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Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true

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>>139794791
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
I'm the kind of person who, if I were living in another time, if I had to pick any time, I would probably be a pioneer. I just love the simplicity of what it means to work hard with your hands - to eat and survive.
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Threadly reminder to read the freakin' guide and use Tae Kim for grammar studies.
There's a reason it's there, thank you.
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>悪木盗泉
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>>139828981
Interesting, I came across 渇しても盗泉の水を飲まず a few days ago in that dissapointment of an rpgmaker game
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"Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Darth Dekiru the Wise?"

"No."

"I thought not. It's not a story that /djt/ would tell you. It's a Nihongo legend. Darth Dekiru was a Dark Lord of Nihongo so powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to influence the kanji-chlorians to create...posts. He had such a knowledge of the Dark Side, he could even keep the VNs he cared about...from being translated."

"He could actually...save kamige from translation?"

"The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural."

"What happened to him?"

"He became so powerful, the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power...which, eventually of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew. Then his apprentice deleted his Anki deck in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from English...but not himself."

"Is it possible to learn this power?"

"Not from /djt/."
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I was wondering if anybody had a good physical jap-eng dictionary they could recommend. The glossary in Genki blows.
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Is 坊や a loanword from English? Or just a false cognate? I'm inclined to believe the former, what are your thoughts?
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>>139829202
>>139829201
nice meme
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Will life be easier when I move to Japan /djt/?
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Tireless refreshing has finally payed off!
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Question: I began studying my core2k/6k after a long period of time and i feel something is not right. I've seen about 600 cards already and doing fine, but i'm starting to get some very difficult and far-fetched cards like 前売り券 , 活字. It's not that they are particularly hard, but i feel like i could be learning more useful words at this point.
It's something wrong with my deck or is it normal?
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Do you drink cawfee while doing your reps?
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>>139829778
If you're looking for words that aren't useful, Core2k/6k isn't the place. Everything there is there precisely because they're uber common.
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>>139828890
Repost from last thread.
If it doesn't garner any feedback I'll assume that there isn't any current interest and I'll keep the project to personal preferences any maybe upload the final version pdf when it is done likely sometime around December or the start of 2017. Image used purely to draw attention- sorry about that.

Could I grab the attention of a few anons?
https://a.uguu.se/yshbqj_RelativeClause.pdf
Above is an example of one of the concepts from the DoJG (basic volume) which has had its respective image from the DoJG Anki deck converted to text, added to the DoJG.pdf.
I've converted a few dozen concepts so far and are going to start adding them batches, but haven't got a format laid out. The docx version of the DoJG.pdf I am using is done really well, everything properly in styles, so I used two pre-existing styles; one for the 【Notes】/【Related Expression】and one for the body of the Notes text, so tweaking that is just a matter of tweaking the styles.

Question on the format: if that okay for the Notes section or is there a more ideal layout? Also, what else would you like to see integrated into the document so it can be used as a mainstay replacement for manually looking things up across the three different stand alone Dictionary of Japanese books?
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Would anyone recommend G-senjou no maou?
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>>139829924
Common in newspapers?
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>>139829348
I'll send over a recommendation by telegram.
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>>139829348
Why does it have to be physical? It's going to be annoying as fuck to look up kanji.
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>>139829988
Common in Japanese.
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Last 3 days of ANKI in pic related.
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>>139830008

Yes. While I am at my computer, I can look crap up. But I often end up having a few free hours with no internet.
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>>139830165
youre supposed to write what you do in anki?

uh oh
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>>139830188
Order a can of self-discipline from Amazon instead.
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>>139829924
I get what you say, but should i really be learning the word for "Ticket you buy in advance" when i don't know how ti say things like "animal", "hospital", "chair", "egg", "kitchen", "shoe", etc...? ( i actually know most of this words, but not because of the anki deck )
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>>139830313
動物, 病院, 椅子, 卵, 台所 and 靴 are all well before 前売り券 in Core6K, make sure your deck isn't set to random order.
http://core6000.neocities.org/
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>>139830165
this is a guy i like
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>>139830429
aww fuck... then something is definitely wrong with my deck.
how can i check for sure?
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>>139830277

I perfectly fine studying a few hours each day, this is not a matter of self-discipline.

I am just looking for something physical for when I have several hours of free time without any sort of online connection.
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>>139830614
You either have the order set to random in your deck options or you downloaded some random shit instead of the deck in the Anki start-up guide.
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>>139829961
Yes
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>>139830721
no random, but i had some sync issues that may be the cause of it...
how the hell do i fix it.
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>>139829924
I'm fluent and have never seen 前売り券
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>>139830273
It helps with memorization. But the time spent doing this could be spent doing more reps instead, so that's up to you. I've decided to do it like this because I don't want to remain only a passive reader.
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>>139830273
Yeah I was not informed on this either. Giving up now.
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>>139830273
not really
you can do whatever you want
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When do I use various forms of arigatou like arigatou gozaimasu, otsukare sama, arigatou gozaimashita, etc?
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>>139831910
-shita is in the past, so you're thanking the person for something he already did. Otsukaresama is for job related activities, "thanks for the hard work".
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>>139831631
the only thing about what youre doing is its a fucking mess its actually literal madman shit

i still like it and support your choices. try to start putting sentences together
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>>139831910
>using romaji
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>>139831631
Don't let the cops see that when they raid your apartment for pirated shit.
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>>139829647
その鳥居
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>>139829949
What ever happened to the html version of the DOJG that used to be in the CoR?
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>>139832009
arigatou gozaimashita anon.
>>139832148
Unfortunately my Jap keyboard has not been delivered yet.
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>>139832279
ほんとおに?!かっこいい!!
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>>139832357

>not using an ime
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>>139832432
I literally said that I don't have it yet.
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>>139832357
what do you need a japanese keyboard for?
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>>139832337
Too far out of date to be useful. That was well before the typographical error project was done.
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>>139832520
じさつしたまえ
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>>139832520

Are you this retarded?
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Good work feeding obvious trolls, you dumb fucks.
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>>139832616
Wow, agressive, huh...
>>139832628
Gomen, boku ha kono mondai ga zenzen wakarimasen.
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>>139832747
you realize you dont need a japanese keyboard to type in japanese right?
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>>139832568
Well it looks fine to me but I'm not really the main audience.
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>>139832357
Your new Japanese keyboard will be giving you the same latin characters your current one does. It has fuck all to do with the hardware.
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>>139832809
Uun, kore ha nani wo suru desuka? Boku ha romanji no taipingu suru, demo hirgana to katakana nyuuryoku de nihon no kiiboodo shitai yo.
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Hey guys,
Its been like a year since I studied last. I can still read but lately I have been having some trouble remembering kanji.

Which deck would be recommended? The one I had before is lost because I had to wipe that comp recently. Thanks.
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>>139832553
cross channel tower of friends
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>>139832963
Heisig's Tall Tales volume 1.
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Just curious, since many of you seem to spend almost all your study time learning Kanji, how do you make time to learn vocabulary?

Japanese seems like such a hard (and impressive) language to learn.
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>>139833236
>since many of you seem to spend almost all your study time learning Kanji
That's not the case. Learning kanji through vocab is the official DJT approved method.
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>>139833236
they either learn it at the same time or stick to the core deck like this >>139833329 anon and get completely assraped by jukugo.
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KD`s deck.
Damn, hand writing these fuckers really help.
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>>139833673
>KD
>handwriting
nice stats friend
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>>139833673
>26 minutes

fuck you and everything you stand for
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>>139832012
>>139832198
Are you kidding me? Those are my "good days".

Here it is when I can't ass myself into looking at the paper.
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>>139833670
>get completely assraped by jukugo.
I guess this is what a clueless RTK person would say, but it's completely false. Those are actually even easier than single kanji words are, as the optimised core deck loves to hammer a bunch of words that recycle the same kanji into your head in a row.
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>>139833863
You know it does that so you can learn the kanji right?
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>>139833954
And that's why doing RTK is pointless.
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>>139833633
i cant see what that post was because it got deleted but it wasnt me dude
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>>139833987
It really is.
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>>139833987
>>139834026
Well, it is what it is. It's not LTK, it's RTK.
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>>139833329
>official DJT approved method
This bullshit only serves to start flame wars.
There is no "official method", that's why the guide has many different suggestions and the CoR has a diverse range of resources suiting many different approaches.

Those sort of posts are the reason why this thread has so many stupid arguments over different opinions on the "right" way to do something. I don't know what you personally gain out of that sort of flamebaiting, but it negatively impacts everyone else who uses the thread who aren't here for /b/tard shitposting.
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お前たちが
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>>139834264
this specific image won't load for some reason
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>>139828890
still learning the hiragana characters here, i just wanna learn to read and im at the point where if i see the character i can recognize it and know what it is, but for example if i want to write the character i can't remember how it looks like. Should i continue on to or learn how to write them as well?
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>>139834315
if you want to write them then practice writing them
if you don't care then just practice reading them
is that hard to consider?
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>>139834264
So, she's high on weed?
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>>139834354
>is that hard to consider?
Not at all, but did not know if knowing to write it was necessary or not. Thanks though i guess i'll start with just learning how to read for now

>>139834264
nothing makes me feel better than just looking at what is written and knowing what it means
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If 日本語 had a birthday, when would it be?
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>>139828980
>>139828980
>>139828980
This. Give it another look through if you haven't in a while, you may have missed something the first time around.
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>>139833791
>122分
えっと.. 何をするんだ?
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>>139834264
i dont think you can really get away posting that if your post sucks no ones gonna take you seriously and its a bad look nice try
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>>139834562
First of April, because it's a joke of a language.
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I think I read like 3 volumes of manga today what should i do next
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>>139835277
Brush your teeth.
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Why don't we just replace our wordy guide with this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuQKmPhRiSg
The guy tells you everything you need to know without any bollocks.
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>>139832357
>here's your Jap keyboard bro
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>>139835565
>guy fieri teaches japanese
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今日わ、みんなさん
私は日本語が上手になりましたかな
これからいっしょうけんめいがんばるます
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>>139835993

How would one say "flavortown" in japanese?
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>>139836083
whatever the kanji is for town の whatever the kanji is for flavor

or maybe it would be the other way around

i cant learn japanese  
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>>139836083
fぁヴぉrとwn
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>>139836330
Flavortown != town`s flavor
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>>139836083
味の街
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>>139836806
Were you drunk when you went through TK?
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梵天王 朝餉 甲冑 神格 禅 貪瞋癡 閇
rare
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>>139837160
>神格 禅
wat
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躑む is my new favorite word/kanji in core 2k6k
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>>139837301
You forgot 甲冑 and his earlier 顰蹙
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>>139836914
townのflavor
flavor of town
town`s flavor

?
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>>139837887
mydickのflavor
flavor of mydick
mydick's flavor

?
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>>139837887
味の街ってことでしょ
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>>139837160
>朝餉
I had only ever seen 夕餉.
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>>139838478
そうだ
あれは正解です。多分..
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>>139838602
I have seen both but have never seen 昼餉
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>>139838602
Why is there so many different names for meals? Stuff like dinner and supper makes sense, but there's like 5 different words for the same thing in Japanese.
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>>139837596
That kanji usage is so obscure it's not even in my dictionary.
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What the hell does いざ mean? The rikai translations never seem to make any sense when I see it while reading.

E.g.,

これからいざ思うところを思う存分怒りのままにぶちまけようと準備していたらしいホロは、ロレンスのそんな叫び声にあっけにとられて目を点にしている。
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>>139839549
dinner
supper
main meal
din din
banquet
pre bj steak
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>>139840053
Here in Australia we call dinner tea as well.
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>>139839987
It means real nigga hours
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>>139840423
pretty much this desu
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>>139840423
>real nigga hours

What?
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>>139840053

What about second breakfast? And elevenses?
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>>139840633
Some /v/ meme I think.
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>>139840633
I was memeing a bit. Sorry, I don't have a great answer, but give a J-J dictionary a try if Rikai's translations doesn't make sense. For example,
https://kotobank.jp/word/いざ-431755
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>>139841138
Sounds pretty chuuni desu
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>>139832912
You asked me about the arigatos but your Japanese is better than mine, onii-chan.
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おはようおにいちゃん

たけのこの

初物とってきたよ

いっしょにたべよ
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>>139841193
かなり美しい中二です
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>>139835116
>because it makes a joke out of your life
Fixed for you
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>>139841740
Want a taste of mine?
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面白いアニメ教えてください
>その前に「ぼくのぴこ」
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>>139842431
One piece
Dragonball Z
Bleach
Naruto
Detective Conan
Pokemon
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>>139842431
新世界より
電波女と青春男
デス・パレード

>>139842507
すげー
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>>139842431
anata no nihongo wa hetasugiru yo. deteike
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What are your favorite mangas for accents
Legit accents only please none of that fake shit written by tokyo natives
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Following sound advice, I am fluid Japan.
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>>139842761
音の助言を追う俺わ液体日本
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>>139842431
らんま1/2を見る?
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>>139842862
留美子ってもう100歳近いんじゃないの
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>>139842626
I'm not sure if you intentionally listed really difficult anime or not
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>>139842917
知らない、らんまは面白いだ知ってるだけ
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>>139833791
literally what are you doing anon

50 of these reviews were writing practice as well
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>あの感じいつ「のんのんびより」シーズン3ネバー
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>>139839872
Same. It wasn't in my IME either.

To be honest, the word was presented in hiragana in core, and I went to jisho and copy+pasted it here. Just thought it was a rare and cool-looking kanji.
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>>139842927
Intentionally? Nah, I just listed interesting anime.
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is there some way to get the anki ui to not be so bland? i feel like if it were more spicy and colorful like wanikani it'd help me keep focused.
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>>139843546
新世ゲイヤオイは糞アニメ
電波女は面白いけどなんか変
デスパレードはおk
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>>139843614
yoi esa da yo, onii-chan
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>>139843700
>新世ゲイヤオイは糞アニメ
>letting a homo episode ruin the entire thing for you
>電波女は面白いけどなんか変
Isn`t that why it`s interesting?
>デスパレードはおk
Cool.
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>>139843814
The problem is obviously that it's the wrong kind of homo.
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>>139843858
I know, but it`s still just one episode.
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>>139843814
あyylまお
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>>139843099
Being slow as fuck is an art form.
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Remember to do some light physical exercises each day. Sitting still for extended periods of time will fuck you up
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>>139844444
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>>139844566
そんなのなんでもないだろ
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>>139844566
Thanks doc.
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I take back what I said. Reddit's question thread is actually just filled with boring questions they could have just googled or ignored in favor of reading or feeling. I think I'm actually getting worse at Japanese for reading it because of how many wrong or just idiotic answers there are.
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>>139844870
https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/4d91w9/started_learning_japanese_at_17_now_18_not_having/
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>>139844566
Wish someone would've told me this before I lost my foot to diabetes
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>>139845147
>Well, to be fair you can learn 70% of the words used in common conversation (1000 words) in about 6 months
What the fuck
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>>139845537
what do you know about common conversation with another human being
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>>139845681
more than 1000 words
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>>139845704
can you show me all of them id like to count
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>>139845537
6 months is way too fucking long, you can learn 1k vocab with anki in less than 2 months
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>>139845746
no. they're secret words my family has amassed over centuries of labor. sharing those precious words would be the same as murdering my family. I can't do it.
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>>139845786
then why cant djt have simple conversations i wonder

>>139845821
look i need your strongest words im going into battle
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>>139845852
fine, anon... fine. after all, i don't want you to die. i can't give you all of them, but i'll give you my strongest word. i'll give you a word which can be used in almost any online battlefield. i hope you'll cherish it, and it will keep you safe.

the word is: 自閉症

godspeed.
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>>139845852
I can have シンプルカイワ
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>>139845852
Most posters here are beginners like myself, and lack the grammar knowledge and reading experience to write down jap sentences.
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>>139845911
そりゃどうも
十分使えるみたいだな
http://loopthetube.com/#TOB-TKNVbJA&start=457.7&end=458.9

>>139846008
こんにちわ 今はいてるパンツは何色

>>139846424
i guess dude i guess even though theres tons of anki posts that tend to suggest otherwise......
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>>139846557
>i guess dude i guess even though theres tons of anki posts that tend to suggest otherwise
Such as? Most of them have "no mature cards were studied today" in them.
Besides, the key to learning this shit is to understand it first, then try to be understood.
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>>139846557
紺碧いろでちゅうーーーーっ
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>>139846685
theres people of all kinds but the same cannot be said for posts

>>139846711
そうですかい 良い色じゃのう
僕の場合はピンクなんですけど
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カレーたべたい

つくっておにいちゃん
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>>139847291
カレーの代わりにバナナはどうだい
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>>139846926
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>>139847660
This is definitely made by a gaijin
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>>139847660
ワウ
やっと何かわかってる人みっけ
あなたに花丸を
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日本人はポテトチップスを箸で食べる
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>>139845911
>self-shut-illness
I love when a 熟語 makes sense
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>>139832279
ナイスしゃれ
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>tfw no anon who streams himself learning japanese
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>>139848913
うそつき
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Sex scenes use way too many words. I hope that was Nao's last scene.

Apparently a native can read every route of Satsukoi in 10 hours. I've probably spent 4 hours just on the sex scenes in 1 route so far, and there may still be more to come.
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>>139849949
do you know what a chinko is
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>>139850067
You don't understand. Satsukoi sex scenes are like taking an anatomy class. There are words for body parts that I don't even know in English. Unfortunately I didn't save that one. But I did save 粘膜 which I'm sure will come in handy.
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>>139850222
did the girl have 膣カンジダ症 or some shit thats gross
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Sorry if this is a stupid or obvious question, but is there some way that I can banish cards from anki into an alternate deck? I currently have around 20 cards that I can just never fucking remember floating around my circulation, and I want to make them their own deck so I can tackle them every day without clogging everything else up.
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>>139849949
>>139850222
Are you adding every new word or just words that you weren't able to guess the first time? Also what are you doing man didn't you start this like a few months ago why'd it take you a few weeks to get from one H scene to the next? I thought you were doing Flyable Heart routes at like 1 route a week / a few days towards the end.
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>>139850337
I hope that word never comes up in a VN.
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>>139850378
Just make a new deck, select those cards, and use the "move deck" (or whatever it's called) button in the browse window.
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>>139850411
Sweet, will try.
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>>139850383
I add most words, usually not if I guess them, but sometimes I do it anyway.

In FH the common route was really boring which is why it took me 7-8 months just to read it, but the character routes were compelling, so I read them faster. Satsukoi is just not interesting right now. It teased me with a really interesting scene, but then immediately switched back to stupid high school shit and sex. I think it will get interesting eventually, I just have to keep going.

Some days I read FH for 6 hours. The longest I've read Satsukoi was 2 hours, and that was today just because I wanted to get the sex over with.

I am disappointed with myself. I really expected to go faster this time.
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おにいちゃんのにほんごは

誤字おおくして

脱字すくなからず
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>>139850386
Would make a great LN.
>Because I'm Too Embarrassed to Tell my Parents and Too Inep to Do It, I'll Make My Big Brother Treat My Yeast Infection!
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>>139850710
literally barfing
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>>139850672
Should have dropped fh,desu
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>>139850678
もっと頑張ります
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>>139850672
maybe instead of satsukoi you shoulda went with nanairo reincarnation

you get to fuck onis and shit and you dont have to hear about cunt boogers
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>>139850672
Yeah it's surprisingly how much more compelling most of the routes in Flyable Heart were compared to the common route (though a lot of that might've been related to reading capabilities and vocab). I understand the pains of something not being compelling though.

I was reading Seikishi Melty Lovers and had to put it on the side and read it on and off alongside other stuff most of the time because I just didn't find it very interesting aside from the end of the routes. Plus it had way too many H scenes. Only really liked one of the routes.

I'd probably force yourself to read more than you are and if it's still not compelling after you finish that route then just drop it and look for an interesting moege/charage or read the FH fandisc or Mayuri's VN or something (I'm probably going to start reading the fandisc tomorrow after I catch up on the anime that have aired this season and then Mayuri's VN after I finish the fandisc). After reading both of those your vocab and reading speed should be fast enough that you should be able to get through the not-so-compelling parts relatively fast with a bit of willpower.

>>139850857
FH was bretty gud outside of the common route. Especially if you read all the routes and pieced stuff together yourself as you went along. Route order would probably also matter (I imagine doing Yui's last would be best).
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>>139850678
言うに事欠いて
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>>139850672
It physically hurts me to see you putting yourself through this. I spent like 8 hours today reading my VN and plan to do the same tomorrow, and am loving every second of it. To think you would choose such a boring VN that you have to force yourself through it.

Although to be fair, it might just be your taste is shit, since the common route of Flyable Heart is actually good.
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I'm confused about something here.

でも勝利をもぎ取る団体がまた出るかもしれないわ

Does the above sentence refer to a single organization, or more than 1? Or it could mean both?
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>>139851015
the worst part is you hate the vns before you can actually read them

life is only going to get worse once the lines stop blurring together and it all comes into focus, revealing that all your toil is for naught, tears streaming down your face into your razer light up keyboard as you read bland garbage that you were memenotized into thinking was great

>>139851146
yeah it can mean more than one

pay attention to 勝利をもぎ取る団体 and change out some nouns and the verb and see how it works in terms youre more used to itll probably click
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so im beginning today with listening practice

whats the shittiest anime i can watch so i dont ruin it by having an episode last for 4 hours of jishoing

im starting with death note
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>>139851319
all of them
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>>139851015
>FH fandisc or Mayuri's VN

I read the fandisc for a couple days, but decided I wanted to save it for later.

Next VN is probably White Album (not 2) or Leyline. As of now, I still plan to finish Satsukoi though.

>>139851044
Even when I used to read VNs in English it usually took me weeks or months to finish one. I usually have to force myself to even do things I enjoy, or I end up wasting time all day doing nothing.
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>>139851319
If you're fine watching something shitty you might as well rewatch something you've already seen instead

Otherwise I guess One Piece or something like that
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>>139851483
leyline is good for when you want to "graduate" from "character scenario" games to "character plot" games. the first one is immediately on the border between the two
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>>139851307
I mostly just didn't like Seikishi. I think FH's common route might've just been because I was too shit at reading to enjoy it at the time, I'll have to re-read it down the line and see. If anything learning Japanese has made me like VNs even more and made me more interested in manga/LNs (but for now I'm keeping my focus on VNs).

>>139851319
Just watch a seasonal show with subs from http://kitsunekko.net/dirlist.php?dir=subtitles%2Fjapanese%2F a 32bit player, and texthook it with http://pastebin.com/raw/DgZ84qwk

You'll have to shift the subs after the OP, mid-ep, and ED though (f1 / f2 in MPC). Just open the sub file and compare the time difference between the audio and the line in the sub file and adjust accordingly.
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>>139851525
How big of a step up plot-wise is the 2nd and 3rd? I noticed it has a fairly large jump in ratings as well as seeing mentions of it them being harder to read than the first one, but not sure by how much.
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>>139851574
no idea but the writing gets harder to read
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>>139851539
>I think FH's common route might've just been because I was too shit at reading to enjoy it at the time
I think this is likely, it felt really really really long when I read it but it's not actually, it's just I read ridiculously slowly. You'll probably notice the difference when you read the common route of Mayuri's VN.
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>>139850678
Fuck off
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>>139850678
If you're going to talk shit you should put this somewhere in your image.
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>>139850678
いじめはダメ
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>>139849949
>Apparently a native can read every route of Satsukoi in 10 hours.
Satsukoi was like my 5th VN or something and I finished it all in a single tight week, it's not long even for we weebs
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>>139852544
こんにちは、いもうとちゃん
今日は何をしますか
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>>139852686
人違いでしょ
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>>139852686
人違いね
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>>139852686
人違いぞ
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>士
>土

Okay, now you just have to be fucking with me.
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>>139852796
You should remove your eyes if you can't see the difference.
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>>139852796
Shoulda done RTK.
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>>139829202
今でも、ぞい子を妊婦にしたい。
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>>139852916
>tits too big to be pettanko
>body frame too large to be loli
>and yet too small to be proper OL
ぞいこ is a failure
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>>139852995
失敗ながら、いい精液の鬼だ
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>>139852995
Yeah, she's in the creepy zone.
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>>139844243
>87 minutes
whoah
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>tfw you pretend to be Japanese to Japanese people on the internet
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>>139853867
They know.
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Has anyone created a Chiitrans Lite CSS theme?
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マーグナーム!!
       (ヽ
   / ̄ ̄\ | |
   ((・)  (・)) | |
   >⊂⊃<ノ |
   // ̄ ̄\ ノ
  //    V
  /|    |
/ |    |
`(_∧    /
   >――<
   (__人__)
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>>139854239
Unfotunaly, 4chan not much for display AA.
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>>139854144
I just use the HTML setup from that pastebin without any styling on it because I read off of the VN and only use it for looking words up.
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>>139853959
>tfw you pretend to be a native English speaker to native English speakers on the internet
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>>139830651
Get one of those fancy electronic ones that let you lookup by handwriting.
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>>139844243
I handwrite everything.
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>>139853867
Your shit tier waifu gives you away.
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>>139854939
I envy your no. of relearns.
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>>139855698
What are your intervals even
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>mfw mudi was muri all along
I'm done with this bullshit
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>>139855852
there's no "di" is there? should be obvious
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>>139855883
I thought all those years of being an anime pro would help me in my nihon training but it turns out it will only hinder me.
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>tfw even with RTK, vocab reps are still hard and retention is still pretty mediocre for RTK-retention (85% young average) because I only mine words I think I'll have problems memorizing through reading / will have problems with even with anki
I know it's better this way because it means I'm doing fewer new cards than I need to and spending less time in Anki than I need to, but it's still frustrating that it won't get any easier because of how I choose what words to add.
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>>139855841
2 3 9 20 45 90
is it bad?
what's yours?
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>>139856043
>he fell for the learning kanji meme
it's normal to not have super good retention of every vocab until you actually start reading them in context constantly, don't stress it.
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>>139856106
This. Learning in context still trumps everything else. Try studying with yomichan.
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>>139856106
>>139856158
Did you not read the post? I am reading them in context and all of the new cards I do are mined from stuff I'm reading and I keep the original sentence I found the word from on the back of the card, I'm just only adding difficult words and words I consistently had trouble guessing while reading.

RTK worked great for me, my retention in Core went from 70-75% to 95-99%, so that's not the problem. It's just that I'm mostly adding challenging words that I had trouble guessing or words would only pop up once or twice every couple VNs (or less often).
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>>139856329
This. RTK helped me immensely with retention.

Only thing RTK doesn't help me with is grammar and holy shit I can't get grammar to work for me. Probably because I've turned into an anki drone.
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I haven't done my reviews in a month and a half because of life problems and got 800 reviews waiting for me. Should I use a backup from february and roll back, or start the deck again? I'mm somewhere at 2200 words. If I start again how much new words should I do?
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Can someone here help me translate this sentence? 中出しされているの喜び
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>>139856572
Nah, anki accounts for your absence in it's SRS algorithm. Just go through the 800, maybe at X words a day if you can't handle them all at once.

For new cards, 10 is a minimum for making good progress. Never go lower (except for going 0 when too busy (which shouldn't be too often, plan around anki not plan ignoring anki) or when lowering reviews). 20 is more ideal, 30+ is fast but hard.
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>>139855698
I keep my intervals at the default. I don't try to learn the "whole" new card under one day. Unless it's an easy one, I usually fail it the next day. Though by the third day at most, I'll have definitely remembered it for good. I found that this way the learning is more spaced out, and words stick better.
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>>139856430
Grammar is easy to grind in anki with example sentences.
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>>139856727
>Nah, anki accounts for your absence in it's SRS algorithm. Just go through the 800, maybe at X words a day if you can't handle them all at once.
Alright anon, I'll try that. I'll go back to adding new cards once I lower to at least 150 reviews a day.
>Never go lower (except for going 0 when too busy (which shouldn't be too often, plan around anki not plan ignoring anki) or when lowering reviews).

Yeah, I know. Some shit happened and I couldn't study, I fail like half the cards now.
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>>139855883
Look at the OP
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>>139844243
>>139833791
slowman reporting in
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>>139856572
I would have over 3000 cards due if I did that
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>>139857084
6503 here
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Will I sound like a cunt if I call thunder ごろごろ様?
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>>139857308
More like someone trying really hard to be funny

Typical gaijin fare
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>>139856749
I'll try this one, seems interesting.
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>>139858505
Is that supposed to be hard?
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>>139858505
Nah but really, do you have any screenshots of genuinely intimidating lines? The last one was just a list of squads and stuff.
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>>139858566
>>139858574
I'm posting cool things so other people will be interested in reading it, a la Seikishi Melty Lovers, Tonakoi, Flyable Heart, etc.
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In fact, that Zodiac Squad list was what got me reading it after seeing it a year ago and mulling it over so when I saw it in-game I posted it as a callback to that moment. It was even a small meme back then that got posted several times.
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>>139858652
>Seikishi Melty Lovers
I didn't really enjoy it. At least it gave me a lot of vocab and kanji. Also, isn't that supposed to be actually hard, whereas Seikishi, Tonakoi, and Flyable Heart are easy moege?
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How would you rate the difficulty level of Zaregoto?
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>>139858812
japanese/10
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>>139858776
I dunno, seems like the tough guys here find it easy.

No problem with being interested in reading hard stuff. Someone who finishes Silverio Vendetta will have their Japanese hardened by war. Remember that episode of the Twilight Zone when the rats evolved due to stress and murdered a bunch of scientists? Pretty much that, but with VNs.
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>>139858812
It's not exactly easy. Basically ordinary adult level Japanese, while not intentionally trying to be difficult like some chuuni stuff.
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>>139858972
Is it on nyaa? I can't find it there.
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>>139859165
nvm, found it.
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>>139858972
Nah I just didn't want to dive straight into a memehard game that's potentially actually good when I'm still not sure I can even handle the plotge that are supposed to be easy.
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>>139845147
kek
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>>139859259
Silverio Vendetta is a good opening for the genre. There's only so many chuuni VNs this bombastic
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>>139859330
so is this good progress or bad? id figure in 7 years the guy would be pretty good at japanese
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>>139859330
We're not so different after all. Or maybe this is a case of convergent evolution
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>>139858972
>tfw you recognize a kanji for the very first time on a screenshot
feels good、部屋
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>>139859532
Or maybe it's a sign that we're really all from Leddit.
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>>139859566
how long until i can do this?
;-;
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>>139859094
I see, I thought so since the author is Nisio. How do you like the novel by the way?
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>doing my reps
>some word has a fucking ayy lmao for an image accompanying the example
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>>139859483
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji_kentei#Level_5
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So what book are you reading now, DJT?

And by book I mean a book.
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>>139859624
when did you start? i'm seven days in and that's a word that came up in core which i bruteforced into my brain. a lot of other vocab is still shaky though
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>>139859625
I honestly tried reading it too early in my learning process and neither got very for or could really appreciate what I did read. But I liked it. It was interesting.
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>>139859755
i started maybe a month ago but ive been going really slow because of school/work

trying to finish a grammar book before i go hard on anki too so i dont know many kanji aside from numbers
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>>139859694
>And by book I mean a book.
Why you gotta be obnoxious?
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>>139860093
Just asking what booky book you're reading. And if anyone here does at all or if it's all LNs or eroge.

Btw don't be mistaken, I mostly read eroge myself too.
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>>139859694
I only read voiced pornographic powerpoints, I'm not interested in processed tree corpses.
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>>139859694
here u go

It's funny that I'm reading this when I dropped chemistry in secondary school
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>>139860282
>浜松西高校化学部部長・浅倉泉の人生の目標は“努力しないで生きること”。文化祭を前に泉は、ただ一人の部員・保科昶とフラーレンを生成する化学実験を行なっていた。そのとき学校を雷が直撃!実験失敗と落胆する泉の眼前には空気中に浮かぶシャボン玉のような粒子が生まれていた。ダイヤモンドより硬く空気より軽いその物質を泉は“ふわふわ”と名づけ、一儲けしようと考えるのだが…伝説の星雲賞受賞作、ついに復刊。

Sounds like it could be a light novel from Gagaga. But I guess so does 太陽の塔 from its summary, so I can't really judge.
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>>139859694
Started reading 個人的な体験. Feels like I'm just wasting my time looking up words "by hand".
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>>139860153
>LN's aren't books
kek
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>>139859694
That looks like some kiddie book.
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>>139860735
Well, you are
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>>139860407
I dont really care t b h
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>>139860805
That's just semantics. You know what I meant.
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>>139860878
>You know what I meant.
No, I really don't. Why don't you explain what you mean by a "book" and why LN's don't count?
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>>139860981
They're the equivalent of YA shit like Hunger Games aka no merit except brain masturbation. Actual literature is more engaging and features better prose.
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>>139860981
By book I meant a book for adults, LNs are for teenagers and children.

Of course in reality it's all books, that's why I said my post was just semantics, you dunce.
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>>139861054
>>139861085
Do you guys get your info about LNs from the first two lines of the wikipedia page?
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>>139861127
Hey, it's okay to read books for babies if you can't handle more.
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>>139861127
No, but from reading them. Of course exceptions exist too, for example some stuff by Gagaga, I read that too.
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>>139861193
the fuck is gagagagaga
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How did prose become such a meme word in such short time it's baffling
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>>139861355
ガガガ文庫, jesus the cluelessness, you defend LNs and don't know one of the few worthwhile publishers.
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Is there a site like EGS or vndb for LNs? To see the most acclaimed / best rated ones? I'm curious what non-anime LN are good, like most of the best VNs aren't anime but it seems like almost every relevant LN gets adapted. Only one I really know about is HakoMari.
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>>139861526
>HakoMari

Recently brutally torn down by denka.
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>>139861476
I'm not a dirty otaku or anything.
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>>139861476
not me dumbass

I just pirate them

>>139861581
ソースください
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>onomatopoeia
How the fuck do I understand them

Stumbled upon these while reading today. Can someone help explain the closest meaning in English?
>ずぼずぼ
apparently it's related to penis
>ボーボー
this one is related to hair
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>>139861670
https://ask.fm/moogy0/answers/135515227860?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=answer_own#_=_
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>>139861685
It always goes together with the relevant verb except in speech so you don't have to worry

ずぽずぽ is just the sound makes when a penis does a ピストン on a 小学生 pussy
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>>139861581
>best LN Iriya no Sora
>read description
>protag meets mysterious girl
>next day she is transferring into his class

is this a joke
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>>139861526
There's lndb and novelupdates, but I don't use either so I can't tell you which is better.
Why don't you want to read adapted LNs?
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>>139861581
>brutally torn down
you have funny standards anon
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>>139861766
aligator
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>>139861779
Maybe you shouldn't judge things just by their premises. Maybe read some Japanese review to get a better idea. Although it doesn't seem like you can.
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What's the best listening practice for a beginner? I'm talking about real Japanese, not anime bullshit.
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>>139861910
>listening practice for a beginner
>real japanese
Pick one
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>>139861910
>real Japanese
This meme needs to end.
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>>139861910
Nothing comes to mind since the only good practice for listening to real Japanese is real Japanese itself and you're not good enough to handle that as a beginner.
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>>139861910
I was about to give you a nice link but I read your second sentence then I decided that you can go fuck a duck
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>>139861910
if you're enough of a beginner to think anime isn't real japanese then give up.
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>>139861791
>Why don't you want to read adapted LNs?
None of them look too great desu and some of them I prefer as anime. The closest one I thought of reading is Jintai but it's too difficult for me right now. Am I wrong in thinking the VN library blows out LNs? What are LN equivalents to SubaHibi, Dies Irae, Ever17 and such? Or just throw me a favorite or two of yours and I'll check them out.
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>>139861972
You need to end.
>>139861986
I just need something more beginner friendly.
>>139861996
You can't give me anything since you are a beginner yourself.
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>>139862047
Real Japanese - 「お前はかわいいねこだぜ!てめえはかわいいにゃああ!」
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>>139862073
>beginners: the poster
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>>139862073
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>>139862073
>I just need something more beginner friendly.
then take "anime japanese"
>You can't give me anything
because your requirements are literally impossible
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>>139861476
>you defend LNs and don't know one of the few worthwhile publishers.
That was a troll
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>>139862129
oh okay so you're worried that when you watch stuff like utawarerumono where the characters have quirky speech patterns that you're going to be too much of a retard to discern that (because you're a dumb beginner after all) and will accidentally pick all of that up
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>>139862062
I have chuuni shittaste and no clue how hard or easy they are for you, but right now I'm reading NGNL, Overlord and Slime Reincarnation
I've seen people post about Oregairu around here, too
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>>139862139
Did I upset you, anime boy?
>>139862167
Anime is lower than beginner level, it's lower than the first lessons of Genki. I don't want to talk like a "kawaii neko" anime character, thanks.
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>>139862292
Kill yourself spammer
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>>139861843
Oh yeah I forgot
>she also joins his club
top kek

I don't need to read garbage to identify garbage.
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>>139862292
Thanks for the confirmation that you're just here to shitpost and shit the thread up (that or you're legitimately that much of a retard). I'm sure people will still continue taking the bait though.
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>>139862292
Kill yourself
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>>139862062
>What are LN equivalents to SubaHibi
Ebiten: Kitan Kitan... it's even written by Sca-ji.
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>>139862350
Everyone who disagrees with watching shit content for learning Japanese is baiting? Yeah, that's true.
>>139862357
I'll go watch some anime first.
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>>139862062
>Am I wrong in thinking the VN library blows out LNs?
I think it's safe to say anyone with any real literary ability doesn't need porn or anime girls to sell their writing, so there's no good reason to act like there's some line between the two.
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>>139862601
i can't read american literature anymore, porn games are my last resort
t. idiot who was stupid enough to read two thousand (i counted) classic science fiction short stories through middleschool and highschool
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>>139862440
>>139862062
>Sca-ji
To be honest, looking at the references list on tlwiki for SubaHibi makes me intimidated to read his stuff because I'm not very well read and feel a lot of the concepts and references in some of his writing would go to waste or go over my head. Maybe I'm overestimating it, though.
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>>139862514
Do you think anime uses different grammar than regular Japanese or something? The only difference between them is how much more polite Japanese are.
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>>139862670
Why are you responding to obvious bait, anon?
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>>139862660
In Subahibi the character explain everything to you pretty much. In Sakura no Uta not so much, but much of it is obvious, and it's still immersely enjoyable even if you don't get eveything.
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>>139862658
I followed the scifi EU books religiously when I was a kid

Now that they've been retconned I want to kill myself
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>>139862139
What's wrong with you, Rena?
I love Gekikara, anyway.
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>>139862287
I don't actually dislike chuuni but I think a big part of chuuni for me are the chants and visuals, you know? I thought NGNL & Overlord anime were alright, but not sure about reading them. I was actually gonna start reading KonoSuba because of how much I loved the anime, but then they announced S2 and I'd rather wait for that now. OreGairu I've seen the anime of, this is actually the kind of stuff I'd read if it wasn't already adapted fairly well.

>>139862601
Not sure why you'd bring this up. I even listed some examples asking if there's equivalents in the other medium.

>>139862660
It's a meme at this point, it's far from difficult.
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>>139862742
yeah it's half the retarded elaborate references and canon and "if you like the first foundation book you're an idiot" that started my downward trend, and it ended with me reading the index fan tl and realizing that the writing quality was basically the same, just in a different context

there's still such a thing as masterpieces but you can't find them because stories don't get put into the western canon until they're several decades old
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>>139862670
They use overuse ridiculous words all they time. I watched one anime for listening practice and it was awful. I don't want to hear Japanese that's used only in anime. The rules might be the same (mostly), but the vocabularies are different.
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>>139862833
>It's a meme at this point, it's far from difficult.
I've heard it's fairly easy from a Japanese-language perspective, but I'm more concerned about it from a literary perspective and not getting a lot of the references and concepts discussed in it. The sort of stuff that even if it were written originally in English or if I were fluent in Japanese, I'd still be intimidated by it or feel like it's a waste reading it when a lot of the stuff that isn't explained is going right over my head. I guess with what >>139862735 said it's probably not that bad, but still.
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>>139862997
what anime was it
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>>139863090
Boku something something, it was airing recently I believe.
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I know that 他 can be read as both ほか and タ, and that both readings mean "other", but when is each reading used? Is it like あした and あす, as in one of the readings is used in a formal context while the other is used in an informal context? Is it like こども and こ, in a way that one reading is used when there is a prefix to the word and the other reading when the word is by itself?
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>>139862833
NGNL's anime didn't do a very good job with taking a second season into account so I'd recommend reading the LNs if you're interested in the story, it gets pretty wild with the 6th volume.
KonoSuba's adaption was pretty good, you're probably not missing out by waiting for the second season.
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>>139863188
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>>139863301
Cool anime pic bro! Did it help you learn Japanese?
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>>139862997
You don't do listening practice for vocabulary
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>>139863245
yes
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>>139863245
>あした and あす, as in one of the readings is used in a formal context while the other is used in an informal context

But that's not what it the difference between あした and あす is.

>「あす」は、昔から「きょう」の次の日を意味(現在の明日の意味)しています。
>一方、「あした」は「ゆうべ」に対する「朝」を意味していました。一日の終わりが「ゆうべ」「日暮れ」というため、「あした」は、「きょうのゆうべ(日暮れ)の次の朝」ということになり、今の言葉でいうと「翌朝」のことになります。その後、「あした」は「朝」から「翌日の午前中」となり、さらに「翌日」へと意味が広がっていきました。
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>>139863284
NGNL is fucking trash, though.
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when will I become a native Japanese reading speed?
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>>139863425
I did say my taste is shit

ngnl made me cry
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>>139863037
It's a freaking VN. How many Japanese do you think have read Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus? Everything is presented in a very basic manner and easy to digest. It's fun if you catch a reference yourself but far from needed, SubaHibi is fairly low-brow. DI is quite a bit denser.
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>>139863338
>talking shit about anime on /a/
I know that crossboarders are expected in these threads, but don't feel entitled you piece of shit.
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>>139863188
>watching boku shows
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>>139863517
Yeah I guess that's a fair point, I'm probably overthinking things.
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>>139863517
>SubaHibi is fairly low-brow
are you trying to use low-brow correctly or are you just memeing it
did you mean more like trashy or "genre" or something?
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>>139863544
Go learn some Japanese by watching anime, adults are talking here.
>>139863550
I'm not really an expert in anime, so I wouldn't know. Do you have any suggestions? I highly doubt it though.
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>>139862833
>OreGairu I've seen the anime of, this is actually the kind of stuff I'd read if it wasn't already adapted fairly well.
The anime adaption is complete garbage anon.
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>>139863639
No, I like SubaHibi. What I meant by it I have stated in the previous sentence - easy to appreciate for pretty much everyone, even those with no prior knowledge of the reference points and philosophy.
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>>139863875
>SubaHibi
>anime shit
>philosophy
ワロタ
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>>139863875
well low brow means something else
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>>139863188
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I wouldn't be surprised if this guy is Sakura autist just testing out a new way to shit up and derail the thread because anyone who isn't a complete beginner isn't going to fall for the dumb "anime isn't real japanese" meme.
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>>139863731
>Go learn some Japanese by watching anime, adults are talking here.
>/a/ - Anime & Manga

Go learn Japanese somewhere else with your fellow adults, then. Go back to /b/.
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>>139863984
Sorry, can you reply with real Japanese please? ありがとうにゃー. Or however you say that in anime Japanese.
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>>139863731
Go watch End of Evangelion. As a pretentious book homo, you'll probably enjoy it.
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>>139863955
No it doesn't.

>Lowbrow, relating to, or suitable for a person with little taste or intellectual interest.
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>>139864035
You're calling someone an autist while proposing that you can learn real vocabulary and grammar from anime? Nice try there. And I am a beginner, I stated that in my first post. Seems like you have problem with English, did you learn that from anime too?
>>139864039
>Daily Japanese Thread
I think I'm fine here. It's not Daily Anime Japanese Thread.
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>>139864035
of course it is anon
>>139864073
yes, like professional wrestling and transition period comics
low brow doesn't mean "not exclusive to intellectuals"
sskhb would be middlebrow
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>>139864210
I believe you might be trying to split hairs now my friend.
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>>139864292
not really
it's like calling VNs books
they might be novels but do you see any paper there
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>>139864193
I said only beginners will fall for that dumb meme and you've admitted multiple times to being a beginner. What's confusing here? You're the one who seems to have problems with English.
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>>139864341
Okay, my bad. It still doesn't change the fact that learning Jap from anime is like learning English from cartoons.
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>>139864395
>learning English from cartoons.
so you're saying that it works?
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>>139864193
Where do you get your confidence from? Since you're a beginner I take it you didn't study the differences between Japanese spoken IRL and Japanese spoken in anime on your own, so who are you parroting? Maybe we'd have an easier time clearing up your misconception if you showed us the source of your claims.
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>>139864395
It's more like learning English from TV series like Breaking Bad, which is completely legit.
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>>139864412
Don't know, I'm not that stupid to try that. But some people here might.
>>139864423
I watched an episode of anime. That's all the sources anyone would need.
>>139864436
Are you seriously comparing anime to Breaking Bad?
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>>139864494
>Don't know, I'm not that stupid to try that. But some people here might.
well it's extremely commonly documented that children around the age of 8 who immigrate to english-speaking countries spend most of their free time watching cartoons

it's the bridge to the same level of language that middleschoolers have, from there you can read with no problems
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>>139864412
>>139864423
>>139864436
Ignore him and his low quality bait.
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This is getting fun.

>>139864494
>I'm not that stupid
I watched an episode of teletubbies. That's all the sources anyone would need to know that they don't speak English in TV.
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>>139864395
More like a combination of cartoons and regular TV series, which is a perfectly valid method of language learning that is very commonly used.

>>139864494
>I watched an episode of anime.
Wow it's nothing

This >>139864619
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Wait a minute, this isn't Japanese! Have I been tricked?
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>>139864210
Do you think John Waters is middlebrow? Middlebrow shit generally shies away from decadence. Lowbrow is a better term for a porn game.
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>>139862660
Not all of those references are that deep anyway.
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>>139864551
I'm not an 8 year old child though, or an anime watching manchild either.
>>139864592
Yeah, just ignore anyone who disagrees. The problem will just go away.
>>139864619
Teletubbies and mature English TV have nothing in common. Just like anime and real Japanese.
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yeah pretty sure its just sakura autist

he's way too persistent and argumentative to just be a random anon, recycles the same arguments over and over, and ignores parts of posts or entire posts to fit his convenience just like sakura autist
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>>139864706
>Do you think John Waters is middlebrow?
i would shy to categorize him as anything because he tries too hard to excuse himself with pseudo postermodernist bullshit

who knows what's really under the hood there right now, we'll know in fifty years or something

>Middlebrow shit generally shies away from decadence.
not really anon, you have no perspective

>Lowbrow is a better term for a porn game.
lol
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>>139864835
I don't watch enough anime to call myself "Sakura". Thanks for your concerns.
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>>139864706
>Do you think John Waters is middlebrow?
I too can use google to throw supposed curveballs at other anons.
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>know English
>learn katakana
>suddenly, you can understand 70% of all words you encounter in Japanese texts

Wasn't learning Japanese supposed to be hard?
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>>139864945
I'm sorry that failing to recognize one of the most famous filmmakers of all time hurt your self-esteem.
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>>139829778
Optimized index for 前売り券 for me is 4602. Maybe it changed between the time I downloaded it and now though.
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>>139865097
Getting pretty highbrow there, dilettante.
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>>139864744
Which part of anime Japanese seems different from real Japanese to you, anon? The harsh sentence endings and common lack of polite form? I'm sure whatever grammar guide you're following is pointing out that difference, allowing you to avoid unconsciously adapting that style of speech.

If it's the "repetitive vocabulary" you mentioned above then I'm sorry but that impression must've originated from your limited knowledge of Japanese. Japanese phrases simply are repeated that often and you will find the same holds true in mature Japanese TV as well as daily Japanese conversation.
That said listening practice shouldn't be done for the sake of vocabulary anyway, but recognizing common combinations of phrases.
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stop responding morons
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>>139864957
ノー
ジャパニーズ・イズ・ベリー・イーシー
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>>139865124
Yes, only dilettantes are familiar with the western canon.
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Reminder that in one post he claimed anime was lower than beginner / Genki-tier and in another post he flat out said he was a beginner in response to a post saying beginners don't know what they're talking about regarding the topic.

I don't know why you guys are still replying to him when he's pretty clearly outed himself as a shitposter. It's just gonna make him come back and keep doing it to shit the thread up because it's clearly working.
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>>139865279
Would you prefer 好事家 then?
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>>139865302
I too can use jisho to throw supposed curveballs at other anons.
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>>139865415
>implying I used jisho
>trying to throw shit that's already been thrown at you
Apply yourself.
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>>139865212
Thanks, this post seems more reasonable. Any recommendations?
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>>139832431
ワニ化にもかこいいねこですね!!
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>>139865279
>only dilettantes are familiar with the western canon
this is actually true
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>>139865280
I don't think you can categorize people as either genuine beginners or definite shitposters; it's not that black or white. He might just have a whining personality and be going through a Dunning Kruger phase. While I doubt he's as legitimately convinced he's right as he pretends to be there's probably some truth to his doubt that anime is suitable for listening practice.

>>139865450
Try some JDorama.
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>>139865617
Are you the guy who didn't know what "middlebrow" means, too? This is just sad.
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>>139865642
>Dunning Kruger phase
Fun fact: you don't understand Dunning Kruger.
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鎌鼬
Rare kanji for you rare kanji esperantos
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>>139865702
who?
>>139865750
esperantoj* just kidding!
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>>139841740
春摘み茶しか初物がない
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>>139864494
I'll bite. Why would you learn Japanese if not for weeb stuff? This language is completely useless otherwise.
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>>139865720
Well I expected that reply seeing how it's mandatory whenever the Dunning Kruger effect is mentioned on the internet. Would you go ahead and explain it, along with the classics "that's actually not irony" and "the correct usage of Ad Hominen"?
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>>139865279
>>139865617
Don't you fucking call me an aristocrat devoted to cultural pursuit ever again.
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>>139865720
Look, he's googling it.
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>>139865892
>who?

I meant the person who thinks porn video games don't fit the definition of "lowbrow" and are somehow "middlebrow". As opposed to his friend, who cannot believe that anyone has heard of John Waters without googling.
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>mfw have a "read real Japanese" book

Of course by "real" it means stuff besides textbook readings. Textbooks are there to help you get a good foundation so that you can eventually go on to native material meant for natives. In that sense anything meant for natives is "real".

Let that sink in for a moment.
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>>139866702
I don't get your point I think
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>>139866702
How can Japanese be real if our textbooks aren't real?
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>>139866221
>I meant the person who thinks porn video games don't fit the definition of "lowbrow" and are somehow "middlebrow".
your idea of "fit the definition of lowbrow" is broken, anon
you literally quoted an effortfully vague summary written by an esl on wikipedia
if you knew literally anything about the brow topic you would have at least referenced Pop Surrealism or Levine
and you keep saying "porn game" to this guy >>139865720 like it somehow make subahibi one
at least samefag calling it lucky star fanfiction like you used to
i bet you felt accomplished having none of them respond to you for a while, huh?
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>>139864957
that's what i thought at the very beginning too but katakana is rarely ever used
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How do Japanese call their waifu? Surely they don't use ワイフ ?
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>>139867479
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>>139867093
>you literally quoted an effortfully vague summary written by an esl on wikipedia

Wrong again, I didn't quote anything. Middlebrow is all about middle-class respectability, and it's ridiculous to suggest that an erotic moe picture book is respectable.
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>>139867933
>I didn't quote anything
>>139864073
Anon...
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>>139867729
I meant 2D waifus, or they still use 嫁 ?
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>>139867956
Not me.
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>>139868007
then where did you start posting
own up
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>>139868007
>Uneducated dilettante that butts into other peoples' arguments
Yep, sakura autist.
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>>139868005
I know you meant 2D waifus, but still the same word.
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>>139868045
I was >>139864706
My posts are easy to recognize because I'm always right about everything and consistently deliver devastating ripostes.
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>>139868186
well multiple people responded to you assuming you were >>139864073 and you played into them so you should probably kill yourself
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Its taken me ten hours to get about ten percent into hanahira going by this. http://wiki.yuriproject.net/wiki:hanahira
I feel like i'm learning though is this normal?
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>>139868301
>I feel like i'm learning though is this normal?
That doesn't seem, right. You shouldn't be able to learn Japanese.
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>>139868186
Nobody gives a shit about some random student's narcissism.
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>>139868449
I'm actually a college professor at Harvard in lowbrow studies.
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>>139868449
>narcissism
The best way to deal with narcissist is ignore them.
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>>139868393
Quick, suggest wanikani and RTK.
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>>139868504
Ignoring me is an admission that you have lost the argument.
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>>139868504
*a narcissist.
I can't even speak English
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>>139868553
>this is what insufferable boors actually believe
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>>139868572
It's ok anon I still like your manga collection
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>>139868616
I'm currently preparing my response. Please wait.
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>ニートには飯を与えなくすればニートじゃなくなる
How would you translate this? I'm not sure how to interpret 与えなくすれば exactly.
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Can some anons post some demotivational shit that normally clutters these threads
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>>139869126
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>>139869126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVc-UNU48g0
Let this song motivate you.
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>>139869126
出来る!
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>>139869126
you can learn the japanese, anon-kun
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>>139869194
>it takes the average learner a week to learn the kana
This is a meme, right?
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>>139869536
yes
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>>139869536
Considering I know people who are still "learning" the kana after a year, I'd say Yes
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>>139869852
Why do you hang out with dumb shits?
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>>139869976

Don't necessarily hang out with them. I just know them, but yeah there pretty dumb
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>>139869126
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>>139869126
Just keep doing Anki and eventually you'll see the end
Trust me, anonsyphus
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>>139869194
>10000 kanji

maybe a fucking turbo autist, i fucking doubt any more than 1% know that many.
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>>139870512
>>139870266
>>139869194
I see her in my dreams too, we engage in savage hand to hand combat. It hurts.
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>>139861771
lewd
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>>139869536
i spent a month learning hiragana/katakana, i wanted to repeatedly practice them until i had them mastered before moving onto kanji.
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>>139871195
Get it together, Bobu
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>>139871104
There are only 6000 kanji in existence.
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>>139871195
Whoops, I posted the wrong one
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Is IMABI still considered bad?
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Jesus Christ, eight new episodes of anime from horriblesubs today. How am I going to find time to study 日本語 now?
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>>139871347
its ok but if you want to read a dictionary you might as well read dojg
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>>139871460
watch them raw you cuck
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>>139871460
By not watching subs
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