Alright lads. Game plan.
How do we get Tenga to successfully wing Chidori?
Regardless I'm expecting some hilarity.
>yfw, Kacchon is the big guy all along.
Regardless, still the same Okadashit again.
Tenga x Chidori is entirely probable,
>he spew romance novel tier advice to her
>the advice she cultivated from him, she exert unto Katsuhira
>he perceive her exertions as "if it were anybody else, they'll do the same" type reasoning
>Tenga fumes and erupt at him explaining to him all the reasons why Chidori like him whilst Chidori is evasedropping
>her heart go doki doki for Tenga as he continue to yell at Katsuhira "Yeah, she's an idiot but at least she isn't dense like you, she's determine and never give up!"
>her face is beet red and she yell "Stop!" while running off
>Katsuhira: Chidori were here the entire time?
>Tenga: Aren't you going to chase after her!?
>Katsuhira wear his usual mien and don't respond
>Tenga click his tongue "tch" and run after Chidori to ameliorate her and they have a deep conversation where Chidori confess she may like Tenga too
Jesus fuck, she's wasted on Kaz.
I'd never let go of her, so bloody sweet.
Chidori will never look at you like this. Ever.
>lets pair all fo them together in the end to create 4 pairs
Okada is truly a master in writing in this work.
At least Wixoss had incest and also yuri psycho happening.
Nah sorry, while I like childhood friend romance especially between the close type, the two redheads are both actually likeable and have chemistry so I'm pulling for them. The MC is an emotionless loser and the blue hair is boring too, so they can learn to "feel" together or whatever.
Hope we see those two interact on a deeper level.
Like, they stop fucking around for a second and talk to each other like normal fucking human beings.
For Nico it was already confirmed that she's not actually dumb, and same can be said for Hisomu since it's very clear he's hiding something about Katsuhira and will have a bigger role in the series at some point.
No official source confirmed that, but on Kiznaiver's official site there are only 6 volumes with 2 episodes/volume.
So far, it looks 1 cour but we'll surely be kept in the dark until the end of the season
Really glad there's so much love for this girl on Pixiv
Oh I see where this shit is heading.
Tenga is gonna help her and slowly develop feelings for her.
Sonozaki will also develop feelings for him and we go from there.
>tfw not sure if I prefer Groose with the headcase qt or with his fellow redhead
Help me this is the most conflicted I've been in a long time. I love my boy Musclehead-kun
We know she pretends to be eccentric because her parents mapped her life out. Nothing more needs to be said about her. Continue being cute and weird and the character will be loved.
I swear to god if she becomes normalized at the end of the anime.....
I'm not talking about a complete change of character.
I'm talking about more chances to see who she actually is when she's not pretending to be mentally retarded.
I want Honoka to coldly insult me and maybe step on my balls a little bit for making a comment about her massive tits.
meanwhile, in another room, a man shouts in pleasure at the sudden onset of erotical pain in his groin.
Anon, you don't get the fucking point.
I like her wacky self, but since it's been hinted she's not actually like that, I would ALSO like to see a little bit of her normal self.
Oh I perfectly get it but I have to ask why. Why would you want to see her normal? What appeal is there to that when the character ran away from normality and chose to become a character?
Because you autistic fuck real people put up walls so they don't have to deal with parts of their life, memories, and personality. It's interesting to everyone who doesn't have severe mental retardation to find out why a character they like has done this, and what they would be like if they stopped doing it.
It isn't that I find her normal self boring but rather want to see her acting normal and interact with teh group. That is it. Honestly Nico was probably a sweet girl who was having an identity crisis. Seeing a drastic contrast from her usual self would be refreshing.
It is clear that you have severe social issues and or are completely autistic.
Stop posting if you can't understand why people want to see characters develop in a story-based medium.
Most likely we'll only get 2 couples, someone is gonna die and someone else will be cucked.
I think it will be Sonozaki, actually.
She will die in the very emotional finale, cutting Kacchon's ties with the kiznaiver project and making him go back to his former self and Chidori.
The others will most likely go back to normal too, but will still stay friends after all this wacky adventure.
Just how the arrival of Sonozaki meant the start of the kizna project, her death will mean its end.
I doubt anyone will die. All the action and "violence" we've seen so far on the show has been for comic effect. The themes might get deeper and I think that the Okada patented suffering is going to kick off soon enough but the show'll never get as dark as Wixoss or even KlK.
Honestly I find it hard to determine what this show is since we've only had hints here and there about the plot.
It surely feels comedic, but I think there's more and someone dying towards the end isn't that unlikely, even though it's written by Okada.
I still don't want anyone to die, I love the cast ;_;
I feel you, anon.
This is obviously just speculation on my part, but maybe the big twist will be that the real Sonozaki, the girl from the flashback, really did die back then and the one we know now is an android replica. It'd make sense to me considering how she seems to be one of the company mascots.
Alright, done some looking around, and the hymen, while indirectly derived from a tissue that males do end up having, doesn't have a straight up equivalent.
This leaves three possibilities:
a) The boys lack an equivalent body part, and do not suffer any pain
b) The boys suffer from phantom pain, since they lack the appropriate bodily part
c) The pain is traced back to the common point and they suffer from pain on the inside of their dicks.
pairing wars is one of my favorite things in anime
Ah, I am aware of Okada's modus operandi, I said probable because Kobayashi maybe told her otherwise and at best Kiznaiver'll end with a open-end type conclusion. Although it is blatant who'll end with whom.
I hope she's got ear pro.
Tinnitus isn't funny.
I don't know.
Niko x Hisomu is an alright pairing in my eyes, I think their personalities aren't adversarial to the core of who they are.
And, they likely can see through each others visage, Hisomu and Niko'll get paired together and it'll lead for them to have a deeper understanding of the other.
The same goes for the others, I think that is why some of the pairings seem so mismatched. Aside from the two autists.
Poor childhood friend
But the childhood friend will win
Yuta has been trying to get in her pants since episode 1.
If she does end up bonding with someone it will be him, since their personalities are kinda similar.
Due to his insecurity, that's the only way he knows how to interact with girls. Getting shot down gives him a chance to learn how to get along with a girl without manipulation.
Does this shows premise annoy anyone else?
The characters (apart from mister autismo) should really, really fucking dislike the esdeath rip off. Its an imposition they are taking really goddamn well considering it could very well kill them all. They aren't really reacting like their characters probably would or should in this situation
Isn't there a rule in anime that if a boy likes a girl even if she initially doesn't he will get her in the end cause he is a boy and his feelings are more important so the girl won't have a choice but to pair with him?
Something about showing otaku boys who read and watch this stuff that being persistent pays off.
Similiar it doesn't matter that red haired girl likes MC-kun cause he only has eyes for another girl so she's destined to lose anyway.
Tenga has threatened her multiple times
Yuta is very upset by the situation and wants to ask her stuff every time she shows up
Maki cuts her off during the bus trip and directly tells her she wants information
Many characters refuse to cooperate rather often but she always has a way to oblige them to, also she usually disappears right after saying her shit
Most of the cast is really weirded out by what they're obliged into but don't really have much of a choice
I really enjoy the chemistry between Yuta and Maki, that and the fact they're the only ones asking the big questions.
Is this just another form of world domination or human instrumentality project in another guise?
Even that level of toleration is probably out of character. These peoples lives have been messed with to an absurd degree, they really should be freaking out.
Maybe if they showed them maybe talk about it I'd focus on it less. But as is I feel like they haven't addressed the elephant in the room.
They just adjust well to a new environment. Most people do. It's a sign of social and psychological damage if you can't. They all have problems and deficiencies but at the very least they aren't shut in weirdos, except for the one guy who did actually try to run from reality.
By now they've all realised this isn't the sole doing of the kuudere, especially with the exposition last episode explaining the basic idea behind the conspiracy forcing them into this.
My question to you is how do you think they should react? Hate her? They know it's not her fault and she clearly doesn't enjoy putting them through this.
I'm reading a fantasy novel where that exact thing happens - boy meets girl, girl hates boy, boy simply persists in being himself, they don't have any further interaction, girl falls madly in love with him to the point of desparation.
Shitty writing is not restricted to one medium. You either ignore your predictions and focus on the good elements of the show, or you get bored and frustrated waiting for everything to fall apart and end up hating everything.
They also know there's something sinister behind not only this, but Sugomori city itself, as it has been brought up in episode 4, so they might as well want to try and understand more of what's going on
Its not that I think the characters should all hate her. Its that I don't think they showed the characters actually thinking about the situation enough. They just kind of go with it. Only on the bus did we see just some of the thoughts that they really should be bringing up more. I just feel they haven't really established very well what the particular characters are actually feeling towards the situation, they are just following how they are reacting to each other.
>That's not for you to decide
Obviously I'm not the writer. But still, it's a problem with the writing that the characters aren't questioning the setting more. Its make it seem like the writers didn't give a fuck
You're too used to massive exposition dumps I think. There've been plenty of discussions about the impact of these events handled in character, like every scene with Tenga in Kacchon's home. Every time they have to deal with shared pain we get a bit more of a reaction from different characters.
Would you prefer they sit down and have a D&M about the implication of this on their lives? They're trying to live normally despite the impact this is having on them and for a teenager part of that is not treating it like it's a big issue.
I think you're missing or ignoring some of the more subtle interactions in the show. The whole reason this group was put together in the first place is because of their "Sins" which are all based around social problems.
Kacchon can't connect with anybody because he doesn't care enough to.
Tenga is too busy going after what he wants and threatening people (using them) to listen to what others want.
Honoka thinks everybody is beneath her and therefore not worth her time.
Yuta is too busy putting up a facade to tell the truth.
Nico is so afraid of being judged she doesn't let anybody get to know the real her.
The masochist is strangely enough the most open one because he doesn't care what anybody thinks of him.
Given that it's actually pretty reasonable that they'd wait a while getting to know each other and test the waters before opening themselves up and becoming extremely vulnerable to a group of strangers they can't trust, especially given the nature of their meeting Yoshiharu and for at least a little bit believing that one of them is playing for the other team getting hurt on purpose or actually controlling the scenario.
Not only that but they're hormonally driven teenagers who care more about social perception than their own safety. Just as we're starting to get to the arc where they're trusting each other and working as a team (after finding Yoshiharu) their biggest concern is who likes who, and trying to figure one another out still.
It's not out of character, you just need to look harder and be less judgemental.
We get it you don't like sonozaki. The rest of us are waiting till we actually know anything about her to make that call. We don't know anything about who she is or why she's been roped into doing all this.
The Kizuna Committee is evil, no?
I really hope the program fails spectacularly.
Where did that anon implied that? Take it easy.
Never doubt Okada, faggot.
The answers Sonozaki gave were informative for the audience to chew on gumption. And, that's the intention, in mysteries everything is told through nuances and with each passing chapter you form your own theories until the reveal. Everything is not revealed in a giant infodumb chapter.
Sure, Kiznaiver is a slow burner, yet the answers'll get revealed gradually.
Yeah, because I expect that Okada will bring something tragic that will make us feel bad for her and forgive her in the end, for example, she also is pain-inmune.
I don't buy that kind of character progression, that's all.
Good for you
Why is she still here? Just to suffer?
Daily reminder that we're 4 episodes in and we've gotten bingo twice already.
I will join you.
>implying autism-kun isn't better off with autism-chan
Oh wait! Three times! I forgot about the free space in the middle!
Never understood this bingo thing
It's normal that an author has recurring themes, and 25 are a fuckload of them
Tenga is poor and homeless
Official Autism Ranking
1. Katsuhira / Sonozaki
6. Chidori / Yuta
Katsuhira and Sonozaki: the couple of boredom
Chidori and Tenga: the couple of fun
Yoshiharu and Nico: the couple of batshit insane
Honoka and Yuta: the couple of smug
I think yuta's would have some esoteric ingredient like a rare melon from south east asia, to try and impress girls.
Hisomu's would probably be so cold it burns your mouth.
I think people hate her because of her resemblance to Nui.
She's the only non bland character in Kiznaiver.
I hope we'll see more of her on the next episode.
I think I already said it before in a previous thread(Though I think I used the term cookie-cutter then), but I just find it uninteresting to have an equal number of boys and girls there just so that they can get together in hetero ships. I'm not sure how to explain it but it's like, here's that typical thing that society wants us to do anyway that I've already seen in western animation and media in general. Wow, how interesting.
I dunno, maybe I'm just feeling cynical.(I mean, I do know that just about everything has been done in media already.)
Agata: Black sesame milk
Sonozaki: Ramune soda
Chidori: Berry bery soda
Tenga: Peach and grapefruit (juice, I presume)
Yuta: Green apple soda
Maki: Ice tea lemonade
Nico: Mixed juice (orange, mango, pineapple)
Hisomu: Purple vegetable mixed juice (vegetables + grape)
Trigger is better for trashy action shows, Okada for something heavy drama oriented.
Now it would be funny to see Okada and Trigger doing Wixoss 3rd season, Ruu in Trigger style would be godly.
There have already been enough of these kind of shots where each pairing are together that I'd be surprised if any of the come true. The way they frame them is so obvious that it's gotta be a red herring
More like Nico finds that Hisomu probably won't judge her, considering he's also pretty freaky-deaky. Not to mention, while they might not have known each other personally, Hisomu is a frequent visitor to Nico's family hospital which gives them another connection.
Hisomu isn't really outgoing though, Tenga would be the most outgoing guy of the group imo
Forgot about that. The dude must have some lowkey superpower
You forgot to add the fact the first thing Nico said about him when she saw him is how hot he looks
that's kinda mean anon, take it back please
Well, everyone thinks he's a bishie, though.
On that note, I wonder if Okada'll play out the fact that Nico and Hisomu trump Honoka and Yuta in intelligence and looks, respectively.
Purple has been around for 2 episodes and Yuta has been shown to be obsessed about how inferior he feels, not to mention the scene when he came to school, Maki mentioning it to him again during the trip, and other stuff
So yeah, the fact Yuta has an inferiority complex towards Hisomu is definitely canon.
Not totally sure about that Nico vs Maki intelligence thing isn't remotely hinted at, though.
I mean, we had plenty occasions in which Nico showed she's smart but not even once it was a direct competition with Maki
Sure. Niko and Hisomu are eccentric in their own regard and are indifferent to the other eccentricities it resonate as normal when they are together. I like during episode four where Niko showed Hisomu the beetle and he made it pinched his nostrils. Those two sure were casual with each other.
>Hisomu isn't really outgoing though
Doesn't pay much attention to others' judgements of his behaviour or personality, is completely open with people and accepting of them. That sounds like an outgoing personality to me.
>Tenga would be the most outgoing guy of the group imo
Disagree. He always takes the safe route whether it be shacking up with Katsuhira or expressing the popular opinion he's pretty much always doing what people expect of him.
>The dude must have some lowkey superpower
Either that or in typical anime fashion the socially dominant (in this case free from judgement) person has physical prowess over the submissive because it's a clear demonstration of the difference between them.
>You forgot to add the fact the first thing Nico said about him when she saw him is how hot he looks
Because that's the first thing all of them noticed, that despite being a shutin he's a handsome fella. It was more a surprised exclamation until she actually came to realise the kind of person he is.
>Not totally sure about that Nico vs Maki intelligence thing isn't remotely hinted at, though
Their intellect is debatable. Niko said the same regarding herself in episode two that she is smart and Maki surely is smart too. I'd say that Niko rank the highest in class and during exams, however, she probably never exemplify how smart she is and make herself score above-average grades.
>Doesn't pay much attention to others' judgements of his behaviour or personality
>is completely open with people and accepting of them.
He literally ran from the other 6 for an entire episodes, and believes "connections are not that easy to make".
An outgoing person actively and voluntarily pursues interaction with others. Hisomu surely isn't insecure about himself, but it's clear he isn't particularly sociable either.
>he's pretty much always doing what people expect of him.
What makes you think that? Tenga seems like the type of guy that is never afraid to voice his opinion, and he is very altruistic as well. I wouldn't say he always takes the safe route.
I agree on the rest though
Actually I think you missed the scene where she punches Katsuhira in the back of the head and Maki looks annoyed while saying "That's kinda intuitive". Combine that with the fact that she felt it necessary to point out her foundation when Nico realised the best way not to draw attention to the mark was to incorporate it into her style with a glove and at the same time not even mention it because talking about it just makes you conscious of it, combined with the fact that when they found Hisomu's appartment Maki's assumption are a projection of her own insecurity whereas Nico was the first one to notice his voice through the door and it's pretty obvious that she's smarter than her.
Those are all pretty valid points, i didn't notice many of those things
However, while the Yuta vs Hisomu thing is made very clear in the show, the Maki vs Nico thing is, so far, only implied.
>He literally ran from the other 6 for an entire episodes
Which he explained by saying that there were 6 people waiting for him outside his appartment whom he had never seen before. As soon as he realised they weren't out to hurt him, during his confrontation with Katsuhira on the bridge, he pretty much warmed to them as soon as he realised they weren't crazy. Sure it took Katsuhira jumping off the bridge, but that was because Katsuhira acted selflessly to carry out Tenga's ridiculous idea which came about through his own insecurity at not being the one to resolve the situation.
>What makes you think that?
Well apart from the point I just made about him always wanting to be seen as a man of action, I think it's also evident when Katsuhira shows insight into Hisomu outside his appartment and Tenga follows suit agreeing, which he does quite a lot when you think about it. He does it when they see the bus and Yuta is the first one to express disgust, and all he does is look like he agrees. Or when Katsuhira is the one doing most of the talking to Chidori when she brings them food and Tenga kind of falls in step when he realises she brought him food too. I'm not saying he's a doormat, just that he often waits for someone else to instigate the conversation and then follows up. He's not really the centre of the social circle, he just likes to appear that way, which I think is also why he dresses so flamboyantly.
To me that's a difference in their character as well as their portrayal. Yuta is shown as clearly insecure, with the poster being his big reveal, and Maki's being a joke reveal of having killed someone. The implication being that one is outwardly insecure and the other tries to hide it, even when it's known. She's even less sure of herself than the guy who is constantly trying to manipulate people because she's still at the stage of development in the same cycle where she resents those who have what she doesn't, where he can at least acknowledge that he has problems. Take as an example the bus stop scene where she fields the personal questions rather harshly and his response is more glib observation.
Is this fujo code for something?
>6 people waiting for him outside his appartment whom he had never seen before
Not really. He had already seen them through cameras at the start of episode 3, only after sonozaki asks what he thinks he joins them, probably because he is, for some unknown reason, interested in Kacchon.
He's a very mysterious character, I'd say theorizing about him at this point of the series is a bit pointless. However, I still wouldn't classify him as "outgoing".
He's surely confident and relaxed, but doesn't seem all that interested in getting to know new people.
He's portrayed as not particularly smart, but his personality is of a very outgoing person nonetheless.
You don't necessarily have to dominate the social scene or be the centre of attention to be an outgoing person.
>she fields the personal questions rather harshly and his response is more glib observation.
Definitely agree on this, Maki totally sounds like someone who's building walls and doesn't want to open to anyone, but if the author's intent was to show that Nico is smarter than her she'd have found a more direct way anyways.
I do agree on the fact both are portrayed as fairly smart girls, but I do not think they are placed in a confrontation, and neither of them is directly outshining the other so far, unlike Yuta and Hisomu.
I bet this bookslut takes it in the ass on a regular and calls it a "casual acquaintance". Easily the worst girl.
How did I ignore it?
He didn't escape because he didnt know them or feared they would have harmed him.
He already knew who they were, so the whole "he wanted friends but thought they were crazy" doesn't make much sense.
>Making Nico cry
OVER THE LINE
It's something really lonely and socially awkward people do when they invest in a character to the point of wishing they would act they way they themselves do. It's sad, but then we're a bunch of adult men discussing childrens' cartoons so beggars can't be choosers.
>Like, they stop fucking around for a second and talk to each other like normal fucking human beings.
It would be interesting really to see them bare their souls to one another, especially Hisomu who we know next to nothing about.
Apologize to Okada. She is smart, creative, and her stories are meaningful.
A whole city dedicated to some next level bullshit.
I feel like Tenga is gonna die like our old pal Kamina. Thoughts?
His death will be closer to Kittan's.
drawfags get on this
She's so perfect.
That angelic voice.
That amazing body.
That wonderful personality.
I love everything about her.
I like Noriko as she is right now, but I'm dreading the inevitable "she was just misguided and being used by evil mean adult scientists" backstory.
>yfw Trigger does another yuri "rape" scene with Noriko and the school councelor
>Shitty techno opening
>Horrible cast of characters
>Lacklustre mc who can't carry the show
>Animation drops considerably and we aren't even halfway through
>Terrible plot with even worse concept pushing the plot
A mediocre show that is only worth watching to see how terrible Okada can make this.
here's your (you)
>Shitty techno opening
More like OP of the season.
>Horrible cast of characters
I love the cast, they're great.
>Lacklustre mc who can't carry the show
He's as much the protagonist as anyone else, the show is driven by cast chemistry, which in my opinion is great.
No one has paired off yet? Predictability isn't inherently a negative either, I really dig the whole childhood crush thing.
>Animation drops considerably and we aren't even halfway through
Examples? It's remarkably consistent. Visuals are sweet through and through.
>Terrible plot with even worse concept pushing the plot
The concept is great, and it's a great fit for Okada's brand of drama.