was the best part of the anime.
If Chika thinks to do that then she's pretty unstoppable. The problem with Chika is that there's a whole bunch of What If tactics where she's totally broken, but in the present day she lacks the experience and the resolve to implement them effectively.
Raygust is heavy and slow. Even Thruster seems to have a lead up time. If you're able to block the first attack you'll be able to retaliate before Osamu can pull off another. Use anchor mode, or use two shields for full guard, then retaliate after he's used his attacks. Basically, keep a cool head, guard, then attack when he's open.
Kazama and Wakamura both tried to fight back and ended up getting killed for it. Inukai just kept up his shield and avoided all damage.
He could have done exactly the same thing if it was the sword or if he was tripped. Block the first attack, block the follow up attack, then shoot back. Being on the floor might be embarrassing but it doesn't disable your guns.
Wot. Have you read any of the manga? Rank wars is just a training game.
In actual battle each squad has 1 dedicated operator helping them in live combat with radar, maps, nightvision, linking hearing, etc.. and above them are the HQ operators who relay commands and tell the squads what enemy to engage or what place to defend and it's usually multiple squads working together.
Basically nothing about Border makes sense in the context of the real world, unless they're seriously abusing the ability to erase memories. Remember how Border can erase memories, right?
Then again, considering that Ashihara has his own zodiac, and comments like how Karasawa was part of an "evil organization" before working at Border, this probably isn't quite the real world. If we take "evil organization" to mean something on the lines of Shocker, then maybe crazy secret societies aren't so uncommon in this setting.
It is bizarre. Why did Ashihara choose to make Border a non-profit company funded by donations? What's the point? Why can't it just be a government agency? It makes so much more sense.
>how Karasawa was part of an "evil organization" before working at Border
Where'd he say that? He jokes a lot, so I don't know
part of the 303 Q&A? I haven't read all of that yet.
Well it might be more down to earth than your usual shonens but it's still fantasy. I think the evil organization thing is just a reference to his previous manga though.
Probably he doesn't want to complicate the manga with inter "earthling" conflict. Same with the secret around the trigger technology. Having espionnage and others treacherous plot is done to death in that kind of setting. And he may feel a lot less patriot than the GATE dude for example.
Make it a intergovernmental organisation, like NATO or CERN. Say that countless countries came together to try and protect the Earth from Neighbours, rather than a group of five guys came together and got funding from one city.
First, he would have to know a shit ton about others countries politics to make it believable, and second it's not gonna play well with jump and its audience. He is making a manga for young japanese mainly.
But that can't be enough by itself. If you say there are international agents, the readers are gonna want to see them, as well as maybe others cities and border.
As far as world building goes, you can't just say something and get it done (or you will have complaints like yours in a neverending circle).
Exactly the same thing is true with the current situation. If you say that Border is funded by private organisations, people are going to want to know who's funding it and why. If you say that trion is a secret to everyone but companies that make deals with Border, people are going to want to know what they're doing with it. On top of that we're left wondering what the rest of the world is doing anyway.
And with yuiga for example, and all the shenanigans around the border communication with the media, there is a decent chance to see something come out of it at one point or another.
As for the rest of the planet, think as much as you want, the story just doesn't want to go there.
This might be the most advanced Spider work we see in quite a long time. Most teams have some kind of long range ability, so Osamu won't be able to sit still and set up his spider webs at his own pace. This is just showing what he can do with them at their best, before he gets forced to improvise and adapt to someone else's plan.
Not to mention that it's ranked low on the Trigger Tier list, so hardly anyone bothered to pick it up let alone come up with different ways to use it.
He'll probably stay hidden until he's sure that he's out of the snipers' range, then set up once the opposing operators are too distracted with something else to notice that he's popped back out on radar.
Does anyone know what Hyuse's name is supposed to be? We know that everyone else from Aftokrator (and seemingly everyone from the other Neighbour countries) has a Greek name, but I can't find any Greek word that sounds like Hyūsu.
Would be better if Osamu tells her "Katori, I just mined that place with asteroid earlier" before going blowing her up or making her look somewhere else for Kuga to deliver the finishing blow.
>Panel 1: Osamu, this is what I used to believe, and I've become disillusioned. Aren't you also disillusioned?
>Panels 2 & 3: Katori, just because you're depressed, it doesn't mean that I'm depressed.
Anon, any kind of Organizations that's under public control wouldn't work half as efficient as Border.
Except maybe the military. But then again, the problem of child soldiers would arise and it would be brought to death by public.
Don't worry anons, Osamu wrecking shit was one time accident. Tomorrow everything will return to norm.
Fuck you, the reign of Osamu "The Spider" Mikomu has just started. It will last 3 decades and go into the history books as the most dominant and great era ever. Buildings, places, cities and even countries will be named after him.
>There's something funny about how Yuuma just slaps her hand off.
>If T2 wants to be really cruel and deny points to either team....
Regardless of fighting, if it looks like Yuma is about to run out of trion, then Osamu should shoot Yuma up. The killing blow goes to Osamu (but doesn't add a ranking point) and not Sasamori. If Yuma runs out of trion while Teruya is hiding, then Sasamori gets the credit and gets a ranking point for his team. But denying a point in that way would be like Ninomiya's ruthless style.
Since Katori doesn't move well, they should quickly chop her gun up so she doesn't use it, then run off to kill Teruya before she gets Chika. That would give max bitterness to Katori as being ignored now as an opponent.
But as points go, they should finish off Katori for the one point, then have Chika switch to bagworm to evade Teruya as Chika moves toward Osamu and Yuma. Chika then grabs onto Yuma for the rest of the match and transfers trion into Yuma so that he never runs out. She transferred trion to Osamu before.
Thans a bunch anon.
If it weren't so gay i would offer you some hugs. Have a happy loli instead
It does fit the sounds. I'm not entirely sure it fits the theme. Everyone else's names translate as something to do with their personality or their function, but his is just "pig". He's repeatedly called a dog and his trigger is called "fireflies" or "shield of butterflies" but he's actually called "pig"?
It also doesn't fit T2's theme. Everyone in T2 has some connection to the sky: The first kanji in "Kuga" (空) means "sky", the first kanji in "Amatori" (雨) means "rain" and the second kanji in Mikumo (雲) means "cloud". I guess Shiori doesn't fit this theme either.
Oh well, maybe dirty commoners don't get to have fitting names.
He did get sweaty when Osamu was godsniped. Yuiga probably just likes the fact that there's someone who can't bully him.
>the second kanji in Mikumo (雲) means "cloud"
Huh, I was reading a manga the other day that used a cloud and a spider in a weird visual pun
I'm still waiting for someone in the manga to give him an embarrassing nickname based off of this. The coincidence in his trigger choice is too good to pass up
From what we saw when Yuma enlisted, it's weekly training. Osamu probably sucked at all of it. He also probably stopped going after he made B-rank between how awkward it'd be to be a B-rank in basic training, and how much other shit he has going on. Now he does all his training in private.
>Osamu's A-rank trigger shoots reinforced spiders and we see some Just Cause-esque grappling hook shenanigans
Anime was great in the aspect of adding "fillerish" scenes with Yuiga, Izumi and Arashiyama team during that match.
You could see that they were seriously rooting for Osamu.
And now we saw how fucking hyped Izumi is seeing Spider God in action. I bet Yuiga jumped on bed/sofa from excitement when Osamu got double kill.
But IMHO he should bro it up with Ko and Nasu. They could get along nicely and training/competitive scenes could be used to flesh out new tactics/powers Osamu uses. Like the double sided shooting with Raygust attack. That's seriously good move as you have to be really good/have fuckton of trion to block it.
Then Ko would give Osamu some Raygust training, Nasu some much needed IMO Viper/advanced shooter training and then go to Yuiga to complete his "quest" and start composite bullet training.
I can already imagine next opponent
NINOMIYAcreating weak but big shield to block barrage of asteroids only to be killed by single gimlet hidden between them.
The SaltMaker Spider God strikes again!
But remember that he was quite agile and fast during Afto invasion. Maybe not at the beginning but during 1st Rabbit fight and onwards he was seriously GOTTA GO FAST tier. Almost.
Shooter. Lamprys is so goddamn versatile that a gun trigger would be a massive step down for Hyuse.
The main reason people use gun triggers is that they're easier to control than cube trigger. You can attack accurately and reliably at reasonably long range, without having to worry about floating your cubes into the right positions before you attack. Hyuse is already used to controlling thousands of floating trion shards. His fighting style is all about shaping and positioning these shards to best exploit the current situation, so he's already the perfect shooter.
I suspect he'll be a Viper specialist with the same reprogramming ability as Izumi and Nasu. He might add in Lead Bullet to recreate the disabling abilities of Lamprys.
Am I the only one that's been noticing the honorifics throughout this most recent battle?
>amatori-san (teruya), amatori-chan (izumi)
Is there some kind of perceived familiarity with tamakoma due to the plot events?
I usually look for them since viz doesn't keep them and there's some fun stuff like Miwa's "Jin.......san". Or Nino's "Tachikawa no yarou". But I don't see what you mean by familiarity here? Those seem pretty standard.
In the latest chapter, Teruya went from Amatori-san to Kuga-kun in the same sentence, which strikes me as odd. I'm pretty sure Katori's operator used Mikumo-kun(as every character seems to do) but then switched to -san for Teruya.
Maybe I'm just reading too deeply into the situation, but it seems like the other squads take Tamakoma less seriously, or something.
Izumi and Tokieda both helped train Osamu, so they might be treating him with familiarity. Izumi is generally laid back, and also he helped rescue Chika during the invasion, so he might be treating Chika with familiarity as well. No idea why no-one treats Yuma with any respect. Maybe he just gives off that kind of impression.
I don't see it. Granted I'm not an expert but I think she's older than the boys so -kun is fine. As for chika and teruya they get san because -kun for girls is too teacher/boss-like and they are not close enough or she's not blunt enough to drop honorifics all together.
Osamu actually dies in the middle of the series giving birth to a black trigger, something something similar to Lubbock´s weapon in Akame ga Kill, but stronger.
>Osamu dies in a chapter titled "Osamu Mikumo Final"
>There's even an "Osamu Mikumo Epilogue" of just people mourning
>A RL year passes
>A chapter is titled "Osamu 1"
>Osamu returns not as a human but as a human-trigger amalgamation
>still wear glasses
Yeah, I can understand the people that have interacted with Osamu/Yuma before.But for the operators of other squads, having never even spoken to them, using -kun seems a little disrespectful.
You're right about the ages; I didn't realize Osamu was only 15 and that he's the same age as Yuma, must just be the height differences messing with me after all this time. That being said, it doesn't really explain why Teruya herself doesn't remain consistent with -chan for Chika.
I've always taken it that -san is used to show a certain respect to people you haven't had prior interactions with, and opposite to that, using kun/chan with people you haven't met before generally implies some kind of superiority.
He wouldn't be able to make one
Q. 193: It seems that Black Triggers are left by users with superior trion abilities, but how many of the current agents might be able to leave one?
Even for superior users luck is involved a little in whether they can leave behind a Black Trigger or not (so there aren’t many people willing to become Black Triggers voluntarily), but it is said that if it’s people with Side Effects creating Black Triggers the success rate rises quite a lot.
Just wait till it turns out he's just sweating out his superior trion and that the glasses are in reality his SE.
Whoever uses his BT gains instantly megane.
>A chapter is titled "Osamu 1"
I would rather see it like either Zalgo-like tittle with strange symbols or ?????. Missing No. like.
-san is just your normal standard respect. but -kun or chan for that matter doesn't have to be disrespectful. Sure you can look down on someone but you can use it with someone usually younger than you normally too although obviously chan is more cutesy and it doesn't fit all situations or people.
One question. If gunner is simplified class to use trion bullets, are they considered as another class altogether or actually shooter as well. If it's the former, is there any 1st gunner as well then ?
Am I the only one who thinks Karasuma was the worst mentor for Osamu? Surely he can't be proud about Osamu's growth considering he didn't really teach him much. He must feel like shit after watching this match.
It was explained so many times - Karasuma gave the best possible training for Osamu at the time.
He had to rise his base stats as much as possible in a short amount of time. Because of that he could learn other things faster and use it in a more efficient manner.
He told him that his most powerful weapon was keikaku and it was proven right in Nasu/Suwa/Murakami match. Then Osamu got greedy and wanted to learn advanced techniques to be like Nasu and it fucked him over just like Karasuma said.
And it's because of him that Osamu got to know Izumi and Arashiyama agreed to train him during this busy time.
But yeah, Karasuma is the best teacher for talented guys since he can amp it up to 200%.
Osamu has talent but lacks the basics.
Besides Osamu is agent for less than a half year (I kinda remember it being 3 moths even?) and he got to the like lower mid-B rank level skill.
Even Kitora said he could catch up in ONLY 2 years.
So yeah, he can't suddenly gain A-rank skills from Karasuma, he needs to train for a long time. Just like current best players - they trained and got good.
Another possible reason people address Yuma with -kun is that they don't know him well, so they assume he's younger than he is.
Remember he still looks like he's 11 due to the condition of his body. I don't think someone in their mid to late teens or older using -kun for an 11 year old would be particularly unusual.
What I expect from Karasuma now is giving Osamu some tips for new usages of spider (and general keikaku training), see if his exercises can be now upgraded for gaining more innate mobility (so eventually he can use his own wires), maybe introducing him to the Trapper guy to learn about trap triggers and, in the best scenario, introducing him to Ko and Nasu. At the same time I would like it if Reiji also helped him as he offered before. And maybe a few sparring matches with Konami to get experience against battle-maniacs.
He needs to experience it to improve his keikaku against such unpredictable enemies.
Nasu seems to be better at programming bullets. And he has Izumi waiting to teach him composite bullets.
He should get all the info/training he can get. Izumi is also a A-rank so he has many responsibilities and duties.
Besides he's not a sick-moe girl who turns into super fighter dominator.
>Then Osamu got greedy and wanted to learn advanced techniques to be like Nasu and it fucked him over just like Karasuma said.
It really didn't.
Osamu's fuck up in the Azuma/Nino/Kageura match was standing still for a matter of seconds. Now you can say "Oh he stood still because he was looking to attack when he should have been running" but that's pure hindsight. At the time he had four occupied enemies in front of him in an enclosed space, it was the perfect situations for him to deal a little damage. He's smart, but he's not psychic. He's not going to immediately think "Oh, the little Azumalings showed themselves because Azuma himself is ready to back them up by shooting through walls."
I think it's ideal that Osamu gets all of his shooter training from Izumi, but Izumi isn't Osamu's personal mentor and has a lot more on his plate, especially if it comes to teaching basics, not even composite bullets. You don't need college professors to middle schoolers algebra; Nasu's also extremely talented in her own right while still on Osamu's level, and she has the benefit of facing him before.
He's really not the best. Konami is pretty bad as well. She got really, really lucky that Yuma was already trained and just needed a bit of experience.
I know people will defend Karasuma by saying something like "Osamu needs to learn the fundamentals before he can do anything fancy" and that's mostly true, but it doesn't excuse the fact that we've never seen Karasuma give even the tiniest of shits about Osamu's training. His advice thus far has been "keep doing what you're doing" and "if you want to learn, talk to people who know what they're talking about." In contrast we've seen Reiji thinking and talking to others about the best way to help Chika.
Yeah, both of Ninomiya's goons knew what was going on. They fight against Azuma all the time though.
I'm not the guy that said that, but I think what he was getting at is that Nasu is really skilled at using the different types of bullets relative to her rank. I also don't think he was saying Nasu was better overall, but that in terms of programming/making patterns out of viper/tomahawk bullets. She might be better than Izumi is in that regard since that's clearly her specialty and I don't know if we've seen Izumi fight enough (if at all?) to make a judgment based off of that.
This is why I think Karasuma was the worst option to be a mentor. If anything Reji should have taken over once Osamu learned the basics. Hopefully in the future he will. Its not like Karasuma as anything more to teach at this point.
Osamu doesn't really need a mentor, he needs fights. He's been having pretty good ideas from the very beginning, even before he knew half of the functions of his own triggers he was using them intelligently, he just lacks the battle experience to use them effectively.
Drop Osamu into the solo wars for a while. Let him get a few thousand battles under his belt and he'll be a changed man.
I'd like to see some of his mock fights with Yuiga, but this time with his Spider trigger.
He needs to come up with new ways to trick opponents who become accustomed to those traps.
I can't imagine Spider would be overly useful in a 1v1, especially if they know he's going to be setting up. It works well in rank wars because there's a much greater risk of dying by rushing in alone, and the casters even mentioned that by withdrawing from the fight to talk strats they give him more time to set up.
Unless his Deus Ex Trip wire doesn't need other wires pulling their attention, in which case all bets are off.
Can they see his rank? Don't the C-rank solo booths only display points and trigger? I guess people will be able to work it out from the fact he has 4000 something points, unless he uses a trigger he doesn't have that many points with. He might have less than 4000 with raygust, seeing as he bypassed the normal C-rank process.
I'm sure there are some lower bracket of B-rank that would love a chance to bully Osamu. There are loads of people like the Three Idiots who are willing to pick on weak people to slowly build up points.
Shooting through a building like that is something difficult that Azuma rarely does according to the commentators. Azuma probably has hundreds of hours of video to go through, and I doubt there's a highlights reel labeled "Crazy shit Azuma can do".
So I don't blame Osamu for not knowing that Azuma could pull off such a difficult shot. There's probably a lot of stuff that Azuma can do, that Osamu simply wouldn't come across in the time he had to research his opponent. Especially with the other things he had going on.
Is there a rule against team killing to prevent points?
Say Yuma sets up a suicide with Katori and Osamu finishes them both off. Would that prevent the Yuma point going to Kakizaki, and then they'd just be down a survival point?
>I'm sure there are some lower bracket of B-rank that would love a chance to bully Osamu.
Even better I'm sure Izumi would love to find some people to fight with Osamu.
>Okay Osamu I found you an opponent who's willing to go 100 rounds with you
>W-who would that be
>I called Katori and told her you were down in the solo rank wars booth calling her a stupid lazy bitch. The call ended with the sound of what I assume was her phone being crushed in her hand. Good luck!
TL anon here. I wasn't planning on posting this but oh well. This was posted on 2ch by an ID that has given reliable spoilers in the past. It's spoilers for the next chapter.
>Next week is mostly Katori's flashback.
>She lived next door to her Operator Hana so they were on pretty good terms with each other.
>The first invasion caused buildings and the surrounding to be completely destroyed.
>The one that came to save Katori was Hana.
>It seems that her hand was injured quite severely because of this.
There seems to be some speculation from other sites that this is why Hana wears gloves.
>Hana's family helped Katori and her family....or something like that.
>Katori thought about her past self where she never hid and faced her opponents head on when she talked to Osamu about dreams and trying hard.
>Katori: 「Don't give me that expression like you're the main character of all of this…!!」
There's also unconfirmed talk about World Trigger getting the cover for the issue after the next issue for the third anniversary. (WJ26)
>Next week is mostly Katori's flashback.
God I hope not.
>There's also unconfirmed talk about World Trigger getting the cover for the issue after the next issue for the third anniversary. (WJ26)
I'm down for that, though.
Shit. Let me fix a line.
>Hana's family helped Katori and her family....or something like that.
>Katori's family was saved but Hana's family was...Katori gets agitated after thinking about the past.
I'd never blame anyone who loses to Azuma. I just think he should have at least been on guard more like these two. >>141657314
>a highlights reel labeled "Crazy shit Azuma can do".
They should make one of these. I imagine it'd be sold out immediately.
It's starting to sound like she took on too much of a burden and burned herself out. I'm guessing Hana tried to join Border as an agent but had poor trion aptitude, so Katori became the agent in her place.
Katori and Somei seem to both be farther in Kido's faction than Wakamura and Miura, so this would make sense
Iirc when Yuma fought with Midorikawa he had to press on a black square thingy to view official agents as well, so yes they would know Osamu is an official agent.
Also official agents automatically start at 4000 points with any main Trigger they pick up later. Osamu got promoted to B-Rank as a Raygust user with 4k points, then he picked up Asteroid and since he's already an official agent he started with 4k on Asteroid as well.
you mean like lesbian friends?
Points don't always reflect ability; as mentioned in the previous thread Nasu's points are higher than her actual ability because she gets most of the kills from her team and Kuma's are less than she should be. Nino probably ranks higher than Izumi due to Chuuni beard taking all the kills while Nino is free to get his own kills.
Izumi invented composite bullets and he taught Nino stuff.
>Is there a rule against team killing to prevent points?
I don't think it's been specifically addressed, but Kumagai was defeated when her own meteor shots blew up in her face after Murakami launched his shield at her. She technically blew herself up, but the point went to Murakami.
So I would guess any self inflicted damage that is the result of an enemy action would probably be counted as a point for your enemy. Really, it would kind of reduce the point of the rule about needing to be a certain distance from an enemy before bailing out if your allies could just take you out instead to bypass the rule.
>Is there a rule against team killing to prevent points?
I wonder if Yuma could've mercy killed Chika in the last match as an alternative to bailing out. It wasn't an option at the time because he was occupied, but I can't see why it wouldn't be allowed.
I didn't realize just how insane Azuma was in that match until I reread the manga and rewatched that battle
>Sniping through smoke and dust clouds
And no one came anywhere near getting to him. Truly MotM
The way it works is that we have one thread when spoilers come out that last 1-3 days and then another thread when the vizanon dumps the viz scans that lasts for a similar amount of time.
It's better this way. No generals or tripfags mucking things up, discussion tends to be focused on the latest chapter as a rule, and threads die when they need to die.
WT has a dedicated but low-key fanbase, which is nice. Really, the reason the threads lasting so long are because:
1. We're at a high point in the manga with Mikumo finally stepping up. It's been a long time building up to this payoff.
2. BBF getting scanned and translated naturally invites discussion and commentary.
3. Staggered replies from people who are just tuning in or posters who have questions or comments about pages makes these threads last longer than usual.
That sort of guard comes from experience that Osamu simply doesn't have. "If Azuma's team is attacking, it means Azuma's in position to shoot any of us" is something that it'd be difficult to conclude from watching videos. It's almost guaranteed there will be times where that isn't the case.
If Azuma hadn't been in position, and hadn't sniped Osamu through the walls, Osamu would have been in a great position. He'd have been shooting down a corridor with no cover, at two different teams. Either someone fails to block his shots because they're busy fighting and Osamu gets a point, or someone tries to counter attack Osamu and gets cut down by the other team resulting in Osamu being protected, or everyone initially guards, and one team ends up pincered between Osamu and the other team.
But Azuma was in position, and he wasn't having any of that shit. He likely knew what was coming as soon as Osamu didn't run away, and took out Osamu ASAP to prevent it.
Nothing a Osamus RAYGUST with continuous THRUSTER can't fix
But at the same time imagine the salt levels if Hana became very friendly with Osamu.
God, Katori is such a great designed character.
A large part of it is that Azuma has loads more experience, I'm sure. Also keep in mind that the skill totals can veil full potential because it really depends on how the scores interact with each other on the whole.
Azuma's abilities are reflected in his composite scores in Defense/Support, Skill, Range, and Special Tactics. While Touma and Narasaka can beat him in particular areas, Azuma just has a wealth of techniques and experience to draw from that make him this extremely dominant if he cares to flex himself.
Number 34 on the soundtrack is so damn good. I've been waiting ever sense the debut of the filler qt.
Well anon, we have never seen Izumi doing something similar complex to that.
Only altering flight trajectories to confuse the afto neighbour. Nasu on the other hand went batshit insane the two times we saw her fighting.
Not doubting Izumi could probably do something similar but right now Nasu seems superior in the programming sector.
I don't think that can be taught though, it was said that Nasu is a shooter prodigy because she doesn't use previously prepared schemes but actually calculates the path of each bullet individually.
>Don't give me that expression like you're the main character of all of this…!!
Ashihara don't you go breaking the 4th wall on me.
I wouldn't be able to stop admiring you madman.
And probably laughing.
I guess you need to keep the trigger equipped to alter bullet's behavior (like Osamu did in the last chapter when he attacked glasses with asteroid bullets planted beforehand). I think if bullets are programmed and released you don't have to keep using trigger.
So Katori's haughtiness is nothing but projecting her own negative feelings on others. She really should quit border if she doesn't want to be there beyond living out her friend's dream.
I don't know, Anon. People have been speculating that Kitora has a personal reason to fight for quite a while now. This spoiler still doesn't explain why Kitora (and Wakamura) talked in such generalities before the match.
>Why are you bringing that up?
>Oh, no reason. Just thought it might provide some interesting background to them
>Lots of people have similar stories here in Border
If they were really referring to Hana's family/hands, why conceal that? Were they aware the audience was reading the meeting? Were they trying to set-up for a dramatic moment later on?
I think he is trying to imply something to Katori without saying it, but she just brushes it off.
>Karoti (spelled 'Karochi')
Man, can't think of anything else that sounds nice. Other than a robotic clone of Kitora named KITOR-4 or something. But this isn't Index.
Add some puns there too to their faces
>Osamu: I even gave you a HANDicap of being alone here Katori...
>Yuuma: Your wires really came in HANDY Osamu.
>Osamu: Yeah, this turned out to be quite a LEGit strategy after all.
>Yuuma: Geee Osamu, it almost looked like everyone danced in the palm on of your HAND.
No. Not for a while. I've been exploring other potential options but we will see if they pan out. I hate using the Korean scans. As for why this was out so early, WT spoilers have come out as early as Tuesday in the past. The spoiler provider retired a short while ago but it seems that he's back from the dead for the third anniversary.
She probably was, but Ninomiya and Kageura squad are still scoring about three points per match. Even with everyone trying to run and hide, Nino and Kage squad are managing to wipe out an entire enemy team each round.
OK, let's do some combinatorics. There are eight teams in the top bracket. There are 56 three team combinations (8 choose 3) and 70 four team combinations (8 choose 4). There are 21 three team combinations (7 choose 2) and 35 four team combinations (7 choose 3) that include Katori squad, and only 6 (6 choose 1) three team or 15 (6 choose 2) four team combinations that include Katori and Ninomiya squad. That means they'll be against Ninomiya squad about 30% of the time in three man matches and about 40% of the time in four man matches. Assuming three and four man matches are equally likely, Katori squad will be fighting Ninomiya 21 times out of 56, exactly 37.5% of the time.
Do we know how many matches they have per season? Six, at least?
You know what else was in fun facts?
>When you keep losing, gratuitous kindness will eventually become a burden
What did she mean by this? Osamu hasn't been losing, he lost once. Nor has he received gratuitous kindness, Izumi told him that he couldn't help unless he killed Yuiga 100 times.
Is she basing her judgements on the ten minute lecture Arashiyama gave him?
Personal failure anon, they won the matches but every time Osamu went out to score points and just ended up giving them away to other teams.
Izumi also might not have actually taught him how to do composite bullets, but he still took time out of his schedule to talk to him and to watch over those 150 matches he did against Yuiga.
The fact that he even gets to spend time with Tachikawa and Arashiyama squad should impress you. We're talking about the very top squad and the PR squad, their time should be quite valuable. What if everyone with ambitions for the rank wars went to them asking for personal training?
Then everyone with ambitions for the rank wars should save the lives of a close relative of an A-rank member, then win an outstanding achievement award during a major invasion.
It was. At a guess, they wanted the 3rd year anniversary stuff to be done closer to the chapter number the series would be up to if there weren't any breaks. Normally at 48 chapters a year, a series would hit the three year mark at 144 chapters. Due to all the breaks for Ashihara's health, World Trigger was only up to chapter 130 when the anniversary date rolled around. So they probably decided to postpone the celebration until it reached the normal chapter count.
Yeah, but in a way that's based off of his own ability and not him taking the credit for something someone else did. The marmod attacking school incident left Afto know about C-rankers not having bailout, and the Invasion led with replica getting cutting in half and taken away to Afto, both of which Osamu's got guilt about.
Osamu dosent consider himself a hero because to him a heroic action has the perfect outcome for everyone. He is only someone who can do what he believes is right. Why do you think he didn't get mad at Jin when he revealed his actions were purely utilitarian? Because Jin did what he believes is right.
>just another day for agent Mikumo.jpg
Wasn't it stated that other agents are really suspicious/jelly about Osamu and that he constantly meets with Scarface and other chiefs, top A agents etc.?
>A-rank series match
>T-2 fights with Kazama and Tachikawa
>Suddenly Osamu trips on his own wire
>He accidentally beheads Chameleon'ed Kazama with Raygust
>suddenly a wild Tachikawa appears
>He starts his chunni monologue how Osamu finally activated his inner eye, how this is a fated duel, how his blades tingle with excitement etc. etc.
>during all this Osamu gets the cubes ready
>Tachikawa says that he will use his true power against Osamu and starts unbelting the belts, but kinda does it slowly and with problems
>Osamu shoots him in the meantime
>Agent Tachikawa bailed out
>Whole Border reaction is literally WHAT THE FLYING FUCK JUST HAPPENED
>Rukia execution date was changed.webm
And so Agent Mikumo was first captain ever to acquire #0 rank as A-rank team.
On the topic of Smash Borders, the gatcha is cheaper this week but the high star pull rates are still standard
>3 gems for one roll
>35 gems for 10 rolls
Katori sure is dominating the chapters of this match in terms of presence and now we are going to get a full backstory? Ashihara must have accidently created a new favorite character for himself.
What is Nasu Squad going to do after their Sniper leaves? It doesn't seem like they're gonna fracture and go their separate ways but they can't really win anything with just 2 combat members. Are they gonna poach? Or train up a talented rookie?
>not just having a head pillow that tilts his head forward slightly
>or having holes for his horns to go through
He's gotta have some method down other than sleeping on his face.
Trappers seem to need high trion to power their traps. During the invasions Fuyushima had to link his traps to Border HQ's trion reserves. Osamu is probably too weak to use Switchbox well.
Osamu is going to end up as a defensive shooter/territory control specialist, but not go full trapper.
>Ashihara has probably been waiting for the right moment in the story to celebrate
>Cover might come the chapter after Katori's flashback if spoilers are to be believed
So in two weeks, something incredible is gonna go down that'll somehow top what just happened in this chapter?
>Dragging out the match with flashbacks so Ashihara can end the match with T-2 victory and the anniversary color spread
>The anniversary color spread replaces Jin with Hyuse in celebration of the new T-2 team
>Jin dies next arc
Beuh. That's funny. None of Usami or Tamakoma's becoming a main character. Why would Hyuse ever staying as T 2 if he could comeback to Afto.
Ashihara declared that the 4 is main charas. I think he is smart enough to know that subtituting one is suicide
Ashihara didn't need to drag out the match since his real anniversary was in February. The thing that's dragging out the match is the combination of the other teams not being setup before the match due to the invasion and the slow kill of T-2's startegy.
He's not going to die nor kidnapped.
Border will suffer heavy defeat despite Jin's precog. The strategy he proposed failed because Neighbors had predict that someone in Meeden have the precog ability.
Jin become depressed and quit from border and become shut-in hikkikomori
Do you think Tamakoma will get a new squad in the future?