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What went wrong?
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>>139829143
They didn't stay shirtless for the entire series
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Not enough Kudelia being Lenin.
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-shoestring budget so show looks like ass a lot
-executed cliches badly
-too much time devoted to shit nobody cared about
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>>139829143
they killed best boy
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They killed off best girl and best Graze far too quickly.
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lack of lasers and beam weapons
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>>139829626
he said wrong, not right.
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>Kudelia
>Orga, Mikazuki, and crew constantly making stupid decisions that get them into heaps of trouble but they always come out in the end with only a few injuries/deaths
>Not enough deaths of main characters.
>Char clone looks ridiculous and elicits laughter when he dons his mask, not intimidation. He was more fear-inducing in his regular persona when you had no idea what he was up to at the beginning or what he was going to do.
>Carta's design was ugly and her antics were embarrassing. I didn't like how she was treated like a joke one minute and then we were supposed to feel sorry for her the next after her demise
>Ein was built up into something huge yet there is no payoff at the end and he is defeated too quickly

And before someone criticizes my "not enough deaths" complaint, I am far from the type of person who wants a lot of blood and death in an anime. I don't care for what teenagers consider "dark and edgy" but I think more deaths on the side of the good guys would have hammered home the point how serious their situation was and how important family is. They really screwed up on that part as well as the implication that Mikazuki and the others were turning into "monsters".
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>>139829626
>No flashing, pretty colors like that mess Gundam SEED

>>139829652
This.
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>>139829598
Is she a fox?
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>>139829209
That would have been sublime.
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>>139829143
Hidden siblings
Kudelia is more of a plot device then character
Child Soldiers part felt like it transformed from something serious and traumatizing instead turning into an excuse justifying why the cast are all teenagers
Mika, although awesome, its pretty bland

That being said, I enjoyed it. I never missed a new episode, whereas on other shows I might fall behind or miss a few weeks and catch up. But I enjoyed IBO enough to consistently follow releases at least.
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Barely any robots.
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Not enough singing idols.
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>>139829143
>What went wrong?

This qt didn't get enough dick.
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>>139829984
Didn't want to rob Macross Delta of its only plot point.
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>>139829984
That's literally the only thing that could've made it worse.
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>>139829143
Sunrise doing shit for once.
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I call it the bastard child of one piece and mai hime.

Im still mad, all of those faggots should be dead.
Muh nakama poweeer. Nobody dies in a fucking suicide mission. Fuck this series.
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>>139829768
yep

>>139829766
Man, at first I was all hype to see a gundam without beam shit and old school smacking motherfuckers around, but then the anime was shit visually.
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>>139829143
okada shit writing
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Rest in peace, sweet princess of justice.
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It was a good show.

I really enjoyed it and I'm really looking forward to the 2nd Season.

I'm being 100% legit here. I just wished the animation had been better on some parts.
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>>139834143
She will be sorely missed.
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>>139833548
>Nobody dies in a fucking suicide mission.
Plenty died. Stay mad, faggot.
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>>139829143
0079 had terrible shitty animation and bad fights.
Zeta has awful Tomino dialogue and characters doing stupid things everywhere.
ZZ is pants on head retarded, also not canon.
CCA has Quess being an irritating cunt and a bullshit ending.
0080 is muh revisionist history and edgy forced drama.
0083 has Nina being a backstabbing cunt and is shit outside of the animation.
08th MS Team has muh Romeo and Juliet and a Ball being invincible for no reason. Fucking plot armor.
Unicorn is Zeon apologism everywhere and stupid Newtype bullshit.
F91 is just 0079 rehashed.
Victory is muh dead wimmenz.
G is awful super robot bullshit.
Wing is shitty teenage garbage.
X is muh Oldtype wank and shitty rehashed Wing reject designs.
Turn-A is boring as fuck and Loran being the first useless pacifist cuntbag.
SEED is teenage drama fujoshit.
Destiny is teenage-ier, drama-ier fujoshit.
00 is autistic lead pilots and the worst second season of anything ever.
AGE is everything wrong with all of the above and more besides.
G-Reco? More like "gee, I wish I'd watched anything other than this".

And now IBO is even more shit.

Tomino was right: Gundam was a mistake.
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>>139829143
Not enough Kudelia in genie pants
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>>139829277
This exactly. I don't think I've yet seen such a to-the-point list of IBOs flaws. For all the shitposting it gets, these are by far its biggest problems.
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>>139829143

>How the show was advertised: a bunch of Martian orphans doing Gundam shenanigans with some girls here and there just to avoid sausagefest
>How it turned out to be: KUDELA SUGOI, WOW KUDELIA YOU ARE SO MATURE, KUDELIA LET'S BECOME MOTHERS, WAAAHH FUMITAN, MUH REVENGE FOR BARA CAPTAIN
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>>139834826
Thunderbolt truly is the saviour of mecha.
>>139835461
Yeah, if you cut out everything but Atra dialogue, i guess you might have gotten that impression.
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>>139835798
>Majestic Prince truly is the saviour of mecha.

Fixed for you
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>>139835860
But the saviour of mecha was Gundam Seed Exodus.
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>>139835860
>Active Raid truly is the saviour of mecha.
Repaired with your interests in mind.
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>>139836008

The only good part of AR was that midget with back seam pantyhos, and I mean good for my dick
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>>139829143

Another fucking pure princess who advocates for peace and only gets in the way of the men trying to fight a war.

Words cannot begin to express how tired I am of this trope.
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>>139836008
>Active Raid truly is the saviour of mecha
>Has one episode dedicated to the death of giant robots
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>>139829143
not enough Gundam fights in the middle

seriously, it was like 10 episodes without a fight. its bullshit
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>>139836256

uguu~
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>>139834809
>they killed fucking DIOS
IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>139829143
They finally did a "cold-blooded protagonist" but at the cost of making him the most boring twat ever.
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>>139829143
Nothing happening for 25 episodes
No cute cyber newtype girls
No Haro
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>>139829143

Not enough Ein
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>>139834826
This.
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>>139829143
Everything.
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>>139836256
Are you retarded? Kudelia deliberately incited more conflict and death on her path toward Martian prosperity more than anyone else in the entire show with full awareness of "getting her hands dirty." They hammered this down with each episode and even made a visual metaphor of it with her shaking hands with Mika.

>>139836702
That one was Gutts. First they killed Dios, then they killed Gutts. As in, his name was actually Gutts.
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>>139834826
How did you get through so many Gundam series despite not liking any of them?
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>>139836008
>shit that flops hard
>production QUALITY IMS
>saving anything

lol, hipsters
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>>139840786
It's a meme, anon.
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It was fucking boring
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>>139829143
Shitty melodrama and bad writing.

I was pretty interested in the show from the first episode. I think I got really disillusioned after the episode where Akihiro talks about his brother only for his bro to immediately show up then die. Everything feels really forced and disingenuous.
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Where the fuck is episode 3 of thunderbolt? I just want to forget about IBO.
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>>139840910
Meme means these day watching something you don't like?
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>>139842337
Just read the manga till volume 2 and watch the anime for the jazz. Besides, it's not like the story is too complex to watch raw anyway.
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>>139842477
Meme means this post is a copypasta.
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>>139829143
It wasn't directed by Kawamori.
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>>139829652
>>139829766
beams are alright if done right. I feel like they could have done more visually with the ballistic/melee weaponry. The feeling of impact just isn't there for the guns
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>>139829143
The directing, writing and production were all incredibly weak. This leaves pretty much nothing.
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They should ramp up the exposition in S2 because they're still stuff that went right over some people's heads.
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>>139845261

They could spend an entire six episodes hammering away at a concept in the most clear, repetitive fashion possible and it would still go right over people's heads.

Some people are really fucking stupid. It's best not to worry about said people when writing a story.
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>>139845261
Except the main problem most people had with it was all the talking and muh family. People understood the story. It was just shit.
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I liked IBO. Was the animation really that bad? I don't watch much anime but it didn't seem to be terrible.

I agree that they should have had more deaths with all of the way they talked about doing suicide missions. Maybe a few dudes died in the end but we just didn't know it?

I've only watched about 3-4 Gundams and don't know much about the ones I didn't watch. But I have a serious question. Outside of Daimon, is there a Gundam protag that isn't a fucking autist/unfeeling machine?
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>>139844159
Where is episode 4? This scene was not in ep 3.
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>>139846052
raws are out on /m/
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>>139846138
Why the fuck are they on /m/ and not nyaa?

Well, whatever. Thanks.

>133mb

Nevermind, this must be potato quality.
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>>139845930
>I don't watch much anime but
>but
There's no 'but'. You don't watch much, that's why you don't know when it's terrible since you've never seen the ones that are actually well animated.
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>>139846138
>>139846052
But ep 4 will only be out on 22 April. Another leak?
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>>139845930
This is what a properly animated Gundam looks like.

https://d.maxfile.ro/kzqqenuuzw.webm
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>>139846180
>>139846257
It comes out early on the Gundam Fan Club app
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>>139846221
You're right. I guess I should have said it didn't look terrible to the layman watcher like myself.

>>139846261
What's this from?
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>>139829143
Everything really
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>>139846644
gundam
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>>139846817
Which series though, mate.
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>>139846848
Seed Destiny
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>>139846848
You know, if you looked up the name of the mobile suit you would find the answer in a few seconds.
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>>139846848
Are you retarted? You have even subtitles with a character name, is it that hard to put it in the fucking google?
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>>139845930
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>>139846261
I will never get tired of that motherfucking Stark Jegan.
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>>139845930
>Daimon
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>>139846261
Kshtriya and Shzrum Gallus are probably my fav mobile suits. Zeeks may be faggots, but they know how to design MS.
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>>139845930
Compared to fucking G-Reco, yeah.
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>>139847040
You misspelled the names of both of your favorite suits, anon.
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>>139829143
It's funny when even the Zeek propaganda has better plot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewoVW-gSRQo
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>>139845930
Build Fighters was pretty much nothing but gunpla commercials and yet it still looked better than the pile of shit that is IBO.
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>>139847101
Nope. You're just confusing your own preferences with others.
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>>139847152
Still better love story than twilight
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>>139834415

4chan is the only place I've seen that professes to utterly despise it, but then they do this for every Gundam series so I hardly believe it's real people with real opinions that matter much.
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>>139847197
There is no purer love than that between Sei and his Star Build Strike.
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>>139847178
Kshatriya is awesome.

Aso my favorite non-Gundam suit Anon, nice taste!
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>>139844159
Beams are easier to make a fight look interesting, which benefits a lot of Gundam series with more fights in it.

The focus on melee (because guns were completely fucking useless in IBO), and non-instant kill beam sabers at that, means that IBO fights need to be more elaborate and interesting. The only issue is that they clearly didn't have the budget or effort to back this up, so we have less fights overall, with most of those having shitty animation.
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>>139847221
Look at >>139845930 This is your typical fan outside 4chan.
The typical anime hasn't even watch much Gundam, let alone mecha. No shit, they love IBO. They have no standards. Don't go blaming 4chan when this is one of the rare cases where /m/ and /a/ actually know what they're talking about.
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>>139847285
I prefer the unicorn look than the NT-D mode.
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>>139846261
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>>139847285
>>139847040
Woundwort is the best MS design. Nightingale probably is the second.
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>>139847221

4chan doesn't even give it a real look basically. All the threads are careful leads like "what went wrong" or "something something Okada shit writing" so that people know the direction they're expected to shitpost in and what opinions they're supposed to have. This happens a lot here in general with leading OPs and basically shitposters follow one of two courses, either 100% emphatic agreement in theory or 100% pure dismissal of whatever the OP suggests followed by some comment about how he's a pleb, normie,faggot and/or cuck that needs to return to whatever other major board the shitposter feels like posting. You could probably design a flow or bingo chart around most threads on /a/ and get the general course of it at least 80% accurate.
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>>139847337

Not really, they're just more militant about their positions if anything if they're even being genuine at all so much as circlejerking it in the way that's expected of them. Guy you quoted is professing actual independent thought so he's already doing better than most of /a/
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>>139847337

/a/ and /m/ agreeing, cats and dogs living together....MASS HYSTERIA!
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>>139847285
>>139847040
You guys better show your support and buy the new 1/100 Kshatriya when it comes out, even if it's like 200 USD.
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>>139847399
Full series when? I really like the idea of having both the hero and heroine being battle couples and piloting mobile suits together.
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>>139846261
You are comparing a new universe in the series to fucking Unicorn, a UC series that came once a year. Don't be a faggot.
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>>139847490

>/a/ and /m/ agreeing

This is how you can tell it's all bullshit.
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>>139847368
I prefer the Unicorn look too from the aesthetic perspective, but I just get so unbelievably hyped when NT-D mode engages. It means shit is going to go down and also the classic Gundam look.
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>>139847530
Is Origin III out yet?
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>>139847506
Oh hell yes, my wallet will be ready for when it happens.
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>>139847530
The hype gets lost near the end though, where he's constantly in NT-D mode. It doesn't feel special anymore because of it.
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>>139847557
No, not till late May. Also that's not Origin.
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>>139847507
Never. In fact, the next thing Sunrise will probably do is retcon Late-UC out of existence by making a new Unicorn sequel about some the Remnants of New Neo Neo Neo Zeon rising up again.
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>>139847507
There's a better chance of a Crossbone TV series, and we all know that won't happen.

To be honest, the next big UC project might be Advance of Zeta if I had to guess.
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There was definitely something that went wrong during the anime
>carta is defeated
>mika is ready to kill her
>???
>she's somehow saved
>she fight mika again
>dies
It's like they had to cut 10 minutes and didn't have to time to come up with something better.
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>>139847424
Get out here while you still have some dignity
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>>139847621
I'm getting the feeling that Sunrise has given up on making late UC a thing. Maybe a bit gunshy at this point.
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I don't think the show was bad. In fact I think it was pretty good, especially if you like to draw deeper meaning from shows. It had some moments when the animation would take you out of it, and some of the tropes weren't done correctly. It was overall a good show.
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>>139847506
Is that a motherfucking Rig Contio? Will LateUC finally get a kit that isn't a Gundam?
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>>139847712
We don't really know if all of these will make it, Kshatriya is basically confirmed though. So far only the Efreet has been released and it looks pretty good for what it is.
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>>139847178
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>>139847632

I often consider it lately even though I enjoy the whole anonymity thing and being able to just jump in and out of threads without any lingering bullshit that's going to follow me around everywhere I go which is about the biggest upside of the site. I've been here about 2 years now and still feel mostly sane through it all though there were some pretty bad weeks during the Winter season. Literally the correlation between /a/ being exceptionally awful or not seems to revolve around their being a Kyoani and/or Shaft show airing during it.

We'll see how Spring goes before I make any long term decisions. Thanks though.
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>>139847422
brother
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>>139848037
>I've been here about 2 years now
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>>139848037

/a/ is pretty much mostly viable for the post sexy images and topics type threads. Any thread where you're supposed to give some sort of opinion on an overall show on you might as well be ready bail at the first sign of shitposting where it isn't a matter of if but when it's going to overtake whatever has been happening in the thread up to that point. It's really easy for a small group of shitposters to completely derail a given shows threads for an entire season just because of how dedicated they are to their hobby.
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>>139848076

What's the acceptable length of time to have spent on 4chan and why does it even fucking matter? I'm guessing since the day it was founded or something?
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>>139848134
anon you may or may not be narcissistic
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>>139848076

I've been on this board for 15 years now. Check out how cool I am.
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>>139848147

I think you quoted the wrong guy. >>139848076

And nope not narcissistic, just not an idiot.
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http://www.reddit.com/4dzxnj/
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>>139848117
Not really. You just need to find (know) the right time.
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>>139847574
It did lose its charm, but then it turned mountain dew green and I felt better about it again.

The end of episode 6 and almost all of 7 was just pure mecha porn and it felt so good.
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>>139836256
what did you say!?
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>>139843677
Copypastas are copypastas
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