Sinbad is smart and cool and should win. If Alibaba asspulls because of muh protagonist I will be so mad. Everything he's done is correct and Alibaba is crying about it because his friend is a lil sad now. Get over yourself.
>something sound gritty and adult
How is he gritty? He's just twisting around retard shounen MC's logic like an actual person would in that situation. He's clearly more qualified and has thought things out more thoroughly than Alibaba and doesn't deserve some kid fresh outta a timeskip to ruin world peace by being a genki guy. How is that edgy?
Sinbad's obviously being a dick and may even be influenced by David but Alibaba really didn't think things through so I can't agree with what he's doing either.
There's a reason the leaders behind Kou's plan to take over the world were in exile and it's not just "because Hakuryuu wanted to be emperor so he exiled them." Bringing one of them back, empowering Kou, placing teleportation circles on almost every country that can transport people/materials en masse by a country that previously tried to conquer the world is just plain stupid.
I don't doubt Sinbad or Arba fanned the flames of the people's fears but holy shit Alibaba. Regardless of whether or not Kou has really turned over a new leaf, you have to give people time to get over the past. Expecting people to think the same way as you do and forgive Kou instantly is plain silly. But this is a shounen so his mentality will obviously be portrayed as the ideal even if it's bordering on naivety and detached from real world thinking.
Perhaps Baba's just gotten too used to be able to bullshit his way out of everything by manipulating people, and guess what, people actually bought his bullshits before Sinbad's dickmove.
It probably wasn't even Sinbad that fucked him it was this.
>twisting the words of your enemy and throwing them back at him
>smiling as Alibaba looks him in the eye even though he's fucking Alibaba over in secret using his position of authority
>all while keeping his name away from the mess by working through proxies/dummy leaders
I actually liked what happened though. Since the timeskip, we've seen the manga from Alibaba and friends perspectives so all we've seen are those sympathetic to Kou or those who believe in Alibaba. Now that the focus has switched to how the rest of the world sees Kou, it's a big shock. It makes so much sense that the people would still be wary of Kou but since all we've seen are those from Alibaba's side, it didn't really register until now.
The moment that Alibaba said that and we saw all those television screens, I think we all knew he was fucked. He wasn't aware of how those things worked and the effects his one little "harmless" comment can have.
Yes he does. It's just like how Falconia has to be built on baby-raping or something for us to justify Guts killing Griffith. Sinbad has fucking saved the world and Alibaba is going to asspull some twists where it's actually not really saved. Like the hogwarts arc.
3 years of economic depression for the loser of a global war isn't that fucking bad. Look at how long it took Germany to recover. Alibaba is completely destroying the balance of the world with his timeskip confidence and asspulls.
>yfw they edited out his 2nd line about hoping the world can prosper from the technology
>the news just keep repeating the fact that those circles can transport people (of Kou) instantly and in large numbers
>constantly fanning people's fears that the army of Kou can be anywhere at anytime once those teleportation circles get installed
>How is he gritty?
Psst, he's letting an entire fucking huge nation drown in his own misery again because it could become a competitor. And yes, "it's totally ok because I think its an adult thing and I fap to ADULT things, the world is an harsh place baby, fuck the entire population of kou, nothing personal Alibaba" is very edgy.
>an actual person would in that situation
Look, I don't like doing this, but since you are a kid, let me explain you something.
Actual GOOD adult people prioritize their own business to the point of the detriment of other people's business because it's necessary and/or because other people's business doesn't concern them in the slightest.
That's not Sinbad's case. At all. Since the end of the war, Sinbad main job was rebuilding the world balance, economic system, and advancing technology. Not Syndria's economic system, but the world's. So, yeah, it does concern him. He isn't a simple petty merchant like the fatty wine merchant, or a simple mediocre king like parthevia's king. After taking that role, Sinbad has much great responsabilities.
Now a misunderstaning cause by an understandable but still absolutely wrong bias is fucking up an entire enormous country and the world's economic and technological progress, but the only thing he's doing is prioritizing the business of a company which is already the undisputed real leader of the entire world economy.
He's a incredibly magnificent, cynical bastard, and a great villains, not an adult hero who is just doing adult things.
tl,tr real good adults (and especially statemen) know when it's not the time to prioritize their own business to the point of the detriment of other people's business (and that's especially true for the most important statesmen). No matter what your edgy young brain thinks.
>Alibaba is completely destroying the balance of the world with his timeskip confidence and asspulls.
What a nice fanfiction. I seriously wonder why some of you read a manga just to make shit up and rewrite it with your nonsensical fantasy.
>Baba still thought PapaBad would always lend him a hand or at least not sabotage his effort until then
Serve that naive idealist fucker right. 100 relative years after being fucked by Hakuryuu and he still hasn't learned shit.
I can just see it now.
>news excerpts of Alibaba's interview about how those teleportation circles can transport the people of Kou anywhere without obstacles
>immediately followed by commercials that are basically reminders of "Kou, their civil war and their global conquest" or a "historical documentary show" of Kou's world conquest and how Sinbad's SSA saved the world by stopping them
I'd honestly be impressed.
>How is magic teleporters and revitalizing Germany 3 years after WWII not upsetting the balance?
Because we aren't talking about germany Germany 3 years after WWII? Again, read the fucking manga instead of trying to rewrite it.
>Why do you come to these threads just to flame?
I come to these threads for a manga called Magi, not for your bad fanfictions.
Exactly. Sadly, that guy doesn't care about the manga at all, and will post something as unrelated as stupid again.
>Been diligently working on achieving your dream for 3 whole years with the groundwork laid in an entire spinoff manga.
>Some kid spends 6 months with a shota and has a timeskip power gain and thinks he can wreck that
Seriously, Ohtaka just needs to switch protagonists already. Obviously Sinbad probably considered Kou's state of affairs and already took into account the turbulent few years it would need to suffer in order to maintain post-war nonaggression.
>Not even the Dutch East India company was as bad as that.
Because we aren't talking about the Dutch East India?
See how ridiculous your posts are? We can't use fucking analogies anymore? Is all you want an image dump?
That was sarcastic retard. I set it up in the same way you did to mock you. Then I pointed it out directly as an example of what you were doing. Fucking hell man, you're embarrassing.
Not him but he's just comparing the fears that common people will have against a country that tried to conquer others. Acting without regards to the common people's perceptions is stupid as a businessman.
I think he's using the first post linked to show the absurdity of the 2nd post. If you thought "because we aren't talking about the dutch east india" part was stupid, then the second post linked should also appear as stupid.
>We can't use fucking analogies anymore?
Because totally different context? Because you are ignoring the manga to put in it what you like?
Stop being so fucking stupid.
> See how ridiculous your posts are?
That's very ironic, you are a genuine idiot.
>Does this guy even know what a fanfiction is?
Yeah, rewriting the manga and forcing what you want in it is an opinion/subjective view/theory.
But keep wrinting your fanfictions, you are basically as deluded as waifufags.
>I set it up in the same way you did to mock you.
Me and that guy are different anons, learn how to read you retard, I even quoted him. And yes, his analogy makes much more sense than your fanfictions. No anon, not all analogies are totally unrelated to the manga like your shitty fantasy.
> the fears
No, that's not what he's saying, reread all his fanfiction. The funny thing is that he still haven't explained how "Alibaba is completely destroying the balance of the world".
>No, that's not what he's saying, reread all his fanfiction. The funny thing is that he still haven't explained how "Alibaba is completely destroying the balance of the world".
From what he said and what you agreed with, you're both going off different meanings of balance. Correct me if this wasn't you but I think you agreed to the guy who said that it's unbalanced to have one monopoly. That's balance in one sense - different powers all existing together and not one force controlling everything.
The way he's using balance is different. The state of Sinbad's world now is balanced in the sense that the people are all living without threat of any war. That's what I think balance is for him and I can understand the sentiment. Empowering Kou throws the current situation into disarray because Kou's previous invasion is still fresh so it will cause fear in people. We assume the common people will react similarly to the fears of the real world so he brought up germany and what people's reactions to them would have been if they somehow had magic teleporters so soon after the world war.
Sinbad is right. How can you decline to give help to someone because you're rivals yet ask to be given help this time?
People who are butthurt with Sinbad are too juvenile and autistic to have any self-awareness or consistency.
>The state of Sinbad's world now is balanced in the sense that the people are all living without threat of any war.
It's not a matter of people's perception, Sinbad's new world order is founded on a real and concrete state of world peace, no slavery, a new a central role of trading, and innovative technology. These are the pillars od the balance.. People's perception is only a direct consequence of these concrete pillars.
How the can hell can Kou Company destroy them? Kou Company actually TOTALLY FITS in the new era.
>Empowering Kou throws the current situation into disarray because Kou's previous invasion is still fresh so it will cause fear in people
Same question: how can that bias destroy the pillars of the new world order?
The worst thing that can happen actually has already happened, nobody wants to make a deal with Kou because of people's perception. But that has nothing to do with destroying the world balance.
>Kou Company actually TOTALLY FITS in the new era.
Let's go over this part. The common people can not differentiate between the Kou of old and the new Kou that just wants to rebuild their country. Us readers do, Alibaba and friends do but the common people in the manga do not. This is why they were all panicking at the mention of Kou's teleporters that can transport Kou people en masse. Because to them, Kou still carries with them the threat of their previous invasion.
The 2 of us (and the guy you were arguing with) obviously give different importance to people's perceptions. You say that the stability of Sinbad's current world depends on the concrete pillars of world peace/no slavery/trading/tech and that people's perceptions are consequences of those. You're saying the world will remain stable regardless of people's perceptions because the structures at its core are still there. I can understand that.
I am of the opinion that people's perceptions are integral to it and what keeps it together, not just secondary. This is because people are irrational. The same core structure can be present but if people are all afraid then the structure will possibly break down. Like it or not, this irrationality is present and what is being portrayed by the exaggerated expressions that Ohtaka likes.
So from this, Alibaba is the one that makes sense for the readers since we know that the New Kou by Kougyoku is different from the old Kou. They fit in the new world.
In-universe however, fearing Kou is what makes "sense" for the common people and that irrational fear will cause the structure to break down. It's also that irrationality that Baba needs to solve.
I want to hate Sinbad but I can't, he has his trading company to take care of and Kou's rise would definitely throw a wrench in his plans.
Baba, once again, was naive, he refuses to see that Sinbad isn't his husbando anymore.
Here is what I don`t get. Shouldn`t Baba be at least popular in Balbadd? From the people point of view he is the monarch who fought against the king who was ruining the country then in front of the whole populace said the country should be a republic instead of a monarchy.
Even if he failed, he spent a lot of time trying to help the country and even fought a war because Kou had his country hostage.
The fact that he is the representative should at leats make some people support it, no?
Same guy here. I tried to wait for your reply for 30 mins but I think you're gone now. I'm off as well. Even though it started because of a fight between you and some guy, thanks for the discussion since it did give me some ideas of what other people think.
>There is no way of knowing if they will send goods or military troops.
How about just stationing some of your own troops right on top of them for good measure then?
Everyone say so but how he is supposed to fix it? It's not the matter of him saving the day out of nowhere but rather Kou empire showing everyone they don't want to fight with anyone. Aladdin is kinda useless here even with his god-like powers.
Its not like the teleportation circles are huge. You don't need a whole lot of military to defend something if you clearly have the field advantage. Just put troops around the perimeter of the circle and there is nothing any kind of army can do when coming through it.
I thought about it but would it even work? If Sinbad suddenly says that Aladdin is also a criminal just like Hakuryuu, his words will be useless too. People would believe someone more iffluental than a random guy on the broadcast. That's at least what I think.
Anon, I think you are giving too much importance to people's perception in this context. It's problematic for sure, but talking about "destroying the balance of the world" is inappropriate
Even looking at it as a context similar to a real life scenario (which is probably a wrong point of view), in case of a deal with Kou worst things that can happen are that some people who totally distrust their State's choices (because, let's not forget this, the State would be the guarantor, and with Sinbad's support the influence on people would be much, much stronger) would invest less because of the fear of a new war, while other people would straightly leave the country of the deal because of the fear of an invasion (bringing resorce in other countries,though, it's not like the resource would get lost).
Yeah, these are important cons, but they would alredy be compensated in the short-term by the ENORMOUS profit that would be done thought Kou's absolutely innovative technology. In the mid-term the profit would overtake the cost of the mass hysteria, in the long-term the mass paranoia would simply stop.
Hell, technically the State could limit the first transations to make people feel safer, also this >>139856313, and start some heavy propaganda to sell the new Fish empress as the a trusworthy reformer. Which, again, would be much easier with Sinbad's support.
But, anyway, let's not forget about the the real major loss. Having a freaking huge country like Kou in the new world system would have actually REINFORCE the whole world balance founded on trading on the mid and long term. That's why Sinbad is actually a shitty satesman and a petty businessman. He's still a great villain and one of my favourite character, though.
Again, it's not easy and all, but talking about "destroying the balance of the world" is inappropriate.
Yeah, I'm actually sorry for being late, it was a nice discussion, thank you, anon.
Even then, small countries like Magnostadt would wait, but the bigger countries like fucking Reim could do that. Even one state successfully trading with Kou could be enough to calm most people.
Problem is that literally nobody wants to try it. Funny thing is that in democracy it would actually be even harder, if not totally impossible.
SOLOMON EX WISDOM
I don't think so. As >>139856654 said, no one will believe a random kid especially if he is said to be a partner of wanted criminal in this world. Aladdin in my opinion can't do shit because it's not the matter of sudden power-ups or solomon's wisdom but rather choices and what Alibaba may do. I think only he can solve this problem alone, without Aladdin's help.
You can also just wall it up and maybe set archers on top of the wall. Honestly its so easy to deal with a possible invasion through the teleportation circles i doubt Kou would be stupid enough to try it.
>I think only he can solve this problem alone, without Aladdin's help.
The question, though, is how? What could he possibly do to remedy this situation when he's up against the most influential man in the world?
I don't know, I was just explaining my point about Aladdin being completely useless here. Alibaba has to think of any solution that won't damage Kou's reputation even more. But what it could be - I don't know.
I'm actually very scared by that. Every time time Ohtaka makes an interesting and original arc, the ending always oversimply everything, suddenly putting everything on shonen cliche track.
>here are plenty of examples in the real world who would want to trade with people who must be watched by an army.
Where? In Third World counties?
Not gonna work anon.
Well, you are reading a shounen manga so cliche shounen moments will appear anyway. She said we are heading towards the end of this mini arc, so in few chapters we should get things settled up already.
She is literally split buffbaba into two parts.
>every time time Ohtaka makes an interesting and original arc, the ending always oversimply everything
Now that you mention it that's true. I remember being underwhelmed by the resolution of the Balbadd arc. Notably the matter of Kou's currency bankrupting Balbadd.
I'm pretty sure his body moves at a much faster rate than other people can perceive. He used this ability to take out the sky pirates and some Kou guards.
He looks like completely different person, that's true. I wonder if he was behaving simmilar to his current self in concepts.
He already said his body slows when time slows. It only looks like he's instant transmissioning because his movements are so unexpectedly perfect to the people around him.
That's my point. His body may become heavier when he alters time, but that doesn't matter in regards to the perceptions of the people around him. Their brains still can't register his movements.
>Put weight limitations to the teleportation tool
>Make a handshake system for sending goods (they already have wireless communication systems, so it's not impossible)
>Put some safeguard devices outside the receiving end of the teleportation tool, like instant disrupt of incoming signals by destroying the tool
This shit is the easiest thing to solve ever
Wow what a fun chapter. Sin totally schooling baba in true babanomics. Wonder if baba will shrug it off and come up with a plan to spread rumours of how changed kou is.
>spread a rumor to undermine his Alibaba and Kou
>throw Alibaba's own words back at him as defense
Sinbad is such a smugger. I give him full points if he personally arranged for the rumor.
Of course. Nobody but sin can handle the FLOW of DESTINY
I hate him because he is a smug asshole who has won simply by the fates consistently favoring him. Now he holds all the cards, all the influence, and is being mixed with a douchey spirit which almost took over the world eons ago. What sense is there in rooting for a character so devoid of challenge and conflict. The story is just stagnating whenever Sinbad gets involved.
>What sense is there in rooting for a character so devoid of challenge and conflict.
So losers can self-insert as him. They can temporarily escape their shitty lives and imagine that they have all the bitches and the riches.
No, but it does two things:
1. Help Kou alleviate some of their money troubles by selling all the treasure that they find in the dungeon
2. Gives Baba a new Djinn, which he needs anyway to be able to fly around the world to look for Aladdin.
Not potent enough. Try Sin's instead.
AOS i reckon. fewer chapters get it out of the way
If the common people can't accept the new Kou then why not simply kill all of the common people?
If their cities are in ruins then they can't really stop you from trading with the people who kept their mouths shut.
Ants aren't beasts, anon, they are insects.
Thirsty fishfags, everybody. They yearn, and their fish poops on their faces.
Magic. Now they have a dimwit shounen hero who is also the strongest magi's best friend on their side. All Koumei needs to do is manipulate the dumb cactus to make Aladdin their bitch.
I meant having their own ships, though that does sound like an option. Then again, if entire countries aren't willing to place one trading center in their country, how many traders would be willing to risk their own?
I suppose they could always try naval ships. They had their own fleet, right? Then again, those travel slower, and might not have enough space - but international waters are technically free from control.
I wonder if we'll get a chapter of Kou trying to rearm after seeing their final hope extinguished. Maybe instead of the teleportation circles having a work around, there could be a work around using the food itself.
Traders are probably just as scared of Kou using transportation circles for invasions as any other normal people are. They'd possibly be even more cautious, since any invasions would be on their heads if Kou decided to commandeer their ships and use them as mobile points of entry.
Sinbad has a monopoly on airships, and so far Kou's transportation circles are the only thing in the world that could upset that. They are business rivals now.
They lost Balbad, and their other coast is, uh, far in the east isolated from other big countries. Not an option.
If only Koumei was researching airship technology instead.
Kou's naval road is even worse than the land road.
Koumei was a Kou asset, even if he was in exile. Sinbad agreed with Alibaba that Kou's problems should be solved with Kou resources, and Koumei counts as that.
Besides, Sinbad was the one who approached him about that, not the other way around.
No, it was the other way around. Sinbad called Alibaba.
But Alibaba didn't ask him for help regarding this matter. Sinbad actively tried to obstruct this action until Alibaba convinced him otherwise. Simply not trying to get in his way isn't helping him.
Rolling for anyone except for the lolis
>tfw they thought they killed their respective husbandos
No, you won't make me believe Hakuryu is actually into who.
O-Ohtaka just needs to create a misunderstanding where Alibaba will think so, and then it'll be over, a-am I right guys?
>Not Syndria's economic system, but the world's
It's not altruism. His primary concern is improving the economies of those who follow his rules through the proxy of his trading company and alliances. It isn't about making the world a better place; it was a ruse to takeover the world using new methods.
The guy is David so his plan has never really been prosperity. He set up a world where commerce = power, why would he want Kou back on its feet with tech that is inaccessible to him currently? That would completely fuck up his whole depraved plans. Kou's history gave him the perfect excuse, even though he knows it isn't a legitimate one, to keep Alibaba down.
I think that another part of David's keikaku will make use of that magical revolution that he has pushed forward. Magic items are so common now that the people are dependent on them completely.
When the time is right he'll deactivate or take control of all of the world's magical items and leave it defenseless in a state of chaos. No communications, transport, industry, etc.
If you add that he holds all of the djinn vessels and that all the world has focused on commerce instead of the military he'll be in a very advantageous position if he decides to use force.
Only Reim, Nippon Stronk and maybe Kou due to its isolation and backwardness would be able to oppose him.
honestly magi has become my current favorite manga. (to me its probably the best shonen in years)
I like where this arc is going.
Sin is clearly up to some evil shit. I dont know how alibaba will get out of this but fuck it will be interesting.... Though i do hope its not aladin shows up and fixes everything with a wave of his hand.
That page when they where getting denied the right to set up portals was fucking insane. You could feel the despair oozing out of the pages. I love this artist she does that look better than anyone I know.
Yes, if there's one thing Ohtaka loves, it's despair
honestly I never brows magi threads. I dont even brows manga threads period. but this chapter got me so hyped that i decided to pop in. So i guess i haven't adopted the spirit of this thread.
It's wired... like why do people call morg, who?
>So i guess i haven't adopted the spirit of this thread.
Save yourself and stay out. I don't want another enthusiastic fan to be poisoned by the cancerous autism of these threads.
Can someone just invent a gun and shoot Sinbad already? It would be so easy to just displace all of his brain cells before he has a chance to react.
dude it literally says who the translators are in the beginning of the chapter even on sites like mangafox.
You are lazy or retarded or both.
No wonder this board is going to shit.
Hmm i guess that's true. the last time i remember her having a moment to shine was in the wizard city arc where she comes out with the phoenix household vessal.
I think she is a qt though. But I think if kougyoku won the alibowl I'd be ok with it.
im really interested in seeing if alibaba is getting NTR'd or not.
Official list of people that have done nothing wrong:
1. Eternal Fuhrer Mogamett, Goi Bane
2. Grand Magi Arba, Restorer of Ill Ilah
3. King Ahbmad Saluja, Reformer and Bringer of Wealth
Actually a god so right or wrong doesn't even apply:
Pure tier so technically nothing wrong
-Haku and Judar
-Solomon the Defiler
I think that's Sheba
0 is Drakon's spider-waifu who Sinbad cucked away
Compelling argument, except David is the BBQ master.
>yfw that was when Aladdin started to call her Kougyoku-oneechan
>im really interested in seeing if alibaba is getting NTR'd or not.
I think Ohtaka is baiting with the Baba NTR, I mean, Mor said to Haku she realized he loved Baba not so many episodes ago.
But if this >>139872796 actually happens it would be hilarious.
Says right here that she fell in love with him.
There were discussions about the nuances of "ai" in some past threads, in short that's a very general kind of love. They usually use "koi" for these teenage loveshits instead.
Spoilers since someone was talking about starting the series
Judar was hit with an
unstoppable force in single-direction spell and sent of into space, right?
How the hell did he end up
on the other side of the world? with Baba-ghost?
Or was I misreading some parts due to retardation?
Reminder that Alibaba is a slumdog prince and does it for his hood and no one else.
Forget it. No one but Alibaba ever manages to roll fish.
Half of this thread is fucking roll posts.
This is sad.
Give me something that hasn't been used by Sinbad.
In this context the term fits into villains who wish to rule the world/galaxy/universe with an iron fist. So, he falls in the same category as the likes of Palpatine, Frieza, Dr Doom etc. Difference is he's been much more subtle with the motivation. And you don't have to kill people to be edgy, Madara was an edgy villain and I don't think he killed anyone.
First of all he not even a villain at this point. Second, he has yet to impose rules that make him a "ruler with an iron fist".
Also, Madara killed a lot of people.
>In this context the term fits
You forgot to define edgy
>First of all he not even a villain at this point.
I think it's pretty safe to say that he is. He's allied with Arba, he's connected to David, the connection is made through Ill Ilah, he wants to have absolute power, he is now being an obstacle for the hero to overcome. He's meeting a lot of criteria right now.
>Second, he has yet to impose rules that make him a "ruler with an iron fist".
He doesn't yet rule with an iron fist, but these laws he is making play into that plan. The abolition of metal vessels, for example, means no individual would be able to oppose him.
>Also, Madara killed a lot of people.
Oh yeah, I forgot about the Shinobi Alliance. My bad.
>You forgot to define edgy
Easy, a dark and eerie concept that is aimed to appeal to kids and teenagers.
Suffering Alibaba will be able to get fish.
It's more what he's doing than saying. Of course, it's just an assumption for now, but if Sinbad is indeed the one who spread the rumours first, then he's clearly in the wrong.
Nah, Sinbad did nothing wrong. Alibaba was the one who said Kou company and Sindria trading company were business rivals. Why should Sinbad go out of his way to help a rival? Alibaba burned that bridge.
Sinbad did nothing wrong.
>tfw too busy last week, missed thread
>arrive late at this thread
Also this chapter's art was excellent. Reminds me of the Hakuryuu-Alibaba confrontation page. You know the one.
>Sinbad twisting his words to stop him from doing it is wrong
It really isn't, Sinbad is just trying to protect his company, his methods were pretty low, but that's life I guess.
>over actual human lives
No one is dying, people already have plenty to eat and enough peace to chill as much as they want.
Sinbad just instigated fear in their hearts to cut Kou's plans short.
Yeah, they're just living in squalor at the mercy of marauding bandits with no hope of improving their lives. But it's fine because they're not starving to death. Stop being deliberately thick.
I love that empty look in Aladdin's eyes. I want to see him suffer more because it's unbearably adorable.
You will never protect his smile because it is already gone for good.
You guys are just as naive as Baba, it's completely insane for the whole world to accept Kou like that after those massive wars and slaving.
Sinbad has his responsibilities with his company and employees, not to mention that he would bring wealth and jobs to Kou before Baba appeared and decided to butt in.
You mean this? He mentions the world in this dialogue.
>it's completely insane for the whole world to accept Kou like that after those massive wars and slaving.
Yet it was doing just that before the rumours started spreading. They were about to make profit on their own until an external force decided to interfere.
>not to mention that he would bring wealth and jobs to Kou
And you call others naive?
>Totalitarian warmonger state with ethnic cleansing and slavery as state policies
>The world changes. Now power is in trade, not war and slavery is abolished
>Turns into a broken shithole
Just like Alibabafags there are Sinbadfags.
I'm not part of any conversation right now, but about that comment: I think every major characters in this series has their fanboys and haters in nigh-equal quantities. It's the story of these threads.
Most of Kou is made up of lands and peoples it subjugated, so yeah, poor Kou.
Not only did these people have to endure being conquered and stripped of their culture, but now Sinbad is turning a blind eye to their poverty and dangerous living conditions in order to protect his monopoly on airships.
I don't mind any of that but the Alibaba praise in these threads is ridiculous. It has gotten to the point that nobody talks about any character that isn't Alibaba or Alibaba possible love interest.
I think Alibaba gets both praise and hate quite often in these threads. No different from Sinbad, Hakuryuu or Aladdin; from what I've seen anyway.
I guess the difference is that he's been the main focus of the story since the time skip, so a lot of conversations will naturally revolve around him. It was the same for Hakuryuu during the Kou arc.
Ohtaka has a fetish for baba suffering because she knows it means sales. Baba is DESIGNED for suffering. First is foreveralone, then gets killed, then gets NTR'd, now gets his plan thrown back in his own face.
Fuck baba and fuck all shounen protags. They should suffer and fail because it's beautiful.
>Fuck baba and fuck all shounen protags
Yeah, fuck Sinbad.
>waifu roll chart exists
>no husbando roll
Pretty good point. I have a clear husbando, but fuck me if there aren't a thousand temptations.
You were talking about how you were the one who started conversation about Sinbad, despite there being discussion about him since the beginning of the thread, as you have already been told/ Do you even read your own fucking posts?
>wanted to take over every country in the world and declare himself emperor of everything
>then build shitty square wooded chink huts all over
>and turn everyone into slaves for Kou
He lost three limbs and that still isn't enough. Plus what he did to cute related. Put a fucking backdoor in his brain.
>Liking that edgy fucking faggot
>Not understanding that their slavery only lasts for up to five years
>Not understanding it was a means to peace and unite the world.
Kounen wanted to do it the real nigga way Sinbad did it the jew way.
Hakuryuu was a moron whose edgy brain couldn't comprehend Kouen not being the black-and-white figure he always imagined him to be. He just went to war because he assumed Kouen was this and that and was later proven dead wrong about him. Kouen a best, Crispy Sasuke a shit.
If five years as a slave is no big deal, why don't you come over here and be my slave for five years? It's "only" five years, anon.
>means to peace
Road to hell is paved with good intentions. How many innocent people's lives did kouen destroy?
Yeah, because his fucking mother was possessed by a witch and she killed his entire family and threatened his sister's life, which Kouen was complicit in. I'd be edgy, too.
Hakuryuu did NOTHING wrong. He even let that fuck kouen live on in a fish hut with the other rejects. Honorable AND merciful.
>which Kouen was complicit in.
No, he wasn't.
Also, Hakuryuu is the reason Kou is the shitheap it is today. Sold his own homeland to Sinbad like it was a whore just so he could win the throne. And when he couldn't even handle the job he killed thousands to get, he bailed and left Kougyoku to pick up the pieces. What a piece of worthless shit.
>He did nothing wrong
He brainwashed thousands upon thousands of people and injected mind altering plants into their head to make them berserks. Hakuryuu did nothing and They even mention they don't kill citizen if the town surrenders. Look at Alibaba's country when Kou owned it. Also Kounen was waiting for the right time to kill their mother you fucking faggot he wanted and planned because he didn't want to go full edge lord like Hakuryuu
Soldiers who were slaughtering innocent countries and burning villages, who served an evil usurper who wanted to enslave humanity?
Wow you're right, Hakuryuu using magic hypnosis was super evil by comparison to trying to destroy an entire continent.
He was the rightful sucessor to the throne and Kouen decided to oppose him because muh might makes right, all his siblings willingly followed.
All those extreme measures were cruel but necessary to stop Arba who was at the center of an ancient evil organization that literally wanted to destroy all life.
>Soliders who were loyal to the empire
>only following orders witch they didn't even fucking like
>heres an idea lets mind fuck them and put plants in their head
No kill yourself
>He was the rightful sucessor to the throne and Kouen decided to oppose him because muh might makes right, all his siblings willingly followed.
He decided to oppose him because he didn't trust him with a responsibility like ruling a country. Turns out he was right on the money.
I'm sure Ohtaka will tell us why he left. Eventually. In another few dozen chapters.
From a >>/g/ perspective, the only way to get people to adopt this is to open source the magic.
It would also reduce much of Sindra's monopoly on airships (as remarked by many characters).
You forgot the most awe-inspiringly gorgeous and beautiful angel in the whole series, the one who puts anyone from both sexes to shame.
>Kou and Kina have never been considered their allies from the beginning
>Kina is a small nation
>Probably doesn't have much land
>They probably have the greatest need to import food
>Completely missing from where they should be in the ocean
>The entire island is probably moving due to a metal vessel
Pretty sure we're going to Japan next.