What's the most pretentious anime you've ever watched?
Ergo Proxy, because its premise it tried to be thought provoking and fell on its face in the delivery.
Bakeshit attempting phillosophy is still a sideline from what it is, a high production harem. As for the LN's I can't t imagine how bland they'd be with the anime to support them.
>Tfw you find
That was you, wasn't it?
This kid is a hoot. I hope he achieved meme status back in the day.
I found Irisu to be incredibly self important and the amount of upset and mind games over the plot to a short film was immense.
Anyone who does not say Limit Cycle is wrong.
You have to google something a character said
It tries to be smart even though it isn't and the creators have no idea that they're doing that, so they're going deeper and deeper into embarrassing territory, even though the signs were already there early on.
Where the dialogue being used feels hamfisted and and trying to force insightful meaning where their is either none or in a clumsy manner.
That's what it means to me and especially in this example.
Elfen Lied most definitely. The standard light novel trash that infests anime these days also likes to go pretentious as fuck, usually towards the end of its running time, accompanied by embarrassing tone shifts.
>light novel trash
You mean this?
>Pretentious: attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed.
Literally anything from Kyoani. It's generic SOL schoolshit that is desperately pretending it's anything but that.
As opposed to everything else. For some reason light novels often share stupid narrative conventions, like those awkward tone shifts, oh so quirky dialogue (that's ironically dull as fuck most of the time), or masking their obvious wish fulfillment shit behind didactic pretenses or sudden melodrama. Sure, you occasionally have your Guilty Crowns and whatnot, but I'm pretty sure that these are just trying to forcefully mimic the conventions.
Depends. Chuuni and KnK were pretentious as fuck with their drama and lame """insight""" into the characters. But what do the more modest SoL shows pretend to be? Do you interpret the visual direction as pretending to look like movies with the fake camera effects or something?
I agree that Ergo Proxy was pretentious as hell, but I still liked it a whole lot more than Bakemonogatari. The setting and concepts were more interesting.
Define pretentious, in your own words, then defend your claims.
Most of these "so-called pretentious" works really aren't. I won't claim that you didn't get them because you can get something and not dig it, but support your claims.
I've seen a handful of works that I'd call pretentious and they were all documentaries.
Stilted is a much better word to use for nearly every thing mentioned in this thread. Preachy, even.
Name five shows more pretentious than those. If you'll mention anything like Eva, Utena, Lain, Angel's Egg or Kaiba than just don't respond and pretend you left the thread. No need to come off as an edgy, entry-level contrarian.
I actually agree with this. It felt like watching someone read a philosophy 101 book and try to come up with hamfisted examples of the ideas he just read about. The fact that it repeats some "smart" lines with a dumb fucking screen that stays for a few seconds while the line is repeated made me fucking furious. I understood the fucking line the first time, and it wasn't clever then, either.
>people list shows that just try to be original
>people list deconstructions
>people list anything where plot information is withheld
>people list shows with abstract imagery
>nobody actually lists shows that ham-handedly try to create a sense of profundity while actually being childishly simple or pointless
It would honestly just be better for the human race if everyone forgot the word existed.
Shitting all over various worldviews because muh moral responsibility almost made me drop it.
Never saw anything more pretentious and hypocritical. The show was at its worst whenever cat showed up, she didnt deserve that shit.
How much they shat on best girl was also stupid.
Snake didnt deserve that shit. even more pretentious coming from a blonde lolibaba vampire.
Psycho-Pass and Terror in Resonance.
Psycho-Pass was worse than Ergo Proxy with the philosophical rambling that amounted to nothing.
Resonance was all style no substance.
It's hard to choose between monologari, EP and EVA.
Yeah, they're just shit.
holy shit. Posts like this are why it's so important that we get lead paint out of houses.
>Chuuni and KnK
These are actually the best answers in the thread. Shows like these and Kokoro Connect, Toradora, etc. are a million times more pretentious than shows like Penguindrum, Evangelion, etc.
Most of Genius Party was like that though, I don't know why this one gets the brunt of it. Pretty sure I only liked Watanabe's. Haven't seen beyond outside of Wanwa which I also didn't care for.
Anything that takes itself seriously wothout even a dab of humor is fairly pretentious
Could you imagine if Trigun was as humorless as AoT?
>all of these people saying monogatari series
Don't get me wrong, I don't really think that highly of it, but what made it pretentious? Rarely talking about philosophy? I don't really remember it being anything more than a harem in disguise.
It was the reverse for me - I thought it looked like shit at first, and then it grew on me.
What, so time-travel is now pretentious? Because that's basically all the Tokyo Jupiter is.
No, Jupiter itself is fucking pretentious.
Just look at it.
Fucking smarmy bastard smugly staring back at you with that eye like he could fuck your shit up on a whim.
Jupiter and all its avatars are pretentious assholes.
For the record I don't even believe any of the shit I listed was pretentious, just wanted to counter-shitpost that anon.
I'm also >>141133376
Too many. Nearly everytime anime wants to be deep or complex they do it so haphazardly that it ends up just being vapid nonsense. Gatchaman is a good example, though i didnt watch s2