Asspulls that don't suck.
every Jojo part has at least a little bit of asspull, but Araki is the king of making them seem awesome anyway because the asspulls are generally a lot more interesting than just "X person now can shoot even bigger energy beams"
Case in point: the kid in part 6 finding Weather Report's disc is definitely an asspull, but it was also super awesome.
I thought part 3 was a major asspull at first, but I later realized it was actually kind of foreshadowed by Joseph and Jonathan having the same stands, and the fact that Star Platinum was the only stand that didn't have a special power.
The real asspull was everyone suddenly being able to fly at the end
I thought that was the "asspull" or at least Jotaro's time stop lasting longer because he was angry.
that said I loved Jotaro tricking Dio into thinking he could then couldn't stop time with a magnet.
Also one of the best finals in anime history.
I think that the worst asspulls in JoJo in the old canon (haven't read SBR and JJL yet) were during Part 5. Giorno would come up with the most insane, retarded shit no one would ever think of (turning the rock with virus into a snake to get antidote for it later) yet it all works out every single time. God damnit fuck you Giorno how do you do it?
he's a crafty guy like his father, always trying to keep a cool head and wait for the others to survey the situation
i always found jolyne's computer picture made out of string to be even dumber than anything giorno had
I'm not sure if this is an asspull or not.
But not an asspull. It's not a random powerup pulled out of his ass, it's something netero had put in him from the beginning in case he failed.
Or would it count as well? I'm honestly not sure. The bomb's ridiculousness with how small it was might count considering the power of it and the poison after effect.
The villain has a power that, once somebody witnesses it, has total control control over their perception of reality.
That white haired kid was absolutely sure he had landed the killing blow on the villain, only to reveal to the kid that he had gravely wounded a close friend of his instead.
I don't recall if she survives or not but it's essentially weighted on him for the rest of the fight as the villain taunts him for making that mistake.
Idunno dude, "Fuck you, nuke" seems like a pretty huge asspull.
It was fucking perfectly done though, because of the fact that it WAS an asspull. Even a being such as Meruem, who's on a whole other level than even Netero, was hopeless in the face of a cheap dirty bomb invented by humans. Pretty hard reality check.
What he wrote is confusing, but it was supposed to be that it implies that it's possible Dio's ability is not to stop time, but rather the abillity to copy the Joestar's stands, which would make sense since Stands are metaphorical representations of the users, and "Usurpation of the Joestars" was pretty much the only thing in his head for as long as he could remember.
Yeah. I always associate "asspull" with "magical power up that wins the day for the good guy" but generally those don't have repercussions like the two HxH moments. Hell, nobody wins when Netero sets off the rose. I mean, I guess humanity does, but Netero and Meruem both end up losing that game.
Same with Gon and Pitou. Gon loses all of his potential and ability for a few minutes worth of a power up that he'll probably never reach in his lifetime again.
That's why I've got a hard time considering these "asspulls". They both beat the bad guy with something out of nowhere, but both are logically possible in the realm of HxH, and both don't lead to that victory that you'd see in other shonen. Like "the heart" in bleach.
Was never mentioned prior or alluded in anyway shape or form and just happens to get the character out of a terrible situation.
Josephs was and wasn't asspull because his entire character is based around asspulls, so an asspull from him is entirely fine and not out of ordinary.
Jotaro getting time stop could be connected to dio would be something that anyone with a brain thought of, but I believe araki said dios stand came from himself, not jonathan, that's an asspull
Does it gets a long-winded reply by a raging autist, with sentence like "you just don't get it" and "it was actually foreshadowed, you just had to be careful"?
If yes, it's an asspull.
Joseph rolled a natural 20 on birth, on top of being a Joestar. There's a reason he's the only Joestar that's lived so long, he was born OP.
I wouldn't call Jotaros time stop an asspull, though. It was established relatively early that each stand had it's own unique power (Less so with the earlier stands, but I blame that on Araki making it up as he went along). Up until then, Star Platinum had no power. Then suddenly The World is practically completely identical to Star Platinum, except it can stop time.
It was pretty clear at that point that DIO and Jotaros stands were in fact identical to each others.
Jotaros timestop is one of the least asspull-y things of Part 3. The only thing you need to "establish" that isn't already known/hinted at is that DIO and Jotaros stands are identical.
It was because he reached the pinnacle of evolution, so having a gender or sex is useless since they exist primarily for procreation. He's already perfect and immortal so he doesn't need children.
>We would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those meddling kids and their mountain of traps!
Joseph's severed hand stabbing Kars in the throat has the least to do with him being OP, it's just sheer dumb luck. And he didn't know that Kars would get smacked by volcano debris, either. Ergo, an asspull.
There was a TIP from the 3rd arc talking about that though, and how the mountain ended becoming forbidden because of the traps. Not really an asspull to use it again in the final arc.
it's a very convenient power that comes from nowhere and is adjusted perfectly for the type of situation character is struggling with
I don't consider Gon-san an asspull at all, it was foreshadowed basically from the beginning
unfortunately I didn't save that pic, maybe someone will post it. Not so much for the Netero nuke but that was fine too. The only asspull in HxH is Nanika.
Asspull by definition should suck so I'm thinking OP meant something like "Asspulls that aren't actually Asspulls"
OP here. The way Kars was defeated is the asspull to end all asspulls, but it's so glorious that you just can't be mad about it. So there you have it. An asspull can be good.
as far as JoJo goes I have absolutely no idea if that was an asspull or not because I haven't seen it. But there are a few examples of powers that are not asspulls and shouldn't be considered as ones
It is an asspull same way Final Getsuga Tensho is and every occurrence of the term is. It maks little sense for you o magically in a fight because you sacrificed your powers or future potential.
That in itself is extremely useful and convinient.
>Up until then, Star Platinum had no power.
Star Platinum had good eyesight and precise movements
Still, it was pretty obvious what the outcome of Jotaro's and DIO's fight would be when the similarity between their stands was first mentioned
Only with that much luck could a human being ever hope to defeat a vampire demigod by punching him into space with a volcano.