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What is the appeal of this series?

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What is the appeal of this series?
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The mystery, the actual plot is a bit subtle, Kyon narrating everything.
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>>141057280
Nostalgia. I mean I used to love the hell out of the show, it was in my top 3, but now it's just unbearable to watch.
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You're supposed to self-insert as Kyon and pretend you weren't a friendless loser in high school.
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Haruhi is fucking hot
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>>141057280
It's a good example of what anime is.
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Haruhi is cute.
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>>141058612
Trash? Regrettable? A mistake?
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Well written mix of scifi, mystery and slice-of-life with a unique premise. As for the anime, Kyoani's excellent production and great seiyuu cast.
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>>141058613
A CUTE!

nagato a cuter
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>>141058613
Yeah, that's pretty much the only reason people care anymore.
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>>141058613
This
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>>141057280
I know I'm in a minority here, but personally I really, really liked the later books. I was under age when the show was airing and knew little about it, so no nostalgia goggles here. So either it's actually just a good series, or my standards are low.
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>>141057280
The batshit crazy narrative risks with the nonlinear episode order and the endless eight. The story itself is boring as hell but it's told in an interesting way.
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None, all the people who like it are plebs who feel for the viral marketing.
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I would assume the girl, but I haven't watched it yet so who knows.
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mc's narration and the movie
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Plot, Kyon, characters, music, and everything
Kyoani was too great
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I still enjoy it because the plot was a pretty good example of something new and mysterious without going slasher like another, umineko, and some other one with vampires taking over a village
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>>141057280

>What is the appeal of this series?

The science fiction. I'm dead serious about this.
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why does haruhi sometimes look like she has downs syndrome?
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>>141063300
Agreed.

If you've never spent hours thinking about the Haruhi universe's metaphysics then you're a pleb desu
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>>141057280
it makes pseudo intellectuals feel smart
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kyon is a cool dude , i liked him. best part of it all for me personally was the shitstorm about the endless eight. i feel bad for people that weren't there when it happened. that shit was hilarious.
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>>141061948
>I know I'm in a minority here, but personally I really, really liked the later books.
I believe the consensus opinion is that the later books were indeed better.
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After haruhi, Japanese anime has changed a lot
The words "moe" was started to known to many people
Many sf or cgdct anime appeared,but no one couldn't make better than haruhi
Many characters started to dance in the ed
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>>141061948
>>141063589

Surprise was a disappointment though. A lot of buildup for a very weak payoff.
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>>141063891
We still got college Haruhi, the gift and lots of character development for pretty much everyone. Also, the two timelines mixing together with everyone arriving on scene and Koizumi going ham on that asshole was goat.. The payoff would be more than enough if the series didn't stop right after that
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>>141064005

>The payoff would be more than enough if the series didn't stop right after that

Yeah I can agree with you there, but it did stop.
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>>141064063
That's why the wait for LN12 is frustrating. Maybe this year will be the good one.
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>>141063738
you know now that i think about it after that show was around the time when anime started getting really shitty with maybe one gem every season
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>>141064093
2007 was best year doe
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It simultaneously mocks and celebrates anime tropes while telling a fun story with two endearing lead characters and excellent cinematography
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It's the cartesian question of our perception of reality. All things need evidence and in a world where all of your perceptions may be imposed on you by some higher power, what can you consider true and false? Kyon struggles with this dilemma, and must re-analyze his world from this perspective. It's like Descartes philosophy, but with more waifus.
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>>141064257
a reminder that comedy based on meta humor isnt really funny and its pretentious as fuck. basically the entertainment equivalent to a fedora vapefag
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>>141064365
Good thing it's not then. Tropes are an actual plot point, not comedy.
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>>141064436
t. fedora lord
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>>141064529
you got me
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>>141064365
>a reminder that comedy based on meta humor isnt really funny
All humour is meta.
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>>141064621
I do not think you know what meta humor means anon.
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>>141064669
Meta-humor is making jokes about jokes. Existence is a joke.
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>>141064752
Further proof that meta humor is for fedora lords.
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>>141057280
>>141057834

This was the appeal for me
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>>141064942
Meta humor would mean stuff like Lucky Star references
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>>141064974
Which is fucking stupid. If you can't make a show funny based on its own merits then it is shit.

>fuck actual story and comedy, lets just throw in throw backs to shows from a decade ago XD because our consumers are dumb enough to eat it up and we don't have to put any actual effort into it
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>>141065058
References were the weakest part of Lucky Star. There were none in Haruhi though, except for that Gundam line iirc.
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I've heard the watching order is fucky for this show, what's the right way to watch for the firs titme?
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>>141065058
The only problem with references is that people like you sperg out when you detect one that you don't get. Human beings make pop culture references all the time.
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>>141065120
Watch it the same order it aired on tv.
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>>141065120
It doesn't matter, best part is the movie anyway
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Consensus: it's trash but the main girl is cute

No one needs to watch it ever again
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>>141065208
Adding consensus before your post wont make it any more true, anon.
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>>141065189
>movie is the best part
actually end ur life
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>>141057280
My dick.
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>>141065120
Broadcast.
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Endless 8
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>>141065208
I used to think the show was trash but I went back and rewatched it and realized it blows most anime out of the water. It's actually really good and I can see why I loved it as much as I did the first time I watched it and why it was as popular as it was. The movie is absolutely fantastic as well and is actually in my top three anime movies ever.
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>>141065174
>>141065189
>>141065324
broadcast it is, thanks
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>>141065189
That chart makes this a whole lot more interesting now.
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>>141065621
Made for consensual handholding followed by gently being walked home
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HOLY SHIT MAKE FUCKING NEW SEASON FOR THE LOVE OF MUHAMMAD THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH
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>>141066046
Haruhi As-salam
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>>141066046

Reminder that for that to realistic happen we need a new fucking novel.
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Manic pixie girl
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>>141066577
>tumblr girl: the anime

basically, yeah
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>>141057280
the part when Asakura attacked Kyon the first time is when it gained my interest, before that I thought it was just boring generic shit, which it would be by today's standards
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>>141068896
>which it would be by today's standards
Oh look, it's the stupid "it aged poorly" meme.
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>>141057280
There isn't, dropped it after watching 3 episodes, couldn't stand that little shit Haruhi
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>>141069025
it aged terribly
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>>141069073
If you think that, then you just think it was always terrible. Conventions of anime haven't changed that much in a decade.
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>>141069119
all of the knockoff shows that tried to imitate it are part of the reason it would be less well received today
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>>141069242
Those shows wouldn't even exist were it not for Haruhi's popularity.
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What would you want to see be in the next LN if it's ever made?
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>>141069745
More development for the Anti SOS Brigade. We barely got to know them in dissociation and surprise.
Also more Sasaki.
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Related to the general demographic, and interesting plot consistently developing the storyline.
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>>141057280
It was unique and different when if first came out. Not so much anymore.
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>>141065099
Objection!
There was a Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney reference in the island episode.
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>>141070568
And that episode is better than the fucking anime.
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>>141071206
Those were my exact thoughts watching that episode. ;_;
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>>141069745

I want for the series to get closer to conclusion and possibly Haruhi starting to get some hints of the fuckery that is going on around her.

I swear for years I thought that "Surprise" was going to be Haruhi's surprise to the actual real world but it left me hanging.
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>>141059091
Just like you.
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>>141072330
She can feel these things, but keeps it on a subconscious level (i.e. Yasumi). She's not going to learn about everything before the story ends because she just doesn't want that, which shows how much she has changed
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It was a pretentious mess, but it was bold and unapologetic about it, which is at least refreshing.

Shame about the pointless anachronism (i.e. over half of it) and the endless eight though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_KGR9G1cxw
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>>141057280
Poor man's Kumiko
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>>141057280
Sugita
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Kyon
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>>141058613
Pretty much this, I mean the show is nice but this ensures lasting appeal
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>>141057280
the original broadcast order.
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>>141057280
Full-on rimjob, no questions asked.
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>>141069062
oh so you got filtered out. harahui is supposed to be initially annoying.
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>>141065189
>wanting to skip E8 is understandable
What the fuck am I reading
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>>141065621
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>>141057280
Being the most overrated anime
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>>141075441
You mean that people like it and you don't?
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/a/'s first meme anime
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What are examples of shows that tried to imitate haruhi? Genuinely curious
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>>141057280
The movie
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Haruhi is horribly overrated. It's nothing more than a generic high school SOL that happened to have some CRAZY time travel thrown in.

Without the Endless 8 shenanigans, Haruhi would've been regarded as seasonal trash. If Haruhi aired today, it would've been forgotten in six months.
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>>141075461
Yes, like SAO
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>>141075569
Yeah I don't like that one too.
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Pic related reminded me of Haruhi while I watched it just now.
Wish we had more straight forward female leads like them.
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>>141075548
nice meme.
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>>141075514
A good recent example is Charlotte. It doesn't completely imitate Haruhi, but it consisted of very similar attributes such as the eccentric female lead, the usual routine in finding adventure and new things (in this case for the sake of finding other people with supernatural feats), and so on.
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>>141075548
Any reasonable critique of Haruhi must take the cultural milieu into account. You might think the show is "overated" because it is "generic," but the fact is it is generic precisely because of its influence on the genre. Everything from the animation style, the clubroom-for-a-fake-club setting, the SoL structure in a story filled with exciting sci-fi adventures... all these things no longer seem special when viewed alongside subsequent anime that feature them.

Neon Genesis Evangelion is often accused of being "overrated" for the same reason, i.e. "it is *just* a show about fourteen year old schoolkids piloting cool robots to save their city.
No one is saying Haruhi or NGE are flawless, but unless you take their genealogy into account - what came before them and what came after them - seminal shows will always seem "overrated."
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>>141058613
I cry everytime.
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>>141064005
>the two timelines mixing together with everyone arriving on scene and Koizumi going ham on that asshole was goat
>we will never see this scene animated
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>>141057280
Haruhi's brash and demanding personality. It's gravitating.
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>>141057280
alpha female
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>>141076646
>>141077039
I hate to admit it but this is probably why I was so fascinated with the character when I was younger. I don't generally like dominate women more than submissive but Haruhi is the huge exception.
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>>141057280
Aya Hirano
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The story is interesting and THE PLOT
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>>141079527
Oh the PLOT is nice alright
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>>141065621
Best girl.
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>>141071206
There's a version of the scene with AA music over it and it's absolutely perfect. How did they do it better than the real one?
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THE PLOT?
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>>141080400
And backstory
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>>141080440
Show me more of this backstory.
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>>141080579
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>>141080711
I must admit, she does have an interesting backstory.
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>>141071206
Latest episode was actually decent, though.

>>141080023
I think anime tries not to overuse sprites to make it clear than anime =/= games. They even use different sounds effect when there's really no need to and fans would've appreciated fanservice. Basically, anime is full of shit.
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>>141080732
It's woven tightly with the plot
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>>141057280
Literally nothing.
It's made for people with shittaste.
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>>141080767
Isn't that Lucky Star?
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>>141080759
You aren't wrong. Her plot and backstory both play on each other well.
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>>141075611
Pai Pai has Haruhi's VA.
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Just realized something while reading LN.
Haruhi with her maniacal attitude, endless energy, and "I can't afford to lose" mentality, is basically Miles Naismith Vorkosigan who happens to be one of my favorite lit characters in a skirt.
And this gives interesting perspective on her character, because from Mad Miles' point of view, most of his crazy ventures were kinda rational or at least rationalized pretty good.
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>>141080767
isn't that your favorite anime?
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>>141057280
Haruhi does make good point about life and shit that why the anime has a great appeal
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>>141063589
Im still here for more Sasaki tho.
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>>141070193
Rainy day wasnt enough, nor the spinoff of nagato yuki-chan. Hope that if theres is a S3, there will be Sasaki in it.
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>>141074641
Kyon, you bastard.
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>>141076411
Why keep living then...
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What I love about Haruhi is that on the surface, it looks like a standard SoL with random supernatural elements. If you look further, its actually about how Haruhi goes from a megabitch and closed off to everyone to opening up more and finding the fun in normal life.
The mystery is also built up beautifully with a 10/10 climax that is completely lost if you watch it in chronological order.
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>arbitrarily out-of-order during broadcast to build up completely unnecessary suspense and mystery
absolutely dumb
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>>141082489
>Building up to a satisfying and cathartic conclusion is "unnecessary."
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>>141082539
>needing to play a show out of order to build up to a satisfying conclusion
sounds like a shit show
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>>141082560
Sounds like they adapted something from a different medium and had to shuffle some stuff around to make it work.
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>>141057280
The first season and the movie were better than the LNs. It was comfy. Good VAs. There was eye candy for every demographic on /a/. It also aired as /a/'s population was ballooning and appealed at the time to almost everyone.
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>>141057280

Pretending you were on /a/ when it aired
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>>141057834
This, Kyon, and best girl Yuki.
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>>141083806
Sometimes I forget that Mikuru is supposed to be a year older
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>>141080958
The Vorkosigan series is incredibly pretentious, and he's much more self-aware and self-depricating than she is.
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>>141083900
Hey, I was here for the movie's ripcam.
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>>141083900
>not being on /a/ for Geass Sundays
>not being on /a/ at the beginning of the eternal summer
>not being on /a/ when half the population was tripfagging and what are now reddit-tier memes were the essence of 4chins
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>>141057280
>Goddess smiling at (You)
>still asks what's the appeal
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>>141084171
>>>/LJ/

I want to bring this back
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>>141084041

To be fair, we see Kyon's POV, which is like reading all of the Vorkosigan series from Ivan's mindset.
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>>141057280

The thought of dicking a fine piece of ass that would rewrite the universe for you.
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femdom fetish
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>>141083806
>tfw my dad walked in on me when i opened this pic
TH-THANKS /a/
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>>141088234
At least he won't think that you're gay
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQKWJ3DUEGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVkGhpslLi8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5ntD0oLelY
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWB01IuMvzA
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>>141088234
Has your dad never heard of Playboy?
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Why do I want to hump her so bad?
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>>141080400
I always thought that was a homage to the deleted scene from Gunbuster.
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>>141088953
Gee I dunno
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Is Haruhi objectively the best waifu?

>attractive
>literally god
>will rewrite the entire universe for you
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>>141084041
>pretentious
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>>141088711
>dad glances at pic
>"at least it's not lucky star again"
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>>141091232
It would have been the opposite back in 2007
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>>141057280
yare yare daze
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>>141089813
>arrogant
>bossy
>will do stupid god things that will endanger your very existance

Yes. Yes she is.
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>>141092482
Sounds about right.
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>>141057280
Kyon is a based mc and not a fucking pussy like literally every other anime mc

also Haruhi is cute and so is every other girl
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>>141093270
Cute and ridiculously fine.
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>>141057280
hype hype and more hype
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>>141063300
this. though the show does fuck up some shit like the anthropic principle(or it may be that the character had no idea what he was talking about)

but it is obvious that Koizumi has the best model when it comes to haruhi, for nagoto's uses ambiguous terminology, and asahina's is unfalsifiable.
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>>141057280
The first 6 episodes are excellent
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>>141057280

It is fun
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>>141083939
Good taste anon
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>>141057280
I rewatch the scene where kyon meets haruhi in disappearance at least once a month
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>>141096350
Yay I'm not the only one
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It is not too cringeworthy for a high school setting anime.
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>>141096408
Never saved this one because of that weird bulge
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>>141096496

Nothing weird about a trap anon, it's perfectly normal.
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>>141095797
The way Kyon's understanding of time travel develops is rather spectacular.
Kyon knows that he will need to go back to the Disappearance world with the Asahinas-san in order for the ending to make sense, and he gets paranoid about not having a chance to do so. Then he wraps his head around the concept of predetermined events being inviolable, and realizes that as long as Haruhi doesn't observe any obvious time paradoxes, everything will be daijoubu. Then he realizes that big Asahina-san's existence proves that Haruhi doesn't fuck up the world too badly, and he becomes almost cocky about the whole thing.
Then that model starts to break down, and shit gets really crazy.
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>>141083939
You spelled Haruhi wrong
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>>141095797
What was wrong with Koizumi's take on the anthropic principle? I suppose he could have specified that he was talking about the strong formulation.
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>>141057280

The girls. Everyone who says its the story or plot is a lying shit. Just skip it if you haven't already.
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>>141057280
She's the second best girl ever (Neptune is the first).
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>>141098423
But I liked the boys too.
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